In this episode, Dubb and Ryan Pena sit down and listen to an episode where Joe has Jelly Roll back on the show. Jelly Roll is talking about his daughter writing songs. Jelly Roll is so encouraging in how he talks with her about continuing to practice writing songs.

Joe and Jelly Roll go on to talk about how most people don’t have an example of what it takes to do something. Jelly Roll is a great example of that for his daughter, but also anyone else that has the desire to write songs.

These clips are taken from episode 2212 of the Joe Rogan Podcast.

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