#2325 - Aaron Rodgers

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Joe Rogan Experience #2325 - Aaron Rodgers

Release Date: May 21, 2025

Host: Joe Rogan

Overview

In episode #2325 of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan engages in an extensive and wide-ranging conversation with comedian and friend Bert Kreischer, alongside contributions from Jamie Vernon. The discussion delves into various topics, including contemporary health trends, governmental policies, conspiracy theories, and the state of modern society. Although the episode is titled after NFL star Aaron Rodgers, the provided transcript focuses primarily on Joe's dialogue with Bert and Jamie, suggesting a possible mislabeling or an extended conversational segment featuring these guests.

Key Topics Discussed

1. Nicotine Pouches and Health Benefits
2. Controversial Arrest Case Involving Frog Embryos
3. Government Policies: Texas vs. California
4. Corruption and Media Misinformation
5. Elon Musk and Technological Advancements
6. UFOs, Remote Viewing, and Government Secrecy
7. Vaccines, Cancer, and Public Health Concerns
8. Sports and Doping Scandals
9. Political Dynamics and Media Influence
10. Education, Healthcare, and Social Systems

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1. Nicotine Pouches and Health Benefits

Discussion Highlights: Joe Rogan and Bert Kreischer initiate their conversation with an examination of nicotine pouches, brands like Kodiak and Grizzly, and their increasing popularity. They debate the potential health benefits of nicotine, contrasting traditional smoking methods with newer, milder alternatives.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Rogan (00:29): "These are athletic nicotines. These are threes. They don't fuck you up. They're mild."
• Bert Kreischer (00:36): "There's a lot of these studies coming out now about how good nicotine is for you."

2. Controversial Arrest Case Involving Frog Embryos

Discussion Highlights: The conversation shifts to a peculiar case involving a woman arrested for illegally bringing frog embryos into the United States. They speculate on her motives, linking it to her work on cancer detection technology at Harvard, and discuss the possible geopolitical implications involving Russia.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Rogan (02:10): "Chat GPT is never wrong."
• Bert Kreischer (03:13): "But there's a lot of people that want some heads to roll."

3. Government Policies: Texas vs. California

Discussion Highlights: Joe and Bert contrast the governance and societal outcomes of Texas and California, particularly in the context of COVID-19 responses. They highlight Texas as a bastion of freedom and critique California's stringent regulations and cultural shifts.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Rogan (04:12): "Now, I'm biased, I think right here. I like Texas. This is the last stand. This is the fucking Alamo."
• Bert Kreischer (05:09): "Blue, no matter, no matter who."

4. Corruption and Media Misinformation

Discussion Highlights: The duo delves into systemic corruption within governmental and corporate structures. They critique the mainstream media's portrayal of figures like Elon Musk, alleging bias and misinformation. The conversation also touches on the influence of large financial institutions and mutual ownership among major investment firms.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Rogan (07:18): "What the fuck were you doing?"
• Bert Kreischer (09:21): "It's corruption too."

5. Elon Musk and Technological Advancements

Discussion Highlights: Elon Musk is a recurring subject, with Joe defending Musk's contributions against negative media narratives. They discuss Musk's role in space travel, satellite internet through Starlink, and his reputation as a technological innovator.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Rogan (08:57): "He's revolutionizing space travel, revolutionizing satellite Internet capabilities and the availability all over the world."

6. UFOs, Remote Viewing, and Government Secrecy

Discussion Highlights: A significant portion of the conversation explores UFO phenomena, remote viewing, and the government's involvement in these areas. They reference documentaries like "The Enhanced Games" and discuss the potential existence of non-human intelligence and advanced propulsion systems.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Rogan (15:44): "It's a psyop, bro. It's all a bunch of psyops."
• Bert Kreischer (16:27): "It's on the set of a famous talk show that's now not on anymore."

7. Vaccines, Cancer, and Public Health Concerns

Discussion Highlights: Joe and Bert engage in a critical analysis of vaccines, particularly the COVID-19 vaccines. They argue against mainstream narratives, citing studies that suggest vaccines may have severe side effects, including increased mortality rates. The conversation also touches on alternative cancer treatments and the suppression of dietary interventions.

Notable Quotes:

• Bert Kreischer (45:59): "Mel Gibson out here talking about Fenben and Ivermectin."
• Joe Rogan (57:33): "A study that showed that 96% of all the stories that mainstream media prints about Elon are negative."

8. Sports and Doping Scandals

Discussion Highlights: The conversation transitions to the sports world, where they discuss doping scandals, particularly in the Olympics and UFC. They highlight the disparities between different regions' athletes and criticize the effectiveness of anti-doping measures.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Rogan (93:02): "He wrestled different than everybody. Everybody was just trying to take you down. He was trying to pick you up and slam you repeatedly into the earth."
• Bert Kreischer (119:09): "There's been a few of those guys though, some other ways of doing it."

9. Political Dynamics and Media Influence

Discussion Highlights: Joe and Bert critique the polarized political landscape, emphasizing the role of media in shaping public perception. They discuss the influence of political figures, the failings of certain administrations, and the challenges of bipartisan support for meaningful reforms.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Rogan (125:03): "Yeah. If they didn't say that and then had a primary... Bobby would have a chance."
• Bert Kreischer (130:25): "How come we haven't studied the Amish? Like there's been a few studies."

10. Education, Healthcare, and Social Systems

Discussion Highlights: The episode concludes with a discussion on the state of education and healthcare systems, particularly in the United States. They lament the decline in educational rankings and criticize socialized medicine, advocating for meritocracy and innovation-driven healthcare solutions.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Rogan (131:57): "They did it with Microsoft, didn't they?"
• Bert Kreischer (140:33): "It's a modified social credit."

Conclusion

Episode #2325 of The Joe Rogan Experience presents a fervent and passionate dialogue between Joe Rogan and Bert Kreischer, covering a spectrum of contentious and provocative topics. From health and technology to politics and societal structures, the conversation underscores a deep skepticism of mainstream narratives and institutions. While the transcript does not feature Aaron Rodgers, the episode offers insight into Joe Rogan's perspectives on various issues shaping contemporary discourse.

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this summary reflect the content of the provided transcript and do not endorse or validate the accuracy of the claims discussed within the podcast.

Transcript

[Joe Rogan]

Joe Rogan Podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train my day. Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Would you start with Chew Kodiak? Oh, okay. Oh, that's rough. Yeah, That's a lot. So you could.

[Bert Kreischer]

But these are much better now.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, these are good. These Lucy's are good. I like these, too. These are athletic nicotines. These are threes. These are like. They don't fuck you up. They're mild.

[Bert Kreischer]

I wonder, though. Do you wonder at all? There's a lot of these studies coming out now about how good nicotine is for you.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Where'd that come from?

[Bert Kreischer]

I don't know.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, all these nicotine pouches are selling.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like crazy, like we're in the 1950s. You got it.

[Joe Rogan]

These are good. Smoking when you're. When you're pregnant.

[Bert Kreischer]

Pregnant women, you know, if you're sick.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I think there's real benefit to nicotine because that's been proven for a long time. It's just always been the delivery method that's the problem.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. The Kodiaks and the other ones. There's a lot of other stuff in there. It's not great for you, I'm sure.

[Joe Rogan]

What is the one that has, like, actual glass in it?

[Bert Kreischer]

Probably Kodiak or Grizzly, one of those two. Apologies to those companies.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Apologies to any company that we talk about. People buy it anyway. They're like, oh, good. Glass in it. Good. Makes it better.

[Bert Kreischer]

Cuts your lip, gets it in there quick.

[Joe Rogan]

I think that's the idea. There's something abrasive in one of them that. That, like, it allows the nicotine to get into your bloodstream.

[Bert Kreischer]

You sure? Just one of them. I feel like it's the few of them.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Find anything out about that? Yeah, that's that.

[Bert Kreischer]

But these are hot right now.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

I mean, not in California, because you can't get anything that is nothing flavored.

[Joe Rogan]

What a shithole.

[Bert Kreischer]

God, I'm so glad I left that fucking place.

[Joe Rogan]

Is there fiberglass in tobacco? Fiberglass.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's a complete mist.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay. No evidence for this, although it gets repeated by many. Anti. St. What's st?

[Bert Kreischer]

Smokeless tobacco.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay. We've heard the claim that fiberglass creates little cuts, allow absorption. Oh, so it's just. Well, that's good. That's good to know. That would be horrible.

[Bert Kreischer]

The Internet says it must be true.

[Joe Rogan]

It must be.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Chat GPT is never wrong. We were talking about this lady that got arrested and she was bringing in frog embryos and they're trying to deport her To Russia illegally bringing in frog. She's a researcher. Research, I guess.

[Jamie Vernon]

This is a different article than the one you sent me. This is the one from April I found that still talks about her arrest and everything.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay, so she is also working on some cancer detection technology.

[Jamie Vernon]

This article says that no one can fully unlock the data's potential except her.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, interesting. And that's why they want to lock her up. Well, it can't just be frogs. She's working for Harvard, and she's got frog embryos that are illegally being brought back to the United States.

[Jamie Vernon]

Something I was reading said this generally is a fine, sometimes maybe a couple months of detention, but she's also asking to not be deported back to Russia. She wants to go to France. And that's part of the issue, too.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it might be a thing where Putin's like, oh, she's an anti.

[Bert Kreischer]

She protested against the war in Ukraine.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay. You.

[Jamie Vernon]

There's a lot going on.

[Joe Rogan]

You have woman that we are very interested in, and we put frogs in her backpack. You will find her with these frogs, and then you will send her back to us. We have to talk to her. And they probably don't want to talk to her unless she. She. If she's been locked up since February for frogs?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, I think so.

[Bert Kreischer]

Wait.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. You murder somebody, they let you right back out. Yeah. Pull a knife on a cop, they let you right back out.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think I'm gonna get out.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Where you at now?

[Bert Kreischer]

I'm still there.

[Joe Rogan]

What part?

[Bert Kreischer]

I'm in Malibu.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, get the. Out of there.

[Bert Kreischer]

But Malibu is.

[Joe Rogan]

It's nice.

[Bert Kreischer]

We're not in the.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but it's like having a beautiful house in the ghetto. It's like. Yeah, it's nice where you're at. It's nice. Beautiful ocean.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's where the best place to go.

[Joe Rogan]

Pollutants. Now, I'm biased, I think right here. I like Texas. This is the last stand. This is the fucking. This is the Alamo.

[Bert Kreischer]

It is pretty impressive.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Just how they've been able to sustain and, you know what happened with COVID Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

There's been a few states that held the line during COVID and it just shows you the importance of good government or just government that allows people to just be free and operate the way they'd like to.

[Bert Kreischer]

I know there's a lot of Texans who wanted to keep the California out of Texas.

[Joe Rogan]

If you moved here, that's a good idea, because a lot of these are coming here with some of the same ideas they left with. Well, we got to get away from these people. But why is everyone here voting red? You shouldn't be voting red, you need to be voting blue. There's like cult members, there's like Democrat cult members, just reasonable people.

[Bert Kreischer]

Blue, no matter, no matter who. But that's good.

[Joe Rogan]

It's so goofy, you know, Red till I'm dead. All that shit's goofy.

[Bert Kreischer]

Look at the beautiful cities that we used to have in California.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh my God, I just happened to them. I used to love la. I used to love it. Every time I went back there, I'd be like, I'm back. When I travel on the road, I'm like, thank God I'm back in la. It's always sunny, people are cool, it's easy going. And then Covid, just, just a big reality smack of how important government is.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know, I've seen recently, it makes me laugh is people driving Teslas, but they've either removed the emblem on the back or they have a sticker that says like an anti musk Tesla. Before Elon went crazy, I'd say 70% of them wearing a mask, driving still.

[Joe Rogan]

But I think most of them are just scared their car is going to get up if they leave it somewhere.

[Bert Kreischer]

No, I think so too.

[Joe Rogan]

I think about that when I park my Tesla. I think about that even in Texas.

[Bert Kreischer]

I feel like it's happening on California.

[Joe Rogan]

There's a lot of kooky liberals out here. Yeah, I get side eye from people.

[Bert Kreischer]

They love, they love the, the Tesla.

[Joe Rogan]

Before, they used to love it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Kind of like the view in Trump.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's also, there's a lot of, you know, it's the USAID stuff, really. It's, it's hard to say. I had Amanda Knox on here yesterday and she was talking about, oh, did you? This program that was, that, you know, was an Innocence program where you. They're trying to release wrongly accused people and they, that it, it got defunded. And I said, well, was there anything inappropriate about what they were doing? Like, because there's a, the unfortunate reality of having conversations with Elon about this, both publicly and privately. Like there's a lot of stuff that it looks good on the outside. And then you find out you have this amazing slush fund. You have billions of dollars that's being allocated towards this one particular organization. People are extracting enormous salaries and then very little of it is actually going. Yeah, so this is a part of the problem with these things like, oh, we lost funding. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's bad. You definitely want to have Funding to help innocent people get out of jail.

[Bert Kreischer]

What the fuck were you doing?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, where's all the money going? I don't know, you know, but I know a lot of them. I know that they spent $251 million on transgender animal studies. Like, like there's, there's some wild money that's being thrown around. They spent $2 million giving cocaine to dogs. Super important to find out.

[Bert Kreischer]

I, I really wanted to see the episodes of the 20 million they spent on the. The Sesame street in the.

[Joe Rogan]

In Iraq.

[Bert Kreischer]

Was Oscar still a villain or was it Big Bird?

[Joe Rogan]

Let's count the gays as we throw them off the ro. I mean, $21 million. Did you.

[Bert Kreischer]

But how is the fucking common sense? Like when people hear that. Yeah, just because it's fucking ELON and some 20 year olds, they can't go, oh, yeah, I'm glad you did that. That's a waste of my money.

[Joe Rogan]

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[Bert Kreischer]

And the shit he does when there's natural disasters with the Starlink.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh yeah, he's revolutionizing space travel, revolutionizing satellite Internet capabilities and the availability all over the world. It's crazy. It's really crazy.

[Bert Kreischer]

And saving billions of dollars of your tax money from going to fucking fun. Stupid ass programs.

[Joe Rogan]

It's not just programs. Some of it is like you don't even know where it went.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's corruption too.

[Joe Rogan]

He said that some of the money, that there was billions of dollars that was written out with no receipts at all. He said if this was a private company, or, excuse me, a public company, they would be delisted and all the executives be thrown in prison. But in the government, it's just like standard practice.

[Bert Kreischer]

How come nobody has gone to prison? That's one of my main questions for Trump and the administration.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a good question.

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, what's going on?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, the administration's only 100 days old, right? Or 130 or whatever the fuck it is. It's like, I think it takes a while to even find out what the fuck happened. I don't know. You know, I've had conversations with people about it, and it's like, Jesus, like, just trying to get the documents. Like when they're trying to get the Epstein files, like they're the state of New York. One of the district attorneys was hiding. They were hiding documents that have forced him to give documents. I think there's so many fucking powerful people that are on those lists. There's so many powerful people that went and partied. Air quotes. Air quotes. Partied. And how many of them went to the Diddy parties? Have you been paying attention to the trial?

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Trials. Wild. Wild.

[Bert Kreischer]

Why don't they. They air it the same way they aired the, you know, the coverage that, you know, Johnny. Johnny Depp got.

[Joe Rogan]

I know. Why don't they. I don't know. They should. The ratings would be amazing.

[Bert Kreischer]

Unreal. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, what are you doing? Why wouldn't you air that?

[Bert Kreischer]

What's going to happen, though?

[Joe Rogan]

You think, well, Diddy's going to be in jail for the rest of his life. I think he's probably going to get.

[Bert Kreischer]

Things in the same, though.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know. I don't even think it matters. I mean, it's. A lot of it is.

[Bert Kreischer]

But then it's just another Epstein. There's murder, Ghislaine Maxwell, where there's somebody indicted and nobody else indicted for trafficking kids to.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. To no one. Right. That's the crazy thing about Ghislaine. Right. She's in prison for sex trafficking. To who?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Sure. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

But I mean, there's a lot of people that want some. Some heads to roll.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, the Diddy thing is just started, so we'll see because apparently there's tremendous amount of video that they have. But we've also heard that about the Epstein.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. What are they going to do? How much is it going to get out?

[Joe Rogan]

James o' Keefe just released video of Epstein's library. Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

I didn't see that. Yeah, I know he's been holding on to something and there's been fear about him getting taken out and. Yeah, but Alex has some sort of kill switch or something. I don't know.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but then he was like, DJing then.

[Bert Kreischer]

He was. Yeah, I know.

[Joe Rogan]

Like a lot of his theatrics. It's like, so o' Keefe is. So his.

[Bert Kreischer]

His. I mean, he was. His undercover videos were amazing.

[Joe Rogan]

Incredible.

[Bert Kreischer]

And. And then he got ousted at the project Veritas. Right? And then when.

[Joe Rogan]

I wonder what happened there. Like, I'd like to know what the story there is, because there's no official story of why he got ousted.

[Bert Kreischer]

Has he not? He hasn't gone anywhere. He's under some gag order maybe.

[Joe Rogan]

I would imagine there's some sort of an NDA or something. Otherwise, why the guy who releases everything? Why wouldn't he release that if he can, you know?

[Bert Kreischer]

But his videos are mostly like gay men meeting up. The one guy is kind of big dick and you know. Oh, I can tell you this, you know.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

And has no idea. Oh, by the way, everything you just said is.

[Joe Rogan]

It's always chatty gay guys. Here he goes in Okeefe's Twitter. Inside Epstein's library, o' Keefe Reese releases never before seen footage with bizarre statues and cryptic messages left by Epstein from inside Epstein's island library, by the way. Like, what does that mean? Like, if you look in this room, like bizarre statues.

[Bert Kreischer]

Power, Strange, deception.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, wow. Like he's got a. A diagram. Music, all the things he's trying to do.

[Bert Kreischer]

What is it?

[Joe Rogan]

What is all that? Power deception. Plants. Does that say plants? Wonder what that means. Like plants. Like planting people inside organizations. Is that what that means?

[Bert Kreischer]

What's in the bottom here? Does it say something in France? Drunk brain, Time day Drink.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know. Dank brain. Is that what that says?

[Bert Kreischer]

Intellectual, political, something.

[Joe Rogan]

Music. And what is the other one next to music B? What is that?

[Jamie Vernon]

I'm gonna see if anybody has deciphered this.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, when he puts this big o' Keefe over it, it kind of obscures the. The letters.

[Bert Kreischer]

Okay, what else is weird in this, though? Well, what are we even looking at?

[Joe Rogan]

Let's look. Let's play it. He's got some weird statues. I got a lot of weird statues. You know. What does that mean? Nice place. You know, we were talking about buying the island at one point in time.

[Bert Kreischer]

I would have got in. I was talking to. Talking to Jamie. He needs some investors.

[Joe Rogan]

You know the fucking headlines. Aaron Rodgers and Joe Rogan by the Island. We were talking about as is, though.

[Bert Kreischer]

As is.

[Joe Rogan]

As is 100%. We were talking about putting up a podcast studio in. In the fucking. In. In the big temple. Oh, God, the temple. That's the Israeli flag.

[Jamie Vernon]

Mirror in face.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, the temple, that's the colors of the Israeli flag. You know about that. Right?

[Bert Kreischer]

I didn't know that. No.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah, it's the. Oh, here it goes. O' Keefe is showing power.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, they're trying to show that he. That's his handwriting, I guess.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay, boys. Boys.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, I don't. Maybe he says what it says.

[Joe Rogan]

Were there there Dank Brain? Among others. All right.

[Jamie Vernon]

I guess you're right.

[Bert Kreischer]

Dank bank brain.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know.

[Bert Kreischer]

Okay, Mirror in face, dank brain.

[Joe Rogan]

Was. Does dank brain means you're high? As it must. Right. That means they gave you a super edible. They gave you one of them Joey Diaz edibles.

[Jamie Vernon]

Maybe it's a project name, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

Right. That's probably Project Dank. Right, right, right. That's probably it. What is that other one? Mirror and face. Was that. Is that what it says? Yep.

[Jamie Vernon]

A truth. Something else.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Shitty handwriting for an evil villain. Yeah. Yeah. Very weird stuff. Let me show them one more.

[Jamie Vernon]

Someone wrote it out in a little more.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay. Plants. Truth, Myth, Reality, Power. Deception. What do you mean by plants? Appears, Music. Brain. Rhythm. Mimic. Time delay. Deception. Dark. It says dark brain. I thought that was an N. I don't think that guy's correct.

[Jamie Vernon]

It could be dank Brain.

[Joe Rogan]

Go look at that other image, though.

[Bert Kreischer]

I like dank brain better.

[Joe Rogan]

It looks like an end to me. Yeah, that looks like N. That doesn't look like dark. That looks like dank brain. That's an N. So I'm already skeptical. Yeah, it's a psyop, bro. It's all a bunch of psyops. Show them the image of the temple that was on the island. That was going to be JRE podcast studio number two.

[Bert Kreischer]

Nice. We could have done this here.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I was thinking about, but I was like, you know what? That's a good way to die. They're not gonna let me buy that place. Look at it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, well, you know where that is too, right? The similar image to that. Right? No, I know Jamie does.

[Joe Rogan]

What is it?

[Bert Kreischer]

It's on the set of a famous talk show that's now not on anymore.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, Ellen. Was that Ellen?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Really?

[Bert Kreischer]

Just look at that. The temple. And then look at the.

[Joe Rogan]

Let me see Ellen's background. What? Oh, similar. That looks like a building, though. Like.

[Bert Kreischer]

Sure.

[Joe Rogan]

Is that a building in la? That might be a building in la. Right, But. But I mean, it's supposed to be a background of.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, that's strange to use the same.

[Joe Rogan]

It is, but it's, you know, I mean, it's. Whatever. I'm not that impressed with that. That could just be coincidental there's a lot of people.

[Bert Kreischer]

Ask Alex about that.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, well, he'll get. Well, it's a long standing tradition to put Israeli flags secretly and everything, so.

[Bert Kreischer]

Fucking did you see that?

[Joe Rogan]

They did this thing recently where they uncovered the fact that Israel had kiosks in malls. And Israeli intelligence was. They were gathering intelligence, but with these drone kiosks that they were selling in malls. Like these little propeller drones. Let me see if I can find it. I know I sent it to some friends. Did you find it, Jimmy? Right away, yeah. Charged the US Running illegal mall kiosk network. How weird is this? Accused of arranging for Israelis to arrive in the country with tourist visas for the purpose of illicit employment in sales. And they were gathering information. The whole thing was gathering information. Israeli's been charged U. S. Visa fraud. Allegedly running an illegal employment scheme in the country which helped other Israelis obtain entry permits under false pretenses for the purpose of illegal employment. You know, I was chatting back and forth with Ari. I sent. I sent this to him.

[Bert Kreischer]

What does it say?

[Joe Rogan]

He's like, imagine being pwned, you know? Pwn. By a country that has like 7 million people in it. It's like they've been. They've been running things for so long, it's kind of amazing.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's impressive.

[Joe Rogan]

They're very impressive. I mean they. They develop Pegasus, the ability. The whole reason why every time I text, I assume the government is reading everything I write. Because they can. They can. They can get into your signal. Like all these encrypted apps that people think that they're like you're going to buy drugs and fucking sell guns and shit. No, no, no, no, no.

[Jamie Vernon]

Was this part of the story through.

[Joe Rogan]

What is this? Mossad uses mall kiosks in the US as front companies while on intelligence operations. Yeah, this is it. Attorney Jessica all aber found dead in her home after uncovering Israelis illegally entered the US to work at mall kiosk. She found dead in her home. Google that. Jesus.

[Bert Kreischer]

Probably suicide.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Shot herself in the head twice.

[Bert Kreischer]

What happens over there, you think?

[Joe Rogan]

Whoo.

[Jamie Vernon]

Epilepsy, though.

[Joe Rogan]

Epilepsy. Died in her sleep. Okay.

[Bert Kreischer]

She was the young one. She was like 43.

[Joe Rogan]

Could be coincidence.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, I read about this.

[Joe Rogan]

Maybe she got that third booster. We're expecting more information for. When was this? What time was this? What? When did this happen? 20 March. Similar recently. Expect more information for the medical examiner.

[Bert Kreischer]

Speaking of boosters, why didn't Bobby just come out and taking that off the old schedule. Maybe start with kids.

[Joe Rogan]

They did start with kids. It's removed now.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is it? Since when?

[Joe Rogan]

Real recently, like within the last day or two. They pulled it from the recommendations of the. You know, the requirements, the kids.

[Bert Kreischer]

It was.

[Joe Rogan]

Giving it to kids is insane. It's fucking insane. Covid's not a danger to kids. It's super dangerous for kids. There's a lot of evidence for that. Now. There's the fact that they've been able to obscure all the vaccine deaths. I know there was. Where was it in Florida where they were pointing. They're making this accusation that as many as 470,000 people died from the vaccine. Well, see if you can find that.

[Bert Kreischer]

What is it? The surgeon general down in Florida has been. Yes, it's been pretty rock solid.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he's rock solid. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Black dude. He was on TV a bunch, huh? Yeah, I liked him a lot. Every time he spoke, it was like. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

This is like. It's just. It's just money, man. It's literal sacrifice of human lives for money.

[Bert Kreischer]

But same thing. Like, when is any of those people gonna be held accountable?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know.

[Bert Kreischer]

Never. Well, I would look at everything that's happened in the last 20 years. You know, financial crisis happens. You know, insider trading the market on purpose. No, no. Heads roll. In fact, they actually get put into Obama's cabinet. Many of them.

[Joe Rogan]

That great document, the 2008. Do you think they did that on purpose? They tanked the market on purpose? Or you think it was just what they did was ultimately going to tank the market?

[Bert Kreischer]

I think there's a lot of senses.

[Joe Rogan]

Little coincidences.

[Bert Kreischer]

Coincidence. But I'm just saying no one ever gets held accountable. No one gets held accountable. What's going on with COVID No one's gonna be Gonna be held accountable. Is Dr. Fauci going to be held accountable for lying about gain of function research?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he could be held accountable for perjury. I believe. I. I don't believe they can get him for the gain of function research. I don't think they can.

[Bert Kreischer]

But he lied on the stand when Rand Paul was in her.

[Joe Rogan]

I think they get him for that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Because you can. I don't know. But a blanket pardon that goes back to when gain of function was illegal during the Obama administration is a little suspicious.

[Bert Kreischer]

It was really when they moved it out of North Carolina.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

To Wuhan.

[Joe Rogan]

Little suspicious.

[Bert Kreischer]

Nice timing there. Why 2014, I wonder.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, well, that was when. I mean, I think during the Obama administration. Obama wisely was like, what the fuck are you guys doing like, you don't. What's the benefit of that? If you. You're creating more contagious diseases and you don't have cures like, what the are you doing? It's. You know, Bobby thinks it's all weapons, thinks it's biological weapons, which completely makes sense.

[Bert Kreischer]

You see what Nicole Shanahan said recently about Bobby?

[Joe Rogan]

No.

[Bert Kreischer]

She said she doesn't. She's a little confused at what kind of. Some of the stuff he's been saying and doing lately and maybe he's got somebody who's controlling him.

[Joe Rogan]

Wasn't there that one guy that said that him and Bobby, like, Bobby has to check with him on everything that happens?

[Bert Kreischer]

What guy?

[Joe Rogan]

There's too many of these people. I know. I save these. I save everything. I have these bookmarks that are just completely ridiculous and if somebody finds me and I'm dead, they're going to be like, what was wrong with him? You're a little obsessed.

[Bert Kreischer]

Why are you looking for this? You Jamie, I'm sure you've probably seen some of this. Do you when you're on Instagram, sometimes you'll come across videos and the voice you recognize right away, but you know that person didn't say it. Have you seen these? Your voice is on it a bunch. I first got. Got alerted to it when John Reeves, our buddy John from Alaska. I, I heard his voice on some like UFO video.

[Joe Rogan]

Yep.

[Bert Kreischer]

I was like, John, what the. Did you.

[Joe Rogan]

He's like, no, no, he's not doing any of it.

[Bert Kreischer]

I've heard my voice on stuff too, but I heard. I hear your voices. Like, oh yeah. Voice news. How the they do this stuff?

[Joe Rogan]

It's real and it's dangerous too. It's real easy now. It's. It's crazy. It's what I see a lot of is me selling stuff that I'm not really selling. There's a lot of that. There's a lot of that. A lot of me selling that I'm.

[Bert Kreischer]

Not really selling, you know, at the pedaling new products.

[Joe Rogan]

No, it's not just. It's like businesses and that I'm not really interested in.

[Bert Kreischer]

Was this, was this the pad that Zahi was using right here? This one?

[Joe Rogan]

Maybe. That might have been the worst podcast I've ever done, but maybe a good one too. Just to see. Okay, this is the guy. This is this closed minded minded fellow that's been in charge of gatekeeping all.

[Bert Kreischer]

The knowledge about and still standing on the same ideas even after this lidar comes out.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, the tomography Whatever it is. Yeah, that stuff's fascinating because I've been. Even after that podcast, I've been watching more videos for those Italian scientists describing it. They've used it to. This is one of the things that I brought up. One of the temples that they scanned with, this was very accurate. And he's like, but this was only 50ft down. Okay, okay. Right. But it works, like, 50ft down. You get an accurate representation of what's inside there, which. And he was the one. Zahi supposedly, you know, discovered it, but he's discovered everything, basically.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So how do you.

[Bert Kreischer]

Genius.

[Joe Rogan]

He's the best.

[Bert Kreischer]

So the good thing is that Graham can go back to Egypt now.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

So they patched up something.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Well, that was one of the reasons why Zahi came on, because Graham talked to Zion's like, zahi wants to do this. We're friends now. I was like, bring him in. Let's go. Bring him in. I'll talk to him. I made.

[Bert Kreischer]

So I thought it would probably invite you to Egypt. And what'd you say?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, if I'm going, I'm going with Graham.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, I am. I.

[Joe Rogan]

Or Jim.

[Bert Kreischer]

I told Graham I wanted him to take me a few years ago. He said, I can't go. They'll kill me. So next thing you know, I see Graham's taking people to Egypt. I said, what the.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, that's nice. It's nice that they patched it up.

[Bert Kreischer]

I went back. I went there last. Last July.

[Joe Rogan]

Did you.

[Bert Kreischer]

Last. Sorry, June.

[Joe Rogan]

How was it?

[Bert Kreischer]

Incredible. Yeah, it was incredible.

[Joe Rogan]

Did you walk away thinking immediately, there's.

[Bert Kreischer]

A lot we don't know 100% and what they tell you is complete bullshit?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I have a friend who went there, and the archaeologist that showed him. It said, this is complete bullshit. Like, the narrative is complete bullshit. Yeah. He said the scale of it. He said the scale of it and the technology construction is beyond our current understanding of how to do this?

[Bert Kreischer]

And it's not just the pyramids in the Sphinx. The other temples are magnificent.

[Joe Rogan]

Not only that, there's probably a bunch of shit under the ground.

[Bert Kreischer]

I know. That's what I wanted to go see. But the cool thing was the first temple I went in was what I'd seen on ancient aliens, where at the very top of the temple, you have one of the most famous hieroglyphs, which has a spaceship, a helicopter, and a submarine up there, as clear as you can possibly imagine.

[Joe Rogan]

Show that.

[Bert Kreischer]

What the fuck is that? How in the. What is that? Explain that, please, because that looks like A spaceship that looks like a submarine and that 100% looks like a helicopter.

[Joe Rogan]

So weird. The Egypt is the weirdest place on Earth.

[Bert Kreischer]

It really is, because that's why it needs to be.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

What the hell is underneath it?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I think that one, that one right there. I mean, come.

[Bert Kreischer]

I mean, what are we talking about?

[Joe Rogan]

Come on. That's so crazy.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's a spaceship or a fighter jet.

[Joe Rogan]

Some kind of a.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's a submarine.

[Joe Rogan]

It looks like a yacht. Looks like one of them old dark yachts that they keep getting, but that's pounded.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's a helicopter.

[Joe Rogan]

It looks like a helicopter to me. It looks just like a helicopter. If it's not a helicopter. What a goddamn coincidence.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And you know, there's a bunch of weird stuff there, a bunch of weird images just. And how about that one plane that they found that was inside. They found like a wooden plane that was inside one of the chambers.

[Bert Kreischer]

Totally normal. They just buried there with the. Yeah, that was.

[Joe Rogan]

The other thing that Zahi was unwilling to entertain was this king's list, this Zep Tacky Kings list that goes back 30, 000 plus years.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

They all, they all want to pretend that's a myth, that all the other hieroglyphs are legitimately documenting the history of the region. But when it gets that one past the narrative, these 30,000-year-old kings, that place has probably been there for a long time.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. Probably hundreds of thousands of years, which is so crazy. And it's probably built on other stuff.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the other thing about the base of the pyramids is, like, you have to realize, like, there's a base there. Before they put the pyramids up, they put this insane base. And if what they're saying is accurate with these readings, that there's a structure that goes under the ground two kilometers. Like.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, what is that?

[Joe Rogan]

If they can find that, then you have to throw everything out the window.

[Bert Kreischer]

But aren't you with me? Like, why are we not interested in that? Well, we are, but why are we. Why is modern archaeology not going, yeah, let's fucking figure this shit out?

[Joe Rogan]

Because modern archeology forever has been saying that we have the answers, that we have the timeline, we know when Khufu built this, we know when Khafre built this, we know who did this, and they're not correct. It's just. It's not accurate. It's too weird. There's no way you have all the information. Also, where'd everybody go? Like, there's people Living there. But it's clearly not the same civilization. So what happened to this insane civilization if there wasn't a collapse of society at an immense level? If there wasn't some sort of a civilization. Civilization destroying event.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Then where did it. Yeah, yeah. What happened?

[Bert Kreischer]

How about this? This idea. We got a new Pope. He's from the States, From Chicago. Yeah, yeah. Open up the library of the Vatican.

[Joe Rogan]

Good luck. Good luck doing that. Have you been? They've been. That's wild, right? You're like, what did you guys do? Where'd you get all this shit?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

When you're walking through it, you're like, what?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. What?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

The weird tapestries where you stand on one side looks like this and the.

[Joe Rogan]

Other side looks like that insane art. Like the craziest. But it was. It's almost like a crazy person's house where they have so much art. Almost like the studio. We have so much art. It's stacked up everywhere.

[Bert Kreischer]

Except it's worth it.

[Joe Rogan]

Billions of dollars.

[Bert Kreischer]

I was LAUGHING Because. Didn't J.D. vance get in trouble for pictures in the Sistine Chapel or something? Or. What's is it? Sistine Chapel? And I. And I think he did. And you know, you're not supposed to any pictures. And I remember going in there and they told you, like, put your phone away. And I'm literally in there trying to be quiet and everything. And everybody around me is loud. They got their camera out to take her photos.

[Joe Rogan]

And photo of JD Vance inside Sistine Chapel sparks backlash.

[Bert Kreischer]

Everybody around me when I was there was taking pictures.

[Joe Rogan]

It is forbidden to take photographs or films of any type of. With any type of electronic equipment inside the Sistine Chapel. But everybody's doing that. I have photos.

[Bert Kreischer]

It wasn't in 2015.

[Joe Rogan]

It wasn't when I went either.

[Bert Kreischer]

2015.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I went in, I think, 2018 or 2019, and we took a bunch of photos. The photo was taken by an official White House photographer. And there's precedent for political figures being photographed inside.

[Bert Kreischer]

The whole thing is weird. Vatican. Vatican City. Who guards the Vatican? Why is it the Swiss Guard? You know why?

[Joe Rogan]

It's a country.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's a country.

[Joe Rogan]

You can't. Nobody gets extradited from that when they're accused of crimes against humanity. Like.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like Ratziger, who's Ratzinger?

[Joe Rogan]

He was the Pope that had to step down because he was one of the guys that was moving people.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, yeah. From like the spotlight.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he was one of those guys that was. When they would catch someone molesting kids, he'd move them to another place where they. One guy molested 100 deaf kids. There's a whole documentary about it. He just looked creepy.

[Bert Kreischer]

He looks super creepy.

[Joe Rogan]

But there's also like. Of. Of. One of the buildings that the Vatican owns is. There's a. A gay nightclub in the building. Yeah. Like some gay sex club. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

No way.

[Joe Rogan]

I know. It's weird. They probably didn't know.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Probably thought it was a prayer center. They're feeding hungry people or something. Feeding some hungry butts. Yeah. It's just crazy how these elite people in power before the Internet, they were just doing stuff. They had complete control of the media and they were just doing whatever they wanted to do and everything was in secret. And they had these little, you know, meetings, like Skull and bone types meetings. So they all wear cloaks and. And go to Bohemian Grove and all that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is that not happening no more?

[Joe Rogan]

I think Bohemian Grove is very toned down now. I think they use it now for meetings and stuff.

[Bert Kreischer]

Thanks, Alex.

[Joe Rogan]

People get together. Yeah. Alex and John Ronson it up for everybody, but I know a bunch of people have been. Kid Rock went. He told me. He went.

[Bert Kreischer]

There's a feeder group to it.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

There's a feeder group to the main group. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What does that mean?

[Bert Kreischer]

It means they invite entertainers and different people.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh. So they do nice things.

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, then they figure out who they can hand select for the. For the main group.

[Joe Rogan]

I got invited.

[Bert Kreischer]

I did too.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm not gonna go. No fucking way. No way. I remember what Nixon said about it back in the day. The fucking thing I've ever seen.

[Bert Kreischer]

I've ever seen.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Like these guys all got together when they know no one's around.

[Bert Kreischer]

Did we talk last time about the Nixon. What's the Jackie Gleason story?

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. That's a wild story.

[Joe Rogan]

It's my favorite of all the UFO stories. That's my favorite because it's plausible.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, Nixon and Jackie were buddies. You know, if you're buddies with a guy and he likes to drink and the two of you are playing golf and drinking, he's like, you want to see some shit?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

That's what I would do if I was the President.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's why Jackie Gleason bet him. All right, you win. You know, fund your campaign. I win, you show me some.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, right. Play around the golf.

[Bert Kreischer]

I want to see Area 51.

[Joe Rogan]

If they brought you, would you. Would you open your mouth? They said, aaron, we're gonna take you, but you gotta. You gotta just keep this on a.

[Bert Kreischer]

DL I think so.

[Joe Rogan]

I think so too.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. I want to see some.

[Joe Rogan]

Here's the thing.

[Bert Kreischer]

The remote viewing stuff in Area 51 is pretty wild though. People have talked about. And you had a person talking about remote viewing recently. But how it's guarded by. I mean CIA has been doing it forever. Finally some of that's declassified but they have the remote viewing like guards who guard secret places like that, especially Area 51. It's pretty wild.

[Joe Rogan]

They're remote viewing while they're guards.

[Bert Kreischer]

They have guards who. Whose role is. You're a remote viewing guard.

[Joe Rogan]

Whoa.

[Bert Kreischer]

So their duty is they're. They go into their astral bodies and guard the facility.

[Joe Rogan]

What does that entail? Like what are they guarding it from?

[Bert Kreischer]

From other astral viewers who try and get in there.

[Joe Rogan]

What like you block them?

[Bert Kreischer]

There's been a lot of people online have talked about this.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, there's a lot of people online talk about a lot of things though. Unfortunately I'm open minded with this remote viewing stuff because the how put off stuff was fascinating when he was describing it like how accurate it had been when they. There was that crashed jet from Russia that they were trying to recover and they found it within a couple mile radius. They were able to recover it before Russia was. It's pretty wild.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like if that's a real ability that's that people have.

[Bert Kreischer]

You think it's.

[Joe Rogan]

No, no, I don't think it's. I think they spent too much money on it and they. They researched it for too long for it to be total and how put off was very compelling. I've never seen it in action though. So I've, you know, remain.

[Bert Kreischer]

You never seen what somebody.

[Joe Rogan]

Remote view. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean you gotta practice. I would like to know. I mean imagine if someone could show you how to do it and you could do it.

[Bert Kreischer]

That'd be a great. I'd love to.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Where would you go with it?

[Bert Kreischer]

Area 51.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. 100.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. If you could time remote view. I'd go right into when Bob Lazar was working there. Like show me.

[Bert Kreischer]

I got Roswell 1947.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh yeah, that's a big one. Yeah, there's a lot of those, man.

[Bert Kreischer]

We were talking off. Off camera about the. About that element.

[Joe Rogan]

115.

[Bert Kreischer]

115. Yeah. When do you. How long do you think it is? Because one thing I think about is like if you think, you know our parents age, right. Like what they live through technological and like all the advances since 50s, 60s and stuff to now.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Fast forward another 30, 40 years for us. Like at what point does some of this technology really come out? The anti gravity stuff, the disclosure of the UFOs, the.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a good question. What how put off said was that during the Bush administration they put together a panel of scientists and experts and they gave them a task. The task was compile a list of things that would be disrupted by disclosure. They said if we disclose that we have recovered crashed vehicles of non human intelligence and biological remains, what would be the implications? And so they had a list on of pros things that would be disrupted and then things that would we would benefit from. And they put a numerical value to each one of them. And it was overwhelming by every one of them that it would be overall negative. And so they decided not to disclose.

[Bert Kreischer]

What was on the con side beside religion, because I know religion is a big part of it.

[Joe Rogan]

Religion was a big part of it government. Why would anybody believe that we have control over anything if there are some super intelligent beings from some unknown realm, whether it's another planet or another dimension, that have technology far beyond our comprehension. And then there's the religious aspect, which gets really weird that Lazar talked about where there's this immense folder that he encountered that has to do with religion. Y. That has to do with how aliens created these religions in order to protect what they say human beings are here for that we're containers. So like of. Of what? And he said, I don't know of just. They referred to us as containers.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And the religion was designed to sort of keep the peace or to keep some sort of a moral structure.

[Bert Kreischer]

And the idea is if we had this disclosure and this information that the moral structure, the moral fabric of society.

[Joe Rogan]

Would disintegrate, it would crumble because we wouldn't be able to control people at all if we all knew that there was something beyond our comprehension that's here all the time, that can hide in plain sight, that lives in the ocean. They have bases in the ocean. They can mask their appearance and fly at insane rates of speed and just appear in places. And they essentially have complete control over everything that goes on on earth that would, you know, we would lose all of our faith in any sort of governmental institution because these are just fools. Well, they think it's bad and they're, you know, to have this power and all sudden it just gets taken away voluntarily by you. Like if they could go back in time and, and stop the Internet, don't you think they would? Yeah, I don't think they had any idea what the Internet was going to be when they released it. They're probably like what could be the harm of letting people get on aol? Yeah, you've got mail.

[Bert Kreischer]

They're going to be tired from the dial up. It's going to take too long. People are going to lose interest.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Nobody had any idea that you were going to be carrying 5G data in your phone in your pocket that's capable of sending video all over the world instantaneously. And then social media where you could share that information and people would upload it to thousands of other places instantaneously. Have no control over information anymore. Before they have total control of the distribution of any information, they had complete control of propaganda.

[Bert Kreischer]

And they. And they don't now?

[Joe Rogan]

No, no they don't.

[Bert Kreischer]

They don't have total control. But they have control.

[Joe Rogan]

We're talking so they don't have total control. They don't have total control if we're.

[Bert Kreischer]

Talking because they don't have total control, but they have total viewing access.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes, that. Well, that's the weird thing about the UFO stuff. Right. Because there's two problems with disclos. One of the problems is these people who were involved in these programs had to have lied to Congress. There's misappropriation of funds. They had to get money in some sort of a way and they got this money through some sort of a misappropriation of funds. And that is highly illegal. So there has to be. This is that Age of Disclosure documentary. I don't know if you saw it, hasn't come out yet. But they had a screening at south by Southwest Jamie and I saw it. It's really good. It's really incredible. But it's. It's all people talking about what they know, what they've seen and what kind of people.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is Bob one of the guys?

[Joe Rogan]

Bob's not one of the guys, but Hal put off's in there.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh yeah. How was talking about that?

[Joe Rogan]

I mean there's a ton of people.

[Bert Kreischer]

When's that coming out?

[Joe Rogan]

I do not know.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is it coming out theater wise or is coming out like on a streaming service?

[Joe Rogan]

It'll probably come out on a streaming service. I had a guess, but it could come out in the theaters as well.

[Bert Kreischer]

Not gonna try and bury it?

[Joe Rogan]

No, I mean I don't think you can at this point.

[Bert Kreischer]

Too big.

[Joe Rogan]

Everybody already knows that it's done and it's out there.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think that's how disclosure is ultimately going to happen. It's just going to just one day this can be.

[Joe Rogan]

They think this documentary is going to break the. Well, break the dam rather. Yeah, they think this, this one's pretty intense. It's got basically everybody that worked on Christopher Mellon, all these different people that worked on all these different programs saying exactly what we have, what we know how long it's been going on and this is why they have not released these things. So there's that, there's that aspect of it, the, to Congress, the misappropriation of funds and then there's the other things that. How do you work on this stuff? Well, the government can't really do it on their own. So what do they do? They bring in defense contractors, jets and spaceships and shit. Those are the people that get access to this material. If they do have back engineered crafts and if they do have something that they recovered that's a crashed vehicle of non human intelligence, non human origin, not of this world. And they're back engineering this, that company that's back engineering that has an enormous advantage over their competitors. And so their competitors would just sue because like why would you give them access to, why would Raytheon get access to it when GE doesn't or you know, whatever the company is. So there's a. But they outlined the issues with, you know, disclosure and the resolution. They said there has to be some sort of a blanket amnesty to everybody that worked in that program. And they have to say, of course that's the only way.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's how they do it though.

[Joe Rogan]

But that's how they have to do it. If we're going to find out the information, we have one of two things we have to accept. We have to either accept that these people are going to be able to keep this stuff in power. The people that are in power are going to be able to keep this stuff secret because if they don't, then they're going to get in trouble and they're never going to release it. And so we're all going to be in the dark forever. Or we just say okay, in that within that scenario they're gonna be off the hook no matter what. So let's just let them off the hook for the greater good of mankind and understand what the fuck we're really looking at. What are we really dealing with? What do we really know? And so I'm hopeful that that's a possibility.

[Bert Kreischer]

So am I. Especially the last 10 years there's been so much stuff that's been out there.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh yeah, videos and basically from 2017, from that New York Times article in 2017 when it was on the front page of the New York Times that kind of opened up a lot of people's eyes, like, okay, this is a real. Now. Because now it's not ridiculous anymore.

[Bert Kreischer]

And now the next step is.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but I mean, there's got to be a lot of. There's a lot of fake stuff. There's a lot of misinformation.

[Bert Kreischer]

Don't you think that we're at least 10 to 20 years behind even whistleblowers, what they actually have? So even if they were to release some of the stuff, they still have other stuff that's just probably more advanced than we could possibly imagine.

[Joe Rogan]

I would imagine. I bet they have. That's what.

[Bert Kreischer]

Crazy. They can keep a lid on that, though. That is crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

It's impressive, but it's all. We just both said that we would shut up.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's true.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, they. Especially in today's day and age.

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, the threat of death is.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's a pretty strong motivator for.

[Joe Rogan]

Also, there's no way to hide that stuff unless you're a chatty gay guy. And James o' Keefe gets you on camera.

[Bert Kreischer]

Get off Grindr. Watch out.

[Joe Rogan]

I wonder what apps they're using to get. Get those chatty gay guys to give up all the juice.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's pretty impressive. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I would stop hiring chatty gay guys if I was involved in anything secret.

[Bert Kreischer]

Don't do it.

[Joe Rogan]

They'll spill the bill. The bill. They'll spill the big.

[Bert Kreischer]

They've got a lot of the big fish, too.

[Joe Rogan]

I know.

[Bert Kreischer]

Out there.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Guys.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Pretty wild cnn.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Yeah. Wild stuff that you should be in jail for what they found. Yeah, yeah. All that stuff is like.

[Bert Kreischer]

But again, nobody goes to jail.

[Joe Rogan]

Nobody except this lady with her frogs. That lady's a problem.

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, if you. If you're threatened of the establishment. Yeah, she probably is. She probably figured something out. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

The illusion of freedom. We have a lot more freedom than every other country, but still it's. It's an illusion.

[Bert Kreischer]

But you can't go after the, you know, the. In this country, two of the big ones are vaccines and cancer. And that's what I've been actually diving deep into the last about year. Because I've had a number of people in my life get cancer. And you've had a lot of people on the show who've talked about, you know, SV40.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

But also the remedies they've been using. I mean, Mel Gibson out here talking about Fenben and Ivermectin.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And that's what I've been in the weeds, you know, learning. Learning about the last. The last year. So it's really fascinating.

[Joe Rogan]

Such a disservice to humankind by demonizing Ivermectin in order to push vaccines. Because in so many sheep and so many dullards and so many people that are just boomers that believe everything that's in the news, Ivermectin is a fool's medication.

[Bert Kreischer]

Even today.

[Joe Rogan]

Today. Yeah, even today. Like, if you told they would have to be dying of cancer to even consider taking that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. I had a doctor tell me those. Why would you want to take horse paste?

[Joe Rogan]

What a dumb doctor.

[Bert Kreischer]

What the are you talking about?

[Joe Rogan]

What a dumbass doctor. Imagine saying that. Did you. Did you ask him, do you know the history of the use of that drug?

[Bert Kreischer]

I did. It ended the conversation. It was like.

[Joe Rogan]

It's literally like saying, penicillin. Don't take penicillin. They use that on dogs.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. I don't care. This guy. No. Nobel Prize. It doesn't matter.

[Joe Rogan]

Nobel Prize for use in humans on the World Health Organization's list of essential, essential medications.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And horse paste.

[Bert Kreischer]

The thing about cancer is wild, is, is that the majority of doctors during this process will not touch diet at all.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And we'll tell you, diet makes zero difference. And my problem is. The same problem I have with. With the vaccine and really the medical industry in general, is there's no more informed consent.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

The informed consent around cancer would be that it's a metabolic issue. And because it's a metabolic issue, and you're talking about anaerobic cells, then restricting sugar from your diet is a good place to start.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And none of these doctors will talk about diet. Sugars, glucose, anaerobic cells, nothing. No.

[Joe Rogan]

Someone. I'm close.

[Bert Kreischer]

We do radiation and chemo. That's it.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's very profitable.

[Bert Kreischer]

Extremely.

[Joe Rogan]

That's the. The problem is chemotherapy. Their doctors are incentivized in. In. In a way to prescribe therapy. Yes. Yeah. They're both profitable, which is really dangerous. It's really dangerous when you make more money if you give people medication, because then you get doctors like that doctor in Ohio that got arrested that was giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer. He did. Like a lot of people, he just was trying to make more money.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And when you incentivize and they're in that kind of a position of power where most people don't know what's going on, and this is the voice of authority, and they're like, look, you die. You die. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter at all. They tell it to someone close to me that got cancer. Diet doesn't matter at all. Well, of course it matters. It matters to everything. And it certainly matters to your metabolic health and your fucking immune system.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And then we know for a fact that cancer thrives on glucose.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

If you're in like a high sugar diet and a highly processed food diet that is, you're ripe for inflammation, you're going to get all kinds of inflammation that you wouldn't get if you are on a restricted diet that's higher in animal fats and, and, and low in processed sugar.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, ketogenic diet is a great place to start because you're restricting your body.

[Joe Rogan]

But there was another article recently about how ketogenic diets are giving people cancer, or that people are getting heart attacks and strokes on ketogenic diets by the.

[Bert Kreischer]

American Medical association, written by them.

[Joe Rogan]

It's probably by the same people that paid off the people to say that sugar wasn't the cause of heart disease and that it was saturated fat. The ones that was going on in the 50s and the 60s.

[Bert Kreischer]

Food pyramid creators, probably.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's a mess. But fortunately there's enough alternative sources of information that some people, I would, I would estimate it's like between 10 and 30% of the people are getting the truth. And then there's 70% of the people that either don't have friends that know these things, don't have access to these websites, aren't getting informed that there's a lot of these people that are doctors who are very credentialed experts in their field who have stepped outside of the narrative and they're, they're doing it because they feel they have a moral obligation. And they're saying like, this is a problem, this SV40 that we find in vaccines. Simian virus 440 is known to cause cancer and they found traces of it in the COVID 19 vaccine. And so in some of the batches of the COVID 19 vaccine, they find SV40. SV40 gives people cancer. Boom. In cancer. No connection.

[Bert Kreischer]

Isn't it ripe too, that AstraZeneca is making a cancer vaccine?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, that's just because they're nice, they're good people. Did you ever see what AstraZeneca means in Latin?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. Was it just so that it means. Jamie, bring it up. What does it mean again? Something about something.

[Joe Rogan]

Death.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. I don't care about life or something like that.

[Joe Rogan]

Right in your face. It's like either it's a wild coincidence. Or they stick it right in your face.

[Bert Kreischer]

Come on, somebody's got it. Laying it out. Okay, yeah, here we go. Post. Incorrect.

[Joe Rogan]

Incorrectly interprets the meaning.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yep.

[Joe Rogan]

So what is the correct one? Okay, what are they saying? It said weapon to kill. Users claim AstraZeneca means weapon to kill. The posts here, here, and here show a screenshot of the translation. Astra Z and nakare.

[Bert Kreischer]

Weapon that kills.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, a weapon that kills. Alleging that astra means weapon in Hinduism. Z means that in Polish. Well, a bunch of different languages. Nakar. That's like a little bit connecting the dotsies, captions. But what does it really mean? What are they saying it really means? Does it mean anything? Or is it just one of them names? Asterisk is roots in Greek. Astron, meaning a star. Zenica is an invented name created by an agency instructed to find a name which bring. Began with a letter from either the top or bottom of the Alphabet, as was phonetically memorable of no more than three syllables and do not have an offensive meaning in any language.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Hmm. It's all weird shit. Like, why would you do that? Like, just the way that you're creating this name, you don't want it to be offensive in any way, and you want it to be phonetically memorable. And like, you know, it's like there.

[Bert Kreischer]

Was a thing on the Internet a while back about when they had that crazy campaign, but Balenciaga as well. What? Balenciaga. They broke down what Balenciaga means, which is Bale is king, BAAL being the God of the Old Testament.

[Joe Rogan]

I didn't see that worshiped.

[Bert Kreischer]

And then Balenciaga put together that crazy campaign where they spelled Balenciaga with two A's, like baal. And then they had the kids in it, they had, like, books in the frame that were by a pedophile. Pedophile, yeah, stuff. It's like, is that just fucking coincidence or are you trying to.

[Joe Rogan]

It's right in your face. Yeah, it's. I think a lot of these people are super arrogant, and they've been running these kinds of operations long before the Internet existed. So they still behave in the same way. It's like when politicians get caught saying things and they said, I've never said that. And then they put this, like, long reel of them saying it over and over again because they forget they used to be able to just do that. They used to be able to just. And now there's too many Internet sleuths that are out there just immediately pulling things up and then of course, those are the Internet sleuths that you get massive pushback if you platform, if you talk to those people. Everybody's like, why are you having those people on?

[Bert Kreischer]

You had Ian Carol on.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, exactly. And you know, fucking everybody freaked out.

[Bert Kreischer]

Why?

[Joe Rogan]

Because he's really into it and he's uncovering. And maybe he's wrong about some things.

[Bert Kreischer]

But he does some crazy research.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, maybe he's right about things. That's the problem. It's not what he's wrong about. That's the problem.

[Bert Kreischer]

He opened my eyes to the, to the, what does he call it? The mega corporation that owns everything he went through, like all the different brands and the fact that it's basically Vanguard, State street and blackrock that own everything and then they own each other. And he's got, he's got stuff on his, on his website that shows if you're looking for a brand, who parent company is, who owns that company. It all comes back to basically this conglomerate of BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, JP Morgan and Fidelity, I think are, you know, they're kind of the main four or five there.

[Joe Rogan]

Whatever happened to like breaking up monopolies?

[Bert Kreischer]

No, they only did back in the day with, with the, you know, Rockefeller.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, they did it with Microsoft, didn't they?

[Bert Kreischer]

Did they?

[Joe Rogan]

Sure.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think these companies are like the pharmaceutical companies. They, they realize like what's the live nation, you know, like the, these huge monopolies that don't own everything. They're like, it's just a, an added cost. You know, I'm gonna sue it at some point for a billion and we're gonna make 15 billion off it.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's a 14 billion dollar profit. So whatever. It's a drop in the bucket.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, that's what happens when drugs get pulled and then.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, you've talked about it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, they never get viox, you know. Yeah, they never get fined more than they made.

[Bert Kreischer]

Never.

[Joe Rogan]

Never. It's always less than they made.

[Bert Kreischer]

And the back's the perfect windfall. Because they have immunity. Yeah, they have the perfect immunity.

[Joe Rogan]

They're talking about pulling that. And that's going to be the biggest fight. That'll be the biggest fight because there's still this narrative out there. And when I had Suzanne Humphries on.

[Bert Kreischer]

First of all, that was one of the greatest. And you got me onto her book. Yes, I read her book and then I read Bobby's book and her book's incredible. Her book is unbelievable.

[Joe Rogan]

And no one.

[Bert Kreischer]

No. And I gave that book to a lot of my friends who Are of, you know, of child. Childbearing age and they're starting to have kids. Like, just. I'm not telling you what to do, but just at least research this. You have, you know, all the information, because they're not going to give you the information. I. My friend just had a kid and got. Him and his wife got, you know, got. I don't know what the right word is, but got kind of harassed for not, you know, jabbing up their kid on day one of.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Of her life.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I experienced that. My kids were born.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

They want you to dose them up. And we're like, no. Yeah, no, we're waiting. We're not doing anything for years. Yeah, we had a very good pediatrician, though, who wanted us to get the kids vaccinated, but on a delayed schedule. He didn't believe in doing it all at once. I mean, it's like, what. You can't. You're not even supposed to eat sushi while you're breastfeeding. You know, you're not supposed to eat sushi while you're pregnant because you could get some sort of a parasite, and yet you're going to take pregnant women and dose them up with this experimental vaccine. Air quote. Vaccine. Experimental medication is gene.

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, they changed.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know, they changed the.

[Joe Rogan]

Change the definition. But there was no studies on whether or not women were getting damaged.

[Bert Kreischer]

No studies got released.

[Joe Rogan]

Right? Yeah. And now there's some study that it's destroying their eggs.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yep.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Have you seen that? See if you can find that. I bet you can't.

[Bert Kreischer]

That cancers.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, See, you find the eggs.

[Bert Kreischer]

Turbo cancers.

[Joe Rogan]

I know. I saved the egg thing. I can definitely find people dropping.

[Bert Kreischer]

Kids dropping.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's all very dark, dude. It really is. Because the more you look, the more you find.

[Bert Kreischer]

What about. What about the nanobots?

[Joe Rogan]

What about them? What are you thinking?

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, I've heard some rumblings that, you know, that was kind of like a fringe conspiracy theory that there was some nanobots particles that were in the vaccine.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I'm not buying into that unless I see more because there was a lot of that. People were saying there's magnets in there. Look, the metal sticks to your injection site.

[Bert Kreischer]

Supposedly there's a frequency that brings the particles together.

[Joe Rogan]

Nanobonds, I haven't heard.

[Bert Kreischer]

That brings the particles together in the body and creates a. It's like a tracking device.

[Joe Rogan]

I just sent Jamie this study. VAERS adjusted data and other derived from the MIT Florida Department of Health study. Findings that yield a conservative range of 470,000 to 600,000. That 70. 600,000American deaths from the COVID 19 mRNA shots.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's it.

[Joe Rogan]

More than just that alone. That's a lot of people, man. More than World War I, World War II and Vietnam combined. If that's true, it indicates Pfizer. This is Pfizer alone. So this is not even moderna. Pfizer alone likely killed over 470,000Americans. They found a 36% increase in all cause mortality among Pfizer recipients versus Moderna.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, but they saved millions.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I keep hearing that. I think the saving millions thing is even based on the idea that you wouldn't get Covid if you got the vaccine, which turned out to not be true at all.

[Bert Kreischer]

None of what they said turned out to be true.

[Joe Rogan]

No, no.

[Bert Kreischer]

Can't get it. You can't spread it. You're more protected, more robust immunity.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. What was I just gonna look up?

[Bert Kreischer]

Winter of Death for the non vaccine.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, that was a good one. That was a good one.

[Bert Kreischer]

Favorite.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. There's more studies coming out about myocarditis.

[Bert Kreischer]

Who's gonna be held accountable though?

[Joe Rogan]

That's a good question. Oh, here's the fertility study.

[Bert Kreischer]

Who's gonna apologize? I haven't heard any apologies. Have you?

[Joe Rogan]

No.

[Bert Kreischer]

Anybody apologize? CNN apologize to you yet? Putting that filter on your face?

[Joe Rogan]

No, it'd be nice. Yeah, I should probably apologize.

[Bert Kreischer]

Get Sunjay, get the. Get Gupta back on here. Sure he'll apologize.

[Joe Rogan]

No, I'd have it back on, I guess. I don't know what we talk about, but, you know, there's only so much cnn. Plus maybe you can defend. That was a fun trip. That was only a few hundred million dollar failure.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oops. They gotta be doing a little better now that. Now that Trump's back in, they got something to talk about.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't think they are. No, No. I think the. I think CNN's ratings are abysmal. And the only thing that saves them is that people just are consistent. They just go on there at a habit. I don't think people are seeking it out. So this is fertility study. A study of 1.3 million showed successful conceptions per 1,000 women were considerably lower for women who were COVID19 MRNA vaccinated. Preliminary results call for further studies of the potential influence of COVID 19 vaccination on human fertility. And I think in that thread they were talking about what it does to ovaries. Their eggs and ovaries. Yeah, right there.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yep. This is what a lot of the conspiracy theorists were talking about when the vax was coming up.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Well, it's like.

[Bert Kreischer]

Which by the way, the conspiracy theorists are undefeated still.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, conspiracy theorists are way more accurate than cnn. Way more. Even if they got things wrong, like, let's say there's no nanobots in the shots. But even whatever that. Forget all that. I think the nanobots in the shot would be too expensive. That's why I think it's not real.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, I'm with you.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, maybe a few people got it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Maybe.

[Joe Rogan]

I still don't think violent Biden got it on tv. I think they saline that dude. I don't think they put a real COVID vaccine in him.

[Bert Kreischer]

They didn't aspirate on any of the people on.

[Joe Rogan]

Exactly.

[Bert Kreischer]

On tv.

[Joe Rogan]

Well. Or anybody I know that got the shot.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I asked everybody who got the shot that they aspirate your. Your needle. What do you mean? Well, the syringe, when they plunge it in to make sure you're not in a blood vessel, they pull it back and they see if there's blood and if there's blood in it, they find a new injection site. Did they do that? No, they just.

[Bert Kreischer]

They were supposed to do that.

[Joe Rogan]

Everybody just got plunged. Yeah. And then there was this. The idea that it was gonna stay local. Don't worry, it'll stay local. No, not only is it not staying local, your body's producing spike protein up to 700 plus days after the shot.

[Bert Kreischer]

And some of the autopsies coming out a little bit creepy.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that's the other thing. Not just autopsies, but coroners were finding these crazy.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's what I mean. Corners. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

These crazy fucking clots that look like big white worms that are inside people's bodies they've never seen before.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think that's hold people accountable. Where's the news?

[Joe Rogan]

Where's the news? During their job, if the news was really the news, if you guys were really there to tell us all the information that we should be concerned about, like perhaps we are wrong about what this shot does. And perhaps with some people, maybe where it did get into their bloodstream, which is what they think happened was the people that they didn't aspirate because they didn't aspirate anybody. They think some of those people went right in their bloodstream. And then your body's fighting, then it's off like it's an intruder. And. And that's where you get the myocarditis and all sorts of other neurological conditions and crazy.

[Bert Kreischer]

We got to do a second shot though. And then a third, and then a.

[Joe Rogan]

Fourth and a ninth.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

There's people out there that took nine of those.

[Bert Kreischer]

He guess what? It's just like the flu shot.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

They get you for one strand of the flu per season.

[Joe Rogan]

Not only that, it makes you 25 more likely to get sick with something.

[Bert Kreischer]

Else, but you're way more protected.

[Joe Rogan]

I've never had one. I mean, I think maybe I had one once. Maybe somebody made me get one once. I don't know. But I never get the flu shot. And people like, I don't get. I get the flu shot every year, and I've never got the flu. Well, I don't get the flu either. Like, what are you saying? Like, I got the flu, like, once, and like, a couple years ago, for like a day or two days, I got a couple of vitamin IVs and I was good to go. Like, this idea that you have to get this shot or you're going to get the flu, and if you get the flu, you're going to die.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, that's a lemming effect. That's a lemming effect. They just, I. I got to do this everybody else is doing. If I don't do it, I'm outside the hurt. If I'm outside the hurt, I'm outside of, you know, my livelihood.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's also. You don't want to get the flu. The flu sucks. You don't want to be laid up in bed. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

The best immunity is natural immunity. Contraction and.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Beating anything. Yeah, just about.

[Joe Rogan]

Which is probably why I don't have the flu.

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, maybe diet has something to do with it, too.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. A lot of things have to do with it. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

You don't eat, like.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Maybe take some vitamins.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a factor.

[Bert Kreischer]

No, Mr. Hotez, what you need is.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a balanced diet of cheeseburgers. Yeah. That was a crazy one. The hotels one.

[Bert Kreischer]

That was a great one.

[Joe Rogan]

Looking at an overweight guy who's clearly unhealthy, telling you the only way to get healthy is an injection.

[Bert Kreischer]

No, don't take any vitamins.

[Joe Rogan]

Really doesn't exercise. Doesn't take vitamins. Eat junk food. Like, okay, and I'm listening to you why.

[Bert Kreischer]

And those are the people prescribing. Going to college to be a doctor, prescribing drugs.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. That's really what it boils down.

[Bert Kreischer]

Hook you. They deal with symptoms that keep you a patient for life.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. And it's.

[Bert Kreischer]

And anybody trying to actually heal people and treat the patient.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, you're a kook.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. Kook.

[Joe Rogan]

Naturopath. Kook. What are you saying? Vitamins, you fucking hippie. Jesus Christ. The really crazy thing from the Suzanne Humphries book that got me was the connection between DDT and polio.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yep.

[Joe Rogan]

What we call polio.

[Bert Kreischer]

How about how they change, just like the vax, they change the definition of polio.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. Once the vaccine was introduced, they completely changed the definition of polio to show this immense drop off of polio doesn't exist anymore. It's like, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Really?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Meanwhile, all the other things that could be what people were experiencing symptoms of all still existed.

[Bert Kreischer]

And most of the diseases cleared up from sanitation, clean air, clean water.

[Joe Rogan]

Of like when sanitation was introduced. Everything goes away. Yeah, yeah. We were living in squalor and filth. Human beings were living dead. Outhouses all throughout New York City, no ventilation. People were. No nutrition, no food. People were starving to death. They were working horrible hours. And of course, everybody was sick.

[Bert Kreischer]

As one of my favorite parts about the book was there was during the cowpox epidemic where they were like cutting people's skin and putting like posse.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know, disease into it as the vaccination. And there was a county in England, I believe, that wasn't doing any of that stuff. And it was the only county that had zero cases or next to zero cases of cowpox in the area. And the other counties just hated them because they, you know, where the, you know, anti establishment, non vaccinated people. And it's like, what happened today? Like, look at.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

How come we haven't studied the Amish? Like there's been a few studies. Right. Why do the Amish, you know, live longer lives, are healthier. They don't have any sids.

[Joe Rogan]

No autism either.

[Bert Kreischer]

No autism.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that's the, the SIDS thing's the scariest one because there's people saying that what SIDS is, is these children dying from vaccines and that what you're, oh, your kid just died suddenly. Who knows what happened? Well, did anything happen before that? Did you like maybe inject them with a bunch of chemicals in the last couple weeks? It was hepatitis B for a baby. Did that go down? You know what happened? But nobody wants to say it because nobody wants to be responsible for their child dying because they let that happen.

[Bert Kreischer]

And instead of going, that's interesting, they go, oh, you're a anti vaxxer. You're this, you're that, you're anti Science. Science. It's like the content of what I'm saying is, doesn't it piss you off that SIDS even exists in the first place. And you've just put in this blanket. Made up, you know, made up. I don't know what the right word is to label. Label. Oh, it's a sudden infant death syndrome.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

We don't know what it is. It just happened suddenly and it happened to an infant and they died. Wouldn't you want to figure out what the caused this instead of just like. Well, we don't know. It's just. There's just a small percentage that it just happens to. Well, what happened to the baby in the first. You know, right before, the day before.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Two days before, a week before, two weeks before.

[Joe Rogan]

The Amish and the autism thing is really nuts. They don't find any off.

[Bert Kreischer]

They found. In the study, I read they found two cases of. Of autism in this Amish population and both were adopted kids who had been vaccinated.

[Joe Rogan]

That is so wild. That's so wild. It's like the overall implications are so large that people even want to consider the possibility of it. They'd rather keep the blinders on, but they. It's like what Carl Sagan about said about people being bamboozled, that it's easier to bamboozle people than to trick them. It's easier to trick them than to convince them that they've been tricked because they don't want to believe it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And that's what you see. People are like. You start talking to them about the possibility that these things cause all these problems and their eyes glaze over. They're like, oh, where are you hearing this? Well, where are you hearing that that's not the case? Why are you so confident to say that this is what happened? People just like, blankly, the COVID vaccine saved millions of lives. Millions. Like, how do you know that? How do you know that? How many do you think got fucked up by it? I know a lot of people that got fucked up by it, and most people do, too, and they don't want to admit it. Well, it's not correlation. Causation is not correlation. They want to pretend.

[Bert Kreischer]

Why was it? Why are they trying so hard to scare the shit out of everybody? Tell me that. Why? They have debt tolls on the news.

[Joe Rogan]

The news stations make a lot of money.

[Bert Kreischer]

And that's what vaccine. Same thing. There's a ton of money. Doctors get huge bonuses for fully vaccinated kids. That's the truth. Isn't that. I mean, like.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Instead of attacking the person that says that, isn't it something you should look into?

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is that a conflict of interest.

[Joe Rogan]

It seems like it is.

[Bert Kreischer]

Should be.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it seems like it is.

[Bert Kreischer]

Let me try one of those.

[Joe Rogan]

Get in there, dog. You're not gonna try two? You want two at least? Come on, get a couple more, man. You're gonna run dry. My friend Brendan Schaub, he had, like, four and four sixes in his mouth. I'm like, what are you doing? You have four in your mouth. Like, dude, I love them. Four. Any given time, I got four in there. They have one, I think, called the Pablo. That was called. I think it has 30 milligrams. Like, I try. I put it in my mouth for a second. I was like, I can't do this.

[Bert Kreischer]

Good one.

[Joe Rogan]

I can't handle this.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's got a 50.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God.

[Bert Kreischer]

50.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God. That's so crazy. That's so much nicotine. You're supposed to have, like, six milligrams a day for the benefits that they talk about.

[Bert Kreischer]

Six. That's it.

[Joe Rogan]

I think that's it. I think that's all you need.

[Bert Kreischer]

And the benefits increase the more you take.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know. We'll find out. Imagine if, like, they do a study on all these guys that were using tobacco pouches all day. Like Shane Gillis. He swaps a new one out every five minutes all day long, just popping sixes.

[Bert Kreischer]

Real American right there.

[Joe Rogan]

Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, it's. It's a weird. I thought they were super addictive, so I quit for a few days. Yeah, that was fine. It was nothing. I felt nothing. Like, I think you have a stronger.

[Bert Kreischer]

Will than most people, though.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. But I didn't even get a headache. Like, when I quit coffee. I get a headache. Yeah, I've quit coffee a couple times for a day or two, just for fun, to see what happens. I'm like, oh, I feel like I'm a hundred percent addicted to coffee. But I could quit it. It would just. I would feel like for a couple days, and I would just figure out what to take so I don't feel like shit.

[Bert Kreischer]

Sugar, I think, is the biggest addictive.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

You cut sugar out. You do like a. Oh, yeah. Whole 30 or whatever. You know, they freak out. Yeah, I get you.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Well, that's another thing that freaks out. When people start trying ketogenic diets, they get the keto flu, they call it, because your body's like, where's the sugar? You know? And then there's also the problem that a lot of the sugar that we're getting is corn syrup, and corn syrup is. It's sort of a manufactured sugar. So your body. There's an extra step your body has to take to process it. Like, people want to say, oh, well, it's chemically the same as it is from fruit or cane sugar.

[Bert Kreischer]

But no, it's not.

[Joe Rogan]

It's not. No, no. The science shows that that is not the case. Not only that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Anthony Fauci.

[Joe Rogan]

Not that guy. Okay, if you criticize Anthony Fauci, you criticizing science. Okay, what about those AIDS vaccines you gave foster kids, you piece of. Yeah, in the 1980s where they died.

[Bert Kreischer]

What about the polio vaccines your best buddy gave in India and maimed and. Yeah, paralyzed. A bunch of.

[Joe Rogan]

How about that? Most of the polio was from vaccines. This is like modern polio. There's like. There's a large percentage of modern polio that is vaccine derived.

[Bert Kreischer]

The majority. Suzanne says, yeah, people.

[Joe Rogan]

You tell that to people and they go, what now? My favorite one is when I. When people get nutty about all this stuff. What about polio? If they didn't have the polio vaccine, I go, jonas Salk, what percentage of polio do you think is asymptomatic? Meaning you have polio, but you have no symptoms at all. And they're like, oh, probably not none. 95 to 99%, you say. Then they're like, what? And then you Google it and you see it right in front of your face, and people just go, what the fuck is going on here? Like, what is that? And then the. Suzanne Humphries, when she connects ddt where the first cases of polio were from rural communities where they were spraying DDT on all the crops. Yeah, they're spraying DDT everywhere. No one knew that DDT was so bad for you. They were spraying it everywhere. And not just people were getting polio. Dogs, horses, cows. It was like animals were getting the same symptoms. And polio is not cross. It doesn't cross pollen. It doesn't go to these other species. It doesn't jump species. It was DDT poison.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's coincidence.

[Joe Rogan]

It's wild. You tell that to people, their eyes glaze over. It's. And I get it. I get it. I've been there before. It's like. It's too much. It's too much to admit. As Carl Sagan says, the bamboozle.

[Bert Kreischer]

Why, though? Why can't we just be common sense? Like, that's. I was thinking the other day, I was like, I don't want any shit in my water. Let's take out the fluoride. Let's take out the Chemicals in our water, in our food. Can we take out artificial dyes? Is it too hard to have the same. The same food U.S. manufacturers that, that you put in the food in Europe that doesn't have the dyes in it, that doesn't have the bullshit, that has 20 less ingredients? The same shit for us.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. The same company. No one's saying, don't give us Froot Loops. I want Froot Loops. Just give me Fruit Loops. Don't give me cancer. Yeah, you can do that. It's still bad for you, but so what, it's less bad for you. Wouldn't that be better? Like, oh, it doesn't look as pretty. What? Once the milk gets in there and everything gets crazy, who gives a fuck, you know? No little kids are looking at that going, I don't like this as much. The colors are dull. Yeah, no, they're gonna eat the Fruit Loops.

[Bert Kreischer]

But is it too much to just want to have like common sense shit? Your vaccines, can we get them just double blind, placebo tested, safety testing vaccines?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, they're gonna do that now. And this is another thing Bobby's done.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, come on, Bobby.

[Joe Rogan]

The other thing that Bobby did, did you see that conversation that he had with a dentist about fluoride where the dentist was questioning about floor. Why you're going to have a lot more dental surgeries. And then Bobby hits him with the stats about like, what you don't need that in the water. You could use. If fluoride is so effective, you use it orally like toothpaste and mouthwash and you spit it out. You have to swallow it and take it in your. And you probably shouldn't even do that. I don't use fluoride toothpaste. Eddie Bravo had a great point. He's like, if, if fluoride did so much, why would they specifically advertise toothpaste as not having fluoride? Fluoride free toothpaste.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Which is true. That's what I use. I don't have any cavities. I haven't had cavities in ever. I can't.

[Bert Kreischer]

Some other ways to avoid cavities too, you know, like do oil pulling. Just swish some coconut oil around you add some baking soda if you want to it do you know that's the. Somebody's talking about this recently about the, the myth around root canals. Oh, the danger.

[Joe Rogan]

Root canals can possibly leave bacteria on parasites.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, it's. It's really bad for you if you have a root. Can I do now I'm getting Mine taken out.

[Joe Rogan]

What, are they gonna put a drill hole in there, a post, and get a new tooth? Or you're just going to go toothless?

[Bert Kreischer]

New tooth. I think new tooth. Yeah. It'll be kind of cool. If I was a hockey player, maybe.

[Joe Rogan]

Maybe I get a gold tooth like a rapper.

[Bert Kreischer]

Let's go platinum.

[Joe Rogan]

Platinum.

[Bert Kreischer]

Diamond.

[Joe Rogan]

Have a couple diamonds in my teeth.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, I can see with the grill.

[Joe Rogan]

Next ufc, all diamonds and vampire girl.

[Bert Kreischer]

Big, big UFC coming up.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. Yeah. The Merab rematch with Sugar Sean. That's an interesting fight. Very interesting fight. I do not know how Sugar Sean keeps that guy off of him, but I do like what he's been doing. Got off social media, stopped smoking weed, just dialed the fuck in, got his hip fixed, which was a big problem. There's a lot of these fighters that take these fights because it's a lot of money and it's a big event, and they don't want to cancel, and they got a significant injury. Sean could not wrestle. Imagine not being able to wrestle in camp, and you got to go face.

[Bert Kreischer]

Merab, who's gonna get you on the ground.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a fucking animal. That guy's superhuman. There's no one like him. The cardio that guy has is off the charts. It's just off the charts. I've never seen anything like it. He doesn't get tired.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And he's full gas, no breaks. The entire fight, it's just smothering, overwhelming people. Even Nurmagomedov, who's also an animal, he couldn't keep him off of him. This motherfucker's crazy. And then when DC went to visit him on Sunday, the day after the fight, he was out running.

[Bert Kreischer]

What?

[Joe Rogan]

Yep. DC went to his house to congratulate him, and he's like. And DC made a video of it, because he showed a video. Marab's Gym, he's got this gym in his garage. Pretty dope. And he's like, this motherfucker's out running. He just won the world title. The next day, he's running. He's an animal, man. He's a animal.

[Bert Kreischer]

I was sad to not see you in Montreal.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I haven't been going to Canada lately. I talk too much. I love Canadian people. I do love Canadian people.

[Bert Kreischer]

And I like Montreal. That's a good city.

[Joe Rogan]

I love Montreal. One of my favorite restaurants, Joe Beef, is in Montreal. If you can get in, go there. It's phenomenal.

[Bert Kreischer]

I'll drop you.

[Joe Rogan]

Incredible place. Incredible. They'll let you in, but there's the culture in Montreal is amazing. I've always loved it. I've been going to Montreal since the 90s. I love it. I love Vancouver, I love Toronto. I love Canada. Like, I love the people. I just think they're going down a dark road with this government and you can't. It's hard to pull that stuff back once they start taking away rules or instituting laws, taking away rights, pulling people's guns, doing all the things that they're doing right now. They allow polygamy now in Ontario. Yeah, they just passed a law. They allow polygamy because they have so many Muslims there.

[Bert Kreischer]

Are we sure we want them as a 51st state or.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, we can clean it up.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It'S never gonna happen. He was just trying to fuck with them. And it had the worst effect possible because they thought that Pierre and the Conservatives were a shoo in that this, like it was going to be a Jordan. The way he described it, he said they were in a position where the Liberal Party had a real risk of complete collapse. And then Trump comes along. I'm going to turn into the 51st state. I was on the phone with him and he was telling me, he's like. I kept calling him Governor Trudeau and he goes. And I was. First of all, I was joking about turning it into a 51st state. But then a lot of people go, it's actually a good idea. I think it might be a good idea. It's so crazy. But that is the worst possible effect because then Canada United, like, hey, these fucking Americans think they're going to take over us, eh? And then they. Sorry, yeah, it became a disaster for Canada, unfortunately, because if he didn't say that, Pierre would have probably won, I think.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is this guy worse than Trudeau? Is that possible?

[Joe Rogan]

That's what Jordan believes.

[Bert Kreischer]

Really?

[Joe Rogan]

Jordan believes he's worse than Trudeau. He's. Jordan thinks he embodies all the worst aspects of the World Economic Forum, you know, young global leaders mentality of control. And some of the things that he said about every decision will be made with climate change in mind. Like that kind of talk, Climate client, this idea of climate change. Yes, yes, sure. We should definitely clean up the environment, of course. But understand that there's no thing they do ever that's completely benevolent. It's not happening. Everything they do is about power and money. And so if they're pushing global health or if they're pushing climate control or climate change, it is about power and money.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's a restriction of rights coming for sure.

[Joe Rogan]

And they just do it in a way where it's kind of undeniable because the future of our world, the future of your children, Meanwhile, Canada, just pumping cold like a fucking semi on the highway, just. They just making coal power plants. They're like, look at these idiots. We are just going to make as much electricity as possible because we're in a technology AI race with these. And then they found out that China has been sneaking in all these listening devices to these solar systems that they sold us.

[Bert Kreischer]

What about the transformers?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, the transformers. There's, yeah, a lot of different things. Yeah, Chinese solar power inverters. This is what it is. I'll send it to you, Jamie, if you can't pull it up in time, it's a race to see who gets it first, Jamie or me. You got it? He's always quicker than me and he's only typing one hand, which is even crazier.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's impressive, Jamie, but.

[Joe Rogan]

So they found out that there's. They're calling it a ghost in the machine. There's these rogue communications devices found in Chinese solar power inverters. Yeah. Of course, if we're stupid and we take their stuff because it's cheaper and there's no limitations on these foreign countries buying up land in America, where you can't buy any land in China. You can't own a company in China, you can't buy land in China. They're smart about it and we're stupid.

[Bert Kreischer]

Another China virus, huh?

[Joe Rogan]

So rogue communication devices not listed in product documents have been found in some Chinese solar power inverters by US experts who stripped down equipment hooked up to grids to check for security issues. Two people said over the past nine months, undocumented communication devices, including cellular radios, have also been found in some batteries from multiple Chinese suppliers. Cellular radios in batteries? I mean, this is the ultimate Trojan horse. I mean, props to China. They're so clever. They knew we're dumb and they know we're greedy. So we want, like, cheap.

[Bert Kreischer]

Why don't we just shut this shit down?

[Joe Rogan]

Because we can't make these things. This is what Trump is trying to encourage. Like, you know, he talk. I talked to Tim Cook. Tim, you don't want to be opening up a plant in India. I don't like it. People's like, that sounds like fascism. No, it sounds like someone's concerned about national security. Yeah, like, maybe we shouldn't have. Like, who knows what's in this? Who knows what's in. I never looked. I've never looked in this. I don't look. And most of these are made in China or India. Right. Why don't they make them here so we know that it's just the CIA spying on us?

[Bert Kreischer]

Nah, they couldn't be doing that. They're Beneluvant Benevolent.

[Joe Rogan]

My favorite one is these phones that can't be hacked.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Because I asked a legitimate security expert to do a deep dive on this and he sent me an actual PDF. Like, he laid out all. He, like, literally went through it. He's like, I can get in all these. Yeah, everybody can get if I. And he's like, if.

[Bert Kreischer]

Wasn't Elon gonna make one, though?

[Joe Rogan]

He's talked about it, but he says, I hope I don't have to make a phone. That's what he says. I hope I don't have to do that. But if they get into his iPhone and texts get leaked and that kind of happens, maybe he will.

[Bert Kreischer]

I was watching Kill Tony. Who's the comic who played Elon?

[Joe Rogan]

Kyle Dunnigan. Kyle, he's the best.

[Bert Kreischer]

He's hilarious.

[Joe Rogan]

He's so funny, dude.

[Bert Kreischer]

He's so.

[Joe Rogan]

Have you ever seen his Instagram?

[Bert Kreischer]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God. He does these face swap videos with like Trump and Stormy Daniels and the Kardash. Stormy. It's like, it's. He's so funny, man. He's so fun. He's such a wild dude. Kyle is like the most underappreciated guy out there, I believe. I really do. In terms of like all out funny. I mean, he. It's. His stuff is so ridiculous.

[Bert Kreischer]

Comedy, I feel like, is kind of in a better place.

[Joe Rogan]

Is in a better place.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I think a big turning point was the Tom Brady roast.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I think that was because it was the biggest thing ever on Netflix. More people watch the Tom Brady roast on Netflix, which is wild comedy. Tony Hinchcliffe and Tony was unbelievable. On fire. On fire. Yeah. I mean, he took that super seriously. And, you know, I actually got a hold of Tom to get him on the roast. I was like, yeah. I'm like, you got to get Tony Hinchcliffe. They're doing a roast on you. You got. He's the best roaster alive. Yeah. No, no exaggeration.

[Bert Kreischer]

So you think after that just more stuff was on the table or people were more.

[Joe Rogan]

Netflix was all of a sudden, like, wide open. They were completely open to do wild stuff now because they're like, look, fuck all this woke shit. This is not profitable. Not only is not profitable, like, we're actually killing the business and you're killing the business. Of comedy. Because people watch these specials, like, what is this? Like, you made a DEI comedy special or, you know, an inclusive comedy special where you're letting people do comedy in the biggest form in the world just because they fit this particular group of people, this particular political group.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's.

[Joe Rogan]

It's crazy. It's identity politics in the worst way possible because it's counterproductive for your business. Your business is to provide entertainment. And then some of your more successful businesses are what? The movies and shows. They're wild shows. Like, crazy happens in these shows, but not with comedy. With comedy, we have to gatekeep. We have to keep it. And I think they realize after they did a few of those things that nobody watches them, people hate them, and it actually is bad for their business. And then they do the Brady Rose boom. And they're like, okay, you know, and when I did my special, they had no limitations on me. They didn't say anything.

[Bert Kreischer]

And they have before, and it was live.

[Joe Rogan]

But no, because it was live. They're like, we're not. We're not telling you what to say. It's live. Just go ahead. We trust you. They went to see me live at the club. They're like, okay. I'm like, really? Okay. They're wet. They're letting it go now. Tony has a special that's coming out on Netflix. They're doing Kill. Tony is on Netflix now.

[Bert Kreischer]

Really?

[Joe Rogan]

He's doing more roasts on Netflix? Yeah. That's great.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's what you need.

[Joe Rogan]

And then I think it's also the competition with YouTube, because so many people, like, Shane put his special out on YouTube. Ari put Jew on YouTube. So many people are putting these wild specials on YouTube. And they're getting massive numbers. Yeah, massive numbers. And so I think they're just like, look, this is a. We're in the business. Like, what are we doing? This is obviously, like, super popular, and people love it. And it's also really good. This is really good comedy. Like, what are we doing? What are we doing?

[Bert Kreischer]

Going broke, Going woke.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's go back to where we were. And now that Trump's in office, it's like, well, the whole country leans in that direction now, so the people want you to get more wild.

[Bert Kreischer]

SNL is kind of funny again.

[Joe Rogan]

They've had some funny sketches. Yeah, they had Shane on twice.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, I know.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. So it's good. It's good for comedy. It's good. Comedy has to be looser. You have to be more wild. Doesn't mean you're cruel. It doesn't mean you're evil. It's just comedy. Just like movies where people get shot. That's not evil either. Okay? It's like. Comedy is funnier when it says fucked up things. It just is, always has been. Yeah, back from Richard Pryor and Lenny Bruce and Sam Kenison and Bill Hicks and everybody else and Eddie Murphy. It's always been the wildest shit is what's funny.

[Bert Kreischer]

Kings of comedy.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, exactly. Kings Comedy, Blue Collar Tour, you know, Dave Chappelle. It's like, it's all. With the wild shit is the funniest shit, period.

[Bert Kreischer]

People want to see, so you want to see.

[Joe Rogan]

They know what it is. It's a fucking art form. It's called shit talking. Yeah, that's what it is.

[Bert Kreischer]

Put your offense to the side.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, Just go have a good time. They don't mean it like, have you seen Brian Holtzman yet?

[Bert Kreischer]

No. Oh my God.

[Joe Rogan]

You guys see Brian Holtzman? He's a Los Angeles legend that we got to come out to Austin. And he was like the guy that would go on late at night and he's so wild that Mitzi Shore wouldn't put him on stage for two weeks after the 9 11.

[Bert Kreischer]

Really?

[Joe Rogan]

She's like, no, don't let him go up. And we were dying. Holt's like, Ms. Mitchie, I don't understand. I'm not going to say anything crazy. She's like, no way. No way. Two weeks. Two weeks later. He's just saying the most ridiculous. He went on stage after Susan Smith drowned her kids, like the day after. He's like, I heard there were bad kids. I heard they sat that close to the tv. They didn't put away their blocks. They were always spilling their fucking milk. Those kids would not be missed. Like, it's. It's a crazy character. You meet him in real life. He's the nicest guy on earth, but he's so funny. He's so ridiculous. I don't want to tell you what he's talking about now. I don't want to give it away, but comics just line up to watch this guy. Like when he's on stage, we all get onto the balcony like a whole.

[Bert Kreischer]

Has he been in the mothership?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yes. And he headlines there all the time. He's there all the time. He wasn't having an audience in L. A because they were putting him late, late at night. And here we're like, throw them up at 10 o' clock. Let him headline. Yeah, give them 40 minutes, man. Let them go off.

[Bert Kreischer]

I Love it.

[Joe Rogan]

It's fun. It's a good time for comedy. A really good time for comedy.

[Bert Kreischer]

But movies, though. We need movies. Haven't caught up, though.

[Joe Rogan]

No, but have you seen.

[Bert Kreischer]

I'm not saying we got to go make Tropic Thunder multiple times.

[Joe Rogan]

Have you seen Segura's new Netflix series?

[Bert Kreischer]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is it.

[Joe Rogan]

It's so crazy. It's so crazy. It's called Bad Thoughts. Okay. It's these short sketches, these short films. Ess. They're all, like, short, like, five, ten minute films.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And there's just a bunch of them, and they're ridiculous. Like, so outrageous and so crazy that you're watching, like, no, no. Oh, my God. What the. Dude.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is Burt a bunch of people?

[Joe Rogan]

No, Bird is not in it. And Bird actually made a video. Congrats on the Tom. And I don't know why I wasn't on it. Did you think about me having me on it? Kind of weird that my best friend didn't have me on his show.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

He's like, I'm kind of in these hill, Tom. I'm kind of joking, but also kind of serious. Like, was there any talks about having me?

[Bert Kreischer]

He's a little hurt. Your first alternate just. Just missed the cut.

[Joe Rogan]

I wasn't on it either. You know, who cares? Just. It's great. It's really great. And it's again, it's like Netflix taking wild chances. Just completely wild chances.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think that's so much goddamn money. Like.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. Yeah. And so many viewers. You know, it's like, if you want to reach the most people, it's YouTube and then Netflix.

[Bert Kreischer]

You think UFC is gonna go to Netflix?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know if they could do that. I'm not. I'm a dummy. I'm not a business guy. I don't understand. So the problem is, would they be pay per view still? Because the Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight was on Netflix, and it was just. You could just watch it. Just like you watch everything else. You have to pay more for it. So if they had the Ufc on Netflix, but they made people pay more for it, I don't know how that would work out.

[Bert Kreischer]

What if you just did, like, five bucks?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I don't know. Well, that's a good question, right? Like, if the UFC was $5 instead of $70, would you actually make more money? Because you get millions of downloads or millions.

[Bert Kreischer]

We think about the user base on Netflix, right? It's.

[Joe Rogan]

It's pretty immense.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's got to be, what, 500 million a billion?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, we'll find out. It's got to be way bigger than ESPN plus.

[Bert Kreischer]

They've ESPN plus themselves with that. A couple. A couple ago, I couldn't even get it on my. On my.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, they had a crash during the ankle. I have Pereira fight, right? That's not good.

[Bert Kreischer]

And we're all. I was like, looking online, like, what the. I'm not the only one. Like, thousands of people were like, what.

[Joe Rogan]

Was the root cause of that? Did they discern?

[Bert Kreischer]

I don't know. I just. It literally wouldn't let me get on.

[Joe Rogan]

That's another fight. Pereira took that fight with a broken hand and norovirus.

[Bert Kreischer]

I knew he was. I knew he's messed up.

[Joe Rogan]

Crease an Animal. Netflix has 94 million monthly active users. The company has over 300 million paid global subscribers. So 300 million worldwide. Top tier ad, supported tier. Oh, so they have an ad now. You can have ads so it's cheaper. You can get it cheaper with ads. Okay. They're distinct from paid subscribers. Multiple individuals can share an account.

[Bert Kreischer]

Do you have any idea what the. What the average pay per view on UFC is?

[Joe Rogan]

No, I don't. I don't know what the numbers are because I don't think they have to disclose it. Do they even. They used to disclose the boxing.

[Bert Kreischer]

Boxing would all the time as like kind of a badge of honor, you know, two point. Like Floyd would do, you know, 4.

[Joe Rogan]

Million for the Conor McGregor fight. It was something crazy. Like, that was one of the records. And then the Manny Pacquiao fight, I think was the biggest one ever.

[Bert Kreischer]

Who's coming back to fight?

[Joe Rogan]

That's kind of crazy.

[Bert Kreischer]

He's 46 years old, but he's also saucy, great singer.

[Joe Rogan]

He's not gonna come back. 46 on the natch, I guarantee you.

[Bert Kreischer]

You think so?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I mean, if I was a person that was like, prone to ridiculous speculation, which I am. I mean, he. He carried his knockout power through eight weight classes and his physique notably improved. Yeah, I mean, and boxing has always had a steroid issue. Steroids. Because like weigh in tests, tests on the day of the weigh ins is just an intelligence test. It's just, how good is your doctor? How good are the scientists? Same as ufc, mma.

[Bert Kreischer]

Why don't they stop doing that? Well, or change the weight classes?

[Joe Rogan]

Usada, when ufc, When UFC brought in usada, all that changed. And people's physiques melted. They changed radically. Alistair Overeem is the greatest example. Alistair, when he fought Brock Lesnar, got drug tested and he was Saucy as fuck when he's flexing on stage. That's when he was ubereem260, solid as ripped and just one of the more elite strikers on planet Earth. And Brock was.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And then they. They make him take the drug tests and he becomes a normal person with good fighting skills.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, I mean, he wasn't the Ubereem anymore. This destroyer on the sauce. Man, that guy was. I would love to see what a. An Alistair Overeem run on the sauce would have been. Mike.

[Bert Kreischer]

Demolishing people.

[Joe Rogan]

Mike. God, it would have been epic. It would have been epic. It would have been really wild.

[Bert Kreischer]

So you want to see it back in the game?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. I want fun. I don't want to see fat heavyweights, the out of here. I want Alistair back. Yeah, get him back on the sauce. Alistair's like a vegan now.

[Bert Kreischer]

You think Jon Jones fights this year?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know. I hope so, but I don't know if he does. He doesn't have to.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a legend. He's also 37. At what point in time does he. Is he 36 or 37? At one point in time does a fighter say enough is enough, Especially a natural fighter. And if you are natural and you have to be today, they just test you way too much. There's probably some shenanigans that go on. You know, like when a rod had those gummies that had testosterone in them and only it's a short, short lifespan. Yeah, there's probably some shenanigans. They're still going on.

[Bert Kreischer]

I mean, if. If Balco could get away with it 20 plus years now, you would. You would think there's got to be people out there who are ahead of the game.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, when I talked to Navitsky, he was pretty open about that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, you had him on here?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah. He was like, yeah, there's gonna be methods that we don't catch.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Because there's always going to be some kind of a lab. Like. Like Icarus. Like the documentary.

[Bert Kreischer]

Amazing documentary with the kgp.

[Joe Rogan]

One of the greatest documentaries ever. Because.

[Bert Kreischer]

And he wasn't even doing that to.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

In general. He was just trying to.

[Joe Rogan]

He stumbled upon it. Yeah. And then he did that other one afterwards. The dissident. I didn't see that documentary. It's all about the assassination of Jamal Khashoggi.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, really?

[Joe Rogan]

And that one, interestingly enough, nobody wanted to stream that one.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like you had to buy that one.

[Bert Kreischer]

Not surprising.

[Joe Rogan]

They put it on platforms, but you had to purchase It. I think that might still be the case because that one, you know, because, like it's available everywhere. The dissident. Yeah, yeah, it's very good, dude. It's very good.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's dark 2020.

[Joe Rogan]

Mm.

[Bert Kreischer]

Where does it say you can get it at? Just YouTuber to be.

[Joe Rogan]

Exactly. That's what I'm saying, man. It's one of those things where it's like they buried that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Those are the ones I want to see.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it was a good one.

[Bert Kreischer]

Can't get platform.

[Joe Rogan]

But Icarus, totally by accident, this guy stumbles upon. So what Brian was doing is Brian, who's an endurance athlete himself, was going to compete in a bicycle race, naturally. And then the next year he's going to get doped up and document the entire thing. So he gets a hold of this guy who is supposedly the head of the organization that's stops drug use in Russia. But Gregory Rodchenkov starts explaining exactly how to get around this, how to do this. This is what it's going to take. And then along the way, they get busted for tampering with the urine samples that were used during the Sochi Olympics. So they find out that during the Sochi Olympics and everyone was doping, Russia got like a ton of medals and they kicked ass and everything. And interestingly enough, he said the one sport that they found that didn't benefit from steroid use was ice skating. The figure skaters that, you know, like, you had to have like fine motor skill, movement. It was really just about being light and. And being able to perform those things over and over again. And they didn't find evidence that giving those people steroids helped, which I thought was interesting because I would have thought it would helped everything. There's a lot of explosive power involved when they jump and spin in the air. But so the entire team was doping. And then they had a hole in the wall where they would take the real urine sample, pass it through the hole in the wall, and they would give them back a doctored urine sample.

[Bert Kreischer]

But it was the KGB who was running that.

[Joe Rogan]

The KGB was running it, allegedly. And the lids, through microscopic analysis, they had found that they developed some sort of a tool that could open the supposedly unopened without tampering with the. But they found all these scratches all over that indicated that some sort of a device had gotten in there and popped open the little things that kept the lid from coming off. Woo. Well, it's like, you know, when you have the Olympics. I think first of all, my position in the Olympics is that it's a giant scam against the athletes. The athletes are generating insane wealth and they get none of it.

[Bert Kreischer]

None of it.

[Joe Rogan]

It's crazy.

[Bert Kreischer]

Top 1/10 of 1% can make any type of money.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. And then they go out and then maybe the top 10 to 1%, they get endorsement deals, and that's where they benefit from winning a gold medal in the Olympics. Meanwhile, the people that run it, the networks, everybody else.

[Bert Kreischer]

Billions.

[Joe Rogan]

Billions of dollars. But the thing that people want to see, the athletes get none of it. That is a.

[Bert Kreischer]

Especially if you're in a sport that nobody. You know. You're a decathlete, like.

[Joe Rogan]

Right? Exactly.

[Bert Kreischer]

Making no money. You're a shot putter.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Congrats on the gold medal. Now get your ass back to work.

[Joe Rogan]

Nobody gives a. Who wants synchronized swimming?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You're not getting any money. But meanwhile, billions of people are watching on television. There's an immense amount of ad revenue, and you're not getting a penny.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And that's the only thing that they ever put on TV like that where you don't get a penny. NBA gets a cut. NFL gets cut. Everybody gets paid. Everybody gets paid in boxing. Everybody gets paid in every sport there is.

[Bert Kreischer]

And he's at the Olympics. One every four years. Yes. And by the way, you better perform in the trials. Right. You can run the world record that year in competition and then go to trials.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like a thing. Mud did our 800 runner and get tripped up. Fuck it. You missed the Olympics. Sorry.

[Joe Rogan]

Some of these gymnasts who are the best in the world, famous or poor.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Best in the world of what they do. Spectacular performances. The whole world cheers. We're watching them with bated breath on television. Pull it off. Pull it off. They stick the landing. Yes. They get nothing.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Nothing. It's a dirty, dirty scam that's been going on for so long, people have just accepted it because it started back when there was no money in it because there was no television. Like when you see Richard when. When you see Adolf Hitler just jonesing at the 36 Olympics.

[Bert Kreischer]

Speed. Don't let him beat you. Don't let him beat you.

[Joe Rogan]

He's just. Whatever the. He was on, that guy was feeling it.

[Bert Kreischer]

I love that Jesse Owen just torches.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. And puts up the fist. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing moment in history. But it's just. That was no money, Right. Because there was no money. And then once television rolled in, they didn't say, hey, let's cut these athletes in on this. We're making billions of dollars now. Nope, Nope.

[Bert Kreischer]

They can't Even pay for their training.

[Joe Rogan]

Exactly. It's disgusting. Not only that you're never going to beat the Cubans and the Russians back then because they were funding everything. I mean, these people didn't have to worry about how they were going to feed themselves healthy food while they're preparing to box in the Olympics like our guys did. You know, it's like we and the.

[Bert Kreischer]

Chinese, what they're doing with their athletes too. They send them away super early. And then you're in a program for 10 years.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, to prepare especially like Russian wrestlers.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, what did they do to you?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Karellin. Karelin. Who? The photo that I have out in the gym. Smite. Maybe my favorite sports photo of all time. Corellin. Picking up that 300 pound man. Like he was nothing. Like I pick up a 45 pound kettlebell. He's fucking with his grit on his fit. That picture. Meanwhile, his parents yoked. His parents were like five. Five.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. He was £300 and moved like a cat.

[Bert Kreischer]

Natural.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, he didn't even seem like a fucking human when you saw him compete in his prime. Guys would just flatten out on the ground, try to just protect themselves from being pummeled into the earth over and over again. He wrestled different than everybody. Everybody was just trying to take you down. He was trying to pick you up and slam you repeatedly into the earth, like you getting hit in the head by the world. And he just did it over and over again to these guys. Just broke. I mean, the freak of all freaks. Look at the musculature on this man. Totally natural, by the way.

[Bert Kreischer]

Of course.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I just ate a lot of borscht. Yeah. Just eating Russian sausages. And what beats? Well, how about those European women athletes? The Eastern bloc athletes? The women that they set records that still to this day haven't been broken.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. And won't.

[Joe Rogan]

I think that's the whole scam about getting transgender guys. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Get the Bulgarians. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Who are they letting in the Olympics? They're letting some trans athletes compete in the Olympics. Which is like, okay, is that what we're doing?

[Bert Kreischer]

Weren't the boxers in the couple boxers that were trans.

[Joe Rogan]

They thought no one guy fought a woman, but it's like a guy with a micro penis. Allegedly. And like internal testicles, but went through puberty as a man, looks like a man, the whole deal. And then did a chromosome test for allegedly for previous boxing or organization body, and they came back XY and like you're a man. And then, you know, that was very controversial. They didn't do that with the Olympics, which they clearly should. Like, they should do that with all sports. You know, that's what the Enhanced Games guys are going to do. You know, the Enhanced Games. Okay, the Enhanced Games is a very well funded idea and they're, they're, they.

[Bert Kreischer]

Call it the Enhanced Game.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh yeah. They're all going to be on the juice. They're going to be on the best steroids money can buy, the best technology, all the athletes, okay. And they're going to pay them when they win. It's like millions of dollars. There's millions. So they're putting this together as a huge event and they're trying to entice the best athletes in the world to do this safely. This is the Enhanced Games update coming.

[Jamie Vernon]

I guess next week.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh. So we had the guys on, who were the guys who put together this? And I said, what do you, how are you going to deal with trans athletes? And they were like, I think we're going to do chromosomes, which is the right way to do it. Yeah, let's stop around, you know, just stop pretending that these males that identify as women who win what is like 700 women were robbed of gold medals in very across various sports. It might have been more than that because these biological men pretended to be women and identified as women and dominated in women's sports. They have a giant advantage. Stop pretending they don't. Just stop. And if you want people to compete, if you still want to compete and you're a woman, you know, you should have, I mean, you should be protected and only have to compete against other actual biological women, period. End of discussion. It's not bigoted to say trans women.

[Bert Kreischer]

Movement is actually anti woman.

[Joe Rogan]

100 especially when, when it comes to sports. 100.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, that's what I mean. Sports, you know, you're not seeing trans men dominating anything. No, because there's a biological difference.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's also a problem because if you're a trans man now, you have to take testosterone, which is banned. You can't take it. So are you gonna let them take it and you won't let older athletes take it? That sounds crazy. That doesn't make any sense. So if you get like a 39 year old athlete has low testosterone, you won't let him take it, but you let a woman take it to become a man. Like shut the fuck up. Chromosomes. That's it. Double X and xy.

[Bert Kreischer]

Way too much common sense there, Joe.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just the idea that that's bigoted is so crazy when There's a demonstrable effect. Like you can clearly see that these people that are identifying as women but are actually biological males have massive advantages.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. But the people who you're asking those questions, whether or not. Who are not able to answer whether or not there's a decided advantage can't even define what a woman is exactly.

[Joe Rogan]

But this is, this, is this kind of like head in the ground mindset is the same, same thing that you're seeing with COVID vaccines, the same thing you're seeing with pharmaceutical drugs. Same thing you're seeing with USAID and cancer. People just don't want to know most. And also they feel helpless. Right. So they want to be like reinforced and feel better. There's a. Most people that are listening to us right now are living paycheck to paycheck. Most people, if you're living paycheck to paycheck, how much are you going to stick your neck out for this? How much you gonna stick your neck out for anything? How much are you gonna open your mind or open your mouth up about all cause mortalities? How much you got like all the different things that people are concerned with in the wars, low birth rates, the exposure to cancer, everything that's in the news, everything constantly. How much are you gonna stick your neck out? Most people aren't. They can't. They don't have time. They have family, they have mortgages, they're. They're barely getting by. They're not going to fucking risk.

[Bert Kreischer]

And they're being told not to care.

[Joe Rogan]

Right? Yeah. And then they're being shamed if they do care.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. You don't want to be the anti vaxxer at work.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

If you say, well, I'm just telling you. I watched, I read some scientific papers being broken down by legitimate PhDs online. They were explaining what the mechanism is that this stuff could cause cancer.

[Bert Kreischer]

Don't do your own research.

[Joe Rogan]

Don't do your own research. That was my favorite. That was my favorite.

[Bert Kreischer]

Trust the experts.

[Joe Rogan]

That's like right out of Orwell. And when it's Brian Stelter saying all these people, they want to do their own research, what do you do your own research. Why would you ever assume that everyone who listens is dumber than you?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Why would you ever assume? And if you're an intelligent person and someone says there's medical research papers that you can clearly read that show you results, why can't I understand that? I can go through college and learn calculus, I can figure out how to program a computer. I Can figure out all these things. There's all these things that I can do, but I can't research this effect that this chemical that I'm introducing to the human body does. Don't do your own research. Trust these experts. You don't trust experts in anything because over time, they're wrong about certain things. And new expertise emerges. And we look, they used to use leaded gasoline. Should we trust the experts and keep putting lead in gasoline? Where they made IQs demonstrateably lower. You can, like, statistically lower in places and where people grew up. And I'm one of them. We grew up in a place where they. At the time where they had leaded gasoline, I probably could have wait smarter. When I was a kid, I was just sniffing leaded gas. I have a buddy who has what he used to live in New York, and he was trying to do a garden in his background, his backyard. But he's a smart dude. So he took soil samples, brought it to university, and said, you know, tell me, like, what's wrong with the soil? It's like, filled with lead. All from those days from back when everybody had leaded gasoline. It was just in the air, just. Everybody just lead fumes. Because they didn't want the engines to ping. Because if you. If you have unleaded gas. When we used to have muscle cars back when I was in high school, if you put unleaded gas in a muscle car, they would run, like. Because this was back when you could still buy leaded gas. Like, when did they make unleaded gas, Jamie?

[Jamie Vernon]

The first time?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Like, when was it introduced? And when did they. When did they ban leaded gas? Let's. That's the better question. Because everybody was just breathing in this.

[Bert Kreischer]

But the whole point is that things change stuff.

[Joe Rogan]

And if we're ignoring side effects because we want to keep our head in the sand, that's crazy. That stops the learning, which we need, which is why we don't do lobotomies.

[Bert Kreischer]

Anymore, if you're a curious person.

[Joe Rogan]

So lead was added to gasoline in the 20s to improve performance. But it was later discovered that it was a pollutant and a neurotoxin. And. Okay. The U.S. environmental Protection Agency began phasing out lead in the 1970s. 1996, the Clean Air act banned sales. They wanted to keep making that money. Aaron RODGERS So when I was a.

[Bert Kreischer]

Kid, so they Learned in the 70s, and it took them 26 years. 26 years, LOL.

[Joe Rogan]

So when I was in high school, like, if you had. Because we had carburetors Back then there was no. None of those cars had electronic fuel injection. Yeah. And you. You bought lead gas. And I drove mostly muscle cars through my younger years, so I probably knocked my IQ down quite a few notches.

[Bert Kreischer]

At least three or four points.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, people used to kill themselves in garages. They would lock themselves in their garage and just let the engine run until they died. Those way people committed suicide still do. Yeah. That's the way people do. I know people who did that. Like, I don't know them personally, but they're friends of people that I knew that they take a hose and attach it to the exhaust pipe and then put it inside the cabin and it's a.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's awful.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a way that people commit suicide. Yeah, that's.

[Bert Kreischer]

What is that? Carbon monoxide poison.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Yeah. And we just put that out in the air. Yeah. But at least doesn't have lead in it anymore.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's good.

[Joe Rogan]

Crazy. So the point is like experts are. They don't always catch all the problems with especially novel inventions.

[Bert Kreischer]

And maybe there's some conflicts of interest. Yeah, maybe there's being paid to say something. They're paid to do something.

[Joe Rogan]

Imagine they find out it's a neurotoxin in 1970 and they keep using it for 26 years.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, how else are you going to run all those cars that need leaded gas? Aaron Rogers. Come on, smarty pants.

[Bert Kreischer]

Water.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, that was the other thing. Like the guy who created a water car yelled, they've been. They poisoned you and then he dies.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

How about that?

[Joe Rogan]

How about that?

[Bert Kreischer]

Research Gone.

[Joe Rogan]

You imagine you're some Texas oil guy and you find out about some dipshit in Long island that figured out a water car. Like, can't we seeing someone up there? Yeah. Like you're realizing your empire is about to collapse in front of your face.

[Bert Kreischer]

And the fact that actually happened.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah. What happened to the water car? Apparently you drive across the whole country on a tank or something.

[Bert Kreischer]

Where's the trash car like from Back to the Future.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. That's what we need.

[Bert Kreischer]

Why can't we put trash in the old.

[Joe Rogan]

Right, the old compact job.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Nuclear.

[Bert Kreischer]

Use that as energy. Huh?

[Joe Rogan]

What is. What are that? Water car guy. This. What did. What was the official cause of death?

[Jamie Vernon]

Aneurysm. Stanley Myers, his name.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, they got him with the old aneurysm gun.

[Bert Kreischer]

There's been a few of those guys though, some other ways of doing it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I mean, what a coincidence. What a coincidence that A guy who develops an engine that runs on three quarters of the Earth's surface that everybody has coming out of their tap. That everybody has. It's everywhere. You could buy it at the store. You could. It's in your swimming pool. You swim in it. And that could be fuel. And it would just. What would it release? Mist? Nothing. Steam?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Probably be good for the environment. Probably help the trees.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But climate change, we're spreading all that mist out there. Probably help the trees grow. Be nice, be greener.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know, plant some more trees.

[Joe Rogan]

Imagine if that did it. And all of a sudden, Los Angeles started raining all the time. This is great.

[Bert Kreischer]

That'd be incredible, because you just got to stay there.

[Joe Rogan]

Moisture in the air, it all comes down as rain.

[Bert Kreischer]

Have you been on Newsom's podcast yet?

[Joe Rogan]

I heard it's really good. He would probably have me on. I'm not interested. You know, I'd like to be asked. It's not like I'm opposed to talking to Democratic politicians. I'll talk to anybody. But that guy. Yeah. Now I'm not interested. Yeah, yeah. I talked to Federman. I like that guy.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You see, you know, he's really struggling post stroke. He's doing a little better sometimes yes, sometimes no. But he has a translator that he carries with everywhere. Yeah. When he's doing the podcast, he has an iPad in front of him so that, like, when. Like, sometimes he has lapses of memory, like short term. So, like, if you. You and I were just talking about something, he would forget what we're talking about. So he has to look at the screen. So sometimes he. He hears a question, but doesn't process. But he's lucid, and he's a very nice guy.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But they're attacking him like crazy now.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's because he has a little bit of common sense, and he goes, but I'm gonna weigh each based on their individual merit, not, oh, this is a Democratic issue, this is a Republican issue.

[Joe Rogan]

Exactly. They do not want anybody stepping outside the lines.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

It's weird, man. It's weird that people accept it if.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know how the politics work. Like, I know we're only 100 and whatever days into this, but. But after we get through this first year, the Congress ain't meeting the same way they're starting. The people who are up for reelection in 2026, they're going to start campaigning here after about three months into. Into the. Into the new year.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, probably.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's how it works.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

So what's going to happen. Who's going to be held accountable.

[Joe Rogan]

It's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting to see how much money gets spent on these campaigns.

[Bert Kreischer]

What about the new plane that Trump's getting?

[Joe Rogan]

He's still getting. Is that real? So is Qatar was going to give him a 400 cutter? Is that you say it?

[Bert Kreischer]

I think Cotter.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, Cotter. I've heard it said a bunch of different ways. Qatar. Cutter.

[Bert Kreischer]

I've been corrected many times.

[Joe Rogan]

Is he.

[Bert Kreischer]

I thought it was Qatar. Oh, Or Qatar.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's find out what.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's cutter. Okay.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, like, like, like a person who like, cuts themselves.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yep, Horizontally.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay, well, I'm wrong then. I thought it was Qatar, but either way they were gonna give him a 400 million dollar jet, which is like, I want to know first of all, what's a 400 million dollar jet?

[Bert Kreischer]

And they also are buying Qatar.

[Joe Rogan]

Qatar. Qatar.

[Bert Kreischer]

Okay, then all those people that fucking corrected me.

[Joe Rogan]

Can we hear. Yeah, what the fuck? Can we hear a person from Qatar say it? See Google person from Qatar pronouncing how to say it. I bet you there's a video on YouTube because it's a controversial one. I bet you it is a video.

[Bert Kreischer]

Big controversy.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah, it's really. Well, it is now, Theo is just there.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, he was talking with the troops, huh?

[Jamie Vernon]

Or cnn or this one?

[Joe Rogan]

That one. Try that one right there correctly.

[Bert Kreischer]

We are looking at how to pronounce these names as well as how to say more interesting but often confusing country names and names from geography. So make sure to stay tuned to the channel. So how do you say it? Well, officially in Arabic, it is to be said Qatar. Qatar. Easy, right? In English, it is generally accepted that it is said as Katar Katar. But Qatar is how.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay, so it is. It's like Fedor Emiliano. His real name is Fyodor. But we go, yeah, Fedor. We're gonna tighten that up. Yeah, yeah, Qatar. We like Qatar, sir.

[Bert Kreischer]

There's a lot of wild names on the ufc. You guys gotta.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, boy.

[Bert Kreischer]

Do you ever forget when you're out.

[Joe Rogan]

There doing interviews, like, yeah, there's. There's struggles. Yeah. Some of them are rough. You know, I up Umar Nurgomedov's name once, but that was just because I knew his name. I knew how to say it. It's just my mouth didn't work right, ladies and gentlemen. No, I just it up. But, but that's just. That's. There's a lot of these, like, Russian And Dagestan. Names that are really like, Zabit, Magomed, Shara, Pirov. Yeah, nice. That one is crazy. You know, there's.

[Bert Kreischer]

There's a bunch of crazy in the hotel room. Is practicing.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, you have to. I get them. They. What happens is before the weigh ins, like, sometimes I've never seen a guy fight before. Like, they're new to the ufc, so then I have to find them online and watch some of their fights online. And then even then, like, there's discrepancies and how to say the name and so that we have to get it from them. And then they have little recordings where the fighter will say their name and like, Jesus Christ, play it back again. Like, what. What is the vowels he's using? Like, what is this? You know, some of them shocked Rachmanov. Like, yeah, wow. Shavkat Rachmanov. Okay. You know, there's some rough ones. Yeah. It's generally like the Russian ones are the nice, difficult ones. Yeah. Just. It's just. It's weird where parts of the world develop ways of sounding that other parts. Like, if you like the way they talk in Japan versus Germany, you know, it's like. You know, it's like weird little Spanish now. Like Brazil. It's almost like a sing songy. The way they said bougie. You know, the way they talk about.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's like Italian too.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Yes, Italians. Very, very sing songy. You know, it's weird. Different parts of the world just decide, like, no, we're gonna be stoic with the way we say things. And then you go to Italy, it's like they're all drunk, like, hey, kabish. Yeah, it's fun. They're having a good time. And they're like, the colder the climate, the harsher the sounds, the harsher the woods.

[Bert Kreischer]

Hard people.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Hard people.

[Bert Kreischer]

People.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Worst. The worst time I've ever had trying to understand people that are speaking English was in Belfast. Oh, we're in Northern Ireland for ufc. And me and. Me and this dude from Belfast got drunk at this bar, and I remember he just kept saying, I'll fight any man. That's. He just kept repeating, no, he wasn't even a big guy. He was just. I'm like. I'm like, I believe you. We're. We're all getting hammered. And just. That was back in the day when I could get drunk with locals. So.

[Bert Kreischer]

Can't do anymore?

[Joe Rogan]

Nah. Because, see, Theo Vaughn got in an altercation in Nashville. Yesterday. No, a couple days ago. Yeah. Some guy was with him for some viral video, and Theo grabbed it by the neck and pushed him away.

[Bert Kreischer]

They open training? They've been doing some jiu jitsu training.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't believe so.

[Bert Kreischer]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

It was probably a bad move. You never know. You grab him. But the guy was just doing it to get a rise out of Theo. He's with them.

[Bert Kreischer]

But that's the tough part about being out in public.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like, yeah, but back then, I wasn't so famous. I could. I could go around. So it was fun.

[Bert Kreischer]

No one ever tried to with you when you're out?

[Joe Rogan]

Nah, they're all friendly.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Most of the people who know me are nice who know of me. It's like every now and then I'll get a side eye from a blue hair, you know, wearing a mask.

[Bert Kreischer]

Hey, take your mask. I can't understand you. Take a mask down.

[Joe Rogan]

That I helped Trump. That's where it really ramped up. Before the Trump thing, people didn't.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, the. The Kamala stuff about what a moron to not come on the show.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, well, Pierre didn't come on either from Canada. I offered to have him on as well.

[Bert Kreischer]

Really?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. His people. His people didn't want him coming on. His people apparently thought that it was a bad idea for him to come on the show.

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, I mean, I think anybody with a brain knows that Trump coming on here had a big, big sway on the election.

[Joe Rogan]

I think Trump is a unique individual, though. If you talk to a politician that only does well with canned questions and with speeches that were written in advance by skillful people, like, it's. Trump famously rants. Okay, so to have that ability to go up in front of 15,000 people and just have a rough outline of what you're going to talk about. And so I said to him, you know, and he just like starts when he's doing Biden wandering around like, not knowing where he's going. It's bro, he's doing stand up.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And he has a set, and he's doing this set to arenas all over the. Everybody else has a script. Everybody else is reading off a teleprompter. Everybody else has to know what they're going to be asked in advance.

[Bert Kreischer]

I mean, Biden famously had the questions and who to call on and what the answer was supposed to be on that no note card that got multiple times. Again, wouldn't you like to exposed take.

[Joe Rogan]

Whatever they gave him before the debate.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, my gosh.

[Joe Rogan]

I bet it's awesome. I bet it's like that shit from that Bradley Cooper movie.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Where all of a sudden, you start seeing numbers in front of you.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, I think I got it.

[Joe Rogan]

I think I could do the debate. Like, because every other time, he's, like, barely coherent.

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, that and an earpiece. He did pretty well.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. There was probably some way of communicating with him for sure. I mean, I don't know why they would risk it. Like, how about Kamala had some weird earrings. Remember those earrings? Yeah. And the company that made those blue teeth earrings was, like, kind of taking credit for it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. Nothing to see here. I just think it's funny. Now there's the one guy in CNN wrote a book about Biden's, you know, cognitive decline.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

He was, like, one of the biggest proponents of, like. No, he's sharp as ever. Sharp as attack, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I don't know why they thought they.

[Bert Kreischer]

Could write that, but it was all. It was all theater. They do a debate before anyone's ever done a debate. Let him go up there without its drugs.

[Joe Rogan]

Yep.

[Bert Kreischer]

Without his uppers. Without his earpiece. Yep. Like, Trump's response to some of those. I don't know what you said, but.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't think he does either.

[Bert Kreischer]

He doesn't. I was laughing at going, what the is this?

[Joe Rogan]

He does either.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. And then they just move him out of the way.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. How about we beat Medicaid? Okay. Time off. Like, oh, my God. Like, what are you doing? You guys set him up. But it's so bad. It was so bad for the Democratic Party because if they were just honest about that and then had a primary.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I just don't think he wanted to stay. Step down. And Jill didn't want to step down.

[Bert Kreischer]

No, Jill. Jill didn't.

[Joe Rogan]

He's as sharp as ever. I remember she did the one thing afterwards where he got done. You answered all. You answered all the questions so good. My wife said that to me. I'm like, what are you. What did they give you? Are you high? What the are you talking about? Of course I answered all the questions.

[Bert Kreischer]

She just answered questions for him on the View as well.

[Joe Rogan]

That was even better. Like, Dr. Jill, I thought you did.

[Bert Kreischer]

Such a great job. You were. Was such a great president.

[Joe Rogan]

Is she a doctor, like, a medical doctor, or is she, like, a PhD?

[Bert Kreischer]

She's like me. She's got an honorary degree.

[Joe Rogan]

No, no, no.

[Bert Kreischer]

She probably is.

[Joe Rogan]

I think she has a real one. Right. But that doctor thing is very sneaky. We should need a different distinction, you know? Like, it should be PhD, which is very impressive. Like, you should be Able to say, I'm PhD Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, but you have to say, I'm Dr. Aaron Rodgers. Right. Like, if you had a real PhD.

[Bert Kreischer]

In something, I think I'd say PhD.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. But would you introduce yourself like that? That sounds GROSS. But saying Dr. Rogers is like, oh, Dr. Jill.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yes, yes.

[Joe Rogan]

It's doctor. Your doctor.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. Dr.

[Joe Rogan]

They used to call Cosby. Dr. Cosby. Why a lot of people call it. Because he got an honorary. I'm just putting this out there. I'll speak at university if you give me an honorary. I want to be Dr. Rogan. I think it'd be fun. Oh, for sure it'd be fun.

[Bert Kreischer]

People already think you are after your coveted comments.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow. I was. I had a good doctor, actually. I had a good, real doctor. They gave me good advice.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. How about that?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, what a weird world we live in.

[Bert Kreischer]

Can't believe we're here.

[Joe Rogan]

But what is Dr. Jill, doc?

[Jamie Vernon]

In 2007, at age 55, she got a doctor of education from Delaware, I think.

[Joe Rogan]

Damn it, 55.

[Bert Kreischer]

Congrats.

[Joe Rogan]

That's kind of wild.

[Bert Kreischer]

Doctor.

[Joe Rogan]

I wonder if she did it just to be a doctor. Like, I just really want.

[Bert Kreischer]

This is gonna look good when Joe's the president.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Dr. Jill.

[Bert Kreischer]

Didn't you know my favorite?

[Joe Rogan]

She was, like, 15.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. But when. When Biden was talking about his handicap to drop.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

I'll play you if you. You got to carry your own bag, though. Shut the up.

[Joe Rogan]

You gotta carry more of your arms.

[Bert Kreischer]

You're an eight handicap, Joe.

[Joe Rogan]

He falls down going upstairs. That's so rare. It's so rare that people fall down upstairs. You're gonna beat Trump at golf. Trump is actually really good at golf.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, he wins his club tournaments.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Which is crazy. Like, you're playing with, like, real golfers then, like, he's apparently a really good golfer.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, what is his golf handicap?

[Bert Kreischer]

I think he's definitely a single digit.

[Joe Rogan]

But that's a crazy thing to say for Biden. Brian also said he would kick his ass. I kick his ass. Yeah. I'd take him out to the woodshed. It was a fun time to watch.

[Bert Kreischer]

Remember when he told that worker, like, they're like, some sort of steel mill or something. Punch you in the face or something.

[Joe Rogan]

He called him a dog. Dog face. What is it? Pony face. Liar. What the.

[Bert Kreischer]

Did he say dog face?

[Joe Rogan]

Dog. Pony face. Dog soldier. Something like that. A pony face. I don't remember what the phrase was.

[Bert Kreischer]

Neck sniffer.

[Joe Rogan]

But it was fascinating. It was fascinating watching people run cover for him, you know.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It just like that really damaged the Democrat Party that they let them do that. Because imagine if they didn't imagine they had a real primary, like a real one, and, you know, Bobby would have a chance. Yes, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yes, I think so, too.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. 100%. Especially if they let him talk. Especially if they let him present some of the information that everybody's saying. He's a kook. Let me present this to you. And he's so calm because he's been doing this for so long. He doesn't get emotional, which is a real trap.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

When you're accused of being a kook and you get emotional, it's super defensive. Yeah, super defensive. And he doesn't do that.

[Bert Kreischer]

And I thought he was great in the, you know, in the sessions of Congress when he was trying to. What do they call that when they're asking him all those questions and trying to pin him down when he's nominated? Yeah, I thought he was great.

[Joe Rogan]

No, he's great, but he's a brilliant guy. And these guys didn't have this voice issue. It would be a shoo in. I mean, he would be.

[Bert Kreischer]

He would have won.

[Joe Rogan]

He would have won. He would have been the next president. Like, I'm not bullshitting. If they. If the Democratic Party allowed him, they allowed. Had no gatekeeping and allowed a real primary. And Bobby got in. And Bobby didn't have a voice problem. And he had the intellect that he has and the background that he has and the history of environmental protection that he has. I mean, he was an environmental attorney that literally helped clean up the East River. He stopped these companies from poisoning the environment.

[Bert Kreischer]

And that's my problem with the entire Democratic Party is that. Is that just because Trump won and Elon is working for him and Bobby's working for him and insert. Anybody's put in his Cabinet all the good shit that they're doing, the billions that Elon has found of just fraud and corruption and bullshit. Bobby's saying, hey, let's just look at these vaccines. Let's look at the efficacy. Let's do real safety tests on these. Like all the common sense shit that's going on right now by the cabinet members dissolving the Department of Education, all the different things they're doing, like, if it's good for the country, if it's common sense good for the country, why are we not on fucking board with this?

[Joe Rogan]

It doesn't mean you shouldn't criticize the bad stuff, but if you criticize everything or if you ignore all the Good stuff, then no one is going to listen to you. You can't do that. It's like if you have an enemy. If I have an enemy, I don't have any enemies. But if I had one and he was really good at something, I'd be like, I think he's a piece of shit. But I'll tell you what, he's fucking talented. Like this thing that he does, he's really good at it. That's just fact. It just is what it is. And if you think someone's doing, if they're on the wrong party in your eyes, but they're doing something good, you're look, I think that's good. I think this is important. It's good for everybody. Like, it has nothing to do with parties. It should have nothing to do. There's something that a person that you don't like who's in office, and they pass a bill and that bill benefits us all. We should all celebrate. And the fact that we don't is nuts. The fact that no one cared that Elon brought those fucking people back from space. The guy's a fucking hero for that. And any other time in history, any other time in history, the super genius sent a fucking rocket to go rescue the people that were trapped in orbit because NASA couldn't, they couldn't.

[Bert Kreischer]

And if he'd done it in 2016 when Obama was in there, it would have been fucking great.

[Joe Rogan]

It would have been great. And they could have done it while Biden was in office, but they wouldn't let him do it because politically it would look like a victory for Trump because Elon supports Trump. So they left those people up there.

[Bert Kreischer]

Fucking wrong.

[Joe Rogan]

It's evil. Yeah, it's evil. It shouldn't be a political.

[Bert Kreischer]

96% of the articles about Elon are bad.

[Joe Rogan]

96%. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

You're attacking one of the smartest guys in the country who literally is spending part of his time trying to fucking clean up the government efficiency and waste and corruption and fraud.

[Joe Rogan]

And there was a comparison to 96% of something else that was all good, that might not be good. See if you can find with that comparison.

[Bert Kreischer]

Talking about Pelosi's stock trades or something.

[Joe Rogan]

You don't hear a peep out of that. There's no media stories about. Except wasn't there a bill that was.

[Bert Kreischer]

Put out there that was trying to.

[Joe Rogan]

Pelosi bill. They were called the Pelosi bill.

[Bert Kreischer]

Didn't make it, huh?

[Joe Rogan]

I love the time when she gets asked during a press briefing. It's like, wow, I think we should participate.

[Bert Kreischer]

All right. There's no conflict of interest.

[Joe Rogan]

Pushes the mic away like she's four winds in going, what? What are they talking? Stock trading? I don't even know what they believe.

[Bert Kreischer]

They would bring this up.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, that's something that Elon has said. We should investigate that. How? All of them.

[Bert Kreischer]

Because it's on both sides.

[Joe Rogan]

On both sides. It is on both sides. 100%. That's something that maybe we could have bipartisan support for. You know, there's some bipartisan things that people support. One of them is the new ibogaine research, which is wonderful. It got past the first step in Texas.

[Bert Kreischer]

Good.

[Joe Rogan]

The ibogaine for. Then they're going to do ptsd. PTSD for soldiers and veterans. That has bipartisan support. I love when something has bipartisan support. That should do.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

The Elon stuff should be like, what do you. Look what he's done.

[Bert Kreischer]

We should be championing it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Okay. You don't like his politics? Fine.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

You loved it before. You love the green cars and electric cars and shit. Until he. Until he fucking won the election for Trump. And now he's running Trump and he's running the government, looking his kid on Trump's lap and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Joe Rogan]

I think as soon as he got the Twitter files and he found out what the government was doing, he was like, whoa. Imagine you have so much money that you could actually buy. Buy a conspiracy. You could find the answer, because that's what it is. It's like the only time island would.

[Bert Kreischer]

Have been if we could.

[Joe Rogan]

We still wouldn't have gotten anything out except listening devices. I bet they're everywhere. They would have to gut the walls. They would probably gut. If they sold to us, they probably got the walls.

[Bert Kreischer]

But as is.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, as is. As is.

[Bert Kreischer]

No contingencies. Just as is.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

I mean, there's other islands, though.

[Joe Rogan]

That's. I bet there is.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right? Ask your buddy Alex about it. Probably. Betty. No.

[Joe Rogan]

Black helicopters take him over the island.

[Bert Kreischer]

You're so good.

[Joe Rogan]

That's the only impression I could do. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Alex looks good, man. Lost some weight. He looks good.

[Joe Rogan]

He looks great. Yeah. My friend Sean's trained him nice. Yeah. He's been working with him every day. He makes him work out. Come on. We're doing it. Come on.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, come on, man. Let me check my Twitter real quick, see how my engagements do it. If Elon didn't allow him to put infowars on Twitter, too. He puts all his shows on Twitter and they Got millions and millions of views. And guess what? He's right. All the fucking time. All the fucking time. And they just want Sandy Hook and Sandy Hook. No one even knows who did Sandy Hook. Yes. The average person. Sandy Hook that connected to Alex Jones.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

They don't even know the guy who was the actual murderer. And here's my question. How does one get bad information about that and how much that bad information is fed to a guy like him so that he repeats it so that you could trap him and then you accuse him of it?

[Bert Kreischer]

He's been right so many times about.

[Joe Rogan]

They got him the other things. They got him with that one.

[Bert Kreischer]

But I mean, that's what I mean. Because he's been right so many times. You got to shut him up.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a way. I mean, it's certainly in the ocean. He was like. He was going through it during that time. He was drinking way, way, way too much. He was drinking all day, and he was. Imagine you're in a job where you're uncovering things that nobody else knows. All the time. All the time.

[Bert Kreischer]

And it's a lot of pressure, a lot of.

[Joe Rogan]

There's no way you could research all of it, too down to the bone, either. And when someone sends you videos that have been doctored or, you know, someone tries to tell you this, they're using crisis actors. That's classic. A1 people say they use crisis actors. Like. I don't doubt that. I don't doubt that. There have been times where the government was trying to promote some sort of a narrative, and maybe they did something that went sideways, and then they brought in some people to pretend that they saw something that didn't happen, or they described something in a way that wasn't true or accurate. I think the government would definitely do that. They've done so much.

[Bert Kreischer]

They've done so much. Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Northwoods.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. The idea that they wouldn't lie, they wouldn't have people. But I don't think that would work anymore. See, the thing is. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Because you can't control.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Joe. Concerned citizen on the street with their phone out.

[Joe Rogan]

Too many people have phones. It's like that that ship has left the harbor. You're not doing that anymore. I don't think. Unless. Unless you're using, like, super sophisticated makeup techniques, which they also have.

[Bert Kreischer]

See, some of those masks that people.

[Joe Rogan]

Can put on look insane.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Insane. Especially in nighttime situations, like outdoor. Nighttime situations, like, there's no they. You could be.

[Bert Kreischer]

Couldn't tell the difference.

[Joe Rogan]

No way. Those Masks are insane. They're so. See if you can find some of them. CIA masks. And by the way, this is just the. They show you. Yeah, you tell me they don't have more advanced stuff.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's what I'm saying about the, you know, the propulsion systems that they have. And your guy was saying that stuff too. Like.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Half. Half the stuff in the sky is.

[Joe Rogan]

Probably ours or someone else's. That's the scarier thing. The scary thing is China.

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, the scary thing, I was living in New Jersey last year when the drone stuff was going on.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, boy. Did you see him?

[Bert Kreischer]

I saw a drone. A military style drone. Silent drone above, drove it flew right over my car.

[Joe Rogan]

It was silent.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Really?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You made no noise?

[Bert Kreischer]

No noise.

[Joe Rogan]

Did you open the window?

[Bert Kreischer]

The window was. Oh, I was leaning my head out looking up at it, and it was probably 50 yards or less up in the sky, and it flew right over my car. And there were. And I'd sit in my backyard at night and see a lot of weird in the skies.

[Joe Rogan]

What did it look like?

[Bert Kreischer]

That one looked like a military style drone.

[Joe Rogan]

A smaller version that shoots the.

[Bert Kreischer]

The one that was like. It was more like the size of this room end to end. Actually less, probably three quarters of the size of it.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow. And so it looked like the standard military drone, but it was silent.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yep. And it flew right. I was trying to point the cars behind me to look up at it because it was going nuts. Everybody was talking about it. I had coaches who'd seen them over their house. Different ones. Most of them they were seeing were military style ones. But there's a lot of people and a lot of stuff I saw in the sky that didn't look like military stuff.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Mark Norman.

[Bert Kreischer]

And then they weren't saying about it. Yeah, they had some briefing and the Jersey governor comes out and goes, you know, something's going on here. They won't tell us what's going on. They're saying, when I ran off the coast and blah, blah. And then just went. And then Trump said, oh, we know what it is. But nobody ever said what it was.

[Joe Rogan]

And then it stopped.

[Bert Kreischer]

And then.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, and it was.

[Bert Kreischer]

And there's theories. They were looking for some sort of missing missile. And there's this and that. Yeah, that's creepy.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I was really worried about that. You know, the. The transfer of power, like, would have been interrupted if there was some sort of a nuclear explosion. Yeah, like they wouldn't. They. There's ways to.

[Bert Kreischer]

And there are a lot of people Thinking that something might happen.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, that was. Look, they tried to kill him. Somebody tried to kill him twice. And the one. Yeah, but the one that. Where the. The kid on the roof, that one's nuts. And that is you want to be.

[Bert Kreischer]

And that's the thing.

[Joe Rogan]

They can't start with that one.

[Bert Kreischer]

They can't. They can't control. Joe. Concerned citizen aside. And there who's like, hey, there's a guy up there. There's a guy up there. Not only that, 90 seconds before it.

[Joe Rogan]

Happened, they can't control the Internet sleuths that have tracked a phone from outside where the area, the FBI office to this guy's place multiple times back and forth. They can't track how his apartment was professionally scrubbed, where there's no silverware, there's nothing there. No hard drives, no. No laptops. He doesn't have a. He doesn't have social media.

[Bert Kreischer]

And if he doesn't turn his head right 90 degrees or whatever.

[Joe Rogan]

Do you get radicalized without being on social media? I want to know that. Yeah, like how do you even get so politically responsible at 20 years old?

[Bert Kreischer]

So what is it? BlackRock commercial, Billy is a continuance of the MK Ultra stuff?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, for sure. I would think. I don't know. I'm talking on my ass, but if I had a guess, I think you can do that. I think. Listen, for all the conversations that I've had with people that are mind control experts, including earlier this week, Rebecca Lemov, I think not only have they tried to do that since the 1950s, but they've successfully done it to certain people, certain individuals, they've successfully manipulated people. I think they did it with the Manson family. And I don't think that stuff just ends.

[Bert Kreischer]

No, the Chaos book was awesome.

[Joe Rogan]

Incredible, great book.

[Bert Kreischer]

And you had them on here.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I don't think that ended. Why would they end that if it's effective? They would just like be more secretive about it. Just like there's probably super secretive about these propulsion systems. I mean, it's like we want to pretend that the government works for us. We want to pretend like there are representatives, but clearly there's all this money flowing around and all these people that have power and secrecy. And Kennedy railed about it in the 1960s and they shot him in the head.

[Bert Kreischer]

Speaking of that, then they. That whole thing, because that's what got me into questioning things. And then they roll out what, four or five Internet influence people to give them some notebook or some shit. Like they actually release some information about the Kennedy Files. And it's literally a heavily redacted, just pile of nothingness.

[Joe Rogan]

My question about that is, if you're gonna shoot Kennedy, you're not gonna write it down. I don't think we're gonna find anything. I didn't think we're gonna find anything. That's like, we did it. We were in the grassy knoll and we hired these assassins and here's their pay stubs. What I thought it would be is maybe we would find out some information about who Lee Harvey Oswald was actually working for. Maybe we would find out how he was able to defect to Russia and then come back to America. How he got in the school book depository. And nobody, like, they don't do a security run of the area where the Secret Service checks to see where the vulnerabilities would be. They do that kind of stuff. Why would you put him in an open convertible when you have like. Why would you move the motorcycle where people can hide? Yeah, it seems like they killed him.

[Bert Kreischer]

And the Zaprudo, this is a Prudo film.

[Joe Rogan]

So I, I think they killed like somebody asked me this the other night on stage. It was one of those bottom of the barrel questions. Would you. If you could find out who killed JFK or if aliens are real. I'm like, aliens?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Because I'm pretty sure I know who killed jfk. Like, I'm pretty sure our government was involved. And I'm pretty sure there was the mob was probably involved. And I've been a bunch of really.

[Bert Kreischer]

Pissed off guys and the FBI who over hated the Kennedys.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. And then the Bay of Pigs went.

[Bert Kreischer]

Down and Dallas's whereabouts, him getting fired. Dallas's connection.

[Joe Rogan]

Yep.

[Bert Kreischer]

All the way back to the oss, to the Bush family.

[Joe Rogan]

A lot of people wanted JFK dead.

[Bert Kreischer]

A lot of people want that silver standard.

[Joe Rogan]

That to me makes sense. The alien thing makes.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

If the JFK thing was a total mystery still, I would say the alien thing because he's dead. He died in 63. There's nothing you could do about that. I want to know what going on. That's what I want to know. That's my number one thing. I want to know what is going on because I think something's going on. I don't think it's nothing.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think it's coming.

[Joe Rogan]

Some of it is ours, I think some of it is not. And I think we probably have been in contact with things and I think.

[Bert Kreischer]

Since at least the 40s, I think.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Maybe before that.

[Bert Kreischer]

What about one thing we haven't it's slightly related to that, but how about Millie releasing the files in Argentina about Hitler going out there?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Wild. Is that. Is that confirmed that Hitler did go. Lived in our.

[Bert Kreischer]

There's a ton of German Nazi stuff in Argentina.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. Tim Kennedy went down there for a television show called Finding Him.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Joe Rogan]

You go down there, they have Oktoberfest.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

There's towns where they all wear leader hoses and they all speak German.

[Bert Kreischer]

But we also know that there was at least five or six Hitlers. Like, he had multiple body doubles.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, really?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yep.

[Joe Rogan]

Once cranked out a bit, he had that idea. He's sitting there going, I want to find more of me. Can we clone me yet? Don't you guys figure out how to clone me?

[Bert Kreischer]

Hey, Gerals, can we get rid of this cracked out Hitler here? He's. He's making us look bad.

[Joe Rogan]

And who would have ever thought that in 2020, 25, Kanye has it in a song.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh my God.

[Joe Rogan]

We're like, what. What is the next crazy thing that's going to explode in the news is Bill Clinton's gonna have an only fans. Like, what is gonna happen? What is the next thing that's gonna make us all go, what the. Like what the is going on?

[Bert Kreischer]

It's coming.

[Joe Rogan]

You know how many guys were on video saying ain't no party like a Diddy party? How many. How many people like, openly talked about being there?

[Bert Kreischer]

LeBron.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. How. Ashton Kutcher. All these people. Like, you guys all went. You didn't see nothing. You didn't see nothing.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, Donnell.

[Joe Rogan]

Donnell went. Did he? Of course he did.

[Jamie Vernon]

Trying to defend himself.

[Joe Rogan]

Is he really. Is he trying to defend himself right now?

[Jamie Vernon]

It's pretty funny.

[Joe Rogan]

I gotta call him up. Donnell, you gotta back away from that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Isn't there a video with. With Kamala?

[Joe Rogan]

She was at one of the Diddy parties.

[Bert Kreischer]

Isn't he. Isn't she in the background with.

[Joe Rogan]

It might have been the difference between Diddy parties and freak offs. Oh, my God, they're getting too.

[Jamie Vernon]

Because he's sitting in his little.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, the guy from Chappelle Show.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. And then Dave's there too. And then Russell Simmons too. Oh, boy. But is that at a party or is that just a group of them together?

[Jamie Vernon]

They were like on a yacht or something. Something like that.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay, but that's not the Diddy part. No.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, yeah. It's not like they were kind of.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think you think Diddy was rogue or did. He was like Epstein type working for.

[Joe Rogan]

Somebody that's a good question. Well, it would be a great way to comp. To compromise celebrities.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And get them to say whatever you want them to do. Get them to do whatever projects you'd like them to do. And, you know, if you're a bunch of other celebrities are there, you're like, oh, look, Bill Clinton's here. This is fine. Yeah, this is cool. Look at this. Like, Brad Pitt's here. Well, this is cool. You don't even think there's anything wrong with being there. Meanwhile, you're getting drugged up and filmed. And then they're passing out. Punch. Have some punch, Aaron. And you have some punch. And all of a sudden you're like, I'm feeling really good. I just feel amazing. You're all mollied up. You don't know what the fuck you're doing. Probably a combination of things. Things they give you.

[Bert Kreischer]

And it's all being filmed.

[Joe Rogan]

Crazy. Now, if that's not an intelligence agency operation, it's just one evil super genius who figures out how to compromise everybody by providing this crazy freak off party. Everybody's got to put their phones away. Okay, we're gonna put our phone away. No one's gonna know anything. Yeah, I mean, he's gonna get cameras everywhere. It's just one guy doing that. What a diabolical human being. Yeah, he seems pretty diabolical.

[Bert Kreischer]

He's probably working with somebody before.

[Joe Rogan]

Somebody maybe.

[Bert Kreischer]

And maybe he just got too far out there.

[Joe Rogan]

Some of the shit that came out on the trial, though, like, he's forcing his girlfriend to have sex with prostitutes while he was sitting there jacking off with a bandana on. She'd rub the jizz on his nipples. Like, what are we even talking about?

[Bert Kreischer]

But what's he gonna go away for? Like, what's the charge?

[Joe Rogan]

Question, Question.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is it kidnapping or is it.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't think he's even charged beating her up. Like the video of him beating her up. He's not even getting in charge for that. Megyn Kelly said that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Who's got. Who's got all the. All the videos?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Where. What's in the videos? What's that about? I mean, how. What would happen? What would happen?

[Bert Kreischer]

We need Candace to do a deep dive.

[Joe Rogan]

If we got videos up, thousands of celebrities just butt each other and sucking dicks and taking Molly. And guys are passing them around like. Columbus pleaded not guilty to the new superseding indictment, which added two charges to bring the total to five. He's charged with racketeering, conspiracy, transportation to engage in prostitution and sex Trafficking. So he's not being charged with the assault.

[Bert Kreischer]

The sex drive against the.

[Joe Rogan]

But he could get us charged with it in the future. It's not like they can't like charge him with more stuff.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's.

[Joe Rogan]

That's what needs to alleged use threats, forced force and coercion to get victim to engage in sex acts. Once allegedly dangling a victim over an apartment. Bing balcony. According to prosecutors. Jesus Christ.

[Jamie Vernon]

Said he's been poison three times.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay. Ex D bodyguard says witnesses went missing before trial. Said he was poisoned three times. Did you find the cyanide thing?

[Jamie Vernon]

I was trying to read this. I think it's right as you said that.

[Joe Rogan]

Sorry, but if you put it in.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, it's right there. It says it here. I've been poisoned three times. Toxology report showed cyanide.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Whoa. Cyanide metabolizes into pneumonia in your body. So I've had pneumonia on three occasions. He claimed.

[Bert Kreischer]

Big homie.

[Joe Rogan]

Big homie. These problems didn't start for me until I started to speak out about people like this. You know, it's been a hard time to line up this interview because the last time I was scheduled to be in this interview randomly, our car got hit from the side by a blacked out vehicle with no license plate. That happened three times this month. So far, somebody didn't want me to do this interview. Like, holy shit. Whoa. But put it into grok. Cyanide poisoning pneumonia. Because I think it's not just him saying that or this article saying that. I think that's. That's a real thing.

[Bert Kreischer]

Do we like Grok?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's pretty good. I mean, I think all of them are dependent upon the information that's out.

[Bert Kreischer]

So the danger is that people are only like, if I'm on X and there'll be a story. The comments underneath are all saying, is this true at grok?

[Joe Rogan]

Right, right.

[Bert Kreischer]

Or whatever.

[Joe Rogan]

And GROK jumps in.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, but like, who's putting the information into Grok?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, Grok's getting the information from the. The entirety, I believe, of the Internet. And some of the entirety of the Internet is lies. And official lies like that have been accepted as truth by organizations. So that's a problem. Says these are rare and indirect connections. There's no evidence that cyanide itself causes the infectious inflammatory process characteristic of pneumonia. If you are asking about a specific case or context, occupational exposure, a medical scenario or historical incident, feel free to provide more details and I can tailor the answer further. What is the qu. How did you prompt it? Does cyanide poisoning lead to pneumonia?

[Bert Kreischer]

Not directly.

[Joe Rogan]

Could you give someone pneumonia by poisoning them with cyanide? How about that? Could you give someone pneumonia, say about this, Grok? Pneumonia by poisoning them with cyanide.

[Bert Kreischer]

Good spelling, Jamie.

[Joe Rogan]

He's got one hand.

[Bert Kreischer]

No, I was impressed by your pneumonia.

[Joe Rogan]

Double double width. But groko, no, you're dumb. Causing pneumonia. Directly causing pneumonia by poisoning someone with cyanide is unlikely as cyanide doesn't create an infectious or inflammatory condition typically associated with pneumonia. Cyanide poisoning rapidly disrupts cellular oxygen use leading to symptoms like respiratory distress, seizures or unconsciousness. But it doesn't produce pathogens or cause lung inflammation characteristic of pneumonia.

[Bert Kreischer]

They could get hospital acquired pneumonia, it.

[Joe Rogan]

Says there, secondary aspiration pneumonia. If cyanide poisoning causes unconsciousness or seizures, the person might aspirate vomit or saliva into their lungs. This can induce bacteria or irritants potentially leading to the aspiration pneumonia, a non infectious form of the condition. So that's possible. And then secondary complications. The victim survives initial cyanide poisoning but requires prolonged hospitalization, mechanical ventilation or intensive care. Could develop hospital acquired pneumonia or ventilator associated pneumonia due to exposure to pathogens or weakened defenses. That's another darkness about the COVID The ventilator. How many people got killed by ventilators?

[Bert Kreischer]

The percentage is super high.

[Joe Rogan]

People don't want to blew their lungs out. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Bert Kreischer]

I haven't heard any apology about that.

[Joe Rogan]

That's weird. Well, that was. I think that's why they removed Cuomo that in the. The nursing home.

[Bert Kreischer]

He's running again though, isn't he?

[Joe Rogan]

He's gonna be the mayor this time.

[Bert Kreischer]

Mayor. That's what it is. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Maybe it'll be good. Maybe we'll do a good job this time. Maybe he learned his lesson and.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, he's anti establishment now, right? Because the establishment doesn't want him.

[Bert Kreischer]

There was brother as well, supposedly. He's been.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, his brother got kicked off of cnn, so there you go. I mean they're both kind of on, you know, the establishment kind of abandoned.

[Bert Kreischer]

Are they getting red pilled?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know. I don't. You know, it's like when you're. If you're a guy who's on CNN and you're spouting that propaganda for years and then you decide, I'm not not doing that anymore. I'm. I'm. I'm gonna be like you guys. Like really? What about all the stuff you said that's not true? Like all those Times do you own up to it and it doesn't. Right. You saw the Dave Smith debate.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

He doesn't. Doesn't own up to it. He thinks it's more complex, more nuanced.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's like, I thought Dave did great in that. I thought Dave did great when he had the other guy on here.

[Joe Rogan]

Dave's a monster. Yeah. If you, like, people think, oh, he's a comic. You know, He's a little more than that. He's. Yeah. I mean, that guy's a voracious reader, and he retains.

[Bert Kreischer]

The voice of. What's the other guy's name who was on there?

[Joe Rogan]

Douglas.

[Bert Kreischer]

So condescending.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, well, that's one of his gifts. You know, it's like, what was I talking about with Dave? We were talking about. Oh, the Cuomo thing. Yeah. It's like, you gotta be square with people, you know? If you want people to trust you, you have to say that you fucked up.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And if you can't say you fucked up, they're never gonna trust you. If you're always right, they're not gonna believe you. There's no one's always right. And there's a lot of times you get things wrong. We thought you were right. And you can explain why you thought you were right. And then people get it and they go, oh, well, he'll tell the truth. And if you don't do that, you can't do this. Because this is what it's like. Once you've experienced someone that is not being directed to say certain things and is completely open about it and just a human being like you and I, just humans out there in the world trying to make some fucking sense out of this shit. Bullshitters. Won't work. It's not gonna work. You don't resonate. You'll get a certain amount of people that pay attention to you. There's a certain amount.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It'll never really catch on because you're a bullshitter. And you can't be a bullshitter and a truth teller at the same time. I mean, the truth teller is like a fucking. Like, I'm a psychic or I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a clairvoyant. You know, it's like. It sounds like a bullshit phrase.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Truth teller. But you got to decide, am I telling the truth about. Am I looking at this stuff for what I think it really is and sticking my neck out and saying, I think we're wrong. I think we're lied to about virtually Everything. And then this thing that we thought we weren't lied to, turns out we were lied to about that as well. So it's like. It's not like this one thing that they lied about, that everything else has been the truth. No, it's every fucking thing. But yet this one thing is one. It's the holdout. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know, but not this one here.

[Joe Rogan]

Not this. Not this one, not this one.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's why I always say when people are trying to criticize me, go ahead. But just so everybody can put you in the right context, just list your vax status, how many times in vexed. Just so people know what fucking place you're coming.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. Did you get four or five? Did you get. Did you go crazy and get all nine?

[Bert Kreischer]

But that's the thing. If you're not controlled, if you're not controlled, if you're not bought and paid for, if you don't have people, you have to like you. Like if. If. If Spotify was saying, hey, Joe, we love what you're doing. We're gonna give all this money, but you gotta stay in this lane over here, you know, just so we don't upset anybody. But you're not. And that's why people didn't like the fact that you had all these different people on from all walks of life and all sides of the aisles, because there's too much information out there that might influence somebody to think about things a little bit differently. But you're not bought and paid for. You're not controlled.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, not only that, but if I didn't go to Spotify, maybe I would have got pulled from places.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, if I was just independent like I was before and just on YouTube. A lot of people got pulled from YouTube for far less. But I wasn't on YouTube at the time. I was on Spotify when all that shit was going down with Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Malone, when all of those. Those conversations are being taken place and people were freaking out. That was a time where I was only on Spotify.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And that was huge.

[Bert Kreischer]

Thank God.

[Joe Rogan]

That's.

[Bert Kreischer]

People needed to hear that.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Because if you weren't out there doing it, who was gonna fucking do it?

[Joe Rogan]

But that's where I got to give Spotify props. Because they got a lot of pressure. They got a lot of pressure to yank me when. When Neil Young and Joni Mitchell were. I get it. They're old. I get it. They're boomers. They don't get it. They don't know what's going On. I get it. I'm a Neil Young fan. I still listen to his music. I love that guy.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is this stuff back on Spotify?

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

Neil, you caved. You caved.

[Joe Rogan]

Well. Well, also, Neil, maybe apologize because I was right. Yeah, okay. You know, but this. These. I. These people still probably to this day, will tell you that vaccines saved millions of lives. Like, you don't know what you're saying. You've been lied to. You've been lied to. Maybe they saved some lives, but I don't know what the number is. They also cause some problems. There's. This is like reality. We shouldn't look at one part of reality because it suits our narrative. And this is what people are doing. They're just shoving their fucking head in the sand. Like, yeah, for some people, vaccines probably prevented them from getting measles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It seems like they work. It's not like they don't work at all. But also, they cause problems. We should be able to look at all these things.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And that's where you have informed consent. Informed consent is, you know, what the possibilities are. Not that they've been lying to you and gaslighting you so that the doctor gets more incentives.

[Bert Kreischer]

Maybe they have.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. But. I mean, but. But this is the thing, like, you should have. You're able to make entirely on that. Not the influence of a doctor who's incentivized.

[Bert Kreischer]

And you should know, Mr. And Mrs. Who are about to have a child. Just so you know, this doctor gets a kickback should you get the full 72, 75 vaccine schedules.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't think it's really 72. I think it's like, is it 72 actual, or is a bunch of different things mixed together? Like the mmr, they count that as three. You know, it's like one of those things.

[Bert Kreischer]

Okay, well, whatever the number is.25.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, how about the ones.

[Bert Kreischer]

Let's say it's one.

[Joe Rogan]

How about the ones are indefensible, like hep C or hep B? What are you doing? Why would you even do that? If it has side effects and you're giving it to a baby for a.

[Bert Kreischer]

Fucking sex disease on day one, Right? For hep B. Is day one, I believe.

[Joe Rogan]

Crazy. Totally unnecessary and crazy.

[Bert Kreischer]

COVID vaccine crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Totally unnecessary and crazy.

[Bert Kreischer]

72 doses.

[Joe Rogan]

72 doses of 17 vaccines between birth and age 18. Holy shit. Most states mandate children get 29 doses of 9 vaccines to attend kindergarten. And children enrolled in daycare in many states are required to get multiple doses of 13 vaccines.

[Bert Kreischer]

Suzanne was talking about tetanus. The tetanus one is wild.

[Joe Rogan]

It's wild because tetanus is not dangerous. Like, I always thought tetanus is going to kill you. No. If you have an open wound with tetanus, you just wash it out and you won't get tetanus.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What? Like, and then the number of cases of people that got tetanus, like, zero.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like. But they tricked us. When I was a kid, I was like, don't get tetinitis. Get that tetanus shot. I was worried to get a rusty nail. A rusty nail is going to give me a tetanus.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Fucking idiots. They got us. They got us about so many different things, and they got us because of profit. I think this is not a case for socialized medicine. But we wouldn't have this problem if they couldn't profit off of this stuff. If there was like a tight regulatory body that wasn't bought and paid for. Like, when you see, like, people from the FDA going directly to Pfizer or the cdc, oh, this is crazy that you allow.

[Bert Kreischer]

You guys were regulating them and now you're going over and be on the board of that one.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but if we did that and you only had medicine distributed in a way that's going to stop illnesses and fit. Cure diseases like, keep it pure. Who knows where it could have gone?

[Bert Kreischer]

But why is that? Why is that a partisan issue? Issue? It should be. Everybody should be on board with it.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. We want the healthiest kids.

[Bert Kreischer]

We have a. An epidemic of childhood issues.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

And disease. Bobby talks about all the time. It's all over the.

[Joe Rogan]

The richest country and the sickest country. Makes no sense.

[Bert Kreischer]

And now we're 1 in 12 in California with autism. And, and, and, and don't even start talking about vaccines.

[Joe Rogan]

And there's things that we could point to that are going to cause that, and we're aware of them. And people don't want to hear it. They don't want to hear it.

[Bert Kreischer]

They don't want to know is you're about to have a kid and you have an 8.3% chance in California of your kid getting autism. And all you're going to potentially open your mind to is there might be some environmental factors.

[Joe Rogan]

It used to be 1 in 10,000.

[Bert Kreischer]

How about let's fucking look at the food. Let's look at the environmentalists for sure. Let's look at the fucking vaccines.

[Joe Rogan]

We were talking the other day about golf courses, cases that they're finding out if you live within a mile of a golf course. You have a high likelihood of getting Parkinson's. Like by 100 and something percent. More chemicals because of the chemicals, because the glyphosate, because you're spraying all this all over the.

[Bert Kreischer]

How about banning, you know, GMO products?

[Jamie Vernon]

Contradiction.

[Joe Rogan]

I found the tetanus.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Just reading.

[Joe Rogan]

2022, 267 cases and 13 deaths from tetanus were reported.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's a small number, I would say.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, at all the people that stepped on nails. Thirteen deaths. But how many of them could have been prevented if they just had the. The wound cleaned like Suzanne Humphries was saying.

[Jamie Vernon]

The same website, CDC website says 1 in 10 in the United States are fatal.

[Joe Rogan]

Whoa.

[Jamie Vernon]

Which is. That's. That number would be way higher if that would be 200, you know, that's.

[Bert Kreischer]

1 in 20 there.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Over a 10 year period.

[Joe Rogan]

Still, that's crazy. Who says that? The CDC. I don't trust them. Get your shot. Get your shot. Aaron. You need the tetanus.

[Bert Kreischer]

What are you afraid of? You afraid of needles?

[Joe Rogan]

If Suzanne is correct, and I believe she is, then it's not the thing that we're so fucking terrified of. I don't want to get it, don't get me wrong, but what's the side effects of the vaccine? Is there any. Is it possible that some people get them side effects and some people don't like every other fucking drug there is. Why are you lying about the side effects of this one drug? And how come you don't have any responsibility, no legal responsibility? If you.

[Bert Kreischer]

Zero. That's zero accountability. Zero.

[Joe Rogan]

But you can't give any company that kind of leeway because they're especially a massive for profit company that makes fucking hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars. You can't give them that kind of ability because they're just going to figure out a way to make more money. That's what their job is. Your job is to regulate them to make sure that they don't give us stuff that kills us. Their job is to make the most money they can make within the boundaries. So if they're paying you to dissolve those boundaries and have this revolving door where the people that run these agencies go right into the pharmaceutical drug companies, the people that make the fucking laws and reinforce them know that they're gonna get a cushy golden parachute. They're already counting on that fucking a.m.G. s class. They're already thinking about that vacation home they're gonna buy with all that farmer. They're gonna. They're parachuting into a lovely mansion. And you can't give that, you can't give that to people that are getting a fucking civil servant salary. You can't dangle that golden carrot and not to expect it have some sort of an effect on the global health of the fucking whole world.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You can't let them go wild. You gotta. They're gonna make plenty of money. Just keep them inside the. What's actually good. Because there's a lot of stuff they make that's actually good.

[Bert Kreischer]

Take them off the airways, see what happens.

[Joe Rogan]

Bunch of guys out there running around with boners who wouldn't have them if it wasn't for the pharmaceutical drug company. I heard they're about to fix hair loss. Look, there's some stuff that's good, but you gotta have regulation. You gotta have someone who's like saying this is only what's good, not just for profit. And I don't know if socialized medicine fixes that because everybody that I talked to that's in England and everybody.

[Bert Kreischer]

Australia, terrible.

[Joe Rogan]

Takes forever to get fixed. Takes forever to get a scan. If you think something might be wrong, you might have cancer, it's forever.

[Bert Kreischer]

Break a bone and you can't get a scan for eight weeks.

[Joe Rogan]

My friend Jen, she blew her ACL out. Shout out to the rivets. My friends up in Alberta, she blew her knee out and she couldn't get a operation for a year. She had a wall. She's a bear hunting guide. Okay, so she's got a Hardy People bro.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay. She's got a giant ACL brace. Spraying the giant brace, the hard one on the outside, the ones you Velcro down.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

For a year, hoofing it, carrying out into the woods, riding on four by fours and these dirt tracks where grizzly bears are. Because she couldn't get a ACL fixed. And then when they got. They fixed it, they did a shitty job. Like it wasn't. It didn't. She can't fully extend her knee, she can't fully lock it out. And she's had it broken down, she went under. But they, they try to break it down through like horrible manipulation that you wouldn't be able to tolerate. So they put you out.

[Bert Kreischer]

And still socialized medicine is not the answer.

[Joe Rogan]

Listen, incentivize medicine is good because it incentivizes doctors to be bad motherfuckers. Like if, if I want to get a knee operation, I want that dude who fixes the Lakers. I want that guy who drives a Mercedes.

[Bert Kreischer]

He's the best.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, dog. When you got your, your Achilles fixed.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. You don't want socialized medicine. You want the Mac Daddy. You want a. With a Rolex on.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. You want that guy who makes plenty of money and likes the fact that he's the best at what he does. He's gonna fit innovates. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Tries things.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And studies his craft.

[Joe Rogan]

You want all those doctors that take care of pro athletes.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You don't want socialized medicine if go sideways. You want bad. If you, if you have a, some sort of a neurological disorder. You want that guy who's this groundbreaking research scientist and a doctor who's putting all this stuff together to try to figure out we got to be able to fix Parkinson's. And we're close. We're real close. Like they're that close. You want that guy. You want a guy who's incentivized. You want someone who knows if they come up with a drug that's going to cure a disease, it's going to make millions and millions of dollars.

[Bert Kreischer]

But you know what happens, and I figured it out during the last year when I've, you know, been in the weeds with these people who are close to me that have cancer is that innovation is not. Is frowned upon and alternative ways of dealing with cancer frowned upon. And people who are doing it are getting fucking raided and, and lawsuits and shut down. You got to be real, real quiet if you, if you're helping people on down low because that's one of their money makers.

[Joe Rogan]

I know a well established doctor in Texas, a rock solid credentials, like, handles a lot of like very high level people. Like a concierge practice that got almost shut down because they were prescribing ivermectin during COVID Like had to fight it in court. It was a battle.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's what happens when you actually heal people. You become a pariah.

[Joe Rogan]

No problems at any other point in the career, zero problems. And all of a sudden this one thing and you're on the verge of getting shut down for being a kook. You're taking care of billionaires. Billionaires.

[Bert Kreischer]

When I called you during COVID and after you got in Covet and kind of wrote down your protocol.

[Joe Rogan]

I put my stethoscope on when I got on the phone.

[Bert Kreischer]

I appreciate that, Dr. Rogan.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Put my oath lab coat on.

[Bert Kreischer]

When I looked for, for pharmacies that would prescribe hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin, it was one pharmacy in Wisconsin. That was crazy. On the down low because. Wow. It was like you were gonna get shut down.

[Joe Rogan]

Isn't that crazy?

[Bert Kreischer]

And. And rated. And lucky enough, I had the right connections, got the stuff, and in 48 hours, I was perfect, you know, science denier. And they hated it.

[Joe Rogan]

You're a science denial.

[Bert Kreischer]

I am.

[Joe Rogan]

I know. People were telling. Like, when people found out I was friends with you, like you're friends with him. God, he believes some crazy things. I go, what does he believe that's crazy? Nothing. They got nothing. No one's got nothing. They all.

[Bert Kreischer]

They were told. They were told he's a crazy kook. Really? Why? Yeah, well, you know, the COVID thing.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, right. Like. Yeah, like me. You mean the same thing? Well, no, no, you. You took a bunch of. You took the monoclonal antibodies as well, because they were available. Yeah, so did I. Yeah, yeah, they were. They worked.

[Bert Kreischer]

And, yeah, I was giving them by somebody who said I would lose my medical license if they knew this, so don't tell anybody.

[Joe Rogan]

By the way, they got unavailable real quick because people realize, like, you don't have to get the vaccine. You get the monoclonal antibodies, you just get cured, and you get all the natural benefits of a natural infection, which are seven times better. The whole thing was so weird to go through, but why are you still.

[Bert Kreischer]

Talking about it, Joe?

[Joe Rogan]

I know.

[Bert Kreischer]

Why do you still care? Well, maybe because nobody fucking apologized. Well, everybody just wants to change history.

[Joe Rogan]

What's important is not that we keep bitching about what happened to us during COVID because I think we definitely have talked about that too much, but that people recognize that this is a pattern and that exists in every aspect of the narrative that you're being fed on television about all the foreign wars, about the banking system, about everything. Everything you can imagine. Every bill that gets passed that has a bunch of crazy stuff inside of it. The open borders. Why were they allowing people to just come in? Why were they paying people, giving them money, and why are they moving them to swing states? Everything you've been told about everything is bullshit. Everything. Everything in the news is bullshit. You. If you really want to find out the actual information, you have to bypass all the commentary on all the mainstream television shows there. It's all nonsense. And you have to listen to people like Glenn Greenwald. You have to find the Matt Taibbi. Yeah. You have to find the Michael Shellenbergers. You have to find the people out there that are the. Just talking to you about the actual information from a completely nonpartisan, unbiased Perspective.

[Bert Kreischer]

I mean, I've said this before, but think about where we would be if Elon hadn't bought Twitter.

[Joe Rogan]

And we'd be fucked. We'd be fucked. Yeah, we'd all be really fucked. And I don't think people realize that because Kanye's got a Heil Hitler song on there right now. People are mad that I said I was catchy. Listen, I don't support it. I don't think it's a good thing to do. To tell me that it's not a catchy riff is like, you're crazy. It's a terrible thing to say. Absolutely. It's like. But I firmly believe that you should let people say terrible things, and then people should decide with. In the marketplace of ideas, both with their willingness to go see him, live and support him, and with the rightful criticism that you're gonna get from everybody who hears it and has something to say about it. And I think all that is how you figure out what you should and shouldn't say as a human. You know, I think you should never say some of the things he said about Jews, because you're talking about everybody. You're talking about all these different human beings. And to say that they're all the same is crazy. We don't want that with Asian people. We don't want that with white people. We don't want that with black people. We don't want that with anything. Whenever you're just like all these people when you say it's this. But you also should be allowed to criticize if members of a certain community have taken over your business. And if you criticize them, you will get debanked. And if you criticize them, I don't care if it's Jews or Democrats or Republicans. If Republicans are doing that, you start criticizing Republicans, you get debanked. You should be able to talk about anything. You shouldn't be excluded from talking about things just because these people are of a particular class or particular religious persuasion or a particular nationality. You should be able to talk and criticize everything. And, you know, from talking to Marc Andreessen and learning about debanking, that's where it got so dark. Because it was just people that were right wing that were involved in a lot of these startups and a lot of these things. And he said, saw them get debanked just for supporting political candidates, becoming a public person, that's a problem. And they got debanked. Like, you can't bank here anymore. We don't like how you think about things that's crazy. And that incentivizes people to shut the up, keep their mouth shut, maybe even support political candidates you don't believe in. Like, it's, that's like modified.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's a modified social credit.

[Joe Rogan]

It is. It's scary, man. When we allow shit like that, that's fucking scary. But it should be scary. You want some of that? Yeah, get in there, my man. That should be the same for Republicans as it is for Democrats. We should be terrified if the Republicans start doing shit like that. We should be terrified.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's why all corruption should be exposed. Doesn't matter if it's right or left. If. If you got Republicans and Democrats, all the Pelosi machine.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Dominating the stock market. Shut them all down. That's illegal. That's corrupt.

[Joe Rogan]

If you found out that people donated to Gavin Newsome so you take away their bank account, you know, crazy that would be. But you know how crazy that would be if the Republicans started doing that?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

No, you got to have. You got to take your money out of here, man. You got to go to the bank of Croatia or some. You got to go to some foreign country or something. 100%.

[Bert Kreischer]

And that's, that's why we've gotten so idealistic with our politics. It's like, oh, only if it's the other side.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's like, what about corruption's corruption? What about fraud is fraud? What about. Yeah, shitty stuff. Evil is evil.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. And because Elon is a part of the Doge and they've successfully demonized Elon, you know, then anything that gets cut is like an affront to democracy. Anything that gets removed, despite the fact that things like the Department of Education, from the time that it was invented to today, where we were before I was invented, we were number one in the world with education or at least in the top two or three. What were we when they created the Department of Education? And what. What were we as of 2024?

[Bert Kreischer]

Down pretty far.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, we're not, we're not anywhere near number one anymore. So it's not an effective department. So if the department if giving the power to states and allowing states to implement common sense strategies to increase children's scores and to give them the freedom to do that and to innovate, I think is a good thing. I think it's the competition of the marketplace of ideas. And if you find out that this place has a legitimately excellent school system, you're going to want to go to that place. Yeah. And that's going to encourage commerce. That's going to encourage the growth of businesses like this is. These are all.

[Bert Kreischer]

What it does, is it turns it back into a meritocracy.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

Which is what we need.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. But we also have to address as a community, as a country, and you know, this is something that never gets talked about enough. There's places that are fucked and they're not going to unfuck themselves. And if you're talking about Baltimore or south side of Chicago or any of these cities that have experienced the exact same environment for generation after generation of crime and poverty, that needs to be addressed. And that's the only way we fix the crime problem in this country. It has to be fixed from like a children level. We have to stop children from growing up in these horrendous environments, Improve these environments, Give them a chance. And you have all these exceptional human beings that can come out of that.

[Bert Kreischer]

And that's what I don't agree with the right side.

[Joe Rogan]

That's exactly what I don't agree with on the right.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like people that are against welfare or against social safety nets. I am for all that shit. But I'm also for guidance and mentorship and examples of how to live a life that's full of meaning and accomplishment. And anybody can do that. Anybody could do that. If you can get an education, if you can get job, if you can get out there in the world, and if you have a fucking chance of not getting indoctrinated into a fucking gang and you're not forced to. To sell drugs, you don't get murdered when you're 15. That's what we have to stop. Because this is like we have untapped potential of human beings that are just being poisoned by an environment that's never going to change. And if we don't look at it that way. You want to make America great again? Have less losers?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

The way to have less losers is give more people opportunities. It doesn't mean take away opportunities from white people. That's a stupid way of approaching it. Yeah. Like stopping white men while we have too many straight white men. Like, that's crazy to say we have too many. Anything. Just give more opportunities to other people by boosting them up from the part that's fucked. The part that's is the neighborhood that they grow up in.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

That needs to be addressed.

[Bert Kreischer]

And the right doesn't want to address it.

[Joe Rogan]

Exactly.

[Bert Kreischer]

But like Thomas Sewell said, it hasn't worked. Just electing all Democrat candidates. What have they actually done? How have they made it better in the Last since the civil rights.

[Joe Rogan]

Too many grifters, too many people on the take. Too many people just using those, all those political platitudes and all of those beautiful ideas about, you know, equity, all that shit. They're just lining their pockets, folks. And things aren't getting better.

[Bert Kreischer]

No, not at all.

[Joe Rogan]

The solution is the same solution that's everywhere. Like make it profitable. That can be done. Like you, we got these no bid contracts that Halliburton got to fix Iraq after we blew the out of it. And you can't have contracts for companies to profit off of going into these inner cities and providing mentorship and making more of a responsible police presence. And then maybe some places where people can detox safely medically, maybe some education, maybe provide them with nutrition, give people job skills, figure out a way like, and everyone's, it's not going to work with everyone. You're going to have a bunch of people that don't want to do it, they don't want to change, but there's going to be a bunch of people that are looking for something and you're going to give them that something. And now you've got a winner. Now you've got someone who develops an education. They have good mentors around them, they got people that are showing them there's other ways to live life. If there's a concerted effort to do that, you've got massive amounts of potential. That's just by their environment.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yep. Yeah. I mean if you just do it once, then you have a something to look to look to. There's your mentor. Yeah, there's your. That's what I want to be when I grow up.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

I want to get out and do this.

[Joe Rogan]

Which is the inherent problem with racism and the problem with all these videos that you see of black people doing wild things online. It's like, yeah, you're looking at that but you're also not looking at the environment. And these people are forced to get exist in. And what would you be like if you were in that environment? You'd be the same way. We'd all be the same way.

[Bert Kreischer]

The constant gentrification of those areas isn't helping.

[Joe Rogan]

It's not helping. Just making them more concentrated. And the haves and the have nots of the world have never been, it's never been like a further divide. And I'm real scared about AI and automation because I think everybody's pretty much universally in agreement. There's going to come a point in time where some sort of a universal basic income is required. And you know, I think that's probably true. And Andrew Yang talked about that long time ago.

[Bert Kreischer]

Bad thing though, I don't think.

[Joe Rogan]

But when you're totally dependent on the state. Yeah, Totally dependent. And you don't have any meaning anymore because like, what are you doing? You're just waiting for your check all day. There's going to be people that decide that's not enough for them and they're gonna. There's always gonna be people that are go getters. There's always going to be people in this world that want more. And they have a drive for ambit. They have an ambition, they have a drive for success. There's always going to be people like that. But there's a lot of people that could be like that. But they could get lured into complacency if they just get money every month and they don't wind up doing shit. They waste their life and they never really. They never really develop character. They never really define themselves by things that they didn't think they could do but pulled off and realized that they can ask more of themselves. And it's very satisfying to do that. They didn't learn those lessons that you clearly learned and that I learned. And a lot of people listening to this learned, you're going to be dependent on this. And if the government turns tyrannical, which it got slippery during COVID man. Got real slippery. Got real slippery. And so now they know they can kind of pull that off. All they need is like to be more sophisticated about it. You can't get the same guy that you had during the 80s crisis, have a new guy and make sure that he knows that masks don't work. Because eventually they're going to figure out masks don't work. We have them on video saying that masks work. You know, what is this? Six foot? How did you figure that out? Don't say that. Don't say that.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's just random. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, they'll be more sophisticated about it next time.

[Bert Kreischer]

Good luck.

[Joe Rogan]

But we have to be careful. We have to be careful because they're always going to want to do something like that. And that's just what they do. You know, you play football. I talk shit. That's what they do. They control people and that's what.

[Bert Kreischer]

And they're really, really good at it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. And we're also. They do it under the guise that they are working for us. You know, government by the people for the people. But it's like that Osho line, but the people are retarded Never see that. Oh, let's close with that. Let's close that.

[Jamie Vernon]

I'll say, speaking of that, that I think this is a fake.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, what happened?

[Jamie Vernon]

I don't know that this is the original source, but I found this one looking for this information.

[Joe Rogan]

It says in 1979 we were ranked number one in the world. At the time, after 40 years of government run education, we have fallen to number 24. What is the real number? So.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, I can't find anywhere that this is even accurate.

[Joe Rogan]

He made it up.

[Jamie Vernon]

I went to this guy's Twitter account.

[Joe Rogan]

Is he a real guy?

[Jamie Vernon]

That's not even his Twitter account.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he's a fake guy.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's a different person that's trying to account.

[Joe Rogan]

China Goddess.

[Jamie Vernon]

But then this information has been debunked a few places. They weren't even.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, Elon posted it.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, Elon reposted a version of it. That's kind of what happened right here.

[Joe Rogan]

Elon posted it. Isn't that funny?

[Bert Kreischer]

Jimmy Carter.

[Joe Rogan]

Not exactly. Great value for the money. How does he have the time to tweet so much? I just don't understand that. That blows me.

[Bert Kreischer]

And play video games.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it blows me away.

[Bert Kreischer]

He's an expert gamer. Or he pays people.

[Joe Rogan]

Allegedly, people game for him, which is. Here we go, here we go.

[Bert Kreischer]

Democracy basically means.

[Joe Rogan]

Government by the people.

[Bert Kreischer]

Of the people, for the people.

[Joe Rogan]

But the people are retarded. He nailed it.

[Bert Kreischer]

And you can say that again.

[Joe Rogan]

He nailed it. All right. I love you, brother. Thanks for being here, man. It was always, always fun to talk to you guys. All right, goodbye, everybody.