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There's a couple different kinds of vacation that you could have. One is like an adventure vacation where every day is go, go, go. And it's an adventure. It's filled with activity. Then there's beach, and you've got no agenda.
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D
What's your favorite?
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C
We've got some theology of rest for you.
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D
Yeah. I'm so excited for this conversation. We have people who are workaholics who will never rest.
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C
Okay, that's a good point. And I'd be curious people's comments on this. Why is it that we long for a day away or a week away or a vacation? There's something within us that is desiring, craving this ultimate rest. I wonder if people actually know this or not, but the Bible has a ton to say about rest. What's going on, guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Ginger and Jeremy podcast. And today we're going to be discussing all things summer vacation, some of our plans, how we're trying to navigate that as a family. But also we've got some theology of rest for you.
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D
Yeah. I'm so excited for this conversation. I'm looking forward to our summer vacation.
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C
We're in summer mode.
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D
It's going to be great. We're kicking into the summer and we're ready for it.
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C
I feel like everybody who's listening is probably in summer mode, too. I mean, school's winding down and for the university students, they just all graduated this past weekend. And so, yeah, summer's here and we're in that stage of life where, you know, we've got seven, five and one little kiddos and we're trying to think through how do we vacation the most restful way possible because here's what we've experienced. Ginge, we can let the people know because I think we'll have some people who relate to us over the past few summers. There have been some summers where we commit to things early on and then we look back at our summer and go, man, our summer just flew by and it didn't feel restful. It felt like we were scattered. And so this summer we're really committed to, okay, we need to take time as a family. We want this to be a rest filled, fun summer for the kids, focused on making memories as a family. And that's kind of changed our approach to how we're coming up to these months.
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D
Yeah, for sure. I think it's tricky with little kids because anytime you have little ones, you're looking at vacation and you're thinking, where can we vacation that will actually be able to relax and the kids will be able to be contained? And it's hard in these years. It's not impossible, but it's just hard because often kids, when you're out of their normal routine, whenever summer kicks in, there's no longer school routine, daily activities. Even for us, with your work, it's going to shift a little bit and all that is broken up. Then you throw in a travel where you're flying or you're taking a long road trip. Kids don't always do great with that setting. And then you go and you're like, okay, but we're finally there. And you get to the place and they're like, I want my bed, I want my bed. And you're like, okay. That's another difficulty that you have to navigate. Like, at what point is it worth it to actually do a big trip and travel outside of the state? You know, it's. It's a decision that's tricky for us to make as parents. I mean, I was thinking of one of the last trips we took. We were at an Airbnb and it was really hard because Finn started walking early and he was all over the place. And the place was not baby proofed, so there are electrical outlets, there's stairs and multiple bedroom doors that kept getting closed quickly. And it was just like we felt like we could not sit down on the couch for five minutes without being concerned for him. And we're not helicopter parents. But also it's like at the same time, when you're in a place where there's things that they can break, you're just kind of like, oh man, is this worth It. Is it really worth it to vacation?
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C
You have to talk about that. Well, yeah, you have to plan through vacation. Different than just thinking, hey, that's a cool place. There's cheap flights. Oh, it would be fun to see this. You have to think through the lens of kids.
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D
Yeah.
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C
And then wanting to make sure this is going to be a fun experience for them. Because this, there's gonna be certain experiences that we say, okay, during the teen years, that'll be a great experience because we'll experience it as a family. We'll enjoy it as a family and everybody can be on board. As opposed to like, well, no, we're just gonna be running around chasing Finn. Evie's gonna be, you know, not enjoying this. Cause she's too young. You know, Felicity will kind of enjoy it, but we'll like it. You know, it's like, man, that's not gonna be worth it. You know, you wanna find like, like family friendly vacation spots, but it's not impossible to find.
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D
And so that's something that we've thought, like, we don't want to not do a vacation just because it's logistically difficult for us. Because Felicity is at the age where she's gonna remember this. She's seven and definitely very engaged in like, what we're doing, our plans, and she loves summer break. And so.
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C
Okay, that's a good point want to make. And I'd be curious people's comments on this, but. And I. I mentioned this to you the other day, we might overcorrect. So. So a few recent years, we've done things where it's like we're hauling the kids across the country and we're getting to our destination, going, this is not worth it. It's felt like 24 hours of travel. We're exhausted, stay here for two days, then we're back on the plane and the whole thing becomes, how do we make this easier to. Kids aren't enjoying it. We're like, what are we doing? But I don't want to overcorrect, become too cautious. Because Felicity's seven. That's like peak memory making years. So I don't want her to start experiencing fun family vacations when she's 15. Because Finn's old enough to not have to be watched constantly. You know what I mean?
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D
Yeah. It is tricky though. So we kind of have said, okay, in this season, at least for this year. This summer we're staying in California.
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C
Right.
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D
That's our plan, is to stay here now, watch us book flights to Hawaii next week. We might. But as of now, we're staying here because we thought, like, we actually have not had the opportunity to explore even around la. We've wanted to do Yosemite. We've thought about doing San Diego. Go to the zoo, Legoland.
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C
We've got the redwoods up north, we've got the San Diego Zoo down south.
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D
We have the beaches here, everywhere.
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Malibu, Santa Monica, Carpenteria, Santa Barbara. Montecito. Not Montecito. Yeah, Montecito.
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D
Yeah. And these are all the places that people will travel from everywhere to visit. It's basically in our backyard, or it's an easy drive. A couple hours, four hours, six hours. And it's doable with kids. And then once you get there, you can even just get an Airbnb as opposed to a hotel, which is our preference. A lot of you and you followed along on our journey. We had some work done here on our house recently, and that was another thing that we learned. We went to a hotel. It wasn't an easy stay because we were on, like, what, the fifth floor? And we were kicked out of our house. It was tricky because there was water leak and we had to get out and whatever.
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C
Thankfully. Well, the challenge of the hotel was one room.
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D
It was one bedroom.
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C
And not get all the kids to sleep at the same time.
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D
Yeah, one bedroom with a couple queen beds and a pack and play, which was plenty of bed space for us. But being in one room with kids who don't all have the same sleep routines was tricky. And then if we wanted to stay up later and watch a movie, we couldn't.
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C
Yeah, we had to go to bed. When?
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D
Almost a week.
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C
I'll say this. We've had our history with Airbnb. We wrote about that in the Hope We Hold. We've had some funky Airbnbs. However, they've come back to our good side. The best ad they ever did. I saw a commercial for Airbnb where they basically, like, highlight what life is like in a hotel room. And then they show Airbnb where you put the kids to bed, and then you walk out of the room, go downstairs and watch tv. And I was like, for parents at our stage of life, that is the most compelling reason to get an Airbnb. Cause we don't have to go to bed. When the kids go to bed in a hotel room, you do what, are you going to go out in the hall, go downstairs, get dinner while the kids are up in the room? You can't. You're there when they go to bed, you go to bed.
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D
Yeah. It makes it a little more difficult. So with that, we even decided we're like, okay, we're gonna try to avoid the hotel situation because of the one room. Or even if you do a suite, it's more expensive. But then it's also still, you're in a hotel room. And so if you wanna get the kids outside, you can't be like, go play in the backyard. They can't go anywhere. And so they're running in circles, being loud, and then you're trying to keep the noise level down. So, sorry, this sounds like a terrible complaining podcast.
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C
All this to say, we've learned a few things, I think, and we've taken a few stripes, and we're thinking, we're here in California. Let's enjoy California. There's so many incredible things around us.
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D
Yeah, I think we're at this. That's us this year. So this year is stay here. This summer we're just gonna explore California. And then maybe next year, once we've explored everything in California, then we could think about traveling, be a little older.
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What do you think, Ginge? The threshold is for a kid to fly across the country.
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We want to take a break from this episode to tell you about Cozy Earth.
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D
Oh, yeah. No, for real. Every time that you wear those, you do get asked. And I always am like, why are you wearing those outside? They're too nice to wear outside.
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C
I know they're beautiful, but I don't want to take them off. That's the problem.
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D
That's the problem. And even with the cozier sheets, that's. We're talking about rest.
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You don't want to get out of
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bed, and you literally do not want to get out of bed because they're so comfortable.
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D
We want to take a break from this episode to tell you about function health.
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C
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D
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D
Now back to the episode.
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C
What do you think, Ginge? The threshold is for a kid to fly across the country?
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D
Maybe when they're, I don't know, I'd say closer to two, maybe a little bit easier. Because right now, Finn, it's either like
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it's like six months or younger or two years and older.
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D
Yeah, like if you have a baby who still is nursing or taking a bottle and you're flying across the country, half the time they're going to be sleeping. It is much easier to travel with a baby. But once the kiddo starts wanting to walk and run, there's no stopping them. Even today at a restaurant, Finney wanted to get on the ground. He wanted to be down and he wanted to sit down, but he didn't
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want to just walk. He wanted to sit on the floor.
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D
And then, you know, what he wanted to do was crawl under the booth. There was like, it was like a chair booth and he wanted to go underneath it. So anyhow, needless to say, we're looking at this and we're like, okay. I don't think that it would be very relaxing for us to fly like three to five hours across the country right now in this stage of life, it's not impossible. A lot of families do it. But it's also about your priority. And since we live in a place that has vacation spots, why not just do that this year and then next year we can explore other options. And I think that maybe at the age of two, kids are actually able to sit and do a busy board or color or.
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C
Oh yeah, our girls do great on an airplane.
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D
Yeah, they can sit and watch a show. He doesn't do any of that now.
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C
He's not distracted by a show.
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Nope.
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Doesn't want to engage with coloring. He is ready to. He wants to climb, he wants to run, he wants. It's not very conducive for the airplane. He's. I kind of just describe my own life by describing what Finn likes to do.
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It's kind of true.
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Climb, run, eat. Yeah, he's a crazy one. But we would appreciate any recommendations for cool little hidden explorations in California because there are some cool spots. Like Point Doom in Malibu.
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D
It's amazing.
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C
We went rock climbing there on Point Dume. And then just half a mile away, there's some hiking trails where you go find a waterfall and it's like a three mile hike to a waterfall. And these things are right next to the ocean and they're all over the place.
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Oh, yeah.
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And they make for a great day trip or they make for, you know, a couple days if you grab an Airbnb.
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D
There are so many awesome spots. So like little beach towns, we'll often hit those up because there's places for you just to like. Even from our house, you know, you just drive like a short bit, go down there, stay there for the entire day. We'll go to coffee shop, go to a little taco spot, sit at the beach, you know, hit up a thrift shop or like a little antique store, whatever the town has to offer. And it's literally the best family day. It's so, so nice.
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C
Let me say this. There's a couple different kinds of vacation that you could have. One is like an adventure vacation where every day is go, go, go, and it's an adventure. It's filled with activity. Then there's another kind of more maybe. Well, both are restful because it's breaking away from the norm, but where it's like beach, and you've got no agenda. So you go down the beach for four or five hours. Then you take a family walk. You go out for dinner and grab ice cream. Then you kind of play some games at the house. Like, two different, very different kinds of, you know, one is like, let's go to Disney. And then we're gonna go, you know, to this park. And then we're gonna go here. Gonna go here, gonna go here. It's very action. And then the other is just very chill.
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D
What's your favorite?
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C
Well, I'm thinking right now it's. I'm dreaming of four or five days at the beach. Just no agenda. No pressure to be like, man, the kids gotta be up for it. Oh, they're tired. Oh, they need to take a nap. It's like, yeah, let's go. Let's not go. Let's sit around. Let's do nothing. Let's do something. That's, I think, the now stage. The now, yeah.
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D
I'm a goer. I don't like to sit still very long. It's very hard for me to sit still. So if we're at. If we're at a location, I'm like, I want to go see every store here. I want to go see what's here. As I'm driving in, I'm like, literally looking around for shops. I'm looking around for the restaurants, coffee shops. I want to know what's in the entire town. Like, is there like a museum? What's here? I want to see it. I like to be out doing things, which is so funny. I guess it's because, like, I would typically be so comfortable staying home more often here.
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C
Well, you're home a lot more throughout the week, and so it's when it's time to get out. You're ready to get out, and you're
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out all the time. So you're ready to just relax. Which is. Yeah, it all breaks down because of what we do every day.
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C
Yeah, it works out. I think we should go. We were watching that Alex Honnold free solo stuff. And if we go up to Yosemite, I want to go to El Capitan and free solo with the girls. What do you think?
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D
I mean, that's great. Finn would actually climb with you.
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C
Yeah, Finn would, wouldn't he?
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D
He would be the one to climb.
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C
Before we know it, he'd be halfway up chasing Honnold up there.
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I'm not gonna show him that video because it's terrible. It's so sorry.
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C
We're nervous with him, you know, climbing on a chair. Imagine.
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Yeah, for real. That's one thing I don't want anybody in my family to get into. You guys are not allowed to do free selling. I'll watch it, but I'm like, too much. Too much.
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C
So here's an interesting thing. Ging and I wonder if people actually know this or not, but the Bible has a ton to say about rest. And thinking about vacation has had me thinking about, what does the Bible say about rest?
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D
As I sit over here yawning, you need some rest.
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C
I mean, the Bible addresses it. It's a huge theme throughout Scripture. And I actually just preached a sermon to the college students called Did I call it Chasing Sabbath or Catching Sabbath? I don't remember what I called it, but my two points were Chasing Sabbath and Catching Sabbath. And it stems from, like, the opening of the Bible. When you think of God's act of creation. He's creating the universe. And then chapter two of Genesis, literally the first page of your Bible, it says, on the seventh day, he rested. And he blessed the seventh day and called it holy. He set it apart for himself. Time itself, he set apart to himself. And God rested from his labors. And then you see, God has created. As he's looking at everything he's done, he's pausing from the creative act. And he creates man to work. So work is not a result of the curse. It's good. And yet man enjoys rest with God until man sins. And what's interesting is if you put this connection together, man is banished from the Garden of Eden. They're banished from their perfect place of rest. And the curses that are given are curses of labor. Like, not work itself, but the agony of labor. And the rest of the Bible could be categorized under a heading of chasing Sabbath. We are chasing rest. We're chasing peace and enjoyment.
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We want to take a break from this episode to tell you about trust and will.
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C
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D
Yeah. And the cool thing is, is that you can do that in just 30 minutes. It does not take a lot of time.
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C
Oh, yeah.
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D
So you think of 30 minutes of your time. It can set your family up for life. So definitely make this a priority as we have.
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D
Yeah, it does. I think that's excellent. That's a good perspective because we have people who are workaholics who will never rest and they often neglect relationship and the things that matter the most for making more money or for getting to the next tier in their job. And hard work is really good. And it's needful, and it's, you know, that's biblical as well. But then, like you said, the rest side of it is often overlooked. And sometimes when we're sleeping and, like, even on a Saturday, you know, you sleep in and then you kind of feel bad, like, oh, I slept until 8am or whatever. You know, I should get up and do whatever. But then realizing, no, that's needful as well. Like, there are days where we just push ourselves, get up early, work out, but then other times where we definitely need that rest. And I'm feeling that now.
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C
You are. Well, last night was tough.
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D
Babies we had. Two of our three kids woke up in the middle of the night. I think I probably had who knows how many hours of sleep. Not that many.
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C
Not that many.
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D
Not that many. Not many.
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Yeah. This morning was rough just because the kids, if they've had a rough long night, they still wake up at the same time. Yeah, like clockwork.
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It's hard. I actually canceled one appointment that I had this morning because I was so exhausted by the time I finally woke up, I canceled.
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C
Oh.
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D
I Woke up at 5 and I texted my workout friends and I said, hey, I'm not gonna be able to make it. Because I had just gone back to sleep after being up a lot of the night. And they're like, that's fine. So I slept in a little bit later. And by the time I woke up, there wasn't time to really get. Get everybody rallied and make it to my appointment. So I was like, I'm just gonna cancel this one. It's fine. I rarely do this, you know, and it was good. I'm glad I did that because I needed that extra moment to, like, just catch my breath and it's okay. Every once in a while, like, you know, it is. We need that rest.
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C
Yeah. And so here's a cool, like, little parallel to the spiritual realm. Imagine if you never had physical rest. You would work yourself to death. And there are times where people feel overwhelmed. I think of people who are working three jobs, and they don't have a stop. They don't see a way out. And they're just grinding and grinding and grinding. And the comfort for them is ultimately in Christ, there will even be physical rest. But what Jesus. The point Jesus was making too, was, do you see the correlation between that working in the physical with how you're working in the spiritual? And most people are trying to earn their salvation, earn their standing before God. And from that you can never rest. If the requirement for heaven is perfection, you've got to work constantly if you're going to attain it. And even then you're going to fall short. And so the people who are on the legalistic or works based religion ladder to heaven have no rest. You can never rest. And what Jesus is saying is, hey, I've provided the salvation, I've done the work, I've. I've kept the law, I've taken the penalty, I've risen from the grave, I've accomplished eternal life for you. I can give you rest for your soul, which will result in ultimately rest for your body as well. It's a promise to stop trying to earn your way into his favor and to accept the free gift of God's grace through Jesus Christ. So this cool. Like the Bible. One of the main themes of the Bible is built around rest. It's a theology of rest. That's why God gave the Israelites in the old Covenant the Sabbath day. On the seventh day of the week on Saturday, they were called to rest physically. That was symbolizing the rest they would ultimately have in Christ, which will ultimately be finalized and realized in the eternal state of heaven. So it's built around that. So many people, I don't know how many people have read the Bible through that lens. And so even for our listeners, like open the pages of Genesis and realize that because of the fall, we are chasing Edenic paradise, rest, Sabbath, and that will be culminated through Christ in heaven. But summer vacation can remind you of that.
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D
Did you have any summer vacations that you remembered as a kid?
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C
Yes. Oh, and I mean, those are some of my best memories as a kid. I remember going to Cape May and going up into a lighthouse with my brother and sister and my mom and dad and getting a beach house, you know, for a week. I remember going to Disney World in Orlando with my grandparents. You know those things. Some of my earliest vacation memories, I was on the airplane. I'll never forget this. You'll probably be able to date what year this was based on. When this song came out, I remember they would have these little headsets that you would connect to the armrest on the airplane and you'd have several channels of what you could listen to. And there was one music station and they played Bon Jovi Living on a Prayer over and over and over. And eiffel65 I'm blue, or Blue, it's called. I played that for Felicity the other day.
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D
That's really funny.
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Kept bringing up the Color Blue. And I said, I got a song for you. But I remember being on an airplane listening to those songs, like, on repeat for whatever, four or five hours from Pennsylvania to Florida. And there's a couple other songs, I'm sure. And then we did the bumper cars at Disney World. So. Yeah, I remember those. My dad, we'd go to Chincoteague Island. Have you ever heard of that?
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D
No.
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C
You've never heard of Chincoteague? So it's in Virginia, I think. And it's a little island where these wild horses.
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D
Oh, I've been there. I shouldn't know. That's what the name was.
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C
When were you there?
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D
With my family, probably when you were there. Probably before I was born. Yeah. Imagine my family went there on vacation. Yeah. We drove over there. I don't remember what year that would have been. It was ages ago.
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C
Wow. I wonder if Chincoteague is still up here. Yeah.
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D
And there were all the wild horses. We should take Felicity there. And Evie
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A
Island.
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C
Yeah. So it's still. Man, it looks like the horses are still running wild. Home to the famous wild ponies, which are central to the island's identity and history. Yeah, Chincoteague. I just remember, for anyone who's visited Chincoteague, be curious what you guys remember, but I remember the bugs, man. The bugs would get you. Because it was in the dead of summer. Yeah. Mosquitoes just like this all the time.
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D
Oh, because of the horses.
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C
Probably because of the horses. But it's also an island, so the water. But Chincoteague was an incredible memory. My sister was obsessed with horses. And I remember. I think she got a T shirt with all these Chincoteague horses on.
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D
Look, you have a horse. You have a mustang.
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C
There's a Chincoteague pony. Little mustang. So, yeah, those memories are special as a kid. Like, really special. And that's what I want to create for our kids.
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D
Yeah.
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C
You know, even if the memories are faint, those special times of going as a family.
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A
Yeah.
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D
It's hard for you to know, like, at what point are your kids gonna remember and look back on those memories, like, with the amount of money you spend, but really thinking, like, okay, it doesn't matter if they remember it or not. This is all building memories for them long term. And this is their childhood. So let them enjoy it. Even if they're. It's just that day that they're remembering it.
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C
Like, it might be just a random moment here or there, they remember, but that does come to define their experience as a kid.
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D
Yeah, it all adds up.
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C
Well, I'm looking forward to this summer. It'll be fun. We're gonna explore California. That's the goal. And then maybe we'll get on an airplane when the kids are little.
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D
There's no need to get on an airplane now. By the way, you have that hot pink band aid on your finger.
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C
Oh, yeah. I cut myself cutting fruit yesterday and this was the first one I picked up.
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D
That's how you know you have a house full of kids. It's like girls in particular. Those are glow in the dark band aids, smiley face. I love it.
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C
I don't know what's cooler than that.
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D
That's awesome.
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C
Well, we would love to hear what your summer plans are. If you want to leave them in the comments or if you have some suggestions, think California for us because we're trying to stay drivable. Or like Las Vegas, Nevada. You got Arizona, you got some neighboring states. We'll venture across state lines.
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D
Yeah.
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C
So I hope you guys have a wonderful start to your summer as well. We're looking forward to these days together as a family. And we'll see you next week for another episode of the Ginger and Ginger podcast. Grateful for you guys. See ya.
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