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Guy Fieri
Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
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Joe Rogan
Train my day.
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Guy Fieri
Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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Unknown
Knuckle Sandwich is a sandwich shop in Austin.
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Guy Fieri
I heard about it today.
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Unknown
It's legit.
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Guy Fieri
My pilot. My pilot calls me and says, you know, someone's got your brand out there. I'm like, what's it called? He goes, knuckle Sandwich. I'm like, go figure.
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Unknown
Well. But I hear it's good stuff. Yeah, it's real good. What's that we smoking? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Guy Fieri
Everything goes in here.
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Unknown
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever you want to do.
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Guy Fieri
So that.
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Unknown
Don't shoot heroin on camera.
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Guy Fieri
I think we're gonna be able to pass that.
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Unknown
So what's happening, man? How are you? Well, there we go. I got one. Thanks.
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Guy Fieri
I really appreciate the invite.
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Unknown
My pleasure.
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Guy Fieri
This is. This is a long time coming. I've been waiting for this. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, especially all the influence you've had and things you've done, and I know the funny side of you. I know the UFC side of you, but watching the podcast and seeing all the characters, and I was just watching the Bill Murray interview the other day, and I just look at. I go, man, to hear those stories, talking about Hunter and just all that and all the stuff, I mean, just. It's pretty. You got to have your mind blown by now.
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Unknown
Yeah, my mind's been blown out. It's kind of overblown at this point.
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Guy Fieri
It's huge.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Guy Fieri
I mean, I think about what you did with Trump and all that influence that you made, and you. You call it straight up the line, you want to come on the show, you want to do this, let's do it. And took the time to do it. I think it was a huge impact. I think that we look at all the people that you've given a chance, you've given them a platform, and I think that's really. It's fair of you. And the way you interview, the way I see it, from, you know, doing a few interviews, you let people talk, you let them speak their piece, you continue to help them through not getting stuck on one thing, you navigate them pretty well, and it's really. I mean, it's from a guy that's, you know, in the business, not to this level, but guys in the business, it's. It's respectful, man.
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Unknown
Thank you. Thank you very much. What is knuckle sandwich based on? You even have a. Your chain is a knuckle sandwich.
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Guy Fieri
It's all. It's all has History just kind of like, as I toured the museum today.
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Unknown
Chef's hat with a skull started with that tattoo.
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Guy Fieri
One of the first tattoos I ever had. Culinary gangster. So my buddy Joe Leonard, monkey wrench tattoo. Great friend of mine did my first tattoo, and he made that. He says, I have this drawing for you. I want to show this to you. And it's pretty, you know, skull. Chef let me check it out. So I don't put a tattoo on until he draws it on first. I have to have it on for a while. Like, I have to look at it for a couple days. Like, does this resonate with me? So that's how it started this way before tv, way before any of this. And when I got on tv, when I got on Food Network, they're gonna send me my first paycheck. You wouldn't believe how much I made that first episode. Huge money. $1250 an episode, you know, when you get started. And I wasn't playing on tv. But anyhow, I came back, and I had all my buddies around my table. My house was kind of like a soup kitchen. All my buddies, you know, come by, and someone will bring, you know, crab. Someone will bring some stuff, you know, whatever. And so I'm sitting there with all my buddies. I said, hey, I got to think of a name for my tv, like, my other business, because my restaurant business had a business partner, and I didn't want the checks to come to the business. So I said, what do you. What do you think? My one buddy, Dirty, says, my nickname's Guido. Guido. He says, how about you make us something to eat, and that'll give us, like, some food for knowledge. And then. And I said, you know, and I'm serious. I want to come up with a name for the company. I got to get this. I got to get my 1200 check sent to me. And I go, hey, Dirty, how about I give you a knuckle sandwich? And he goes, that'd be a good name.
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Unknown
That's it.
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Guy Fieri
That was it. And it was. It was originally that. It was originally a sandwich with a. With a ring on it and a sandwich made out of money. And that was knuckle sandwich. And then it just kind of all evolved from there. And so all my companies go into the brand of knuckle sandwich, but I never put a product of wine or tequila or anything I ever did. And we started making these cigars. And this guy that I'm partners with is such a. Such a guru guy named Eric Espinosa. And we sat there and talked about it. And I have another brand called Flavortown. Like, Flavortown's too whimsical and too. You know, it's got to be something. I didn't want to call Guy Fieri. You know, I didn't want to have my name on it. I don't want to do stuff that, like, buy this because it's my. You know, it's my name. I just want to do something, you know, and we all thought about it. We said, cigars are that good. And he's such a badass. It's called Knuckle Sandwich.
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Unknown
Did you have any idea in the beginning of your career of being a TV guy? Like, how did all that stuff start? Because it's a weird world, you know, I had a conversation with Jose Andres about this.
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Guy Fieri
I watched it.
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Unknown
The. The. The emergence of the celebrity chef is, like, fair. I mean, it used to be like Julia Child, like, way, way back in the day shoes. And then this one.
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Guy Fieri
Yeah.
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Unknown
Yeah. And then I guess there's a few other people, but they. They never were, like, cultural figures, I guess. Julia Child was. She was probably the only one. I don't know. She was really it. Right?
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Guy Fieri
Yeah. That was pbs, you know, that was pbs. That wasn't people really blowing it up. I mean, I watched it because I loved that I was in love with food at a young age. I mean, I just was one because I didn't really experience and, like, exactly what my parents were feeding me. My parents are really good cooks. They weren't in the cooking business, but. But, yeah, this whole food thing I had before I got on Food Network, I had never watched the Food Network, and not because I don't believe in it. I mean, food's my epicenter of what I do. But the last thing I was going to do, working seven days a week, 12, 13, 15 hours a day in.
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Unknown
The restaurant, come home and watch more food.
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Guy Fieri
It's gonna watch somebody make me, you know, a pot pie. I'm like, I got enough. Plus, I also didn't really have a true understanding of what was going on. Knew who Emeril was. I mean, you couldn't.
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Unknown
He's another one. Remember when he had that sitcom? He. His. His tagline, bam. Like, they decided to try to put that into a sitcom.
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Guy Fieri
We just had that conversation the other day. Yeah, we just had that conversation. But Emeril's the og. I give such appreciation and accolades to everybody that did it before me. There were so many people that helped pave the way in one style of another, and some in tv Some literary, some, you know, just living the, you know, keeping the energy of the industry alive. Because if you're not from the industry, you don't quite exactly get what it is, but it's a pretty, it's like understanding ufc. You know, the bigger fan you become of something, the more you start looking at it and just going, it is so much more than what you're watching in the ring for the, you know, next 20 minutes. It's really deep and there's so much more. And there's so much. It's not just lifestyle, it's attitude, it's energy, it's connectivity, it's family, it's community, it's all that kind of stuff.
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Unknown
And so, so did you, like, how does one go from being a chef to being a TV chef? Like, what was it? Did you just get an audition? Like, did they contact a bunch of chefs? Like, who's got the wackiest hair and who looks like they would be good on tv? Like, how do they, how do they figure something like that out?
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Guy Fieri
This is about the most wack story in the world. So. All right, so never graduated high school. Dropped out of high school when I was 16, went to France, was an exchange student. I'm going to give you a little bit more of the backstory than we want, but I'll give it to me. I'll kind of give you the, you know, the quick version. So when I got, when I came back from France, I was supposed to go to my senior year in high school. And I wasn't really super interested in going back to high school. I just lived in France in a boarding house and went to high school and I didn't even speak French. But my parents were really open minded and I'd saved my money and they said if you can pass a year of French at the junior college at 16 and you can pass the class and you can figure it out, I guess. So I went and lived in a boarding house and went to high school, came back my senior year. I just was not interested in going back to high school. So I went to junior college, finished junior college, went to unlv, got my degree, graduated a little bit early and went and ran restaurants for other people. And then, and I was 26, moved back to the wine country, up to Northern California where I'm from, opened my first restaurant, had a bunch of restaurants with a buddy, things were great, did exactly what I wanted to do. Wanted to be, you know, have a great wife, want to be a great dad, wanted to have my own Restaurant. That's all I wanted. Not that I was short sighted and stuff. Like, big, big community person. Wanted to do a lot of, you know, community service and so forth. My parents were that way. So that was it, man. I had like three restaurants, owned a couple hot rods, bought my own house. I was living it, you know. And a bunch of friends came up to me. Actually, a kid across the street came, he said, you watch Food Network? I said, no. So we have a show on there called the Food Network Star. You should go on that show. I hadn't even seen Food Network. I saw Rachel Ray one time. I was at a bar, I saw Rachael Ray on screen. And I'm like, that girl's got energy. I mean, listen to her. And she could talk food. She did. She doesn't know her shit. So that was. Whatever. About six, eight months later, my wife's driving home from the city. She says, hey, I was just listening to the radio station. They had that Food Network Star show going on because you'd be great in that. I go, how do you know? You never seen the show? She goes, no, they're just talking about it, like, you know, the culinary challenges and all the things. And then if you do it, you win a show. Well, I want a show for, you know, doing what. I've not been on tv. I made my own TV commercials for my restaurant. That was the only thing I ever did that was tv.
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Unknown
So none of it was appealing when they contacted you and they asked you?
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Guy Fieri
I wouldn't say it wasn't appealing. It just wasn't in my scope.
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Unknown
Right. You know, it wasn't in your plans.
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Guy Fieri
It wasn't like something I was seeking. You know, we had talked about it. There had been many people had come to me before and said, like, my buddy that was the. Was the marketing manager for Flowmaster. Remember Flowmasters? The mufflers?
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Unknown
Oh, yeah, yeah, sure.
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Guy Fieri
So he came to me and said, you should do a hot rod show. You love hot rods. Let's do a hot rod show. I mean, I know enough to be dangerous. You know about hot rods. I mean, I know just enough to get into the conversation where I bury myself. And so that was that. And so anyhow, the show, they say, make a. Make a three minute pitch. So all my buddies are like, you know, you gotta make the pitch, gotta do the thing. Gotta do the thing, Gotta do the thing. And I avoided it any way I could. And to the point where it had expired, like the entry time, it expired. So my buddy, my buddy named Mustard, he's on. We're on a barbecue team together. Did competition, barbecue, and all kinds of crazy. And he says, do you ever send that demo tape into the Food Network? And I said, no, I just missed that window. And he goes, good, I thought you were gonna say that. He says, because they opened it back up, there's another week. He says, let's go make that. I'm like, I don't want to do this. He's like, don't be. You know, you always push every day. This is the truth. Because I push all my friends and, like, open your own business, go on that vacation, have kids. You know, I'm always the one that's kind of, you know, go live your best life. And so I kind of walk my talk. Last thing I wanted to do, Joe, honestly, is go on tv. And. Because I never went to culinary school, you know, I just been cooking through my. You know, that's my career, and it's what I did as passion and living in France.
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Unknown
You opened up a restaurant without ever going to culinary school?
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Guy Fieri
No.
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Unknown
Is that unusual?
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Guy Fieri
I think it's probably 60, 40.
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Unknown
Oh, really?
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Guy Fieri
Yeah.
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Unknown
60, 40 that go to school or.
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Guy Fieri
60 go to school.
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Unknown
That's a lot that don't, though.
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Guy Fieri
I could really be off on that. When I do diners, drivings and dives, 70, 60% don't go a lot of the mom and pops, and that doesn't mean that they don't learn. I mean, some of the best chefs I know haven't been to culinary school and just are super smart at learning and dig in. A lot of education, a lot of research, a lot of trial and error, a lot of. A lot of putting yourself out there. You got to be willing to fail. Like, I don't really think you'd be a good cook if you're not willing to fail. I mean, if you're just. If you stay in your lane so much, I just think that you get better chances to. Well, let's think about fighting, you know, think about things you've learned. All the education in martial arts and boxing and all these different perspectives that people take to be in it. It's usually the one that has a pretty good, you know, narrow focus on something they really, really love, but then having that outside perspective. So for me, as a chef, having the ability to understand Indian food, you know, there's such a depth there that I'll never hit the bottom. You'll never touch all these opportunities that there are. But anyhow, so back to that. I. I made the demo tape, and I made it so ridiculous that there's no way. There's just no way they were gonna pick me.
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Unknown
What'd you do in the demo tape? Do you have it?
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Guy Fieri
Do you guys. I think you can find it online. I can't believe I just told you to look. Oh, you guys already have. God damn it. You set me up.
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Unknown
I. I didn't set you up.
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Guy Fieri
Did you really get up that fast?
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Unknown
Jamie just pulled it up.
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Guy Fieri
David. You pulled up that fast?
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Unknown
Listen, Jamie.
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Joe Rogan
Welcome to Sonoma County, California, home of true wine country cuisine. Today, I'm going to prepare a dish for you not in. Not infusion, but in confusion. I'm going to do a gorgonzola tofu sausage terrine that'll be served over a mildly poached ostrich egg. Now, since we're in the wine country, I'll be serving that on. On grape nuts and done with a delicious pickled herring mousse right on top and. Oh, I know.
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Guy Fieri
Delicious.
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Joe Rogan
It sends shivers up my spine.
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Guy Fieri
No, seriously, folks.
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Joe Rogan
Real food for real people. That's the idea. See, it's all getting messed up. People are trying to take everything off the shelf and jam it onto a plate. And that's not what it has to be. I learned how to cook out of survival. My parents are going through this macrobiotic cooking in the late 70s, and I had enough bulgar and steamed fish to kill a kid. So the idea in our family was whoever made the dinner got to decide.
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Guy Fieri
What it was going to be.
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Joe Rogan
And being of Italian descent, pasta was always one of the keys. I went and studied in France and then came back and got my degree at University of Nevada Las Vegas in restaurant administration. Been a district manager in Los Angeles, and moved up here to Northern California to open up three different concept restaurants. What I'd like to talk to you about and what I think I could do as a Food Network host is teach people about real food. Real people get it to the basics. Great product, great equipment, great ideas. See, anybody can read a cookbook. Anybody can come up with a simple idea, but the idea is bringing it to the table. I take people's imaginations and put them on the plate. Let me show you one of my favorite.
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Guy Fieri
I was on my way back from.
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Joe Rogan
Houston, where I was down there.
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Guy Fieri
I can't believe you're making me go through this. And I came up with this idea.
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Unknown
Sorry.
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Joe Rogan
How to take Southern style barbecue and mix it into Japanese cooking. See, in Japanese, sushi does not mean raw fish. And that's what people think.
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Guy Fieri
It does It.
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Joe Rogan
It means seasoned rice. So I take a little bit of seasoned rice, a little bit of smoked pork butt, and we put this together.
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Guy Fieri
Here in a dish with a little.
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Joe Rogan
Of our American favorite, French fries, and mix this together with a little bit of the California favorite, some avocado. And I came up with this idea.
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Guy Fieri
And as I was doing this, a.
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Joe Rogan
Buddy came around the corner. He says, guido, what are you doing? He says, you can't put that into rice. You can't make sushi out of barbecue. What think do you you doing, you jackass? And that's what this dish is called. It's actually called the Jackass Roll. So we mix it up, we serve it over. The idea about cooking is not just about great food. It's about putting all the pieces. Do you have a sharp knife? Do you understand sanitation? Do you know where to get it from? And do you know how to tie all the components together? You see, my idea about it is there's so much more to teach. As a restaurateur, people ask me all the time, how do you do it? I can take the restaurant and bring.
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Guy Fieri
It to the home.
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Joe Rogan
And I think that would be something.
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Guy Fieri
That would be sellable.
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Joe Rogan
My name's Guy Fieri. My friends call me Guido. You can now consider me your friend.
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Unknown
Why did you think that would be ridiculous? That seems pretty straightforward. What's the matter, Jamie? Oh, your switch is up again. You gotta reboot again. Go ahead, reboot. Sorry. No worries. Okay, okay, okay. That seems pretty straightforward. I don't know why you would think that that would somehow or another like that.
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Guy Fieri
I was nowhere.
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Unknown
They're gonna pick you.
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Guy Fieri
I was taking it seriously. I wasn't taking it seriously. Yeah, the whole beginning line was a.
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Unknown
TV personality that's like, yeah, I.
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Guy Fieri
Listen, I had one. I didn't. One take. That was it. Here we go. You guys happy? Shit's done.
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Unknown
I don't know why you would think that that would be something they would never pick you from.
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Guy Fieri
Well, I didn't know back then what I know about TV now.
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Unknown
So you thought you had to be, like, super professional, right?
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Guy Fieri
I thought if I talk some. And I kind of made it a joke, and I told them, what are they doing? You know, I thought, like, hey, I'll be so. You know, I mean, that is pretty true to who I am anyway.
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Unknown
What year was that?
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Guy Fieri
2005. Yeah. Yeah, we shot in 2005. Yeah, 2005 first showed in air till 2006, but, yeah, so I send it to him, and I sent it on a dvd because my buddy that filmed it worked at the TV station and he put it. He burned it from the camera and put on DVD back in the old days. So I sent it in. That's it. I did my deal. I said I would do it. I did it. So it gets in three days later, late at night, 10 o' clock at night, Lori and I are sitting. My wife and I are sitting on the couch watching tv. Home phone rings. She goes, no, she's from Rhode Island, North Providence. So she's a little bit tough on the phone at 10 a. At 10pm, you know, like, who's calling at 10pm No, I don't know where he is. No, he's not here. I'll take a message. No. Yes. No. She finally covers the phone. She goes, it's a Food Network. Food Network. It's one of my buddies being a jerk off. So I pick up the phone, I go, hello, Food Network, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And they said, is this guy Ferrari? And I'm like, okay. I know it's not because it was one of my buddies. They would have said, you know, Fieri. So she goes, yeah, we got your DVD and we'd like to talk to you about it. We want you to be on the show. I said, okay, what does that entail? Well, there's a contract that'll be on your door tomorrow morning. We FedEx it to you. So I get the FedEx and I look at it and I give it to one of my attorney buddies. Like, man, they own your ass. If you sign this, I can own you. So he redlined a bunch, and I sent it back to him. They called me back and they said, you can't redline the contract that we're sending you. This is like, you want on the show or you don't want on the show?
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Unknown
What is, like, when you say they own you? Like, what do you mean?
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Guy Fieri
Oh, you know how a contract goes when you get into tv. I mean, there's like, you. You know, we've got you for 36 months. You can't do any other production.
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Unknown
You know, whatever this 36 months, I don't know.
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Guy Fieri
Then don't quote me on any of it. All I know is I had never signed an entertainment contract at that point.
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Unknown
Yeah, so a lot of them are pretty predatory. You take advantage of the person that doesn't have any exposure. If you're going to become a star, they want to profit massively off it.
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Guy Fieri
And so that's where it kind of. My guy said to me, goes, you have Your own restaurants, you're doing your own thing. What are you doing? What are you getting on tv?
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Unknown
Right?
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Guy Fieri
And so, long story short, I went. Lori and I were pregnant eight and a half months.
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Unknown
You were pregnant, too?
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Guy Fieri
Yeah. Well, that's what I call it. I held the baby weight, but we were, you know, we're pregnant. We got the kid coming. We. Hunter was four. No, Hunter was.
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Unknown
Did you name after Hunter Thompson?
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Guy Fieri
Yes, I did. Did you know that or are you just saying that?
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Unknown
No, I didn't know that.
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Guy Fieri
Oh, that's 100%. I was. Because I saw the Hunter Thompson in the hallway and I saw the Bill Murray interview. I read Fear and Loathing Las Vegas. I don't read a lot, but I read that book probably five times.
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Unknown
It's a great book.
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Guy Fieri
Such a great book. And when I got out of college, I lived in a town I didn't know anybody lived in Long Beach. I didn't know anybody. I just worked at this restaurant, and I'm not a big TV person, so I just read the book and I read it in college, and I read it again, and I read it again. And it's funny when you read something again. I got that from the Dale Carnegie book. I read Dale Carnegie. You know, you have to read it a hundred times or how many times. I just like, man, this guy owns it. This guy lives it. This guy just, you know, what a character. And then the more I read about him and the more you kind of learn about him. And so I told my wife. So we have Hunter and Ryder, writers freshmen in San Diego State. Hunter just graduated with his MBA at University of Miami.
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Unknown
That's awesome.
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Guy Fieri
Yeah. So that's where Hunter came from.
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Unknown
That's great.
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Guy Fieri
Yeah. Thank you. And my nephew Jules, who's in the middle of the two, we raised Jules. My sister died when Jules was really young. And so Jules just is graduating this Sunday with his degree from Loyola in law. He's in edm, music, he's an agent.
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Unknown
Oh, cool.
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Guy Fieri
So. So anyhow, I got on the show. I got there, everybody standing there buttoned up in their chef coats. I walk in and I'm in. I'm in New York. Never been to New York. I'm in flip flops and shorts and a yellow leather jacket. And I walk in and everybody's like, you know, all puckered, and I'm like, oh, this is not gonna go well. This is gonna be a shit show. And I just said, you know what? You gotta give it a shot. So I just went in. I was just me did what I do, I won. So I won the show. And what this show, what you Win is a six episode cooking show which they ran at 7am on Saturdays. I mean, it was the worst time slot in the world. But they gave me the show and I did good. And they gave me another show and I did the show and I hated it. I did the pilot and I hated it. And I'm like, I can't do this.
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Unknown
What was that show?
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Guy Fieri
It's called Gotta Get It. I don't think you're gonna find. Jim, you're not gonna find this.
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Unknown
Don't find it.
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Guy Fieri
No. Jesus, please. I don't think. It was never aired. So what it was, it was a show. It was about. It was a show about kitchen gadgets. And I'm not a kitchen gadget chef. Oh.
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Unknown
So it's like you gotta get one of these Cuisinarts.
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Guy Fieri
It wasn't even that good. I mean, it was like avocado slicer. Like, if you can't slice avocado, don't eat it. I mean, you got a problem. But there was a cool one. There was a oven that talked Bluetooth to your phone. And that was way before Bluetooth stuff was really going on. There was a two stroke weed eater mower with a blender on it. And that was the coolest one. I made margaritas in that. And so anyhow. But the one they gave me that sucked the worst or the one that I wasn't, was they gave me a ball. Like a hamster ball. Remember the hamster balls? You put the hamster run around the house, but you'd pour cream and vanilla and sugar and all this in a ball and then throw ice cubes in it. And then you would roll the ball around, kick it around, and they would roll and it would make ice cream.
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Unknown
Okay.
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Guy Fieri
Yeah.
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Unknown
Kind of fun.
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Guy Fieri
Yeah. So not for a guy that has a sushi barbecue restaurant and you know.
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Unknown
Yeah. How long does it take ice cream by kicking a ball?
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Guy Fieri
I don't. Too long.
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Unknown
I was thinking, that's fun. But then I thought, no. How much time?
- [22:44]
Guy Fieri
Go kick it when you're in flip flops. So I did the whole thing and they called me a couple, you know, weeks later and they said, hey, congratulations. The show got picked up for 13 episodes prime time. I gotta, I gotta be honest with you. I'm not gonna be able to do that show. Like what? Like, no, I just. It's not. So it went through a series of people, like executive and executive from production company. The owner of the production Company yelling at me, telling me wasted on some time and his money. I said, hey, nobody told me that if this got picked up, I had to go do the show. I thought it was a discovery for you. A discovery for me. I don't, I don't know shit from steak sauce about what's going, how this all works, which I quickly turned that I was not going to be inside of the TV business and not be really aware of what goes on. So finally, the president network called me and she said, you're burning a huge opportunity, Brooke Johnson. You're burning a huge opportunity. I said, brooke, it's all about to me about authenticity. I said, I don't need the paycheck and I don't need. I said, I'm happy with my life. I love what I do. I like my cooking show called Guy's Big Bite. You know, cook food the way I want, call it what I want to call it, make it the way I want to make it. And I said, I just don't. Me and Gadgets for cooking is just not a thing because, well, you might not ever get a shot like this again. I said, I really appreciate the opportunity and I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I just don't want to do it. And she said, okay. And that was it. But fortunately, six months later, they called me back and said, we're going to give you one more shot. You're going to be a food critic. I said, nope, thank you. Like, hold on, hold on. Why not? I said, I'm not a food critic. I'm a cook. Last thing I'm going to do is go in and tell people they're doing it right and wrong. That's like someone going and telling somebody they don't like their, their arts wrong. That's not my style. So they said, well, okay, it's not that. It's not that. You go around. This was the key word. You go around to mom and pop joints and you just eat the food and talk to the people. My God, I can do. That's my style. I said, what's it called? Diners Drivers Div. Ins and Dines. I said, what? They couldn't get the name right? No one ever gets Diners Drive Ins and Dives right. That's why we call it Triple D all the time. I said, I could do that. I could do that. That sounds like dives. I love dives. I don't know a lot about diners because we don't have many of them on the west coast. And Drive ins. I love that. Was always special to me to go to the A and W, drive in when I was a kid. We didn't eat fast food when I was a kid. So when you went there, that was like, big, big deal, you know? And that's how I got.
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Unknown
Wow. Interesting. Yeah. It seems like it's hard to find because once they started making personalities out of chefs, then you have to find authentic personalities who are good on TV that are actually cooks. So it's kind of a little bit of a dilemma because chefs aren't necessarily the kind of people that you want to have in front of the camera. For the most part, I deal with.
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Guy Fieri
A lot of them.
- [25:41]
Unknown
Yeah.
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Guy Fieri
But you know what? I think that everybody, when you get people comfortable, as you know, you get people comfortable, you get them talking about themselves, you get them in a zone where they feel good and they relax. It's very similar. It's what you do here. I mean, I watch it's. People have a gift of storytelling or have history, and what can people talk best about themselves or their history or their passion? And that's what I did with Triple D is I just went in. I remember the first one we ever shot. I'm standing there talking to the guy about thing, and I'm pouring coffee behind my back. People are bitching at the counter because we're right in the middle of an active service in the diner. I'm pouring coffee and pancakes burning, and I flip the guy's pancake and I'm like, so how long have you been making the. You know. Yeah, hang on a second. He needs an order back, you know, And I asked all my questions I was supposed to ask. And the producer at the end goes, cut, cut, cut, cut. Come here. What the hell was that? I said, slow your roll, bro. I said, I asked every question you asked me to ask. I said, I didn't stand and do it like PM Magazine, you know, I was in the mix with the dude, but I asked all the goddamn questions. And he's like, can you do that again? I said, I did a stand on my head. This is what we do in the restaurant business. I said, we work and we talk and we joke and we laugh and we bust balls and we do. You know, that's what we do. He throws his clipboard on the ground, We've got a hit. And then we went around the country for the next three weeks and shot more locations and put that together into the pitch.
- [27:10]
Unknown
So I don't understand. Was he pretending to be upset or was he upset until you explained to.
- [27:14]
Guy Fieri
Him he was kind of an upset guy.
- [27:17]
Unknown
Fun.
- [27:18]
Guy Fieri
Would it work out?
- [27:19]
Unknown
That's the problem with tv is dealing with upset people.
- [27:22]
Guy Fieri
Well. And the thing is, is especially people that don't understand tv. So when I started Triple D, I just treated my fellow chefs, restaurant owners, like we were in the kitchen. Have fun. I tell them all the time, I want you to say whatever you want to say. If you want to drop 50F bombs, if you cut yourself, if you drop thing on the floor, if you. God damn it, it's not right. Don't worry, we'll stop, we'll fix it, and we'll go forward. But I'm never going to make you look bad. I promise you. That'll never make you look bad. You look great. Sometimes we stop, I go, hold up. Let's hold up, let's hold up. What do you drink? Jack. Can we get him a shot of Jack, please? You know, we'll sit there and shoot the shit about his favorite team or talk about his. I always start talking about people's family right off the bat. Talk about the family kind of puts people on the same playing field. Not a game, just a reality.
- [28:14]
Unknown
No, I understand. I get it. Well, that sounds like a fun thing to just drive around and go to people's restaurants and see how they do things and see the history behind it and what was their dream. How satisfying is it to have this place and you meet the people that are just.
- [28:34]
Guy Fieri
I mean, bring tears to your eyes. There's so many stories. So many. We've done, like, almost 1600 locations, and it's just mind blowing to be in the restaurant business and to watch these people, what they put into it and how many sacrifices they've made and then how many success stories we hear. And it's just. It is probably one of the most fulfilling things I've ever done in my life. You know, it's really. I would have been done by now had it not. I mean, a matter of fact, when we first started the show, I thought, oh, this be fun to do for a couple of years. I'll probably run out of places as this show could live on forever.
- [29:13]
Unknown
How many years you've been doing it now?
- [29:14]
Guy Fieri
Sixteen.
- [29:15]
Unknown
Sixteen years. That's crazy.
- [29:18]
Guy Fieri
Yeah.
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Unknown
That'S crazy.
- [29:22]
Guy Fieri
But it does some great things for them.
- [29:24]
Unknown
I'm sure it's great for their businesses. Right? You know, must be a huge boom.
- [29:29]
Guy Fieri
We're shooting right now.
- [29:29]
Unknown
We're shooting down right now in Austin.
- [29:31]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, we just shot this morning. Where'd you Shoot, Shot. A place called the Bolden Creek Cafe. Vegan joint. And I shouldn't even say it like that. I should just say Bolden Creek Cafe, an awesome restaurant.
- [29:43]
Unknown
No, you should say vegan. You should let everybody know.
- [29:46]
Guy Fieri
Well, I say. But here's the thing. I, I think when I say vegan, people like, oh, so you kind of got to give them their shot.
- [29:53]
Unknown
No, I wasn't thinking that. I was just thinking, you know, I have some vegan friends. If they only wanted to eat a vegan restaurant, I would take them there.
- [30:02]
Guy Fieri
It's so good. I just go eat there as it is. And that's what I, when I interview people at vegan restaurants or vegetarian restaurants, I'll say, do your non vegan vegetarian friends come here? Or I'll ask people. Usually 50% of them that I'm talking to aren't vegan. They just go there because the food's great.
- [30:17]
Unknown
There's a vegetarian place that I used to love to go to in Woodland Hills that was a Indian joint. Like super authentic Indian. It was in this little strip mall. And I would go in there and every. All the menus in, you know, Hindi, everybody was speaking. It was you. Didn't you kind of look at the photos that they had of the dishes? And just like that one, give me that one.
- [30:43]
Guy Fieri
Spicy.
- [30:43]
Unknown
Not spicy, all vegetarian, but like super authentic. And you know, that's not even necessarily what I'm interested in, but I would go there all the time.
- [30:53]
Guy Fieri
I want to eat great food. I want to eat food that's prepared correctly.
- [30:57]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [30:58]
Guy Fieri
So it's kind of like saying, I didn't mean to throw the vegan thing on it because really what it is, it's about great restaurants with really great people that own it or people that have a good story. And then people that want to talk about what the food, they talk about what they do.
- [31:12]
Unknown
Did you ask them why they decided to make a vegan restaurant?
- [31:16]
Guy Fieri
She's vegan and she had a coffee shop. Started with a coffee shop and then was doing a little bit of food on the side and then just continued to grow and make it bigger and bigger. So funny. I drive up and they got a big neon that says caffeine dealer. And I'm like, that's my kind of energy. That's my kind of smart ass. You gotta, you gotta have fun with yourself. You gotta laugh about this. And just great character. I'm actually probably getting my ass kicked from the network right now going through telling about this ahead of time. But no, there's Great. You know, I haven't been to Austin a few years shooting Triple D, but I'll come back to a city and new places have popped up or we start to find out more about them.
- [31:56]
Unknown
Have you been at Travis Barker's place?
- [31:57]
Guy Fieri
No.
- [31:58]
Unknown
I've heard that place is phenomenal. And that's a fully vegan place in la.
- [32:03]
Guy Fieri
It's.
- [32:03]
Unknown
What's it called? Crossroads Cafe. Yeah, I've heard from many of my friends, like, Dana White went there. He's like, dude, it's phenomenal. You can't believe it's vegan.
- [32:13]
Guy Fieri
That's the thing about it, is people have this stereotype about vegan food for a good reason. You and I like. Listen, you and I like Wild Game. You and I like meat and so forth. But if you really look about it, you're.
- [32:25]
Unknown
Well, there's just enough vegan people that are really annoying that I won't disagree. There's enough that are wonderful people, don't get me wrong, but there's a. There's a percentage of vegan people that are, like, hugely annoying.
- [32:37]
Guy Fieri
Well, and especially when they start. Here's the thing, proselytizing.
- [32:41]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [32:41]
Guy Fieri
Don't. Don't push yourself in somebody else's lane. Do what you want to do and do what you love, but don't go and don't. I'm not into preaching. I'm not into trying to change. Have your opinion, have your attitude.
- [32:52]
Unknown
That's the problem with the whole vegan thing, is that the people, they represent themselves as morally superior. And it's not all of them. Some of them do it just because they're kind people and that's how they want to eat. That's wonderful.
- [33:04]
Guy Fieri
But I think that happens in a lot of different, of course, sections. I mean, there's people about heavy metal. You know, you don't like heavy metal, you're an idiot.
- [33:12]
Unknown
Exactly. With yoga, they just started doing yoga. They want everybody to do yoga. Yeah, I get it.
- [33:18]
Guy Fieri
Well, I'll tell you a funny story. I was running restaurants down in. In Long beach, and then I was in Redondo beach, and I'm running a little restaurant down there called Luis's. Tiny little pasta joint, Pizza and pasta. And there was a bunch of them in LA at the time. And then I eventually became the district manager for him. But. And I was young. I was very young in my career. But Hoist Gracie used to come in. The Gracie family was right down the street in Redondo Beach. And I remember somehow, through a manager, through one of the guys we got a ufc videotape, vhs. Someone had. I don't know what it was. I'd never seen it. I hadn't even heard of it. And that was the first time that we ever came aware of to, you know, this. And then who was it? Tank Abbott was down in Huntington beach, and we used to go down. I used to live by Huntington, so we used to go down there. And the Tank Abbott thing and the T door thing, you know, this whole thing. But, you know, I mean, you're so ingrained in it. You're such a massive part of it that, you know, anybody wants to start getting on a high horse about stuff, I'm like, as soon as you know enough about it and soon as you have a platform that you really can say something, then speak your piece, but don't shove it down people's throat. I mean, I'm just not. He can do about anything.
- [34:34]
Unknown
Yeah, you know, no, that's a big one with. People start doing jiu jitsu, and they only want to tell everybody about jiu Jitsu. The. The vegan thing, though, is like, I. I really do get it from their perspective, like, as an ethical perspective. It's just one of those things where if there's a thing that you're trying to do where you're trying to be kind, you're gonna get a certain percentage of people that start doing that, that get annoying.
- [34:58]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, I just choose not to listen to annoying people. I just tune it out. I don't have fucking time for it. I really don't have time for it. I mean, life. There's so much else going on in my life and so much else going on in this world. I think, why don't we start focusing all the good shit we can do. We can do so much great shit if everybody would pivot themselves 10% and just go and look at. Say, okay, take everything you love and then go do that more and be worried less about what somebody's saying about you or what something's going on, social media or whatever this other shit may be, just go do something positive.
- [35:30]
Unknown
This is social media contagion. It's. It's a problem. It's a real problem.
- [35:34]
Guy Fieri
When will it break? Is the question. Like, when will it stop being the center of when people just start looking and go, okay, we're done. We've had enough of it. It's. It's. It's. It's run its course. It's been poisonous enough. It's a. I mean, there's positive things to it. Don't get me wrong, I think there's some really good information that you can get from it. But the negative side of it, just because you have a plot, you have a key. You know, I always say to these, you know, I have young chefs that are on my shows, like, oh, yeah, somebody wrote about me. And I'm like, a, quit reading about yourself. B, look at the source. Now, I come up to you and I tell you that your food sucks or I tell you that you're doing something that's wrong. You know, we're friends. You can maybe take my opinion with some, you know, some credit. But the, you know, the jerk off that's writing about you in his mom's basement eating Cheetos in his underwear, you know, clucking away, telling you how much you suck, said you really care what that guy thinks.
- [36:22]
Unknown
The problem is that people see it written down and they think it's almost like, like a valid source. And then they have to combat it. But you're gonna combat 35 million people, however many million people are tweeting about.
- [36:36]
Guy Fieri
Things and how many accounts they have.
- [36:38]
Unknown
Yeah, there's a lot of that, and there's a lot of people that aren't even real. But it's also, it's just that the, the, the nature of it highlights negativity. Because the nature of this platform, what gets traction is things that make people upset.
- [36:54]
Guy Fieri
What's. What media used. I mean, it still is. You don't hear the front page of the paper talking about all the good that somebody does and all the money they've raised or all the benefit they've given or all the experiences they've offered.
- [37:06]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [37:07]
Guy Fieri
What you hear about is the negative, the, the death.
- [37:11]
Unknown
Yeah. It's a problem because it's monetized. Right. It's a problem because that's how people make money. And they don't think of it in terms of the impact that it's having on the culture. But if. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's how they're making money. They make money by getting people, or used to be, be getting people to buy newspapers and tune into the news. And because of that, what. What's going to get people's eyes glued? Not positive stories and inspirational stories, but rather whatever the chaos is anywhere in the world and exaggerate it to make it the most salacious and the most ridiculous.
- [37:44]
Guy Fieri
And how much can we spend, regardless if it's true or not? I mean, that's what's been killing me is all of the truth, non truth. Where is the. Like, where's the medium? Like, who's the governing body? Like, is anybody gonna hold anybody's at, you know, feet to the fire on this? And could there not. I wish there could be a punishment. Like, you lied.
- [38:01]
Unknown
Yeah, but it's up to us. It's up to us to ignore them. Once you know that they're full of shit and once you know that they lie, take away their power. The way you take away their power is just not pay attention to them, and they do it to themselves. I mean, in. In general, mainstream media has kind of, over the last, you know, eight, nine years, has exposed themselves as being wholly corrupt, very corrupt, and full of lies and propaganda and ignoring positive aspects of people because they don't fit with your political agenda. It's just. And it has a negative effect downstream of the entire civilization because it's just like everybody's at everybody's throats and they're.
- [38:43]
Guy Fieri
It's.
- [38:43]
Unknown
They're being fed all this negativity first through mainstream media, and then it's all accentuated by Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and.
- [38:54]
Guy Fieri
No, it's poisonous and it poisons the culture. Unfortunately, there's. It's. We're moving away from it. But there still is. Are we? Well, I think there's a mass group that is still, you know, buying into it and being the sheep and going along with it. And you're not following it. I'm not following it.
- [39:10]
Unknown
Yeah, but we're public people. It's like, it's wise for your health to not follow it, you know, True.
- [39:16]
Guy Fieri
But I hope. And again, I don't have any prescription to it all I follow the same mantra. You're saying, quit tuning in, quit paying attention, quit passing it along. You know, quit reading the. You don't know if it's true or not. Just do. Just talk about what you know and talk about what you believe and. And be who you are and quit trying to just keep. Quit negative. Just, you know, keep it out of your mouth.
- [39:41]
Unknown
Yeah, it's just. It's. It's a problem because it's so addictive, you know, it's. People are constantly checking it, and when you're bored, you immediately grab your phone, and then what do you do? You open up social media. Like, what's everybody yelling at? What are they. What are they upset about?
- [39:55]
Guy Fieri
And you go to social media that.
- [39:57]
Unknown
You go to, mostly Twitter, because it's the only one that's free in terms of, like, free speech. Like, legitimate free speech. Call it X, whatever. I'm still going to call it Twitter.
- [40:08]
Guy Fieri
I hate when they say Twitter. X formerly known as Twitter.
- [40:12]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [40:12]
Guy Fieri
Okay. It's been two years, three years.
- [40:14]
Unknown
I know, but nobody calls it X. Everybody calls it a few people call it X. Everybody calls it Twitter.
- [40:18]
Guy Fieri
Why do you change it anyways?
- [40:19]
Unknown
Because he's crazy. Same reason why he bought it.
- [40:22]
Guy Fieri
I saw the picture of you shooting the bow at the Tesla. That's crazy. Yeah, I heard the tip came right off and came right back at you.
- [40:29]
Unknown
Yeah, it blew apart. Yeah, it's, it's thick steel.
- [40:32]
Guy Fieri
You think it was going to go through?
- [40:33]
Unknown
I think if I had a reinforced arrow. So like, you know, there's companies that may look super durable, like much heavier grain arrows and maybe an iron will broadhead, but like a single bevel, two blade. I had a three blade. Too much of a big cutting surface. I need a smaller surface. I thought about it for a lot.
- [40:56]
Guy Fieri
Afterwards and I may try it again with goggles on in behind it.
- [41:01]
Unknown
No, I wasn't worried about it hitting me, but it's, it's pretty impressive. I mean you could actually shoot a. I think you could shoot a 40. What did. What, what, what like round will that. I don't want to lie. I know 9 millimeter will bounce right off of it, but like what round is that?
- [41:19]
Guy Fieri
Will it.9 millimeter bounce off?
- [41:20]
Unknown
Bounce right off.
- [41:21]
Guy Fieri
No.
- [41:21]
Unknown
Yep. Yep.
- [41:23]
Guy Fieri
But not the windows.
- [41:24]
Unknown
No, not the windows.
- [41:25]
Guy Fieri
No, but it would cost the windows done.
- [41:27]
Unknown
You can get the windows done easy.
- [41:29]
Guy Fieri
I've driven one.
- [41:31]
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [41:32]
Guy Fieri
I heard they're amazing. My buddy has one.
- [41:33]
Unknown
He says I drove my Tesla here today.
- [41:35]
Guy Fieri
Oh, you have one?
- [41:35]
Unknown
Yeah, I don't have a cyber truck. I have a model.
- [41:37]
Guy Fieri
He says you push the button and the car will come get you.
- [41:40]
Unknown
I'll do that. Okay. The body was saying 9 millimeter handgun,22 caliber rifle has not bulletproof against all calibers. So when you get higher like an AR15 a fit well 50 caliber of course is going to penetrate everything. Trucks, metal. Also crack of shots are fired close together. But either way. Why would you do that? Why are you making a car like that, you psycho. Like it's really kind of crazy. And I think you can't sell them in some countries because they're, it's like they're so durable that it's like a danger to other cars on the road because like you would hope that like if a Celica hits a Prius, they're both kind of, kind of crush equally.
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Guy Fieri
Where'd you pick up Celica? That Dates us people still have. Those Celicas were awesome.
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Unknown
I heard they were remaking that. That's why I, I heard that they're gonna bring back a Celica.
- [42:39]
Guy Fieri
Celicas are awesome.
- [42:40]
Unknown
Oh yeah, man.
- [42:41]
Guy Fieri
What was your favorite of all time? American muscle car.
- [42:45]
Unknown
Oh, that's hard. That's hard. I love them. I got a lot of them I love. Are they bringing back Telega?
- [42:52]
Jamie
I'm trying to make sure.
- [42:53]
Unknown
This is just an AI, might be an AI thing.
- [42:57]
Guy Fieri
I heard something about it.
- [42:58]
Unknown
I don't have a favorite but it's all I like. Between early you can get as low as 65 for a couple of them. Like I have a 65 Corvette that I love. And then I think you get as old as 71 if you get into like the Barracudas and the Challengers, some of the mopars. But by 71 most of the Fords and the Chevys had fallen apart for whatever reason. I think because they stopped doing drugs. That's what I think. I have a theory. I have my psychedelic theory because it's.
- [43:30]
Guy Fieri
If you look at those, I've heard a lot of reasons they've stopped. More EPA issues.
- [43:34]
Unknown
Well, EPA issues as well. But why make them ugly? You can make them feel efficient without making them so ugly. Like they. Something happened. They lost their design language and everything started being flat and boring. You know. Except Corvette. Corvette is another one. Like Corvette. Like they made good looking Corvettes deep into the 70s because they still have that curvy body. But if I had like, I don't know, I don't.
- [43:59]
Guy Fieri
Well, Bowtie Mopar or Ford.
- [44:02]
Unknown
I love them all. I'm not picking one. I just, I love them all. I mean I have a 70 Cuda. I love that. I have a 68 Mustang. I love that. I just, I just love that era of automobile and it's just like. It's also that era of culture. I love the music and the fact that life was chaotic and you know, there were so many changes in the culture. There was so many changes in society. Yeah.
- [44:31]
Guy Fieri
Each year made it.
- [44:32]
Unknown
Yeah. I mean they went from Buddy Holly to Jimi Hendrix in a decade and everything was like what is, what, what's, what's the baseline now?
- [44:41]
Guy Fieri
My favorite movie is that Buddy Holly movie.
- [44:44]
Unknown
Oh yeah.
- [44:44]
Guy Fieri
Gary Busey. Remember that? Buddy Holly and the Crickets and Gary Busey. Oh, it was great. That was a great flick. No, I brought the Triple D Camaro. That's. I brought it. I drove it over.
- [44:54]
Unknown
What is the Triple D Camaro?
- [44:56]
Guy Fieri
68 Camaro it's a 68 Camaro on an LT4. So it's basically a 2022 Corvette with a 68 body on it. I mean, I made two of. I've had a few different cars inside.
- [45:08]
Unknown
Did you take like the. The new Camaro and cut the body panels off and put the new ones?
- [45:13]
Guy Fieri
68. There it is.
- [45:15]
Unknown
Oh, nice.
- [45:16]
Guy Fieri
That's me driving it out too. So we just made that car. I made two of them. No, that's not. That's not the picture of that, but it is that car. So we made two of them. I had that one for the longest time.
- [45:27]
Unknown
So you put a different chassis in it and everything?
- [45:29]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, Detroit Racings.
- [45:30]
Unknown
Oh, okay, great.
- [45:32]
Guy Fieri
But it's. I mean, it's just a monster LT4 trending 5 speed. It's just. But my boys were sitting there.
- [45:38]
Unknown
That's what I like. Resto mods. Oh, I don't want to drive something with drum brakes. It doesn't stop. Those are stupid.
- [45:44]
Guy Fieri
Well, it's so funny to think I have a band, I have a Trans Am and, you know, bandit car. And it's great and I love it and it's great car, but you. And you. You drive it and it's so nostalgic to drive and it feels so good and it doesn't rattle and all that, but boy, you know, my assistant's Camry can, you know, could probably take it from the line.
- [46:05]
Unknown
Oh, Yeah. A Model 3 will leave you in the dust. A Tesla.
- [46:09]
Guy Fieri
Those Teslas are fast as.
- [46:11]
Unknown
Yeah, that's. I mean, as far as pure performance, there's nothing like those things. Everything else is stupid, but I. Oh, is this what it is? Is this real?
- [46:21]
Jamie
Nothing official has been announced about the Celica, but.
- [46:26]
Guy Fieri
Six.
- [46:26]
Jamie
Six speed manual transmission.
- [46:30]
Unknown
Oh, that's Forbes, dude. Click on Forbes.
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Jamie
It's not showing up as every. I've tried to click on a million times. I'm only getting. I have to get the ads out of it. And then there's no pictures that show.
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Unknown
Well, the one below it looks like that one that says 2025. That looks like a dark horse Mustang. That doesn't even look like a toy.
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Jamie
So most of these are all, like, I think, generated pictures.
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Unknown
Yeah, there's a lot of that. There's a lot of those.
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Guy Fieri
Weirdo. Yeah, go on. And you can. I fell for the Scarface 2 movie.
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Unknown
Oh, did you?
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Guy Fieri
Yeah, there was something going on. Maybe. I had a couple shots of Santa. I was drinking a little bit, but I was like Scarface too. And they did this whole AI Thing. And I'm like, what I've been loving.
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Unknown
Is little people, little three. Theo Vaughn as baby. What's that? Oh, yeah. Theo Vaughn is a. Babies are my absolute favorite. The AI babies that take like podcast clips and have babies.
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Guy Fieri
The things. Just having a security discussion the other day about, you know, having so many words of mine on the Internet or on tv, whatever, and then someone could put together a whole sentence and, you know, the security person said, you know, what would you do if they sent a message to your wife and made it sound like you. I travel a lot. I mean, you know, so and so. And you know, I need such. I'm in, I'm in Mexico and I need 100,000 bucks. I'm, you know, locked up. What would you guys do? You know? And I'm like, that's a real thing. Like, no, it is a real thing. They're starting to extort money from people and you know, granted they're usually doing it to older people and so forth, but it's a real. This AI threats. Real thing.
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Unknown
Yeah, that's one of the real things. Yeah. We're going to encounter a lot of unprecedented challenges to reality over the next few years and there's nothing you could do about it. I mean, they're, they're going to try to figure out ways to stop it while it's happening, but, you know, I.
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Guy Fieri
Think they're farther ahead of us.
- [48:18]
Unknown
Yeah, the technology is just, it's reality bending technology. You could essentially right now, just from the podcast that you and I have had so far, us talking, you could have us say anything forever. We, they could do podcasts where you and I discuss fucking computer chips, the construction of them, and have conversations about nuanced details of the technology that we don't understand. It could be anything, a big foreign policy, you could talk about anything and it would all be AI generated and no one would be able to tell you. There's. There's a whole podcast out there of me talking to Steve Jobs. I never met Steve Jobs. No, no, there's a whole.
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Guy Fieri
Not. No, you didn't meet Steve Jobs? No shit.
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Unknown
There's no. On a 45 minute podcast of me and Steve Jobs having a conversation. I never met him.
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Guy Fieri
That's crazy.
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Unknown
They could do anything with your voice, man. And it's like a little weird. Like you can kind of tell it's fake. But this is like, remember, imagine if you go back like just a few years ago, the AI generated deep fakes of celebrities, were super obvious and now they're not Obvious at all.
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Guy Fieri
Remember the Tom Cruise one?
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Unknown
That was the one that was interesting.
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Guy Fieri
Yeah, that was one. The first one I ever saw. No, it's. And we're just on the cusp of it. I think it's even deeper and more convoluted, more screwed up than we know. But it's going to become something we're going to have to face because they're just. They're so far ahead of our legislation that's even interested in trying to control it. I don't think they know what to control. It's scary.
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Unknown
It is. But it's also like, what is reality going to be? Because what you're seeing right now is just a visual representation of what AI can do. But what about once it starts being able to recreate experiences? Because that's coming. I mean, whether it's 20 years or 50 years, there's going to come a time if you stay alive long enough where you're not going to have to experience things, you're going to be able to sit down and, you know, just like the Matrix, it's just going to plug you in and you're going to experience something.
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Guy Fieri
Okay, okay. We're a little bit the same age. Do you not trip out the. Dick Tracy had a square watch. It looked like an apple watch.
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Unknown
It's kind of crazy. Yeah. They would talk to it and everybody's like, that's nuts.
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Guy Fieri
He's talking. Okay, so did we. All right, this is like, we should be drinking or smoking. Something should be going on. What happened? Did. Did apple just. Did we influence enough apple people that they just decided to make it a square watch and make it look like Dick Tracy's watch? Or did the Dick Tracy thing. Did we already make the watch and did somebody go back, back and. I mean, do you ever sit there and trip on shit like that?
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Unknown
I definitely don't.
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Guy Fieri
You don't?
- [50:56]
Unknown
No, not about that. I think square is just a normal size. It's a normal shape for a frame.
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Guy Fieri
Not a watch you talk into, though.
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Unknown
Yeah, but it's just a screen.
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Joe Rogan
Star Trek.
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Unknown
It's just a tiny screen. Yeah, but the Star Trek thing was a fucking walkie talkie. Kirk out. And they'd hang up.
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Guy Fieri
But then we made the start deck.
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Unknown
Yeah, but that was also, you know, life imitating art. It's not art, but I.
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Guy Fieri
So, okay, well, we'll go back to Matrix then. Because I think of the Matrix things all the time. Like how the. How real, how possible is that? We used to watch that cartoon. There was a movie My kid watched when he was little. About the people that all went and lived. It wasn't too long. It was maybe 10, 15 years ago. About the people all lived in a spaceship and the little robot and the plant grew, and everybody was heavyset. Nobody walked. They were all in space. What is it called? Was it Wall Eat the little robot?
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Unknown
Oh, the movie.
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Guy Fieri
Yeah, yeah, the movie thing.
- [51:52]
Unknown
Pixar movie. Yeah, yeah.
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Guy Fieri
And you said, look at that stuff. And you're like, wow.
- [51:56]
Unknown
Yeah, that's what's really happening.
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Guy Fieri
Okay, so you didn't buy my Dick Tracy idea. But I think that the. The other stuff is.
- [52:05]
Unknown
Well, when you think about where this is all headed, there's only a few different directions that one could go to, and simulated reality is a big one. I think that's inevitable because I think you're going to get more sedentary people, more people that are very uncomfortable with their own lives and want to live a different life. And then you're going to be able to have experiences just like when kids play Call of Duty all day long. Like, what are they doing? They're playing War with Zero Consequences, where they're able to kill people. Zero consequences. Get killed. Respawn. And they're doing it all day long just for the experience. Well, what. What happens when that experience is far more vivid? You're feeling things. You feel gravity. You feel your feet feel the concrete underneath you and the gravel you're stepping on. They're going to be able to recreate all that stuff, whether they do it with an implant or what they do with a helmet that you wear that sort of interacts with your brain, sends signals into your visual cortex and recreates experiences. It's coming.
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Guy Fieri
You taking this way past my Dick Tracy watch.
- [53:12]
Unknown
Yeah, look at this robot dancing.
- [53:13]
Guy Fieri
Oh, I saw this yesterday.
- [53:14]
Unknown
Yeah, look at this dancing robot.
- [53:17]
Jamie
That looks so weird.
- [53:18]
Unknown
It's so weird because they're moving like a human moves, and then eventually they're going to realize this human design kind of sucks. Let's. Let's make something that's better than a human shoe.
- [53:29]
Guy Fieri
One where the robot whacked out. The AI robot went crazy.
- [53:32]
Unknown
Oh, yeah. China.
- [53:33]
Guy Fieri
Yeah.
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Unknown
Like everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's going to be powered by AI, and AI is not going to probably have the best opinion of us because a lot of us are annoying.
- [53:48]
Guy Fieri
Deep shit.
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Unknown
Yeah, it's weird.
- [53:50]
Guy Fieri
We're talking about food and cars and. Yeah, that's deep.
- [53:54]
Unknown
It's a weird time. It's a weird time for change because we're, like riding this technological wave. And we don't know when it's going to break and where it's going to break. What's going to happen.
- [54:04]
Guy Fieri
Are we cart and horse? Are we horse and buggy and automobile? I mean, is that the. Is that the energy or that the space that we're in? Think about all those people that were in that era.
- [54:13]
Unknown
Yeah, but those buggies are. They went 45 miles an hour.
- [54:17]
Guy Fieri
Pretty amazing for somebody that didn't. There's no horse at the end of it. And it's driving you down the road. It's. What's that noise? What's that pop?
- [54:23]
Unknown
You know what I'm getting at is I think that the change is going to be way more radical than just going from a horse to a. Yeah. To a model T. I think it's going to be. We're not. You know, there's a lot of people that believe we're already in a simulation. And not a lot of people like kooks and people with schizophrenia, but like actual real scientists, including Elon. He said that the odds of us not being in a simulation are in the billions. Because the idea is that if technology increases one day there will be a simulation that will be so good you will not be able to distinguish whether or not it's real. And so then the question is, when will you know whether that's taken place? And has that already taken place?
- [55:12]
Guy Fieri
The Matrix. Yeah, essentially. What? The Matrix was similar, but that's that same thing I was saying about Dick Tracy watch. When. Where did that come from?
- [55:21]
Unknown
I mean, the chase you watch seems kind of obvious. It's a square.
- [55:24]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, but I'm just still saying TV.
- [55:26]
Unknown
Your TV's a square.
- [55:27]
Guy Fieri
Most watches were round. Then all of a sudden it became a square. I don't know anyhow, not to get.
- [55:31]
Unknown
Stuck because it's crazy. He's sci fi. Look, it's a square. Like, look at the Jetsons.
- [55:36]
Guy Fieri
But I go back to the thing with the somebody. I mean, he was talking about people doing drugs and designing cars who sat around and said, okay, let's make up this movie where you take the pill and you're in the system, you're out of the system, or plugging in the back of the head, you grow energy. You. You are the energy source. Now, like we use cows for, you know, grinding grain. Are we going to become that? And so forth. You think about, when Was that matrix? 20 years ago, 25 years ago, at least. That's pretty advanced.
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Unknown
The Matrix is in the 90s, right. What year was that Jamie? 95.
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Jamie
No, no, it was 99.
- [56:11]
Unknown
99, but still. Yeah.
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Guy Fieri
What we know about AI we can look at and go make sense 31st. 99.
- [56:17]
Unknown
I'm sure they wrote it even earlier than that, so. Yeah, and back then no one had any. I mean, we. So if you're dealing with 99, that's the infancy of the Internet itself, you know.
- [56:27]
Guy Fieri
Right, the Internet thinking.
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Jamie
I stumbled across this when we were talking about something the other day. This guy wrote a book in 1960 called the Man Computer Symbiosis, which is a very early idea of what the.
- [56:39]
Unknown
Matrix, I think, kind of a concept of a human computer collaboration. And this is 1960, where computers would augment human capabilities and decision making and complex tasks. This vision involved computers facilitating both the solution of formulated problems and the formulation of problems themselves, essentially creating a partnership where humans and computers could work together more efficient or more effectively than either could alone. Well, that's happening right now. That's already happening.
- [57:10]
Guy Fieri
1960.
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Unknown
Yeah, that's real.
- [57:12]
Guy Fieri
What was the guy's name?
- [57:13]
Jamie
Lick Licklider. JCR Licklider.
- [57:17]
Unknown
Strange. Mr. Licklider. Yeah. MAN Computer Symbiosis. Look at that guy. Look at him. He looks like the type of guy would think up like that.
- [57:28]
Guy Fieri
Lick lighter.
- [57:30]
Unknown
Looks like he'd be trolling for prostitutes, too. Just saying. I mean, maybe he did. Of course he did. I'm sure he didn't. It looks like one of those guys. It's just a. It's a very tumultuous time because the change is coming so fast and no one knows what to do with it, you know, and they. There's not enough laws to really stop it. And even if you did have the laws, China's not going to stop, Russia's not going to stop.
- [57:59]
Guy Fieri
And who do you go to for an answer? I mean, it's like there's so many people that are so susceptible to it, and it's just free will. I mean, it's just. It's out there and people don't even know how to harness it or even understand what they're getting duped into or whatever the case may be. It's like the things that people are putting on the Internet and, and it lives in perpetuity. I mean, it's not going anywhere.
- [58:20]
Unknown
Well, this is all surface level stuff. The really crazy stuff is control of the power grid, alternative technology, alternative power sources. Like it's, it's going to get very, very, very strange.
- [58:32]
Guy Fieri
Yeah.
- [58:33]
Unknown
Inside of our lifetime. But people are always going to need food, bro. You know, AI is not going to make you a yummy sandwich.
- [58:42]
Guy Fieri
Give them time.
- [58:43]
Unknown
You think?
- [58:43]
Guy Fieri
Nah, I don't.
- [58:44]
Unknown
You know, there's something about handmade things that people are always going to enjoy. Human beings know that someone. It's like when you go to a nice restaurant, you have a nice meal. One of the things you know is that a person did this. It's part of it. Like, damn, they nailed it. You know, when you're eating a perfectly cooked steak, oh, this guy nailed this. You know.
- [59:04]
Guy Fieri
Well, it's listening to. It depends on your kind of music. But listening to music, when somebody's up there riffing a guitar versus somebody making a. It's making guitar sound.
- [59:12]
Unknown
Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. You're experiencing the person performing like you're watching someone up there jamming.
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Guy Fieri
I think the big thing in food, like one of my positions on it, and I always tell people, you know, like, oh, you're the guy that does that show about deep fried cheeseburgers and pizza. I'm like, no, no, you don't watch the show enough, if that's what you think. Because I'm super opinionated about. Not opinionated, but I have a real responsibility, I think, to show the profile of food in the world or, you know, in the United States. And we've got to get our shit straight about what we're eating. We're just, we can't eat this, this processed food. I mean, processed food is. You're not eating it. I mean, we got to eat the basics and eat great food and eat great food made correctly. But something that was made a long time ago, don't get me wrong, there's a place for everything. There's a place for fast food, there's a place for, you know, things that are pre made and so forth, but it can't be all of one thing. But people need to eat better and, and you know, you being a hunter and myself, I talk to people about it all the time. You know, this is a reality that if you eat things that are modified, I'm not saying genetically modified, doesn't have a place, but it can't be all the same stuff. And if we don't watch it, we're going to get ourselves in some deep shit. And we're already in deep shit. Cancer's, you know, where's the heart attack? Where's the, where's the stuff that was plaguing us for so many generations and now this cancer thing. I lost my sister to cancer, lost my dad to cancer. Have some. I run into more People on a daily basis that are, you know, stricken with cancer. And I think food has a, you know, the type of food and what's put on the food has a big, big play.
- [60:43]
Unknown
So it's definitely a factor. There's a lot of factors. There's environmental factors, just toxins, herbicides, pesticides. There's a lot of different factors. I was just reading this thing about golf courses that if. Or watching a video, rather, on golf courses, that if you live within a certain radius of a golf course, you're. You have a much higher possibility of getting Parkinson's disease. Oh, yeah. Oh, here it is. Parkinson's risk higher for those living close to a golf course. What does it say? 126%. Wow. So found people living within one mile of a golf course have 126% higher risk of developing. Developing. What happened? 126% higher risk of developing Parkinson's disease compared to living more than six miles away, said Core Co author Dr. Ray Dorsey, a neurologist and the director of the center of for the Brain and the Environment at Atria Health and Research Institute in New York. This isn't the first study that links Parkinson's disease with pesticides. This just adds additional evidence. This isn't just happening among farmers. This is happening to people living in suburban areas that have an increased risk of getting Parkinson's disease simply because of where they live. That's crazy. But they're not the ones to bring the pesticides. It's like secondhand smoke. They're just basically breathing it in or consuming it in the water that they're drinking. I met a guy once that he had bone cancer and he had to have one of his bones in his legs replaced with a rod. And he said that there's an enormous percentage of people in his neighborhood that had bone cancer and all kinds of different cancers. And it was all linked to this golf course. The runoff from the golf course had gotten into the water table in the water supply with all these people. Yeah, it's dangerous. And that shit's not even legal in a lot of countries. That's what's crazy. That's glyphosate. And that is not. I think they're leaking this golf course thing to glyphosate as well, aren't they?
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Jamie
It's just pesticides in general. I have. I'm even looking at now since there's like a. This is a contentious new study, which obviously it would be, but I'm trying to see what the contention is or.
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Unknown
Why you Know what's spooky, man, is like, there's a lot of rich folks live on golf courses and they think like, hey, what a great life and are you opening. I wonder what. How many more of those are getting Parkinson's disease because of that? Scary, man.
- [63:15]
Guy Fieri
You think about the other countries. We don't talk about a lot in our country, but what they ban in other countries of our products and just how they're holding the line. I remember when I lived in France, I was. I lived right outside of Paris in a town called Chantilly. We'd call it Chantilly, which that term Chantilly lay Chantilly cream that comes from. But I remember I was there, I was 16 and I wrote my parents and I'm like, food just tastes different here. I mean, I don't care if it's a steak and a potato. It just tastes different. I mean, like it.
- [63:45]
Unknown
Because it's grass fed steak.
- [63:47]
Guy Fieri
It was.
- [63:48]
Unknown
They don't have grain fed steak over there. I. I noticed that the first time I went to Australia, I had a steak. I'm like, this tastes like game crazy.
- [63:56]
Guy Fieri
Everything tastes. And we didn't have. It's funny because we go to school. The lunch that we had at school was the. Because I lived in this kind of. This boarding house. I rented a room from this family and they were terrible cooks. And you'd think, you go to France, everybody cooked good. But anyhow, I went to high school. I looked forward to lunch at school. It was the best school lunch in the world. You'd sit at a table like this. There were eight kids and they would come by with a cart and they'd put down a hotel pan full of, you know, the whatever vegetable, whatever starch, whatever meat. We'd sit there and we had all the French bread we could eat. And it was just like, I looked forward to it so much. It was such great food. And I just never got it well. And then I got older and started cooking and I kind of went, oh, really? So that. The funny thing was I went back to France 25, 30 years later, took my oldest son, Hunter with me. We did a whole tour through Europe. When he graduated high school, I took him to seven countries and 14 cities in 30 days. And we did this whole tour of where food came from. But I took him back to Chantilly and I went to the grocery store because my best friend from school still lived there. And I walked into the grocery store and what had been a grocery store full of huge aisles of fresh produce and breads and everything you could imagine was now just freezer, freezer, freezer, freezer, freezer, freezer, really. And I said to Vince, I go, his name is Vanson. I said, vanson, what? Kiss it.
- [65:18]
Unknown
What?
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Guy Fieri
And he's like, going to be more like Americans. That was his, you know, kind of joking, but it had changed so dramatically. I was like, this is, like, not. It was shattering.
- [65:28]
Unknown
Yeah. I think fresh food is really the only thing that people are supposed to be actually eating all the time. Real food. It's. I mean, the more that you can get to a farmer's market, the more that you can have relationships with ranchers and people that actually provide your food, the healthier you're going to be. And the further you get away from the source, the more you're going to have preservatives, the more you're going to have processed food. Stay away from the inside of the supermarket. All that stuff on the inside. I mean, there's condiments and stuff, but most of it's bullshit. The outside and vegetables, meats, eggs, all that stuff that's on the outside, all that refrigerated area on the outside, that's all you're supposed to be actually eating. All that stuff that's in the middle is just fucking your life up for the most part. Obviously, it's a generalization. Plenty of good stuff in the middle.
- [66:17]
Guy Fieri
Yeah. And I think that there is. But circumstances. Not everybody has the same budget and so forth. But I do believe that the reality of it is education is a big thing. You know, education for people about what to do with real food and how to handle it and so forth. And, you know, I remember Home EC was a great class, and when I was a sophomore in high school, Home ec, I took home ec. It was, you know, almost all girls, but I was in it because I wanted to, you know, see what the. I didn't want to sew, but I did want to learn, you know, how to make a BlackBerry pie. And I just think those simple fundamentals should still be something that are taught in schools, like just how to make a roasted chicken. Give them six. Six months of roasting chicken. You know, how do you cook a potato? You know, just the basics. Because there's a lot of people that, you know, my son included, my. My son Ryder, you know, we did a. We did a crash course. I always made him cook with me in the kitchen, but it was usually begrudgingly. You know, he'd make things that he'd like to make. Pizza, let's make pizza. You know, tacos, but even that little thing like how to sear a steak, you know, what's done, what's not done, what's overseas, what's under, you know, those things we. We're missing that, you know. So you said go to AI Food. I mean, scary shit.
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Unknown
Yeah. We've been bamboozled, you know, and corporations, you know, the same corporations that used to, well, still do own tobacco companies, bought out all these big processed food corporations. And then they start. I mean, this is something that RFK Juniors talked in depth about. And then they started using the same tactics to get people hooked on these processed foods. And these processed foods are essentially designed to make them incredibly addictive and they're cheap and people just consume them en masse, and it becomes a large percentage of the calories you take in. It's going to take a long time for people to adjust and switch away from that because it's easy to destroy something. It's very hard to rebuild. And they've kind of destroyed our health.
- [68:14]
Guy Fieri
But it goes hand in hand. Because when you start thinking about this cancer thing and how devastating it is, I'm like, can't really solve this, you know, and then you listen to the. Some other sides. It'll say, you know, big business, you know, you don't make money curing people. You know, like that's. It's one and done. It's over. You know, I don't know. It weirds me out, but I think that we have, you know, you just got such a mass. Massive platform. And I talk. You heard my little pitch there at the beginning of Food Network. Real food for real people. I'm not saying these restaurants I should. On Triple D, you should go eat every single day. Because not every one of them is, you know, always the healthiest situation. I think you need to have a good balance between things. But it's okay to have indulgence. It's okay, sure, you know, the. It's okay to have a Twinkie every now and have your pizza, you know, your pizza experience. But we just need to get back to some balance of it because we're imbalances. My feeling.
- [69:09]
Unknown
But then again, you're always going to have bad examples that are good for people to realize, I don't want to live like that guy's living. You want to see someone who's like morbidly obese, terrible diet.
- [69:21]
Guy Fieri
Right.
- [69:22]
Unknown
No enthusiasm for life because they're poisoned, you know, and you. And then you see a guy who's like, super healthy and exercising all the time. He's got tons of energy. Like, that's what I like. Like you need to see bad examples too. It's part of the human experience.
- [69:37]
Guy Fieri
Moderation is my favorite thing that I talk about. You know, I got into, I don't know, about three or four years ago, got into Cold plunge and thank you, by the way. You're a great advocate and you're a great. You, you were a great inspiration on it. I started doing it and then everybody would tell me that you're doing it. So I listened to what some of the things you. I do it in the morning. It's great. Like you said, it is a life changer. It. Some mornings it sucks. I mean, like, I really have to force. It sucks every day I'm going into this. This is, you know, okay, I'll just get through five minutes and I'm good. You know, I'll just listen to Paul Harvey. I listen to Paul Harvey in the morning. That's my favorite.
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Unknown
Really? Paul Harvey? Why Paul Harvey?
- [70:13]
Guy Fieri
The rest of the story.
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Unknown
Why Paul Harvey?
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Guy Fieri
Because I love history and I love to learn the little nuances of how things came about. And it was something reminds me of my childhood. You know, we'd listen to it in. In shop class when I was in high school, and it was always that quick little in between break. You know, they syndicated pretty. I don't know, Interesting guy. There's a whole bunch out there.
- [70:40]
Unknown
Oh, he was great.
- [70:42]
Guy Fieri
I have my set of music that I listen to that I know this is. I'm going to do a 10 minute plunge or 12 minute plunge, you know, depending on the song. And if I can keep myself out of it. Because as soon as I start worrying about it, thinking I'm cold, but I don't do it. Your temperature. You do a crazy time. I do like 38, 39. You're.
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Unknown
I heard you're like, I do whatever.
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Guy Fieri
No, I heard you're in the 33s.
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Unknown
Yeah, that's nuts. It's no different.
- [71:04]
Guy Fieri
It's just cold.
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Unknown
Just cold.
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Guy Fieri
I have friends showing your buddies earlier, so I have friends that will come and do it. I started with my cold punch. I started with a watering trough and put ice in it. So that was the way I started. You know, you get that little thermal barrier around you. It's awesome.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Guy Fieri
Okay. And then you have, you know, you got to move or something. Okay, you move now you're cool. Then I went to a freezer, built one out of a freezer.
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Unknown
Oh, like a. Like one of them big game freezers.
- [71:28]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, Big westinghouse whatever it was, freezer, little filter in it had a little thermostat. You'd plug the freezer into the thermostat and then the thermostat into the wall. And then it would. And then you put a little temperature in there and it would regulate itself so it didn't turn into a block of ice. But every time I got in, I had to unplug it because they're not UL rated for humans to be in them, you know, with water. So then a buddy of mine, this guy Jamie Weeks, sent me one. Sent me one from Sweathouse, his company. And then I got in real cold punch. Well, that water circulates. That's a game.
- [72:01]
Unknown
Well, the difference is like a blue cube. Like blue cube is one we have out here. That one you can turn into a raging river. It's got different selection. So you can have like a little. If you get in it normal, it's just a slow, steady circulation. Not nothing crazy, right? But you can click that one or two, and at two, it's. That motherfucker is a raging river.
- [72:26]
Guy Fieri
It just rolling on you.
- [72:26]
Unknown
And it's hard to do a minute in that. It's hard to do a minute because.
- [72:29]
Guy Fieri
You do get that little thermal barrier.
- [72:31]
Unknown
There's no barrier in the blue.
- [72:33]
Guy Fieri
No. This one is called plunge. They're out of Sacramento, these guys. Great, great job.
- [72:38]
Unknown
The thing about it is, like, I don't know what the benefit is other than it's sucking more. I think your body temperature stays the same because it's like just by, I guess you don't feel as bad because your body, like in a regular cold plunge, because your body develops that thermal barrier, but you're still cold as. And you get all the benefits. I don't think you have to suffer through that raging river thing. But if you want the mental benefits, the benefits of overcoming adversity and the ability to just force yourself to do something that's intolerable, then I would recommend doing that. If you're one of those people that really enjoys torturing themselves, get a blue cube.
- [73:17]
Guy Fieri
I push people on this and so they'll get. I was telling you guys. So a buddy come over and I'm not doing. I'm doing. Just do one minute. If you do one minute, I'll get off it. I will quit busting your balls about it. About you being, you know, okay, get in there. So then I'll start talking to my. Okay, I got timer going. And they'll go, okay, what? You know, talk about this. And I'll freeze my ass off. Okay, give me your favorite song. What's your favorite song? Then I'll look the song up. Take my time. Hank Williams, Country Boy Can't Survive. Okay. Okay, ready? I'm gonna play it for you. You're doing good. You got you just a few more. You got, like, 30 more seconds. It's already been two minutes. Play country Boy Can't Survive. Okay. How many of the words do you know to this song? Oh, all right, now, besides the hook, what do you know of the song? Okay, you know, I'll sit there, just mess with them. They'll go, four minutes, and they'll say, okay. And stop. They go, that was a minute. That song's over. That's fine. I'm like. I was like, five and a half minutes. You see?
- [74:10]
Unknown
It's mental.
- [74:11]
Guy Fieri
It is mental.
- [74:12]
Unknown
Yeah, it's mental. If you can distract yourself, it's.
- [74:15]
Guy Fieri
That's right, Paul Harvey.
- [74:16]
Unknown
Yeah. Well, that's why watching a movie while you're on a treadmill is a total cheat code. Because if you can get, like, an iPad and put earplugs on and watch a movie, you'll get absorbed in the movie. You won't even thinking about the fact that you're running.
- [74:29]
Guy Fieri
You know what I watch?
- [74:30]
Unknown
What?
- [74:31]
Guy Fieri
Ridiculousness.
- [74:33]
Unknown
Oh, that's a good thing to watch.
- [74:34]
Guy Fieri
I fucking love. Yeah, I love ridiculousness. I went on there. I. To me, Dyrdek's comments are the funniest deal. Abraham. All those guys, they've cracked me up. And, you know, except for having to fight through a commercial here and there, because that'll remind you that you're still on the elliptical. Elliptical guy.
- [74:51]
Unknown
I don't do either of those generally. I mean, sometimes I'll do a. A treadmill with, like, a way to pack on. I'll do, like.
- [74:59]
Guy Fieri
Who do you use for way to pack?
- [75:01]
Unknown
What? I use outdoorsman's. It's. It's a pack that has a post on the back of it, so I can actually put, like, big plates on it.
- [75:12]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, that's fun.
- [75:13]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [75:14]
Guy Fieri
What kind of weight are you talking?
- [75:16]
Unknown
Mostly when I go for long walks, I just put 45 on, so the pack is probably five pounds. And then the 45 pound plate, and then I take the dog out. But if I'm doing hardcore workouts, I'll put 90 on it. So I'll put two plates, and then there's a great machine called. See if you can find it, Jamie. It's called the. I think it's called the hit sled. And you. It's like you do a farmer's carry, so it has plate posts on either side, and you lift it up and it's at an angle. So as you're walking, you're carrying, you're watching.
- [75:49]
Guy Fieri
You step inside of.
- [75:51]
Unknown
No, no, no. You just. It's just a treadmill. It's like a treadmill that's at an angle. That's it. What's it called, Jamie? Hit. Yeah, the hit. Mail X. That was that.
- [76:01]
Guy Fieri
It's a whole unit itself.
- [76:02]
Unknown
That motherfucker's. The. That thing is the.
- [76:05]
Guy Fieri
And it sets. Is that the tensioner in the front?
- [76:08]
Unknown
Well, so you've got this. You got the ability to just incline, I think. Is that Adjust incline or is it static? Either way, whatever that incline is. And then you have those weight posts on the side. So you're lifting weight up and you're carrying weight. So that guy's got 45 on each side, so he's carrying 90 pounds while you're walking uphill. And. Whoo. That'll get you in some shape.
- [76:32]
Guy Fieri
Whoa, baby.
- [76:35]
Unknown
That'll get you in some shape.
- [76:36]
Guy Fieri
Ass kicker.
- [76:37]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [76:39]
Guy Fieri
What do you cook?
- [76:40]
Unknown
Mostly meat. Mostly what I eat is meat. That's like 90 of my diet. Meat and eggs.
- [76:47]
Guy Fieri
What's the. What's your cheat. What's your, like. Indulgence?
- [76:51]
Unknown
My daughter is a really good chef. Not a good chef. A good baker. She's great at cookies. She makes them. She. It. Every time she's cooking, I'm like, God damn it. Making me some cookies. She's really good, though. They're really legit. Like, she made these cookies, like these peanut butter chocolate chip cookies with Nutella. They're good.
- [77:13]
Guy Fieri
Now, can you do just one or two, or do you house the plate?
- [77:16]
Unknown
Well, I work out a lot, so I. I allow myself to eat like a pig every now and then. But, like, for me, cheat food is always either Italian or Mexican. I love. I love good Mexican food. I love good Italian food. I just love. If I'm gonna pig out and I'm gonna eat something that I know is just for mouth pleasure, it's probably going to be Mexican or Italian carbs. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [77:42]
Guy Fieri
So addictive.
- [77:43]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [77:43]
Guy Fieri
I find the more I stay away from them, the less addicted I am.
- [77:47]
Unknown
Oh, for sure. Yeah.
- [77:48]
Guy Fieri
And then as soon as I have them, I find myself right back in there, back into. You know, I look forward to going.
- [77:55]
Unknown
To New York just for Italian food because, like, Austin is great for barbecue and steaks and Tex Mex. Mexican food's great. Here. There's a lot of great food in Austin, but there's not a lot of legitimate Italian spots like there was in la. LA had some legit Italian spots.
- [78:12]
Guy Fieri
Chicago.
- [78:13]
Unknown
Chicago's got great Italian food. New York, though, one of my favorite.
- [78:17]
Guy Fieri
Food cities in Chicago.
- [78:18]
Unknown
East coast Italian food. To me, there's nothing like it. It's like that's. That's it. That's the epicenter for me. Like old school east coast Italian sandwiches and pasta and pizza. Whoa.
- [78:33]
Guy Fieri
And there's something about walking into a deli in Rhode island, in New York, whatever. It just smells different. The floor creeks. They. They're fresh cutting the slices.
- [78:44]
Unknown
People are fired up. They're so excited to get that sandwich.
- [78:48]
Guy Fieri
The meatballs taste different.
- [78:50]
Unknown
The.
- [78:50]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, no, the whole thing. So Federal Hill in. In Rhode island is a real famous Italian. But I've shot shows up there a couple times, but it's not too far from where my wife's family lived. And I just remember going up there and going to the delis and getting those cherry pepper stuff with prosciutto and provolone and just, you know, I'll take six of them and I'll take 18 to go. I would always, you know, bring them all back to California. Just can't find anything like it.
- [79:14]
Unknown
You know what else I miss on the east coast that you don't really get out here is a legit Jewish deli. Like a cat's deli. Like someone needs to figure out a way to do something like that here where you can get like a legit pastrami Reuben, like a real one, you know.
- [79:32]
Guy Fieri
But the question I have about that, that's what people ask me all the time. When I first started Triple D, you could only get true Tex Mex or great Mexican food, really in this Texas, Arizona, Nevada, California, down in this pocket. But I will say that now I'm starting to find because typically it's the people migrating to these different areas. I went to a Mexican. I went to a Mexican joint on Triple D in Minneapolis. And it's a Mexican market. Condesceria. It's the whole thing. And it was better than 85% of the joints that I've tried in this regions I was just talking about. So I'm starting to find this better cross pollination of foods in different regions.
- [80:12]
Unknown
Where people move.
- [80:13]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, exactly. But you got to have the market.
- [80:16]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [80:16]
Guy Fieri
See, the market is the key because who are they going to sell it to if people don't get it? Because a fatty brisket from Kat's Deli is just a different. You've got to have the mindset. I've taken people there so many times and, like, it's this much meat and there's little pieces of bread and I'm eating meat the whole time.
- [80:32]
Unknown
Like, yeah, yeah, shut the up.
- [80:36]
Guy Fieri
I got a good one.
- [80:37]
Unknown
You ruined it for me.
- [80:38]
Guy Fieri
First time I went to council, so I'm in there filming Food Network Star. When I had had a day off, my buddy lived in New York, guy that was on the show with me. So I'm taking a cat's telly, cat's.
- [80:47]
Unknown
Instagram, so I can see some visuals. What is going on? I'm addicted to their Instagram sandwiches.
- [80:53]
Guy Fieri
So I thought I was going to bring you food today when I went and did the thing and I'm like, yeah, I'm not taking Joe the Vegan food. This. I'm not going to take this.
- [81:00]
Unknown
Yeah, please don't take the beating me that I had elk sausage for breakfast.
- [81:05]
Guy Fieri
Oh, I love elk.
- [81:06]
Unknown
Look at this. Oh, come on, baby. Look at Katz's Deli. Look at that. Look at that pastrami. It says keto. Keto, pastrami. Ruben. Oh, my God, I'm eating healthy. How is it keto? Oh, no, bread. Oh, they're just giving you the. Oh, yeah. Oh, my goodness, look at that.
- [81:26]
Guy Fieri
Is this supposed to be torture right now?
- [81:29]
Unknown
Look how good that looks. Oh, my God.
- [81:33]
Guy Fieri
Is your mouth.
- [81:34]
Unknown
Oh, I love Katz's Deli.
- [81:36]
Guy Fieri
I do, too.
- [81:36]
Unknown
I try to go. Every time I'm in New York, those guys, I see the same dudes that I've been going since I was going there in like the early 2000s. I run into the same guys working there, this guy's that have been there for 25, 30 years.
- [81:50]
Guy Fieri
And they're such good dudes, great guys. And I'll eat more snacks over the counter.
- [81:56]
Unknown
They always do that at Cats. They give you a little piece and they have a tip jar.
- [81:59]
Guy Fieri
And so if people haven't been to Cats, when you go into Cats, you know, But I'm telling sandwich man, when you go to Cats, they give you a chip, they give you a ticket.
- [82:08]
Unknown
Yeah, you gotta pay in cash, okay? So they give you the tickets. You better have cash.
- [82:12]
Guy Fieri
So you pass the ticket over the counter, they mark off what they gave you. So then you take a ticket and you sit down, you eat your food, and then when you leave, you go out and you check out with your ticket. So my buddy and I go and I order up. We order up all the stuff. I'm paying so we put it all on my ticket. So we had a bunch of sandwiches, bunch of beers. You know, we had some. So we're leaving, and I turn my ticket in, and I pay my bill, and they look at my buddy, and they say, where's your ticket? And he goes, I didn't get anything. I put on his ticket. I said, no, no, no. You got to turn your ticket in. And it says right there, lost ticket. You know, 300 bucks or whatever the ticket would be worth if it was all checked off, right? And I'm like, but he didn't have anything. It's all you can see. And they're like, you gotta have your ticket or you pay this. I'm like, what the. I mean, I'd never been to a place like this. So we go back over to the table where he'd been sitting. Well, they'd already turned the table, and it's all gone and done, and now there's food. Four big construction dudes sitting there, huge in the yellow vest, hard hats on. Total New Yorkers. My buddy wasn't from New York. And he goes. And like, excuse me, fine sirs.
- [83:17]
Unknown
Hello.
- [83:17]
Guy Fieri
You know, And I don't have the. You know, again, still in the same yellow. Yellow jacket, bleached hair. And my buddy's standing there, and he's from, like, Iowa. You guys see a ticket and, like, what the you want? Like, get out of here.
- [83:32]
Unknown
You're interrupting their meal.
- [83:33]
Guy Fieri
So, yeah, exactly what we're doing. They're on lunch break. We're looking for a ticket. And he happens. My buddy happens to see the ticket on the floor underneath the biggest guy's boot, like, half wind. Like, he's like, tickets right there. Like, I'm not getting the ticket. You're the dumbass that lost the ticket. Get the ticket. So we had. I think we had to buy the guys, like, you know, we had to buy him something or pay the tip or whatever for the guy to move his boot. And we got the ticket, and we bring the. It was a tumultuous experience. I go with people now, and I'm like, take the ticket. Put it in your wallet right now. I'll pay the meal, but just don't lose the ticket.
- [84:04]
Unknown
Yeah, you have to be prepared for the experience because it's not like anything else, but it's worth it. It's worth it. You get the best corned beef. The best.
- [84:14]
Guy Fieri
The nicest people.
- [84:16]
Unknown
Yeah, the pastrami's off the chain. That pastrami's insane. I get the same thing every Time. Just because I. It's so good. I don't want to switch up.
- [84:26]
Guy Fieri
I got a pastrami Reuben in the exact same way.
- [84:28]
Unknown
Incredible pickles. Their pickles are amazing.
- [84:30]
Guy Fieri
Slob.
- [84:31]
Unknown
Ah.
- [84:32]
Guy Fieri
So I love the thing they have on there. You see that one back wall. Send a salami to a. You know, to a sailor. To a sailor. Yeah. That whole campaign that was going on still is something that needs to be done. Yeah, it's.
- [84:45]
Unknown
Well, they've been around since the 1800s.
- [84:46]
Guy Fieri
Such. The joint.
- [84:48]
Unknown
Same spot. But there's a place. There's a thing about places like that where there's also like this deep history. You feel it when you're in there. You get a smile on your face when you walk in the door because it's just this incredible history. Like, you feel like, wow, this place is still around. It's still the same. Let's get up to the counter. Oh, he's chopping it up. Look at that.
- [85:06]
Guy Fieri
My mouth. This is like torture. My mouth.
- [85:08]
Unknown
I know. That's what I love about going to New York and eating there. I like walking into a pizzeria and smelling everything and seeing the guy pulling the pies out of the oven, like.
- [85:21]
Guy Fieri
Yeah. And they're not always the cleanest and they're not. And they're. And the counters are worn out and the whole thing. Exactly.
- [85:26]
Unknown
No, I mean, part of the charm. If they redid it, it would. It up.
- [85:29]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, you go. You go and remodel and it's not.
- [85:31]
Unknown
Oh, my God. If you read it, Cats's Deli. I'd slap you. How dare you. How dare you take the. All the pictures of dead celebrities off the wall? Like, you know, that's part of it. The.
- [85:42]
Guy Fieri
You ever been to Defaro's over in Brooklyn?
- [85:44]
Unknown
No.
- [85:45]
Guy Fieri
Pizza.
- [85:45]
Unknown
No.
- [85:46]
Guy Fieri
Old guy there cuts the basil with scissors.
- [85:48]
Unknown
Oh.
- [85:49]
Guy Fieri
I remember standing there and just looking at the pizza come out and it doesn't look like. I mean, it's just next level pizza. You've been to Rao's?
- [85:57]
Unknown
No.
- [85:58]
Guy Fieri
Rails is in Harlem. The Italian joint we'll call R A O S. Okay. And it is the old school. I mean, this is. This is an Italian joint that you can only get in if you know somebody, you're with somebody. Tiny little place, maybe 15 tables.
- [86:13]
Unknown
There it is right on the corner. 1996. Wow.
- [86:17]
Guy Fieri
And I tell you so. You tell me when you're in New York next, and I'll call my Uncle Bo.
- [86:22]
Unknown
What street is it on?
- [86:23]
Guy Fieri
I don't know.
- [86:24]
Unknown
Click on New York. What does it say? What the. What the address is? Yeah. East 114th Street. Wow. When the original.
- [86:32]
Guy Fieri
The floor is all slanted, like, if you're sitting at the wrong part of the table, you're. You're sitting having dinner kind of cockeyed like this. Everybody's on top of each other. It's all family. It's. It's. It's an experience. But that's what you talk about. Because then I went to Rails in. In Vegas when they put one in. The Caesar in Caesars. Same pictures on the wall. Same. All that stuff, but it just didn't have. It was good, but it just wasn't.
- [86:56]
Unknown
There it is. Look at that. That looks amazing. Another place I love is Peter Luger's.
- [87:03]
Guy Fieri
Oh, yeah.
- [87:05]
Unknown
Peter Luger's in Brooklyn.
- [87:07]
Guy Fieri
You being a meat guy.
- [87:08]
Unknown
Oh, my God. And they bring that steak to your plate, and it's covered in butter and it's crackling.
- [87:13]
Guy Fieri
Oh, I don't even eat the sides. I'm not. I mean, everybody else get that, right?
- [87:18]
Unknown
They just have it down too. Like, it's so consistent. Every time you go to. The steak is exactly. Perfectly cooked.
- [87:24]
Guy Fieri
You've been to Jeff Ruby's.
- [87:25]
Unknown
Where's that?
- [87:26]
Guy Fieri
He's got him Nashville, Louisville, Cincinnati. Jeff Ruby's a character amongst characters. You got. If you ever get a chance to go to one of the steakhouses, this guy, they crushed steak. I made some of my favorite steak in the country. I was just at the derby, and I was at his place and eating steak and took Taylor. Taylor shared in there, and they were. They were pretty. They're like, taylor, yeah. Meat guy. Meat guy.
- [87:46]
Unknown
I said, just, oh, you're friends with Taylor? Yeah, I was just with him Saturday night. He did the commencement speech at ut.
- [87:52]
Guy Fieri
Great guy. I mean, you know, you know, incredible speech, man.
- [87:55]
Unknown
He killed it.
- [87:57]
Guy Fieri
He walks the talk. There's no. About that.
- [87:59]
Unknown
Yeah, I love that.
- [88:00]
Guy Fieri
He helped me with the fundraiser. We do. So I do a lot of philanthropy. That's my. You know, being a dad was my biggest job, my biggest responsibility. Husband, restaurateur, chef, all that. But my. My end game is my philanthropy. Philanthropy to me, I mean, I have so much opportunity, and there's so many good things coming my way. I try to divert as much of that towards doing it. So my philanthropy is about first responders, first responders, active military, and veterans. But now that I have this program going where we can do things to raise money. And it's not just raise money. It's raise the money and then do things with it. Like when the fires happened in la. We went down with our team. We have a big rescue trailer that's 50ft long. We can feed about 5,000 a day out of it. And I have a bunch of chef buddies and so they all come and help and we just pump out food for first responders. But I was doing. We had the fires in Maui and devastation, and I know the fire feeling because I was up there in Humboldt in Northern California, in Sonoma county when we had our bad fires. And so we raised money. So I got 40 chefs together. We were all in town doing. I do a show called Tournament of Champions. They were in town for the tournament and we put on a dinner for 150 people. So I called Taylor and said, hey, I'm doing this event, you want to come up? And he says, only if I get to cook. You know, we're going to cook together. So we brought up all these, you know, four sixes, these tomahawk chops the size of, you know, a manhole cover. And we cooked. And so we sat there, we raised money and we did all these different things like, you know, go to Four Sixes Ranch. You can go be, you know, you can go, you know, have a culinary experience with Guy, blah, blah, blah. And in one night, we raised 1.7 million with 150 people in the room.
- [89:39]
Unknown
That's incredible.
- [89:40]
Guy Fieri
And a big part of that was Taylor. I think three of the biggest packages sold were for over a hundred thousand bucks to go down to his ranch or to go. No, actually it was to go up to Montana, to Yellowstone to see the filming.
- [89:54]
Unknown
Oh, wow.
- [89:54]
Guy Fieri
He's just that kind of dude, man. He. That dude. Everybody. He gives everybody the time. He's. I moved just at the derby, walking around together, just class act. Just love that guy.
- [90:04]
Unknown
Yeah, he's a legit.
- [90:05]
Guy Fieri
And then what the. The shows he's making.
- [90:08]
Unknown
I know. I don't know how he can do it. Landman, Well, I don't know how he does so many shows. I keep finding shows. Like, this show looks interesting. Terry Sheridan show. Like what, Lioness? Yeah, he's got landman 210 shows.
- [90:21]
Guy Fieri
Have you watched Landman?
- [90:22]
Unknown
Yeah, I love it. I'm a huge Billy Bob fan.
- [90:25]
Guy Fieri
Oh, and he's the coolest.
- [90:26]
Unknown
He's the best.
- [90:27]
Guy Fieri
I said to him, I go, did you write that for him? I mean, it couldn't be Billy Bob any goddamn better. Said the one liners are the best goddamn thing. It's. I can't get enough of it. But I love, I love Kings of or Kings Of Mayor Kingstown. That was great.
- [90:44]
Unknown
That was another one.
- [90:45]
Guy Fieri
Remember the. Starting the first episode. You didn't see that coming.
- [90:49]
Unknown
Right.
- [90:50]
Guy Fieri
Right at the beginning. The guy that you thought was going to be the lead, you didn't think it's gonna be.
- [90:53]
Unknown
Spoiler alert.
- [90:55]
Guy Fieri
No. That is, if you haven't watched it by now. You're missing it. Tough. Sorry I blew up for you.
- [90:59]
Unknown
It's another Taylor show. He's got so many shows. I just don't understand how he can put together. So 1923, 1883, Yellowstone, like, God damn. I think they're doing another one. I think they're doing like a 1943. I just watched the end of 1923 and cried like a baby.
- [91:17]
Guy Fieri
I was bummed the Yellowstone ended the way it did, though.
- [91:20]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [91:20]
Guy Fieri
Circumstances were up outside of the. Outside of the show. Circumstances.
- [91:25]
Unknown
Yeah. I don't know what happened. Why would Kevin Costner want to leave that show? I just don't understand what happened.
- [91:30]
Guy Fieri
I was. What I read or what I thought I learned was that he had his own project and his.
- [91:35]
Unknown
I'm sure he did. I mean, Kevin Costner's been around for so long, it's probably hard for him to do somebody else's. His thing for so long too.
- [91:42]
Guy Fieri
So good.
- [91:43]
Unknown
Yeah, I know. He was perfect in that role, too.
- [91:46]
Guy Fieri
So iconic.
- [91:47]
Unknown
I know the ending.
- [91:48]
Guy Fieri
I mean, even if you're gonna leave. My bummer for it was. My bummer about it was even if you're gonna leave, just. I mean. Well, I would go out better than in the situation was. I mean, they did it the way they did it. I'm not. I'm not discrediting the show by any means, but I'm just saying I just wanted it to be like the way it was from the beginning. Yeah.
- [92:07]
Unknown
How they did it, but it's almost kind of like a you.
- [92:10]
Guy Fieri
It seemed like to me from which side exactly. I'm not coming back. We'll wait till you see how you go.
- [92:16]
Unknown
Yeah, exactly.
- [92:17]
Guy Fieri
And Taylor is a little bit. I mean, I wouldn't cross him.
- [92:20]
Unknown
Yeah, he's got a little bit of that in him. It's funny. I was telling him about this ranch that I hunt out in California and he's like, oh, he's the cowboy at that place. Like, he's a legit guy.
- [92:30]
Guy Fieri
It's a badass dude.
- [92:31]
Unknown
Yeah. He's a good dude, too. Solid human being, you know, you're talking to him. He's right there. You know, he's not.
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Guy Fieri
He told me come. He says, listen, I Know what you're doing up there in Northern California, You've done your fundraiser there a bunch of years. He says, come down and do it. My ranch, he says, I will bring you the people with the money that believe in what you're doing with these first responders and these. Because when we don't have disasters, we just go do positive energy thank yous to different municipalities. We just did one in, in Florida, in southern south Florida. We just bring the trailer in, bring a bunch of chefs in, call up the local sheriff, call up the troopers, call up everybody. You know, bring your families if you want. It's free lunch time for you to celebrate and be recognized. You know, we got people walking around the streets that don't understand why our country's free. They don't have any idea what it takes to be a free country. And they don't understand the sacrifice. Not just the sacrifices that the actual individual makes, but the sacrifice the family makes. Now we're not even talking about the loss of somebody. We're talking about just the, you know, being deployed for seven months and not seeing dad for seven months or seeing your husband or your wife or whatever. And I remember I was on the USS Enterprise and I was doing a, doing a, you know, philanthropy event. And it was years ago. I was cooking for the, the sailors and a bunch of Marines on, there's like 5200 people and I'm on the line serving this young sailor and she came through and we, you know, kind of talking for a second and she Sundays, I have four kids. I said, she wasn't very old. I said, how many? She goes, well, I have a 8 month old baby. Baby's on the ship. She goes, no babies, no. I said, how could you be away from your child at this age? And she's like, no, it's, you know, I'm deployed and I'm like, what a commitment, you know, what a commitment to do. And the kids without. So I think, I mean, my mantra is we're talking about people pushing things on other people about their beliefs or their opinions, their attitudes. And I said, you know, I kind of divert from all of it and, you know, if you don't want to like something, don't like it. That's your thing. But I am hell bent on what goes on in this country about how we recognize our veterans and our first responders and our active military. We have, we got, we're missing some pieces. Yeah, we got some people that have made the ultimate commitment, the ultimate sacrifice. It's like the Stolen valor shit. Oh, I'll lose my mind on that. Because that's just crazy, people. The commitment that it takes.
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Unknown
Of course.
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Guy Fieri
And so we put so much into putting the soldiers and the sailors and all these military folks into these programs. And then when they come back, I don't think that we put the same amount of commitment. And I think that we've got a lot of people need a lot of help. There's a lot of ptsd. There's a lot of shit going on. So my interest is I'm not gonna solve that situation. I'm not the one that's gonna be able to.
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Unknown
But at least she could recognize. Recognize and give them recognize.
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Guy Fieri
Talk about it. We carry challenge coins. I ran into one of your guys as a first responder. Also didn't know that he served our country in the military. Please. When you see somebody in uniform, if you. You see somebody with a Vietnam vet hat, you see somebody that's in. You know, just take a moment, just say thank you. Thank you. Goes so far, and people think, oh, there's nothing I can do? No, it means a ton to people. Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to get on my rant, but I know that's one of my hardcore issues.
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Unknown
That's good. That's a beautiful perspective because it's. It's. Especially with first responders and law enforcement in this country, they just don't get any love. It's kind of crazy, like the cops are the bad guys in this country. Like, that's why the. The defund the police movement, which is driving me crazy like you are. You guys are out of your mind.
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Guy Fieri
But we're going to have a march, and we'd like you to be there to keep people from throwing shit at us.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Guy Fieri
So. So here.
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Unknown
Here's that crazy is a defund the police march. But we need the police.
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Guy Fieri
We need you. So the people that are. Again, so when we had the fires in Northern California, I was watching a lot of where they're feeding them. It was up. And actually, we're up in paradise. It was devastating fire.
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Unknown
That was a crazy fire, Joe.
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Guy Fieri
I drove through it. I don't know what. I don't know what the surface of the moon looks like, but I can tell you it was as close to it because there was nothing standing. There was nothing there. The only thing that didn't burn down was a fire station. I mean, and not because they've defined.
- [96:43]
Unknown
Those people that got stuck on the road.
- [96:45]
Guy Fieri
Stuck, cars gone, Everything got bombs. I mean, it was. It Was. It was. I don't know the term, but. So I'm standing there and I'm feeding people. And I know for a fact, because I just been inside the. I just went to the. The fire. I went and fed people at the fire station. That was the only building standing. And I said, why, why aren't you guys over here eating? We're serving a bunch of food. Nah, it's, you know, just stay over here. I said, you guys are fire victims. Your house is burnt down. Yeah, but, you know, and you had all kinds of restaurants feeding people and all this stuff. And I'm watching these guys eat granola bars and eat MREs. And I said, come over and get some food.
- [97:20]
Unknown
And then.
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Guy Fieri
No, no, no. I said, okay, that's it. Next day, picked up my trailer, we moved. I said, we only feed first responders. Not that I'm not about the fire victims. I think the fire victims is terrible. But the reality of it is we have a lot of people that were focusing on the victims and giving them which they need. But these guys were doing these men and women weren't going to bed these. They were doing 72 hour shifts, sleeping in the back of their patrol car. They drove their patrol car up from Riverside and they're up in Northern California now. And so that's what I changed. I pivoted. My whole foundation was, when the disasters go down, we're going to get there and we're going to focus on the first responders. We were down in LA for 10 days. We fed 25,000 meals. Now, it's not going to feed everybody and it's not going to take care of everything. But there is a point of them being recognized or knowing that we recognize them. And I had so many chefs in LA that showed up and jumped on the trailer and were cooking food, and we were almost cooking, you know, 24 hours, you know, just rolling over and people were so thankful.
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Unknown
That's awesome.
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Guy Fieri
Yeah. But we all can do these things, you know, we can do these things. We can make, donate. Okay, maybe you don't have the money. Donate the time. Maybe you don't have the time. Do the positive reinforcement on the, on social media. You know, if you don't have the time, you don't have social media, you don't have the money, you don't have time. Just pat somebody on the back and say thanks. I mean, that's. We really can do. We can do way more.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Guy Fieri
And we can make a bigger impact.
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Unknown
Well, just as a society, we need to recognize the importance of these people and appreciate them for what they do. And I don't think that that's been accentuated. That's not been. People haven't focused on that. And that's a top down thing. That comes from the President, that comes from the, the cabinet, that comes from the way the country perceives these people and the way they award these people and you know, the way that our media treats them. You know, the media had a field day after George Floyd with this defund the police stuff and just that the kind of devastation that does for morale and for recruiting and you know, just the overall feeling that these people have, like, why am I doing this job where not only am I not being thanked for it, but I am being thought of as the enemy.
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Guy Fieri
And then if I do something, if I do something, I'm not going to get supported.
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Unknown
Right.
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Guy Fieri
You know, because I'm going to get persecuted.
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Unknown
Right. And every day you show up, you pull people over, you're worried you're going to get shot. Every day they all have ptsd, every one of them.
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Guy Fieri
You go pull. A buddy of mine's a fireman. And I didn't really understand, I didn't think about, until he brought it up to me one day and he said his name is Jay Lavar. And Jay said, you know, you go pull kids out of a car, you go, you go do a face site and then you go home to your kids, right?
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Unknown
That's horrible.
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Guy Fieri
That'll just wreck you. But I, you know, like I said, I'm so interested in what we can do and we have so much. We're the greatest country in the world. We're finally riding the ship, we're getting into better space. But gosh, let's start focusing on it. Let's start focusing on the fundamentals that made us the ass kicking, name taking center of, you know, that made us the best. And we have to start ingraining, we have to start teaching. That I was just talking about, I just did a podcast for the Dale Carnegie Institute and that was a book that changed my life. When I was young, when I was open thinking.
- [100:42]
Unknown
Grow rich. No, what is it?
- [100:43]
Guy Fieri
How to win friends and influence people.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Guy Fieri
And it talks really about just human nature, about how you treat people and treat people the way you want to be treated and think before you act and think before you speak or before you light somebody up on a text, you know, kind of. And I was, I was going through this and I said, you know, this is like a course that should be taught at freshman high School, Absolutely. And we should teach civility and we should teach respect and responsibility. We should take, you know, back your mouth up, you know, don't go popping off and do these things the way we grew up. I mean, I'm not saying that violence is the answer, but you definitely didn't have people running their mouth like they do now because there was hell to pay at 3 o' clock, you know, that kind of stuff. So I think that we need to get involved in teaching our young America that they have, they have a voice, they have an opinion, they have, they're very worthwhile and let's just do it the right way. But I think that Dale Carnegie Institute, that how to win funds there. I didn't know how many things they do it worldwide. And I just think I was just telling my sons about it. I said, you can all expect that you're going to be going to one of these programs or doing one of these courses. I made them all read the book.
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Unknown
That's great.
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Guy Fieri
You know, I mean, people in school.
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Unknown
Get taught how to. I mean, you get taught a lot of information, but I think one of the things that's missing is getting taught how to behave and think and how to critically think and how to view the world.
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Guy Fieri
The number critical thinking to me is, I mean, even say the term to somebody critical thinking and they'll look at you and go, but they don't know what it means. Critical thinking is solving situations, is evaluating the environment and coming up with calculating. It's not taking a risk, it's taking a calculated risk. There's just so many of those types of things. My dad was a huge critical thing. I mean, he was. So we had a rule when I was a kid, Joe. We'd be driving down the road and my dad would say, what are you thinking? You're quiet over there. What are you thinking? One thing I was not allowed to say was nothing. He'd say, God, full of shit. What do you think? I mean, what do you think? And I'm saying, well, all there's, it's all grass, but under the telephone pole there's no grass. And then we would spend the next goddamn hour talking about why there's no grass under the telephone pole and why.
- [103:18]
Unknown
Is there no grass under the telephone pole?
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Guy Fieri
Fire. You know, the ability to get to the poles. They have to be able to drive to them. So you look at it because like you go into the wine country, you know, you look at all these mountains that have all these telephone poles going. If you find roads on Top of mountains and so forth. It's usually firebreak or access to the telephone poles. But we would do this critical thinking thing, and it was so funny. My. My young. My nephew. My sister was dying of cancer, and I took him away for the day, and we're driving around in a Corvette, and we're at the stoplight, manual Corvette, and sitting there talking to him. Jules. Jules is about 9. And he says, you know, Uncle Wade says, I really like talking to you. He says, you're fun to talk to. He says, it's a little bit different than talking to Jamps. Jamps was my dad, he says. I said, what do you mean, Jules? And he says, well, you know. You know, sometimes when I ask champs, you know, like, what time is it? You know, I just want to know what time it is. I don't want to know how the clock is made. I slipped the clutch, man. The car burned down. I'm like, jesus Christ. I don't want to know how the clock is. Because that was my dad, man. You'd ask him a question, like, what time is. Would you understand the difference between the analog. You got a digital. And my dad would go into this. He's an old. He was a submariner during Vietnam. He was a piece of work.
- [104:35]
Unknown
Oh, really?
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Guy Fieri
Yeah, I lost him right around my birthday, year and a half ago, and a pancreatic cancer. But he lived for six years with it. It was pretty.
- [104:44]
Unknown
He got a lot of cancer in your family.
- [104:46]
Guy Fieri
That sucks, man. And I think that, like, I didn't until you're in that club. The club sucks. But when you meet somebody that is in the fight, the fight for their life, telling you, give them a hug, give them a smile, give them encouragement. And if they have battled and they have won, recognize them as a warrior, as a survivor, especially breast cancer and all these horrible cancers that people are stricken with, we need to have more apathy, more understanding. And I'll tell you, one of the greatest groups of people in the whole world, hospice. I don't know how much you know about them and what it is, but it is. If you don't have. If you don't understand what hospice does, they are. They're Earth Angels. They're people that come in when you're battling this. You're watching a loved one die, and they come in, and they're the people that help you with the meds and help you with the caregiving and help you, and they're just these incredible. And you don't even know them, and they come into your Life. And they leave your life once the cancer's, but they stay. You'll meet them on the street again or you'll see something. But hospice is one of the greatest programs we have in this country. I don't know if it's worldwide, but it is. Hopefully you don't ever need to know it.
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Unknown
It's just shocking how many people have cancer up. Yeah.
- [106:05]
Guy Fieri
I've never been on a podcast where you can cuss. Really never been on. I haven't been on many podcasts.
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Unknown
How many podcasts you've been on?
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Guy Fieri
I don't know. I'm not very.
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Unknown
Which ones can't you cuss on?
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Guy Fieri
I don't know. I don't. You know, I've. Listen, I come from the Food Network. We don't do a lot of cussing on the Food Network. Would you give me all fired? I got fired up on my own about this.
- [106:21]
Unknown
But don't you cuss a normal life?
- [106:22]
Guy Fieri
Oh, I got to see.
- [106:23]
Unknown
Right, right. Well, don't. Most people do. So why. Why would they stop people from cussing?
- [106:28]
Guy Fieri
I've asked them forever. Could we please bleep just the show once in a while? Because sometimes I'll buy. I'll eat a dish. People say, I watch a show.
- [106:35]
Unknown
They say, no, you can't.
- [106:36]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, it's not really. It doesn't really get. It hasn't made it through Reddit, but it doesn't matter. It's. It's.
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Unknown
It does. I think it does matter because it's authentic.
- [106:45]
Guy Fieri
It is authenticity and it is the spike. It is the hammer. It is the. Yeah, this dish is.
- [106:49]
Unknown
So say, this is great.
- [106:52]
Guy Fieri
I listen.
- [106:52]
Unknown
Real Cat's Deli.
- [106:54]
Guy Fieri
Maybe you're going to inspire me to.
- [106:56]
Unknown
Push this, but I just don't understand why they would not. I mean, if you want to beep it out, that's fine.
- [107:00]
Guy Fieri
No, it has to be. You'd have to be bleeped out. Yeah.
- [107:02]
Unknown
Why even do that, though?
- [107:04]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, I got a lot of kids.
- [107:05]
Unknown
Oh, kids. Last thing we want to know.
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Guy Fieri
Because. Yeah, because they don't watch. Because they can't get. Remember when we had a Playboy hidden? You know, you had to play kids now.
- [107:14]
Unknown
Yeah. They got hardcore bringing up in the middle of school. In high school. Yeah, it's high school. Kind of nuts. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of nuts. It's not healthy. I'm sure they're being subjected to some stuff that. I mean, just the amount of murder they see, you know, kids are seeing car accidents and assassinations on. On their phone Twitter. Every day. And things that were very difficult to find when I was a kid. You had to find, like, Faces of Death, the Monkey in the Table.
- [107:43]
Guy Fieri
Remember renting it? You'd have to.
- [107:44]
Unknown
Apparently, a lot of that stuff was fake.
- [107:46]
Guy Fieri
No, really?
- [107:47]
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah, a lot of the Faces of Death stuff was fake, but some of it was real. Like the one where they took. Took the guy and they tied him between two trucks and they separated his body. Yeah.
- [107:58]
Guy Fieri
Good family fun. Come on over for Friday pizza night.
- [108:01]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [108:02]
Guy Fieri
Remember when you're a kid, though, getting the vhs, you'd go, you know, ours, we'd have to go get at the liquor store. Little town, you know, or you'd go all the way across the bridge and go get it, and you'd put your, you know, name down for the reservation to get it, and you'll get Faces of Death, and your friends would all come over and. Yeah, yeah, pizza night.
- [108:20]
Unknown
Yeah. You'd have to hide those things from your parents.
- [108:23]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, exactly.
- [108:24]
Unknown
Yeah. Now kids just have access to all the horrors of the world on their phone. And then they have to deal with, you know, people DMing them and contacting them. Like, who are these fucking predators that are reaching out to kids on a daily basis? They keep arresting people for that. You keep wanting to think that that's not a thing. And then you keep finding out more and more of it. It's like a Tim Tebow was just.
- [108:48]
Guy Fieri
He just did.
- [108:48]
Unknown
I just saw John Ryan's show. Yeah, yeah.
- [108:51]
Guy Fieri
What was a hundred and ten thousand? But see, we don't do. We don't do anything about it. You know, again, I don't want to get into.
- [108:59]
Unknown
Well, you know, the thing to do about it. Oh, hey, yeah. Unfortunately, you don't want to encourage vigilantism.
- [109:04]
Guy Fieri
But public square, you mean, maybe not.
- [109:06]
Unknown
Even just, you know, it's. The problem is you can't do that because some people are going to be unjustly accused. It's. It's the unfairly targeted. You know, there's people that you don't. You can't just. You have to have due process. This is.
- [109:23]
Guy Fieri
Well, Chris Hansen. You ever seen his Catch Predator?
- [109:25]
Unknown
Yes.
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Guy Fieri
So I love when they give the recap. You know, I guess that show stopped and now he's doing it on his own or whatever the case is, and they give the recap. And thank God he was doing that.
- [109:37]
Unknown
I know he opened a lot of people's eyes because most of us, you know, if you live in a normal neighborhood with normal friends. Normal. You don't have. You Know, you might have heard a story here and there.
- [109:49]
Guy Fieri
This is real shit. They're bringing their kids to it.
- [109:52]
Unknown
Yeah. You don't see it every day.
- [109:54]
Guy Fieri
Coaches, politicians, attorneys.
- [109:58]
Unknown
I know there's some sick people out there, man, and they live amongst us. That's what's up. And then the Nickelodeon thing, when you find out that people that were actually working for Nickelodeon, pressuring those kids. Oh, God, man. But if you thought about it, like, if you were really cynical and you thought about it through an evil mind, if you wanted to abuse kids, what would you do? You would work with.
- [110:21]
Guy Fieri
Work at Nickelodeon.
- [110:22]
Unknown
Jimmy Savile, that guy in the uk. You know about that?
- [110:25]
Guy Fieri
No.
- [110:25]
Unknown
Right? You don't know about that guy?
- [110:26]
Guy Fieri
No.
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Unknown
Oh, my God. He's the worst one.
- [110:29]
Guy Fieri
Your eyes.
- [110:30]
Unknown
First of all, this guy looked like a guy who would molest kids. He looked like a monster. And he had this show, I think it was called Jimmy Will Fix It. Is that what it was called? Jim Will Fix It? And he worked with all these, like, really sick kids. And everybody was like, oh, what a saint, that guy. And that guy was molesting children, like, who knows how many of them. Also, there's a Netflix thing on it. Jimmy Savile A British Horror Story. Netflix official site.
- [111:02]
Guy Fieri
It says, how about getting called to play that guy in a movie? Oh, you can't suck because it's. That guy right there. Must be playing. The guy in the movie must be Jimmy. Jimmy Coogan. I feel bad for Jimmy because he looks.
- [111:14]
Unknown
Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. You don't even want to watch that. I don't even want to know. But they hid the fact people knew that this guy was doing these things. Well, you look at Boy Scouts, look.
- [111:27]
Guy Fieri
What happened to poor Boy Scouts. I mean, I was.
- [111:29]
Unknown
I was.
- [111:29]
Guy Fieri
I didn't make it to Eagle Scouting, that stuff, but it was a Boy Scout. Learned some great stuff. Not any idea that stuff was going on. I don't think anything happened in my troop. I never heard about it. But that's exactly what you're saying. These guys would just go find their avenue. What's going to get me close to them, and then we're going to start doing it. So where is the. Remember who's the guy that shot the. The Predator? The karate coach that took his kid. Yeah. And he waited at the airport.
- [111:57]
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. That famous video.
- [111:59]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, yeah, that guy.
- [112:01]
Unknown
That's. I mean, yeah, he's a hero.
- [112:04]
Guy Fieri
That's how I'd handle it.
- [112:05]
Unknown
Yeah, I agree 100%. I mean, it's just. It's sick. But it's like if you were a sick person, that's what you would do if you wanted to be around kids. You would pretend that you're really interested in helping kids. Yeah, I was in the Boy Scouts too. Nothing happened to me. And then I was in a good troop and. But I was in the Boy Scouts with a bunch of crazy inner city kids. I was living in Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts, which is like, kind of sketchy outside of Boston. And they. They brought us to New Hampshire. We were all in the woods and they were tying kids up to their cots and dragging them out into the woods in the middle of the night and leaving them there. Like other kids were doing that. And. And put toothpaste on all your clothes because you couldn't wash it off. Like, they were just psycho kids. And they gave us 22s. That was the other part of the problem. I remember I was hanging out my friends and I heard. I was like, what is that? And someone goes, that's a ricochet. I was like this. So, like, the entire time I was in camp, all I did was go fishing every day. They had all these activities. I'm like, you guys can kiss my ass. I'd grab a fishing rod and go down to the lake. I'm like, I'm just gonna go fishing. The entire two weeks I'm here. This. There was just too many. But no one was getting. At least. It was just mostly kids being just unregulated.
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Guy Fieri
What a great way to up a great program. You know, you get these people that get in there and do that stuff, and kids are. So.
- [113:32]
Unknown
When you have kids, there's always going to be people that are evil. And a lot of those people, unfortunately, have had evil imposed on them, too, when they were young. And that's the really sad part about it. It's. It's just like. It's almost like getting bit by a vampire. And then you. You. You know, and then you wind up doing it too.
- [113:50]
Guy Fieri
Zombie.
- [113:51]
Unknown
Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's very evil. And they. They exist. And then there's also, like, people that are elites, and that's their thing. Like their. Their thing is to do something that is horrible. And you know, it. It's not available to other people. So it's like. I think there's. There's like a sickness that people have when they have power, like extreme power, and then they want, what else can I do? What else can I do? What. What else is. What's. What's in. What else is taboo? What else Is forbidden. Like all this diddy that's coming out.
- [114:25]
Guy Fieri
Like I was just gonna say, doesn't that sound topical?
- [114:27]
Unknown
Jesus Christ. The first day of the trial, did you pay attention to any of that stuff?
- [114:31]
Guy Fieri
This.
- [114:32]
Unknown
I looked at it for like 10 minutes this morning, and I was like, I gotta stop. I can't look at this.
- [114:36]
Guy Fieri
Well, what I. What freaks me out is the people sitting in the courtroom listening to it.
- [114:42]
Unknown
Right?
- [114:43]
Guy Fieri
And that's a. There's a wide spectrum of people that are getting subjected to it. And you just sit there and go, yeah.
- [114:50]
Unknown
Well, not only that. How about the fact that this guy was running this for decades? He was doing this for decades to who knows how many fucking people. And everybody was scared to talk about it because he'd have them killed. Yeah, it's really wild, man. There's. Evil is a real thing, you know, nobody wants to believe. Because if you believe in the devil, right, if you believe in Satan, you. You, you believe in something that's silly. Like most people believe. A lot of people believe in God. If you ask people, do you believe in God? Yeah, well, I'm not religious, but I believe God. Okay, well, do you believe in the devil? Most people say no. But do you believe in evil acts? Well, yeah. Well, people certainly do evil things. Well, where do you think that comes from? If evil is real, what is it about us that makes us want to deny the possibility that there's some nefarious force that is in human beings, that influences human beings? It's not as simple as, like, some people are bad, some people are good. No, maybe evil is a real element that you have to fight in life and that maybe this is just something that's been documented all throughout history. But our arrogance and our secular society wants to keep us from recognizing that as an actual factor. And that's why it gets through. You know, that's like.
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Guy Fieri
That's a great. That's a really great way to say it. Because if you do denounce, okay, so you say there's no devil, right? So then you're somewhat saying that there's no evil, but you're not branding evil with some type of identifying factor, then you kind of glaze over it a little bit. I think that's what I'm here you're saying. And I agree with it because it gets a. It gets a little too. I think people want tangibility. I think people like to be able to understand things and see it for real and so forth. But when you start just talking about root evil, when you start Looking at things like I went to the Oklahoma Bombing Memorial. When you look at shit like that, you think about the hate on this country and the 911 and you think. Or you just take it down to the Boy Scout troop leader. That or you take it to the. You take it whatever. There is a common. There's a common denominator there. And that is just what you call it evil. So call it devil, don't call it devil, but call it evil. The evilness is just in not being aware of it or not allowing ourselves to believe it, I think is part of the.
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Unknown
Well, it's the old quote. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled is making people believe he doesn't exist.
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Guy Fieri
All said.
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Unknown
But if you're, if you want to be thought of as a serious person, you never consider the devil. Like, oh come on, there's no, there's no Satan down there burning out.
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Guy Fieri
Yeah.
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Unknown
Outrageous. Get away. You know.
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Guy Fieri
Yeah. So how do you. So where do you. So how do you. Boy, this goes in a lot of Goddamn sure. This goes down some rabbit holes.
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Unknown
Yeah, well, there's rabbit holes in life, you know. Life is a lot of rabbit holes.
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Guy Fieri
But see, to me, this is when we talked about critical thinking. This is the stuff that when you really sit down and you have some conversations besides arguing whose team is better, you know, this is the type of stuff that you really have to get into some perspective. You can learn a lot.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Guy Fieri
If you're willing to talk about things and you're willing to open up and you're willing to be wrong. It's one of the things I'm always into is don't go into something with a predisposed opinion about it and be so hell bent on it's your way because you might really get your mind changed or you might really learn something. Nothing about it, but as soon as you lock down on, it's this way, you know.
- [118:38]
Unknown
And that's no devil.
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Guy Fieri
Yeah.
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Unknown
God's not real.
- [118:42]
Guy Fieri
I deal with it.
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Unknown
When you die, you just die. How the do you know? Have you been dead? Like, what are you talking about?
- [118:47]
Guy Fieri
Do you believe. So have you ever been to a medium?
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Unknown
A medium? Like a psychic medium? No, not a real one.
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Guy Fieri
Okay.
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Unknown
So I mean I don't, I don't think that I'm. I'm not like one of those people that says they don't exist. I think it's possible.
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Guy Fieri
I, I was a very anti. Not anti preaching, but anti. So my mom believes in it. Mom did, my wife does. Was my cup of tea not saying bad Just wasn't my cup of tea. My sister died real close with my sister. And I kept getting this weird feeling. I mean, my wife's not telling me to go, my mom's not telling me to go. No one's saying a thing to me. Then this, the hawk is a representation of my sister. This. I'm driving my big RV cross country with my family. Every year we do a big huge road trip with the family. This hawk flies outside of my window. Five minutes. No, it was a real five minutes. Flew along freeway with me. As fast as I was going dirt road, I was like. So I asked my mom, who was the lady to call. So I went and had this thing. Didn't know me very well, didn't know much about me. I had the most mind blowing experience, like, mind blowing. And I had to really sit there. I had to go back to my wife and my mom and say, okay, there's something out there that's going on, that's going. That's bigger than us, than I can comprehend. And the way I kind of. To make sense of it for myself, because I have to make sense of it, is if you're a baby laying in a bassinet and you can smell and you can breathe and you can poop and you can eat and you can sleep and giggle and. But I can talk to you. I can talk to the baby. Can't understand me, but there's some transmission of connection, you know, make it give.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Guy Fieri
At this stage, am I the baby in the bassinet and my sister's trying to talk to me and, like, I'm just kind of getting it, but I'm not. But is that possible? The older I get, the more I start to buy into, there's gotta be something else. There's no way it can be all this and not be something more. We didn't just. It doesn't vaporize go away. So the other day, maybe six months ago, sit in the hot tub. I had my routine of hot sauna, cold plunge, hot tub, infrared. I do all that. But I'm sitting there and I keep getting this thing. I gotta call this medium lady. And I text her and I said, hey, can I come see you? And she goes, yeah. She goes, you. Your dad's been. Your dad's been hitting me up quite a bit. Your dad's on. Dad wants to talk to you.
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Unknown
Your dead dad. My dead dad has been hitting her.
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Guy Fieri
Up to get in touch with me to make.
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Unknown
Does she know that your father's dead?
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Guy Fieri
She knows my dead yeah, she knew my dad's dead. But the point was. And there was more intricacies about it, but she said, yeah, he's been talking about. He goes, Were you just in Mexico? Yeah. Did you do something about him in Mexico? Something about an owl? There's no way in a million years she would know this.
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Unknown
An owl?
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Guy Fieri
Yeah, my dad comes back as an owl. So he said he was gonna be as an owl.
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Unknown
This is what he was saying to her.
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Guy Fieri
To me.
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Unknown
To you?
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Guy Fieri
Yeah. This is before he died.
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Unknown
Before he died, he said, I'm gonna come back as an hour was the thing.
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Guy Fieri
Wise guy.
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Unknown
Okay. Owls are dumb as.
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Guy Fieri
I don't know. I'm not crazy. I don't know that. I've never seen it smarter than me. They scared the out of me.
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Unknown
No, they're really dumb birds.
- [122:45]
Guy Fieri
That's great. That's my dad we're talking about. Thanks a lot.
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Unknown
No, I'm not saying your dad's dumb. I'm just saying it's weird that we all have this idea of act owls being wise. I took this lady who trains birds, she said, she says dumbest birds, it's like the only thing dumber than them is emus. It's like emus are dumb as.
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Guy Fieri
Just saw emus on a ranch yesterday.
- [123:02]
Unknown
She's. But she's like, we have this idea that owls are really smart.
- [123:06]
Guy Fieri
Well, whatever. Whatever the case is. I hung up of stained glass owl where my dad used to sit in our house in Mexico. No way. You know that. There's no way. So I don't know. I'm not cheating or preaching something. There's something bigger going on there.
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Unknown
Have you ever heard of the telepathy.
- [123:25]
Guy Fieri
Looking at me going, guys, guys. Fucking crazy. But it's. It really is my. I. There's got to be something else.
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Unknown
Have you ever heard the telepathy tapes?
- [123:32]
Guy Fieri
No.
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Unknown
The telepathy tapes are the. This podcast this woman put together from her work with nonverbal autistic kids and their families. Nonverbal autistic kids and their mothers in particular have an incredible measurable psychic bond where the mother can be in another room, the mother can look at images, the kid will be able to write down what the mother sees. The mother could be reading things and the child will write down what she's reading. And it turns out these kids have abilities that are unexplainable. She documented a non verbal autistic kid who had the ability to read hieroglyphs. They have the ability to read languages that they've never studied. It's very strange. And that they all meet up on some place called the Hill. Psychically, they meet up together and they all describe it. So someplace psychically where all these nonverbal autistic kids get together. Yeah. Like. So this documentary, the telepathy tapes, is, like, very well researched. Like, what they're doing. They made sure they covered up any reflective surfaces there was. They checked everybody for wires. They scanned the room for any device that could possibly transmit information. There was nothing. And these children were able to do this, like, a hundred percent of the time. This is. It's a real documented phenomenon that a lot of people were reluctant to believe in, you know, because it's one of those things. You believe in it all. You believe in fucking fairy's tale, superstition shit. You're. You're a sucker. But no, it's real. There's. There's some sort of a bond that exists. And the more people that I've talked to about this think that this is. It's not that this is an emerging phenomenon in human beings, but it's a neglected aspect of our senses of awareness. Because of language and because of media, we're being exposed to things all the time. So we've. We've kind of let that part of our brain atrophy. But that's intuition. That's when you know things about someone. You meet someone, you know, they're full of. You know, some people, you meet them and like, right away, like, get me the. Away from this guy. You know what I mean? Like, there's. You feel their. Their spirit.
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Guy Fieri
They. Scotty. Yeah.
- [125:57]
Unknown
Yeah. But it's. There's something real to that. And if you're in tune to it, you'll live a better life because you'll make better decisions. Because that energy, you'll feel. Feel that energy and you'll go. I see where this is going.
- [126:08]
Guy Fieri
I've had this. Yeah, this thing has been going on. So it was funny because when I said to the medium, I said, I'm here. Where's my sister? She said, oh, she just. She doesn't need to talk to you. I said, what the. I said, I just made this whole thing to come here. She said, she talks to you every day. She talks to you all the time because I was raising her kid. My parents. You lived with. My mom and dad live right next door to us. Lori and I have the two boys, Hunter and Ryder. But we're all big family and within the same acre. And I'm thin. I'm like, wow, it is Happening. I do. I get all these things because I'm thinking about things. I'm talking to Jules about things I'm working with Jules about as a young boy. And just all these things and a lot of it coming from things I think of my sister and I don't know. This is way outside of the spectrum of anything I ever talk about. I mean, I tell my close friends about it and probably people are watching this now saying, isn't that guy that does the show about the pizza, where's he coming off on this, on this? Talking to his dad, the owl, the non smart bird. But I believe. Well, we've seen the stories about somebody that's autistic and then they could just hear a song and play the piano.
- [127:21]
Unknown
Yes.
- [127:21]
Guy Fieri
I mean, that's not hocus pocus. That's not fake stuff. This is really. Our brains are so much more powerful.
- [127:27]
Unknown
Yeah.
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Guy Fieri
Then, you know, then we. It's like talking to people from. I have a buddy of mine that's from, from Germany, speaks four languages. He's a pretty smart guy, but he speaks four languages. They, they all get taught English in school while they get taught German from a young age from like first grade.
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Unknown
Yeah.
- [127:46]
Guy Fieri
So they all, you know, most of them all know how to speak a second language. But once you can learn a language and learn the, you know, how to adapt to languages, you have the opportunity to, you know, be more, you know, available to learn other languages. I just, you sit there and look at it and go, man, do we, do we not utilize? How much of it do we use?
- [128:02]
Unknown
Yeah, we distract ourselves. A lot of nonsense. But that's also like the difference between like an athlete and a sedentary person. Like, obviously your body can do a lot more than you're asking of it, you know, but there's something about autistic kids. They tap into some aspect of the brain that's just unavailable to you. And I, like, there's this one kid who flew over Manhattan in a helicopter and then did a absolutely picture perfect, detailed drawing of the skyline just from memory. And you watch him draw. You're like, this is insane. And then you see the actual photo of the skyline. You're like, how? How? Here it is. This kid. I mean, this is incredible, man. So this kid's. Look at that. How insane is that from flying over one time from fucking memory? Just from memory. I mean, this is incredible, man. Look at this. It's so nuts, man. Like, he remembers everything he saw and then he's drawing it and he's drawing.
- [129:14]
Guy Fieri
Joe he's not drawing a picture. He's drawing a. He's doing a billboard.
- [129:18]
Unknown
Yeah, he's not. It's a huge thing, and he's doing every fucking window, man. This kid remembers everything. It's nuts.
- [129:29]
Guy Fieri
I work with a program called Best Buddies. You've ever heard of it? Working with intellectually disabled adults and kids. Had a cousin with intellectual disabilities. I just thought everybody had a cousin that was a little different, a little unique and super major part of our family. Doug. And so I heard about. I learned about this program, Best Buddies, and it was started by Anthony Shriver, who's Eunice Shriver's son. Eunice Shriver started the Special Olympics, and Sergeant Shriver was the star of the sec, you know, the Shriver Kennedys, that whole group. You know what I'm speaking. So anyhow, I work with this program, and I work with these intellectually disabled adults and kids called Best Buddies. And I, when I got involved, it was Tom Brady hosting a celebrity football game at Harvard. And everybody would come and get involved, and the buddies that were athletic would participate. And I was just there because I was invited to go. So I had to do something. So I cooked. I made appetizers for the event. And it was so funny how these buddies would gravitate towards me and they wanted to cook. You know, food's that common denominator of all people. And so we really have developed the program into this Best Buddies program where we got all the buddies partnering with chefs. And the buddies love to do the repetitive, love to things that are laid out, organized and put them together and so forth, but just an amazing group of people and huge hearts and huge energy and huge. Never a bad day, always a smile, always happy, always want to give you a hug. You know, there's just so many. But again, when we were talking about things that get glazed over, things that get, you know, you had school, you had the special ed group, and they went off to their space. And we never really, I think, educated people how to work inside or work with or understand or have the compassion to understand, you know, people with disabilities. And fortunately, I think we're getting better at it. I think our country is, or our world is starting to. But, you know, when we can look at that and take that appreciation and see that and not see that as weird, but take that and appreciate it and think it and say, wow, yeah, you know, here's somebody that's taking a difficulty or a major difficulty and doing something with it. And I think that's. We need to be More. We need to open our minds up more to that stuff.
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Unknown
There's a lot we don't really understand all that the mind is capable of. When you see someone do something like that, you're like, why is that available to an autistic kid and not available to everyone else? Like, what is it about that? Like what is it about whatever he's missing in his ability to communicate or I don't know if he's non verbal, I don't know what that young man's issues are in particular, but clearly there's something that doesn't work well. So something else works in an extraordinary way. And this is a thing with like some of them that are just geniuses when it comes to music or mathematics or whatever it is. Like, it's like the, the brain has this insane potential and all sorts of weird ways. And which brings us back to like how much, how much of the problem is like what we're distracting our brains with every day? And what kind of fuel are you feeding your brain? You're feeding your brain a bunch of nonsense and gossip and, you know, negativity.
- [132:48]
Guy Fieri
And how much are we not paying attention to? Yeah, how much we're not paying attention to? Because like, like I was just saying, when that now becomes. Because we can chronicle it and we can see the video of it and it gets on social media, we can be aware of it. There's the positive side of social media, but there's so many of these buddies. Like this young lady got up and sang the other day at this event and you know, very non communicative and when you just see her on the. But once she got on stage, she just blossomed into this, you know, this other person. So I think that we're hopefully starting to take some recognition to the fact that there's more potential and it should be recognized.
- [133:26]
Unknown
Yeah, it's trippy. It is trippy. It's, it's, it's trippy. When you see these savants and you, you wonder like, what is it about them that makes them so extraordinary? And is this like, is this going to be more people like that in the future? Like obviously cavemen couldn't do that, but these people could do that. Is there going to be more people like that in the future? Will there be more savants? You know, like where, where is the, like the human species headed?
- [133:56]
Guy Fieri
But then do we have some of these people that. We don't call them savants or so, but there's some people that have invented some and created some stuff and took Some recognition, some awareness to, you know, bacterias becoming, you know, Louis Pasteur. I mean, there's some people that have some. Some higher thinking power that you've taken us down some paths that, you know, it's like the computer and all of that, that was. I mean, I. I can lose. You can. You can lose yourself in it. That somebody was able to. I do it with, with architecture. When I look at a building and you look at these gigantic skyscrapers and I'm happy when I can build a woodshed that's square, you know, that everything lines up correctly. But somebody's going to do this out of steel and cement and glass and all this thing. And they just build that and it's perfect. And you just look at that and go, wow, what goes on in their mind? Because I'll make you a really good pasta dish right now.
- [134:50]
Unknown
Well, there's a place for everybody in this world. That's the thing. It's like whatever their personality is, the way their mind works, it's suited to architecture. Yours is suited to food, some suited to music. There's some people that are, you know, comedic geniuses. There's some people that are artistic genius geniuses. It's like, that's the beautiful thing about life. It's the most difficult thing for young people is to find the correct path. And the worst thing is when you're on the wrong path and you just live a life of suffering and you wish you were doing something else. That's the saddest thing to me is someone who really wants to do something else. I mean, that's the classic song, right? Let's sing a song. You're the piano man.
- [135:27]
Guy Fieri
It's. It's fostering. So what I try to do with when I speak to young kids or classrooms or schools or whatever I do, I said, quit chasing the dollar, Quit looking at it, thinking, I want to make the money. I just say the first thing I say to them. What makes you happy?
- [135:44]
Unknown
Right?
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Guy Fieri
What do you enjoy? Because if you enjoy it, it's not a job. If you enjoy it, you'll be able to put so much more time and energy into it without being tired. You know, go be your best self and go find what you love in life. And if you do that, it's gonna come see the ability to survive, the ability to live and have a house, it will come to. Now, that's not to say just because you love art means that you're gonna be Picasso tomorrow and you're gonna do it. You might have to actually go Put in some hard work and take an art class. You know you're gonna have to do some shit, but you got to. And that's the other thing we're missing. Hard work. Yeah, let's remember that.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Guy Fieri
Anybody says that there's no such thing as 9 to 5 job. I work every single day, all the time. I mean, if I'm having fun, if I'm out, you know, ripping it up, I'm at stage, I'm having fun. But it's always gonna be worse. It's always coming back to taking care of business. But I just think that when people start getting lost with that. One of the things I hope that the nucleus around these kids is that we foster imagination, foster critical thinking back to what we were saying and foster them into achieving their goals. Help them write goals, help them have belief. You know, we can't just set them away. They're getting lost in their phone and believing that they're going to be a tick tock star.
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Unknown
Yeah, that's a problem. That's a problem. When you ask kids like, what do they want to do? And a large percentage of them just want to be famous because they see these famous people and they see like, oh, good, this guy's got a Ferrari. Look at that. Guy's got a big house.
- [137:18]
Guy Fieri
Mind blowing, though.
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Unknown
It's mind blowing.
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Guy Fieri
And it's such a false reality.
- [137:24]
Unknown
Yeah, but it's also a reality for some people. So it's like what they're looking for. And it's also the thing that they're getting on their phone all day long. They're getting people who are doing it and you can do it. You know, it's a really crazy statistic. 10% of girls that are between 18 and I think like 25 are on OnlyFans.
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Guy Fieri
What?
- [137:49]
Unknown
Yeah, 1 out of 10 girls are posing on OnlyFans. And here gets even crazier. I think it's something like the number of like, what's the percentage of men that are subscribing to OnlyFans? I think it's 80 million. Watch, I think there's a hundred.
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Guy Fieri
Can I call him for research, by the way?
- [138:17]
Unknown
Sure. I think there's like 160 million men in this country and 80 million of them are on only fans. Are subscribing to only fans.
- [138:30]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, I've seen some of the stats.
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Unknown
Literally like 50 of the men of a certain age are subscribing to only fans and 10 of the girls are involved in being models.
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Jamie
So the number you said about 10% checks out, but it's like it's using stats says there's 1.2 million women aged 18 and 24 on Only Fans. And there are approximately 10 million women that age in America.
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Unknown
So, yeah, 10%. And then 10% of the girls are showing their body and doing things on OnlyFans for money.
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Jamie
I got 82 million men are reported to. To subscribe to Only fans. Might be overstated, but this also weirdly says that the platform had 1.2 million American women. So that's. Almost all of them are 18 to 24. There's 200. And this also says there's 3 million registered creators. So I don't know who the other one point.
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Unknown
Probably over 24.
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Jamie
Or dudes or dates.
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Unknown
Yeah, that's right. There's dudes that do it too. Yeah.
- [139:34]
Jamie
There's not. Would be more dudes than women on there.
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Guy Fieri
That's.
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Unknown
That's kind of crazy.
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Guy Fieri
Can't take a piss.
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Unknown
Yeah. Well, let's just. We can wrap this up.
- [139:40]
Guy Fieri
No, I'm doing it for this up. I'm.
- [139:42]
Unknown
We got to wrap it up soon. We're doing it 2 hours and 40 minutes.
- [139:45]
Guy Fieri
I don't want to go anywhere this awesome. If you would.
- [139:48]
Unknown
By the way, congratulations on forever. Thank you.
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Guy Fieri
I. I've listened and I. And I applaud you. I think that you read yourself, read your body, read your mind. Tell you, you know, I heard you talking about it. I think that, you know, people need to listen to themselves.
- [140:02]
Unknown
Yeah.
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Guy Fieri
And, you know, see how it makes them feel. And say I. I talk about people, what they eat and how it makes them feel. But. No, that's a. That's a big no. I. I think this is weird. It's like we don't. There's so many other things. I was just gonna pick your brain about the dark web, because that's another thing that I just sit there and go, what is back? I don't even want to know what's behind that door.
- [140:21]
Unknown
You don't want to know.
- [140:22]
Guy Fieri
And I don't want to know what's behind that door. And excuse me, because I started talking to that. That, that tech security people, but it's like this only fan stuff. I mean, I don't even want to know about it. I don't even want to.
- [140:33]
Unknown
The darkness of the human soul, it exists always. And for a lot of these girls, like, they just don't want to have a regular job. And then they get caught up in this only fans thing.
- [140:42]
Guy Fieri
And then you talk about money, living in perpetuity.
- [140:45]
Unknown
Yeah, I know.
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Guy Fieri
Talking about that one. Let that one ride for you. Because people are screen grabbing that stuff and people recording that stuff, and it's. Yeah, yeah, good luck on that one.
- [140:55]
Unknown
I know. And it's just like, nobody's telling them that when they're young, they're not getting raised properly, unfortunately for the little bit.
- [141:00]
Guy Fieri
Of scratch you're getting now and then, how that affects you in your life, I mean, it's. Yeah, we need. It's. I'm not, you know, I don't have the answer for it, but I really think that I was talking about making a contribution to your community. You know, I remember how much. How many parents used to come to the classroom and help in the classroom when I was a kid. I don't know if that still happens. I don't know what goes on. But this mentorship program, I ran into a guy the other day with. It was a Big Brother, Big Brother, Big Sister program. And I was just. So. It was great to meet him. I'm like, tell me about it, man. Like, you're doing that. I didn't even know the program exists anymore.
- [141:35]
Unknown
That's awesome.
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Guy Fieri
So there's. There's things like that that I just hope we still remember that we had some really core fundamentals. Doesn't mean our era was right or that we didn't do it without failure. We didn't do without our issues, you know, as we were speaking. But I really hope that we continue to believe in ourselves because we can write the ship, man.
- [141:56]
Unknown
Yeah. There's always going to be good in this world, and there's always going to be evil, and you got to kind of like battle it out. That's. That's part of what life is about. And the unfortunate thing is that a lot of that evil is why you appreciate the good, you know, and the good is there to show people that there's another path.
- [142:16]
Guy Fieri
Yeah, Well, I. Back to the beginning of, you know, you're not political, you're. I mean, you've got your. But the positivity in the conversation that goes on. John Krasinski during COVID I did his show. He had this really cool podcast, or I don't know what exactly you call the shows. Did you see it? It was all the. Right. It was about. It was a whole pause.
- [142:37]
Unknown
Oh, it's a great show.
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Guy Fieri
It's a great. God, I can't think of the name of it. It was an acronym. It was like all positive stuff or something along those lines. Helped me raise some money. I was raising money for restaurant workers and we just need more positive noise. We need more positive message.
- [142:51]
Unknown
Yeah. And people need to make a decision in their own mind that they want to accentuate the positive aspects of their own life and stop dwelling on the negative and move forward and try to be a positive influence in as many ways as they can.
- [143:06]
Guy Fieri
You're doing it, man.
- [143:07]
Unknown
You're here.
- [143:07]
Guy Fieri
You're YouTube example. Thank you for having me.
- [143:10]
Unknown
My pleasure.
- [143:11]
Guy Fieri
I've looked forward to this for a really long time. I think that my. My three boys are getting more of a kick out of this than anybody.
- [143:18]
Unknown
Hi to them. Yeah. Thanks to you. Appreciate you. Thanks for being here and thank you for the cigars. It's very nice.
- [143:24]
Guy Fieri
Keep it up.
- [143:25]
Unknown
Thank you.
- [143:26]
Guy Fieri
Tell me when.
- [143:27]
Unknown
All right?
- [143:27]
Guy Fieri
Tell me whatever I can help.
- [143:28]
Unknown
Yes, sir. All right. Thank you. All right, bye. Everybody.
- [143:32]
Guy Fieri
Sa.