In this episode, Dubb sits down with Ryan Pena as they listen to Joe Rogan as he talks with Bret Weinstein about the complex vs the complicated.

Your phone is complex. It’s beyond most people’s basic understanding, but it produces a predictable output.

Something biological, like a human, is complicated. A human or biological being is not predictable.

These clips are taken from episode 2198 of the Joe Rogan Podcast.

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Episode 89: Complicated vs Complex