#2431 - Shane Gillis

Summary

The Joe Rogan Experience #2431 – Shane Gillis

Date: December 25, 2025
Host: Joe Rogan
Guest: Shane Gillis

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Joe Rogan Experience features comedian Shane Gillis in a lively, sprawling conversation with Joe Rogan and producer Jamie. The discussion meanders through topics like the absurdities of fame, health and aging, stand-up comedy, combat sports, politics, conspiracies, and the complexities of modern society. True to its reputation, the tone is irreverent, self-deprecating, and candid, with both hosts engaging in comedic riffing, storytelling, and thought-provoking banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Life as a Successful but Aging Comedian

• Transitioning Perspectives on Health and Aging:
  Joe and Shane, both accomplished comedians, discuss how their approach to health and life has shifted over the years.
  • Joe admits, “I'm too interested in health. I do too much to stay healthy. I'm getting old, dude.” (01:37)
  • Both joke about the loneliness of solo drinking as friends get older and move through life changes.
• Dealing with Sleep Apnea and Aging:
  The conversation turns to the prevalence of sleep apnea among men, especially those leading unhealthy lifestyles or with “big necks.”
  • Joe: “I have to wear a mouthpiece every night. I found a great pillow, too.” (03:37)
  • Both share the humor and hassle of solutions like CPAP machines and mouthpieces in relationships.
• On Getting Older:
  Joe reflects: "When was the last time you saw a really fit 78 year old guy? 78 years for me is not that far." (01:56)
  • Shane jokes about his own age, and they riff on mortality and the need to "not let it get away from you." (02:43)

Stand-up Comedy, Awkward Encounters, and Comedy Heroes

• Relatable tales about early awkwardness when meeting comedy idols, like Dave Attell and Jon Stewart.
  • Shane: “Attell got me with a terrible one...Can I get one of those cigarettes? He was like, ‘No.’ He just walked right back inside.” (19:18)
  • Joe: “That haunted me for years—knocking that stupid...I don’t even remember what it was I knocked over.”(24:13)
• The behind-the-scenes camaraderie, competitiveness, and humility among comics is a major sub-theme.
• Nostalgic stories about opening for famous comedians and sending embarrassing emails, which get read aloud years later ("How does he still have the same email account?" - Shane, 23:21).

Health, Weight, and the Comedy Community

• Discussion about drastic health changes among celebrities (e.g., Jelly Roll's weight loss).
• Anecdotes about sleep apnea risks in football players and how health issues are usually preventable.
• Shane gets blood work done, convinced he’ll have diabetes, but is surprised when the results are fine. (29:03)

UFC, Boxing, and Gender in Combat Sports

• Candid conversation about men vs. women in combat sports ("The difference between a man and a woman is so big, even like a strong woman like Amanda Nunes should probably knock out most dudes, but she's not sparring a guy her weight that's gonna go full blast." – Joe, 12:49).
• Riffing on how hard some women can punch, and what it's like to lose an argument—or worse, a fight—to a tough girlfriend.
• Discussion of dangerous mismatches in “stunt” fights and the exploitative side of viral fight videos (13:11–15:35).
• Anticipation over the Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua fight (31:46–35:02).
  • Joe: “He’s one of the best heavyweight boxers alive, and Jake Paul is a guy that is...very impressive for a guy beating up Ben Askren and knocking out Tyron Woodley. But there’s levels.” (33:48)

Schizophrenia, Conspiracies, and Comedic Characters

• Playful exploration of mental illness among comedians and the trope of "conspiracy encyclopedias" like Kurt Metzger.
  • “Dude, bro, [Metzger] is an encyclopedia of conspiracies. Yeah, you just draw. Go back to, 'Remember that thing in the 70s?' 'Oh yeah, yeah.'” – Joe (17:26)
• Shane tells embarrassing stories about being awkward in the presence of comedy legends and trying too hard to bond.

Social Dynamics, Fame, and the Awkwardness of Recognition

• Both reflect on how meeting famous people—athletes especially—can reduce them to nervous fans, despite their own status.
  • Shane: “Aaron Judge from the Yankees got me...I was full panic in that.” (26:43)
• The oddity of becoming peers with people you initially idolized, and learning how the dynamic changes over time.

Health Trends, Diets, and Drinking Culture

• A humorous look at the “one meal a day” experiment, vitamin regimens, and the unique culture of drinking in the stand-up scene.
• Shane on his diet: “If I had a little bit of fruit, I'd be like, I'm...the beacon of health. Crazy. I had fruit today.” (28:37)
• The myth (joked about) of toughened livers from repeated, but moderate, alcohol use:
  • Joe: “A little bit of whiskey, a little bit of booze...your liver's jacked...like a marathon runner, right?” (30:00)

UFC, Trash Talk, and Media Moments

• Debating which fighters have the best “mic skills”:
  • “Chael Sonnen mastered it.” – Joe (40:03)
  • "McGregor took shit talking to a whole new level." – Shane (40:33)
• The role of humor and “promo” in building personalities and events in MMA.

Trump, Presidency, and White House Antics

• The latest White House controversy: Trump’s proposed plaques beneath presidential portraits, trashing predecessors in personalized language.
  • “Sleepy Joe Biden was by far the worst president in American history...His green new scam surrendered American energy dominance.” – Joe reads the alleged plaque text (43:13)
• Both hosts lampoon the narcissism and absurdity of trying to shape history through interpretive plaques.
• Broader concerns about setting precedents for future presidents and the polarization of political messaging.

Immigration, Campus Politics, and Free Speech

• Discussion about students being deported or arrested for activism or controversial speech, including the case of a Tufts University student allegedly targeted after criticizing Israel (63:52–68:13).
• Exploring the boundaries of free speech, who gets to stay in the U.S., and selective enforcement.
• Sean critiques: “Like, what, what can get you kicked out of a country that is the most pro free speech country on planet Earth?” (65:39)

U.S. Elections, Voting Integrity, and Conspiracies

• Extended conversation about voting irregularities in Georgia, prompted by rumors of missing poll worker signatures on ballots.
  • “315,000 early votes lack the poll workers’ signatures...Trump lost to Biden in Georgia by, I think it was 11,000 votes.” – Joe (71:31)
• Satirical riffing about partisanship, the endless cycle of claims and denials, and frustrations with finding clarity in modern media.

Social Media, Censorship, and Information Bubbles

• Australia’s under-16 social media ban, with the exception of left-leaning Blue Sky, becomes the subject of their critique.
  • “Blue Sky...is just Twitter but for super hardcore lefties, is not included in the ban.” – Joe (81:34)
• The difficulties of moderating platforms, the role of Reddit for porn after bans, and kids easily circumventing restrictions using VPNs.

Sexuality, Animal Oddities, and Comedic Tangents

• In true Rogan fashion, the conversation turns wild:
  • The story of a researcher allegedly having to masturbate dolphins for science (85:11–86:13).
  • Dolphins’ promiscuity and infanticide, quirky animal facts, and riffing on “are female dolphins sluts?” (87:47–89:48)
• Jokes about animal mating, evolutionary psychology, and animal weirdness as fodder for humor and philosophical musings.

War, American History, and Documentary Rabbit Holes

• The hosts indulge their love of history, sharing Civil War and World War anecdotes, reflecting on historical battles, and discussing the impact of weapon technology.
• Joe and Shane consider the psychological aftermath of major wars, the patriotic fervor of the 1940s–50s, and Ken Burns’s ability to make even seemingly boring topics irresistible.
  • “Ken Burns rules...He takes topics that you would go, I’m never gonna watch that.” – Shane (113:58)

Science, Technology, and Paranoia

• Rogan delves into the story of Fritz Haber, the scientist who both revolutionized agriculture with nitrogen fertilizer and enabled mass death with Zyklon gas.
• The hosts flirt with UFO lore, secret fusion technology, and conspiracy theories about the military-industrial complex’s true priorities.
• Joking yet unnerved discussion of “instantaneous nuclear payload delivery system” and how war drives technological advances (141:01–143:31).

Conspiracy Culture & Media Misinformation

• Debate over the prevalence and plausibility of “crisis actors” in American tragedies or false-flag operations.
• Satirical skepticism over governmental and media narratives, while acknowledging that confusion and chaos often rule after significant events.

Urban Decay, Homelessness, and Societal Decline

• Comparing Skid Row in LA to Philadelphia’s Kensington and Allegheny, Shane and Joe lament America’s inability to address homelessness, addiction, and mental health.
  • “It's a real crazy issue and no one can come up with a solution.” – Shane (177:35)

Light-hearted Conclusions and Upcoming Fights

• The episode winds down with predictions for Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua (“It’s just crazy that he wanted to do it. That Jake Paul wanted to fight Anthony Joshua.” – Joe, 152:40), roast-like banter, and a shared affection for the simple joys of sports, old friends, and stand-up comedy.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the realities of fame and aging:
  “The more successful he gets, the more dangerous it is...You can’t pretend you’re this anonymous backpacker anymore.” – Joe (00:28)
• Comedic wisdom:
  “I know it’s a little more sad. I’ve had a few drinks. I had a whiskey before a show recently....But the days of like drinking at nights—gone.” – Joe (01:21)
• On health, sleep, and sudden death:
  “You just choke. You stop breathing and that’s it. It’s a wrap. Probably didn’t hurt at all. You probably just go in your sleep.” – Joe (04:46)
• Reflections on meeting idols and becoming peers:
  “You see someone that you’ve seen on TV, like, when you’re young, it’s weird.” – Joe (25:34)
• On presidential egotism:
  “Sleepy Joe Biden was by far the worst president in American history...His policies caused the highest inflation ever recorded.” – (Reading faux Trump plaque, 43:13)
• On the boundaries of political discourse in America:
  “What can get you kicked out of a country that is the most pro free speech country on planet Earth?” – Joe (65:39)
• Riffing about animal science and sexuality:
  “The thing was, they found out that she had to jack the dolphin off. If she didn’t jack the dolphin off, the dolphin would not pay attention.” – Joe (85:25)
• Satirical take on internet restrictions:
  “Blue Sky...is just Twitter but for super hardcore lefties, is not included in the ban.” – Joe (81:34)
• On war trauma and American patriotism:
  “How about what those people come back from watching their buddies getting eaten by wolves over in...For some reason, you’re in Europe.” – Joe (136:48)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Life, drinking, and aging: 00:20–03:00
• Comedy awkwardness and meeting heroes: 19:10–26:33
• Health check-ups, vitamins, and diets: 28:10–29:56
• Combat sports, gender, and fighting physics: 12:44–15:35
• Trump plaques & White House controversies: 42:56–46:41
• Implications of free speech and deportation cases: 63:52–68:10
• Georgia election signatures and legal confusion: 71:15–79:50
• Australian social media ban discussion: 81:04–82:31
• Masturbating dolphins & animal sex habits: 85:11–91:20
• Ken Burns documentary appreciation: 113:58–115:06
• Fritz Haber, chemicals, and moral ambiguity in science: 139:08–140:44

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Tone and Atmosphere

Gillis and Rogan bounce between serious and silly, the intellectual and the juvenile, as they riff freely on everything from historical battles to modern political absurdity. Both are self-aware, often mocking their own lack of expertise or the insanity of modern life. There’s an undercurrent of nostalgia for simpler times, but also a trenchant skepticism toward institutional power—be it Hollywood, Washington, or the scientific establishment. The banter is fast, foul-mouthed, and full of comedic chemistry.

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For Listeners New to the Podcast

This episode encapsulates what makes The Joe Rogan Experience so enduring: you get a mix of humor, insight, weird facts, personal stories, and sharp critique of cultural and political norms. There’s no central agenda—just friends following conversational tangents to wherever they lead. Whether you came for the comedy, the fight talk, the conspiracies, or the cultural critique, you’ll find something compelling and plenty that’s laugh-out-loud funny.

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Transcript

[Shane Gillis]

Joe Rogan podcast.

[Jamie]

Check it out.

[Joe Rogan]

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. He's having a good old time. I'm sure he loves doing that.

[Shane Gillis]

Just wish it didn't piss me off.

[Joe Rogan]

It pisses you off that he just checks out? What pisses you off? I love it. I love that he does it.

[Shane Gillis]

No, it's just art. It's fun to.

[Joe Rogan]

But it's like the more successful he gets, the more dangerous it is. Like, people know who you are, dude. You've been seen by millions of people. You can't pretend you're this like anonymous backpacker anymore. You fucking weirdo.

[Shane Gillis]

He comes back. My favorite was a couple years earlier. Like when he came back from Peru. We were doing Legion of Skanks and he was like in the crowd and thought it was gonna be like a big surprise that he's back. He like came back and we were like, oh, what's up? Ari's here. What are you talking about? You haven't seen me in so long. It's like I don't see any of my friends.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, you were saying everybody every six months.

[Shane Gillis]

I forgot you left.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. I only see Norman every six months. Maybe. Maybe a little more when we. We get popping with protect our parts.

[Shane Gillis]

It's not the same without them.

[Joe Rogan]

I know it's not.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm still gonna get drunk, but it's.

[Joe Rogan]

A little sad though.

[Shane Gillis]

It's a little more pathetic. I'm drinking by myself.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a little more sad. I've had a few drinks. I had a whiskey before a show recently. I had a couple glasses of wine with dinner the other day, but it's the most I've had is two. But the days of like drinking at nights.

[Shane Gillis]

I thought I had you last time we had the mother.

[Joe Rogan]

The problem is health. I'm too interested in health. I know. That's the problem. It's like the price you pay is legitimate and I'm too interested in health. I do too much to stay healthy.

[Shane Gillis]

You work too hard to.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm getting old, dude.

[Jamie]

Right?

[Joe Rogan]

I'm 58. The. The reality is, like, when was the last time you saw a really fit 78 year old guy? 78 years for me is not that far. Trump.

[Shane Gillis]

Trump's jacked, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

That's 2005. Okay, 2005. When I was still doing Fear Factor. That's 20 years ago. That's nothing. That's like that time just flies by all of a sudden.

[Shane Gillis]

You're still my age.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, exactly.

[Shane Gillis]

Damn.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Exactly how old are you now?

[Shane Gillis]

I just turned 38.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, see? So think of that. Yeah, that's 20 years difference. You to me is 20 years, but me to like a dead guy is 20 years. 78 year old guys.

[Shane Gillis]

The difference.

[Joe Rogan]

So I've been consciously thinking about that. Like, don't let it get away from you. That's the thing. Don't let it get away from you. Like, look at jelly roll.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Insane. Incredible.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

That dude just added decades onto his life.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, for sure. He was.

[Joe Rogan]

He was on his way out.

[Shane Gillis]

He was close.

[Joe Rogan]

He was on his way out.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

4,500.

[Shane Gillis]

Same talent.

[Joe Rogan]

£40.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, same talent.

[Joe Rogan]

Dropped it too, did he?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

How much did he drop?

[Shane Gillis]

Fucking tonight.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, no, I haven't seen him.

[Shane Gillis]

Well, I think he did. I don't want to speak for. I think he took one of the things. Like a zombie.

[Joe Rogan]

Fine, man. And I was like, whatever you need to do, bro.

[Shane Gillis]

Just what are you doing? And he was like, I was going to die. I was like, all right, fair. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You get too big. And then he probably has sleep apnea, so he ain't getting any sleep. So at night he's choking, you know, and you're lying in bed in these weird hotel rooms.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. And I'm going out from Sleep Avenue for sure.

[Joe Rogan]

Bro. Bro. I have to wear a mouthpiece every night. Yeah, wear a mouthpiece every night. I found a great pillow, too.

[Shane Gillis]

You think it hurts to die from sleep apnea?

[Joe Rogan]

No, you just choke. You stop breathing and that's it. It's a wrap. Probably didn't hurt at all. You probably just go in your sleep.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. So.

[Joe Rogan]

What the.

[Shane Gillis]

I.

[Joe Rogan]

It's not the. One of the worst ways.

[Shane Gillis]

What are we talking about here?

[Joe Rogan]

Listen, let it r. It's just. The problem is you're going way too young. It's. You're going because someone's killing you and that. That someone's you. Yeah, but see, a lot of football players get it.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, I know.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, because Reggie White died. They have giant necks. So the giant neck, when you're adding all this stuff here, it's kind of closing in and then you got this big head and this big ass tongue and it just falls over that hole and you just slip into darkness.

[Shane Gillis]

Now he talking my language.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, listen, for a lot of those guys, it's all preventable, you know, you could sleep with a CPAP machine, which sucks.

[Shane Gillis]

Dude.

[Joe Rogan]

My dad.

[Shane Gillis]

My dad has a sleep AP machine and he. He doesn't fucking clean it. He gets like eye infections.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, God.

[Shane Gillis]

You just See him, he shows up with double pink eye, like, yo, what the fuck.

[Jamie]

Bro?

[Joe Rogan]

I tried that thing once, one time.

[Shane Gillis]

How do you sleep with that?

[Joe Rogan]

Can't. Can't do it. I can't sleep with a lot of noise. I want to be able to wake up quick. I wake up quick.

[Shane Gillis]

That's funny.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm one of those wake up guys. Like, if my wife grabs me, she, like, if she has wake me up, she has to, like, be kind of, you know, ready. That I don't really. Yeah. I don't know why I've always woken up like that. So I don't want any noise.

[Shane Gillis]

I listen to noise when I sleep. And then I have that thought, though. It's like, if somebody breaks in, I.

[Joe Rogan]

Want to hear everything.

[Shane Gillis]

Sure.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, this is like. I used to always have a lot of dangerous dogs. I used to have, like, multiple pit bulls.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, man. Me and him both with sleep apnea.

[Joe Rogan]

But it's.

[Shane Gillis]

I wanted.

[Joe Rogan]

I always wanted things to be awake that would bark if, like, something was at the door. Like, living by yourself in Hollywood. I never lived in Hollywood, but I lived in North Hollywood. Then I lived in Encino. And then I moved further out. I just kept moving further and further out. I even thought about Santa Barbara. I'm like, why don't I get a big piece of property on Santa Barbara? Get the fuck away from everybody. But, like, I don't want a machine going. Yeah, you can't. You're not hearing shit. I would be paranoid. I'd be feeling weird.

[Shane Gillis]

I think when you hit, like, machine time, it's like, dude, I hope someone breaks in here. Who gives a fuck? I've gotten sleep apnea. I get sleep apnea when I'm hungover. That's when I get it right? Like. And do you sleep? I've got it on my planes. I'm waking myself up. So embarrassing.

[Joe Rogan]

I had to wake this dude up and not wake this dude up, but tell him once we're on a long flight, like, you're going to Europe or something. And this poor dude was choking so bad. And he sat up and I said, hey, man, you have sleep apnea? I go, have you ever been tested for sleep apnea? He was a younger guy, it was like, in his 30s, but real overweight. And I go, you gotta go get tested. I go, you legitimately have sleep apnea. I go, I know because I have it. And I told him, I'm like, you don't breathe for like nine seconds at a time. I watched him. It was crazy.

[Shane Gillis]

I gotta Be honest. That's. I mean, don't get me wrong. You did the right thing, but that would bum you out.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he was already friendly with me.

[Shane Gillis]

Okay?

[Joe Rogan]

We were already friendly because he was.

[Shane Gillis]

Like, I love your shirt. Waking up to, like a. In shape, being like, you're fat. I wasn't.

[Joe Rogan]

I told him, I have it, too. I have it, too. I was informing him. I'm telling you. I go. Changed my life. And I just told them, I go, I got a mouthpiece that presses down in your tongue. Keeps my tongue from sliding back. It's a game changer. I go, dude, you'll feel so much better because I watched you choke.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. And so the mouthpiece is tough, though. Like, if you're laying with your lady.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, that's a problem.

[Shane Gillis]

Put the mouthpiece in.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

And she wants to talk. Well, hold on a second. All of a sudden, I'm hard. You should probably have sex right now.

[Joe Rogan]

Take that mouthpiece out. Yeah, you got to take it out. Go.

[Shane Gillis]

Hey, baby, are you awake?

[Joe Rogan]

It's just another thing is mouth tape. You ever try that? We breathe it out of your nose.

[Shane Gillis]

I got a deviated septum. It wouldn't.

[Joe Rogan]

You should get that fixed, dog.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm never gonna fix anything.

[Joe Rogan]

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[Shane Gillis]

You just got a nose surgery.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it was awesome. It was. The result is awesome. I mean I. I got. I gained like instantly gained like 10% cardio.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, damn.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Cuz you breathe out of your nose now. I couldn't breathe out of my nose forever. I broke my nose when I was five. I fell down a flight of stairs and then it was always crooked. Like, it's like the bone got. I got. I probably should have went to a doctor, but, you know, in the 70s, they just dusted you off, so. And then I broke my nose who knows how many times after that. Of course, a bunch of times.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

The most recent one, in my 40s, I got kneed in the face in jiu jitsu. My. Or in my late 30s, rather. I got knee in the face in jiu jitsu and it was pouring blood.

[Shane Gillis]

It doesn't look bad though.

[Joe Rogan]

No, it's not that bad. It's not flattened.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Too much. Because I really stopped striking mostly when I was like 22, 23. I did a little of it when I came to la again, I did a little sparring, but not too much. But it's the guys that just keep getting hit in the nose over and over again. This piece of cartilage eventually collapses and then you get this like flat thing there.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Which doesn't bother me too much on dudes, but it bums me out when I see it on women fighters. And it really does. It bums me out. I know. It's so sexist. It does bums me out.

[Shane Gillis]

Until you. Until you want to look pretty.

[Joe Rogan]

I know.

[Shane Gillis]

You go, why don't you look pretty?

[Joe Rogan]

There's certain fights where women get like really badly cut and I have a really hard time with it. I know I should. I mean, I don't Have a hard time with dudes.

[Shane Gillis]

Well, it's hard to watch women get beat up.

[Joe Rogan]

It is like the.

[Shane Gillis]

That Iraq video we were watching.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, Jesus.

[Shane Gillis]

It's hard to watch. What are you doing?

[Joe Rogan]

Someone decided it would be a good idea to have a man box a woman. It was maybe some mouthy chick because she was really aggressive. Like, remember, even after he knocked her down, she. She jumped up, tried to swing on him. Even when the referee was holding her back, she was very aggressive. But this dude beat the fucking dog out of her.

[Shane Gillis]

She was.

[Joe Rogan]

She did survive the round, I guess. Didn't she get knocked down at the end and they stopped it.

[Shane Gillis]

I think that I could be wrong. It looked like the second he was in his corner.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he was terrible. He wasn't good. Yeah, he wasn't good. It was ridiculous. Also. Yeah, don't make me watch this. This guy's just. I mean, it looks like he's got some rudimentary technique. He's just kind of swinging punches. But the power difference is just crazy. And anybody who thinks it's not is just flat delusional. The difference between a man and a woman is so big, even, like a strong woman like Amanda Nunes should probably knock out most dudes, but she's not sparring a guy her weight. That's gonna go full blast. It's. That's even, like a big power puncher for a woman. Oh, There. That's the end. That's horrible.

[Shane Gillis]

It's crazy, but I think they were just in, like, Fallujah, so it.

[Joe Rogan]

My friend Tommy used to have a girlfriend that could definitely knock you out. She. She knocked me out, dude. Bro, I'm telling you, this girl could. Could knock a man out. Tommy was always telling me how hard she hits those punching bag things, and he's like, let her hit your hand. So I go, okay. So I put my hand up, bro. She blasted my hand. And I went, whoa. I was like, that is real.

[Shane Gillis]

I know.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a real problem. I go, did. She'll knock you out? Did you not get into argument with your girlfriend? She's a big lady. Not. Not like. But the strong, stout lady. I was shocked. There's girls out there that could flatline you, but not that one, bro.

[Shane Gillis]

How much would that suck? Talking to your girl? You're like, oh, this is my house. I make.

[Joe Rogan]

She just crack. She collect chlores shields. You just drops bombs on you, Tunes you up with a nice couple hammer.

[Shane Gillis]

Fists on the ground.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, that.

[Shane Gillis]

Think of talking to a girl, and she gets in Like a good stance. Oh my God, a boxing stance.

[Joe Rogan]

Have you seen that really pretty girl that fights in the pfl? What's her name? Dakota Jeva. I don't know how to say her last name. I don't know. She's from England. I don't know what her ethnicity is, but she is like most of her fights win by knockout. She's this Muay Thai specialist. But she's pretty. She's real pretty and like slim and slender and she.

[Shane Gillis]

These girls up, that's.

[Joe Rogan]

These girls up like combinate. That's her combination. Say that name. Dicheva De Cheva. I don't know, I'm probably butchering it. A lot of those names, you, you can't really pronounce them the way you read them like that. That trips me up so hard at UFC weigh ins, like I have to write everything out phonetically. Just cut, cut to like when she's. Yeah, she's tuning up this girl and she tunes up all these girls. She's nasty, man. Look at that knee to the body, like. And she's pretty. She's pretty. She's got a nice body. If you saw her at a club, you would, you would say, wow, she fit like, Maybe she's a CrossFit or something.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, you try to hug her, you get put in the clinch, elbow just.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but that video is wrong. The video in Iraq is just wrong. Don't do that, don't do that to that poor lady. That lady got a lifetime worth of.

[Shane Gillis]

She must have been talking so much that the whole. Everybody agreed to it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, everyone agreed there's ladies like that out there. Just like there's guys like that out there for sure. I've seen a lot of videos of guys just walking into a boxing gym for fucking. I'm a fucking street fighter. They have no skills. Some guy just fucking talks shit to him while he's beating the brakes.

[Shane Gillis]

You can always tell though, just the way they move their feet. Oh yeah, like they don't kind of like on the balls of their, like jumping around a little. Every punch they throw, they leave their feet.

[Joe Rogan]

During the old days of martial arts, they used to people would just show up at your gym and say they want to spar. The best people there. It would happen all the time.

[Shane Gillis]

How, what years are these?

[Joe Rogan]

The 80s?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, that's because they were putting out out those fucking sick ass karate movies. Every single dude was like, hold on a second, is that me?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Am I John Claude Van?

[Joe Rogan]

I am that guy. Well, there's a lot of like probably schizophrenics and delusional people. Of course they'd show up at a karate school and just get up.

[Shane Gillis]

It's horrible. Having a manic episode. Be like, I'm about to throw a roundhouse kick.

[Joe Rogan]

Horrible. Horrible.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh man. Getting tuned up while you're having a mental break.

[Joe Rogan]

You're in the middle of a full schizophrenic break.

[Shane Gillis]

You're seeing elves and oh, there's that elf right there. He's in the gym.

[Joe Rogan]

There's a dragon hiding behind the corner. You just get punched in the face. Hold on. Dragon's talking to me.

[Shane Gillis]

He's got a trainer. It's a dragon.

[Joe Rogan]

You imagine being schizophrenic. Imagine just seeing a world that's totally different than the world everybody sees. Cuz you're. You're whatever is all up. And so you're just seeing things that aren't there.

[Shane Gillis]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

Making connections that aren't real. And you don't know Kurt Metzger.

[Shane Gillis]

Metzger's fired up. Metzger's fired up. He'll get you.

[Joe Rogan]

Metzger's got a touch.

[Shane Gillis]

He got me at the holiday.

[Joe Rogan]

He's got a touch of the skits.

[Shane Gillis]

He's fired up.

[Joe Rogan]

Dude, bro, he is an encyclopedia of conspiracies. Yeah, you just draw. Go back to. You remember that thing in the 70s? Oh yeah, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

He'll get it immediately and he'll tell you more than you know.

[Joe Rogan]

He'll tell you too much.

[Shane Gillis]

He also talks about conspiracies with complete. Oh, you didn't know this?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that's the best.

[Shane Gillis]

There's never like there's a theory. No, you didn't know. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And he gets over you because he's such a goon. He like looms over you. He's this big fucking dude. He's. Giant eyebrows.

[Shane Gillis]

He's so fucking funny. He's so funny. He's unbelievably funny character.

[Joe Rogan]

Like you couldn't make a dude like that in a movie, people. That's too over the top.

[Shane Gillis]

No, he's his, his comedy is. Oh yeah, like my favorite.

[Joe Rogan]

He's great. He's a really great. Like he does the Jimmy Dore show and he just jumps in with jumps. It's always like. I'm always like watching this very serious thing. What the fuck?

[Shane Gillis]

He's come over to my house a couple times. He likes White claws. He drinks White claws and brings his own. And then he gets going.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. He always shows up in the green room with two white claws in between.

[Shane Gillis]

His fingers always two white clothes. He's a two white claw man. It's a good move.

[Joe Rogan]

He's such a character. He's always been that guy, too. So fun.

[Shane Gillis]

I had the worst, one of the most embarrassing interactions with him. He just put out White Precious, which was one of my favorite specials ever. And then I saw him in la, because I was opening for, like, Big J at the store, and Metzger was there, and I was like, okay, I'm going to try to talk to Kurt. This is a big moment for me. And I was like, so do you think. When do you think your next special is? He was like, I don't fucking know, dude. Just walked away. And I was like, fuck, I blew it. There's so many of those. So many I wish I could take back.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

The meeting people for the first time being, like, super awkward or.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, Attell got me with a terrible one. I've talked about it before, but I walked outside of the cellar, I just had a good set. Like, I was feeling good, and he was smoking a cigarette, and I was like, can I get one of those cigarettes? He was like, no. He just walked right back inside. Fuck.

[Joe Rogan]

You thought you were gonna bond. Meanwhile, you only had four left.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, he likes with people.

[Joe Rogan]

How is he still alive? Like, he does nothing to take care of himself. How much. How many cigarettes does Dave smoke?

[Shane Gillis]

He smokes a lot of cigarettes.

[Joe Rogan]

He's. He's alive through pure laughter.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

The amount of laughter he generates keeps his tissue excited.

[Shane Gillis]

I was. I was so lucky to just be like. Because they would always put me with him at the end of the night. So I got to watch him for a few years, and it was, like, my favorite thing. But if I. He just would make fun of me. He'd see me in the room and be like, oh, Shane must have had a good set. He's hanging out. Shane, where were you born? On the corner of AR and 15. He's so good. Yeah. But, yeah, he fucking really makes fun of you. You stand in the doorway and he's like, look at you, you fat pieces.

[Joe Rogan]

I love what he does. He'll do a show and then he'll bring his opening axe on the stage at the end of and just riff and just shit on them.

[Shane Gillis]

It's hard. It's impossible to keep up, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

Ian just gets. Ian fighters good at. He is, but he gets just steamrolled.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, of course.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

He, like, knows Dave enough to, like, know what he's looking for with the answer. I don't. So I'd be in the room and he'd be like, shane, you look like a sex toy guy. What type of sex toys do you like? I'd be like, vibrators. Oh, good answer. Fuck, I don't know.

[Joe Rogan]

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[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, I sent. I opened for Bert Kreischer in Helium and then at Helium Filling. It was the first time I ever middled and I was like, that was a good show. I should. And he, you know, he was drunk after the show and he was like, you should open for me. And I was like, fuck it, I'm gonna email this guy. I emailed him like five times. The first email was like, I think you and me meshed together. We should. It was brutal. So then I'm talking. Me and Stanhope were talking to him about it. This fucker still has the same email account. So he brought it up. He read the email in front of me. Ten years later, how does he still.

[Joe Rogan]

Have the same email account for Killers. God, that would be.

[Shane Gillis]

You got any of those, what, like, when you were a young comic?

[Joe Rogan]

Just some emails back then.

[Shane Gillis]

No, no, no. But I mean, just, like, saying something that you.

[Joe Rogan]

Nothing too big.

[Shane Gillis]

Comics. You're like.

[Joe Rogan]

One time at mtv, Jon Stewart was having a meeting with this executive, and I just met Jon Stewart, like, the first time. And so I went in to say hi. I wanted to say hi to the lady, and Jon Stewart was there. And I remember saying hi to him, like, oh, hi. And then I remember I went. I go, wow, you got a great view. I looked out the window and I knocked something over, like a fucking statue or some shit that had. Grab it and pick it up. It didn't break. And I put it back. I'm like, all right, I'll just get out of here. I just felt like such a fudgeing, clumsy dork because I had to look out the way to say something nice like, wow, you got a great view. Yeah. Knock this fucking thing over and just like, oh, no.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, knocking something over.

[Joe Rogan]

That. Like, why did I go back there to look if I just said, hi in the main room area, everything.

[Shane Gillis]

Everybody be like, man, that guy was cool.

[Joe Rogan]

Guy was cool. No, he had to go to the window. That haunted me for years. I had to think about that knocking that stupid. I don't even remember what it was I knocked over, but I remember going, oh, no.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, it's terrible. I had one. I went to see Soders. He filmed one of his Comedy Central specials in Philly, and I had just done a showcase with him in New York. Like, I was, like, really excited that I did a show at the stand because I. It was, like, the first time I ever did, and he was on the lineup, so we're standing in line, and I was like, you think I should just tell these people that I just did a show with this guy? My friends were like, what the are you talking about? And I was like, dude, I'll kill myself, like, right away. I was like, I'm so sorry. You think I should tell, like, the people, the security that I just did a show with him?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it's funny.

[Shane Gillis]

Really embarrassing.

[Joe Rogan]

It's. It is embarrassing now because now you're just, like, totally friends with all these guys. Yeah, it's totally normal. That's what's weird. Like, I see John Stewart now. I give my hug, like, hey, what's up, dude? It's like, it's totally normal. He's just a person. When you see someone that you've seen on tv, like, when you're young, it's weird.

[Shane Gillis]

It is.

[Joe Rogan]

Takes a long time before it stops being weird.

[Shane Gillis]

That's why it's like when people come up to me and do the same thing I used to do, so I'm always like, it's all right. Yeah. You know, I mean, like, the first time I met Norman enlist, it was after a show, and I was standing next to him and I was like, you guys. It's funny. You guys sound just the same as you do on podcasts. I listen to you guys. Podcasts. Who the are you? Yeah, it's brutal.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, there's no way to be comfortable. How can you be. You have to go through it. If you don't go through it, you're not going to be comfortable. You're going to be weirded out. And you, like, no way around it.

[Shane Gillis]

You want them to be your friend. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? You want them to like you. They have no idea who you are. You're, like standing next to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And then it gets, you know, there's levels of weirdness. You know, like sometimes I'll be. I'm in here talking to someone. I'm like, that's Quentin Tarantino. Like, how weird is this? I mean, sitting here talking to Quentin. Like, there's certain guys that never stop being weird.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like, always stays a little weird because they're so famous.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. Mine's always athletes. It's always an athlete that I didn't think was gonna make me feel that way.

[Joe Rogan]

That's interesting. Well, you know how special they are.

[Shane Gillis]

Aaron Judge from the Yankees got me. Yeah. I couldn't even talk. It was recent. It was crazy. He's handed. He was hitting batting practice before, Phillies, Yankees. And he saw me. I didn't know he knew who I was. He, like, looked over before he, like, was entering the cage, and he was like, what's up?

[Joe Rogan]

And I was like, oh, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

And then he got done and he walked over. He's like, what are you doing back there, big man? I was like, oh, dude, you were hit him. Oh, yeah, he's a horse dude.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's a big.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, you have no idea. I was full panic in that.

[Joe Rogan]

That's funny.

[Shane Gillis]

Full panic. And then I think, yeah, that was the day me and my buddies did nine hot dogs, nine beers, nine innings.

[Joe Rogan]

Geez.

[Shane Gillis]

O' Connor had nine. Seven hot dogs before the first bit. He didn't have any beer. He fell asleep for a whole game.

[Joe Rogan]

Just from the hot dog.

[Shane Gillis]

Seven Hot dogs. And we were with my buddy H. Foley, and he was getting other food. He's a big fucking guy.

[Joe Rogan]

Other than the nine hot dogs.

[Shane Gillis]

Nine hot dogs was the challenge.

[Joe Rogan]

And then other.

[Shane Gillis]

I watched him get a fucking cheesesteak and nine hot dogs.

[Joe Rogan]

How big is he?

[Shane Gillis]

He's as big as. He's a big fuck.

[Joe Rogan]

Big as it gets.

[Shane Gillis]

Is that what he's about to say? I feel bad. I love him, but for real, he's about as funny as it gets, though.

[Joe Rogan]

Nine hot dogs and a cheesesteak is crazy. That's a lot of volume. Just like the sheer mass of it all, you know?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, it was terrible.

[Joe Rogan]

You know that feeling that you get when you eat like a giant meal and then you look at yourself sideways in the mirror, you're like, oh, my God, I'm pregnant.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, every did it last night.

[Joe Rogan]

All those plates stacked up on top of each other. Lately I've been doing this one meal a day thing. Like the last few days. I don't think I'm stick with it. Today I kind of cheated. I had a little bit of fruit, but so last night I went to the.

[Shane Gillis]

If I had a little bit of fruit, I'd be like, I'm. I'm the beacon of health. Crazy. I had fruit today.

[Joe Rogan]

You don't eat any fruit? No, no. Vitamins.

[Shane Gillis]

I take vitamins.

[Joe Rogan]

You take vitamins? What are you taking right now?

[Shane Gillis]

Just DB and C. Okay. And I got some zinc and magnesium in there.

[Joe Rogan]

You should go to waste a well, and you know what they'll do? They gave me some shit, but they'll give you one based on your blood profile.

[Shane Gillis]

They did? Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

They'll mix it for you. Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, it's the best.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's great. You don't have to think.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, I went to waste as well. Fully going. I have to have diabetes. The fucking. As soon as they took my blood, there was like four days from when I got the results. I was in the green room talking to Simpson. I was like, dude, there had to be symptoms, right? He was like, no, I just have diabetes. I was like, fuck, I definitely have diabetes. Nothing.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow.

[Shane Gillis]

It's a good result.

[Joe Rogan]

That is a good result. Yeah, that's great. That liver is a motherfucker, dude. Couldn't believe it.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, your liver's all right.

[Joe Rogan]

Your liver's a motherfucker. You know what it gets workouts.

[Shane Gillis]

I think the gets workouts. True. It's jacked, right?

[Joe Rogan]

Your liver's jacked. If you think about it. Look running all the time. Look running One time until your heart explodes is not good for you. You right? We all agree. You get a heart attack, you die. That's not good. Drinking yourself to death one time is not good for you. No, definitely not. But running every day, a little bit, couple miles, you get in shape.

[Shane Gillis]

I think this is wrong, but I like where you go.

[Joe Rogan]

You know where I'm going with this? Like, a little bit of whiskey, a little bit of booze, some drinking every day, stuffing that up, your liver is ready to go. Your liver's like a marathon runner, right?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, you'd think.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's like, that's why you have the tolerance. You have, clearly, right?

[Shane Gillis]

Because the tolerance comes from just light beer, Right. For real. If you get me. If I take two shots, I'm like, I gotta go home. It's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Stanhope does that too. He just sips light beer.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, really?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he moved it. He went to a cocktail phase. I don't know where he's at right now.

[Jamie]

He.

[Shane Gillis]

When I was with him, he was fully on, like, White Russians. Okay. And he was cocktail fish again after.

[Joe Rogan]

He gets after it still after all these years.

[Shane Gillis]

He was doing good last time I saw him.

[Joe Rogan]

He's great.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I heard he crushed at Skank.

[Shane Gillis]

He murdered.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Tony said it was awesome. Watched his set, and he said he was just clap. Tony said he was just going like this in the back. Doug's always been one of the best. And he's like, that's him. Like, he's not putting on an act. That's genuinely him 247 with his stupid suits on and just thinking everything is hilarious and hanging out with a army of idiots. Like, there's so many dudes that are like him. They're all doing ridiculous.

[Shane Gillis]

And I. Yeah. When I was living there, it was just me and them. It's the only guy that was like, what? The boys. These guys are all like, 50 and 60.

[Joe Rogan]

Hey, man.

[Shane Gillis]

Boys, we gotta admire it.

[Joe Rogan]

No doctors. This. We're riding this thing until the wheels fall off.

[Shane Gillis]

Bingo is doing good, too.

[Joe Rogan]

That's great.

[Shane Gillis]

Everything, it was nice to see.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Because when we were doing that end of the world podcast one time, that's when Bingo fell. Oh, it's so scary, man. Hitting your head is so scary. Speaking of hitting your head, what do you think is Jake Paul Anthony Joshua fight? That's tonight.

[Shane Gillis]

That is tonight.

[Joe Rogan]

Watch it.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch it. What?

[Joe Rogan]

Are you watching it?

[Shane Gillis]

I don't know. I got a lot. We got a lot tonight. We got Alabama, Oklahoma. Oh, college Football playoffs. What else we got, Jamo? Just that.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. All right. That's all great.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I can't get excited about that. I can't get excited about that. While Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua are fighting. I'm very excited about this.

[Shane Gillis]

If Anthony Joshua doesn't take it easy, this should be.

[Joe Rogan]

How could he take it easy? The whole world is watching. There's not a chance he's gonna make it look like this guy can box with him.

[Shane Gillis]

Can you imagine if Jake, if he flatlines him. Oh my God.

[Joe Rogan]

What if he steps in and just.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh my God.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. Power bombs them right on the chin and Joshua's legs go out and he goes down.

[Shane Gillis]

It'd be the saddest. It'd be sad.

[Joe Rogan]

Not for Jake Paul, of course.

[Shane Gillis]

That'd be awesome. Who's like. Who was like gonna be the guy.

[Jamie]

Destroy some sports books also, apparently.

[Shane Gillis]

What are those odds?

[Jamie]

They lose a hundred million dollars or something. I think.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

That's where.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

There's a lot of might take a.

[Jamie]

Dive on the Jake Paul underdog right now.

[Joe Rogan]

There's people betting on him.

[Jamie]

Yeah. Because he's got that plus 650. You're making six times the money you put in.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but what are the odds? What are the odds really? I know that's the literally said what are the odds to the odds? But I mean if you're gonna Vegas, it's like 99 in my eyes that Anthony Joshua either wins a decision or stops him. This is because he is a two time. It's not saying Jake Paul's not a good boxer. He's a real good boxer. He's like very underrated. But he's a two time heavyweight world champion. He's like one of the fucking scariest guys in the division. Lightning fast punches, 245 fucking pounds. He's huge. He's way bigger, way more skill.

[Shane Gillis]

He's like a foot taller. What's the height difference? I saw him at the weigh in.

[Joe Rogan]

I think he's five inches taller. Four or five inches taller. But the point is he's one of the best heavyweight boxers alive.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And Jake Paul is a guy that is, you know, very impressive for a guy beating up Ben Askren and knocking out Tyron Woodley. Very impressive. Yeah, there's levels. Knocking out Mike Perry. Very impressive. There's levels. This is, this is a crazy jump.

[Shane Gillis]

That's why it's. I think the only reason the odds are not 40 to 1 is people suspect shenanigans. Shenanigans?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. They Suspect shenanigans. But first they come out and circle each other like pro wrestling and grab the ropes. We're gonna be like, no.

[Shane Gillis]

Yes, you. When Nate fought him, that was great.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, listen, that's another fight. Look, Nate, no disrespect to Nate, but Nate fought his career at 155 pounds for the most part. A couple fights at 170. Yeah, you know, a very good boxer for MMA. But Jake Paul had his hands full and naked. Nate had a bachelor later rounds.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, the late rounds Nate started. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Paul, 71 underdog, had attracted 82% of the bets and 90 of the money that had been wagered on DraftKings on the winner.

[Jamie]

What?

[Joe Rogan]

A Paul upset would result in nearly a hundred million dollar loss for the sportsbook. Imagine if Jake Paul just hated DraftKings and they made a deal with Anthony Joshua. It's like, let's back give you 100. Let's bankrupt these motherfuckers. We're going to bet it all on me. I mean, that's like a Guy Ritchie movie.

[Shane Gillis]

It is, you know, it's. But that's the other thing because I saw Anthony. No disrespect to Anthony Joshua, but I saw. What fight. Was it recent? Like a year or two ago where he grabbed the mic after and started giving a crazy speech.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, I don't remember that. He did, yeah, he gave a little.

[Shane Gillis]

Weird after he lost. He like. Oh, wait, was it Daniel? Was he.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, Usyk. Yeah, yeah. What did he say?

[Shane Gillis]

It was just kind of a weird thing to do after you lose to grab the mic and talk to the crowd and.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I think it was in his hometown.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Rogan]

Wasn't it. Wasn't in London.

[Shane Gillis]

Definitely wasn't in Usyks. No, I'm not making fun of the war.

[Joe Rogan]

No, but just saying exactly who the gonna travel there to see a fight? I think that's probably why, you know, in England they like a loser who keeps his chin up. Like a guy who loses, you know?

[Shane Gillis]

I do.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, they like a respectable winner, you know, who's respectable and shows good sportsmanship and in good character after it's over.

[Shane Gillis]

I could be wrong. I just remember thinking it was odd.

[Joe Rogan]

And it's probably a cultural thing.

[Jamie]

He left the ring and came back and then they shook and then I don't know what he said.

[Joe Rogan]

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[Shane Gillis]

Let's give him a round of applause.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God.

[Shane Gillis]

So that's just emotion. Wait, wait.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm talking.

[Jamie]

So flag on his back. Sorry, man.

[Shane Gillis]

Look, if you knew my story, you would understand the passion. I ain't no amateur boxer from five years old. That was an elite prospect from a youth, bro. I was going to jail. I see some hypno youths in Reading jail. I got bail and I started training because if I got sentenced, I wanted to be able to fight. I bust my case. But cousin Bengal, where's he at? G14, raise your hand. I'm still in the Susan.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, I never saw this.

[Shane Gillis]

He might take a dive. He's a wild guys. I'm telling you, this guy to be me tonight. Maybe I could have done better, but it shows the levels of hard work he must have put in. So please give him a round of applause as our heavyweight champion of the world.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a little odd.

[Shane Gillis]

It's odd. He's still going I will say this. I don't. You know, you just kind of fight, right? I used to cry whenever I got in a fight, so I can't. I can't judge anyone. I would have given this. Dudes give that speech every time they lose a street fight. Every single time they stand up, they go, let's get a beer together, dude. This guy's a man, you know, Right?

[Joe Rogan]

A little bit.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But that. It is a little weird. It's definitely weird, but there's some dudes that just. Once they get the mic, they just want to start talking.

[Shane Gillis]

I hear you.

[Joe Rogan]

You know? Yeah, there are dudes. There's like, some dudes that I have to interview in the ufc, and the. The UFC is like, last question, stop. No more questions. We gotta. Because, like, they gotta cut to commercial.

[Shane Gillis]

I like those, though.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh.

[Shane Gillis]

So I like when the guy grabs the mic and just starts screaming.

[Joe Rogan]

Some of them are great. Some of them are great. But Chael Sonnen mastered it.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

He was the first guy. He was the first guy to figure it out. He was the first guy to figure out how to cut, like, a pro wrestling type promo in inside the cage. Like, Anderson Silva. You absolutely suck. It's like, what is going on here? He's the greatest of all time.

[Shane Gillis]

He's so funny.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it was. Chael was awesome.

[Shane Gillis]

Who's funnier than him?

[Joe Rogan]

McGregor.

[Shane Gillis]

McGregor was.

[Joe Rogan]

McGregor was really funny. McGregor took shit. Talking to a whole new level.

[Shane Gillis]

Yes. But I feel like Chael was.

[Joe Rogan]

But Chael opened the fucking door.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

He's the og. He's the OG of MMA talking for sure. And still, like, the most clever at it, you know? He's very clever.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. The Brazilians thinking a bus was a.

[Joe Rogan]

Horse, so they tried to feed.

[Shane Gillis]

It's like a good. It's a good bit, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

He's quite a character, man. He's quite a character.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. McGregor's shit talk.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Who the is that guy? His current talk's my favorite.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

I love what he's up to, the idiot.

[Joe Rogan]

Do you think he's gonna fight the vehicle? He keeps talking. He keeps talking about making it to the White House, but I just.

[Shane Gillis]

I hope he gets to the White House. I'm gonna do my best to go.

[Joe Rogan]

I hope that's. I hope he does that. And that's it.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm not saying.

[Joe Rogan]

And the Michael Chandler one is a good one. That's a smart.

[Shane Gillis]

That'd be a fun one.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a marketable one because everybody knows they were supposed to fight years ago, and they did the Ultimate Fighter together. And also, Chandler's still dangerous as he's not washed. He's not. He's not in his prime, but he's like 38 or 39 years old now.

[Shane Gillis]

He'll go wild in that fight.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a dangerous guy. He's crazy fit, too.

[Shane Gillis]

And he loves America. Dude, get him in front of the White House. He's going to cry after the.

[Joe Rogan]

And he. He will do everything within his power to try to beat Conor.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, I'm going to not, not say anything bad about Trump until that fight. Then I go, yeah, that fucking bullshit.

[Joe Rogan]

Tweet, that sucked, bro. Look what Mamdani called him. A fascist. And he had him in the Oval Office. And did you see that?

[Shane Gillis]

True.

[Joe Rogan]

And he's like, you said Donald Trump. He's like, it's okay. Just go ahead, say it. Just.

[Shane Gillis]

Bro, he didn't care. I hate to get on Trump stuff, but have you seen the plaques?

[Joe Rogan]

No, I heard about it. So his plaque's under everybody's name.

[Shane Gillis]

He's kind of trashing every other president.

[Joe Rogan]

And what does he.

[Shane Gillis]

The Clinton one, I read he kind. He talks about Andrew Jackson. I saw the Andrew Jackson and Clinton ones. The Clinton one is like, basically like, he kind of got lucky with the economy because of the tech boom also. Then at the end, he's like. And then his wife tried to run against Donald Trump and lost.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a plaque.

[Jamie]

Yeah. Hillary lost the presidency.

[Joe Rogan]

Huh? Does it really say he got lucky? Like, who's writing these things? He's not writing them. Sleepy Joe Biden.

[Jamie]

It says that president, American history.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God. He is writing it. Oh, no, no. Let me read it from the top. This is so crazy. This. That. This is underneath a photo in the White House is so crazy. Look at this. Sleepy Joe Biden was by far the worst president in American history. So crazy. Taking office as a result, the most corrupt election ever seen in the United States, Biden oversaw a series of unprecedented disasters. What's the matter, Jamie?

[Jamie]

Elections capitalize. Weird.

[Shane Gillis]

Weird.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it is weird. Unprecedented disasters that brought our nation to the brink of destruction. His policies caused the highest inflation ever recorded, leading the US dollar to lose more than 20% of its value in four years. His green new scam surrendered American energy dominance. And by abolishing the southern border and border, Biden let 21 million people from all over the world poor in the United States, including from prisons, jails, mental institutions, and insane asylums. Isn't like he said, two things that.

[Shane Gillis]

Are the same thing for both of them jails, prisons.

[Joe Rogan]

His Afghanistan disaster was amongst the most humiliating events in American history and resulted in the murder of 13 brave American service members, which many other, many others gravely wounded. Seeing with many others gravely, gravely mooned. What's wrong with me? Seeing Biden's devastating weakness, Russia invaded Ukraine and Hamas terrorists launched their heinous October 7th attack on Israel. This is crazy Nickname. Both sleepy and crooked by you. Nicknamed like the whole public got together. I got a name for this guy. Was dominated by his radical left handlers. Look how radical left is in caps, too. They and their allies in the fake news media attempted to cover up his severe mental decline and unprecedented use of auto pen. This is so crazy. You shouldn't be allowed to do this. Right? It should be like, historians say, this guy was president from Ba Ba Ba.

[Shane Gillis]

Does it say, Donald Trump saved America.

[Joe Rogan]

Despite all, President Trump would get reelected in a landslide and save America in all caps. That's a plaque in the White House.

[Shane Gillis]

He's not beating the dictator charges. This is like an African dictatorship.

[Jamie]

I think they're changing the name of the Kennedy center to the Trump Kennedy Center.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, boy. Somebody needs to tell him, like, hey, this is not good. You can't do that. Because then other people could do that, too. And then the White House stops being the White House and it becomes whoever is in its house, where he could just go crazy and say everybody else is a crook.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't think anyone's gonna do what he's doing. I don't think there's.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, look, I hope not, but it opens up. The problem is it opens up the door for someone on the left to do their version of it.

[Shane Gillis]

Who. Who's gonna be the Democrat? Who's next? Fucking Gavin Newsom. He's not gonna fucking put up a.

[Joe Rogan]

Course he would. Of course he would. He copies everything that Trump does. He even tries to talk like Trump on Twitter. You don't think that he would put up plaques that talk about how corrupt Trump was and about how terrible and he was quoted as lying over 5,000 times by Washington Post, you know?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, but he doesn't have to put up a plaque. That'll just be everywhere.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, but he could put that under his photo, though. Like, that's never been a thing that people did before for sure. Right? I mean, I'm guessing. What was it before Here, he added.

[Jamie]

That Ronald Reagan was a fan of President Trump's long before his historic run for the White House.

[Joe Rogan]

That's so disturbing. That's such crazy.

[Shane Gillis]

What lackey Put that up and was like, do you like this? Of course he's gonna like it, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

He wrote it. What are you talking about? You don't think he wrote it? You think a lackey wrote it?

[Shane Gillis]

I don't. If I know. I don't know what's going on.

[Joe Rogan]

It's. Whoever's writing his tweets wrote that. Yeah, same shit.

[Shane Gillis]

He's got to be writing his tweets.

[Joe Rogan]

I. I think they made a video of it, right? Yeah. So the video is, like, he says things and someone types it out for him.

[Shane Gillis]

He fucked up on Twitter this week.

[Joe Rogan]

What, with the Rob Reiner thing.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. That's crazy. It's all crazy.

[Shane Gillis]

Every. Like, so if he didn't do the Rob Reiner thing and then put up those plaques, I'd be like, that's funny. But then the Rob Ryan thing, like, God damn it, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, the plaques are crazy. The plaques are crazy. It's like you're. The White House is supposed to be where each new president. You, You. The new guy comes in. You won the new election. Congratulations. Let me show you around. This is what it's like. These are all the photos. What's loud?

[Jamie]

I think this. They change.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at the.

[Jamie]

I think that's the photo for Joe Biden.

[Joe Rogan]

It's an auto pen.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay, that's. That's so crazy. That's so crazy.

[Shane Gillis]

But again, it's still funny. When he does crazy. When he does crazy and it's funny, I like it.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. But the Rob Reiner thing is not funny. Right. And that's like, the same thing. Yeah, it's the same kind of thinking. And when you put. When you see it with no empathy, that's when it's hard to like. Yeah, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

I wish he could apologize. I know.

[Joe Rogan]

You can, and you won't listen. There's no justification for what he did that makes any sense. In a compassionate society, it's no different than people that were celebrating when Charlie Kirk got shot.

[Shane Gillis]

That's what. Yeah, that's the thing that bothers me.

[Joe Rogan]

Same kind of thing.

[Shane Gillis]

It'd be like if Obama tweeted. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Rest in piss. Imagine. Oh, my God. Imagine. Imagine if Obama tweeted, you know, something about someone, you know, after they died in. In this way that this person was a deranged. That person that hated Obama and he wrote Obama, like, all caps. Imagine Obama. Do you imagine Obama talked like Trump? They hated Obama. That was his thing. He talks about himself in the third person. That would be crazy. It just shows you how Crazy. It is the way Trump thinks and talks. It's just like the guy got sliced up by his kid, you know?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Anybody that doesn't see that and go, man.

[Shane Gillis]

Yes. You know, also the kids claiming not guilty right now.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, Carl. Okay. I like it by reason of what.

[Shane Gillis]

I like the mood. Oh, boy.

[Joe Rogan]

It's so. It's so dark, man.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. It's really fucking horrendous.

[Joe Rogan]

But on the other side of it, the. The Rob Reiner thing was crazy because Rob Reiner, like, made it a mission to try to get Trump out of office and to try to get Trump arrested. And this is really weird video where he's sitting there with John Brennan and James Clapper, these two top dog spooks.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And they're talking about how this is, like, unacceptable that Trump is president. I'm like, this is a crazy thing to. And, like, high production value. Yeah. So it's, like, all filmed together. They're coming up with reasons why they have to remove Trump from office. Maybe they knew something.

[Shane Gillis]

All that sucked. I think that sucked. Yeah. But then, dude, you get murdered next to your wife by your son.

[Joe Rogan]

Horrible.

[Shane Gillis]

That's, like, the worst thing possible. The window, the president.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. It's a crazy thing.

[Shane Gillis]

Whatever.

[Joe Rogan]

To put out.

[Shane Gillis]

By the time this episode comes out, we'll have moved on.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. But it seems like, you know, it seems like whenever something like that happens where someone is happy, that someone died. So. So many people just.

[Shane Gillis]

You.

[Joe Rogan]

You feel so disappointed. You know, you just feel like it's so disappointing.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like, why? Why? If you. If you say that privately, that's one thing. Which is also crazy.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But it's so disappointing. I mean, someone would have to be the worst person ever. And then you're like, you know what? That guy. But Jesus.

[Shane Gillis]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

And the way it happened, too.

[Shane Gillis]

Like, yo, the way it happened makes it, son. Makes it ten times worse.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, God. He died.

[Shane Gillis]

If he died in, like, a funny way. Right. You know.

[Joe Rogan]

Right, right, right.

[Shane Gillis]

Then it would be if you use, like, I'm gonna fucking a parachute out of a plane.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Shane Gillis]

There you go.

[Joe Rogan]

Something stupid. Oh, he's bungee jumping. He lied about his weight.

[Shane Gillis]

But then. Then the worst possible way to die.

[Joe Rogan]

The worst possible way to die.

[Shane Gillis]

I mean, and he did. Before all the political. He did rule.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he had amazing rules, man. Guy made amazing moves.

[Shane Gillis]

He ruled.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, let's. Let's bring up Rob Reiner's filmography. How many great. He wanted to come on the podcast and talk about jfk.

[Shane Gillis]

That would have been sick.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I don't know why that never happened, but what films did he do? Start off with.

[Jamie]

I don't think Spinal Time might have been the first one, but.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay. Stand By Me and Princess Bride. Two of the greatest men.

[Shane Gillis]

Wait, he made A Few Good Men, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

Misery. He did Misery. Amazing movie.

[Jamie]

Let me.

[Shane Gillis]

Was he a producer on A Few Good Men?

[Jamie]

Let me make sure.

[Joe Rogan]

Directors.

[Jamie]

We went just one. Because he did a lot of stuff, too. He's been in movies. Directed them. Here you go. Like writer, predictor or. Sorry, Producer. Writer, director, Different.

[Shane Gillis]

He did direct a few main.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah, dude. He made some bangers. When Harry Met Sally.

[Jamie]

He's a dad. Move of Wall Street.

[Shane Gillis]

He was hilarious in that.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot about that.

[Jamie]

Spinal Tap was supposed to come out. I think I read they put that.

[Joe Rogan]

On hold right now. Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Horrendous. That's. That's like.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, you don't. Don't put anything out. There's Someone take his phone.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. There's certain things the administration does that I'm just like, dan, you can't. You can't defend it. Like the. Like the. I don't think it's the administration necessarily, but they've definitely allowed it to happen where like, ICE is making funny videos about deporting people. Yeah. And then like.

[Joe Rogan]

Like.

[Shane Gillis]

Like this. It's like, damn, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

That's how they use Theo. Yeah, they use Theo. And a totally unrelated clip that, like, some lady said, my friend has to leave the country. Will you make a video? I heard you got boarded.

[Shane Gillis]

I mean, I knew that video existed before. Yeah. I'm the one editing the dhs.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just Theo being funny.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

And you.

[Joe Rogan]

They use that in this ICE thing. And Theo's like, whoa. And he had a really good response, too. He got them to take it down. But his response. See if you can find it something that. His opinions on immigration are much more nuanced.

[Shane Gillis]

I mean, that's the truth, though. It's like, yes, sure, illegal immigrations. We should fix that.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Don't fucking make it funny. It's a serious thing. It's a serious thing you're doing.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Why would you make it funny at all?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, is the thought like that. That'll make it popular on Tick Tock and it'll spread that way. Is that the thought that it'll be a video will get people to want to sign up?

[Shane Gillis]

A lot of those people are obviously just weird psychos that are in that world.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know. I Heard something that. I don't know if it's true. It was about the Brown shooting. The Brown University shooting. And it's people claiming that the. The security cameras had been disabled.

[Shane Gillis]

Yes.

[Jamie]

I was trying to get Theo's tweet. Here's just the quote of what it said.

[Joe Rogan]

Yo, this. He says, dhs, I didn't approve to be used in this. I know you know my address, so send a check and please take this down. And please keep me out of your banger deportation videos. Vaughn said on his ex account. When it comes to immigration, my thoughts and heart are a lot more nuanced than this video allow by Vaugh added perfect response.

[Shane Gillis]

Calling them banger videos is hilarious.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, they're ridiculous.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, they suck.

[Joe Rogan]

They suck. It's like, why are you doing that? I thought you're trying to get rid of, like, the worst people in the world. You're not trying to be entertaining. Like, the job is to get rid of the worst people in the world. Like. But that. That's what we're. You know, that's what we wanted. We wanted them to get rid of cartel members and terrorists. The worst people in the world. That's who we were hoping for.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But then it's like anybody. I bet they have quotas. I bet they're. They're told they do.

[Shane Gillis]

Without a doubt.

[Joe Rogan]

Whenever you give a quota to enforcing a law, you get into weird territory. That's when cops pull people over for. Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Tell most of my buddies got DUIs cops needed.

[Joe Rogan]

They just took a chance. Me and.

[Shane Gillis]

Me and Jamie were just talking about that. Hell. Just our hometown. I just miss it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

I was built. That's what I was built for. Hometowns 9 to 5 and then go to a bar.

[Joe Rogan]

That's what you built for us. Did you miss those days?

[Shane Gillis]

I miss it a lot.

[Joe Rogan]

Really?

[Shane Gillis]

I miss the. Going to the bar just for fun.

[Joe Rogan]

Just sitting there hanging out.

[Shane Gillis]

Bro.

[Joe Rogan]

We had.

[Shane Gillis]

We could have beat Lancaster Catholic. That was crazy. We lost that. That's what I'm gonna talk about when I get home for Christmas. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

That's funny. You look forward to that.

[Shane Gillis]

I do.

[Joe Rogan]

Rules.

[Shane Gillis]

High school buddies. They all have families now. Yeah, it's nice. Especially when your friends get families. It's nice to go. Go out with them. When you see them get that one night off you go, oh, this guy's about to black out. This is gonna be crazy. I was. Buddy. I have friends come to shows and just fall apart.

[Joe Rogan]

That's hilarious. That's so funny.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. Sorry about that. Derailing it from that actual conversation.

[Joe Rogan]

No, it's okay. I don't remember what we were talking about.

[Jamie]

You talked about security cameras.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

The Brown University thing. Now what. Why did they have the security cameras? Why were they disabled? Because I don't even want to say. Whatever.

[Shane Gillis]

What I read the thing online was saying that. Yeah, it was ice.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. That it was because they wanted to stop ICE from using the feed to locate illegals that are working on the campus. Maybe. Or maybe citizens that are students, rather.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

That are. Because they've done some wild shit like they did. I don't know if they wind up deporting that lady, but they were trying to deport that lady because she was a student and she wrote a. An essay that was critical of Israel.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Response from their officials, I guess called.

[Joe Rogan]

On lack of cc. And they want to know how a school with a 9 billion dollar endowment does not have cameras on one of the older buildings at the edge of the campus where this happened. Not even in the front door. Who's coming and going now? They asked this question knowing that the shooter may have done whatever he wanted, but the cameras, A, would have deterred or B, captured a better look at him. And we wouldn't be here today, five days out. I want you to explain that because there's a lot of paradise parents who are wondering, where are you investing your money?

[Jamie]

I appreciate that question and I want to reiterate, as our president did, that supporting our students and communicating to the parents, to our community about our support is of utmost importance. We have 1200 cameras located throughout the campus. We don't publish the locations of the cameras. That would give a map to somebody to evade detection on the cameras. So that would be counterproductive to do that. There are cameras in this building. And as I answered the previous question, we have turned over all evidence that we are holding at Brown to law enforcement and are cooperating fully with them.

[Joe Rogan]

So you're saying that there's a camera using cameras in the building? I was told yesterday there wasn't cameras in the building. The Attorney General said old.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm on camera right now. You.

[Jamie]

I believe he said that there were two different phases of the building that might have two different levels of technology. Again, all video imagery has been turned over to law enforcement.

[Joe Rogan]

That doesn't make sense. Okay. This is contradictory to what I read. What I read was that somebody had disabled them. So he was saying there is cameras and they turned over all footage.

[Shane Gillis]

There's gotta be cameras.

[Joe Rogan]

But the thing is, like, when you hear a Story like they disabled it for ice. Like, is that story total bullshit? And is that story designed to get people to tweet that out so that other people start believing it for sure?

[Shane Gillis]

They were naming the fucking shooter. I thought. Did you see that?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

How did they get. No, before they got the Portuguese guy.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, really? They were in a different shooter?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, no. Yeah. Who's the.

[Shane Gillis]

I was all over it. I was going, this motherfucker. How dare you?

[Joe Rogan]

Who was the different guy?

[Shane Gillis]

It was a kid that was in, like, protests and shit. Like, a Gaza kid. So they instantly named him and. Yeah, whatever.

[Joe Rogan]

It's all gonna get paid.

[Shane Gillis]

He should.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah, he should. Remember the Atlanta one where the guy. They ruined his life and they said he was a bomber. It was just a security guard.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Remember that guy?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, the movie.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Is his name.

[Joe Rogan]

I forget his name, too, but I remember the real story.

[Shane Gillis]

Walter Paul. Walter Hauser plays him in. I hope I'm Getting that name right. I know that guy's. He's the man.

[Joe Rogan]

Richard Jewell.

[Shane Gillis]

Richard Jewell.

[Jamie]

I was there that day.

[Shane Gillis]

You were in Atlanta?

[Jamie]

Yeah, I was there.

[Joe Rogan]

That's crazy, dude. What?

[Jamie]

Yeah, when we were headed home. The only reason we weren't there when it went off was because we couldn't get scalp tickets to watch the Dream Team play. The guy we were trying to buy them from ripped him up in front of my dad and just threw him in the sewer. We're like, what?

[Shane Gillis]

Yo, who does that? You are Ohio. You are Ohio trash. You went to the Olympics to scalp Dream Team?

[Joe Rogan]

No, we went to other stuff, but.

[Jamie]

Like, we didn't have tickets to that game, so we were like, let's find tickets.

[Shane Gillis]

What else did you see?

[Jamie]

Like a volleyball game and baseball.

[Joe Rogan]

Richard Jewell, right?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, Richard Jewel.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I just sent you this thing. Yeah.

[Jamie]

I found a thing on Twitter about it. It said there's, like, an open letter in August that anti ICE protesters wanted the cameras disabled. But I didn't see that it actually happened at all.

[Joe Rogan]

I'll find your message, bro.

[Shane Gillis]

It's all weird.

[Jamie]

I'm actually looking at.

[Shane Gillis]

I've kind of checked out.

[Joe Rogan]

Let me hear this. Human Rights group to unit. Human Rights group to university administrators, dismantle surveillance to defend free speech now.

[Shane Gillis]

Huh?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know if they did it. What does that mean? Because the sanctuary city law that we have, you don't want to recall legal immigrants, and you don't want to provide the footage to the FBI or immigration authority. One camera. And that builder, he come out from your Detectives, they're a friend of mine. They're angry at this investigation. If these people in Brown University put the camera off, they can identify that person. You imagine how the family want to go through, tell the truth to the media here. We heard from both the Brown police chief.

[Jamie]

Isn't that where that girl got taken for writing the letter? Right. When this all started, Wasn't she a Brown student or something?

[Joe Rogan]

Was it. I thought it was Columbia. I don't remember, though. I don't remember, though. See if you could find that story, because that story is also crazy. Like, you're deporting a student for having an opinion about a world war. It's a war that's happening, right? At least from one side of it. Like, having an opinion is a problem that gets you ejected from the country. Like, especially you're at a university which is supposed to be a place where ideas get challenged.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. It turns out every. Both sides are totally hypocritical and do exactly what the other side did.

[Joe Rogan]

And it's interesting because we're getting to see it more clearly than we've ever seen it before, right? Yeah, it seems like it.

[Jamie]

Tufts University.

[Joe Rogan]

Tufts arrested and detained by ICE agents in Somerville, Massachusetts. What did she say?

[Jamie]

She wrote up something in the newspaper, I think. Like the school newspaper.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. But what was it? Let's see if we could read it. I wonder what. What got her deported? What were the words?

[Jamie]

Criticizing leadership.

[Joe Rogan]

She criticized Tufts leadership response to the Tufts Community Union Senate passing several resolutions concerning human rights violations in Gaza. Months after the op ed was written and just weeks before she was detained, the website Canary Mission published a profile on Ms. I don't know how to say her name, Oz Turk, including her photograph, claiming she engaged in anti Israel activism. Its sole support for the contention was a link and screenshots of her op ed. When asked about her case, Secretary of State Marco Rubio confirmed revoking her visa, adding, we gave you a visa to come and study and get a degree, not to become a social activist. That tears up our university campuses.

[Shane Gillis]

Shut up, Marco.

[Joe Rogan]

So she was. Put that up again, please. So she was asking. She was criticizing Tufts leadership's response to the Tufts Community Union Senate passing several resolutions. So she must be a part of the Tufts Community Union Senate or. Or someone is. So they passed several resolutions concerning human rights violations. So, like, what is. Like, what. What was she. I want to know what she actually said. You know what I mean? I mean, we're getting a synopsis of what her actual op ed was. See if we can find it. It's just interesting because like, what, what can get you kicked out of a country that is the most pro free speech country on planet Earth? Like, what gets you kicked out? Is it really.

[Shane Gillis]

Is it a speech?

[Joe Rogan]

Right, but it's only that one. Is it only that one? Like, what if you had an opinion on Ukraine and Russia without getting kicked out?

[Shane Gillis]

I doubt it.

[Joe Rogan]

That's weird, right?

[Shane Gillis]

Certainly is.

[Joe Rogan]

That's kind of weird. It's a little. You notice.

[Shane Gillis]

Give me two more beers. Okay, I'll let you know. I. You know, my algorithm's been feeding me.

[Joe Rogan]

It's kind of crazy because, you know, unless someone is outright calling for violence or revolution or to ignore the laws or ignore the rules, if they're just having an opinion on a gigantic international conflict, sure, that seems crazy to want to kick them out of the country. Unless there's something more that. I don't know.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, maybe. She must have said something. You would think pretty crazy, but I bet you she didn't.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, she might not.

[Shane Gillis]

We'll see. I bet it was a wild ass statement.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, this is so long. Try again. President Kumar renewing calls to tough for tufts to adopt March 4th TCU Senate resolutions. So university's response is Senate wholly inadequate and dismissive of the Senate, the collective voice of the student body. Why? First of all, why would Tufts be doing anything about what's happening in Gaza? And what could they really do? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but if, yeah, like, what could they really do?

[Shane Gillis]

I don't know. They might stop it.

[Jamie]

Investments and divesting from companies and direct ties to Israel is what they were talking about.

[Joe Rogan]

Right, but the problem is, aren't those companies. Israel's not a communist dictatorship. So those companies that you're not going to invest in, they're just citizens of Israel, like you're citizens of America. You know what I mean? It's like they, there's a lot of people that were protesting Netanyahu before October 7th. It's like not everybody agrees with everybody. It's not like Israel's a monoculture that only has like one thing that they, they think. There's a lot of people over there that don't like their, their government. So like to ban their business, not use their bit. Like, what.

[Shane Gillis]

If. I know, I don't know.

[Joe Rogan]

What does that do? It puts pressure on them to vote differently, I guess. Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. Where'd she. Where was she from?

[Joe Rogan]

But that, but again, isn't that. That's just an opinion. It's an opinion.

[Shane Gillis]

It didn't even. I don't think she even said anything that wild in there.

[Joe Rogan]

No. Is that what the. She got kicked out. There's probably a lot more to it.

[Jamie]

But just one of three or four authors of this paper even.

[Joe Rogan]

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[Shane Gillis]

It if you're from another country?

[Joe Rogan]

I feel like once you are in America legally, shouldn't we treat you like a fucking American other than you Know, Certainly.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Other than you being able to vote yet. But once you're here legally, we've agreed they can in a lot of places. Turns out they can.

[Shane Gillis]

They're getting some votes in. Turns out a ton of. Not zero.

[Joe Rogan]

It's not zero. Anybody who says it's zero is lying.

[Shane Gillis]

Yep.

[Joe Rogan]

Did you see that most most recent thing about the Georgia elections?

[Shane Gillis]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it's kind of crazy. The.

[Shane Gillis]

Told you I checked out.

[Joe Rogan]

Dude.

[Shane Gillis]

Dude, I'm watching Fighter Jet highlight videos on my phone.

[Joe Rogan]

You're better off that way. You're better off checking out.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm waiting for the college football playoffs.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Patiently.

[Joe Rogan]

They found a ton of. Well, I don't want to put it. Let me pause for a second when I find this.

[Jamie]

I got the tweet.

[Joe Rogan]

You got it?

[Jamie]

Yeah, but I think it's a. I don't.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't.

[Jamie]

Again, I don't know either. I'm not paying attention to this.

[Joe Rogan]

It's found votes. Well, they were saying that, Stone, that 315,000 early votes lack the poll workers signatures.

[Shane Gillis]

We don't dispute the allegation.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. So if that's true, they admit that 315,000 votes lacked poll worker signatures and they were counted in 2020. I don't think that's legal. Let's put in. Put that into perplexity. Is that legal? Like, if that's true, is that legal? And should those votes have counted so. Because here's where it gets crazy. Trump lost to Biden in Georgia by, I think it was 11,000 votes. Yeah.

[Jamie]

I read though that they'd already done a hand count of these votes since. Because this has been disputed for the.

[Joe Rogan]

Last five years, you know, so what does that mean? They did a hand count of the votes. The thing is, it doesn't have the poll signature. Right.

[Jamie]

I'm just saying that's separate from the poll.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't even know what that means. But what. But the accusation at least is that 315,000 lacked. So put the tweet up again so we can read the accusation. It says 315,000 early votes that lack poll workers signatures. So, yeah, a poll worker is supposed to sign every one of them. Right.

[Jamie]

That's the. I was trying to read into what this means. There's something about, like, each day when they use the machine, they have to like zero out the machine to make sure, like, you know, it's starting at zero and then at the end of the day you gotta sign off on what it says. So someone's counted them or something.

[Joe Rogan]

Like that.

[Jamie]

And they don't have evidence because there wasn't anything being signed that this even started at zero. They could have had their sample tally still on there from their practicing the machines to make sure they counted. Right. There's a lot of discrepancies on what.

[Joe Rogan]

That could have meant.

[Jamie]

I think it's a chain of custody issue. I don't know, again, what that means specifically.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. So it could mean many things. And one of the things that it could mean is that315,000 early votes were.

[Jamie]

They also don't know what. Who voted for who in those. 315, 000.

[Shane Gillis]

Right. I bet if we tallied those up. That's right.

[Jamie]

I think I was reading into these tweets. Some people were like, this is nonsense sense because they've already gone back and counted them all. But they. People are fighting with those people.

[Joe Rogan]

And the problem is, when you asked Trump about it, like, when I had him on the podcast, I'm like, you think. You think they stole the 2020 election? Like, tell me what. What's the evidence?

[Shane Gillis]

He didn't.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he. He might not have remembered. He might have just said, tell me what they did. And, like, had somebody work on it. And then they told him and then he starts talking about it. But he didn't really go in depth about it. I don't know. But he didn't have a satisfactory answer.

[Shane Gillis]

No, he didn't. I was hoping he did.

[Joe Rogan]

I was hoping he did, too. Like, I was hoping.

[Shane Gillis]

I was hoping that he would have said they stole it through, like, propaganda and shit or like what they. What happened in those years, certainly. And instead it was just down propaganda, like voter fraud and like. Yeah, which I'm sure there was some. But it was like, you could have had an argument with what happened. Happened in 2020 and leading up to it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, you could definitely have a thing where you see with the FBI and the Twitter files and all that.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

With the Hunter Biden laptops.

[Shane Gillis]

He didn't even bring that up.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I should have brought that up. Georgia officials and complaints agree that failing to obtain required poll worker signatures on the tabulator tapes for roughly 315,000 early boat ballots in Fulton county was a violation of Georgia election procedure law, I. E. It was not done in compliance with the statute. That does not automatically mean individual voters did anything wrong or that their ballots are criminally illegal, but it does mean the county certification process for those votes did not follow the state legal requirements. So those are not supposed to have been counted. Is that what they're saying because it didn't follow the requirements.

[Jamie]

That's.

[Joe Rogan]

That's what they're saying. So it said, scroll back up again so I could hear. So it says poll workers must also print and sign zero tapes at the start of voting to show machines begin at zero. And these sign tapes serve as the official certification that reported totals from the scanner are authentic. That's what they require. So they require people to do that. So maybe someone didn't do that. What they were required. That's a possibility.

[Shane Gillis]

I think 36 did.

[Joe Rogan]

36 of 37 advanced voting precincts in Fulton county had failed to sign the tabulation tapes, including that the county violated official election record document processes required by statute. The ones the voting precincts put this in that failed to sign the tabulation tapes, were they predominantly Republican or Democrat?

[Shane Gillis]

Just Google Fulton County. Click images.

[Joe Rogan]

I think, you know. What do you think?

[Shane Gillis]

I don't know. Well, I mean, if the. If the Republicans are complaining about it, it's obviously a Democrat.

[Joe Rogan]

Right? For.

[Shane Gillis]

Predominantly was close. Here we go. That's how I would have spelled it.

[Joe Rogan]

That's how I would have spelled it. I thought it was right.

[Shane Gillis]

I can't believe anything's wrong there.

[Joe Rogan]

I thought it was right. I wonder if AI would have figured it out.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Specific 36 to 37 advanced voting locations with unsigned tapes are not publicly broken out by party. But Fulton county as a whole is strongly Democratic and its advance early vote totals in 2020 were overwhelmingly Democratic. In other words, those affected advanced voting sites would be expected to be predominantly Democrat in their results, not Republican. Weird that 36 out of 37 that have unsigned tapes are strong Democratic and that there's 315,000 votes that aren't supposed to be be there. They didn't sign for the. But it's okay. Don't worry about it. We just forgot to tally it. We forgot the tally. Whoopsies. We were so busy making sure we saved democracy that we forgot the tally.

[Shane Gillis]

They saved it. This is good. 4 years.

[Joe Rogan]

What a great move though. If they really did steal the election, like, wow, am I. Is that the first time anyone's ever done it? I don't know if they did it. I'm not saying they did it, but I'm saying if they did do it, like what a great movie that would be.

[Shane Gillis]

There's no way.

[Joe Rogan]

A bunch of fucking pink haired dorks who really do hijack the system and they're good for them in the fucking back rooms, like licking envelopes and sealing mail in ballots.

[Jamie]

I Don't. I asked the thing I read and it says they're both hand counted and fully audited after the fact. I asked if after they had found a problem certification and that says that.

[Joe Rogan]

They did hand counted and fully audited after the fact.

[Shane Gillis]

There's no way the people that didn't sign are the ones making sure to tell everyone it was hand counted.

[Jamie]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

It says hand counted but then recounted by machine counted. And those process included Fulton. Even though the later issue about unsigned early voting tapes was not corrected by a new post 2024 hand count. Wait a minute, what does that mean? Was the issue about unsigned early voting tapes was not corrected by a new post 2024 hand count.

[Jamie]

That's where I guess this is a weird. I don't know what any of this stuff means, to be honest.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. What does that mean? That's what's confusing. I'm like, was there 315 weird votes or not? Because that. That is the main, like, right wing. I bet if you went on Truth Social and asked them how do they steal the election? They'd. I bet you can't get banned from Truth Social. Right? You probably can't get banned.

[Shane Gillis]

Maybe you say something liberal.

[Joe Rogan]

You'd have to say, but you'd have to be crazy liberal where if you said, I believe that there's two genders on Blue sky, you're dunsies. Are you instant gone? See ya.

[Shane Gillis]

Blueski's nuts, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

They go crazy. Do you know what McCann told us?

[Shane Gillis]

I. I do. I do know what he told us. I don't know how true that is.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, we should find out.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, let's find out.

[Joe Rogan]

So McCann says that they created a ban in Australia on social media for kids under 16, that this ban includes Instagram and TikTok, but does not include Blue Sky. If that's true, that is crazy.

[Jamie]

You just.

[Joe Rogan]

You, like, up until 16 years old, the only way you get to communicate is the most radically leftist this site available in Blue Sky. I saw this lady one. One guy rather said, I'm trying to be Zen about it. Like something happened to him. I'm trying to be Zen about it. And then this other guy underneath it chimes in. It would be great if you would stop being racist to Asians.

[Shane Gillis]

Maybe he was being fun.

[Joe Rogan]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Shane Gillis]

There's no humor over there.

[Joe Rogan]

There's no humor. It is. It is a fucking SSRI soup. It's.

[Shane Gillis]

There's no humor over there.

[Joe Rogan]

It's. There's no humor. I.

[Shane Gillis]

With blueski I got to get on there. I thought it was Blue Ski for so long.

[Joe Rogan]

Call it Blue Ski. I bet a lot of people got to call it that.

[Shane Gillis]

He's nice.

[Joe Rogan]

They'll ban the out of you. The law's initial list of restricted platforms includes Facebook, Instagram, x tick tock, YouTube, Snapchat, Reddit, threads, Kick and Twitch. Other platforms including Stream, steam, Blue Sky, WhatsApp and YouTube Kids were considered but not included in the ban. So that's true. So Blue sky, which is just Twitter but for super hardcore lefties, is not included in the band.

[Shane Gillis]

Did they ban True Social?

[Joe Rogan]

Doesn't seem we have to find out. Put that into perplexity. Find out if the Australian ban includes True Social.

[Shane Gillis]

They're banning Trump's tweets.

[Joe Rogan]

Imagine if you get on on True social when you're 13. They'll let you buck wild. But Blue Ski's just like tanking kids.

[Shane Gillis]

That's wild.

[Joe Rogan]

Turning kids trans left and right.

[Jamie]

Reddit's available. That's.

[Shane Gillis]

I thought it just said Reddit was not.

[Joe Rogan]

They said Reddit was one of the band.

[Jamie]

The link I just clicked said it could extend the Reddit, Twitch and Roblox, even dating apps.

[Joe Rogan]

But oh, some people are bribing them.

[Shane Gillis]

Let's be honest.

[Joe Rogan]

Roblox people are bribing them.

[Shane Gillis]

Reddit's a little. Yeah, this is Loretta's left leaning.

[Jamie]

Reddit is among the companies that has approached. I think they need to have certain things on their websites and those websites that are banned don't have those blocks of like filters available.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I tell you, I tell you, I tried doing interesting.

[Shane Gillis]

Try to jack off on Reddit. I'll tell you that. Because they born. They, they banned pornhub here.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, I see.

[Shane Gillis]

So I was like, I heard people jack off on Reddit and I try to avoid Reddit and as soon as I, as soon as I opened it, first thing was like, shanghai list sucks now. No, I still got one off, but it was a tough one.

[Joe Rogan]

There's a lot of mean, angry people out there, Shane. Yeah, a lot of people are not happy for sure. That is a. That's the porn thing's a weird one too because kids know about VPNs. You're just keeping stupid kids from jerking off.

[Shane Gillis]

It's probably good.

[Joe Rogan]

You want the stupid ones out of common so they're not making dumb decisions.

[Shane Gillis]

You're making another good point.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, you want them all dried out.

[Shane Gillis]

You sound like you're tweeting on Blueski.

[Joe Rogan]

All those stupid kids just want them jerking off. As much as possible, we should like you to have an IQ test to see if you could get porn. And that IQ test should be really making sure you're dumb. And if you're too smart, you.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, like if you pass it, you gotta go study.

[Shane Gillis]

You go study.

[Joe Rogan]

But you hit like a 65 jack and the. They just go, go ahead, jack off.

[Shane Gillis]

Jack off.

[Joe Rogan]

Imagine that. That would be a way that would keep dumb people like sedated. Just give them as much. Maybe that's what they're doing to us, to all of us. Just keep giving us live porn 24 7. Anytime you want it, hop on a website. It's a good way to keep dumb people just dried up outages.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

The point be, no motivations.

[Shane Gillis]

Pretty crazy. Used to, you know, it's a classic bit, but you gotta used to it used to be an ordeal to get your hands on that.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Now it's just like I'll be watching a. I was watching Revolutionary War doc last night. In between, I was just like, pause. All right, let's see what happened to Ticonderoga.

[Joe Rogan]

1 of 99 of the population of men with there alone. Yeah, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm watching Ken Burns. Revolution, right? Seahawks, Seahawks, Rams just finished up. Classic game. Toss on some Revolutionary war started dragging a little. I said it. Pause. Jack off. I didn't know Benedict Arnold was the hero of Ticonderoga.

[Joe Rogan]

Now you're actually interested and not distracted.

[Shane Gillis]

Fully not distracted.

[Joe Rogan]

Do you know John Lilly? The guy who invented the sensory deprivation tank?

[Shane Gillis]

No, I don't.

[Joe Rogan]

He. He was involved.

[Shane Gillis]

Cracking him off in there.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

He definitely had a family. He was like, this is a chamber that no one can go in. He was jacking off, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

Probably. But more importantly, he also ran this research where they were working with dolphins. It was like he was a pioneer in interspecies communication. So they were attempting to. To teach dolphins how to speak. And so this lady, I'm not bullshitting.

[Shane Gillis]

Here, I know this lady.

[Joe Rogan]

Dumbest idea. They were all on ketamine. Yeah. This lady lived in a house that was like three feet high in water with a dolphin. And the thing was, they found out that she had to jack the coffin off. If she didn't jack the dolphin off, the dolphin would not pay attention.

[Shane Gillis]

I've heard this story. Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

So she would, every day she would jack them off. And they went, what? Cancel this project? Yeah, but this lady's jacking off dolphins.

[Shane Gillis]

I bet you by the hundred with 120th time jacking him off, he was like, oh, holy.

[Joe Rogan]

The problem with dolphins is they don't have lips. Right? So they make a totally different kind of sound. You can't get them to sound like a human. And these idiots are like, get. Hello. He's like, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

I swear to God, the Nazis are trying to get dogs to talk.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, I bet they were.

[Shane Gillis]

Everyone's trying to.

[Joe Rogan]

Was that Jerry?

[Shane Gillis]

Everyone's trying to get animals to talk.

[Jamie]

Sound on. It's the documentary.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you got? What is it?

[Jamie]

The whole documentary called the dolphin house.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, about the place where this lady lived. Yeah. That's Lily. That's the guy, I think.

[Shane Gillis]

I hate to be this guy, but I would hit pause on that documentary and crack one off fully. I'd be disappointed in myself.

[Joe Rogan]

So this lady just lived with a dolphin. Where was this? Where were they? Like, where was the house?

[Shane Gillis]

Damn.

[Joe Rogan]

She's had to jack that dolphin off all the time.

[Shane Gillis]

Think if that was your wife. And then this documentary comes out later and you're like, what?

[Joe Rogan]

What did you do? Also, again, I did research. I did scientific research. You get off my back.

[Shane Gillis]

I know.

[Joe Rogan]

I was young and single.

[Shane Gillis]

We hadn't even met yet.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't care. You didn't tell me we were engaged. You were jacking off dolphins for research?

[Shane Gillis]

Depends. How long you OK?

[Joe Rogan]

Get all really testy?

[Jamie]

St. Thomas.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay, but the bummer thing is the dolphin doesn't want to be in that stupid little house. The dolphin wants to be out there swimming after a while.

[Shane Gillis]

He did.

[Joe Rogan]

After he got a few panties. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

[Shane Gillis]

That's the jackpot. Right? Put him in a house. He's in the house. They're feeding him. He's getting jacked off.

[Joe Rogan]

You want to hear a dark truth about dolphins? Female dolphins are very promiscuous. We should make sure this is true.

[Jamie]

True.

[Shane Gillis]

Because I've been our female dolphin sluts.

[Joe Rogan]

And I think they think the theory is because when they have babies, it takes a long time for them to raise their baby. And they won't breed while they're taking care of their babies. I think it's like several years. And so the males will kill babies of a female they haven't slept with. Yes. So they can get them to. They'll kill the baby of a female that they haven't slept. Slept. Slept with. So the females sleep with as much as many men as possible so that the dolphin doesn't know whether or not it's his kids.

[Shane Gillis]

That's cool.

[Joe Rogan]

It is.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But it's also like, yo, how ruthless is everybody?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, Dolphins are supposed to be our peaceful spiritual cousins that live in the ocean. And meanwhile they regular kill babies and they force their ladies into being hoes so they don't think their baby's killed.

[Shane Gillis]

Whenever you look at animals, you gotta think about, think about what we do. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

If male dolphins kill the babies of female dolphins they haven't had sex with.

[Shane Gillis]

You gotta think about what we do. And then you think dolphins are dumber than us. They're probably doing crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know if they are dumber than us. That's what's weird. They just can't better be. They can't affect their environment. We, we assume that intelligence is only the ability to manipulate your environment. That's what we assume because we, we associate intelligence with all the stuff that we created. But we don't even know what the they're saying. You know, we haven't been able to decipher their language. They have very specific languages.

[Shane Gillis]

She was probably two or three jack offs away from finding out she was right on the cusp. And they're like, you dumb whore, get out of here.

[Joe Rogan]

She needed more funding. They just needed more funding. Male dolphins sometimes kill calves sired by other males to bring the mother back into estra sooner. Yeah. Allowing them to mate and pass on their genes. Behavior called infanticide observed in species like bottlenose and Pacific white sided dolphins. Yeah.

[Jamie]

These makes them have like a high speed race. It says to find the best agile partner.

[Shane Gillis]

Jeez, most agile you gotta win. That'd be a terrible race.

[Joe Rogan]

That's crazy.

[Jamie]

By several males on high speed chases.

[Shane Gillis]

They hit him with the gun, the cone drill.

[Joe Rogan]

Yet females show selectivity them for agile partners and can control fertilization via vaginal structure. Oh, so a guy could nut in them and they'd like, no, no, baby, you.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, that's a nice thing.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just a nut. That's a nice.

[Shane Gillis]

Girls could do that.

[Joe Rogan]

Imagine that. If they just come up with that instead of abortion. They just go, oh, we're just going to give you a dolphin. Just lock it down.

[Jamie]

Look at this. Next.

[Joe Rogan]

Just when you get the guy nuts and you lock it down. Okay. Make an agreement. You got gonna. You sure you're gonna lock it down? You told me you want babies.

[Shane Gillis]

Swear to God.

[Joe Rogan]

No, no, I'm locking it down for you.

[Shane Gillis]

You swear to God.

[Jamie]

The question Are female dolphins sluts, right?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Females participate in same sex genital rubbing, masturbation and pleasure. Pleasure seeking via functional couture is rich in nerves, indicating sex serves social enjoyment roles beyond Procreation up to 75% of dolphin sexual activity may prioritize pleasure or alliances over breeding. Males often coerce via alliances, but females evade or reposition to exert choice. So they scissor. Female scissoring in the dolphin community.

[Shane Gillis]

I like it.

[Joe Rogan]

We broke that news here.

[Shane Gillis]

Bring that up. There's a dusky dolphin. Dude, what's that one doing? Just boys in Penn State's locker room. No, a couple now he's ready to roll.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh no. Oh no. Dusky dolphin. Yeah. So like when, when we. We think about like peaceful creatures on earth, we're the most. We're number one. We're the most peaceful.

[Shane Gillis]

There's no chance.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah. As warlike as we are, as far as intelligent.

[Shane Gillis]

Okay, all right, all right. I'll give you. Well, no, dude, what are. There's got to be some peaceful dolphins.

[Joe Rogan]

Must be going to war with each other, right?

[Shane Gillis]

There's no way those hyraxes. Hyraxes aren't doing anything and no, there's no way.

[Joe Rogan]

We're the most people, the most peaceful. Are those, those chimpanzees, the bonobos or the.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, they.

[Joe Rogan]

All they do is each other. Yeah, bonobos are wild. They look a lot like chimps, just a little softer. Yeah, and all they do is just get it on.

[Shane Gillis]

Who are those guys with those big noses? Oh, those are funny guys.

[Joe Rogan]

Those are weird. That's a weird look. How about the ones when their lights up? When they want to. Their becomes like a target.

[Shane Gillis]

They do that.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, bro, this is.

[Shane Gillis]

Put a light up in. They put butt plugs.

[Joe Rogan]

Really? Oh, bro. Pull that bucky back. Look at this guy's face. How are you?

[Shane Gillis]

Hold on. Can you get him making a noise? They're very funny. Yeah, that's the physique I'm going for.

[Joe Rogan]

There was an old school comedian that had this big crazy nose and they would call him the Schnoz. Who the am I thinking of? Like old old timey movies. They'd call him the Schnoz. That's it. Jimmy Durante.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, he does look like a proboscis.

[Joe Rogan]

A lot like one. But his whole thing was like his nose was huge.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, you got bro Schnoz.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a hell of a schnauz.

[Shane Gillis]

No other way to describe that.

[Joe Rogan]

Ari Shafir would make fun of his nose. Yeah, look, I mean all of his photo, all the, you know, caricatures. His nose is preposterous.

[Shane Gillis]

He aged into it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, worked out.

[Shane Gillis]

You're a young man with that nose.

[Joe Rogan]

That's tough. Tough Time.

[Shane Gillis]

This is nice, bro. Wait till you hear this talk nose like a man knows like a man. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What?

[Shane Gillis]

I like those guys. They have to be peaceful.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a weird face, man.

[Shane Gillis]

Imagine if they were women look like now. Yeah, for real. Exactly what women look like.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a Michael Jackson thing. Yeah, bro. Imagine if that was 10ft tall was trying to kill your baby. You know what I'm saying?

[Shane Gillis]

Whoa.

[Joe Rogan]

What did they do in a past life to come back as that? They must have been really mean. They must have been a really mean person.

[Shane Gillis]

What are you talking about, dude?

[Joe Rogan]

There must have been a really mean person in past life. Yo, bro. Jesus. That's. That's like a man. That's like a really evil man from the past has been reincarnated as this up monkey. Like he's kind of conscious that something's wrong. Why am I not in my medieval manner? Ha.

[Shane Gillis]

You're at the Baltimore.

[Joe Rogan]

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[Shane Gillis]

Close your eyes, exhale.

[Joe Rogan]

Feel your body relax. And let go of whatever you're carrying today. Well, I'm letting go of the worry.

[Shane Gillis]

That I wouldn't get my new contacts.

[Joe Rogan]

In time for this class.

[Shane Gillis]

I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh, they're so fast. And breathe. Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, sorry. Namaste.

[Shane Gillis]

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[Joe Rogan]

1-800-Contacts. Just getting stared at by little kids.

[Shane Gillis]

This is good stuff.

[Joe Rogan]

What was that other one? The Michael Jackson one.

[Shane Gillis]

I like that.

[Joe Rogan]

The nose was one.

[Shane Gillis]

What was that? Tiny little guy.

[Joe Rogan]

That tiny little guy was terrifying. It was huge. You know, it was real big and giant. You get? It would suck to get killed by a giant cute thing. Thing.

[Shane Gillis]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Rogan]

Like a giant fluffy. You know, like, some of the monkeys are really cute. Like, if he was like Golden Snub Nose six inches tall, he would be really cute. Like, oh, my God, he's so cute. If he was 10ft tall, he would be terrified.

[Shane Gillis]

Terrifying snowman. Look at that thing.

[Joe Rogan]

That's what I'm saying, bro. That Thing got some fangs. Terrifying. It's got like a bat nose. Look at his creepy ass nose. That's. That would rip your face right off. Just jump on your face. You wouldn't be able to pull it off. Your nose would be gone.

[Shane Gillis]

That rules, right?

[Joe Rogan]

But if it's 10ft tall, it doesn't rule. I think standing outside your village waiting for you to dog to go outside, that's the big man. Why are they so cute when they're little? But if that thing was giant and had fangs. If it was 10ft tall. But it wouldn't be. It was big and scary. It would have a scary face.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like why is that? Why do the little ones. What is cute? Why do the little ones have literally have a cute face that if you made that thing big.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It wouldn't be as scary.

[Shane Gillis]

Maybe that's our instinct to think babies are cute. So we don't throw them. Maybe you see that guy? You go, he's great.

[Joe Rogan]

See what the dolphins do?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Maybe like it's like built into a.

[Shane Gillis]

But there's a lot of stepdads listening to this right now, getting dolphin impulses. I wish I could kill that little.

[Joe Rogan]

It is weird though, right? Cuz all the big scary things look scary.

[Shane Gillis]

Grizzlies are kind of cute.

[Joe Rogan]

No, they're not. No, I was telling you that was the only thing I've ever seen in the wild.

[Shane Gillis]

Cute grizzly.

[Joe Rogan]

The only thing I've ever seen in the wild.

[Shane Gillis]

Polar bears are kind of cute, fellas. Obviously they're terrifying, but if he was one feet tall, you'd go, that's an adorable guy.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a good point.

[Shane Gillis]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Rogan]

Until he was like tearing apart a.

[Shane Gillis]

Seal bigger than you. Yeah, bro. What are you talking about? Look at that.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a cub, first of all.

[Shane Gillis]

That's still good. Look at these guys walking. Show them walking. Jmo, get him walking.

[Joe Rogan]

It's pretty cute. Now show Kodiak brown bear eating a moose. Put that in there. Kodiak brown bear eating a moose, bro. There's one of them that got this moose off the side of the road and was dragging it uphill. The moose is like 1200 pounds.

[Shane Gillis]

The one during the wedding.

[Joe Rogan]

Which one is that? Oh yeah. There's a wedding and there's a wedding.

[Shane Gillis]

And then on the other side of the fucking river there's just a grizzly tearing apart a moose.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, they. They got married in Alaska. Whoops.

[Shane Gillis]

Dude, how do you kill a moose?

[Joe Rogan]

Bro, they can kill anything. They literally kill anything. I mean he's just riding his back, drowning him. That reminds me. Look at this. He's just hanging onto his back. Look at this. So cute. That's a moose. Man. Moose are so big.

[Shane Gillis]

That video, that guy in the. That moose comes up to him. I sent it in the group chat or. You did?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

It's the scariest animal I've ever seen.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, they're scary.

[Shane Gillis]

It's like a dinosaur. It's terrifying.

[Joe Rogan]

So big.

[Jamie]

Dude.

[Shane Gillis]

There's a guy hunting and a moose just comes up to him and is like staring at him. I don't know how to describe it.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, they're so huge.

[Shane Gillis]

This is not it, but still terrible.

[Joe Rogan]

Not it, but still. That's not even a really big one. That moose like the one that you see in the car. Actually, that's a pretty big one. His paddles are just going the wrong way. Yeah, that's huge.

[Shane Gillis]

Whoa. Yeah, don't do that.

[Jamie]

Also borderline looks like AI, but it's probably not.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, a lot of them are right now. That's a problem. Almost everything is getting tricked left and right.

[Jamie]

There's like the giant cat walking up to save its baby.

[Shane Gillis]

Like, come on.

[Joe Rogan]

Moose are not afraid of you, though. That's one thing. That's true. But generally they're very aggressive and depending upon what time of the year they'll. Your car up, man.

[Shane Gillis]

It's not it jmo, but I still. I don't want to see a moose get shot. You love that. I don't want to see those boys get shot.

[Joe Rogan]

Have you ever eaten moose meat?

[Shane Gillis]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

It's delicious. It's really good. It's the reason why bears try so hard to kill them.

[Shane Gillis]

Really?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, I get it.

[Joe Rogan]

So they're cute up to a point. Bears, yeah, they're cute up until they're about 2 years old.

[Shane Gillis]

We were talking about earlier, I don't like black bear's eyes. Bears do have shitty eyes. They're so. They're so close to being cute. They got weird looking eyes.

[Joe Rogan]

One of the weird things about like, yeah, this one.

[Shane Gillis]

Look at that. Oh, yeah. He's looking at him like, dude, I.

[Joe Rogan]

Will you up is what he's saying. Look how big he is. That's why they're scarier than every other deer because they'll come you up, just be your ass. Stomp you to death. Stomp you to death. And this guy is being smart by staying between the trees. This is very dangerous. Like if he was out in an open field, he'd be spill right now. If he couldn't get to cover to. To a bunch of trees. Look at these guys. Like Duke in and out in a driveway, way. Their car up.

[Shane Gillis]

Why do. Why do dogs just run straight into that? You see dogs do that.

[Joe Rogan]

They're dumb because we took them from wolves and turned them into little.

[Shane Gillis]

Dude, I've seen deer. Just dogs up. There's a lot of those compilations.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah, they start doing this. Yeah, but a lot of dogs killed.

[Shane Gillis]

There's that classic of that guy putting. It's an old one, but he put deer piss all over him. And then a buck comes and just beats the out. He doesn't get a shot off. He gets his ass beat. Just turn the camera off.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God. What a. Oh, that's like the number one hunting in America is white tailed deer.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, Number one. Pennsylvania. Yeah, by far where I'm from. Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Iowa. Iowa and pa, right?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Well, my family lived in Harrisburg for a while. My parents did.

[Shane Gillis]

I always forget. That's insane.

[Joe Rogan]

I just go to visit them.

[Shane Gillis]

You should have been a Harris.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm like, you got deer everywhere.

[Shane Gillis]

You could have been a Central PA Man. You would have. You would have never done anything.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, you did. Talking about. Shut up.

[Shane Gillis]

You would have. You would have been chilling.

[Joe Rogan]

I doubt it.

[Shane Gillis]

You would have been an Elks. You would have been an Elks bar. You would have met Phil.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't think I'm designed for that. I know. I would not be happy chilling. I know.

[Shane Gillis]

If you were from Central pa, You'd be into college football.

[Joe Rogan]

You love it all.

[Shane Gillis]

It rules.

[Joe Rogan]

I just have to assume that who I am now, I would always have been.

[Shane Gillis]

No, that's silly.

[Joe Rogan]

No, like the way I like things. The things I like.

[Shane Gillis]

No, you would have been. You would have been a. You could have been a Notre Dame fan, dude. It could have been so sick. So sick.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I definitely could have been fan, but I still would be doing this. I think I'd be doing the same I'm doing. I'd figure out a way to do something.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

As long as I didn't get saddled down at a young age.

[Shane Gillis]

You go to the Ad El Bar.

[Joe Rogan]

Get married at 18. Yep.

[Shane Gillis]

Drink and drive home. Your babe's there. She's probably.

[Joe Rogan]

You got a dad now at 18.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, but then that's when your fanhood of college football becomes greater. You go, dude, I get three hours on Saturday. I can't wait. Who do we have? Ah, Central Michigan. It's gonna be a blowout. Whatever. I'm gonna have beers. That's good. Stuff. Then you get to golf. You go, I suck at golf. Who gives a. I'm getting wasted. It's a good life. I'm jealous of.

[Joe Rogan]

It does sound like a good life, but it's also a difficult one.

[Shane Gillis]

Like, for sure, but that's the best life.

[Joe Rogan]

Is it?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. Good difficult. Yeah. That's the point.

[Joe Rogan]

Why is it? Why is good and difficult the best life?

[Shane Gillis]

That's what makes. That's what makes going to that bar so sick. You know what I mean?

[Joe Rogan]

Having a shitty job.

[Shane Gillis]

Shitty job. Yeah. You sit down, you go, bro, let me tell you about how shitty my job is.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

You go get hammered and three beers, in you go.

[Joe Rogan]

My job rules.

[Shane Gillis]

My life rules. You know what? I'm gonna go beat the. Out of my wife.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh my God.

[Shane Gillis]

See that Iraq video? Those guys boxing. You go, I'm gonna make her put some headgear on when I get home. Yeah, no, it's good. I don't. Obviously, you know, it's not like the best, but. But it's good life. Drinking and golfing with your friends. Yeah, I. It's funny to watch your friends age into that. Cuz my, My friends were never like that. And now I'll go home and they're like, everyone got fat. Which, that's fun. You see your boys, you go, yeah, it sucks, doesn't it? Yeah. And then they just love just hitting the local bar, getting a couple going home. Hopefully the kids are asleep.

[Joe Rogan]

It's fun.

[Shane Gillis]

Fun. It's fun to watch from a distance. I. I can't, like, I'll go home for the holidays and then my sister will bring her kids over. I'm good for about 30 minutes.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, all the things you said that the fun parts about it is that it's not complicated. You're just having a good time.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And the idea is that if having a good time, you'll have a better time. If the rest of your day sucks, you appreciate those guys more.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I get it. I get it.

[Shane Gillis]

You could have been. You could make great central Pennsylvania. I don't know, Central Western pa. You could have been a Steelers fan. You could have been. Oh, you could have been a contender. Instead you're just doing this. Instead you're doing this crap.

[Joe Rogan]

I think I was always gonna just mostly be interested in one on one sports.

[Shane Gillis]

Maybe.

[Joe Rogan]

For whatever reason, I like team sports. I love watching a running back.

[Shane Gillis]

We could have got you in the slot.

[Joe Rogan]

No, my high school wrestling coach tried to get me to play football and I was like, no, we had this kid his name was Bobby Baker, who's £300. He was our heavyweight. He was huge.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And I was like, me and him would be playing the same game, so he would run over me. That's crazy.

[Shane Gillis]

He couldn't catch you.

[Joe Rogan]

Whatever. That's the whole point.

[Shane Gillis]

Occasionally, they catch you.

[Joe Rogan]

He was huge. I was like, I'm not taking that chance. I was like, no. I wrestled at 134lbs. Bounce. I am not playing football.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, you could have been a contender, Joe.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I didn't like the idea.

[Shane Gillis]

Team sports are awesome.

[Joe Rogan]

I also didn't like the idea of random people being. Charging at you and colliding. I'm like, no, no, no. One in one. Like, somebody figure this out.

[Shane Gillis]

Football, Somebody's hitting you and you're not looking.

[Joe Rogan]

Exactly.

[Shane Gillis]

I like it a lot. You're chasing someone this way, and someone just.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

But then you get them. Then you. The best feeling in the world is when someone's not looking and you get to. It's so sick. Oh, it was my favorite.

[Joe Rogan]

I bet.

[Shane Gillis]

I got it. Thankfully, I played off slipping offense. I got a lot of those. But every once in a while, we'd throw an interception. I had no idea how to pursue a corner. Just run. I'd be. I don't know where to look. I'm getting. I got laid out. Yeah. It's fun. Team sports, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

I get it.

[Shane Gillis]

Camaraderie. You like hunting with those guys. That's a team sport. Sport.

[Joe Rogan]

Not really. You're all going out on your own or you're going out two at a time.

[Shane Gillis]

Okay.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, Like, Cam and I went together, but it's. You like, the thing about team sports that's awesome is the camaraderie.

[Shane Gillis]

Right?

[Joe Rogan]

That's what's awesome. But we still always drive me nuts. When I was playing baseball, I played baseball. I don't want to be a loser because little Billy dropped the ball.

[Shane Gillis]

Baseball is also still kind of an individual sport. There's a lot of indiv. Like. Like a pitcher versus a batter.

[Joe Rogan]

It was the way. The way I played.

[Shane Gillis]

It's very individual. Yeah, I suck. You should have seen what happened to me at baseball.

[Joe Rogan]

I sucked. I sucked.

[Shane Gillis]

I hit puberty and just lost all hand eye coordination for a year. Dude. My last year playing baseball was like, seventh or eighth grade. I don't think I had a hit for an entire season.

[Joe Rogan]

That's hilarious. That's hilarious.

[Shane Gillis]

I remember fifth grade. I got hit by a pitch from a girl. A girl pitcher. And I turned when she was throwing it, and it Hit me right in the back where I lost. I lost. The wind got knocked out of me and I was on first base.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, isn't that crying? It's like when you're a boy and then you hit puberty and all of a sudden your body's weirdly shaped. It moves different. The dynamics are all different.

[Shane Gillis]

Growing.

[Joe Rogan]

You can't walk up stairs, right? You think the stairs are taller than they are. It's weird.

[Shane Gillis]

You grow, grow.

[Joe Rogan]

You grow, you grow. Your dick is hard all the time. Think about those dudes. So distracted.

[Shane Gillis]

Some of my friends grew like. Like a foot.

[Joe Rogan]

In a year.

[Shane Gillis]

In a year. I was like, dude, that must have hurt like hell. That's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Killed. That's so crazy.

[Shane Gillis]

Rock hard. Everything hurts.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, banging into things.

[Shane Gillis]

Ow.

[Joe Rogan]

His shins are all in the way of everything.

[Shane Gillis]

You're dead.

[Joe Rogan]

Like you.

[Shane Gillis]

Dad.

[Joe Rogan]

It hurt. Hilarious.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And no one knows how to do it.

[Shane Gillis]

No. How was it having kids going through puberty? That must have been crazy. I mean, and you have girls, right?

[Joe Rogan]

They. Yeah, they get emotional, but they go for like.

[Shane Gillis]

Because the only time I've seen is my niece, and it's like, she was like the. Your best friend. And then there's like two years where it's like, uncle Shane, you don't have fucking anything. You.

[Joe Rogan]

Luckily, our kids are not like that. They're very communicative. We have, like, a really good way of communicating with each other all the time. There's no, like, hateful.

[Shane Gillis]

No, it was.

[Joe Rogan]

I. I will say you do get some of that from kids.

[Shane Gillis]

All of a sudden, you notice it.

[Joe Rogan]

They get angry at you for enforcing rules and stuff. But they're pretty cool. They're really cool. The thing is, it's like the whirlwind is impossible for everybody to come out flawless. Like, you're getting hormones. Your whole life has changed now a sudden, you like girls or you like boys. And your. Your whole life is now a pursuit of getting girls to like you or getting boys to like you. And then you have friend groups, and then everyone. Then you all have a menstrual cycle that sinks up together. They all get crazy together.

[Shane Gillis]

Dude, those I never even thought about.

[Joe Rogan]

Those exciting menstrual cycles are nuts. They smell each other and all their blood sinks up on the same time.

[Shane Gillis]

Disgusting. And they all get mean for a week together.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

That's why girls don't really have friends.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, there's a lot of reasons why they don't have friends.

[Shane Gillis]

But think about one week a month. You and your friends all are nasty. To each other.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. That's crazy. It is crazy. What do you hear? Do you hear of more like a girl being betrayed. One of. By one of her friends that tries to her husband. You hear about that more than you would hear about a husband trying to someone's wife. Right. That's like a more risky move. So that's probably one of the reasons why girls don't trust girls like that. She should just go, my man.

[Shane Gillis]

And also, the guy will definitely say yes. It's such a. It's an easy one. It'll be a secret between us. Oh, a secret, right? Secret sounds good.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

He might kill me, but.

[Jamie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm watching this show. What is it called? The Beast in me, the new Netflix show, bro. There's the reason why I brought that up. There's a scene where. Spoiler alert. Where a cop is banging this other cop, a female guys. She's married. And it's like one of them things. Yeah. You know, like, there's people out there. Just.

[Shane Gillis]

I think a lot of people.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

That. The show is great, though, that Claire Dane show. Have you seen it?

[Shane Gillis]

No, I haven't. I heard it was good.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it's good.

[Shane Gillis]

Nice.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm only a couple, but it's a good one.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm about done with the revolution. That lady can keep jacking off, though. It's taking forever.

[Joe Rogan]

It.

[Shane Gillis]

I've been watching this thing for six weeks. Keep jacking off. How far are you?

[Joe Rogan]

45 minutes. When you start pressing play, it picks up where you dropped it off. You're 45 minutes in the first episode, bro.

[Shane Gillis]

Ah, man, I wish I could tell you. I'm not joking. I took a picture of it. Cause it was so funny. I jacked off to a. That was all right. When I finished Jack it off. This is at 1:11 in the morning today.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay.

[Shane Gillis]

I looked up, and the screen was a map of the British invasion. As soon as I got done, I was like, oh, they're invading Mohawk territory by Fort Stanwix.

[Joe Rogan]

So I took a photo.

[Shane Gillis]

Took a photo. I said, dude, it's insane to finish and look up and go, what am I doing? What the fuck? That's funny.

[Joe Rogan]

It's so funny.

[Shane Gillis]

You got to give it a watch. Rocks.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

No, you're gonna jack awful. I won't.

[Joe Rogan]

I started it. I started it.

[Shane Gillis]

It's awesome.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, all this stuff's awesome.

[Shane Gillis]

Ken Burns rules.

[Joe Rogan]

He's rules.

[Shane Gillis]

He takes topics that you would go, I'm never gonna watch that.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Rules.

[Joe Rogan]

No, he can do anything.

[Shane Gillis]

Baseball, you go, who. What could be interesting.

[Joe Rogan]

The Vietnam one was excellent.

[Shane Gillis]

Vietnam ruled.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, like, he's really rare because essentially PBS just lets him just put it together, like, now what the way he wants. They don't fuck with him at all.

[Shane Gillis]

Is Trump trying to get rid of pbs?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know.

[Shane Gillis]

Touch my Ken Burns dude.

[Joe Rogan]

My thought, though, is that he can kind of do that anywhere now.

[Shane Gillis]

Sure.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, he could do it on YouTube and it would be massive. Yeah. Imagine if he put a series like that out on YouTube. YouTube.

[Shane Gillis]

Does YouTube pay for that?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, like, no, I mean, pay for downloads. Yeah. But when they paid, like. Like, Netflix would probably do it. Big money.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Anyway, but it's. His stuff is so good. No one cares where it is. They'll find it on pbs. They'll buy the DVD or rent it.

[Shane Gillis]

What budget of PBS is going to Ken Burns, dude? That must be 80. He's there. Stern. Absolutely.

[Joe Rogan]

Absolutely.

[Shane Gillis]

We got one guy.

[Joe Rogan]

He got Ken Bird. Stern just resigned. Good for him. Good for him. Guess he still likes to do it.

[Shane Gillis]

Good.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, how long do you think you'll be doing comedy and podcasting? Do you think you're ever going to get to a point in time?

[Shane Gillis]

I don't know how long I'll do podcasting. I'll probably forever, right? Comedy, for sure. Yeah. Stand up, for sure. But the podcasting is where I get a little, like, you're good at it because you talk about, like, topics and things you're interested in. All I have is me. So after a while, you're like, I don't want to keep putting myself out, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

Right, right, right, right. I know.

[Shane Gillis]

It's good. Like, no privacy.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I know what I'm saying. Yeah. It's like. But you could do a podcast where you talk to anybody as well. You could do.

[Shane Gillis]

I could do a history podcast if.

[Joe Rogan]

I put like, 100.

[Shane Gillis]

I put effort into it. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

100. Yeah, you 100 could.

[Shane Gillis]

Could.

[Joe Rogan]

And you could also do a history podcast where you have an interest in a subject and you know a lot about it, but not, like, enough to do a podcast on it and just bring an expert in and have a conversation with him about it.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, that'd be awesome. I've thought about it. I had a teacher at Harrisburg Area Community College who was a. He was a Gettysburg tour. He was a tour guide. And it's Harrisburg Area Community College. So knowing gave a. And I was taking Civil War history. I was locked in. Dude, this guy loved me. It was me. And ten Other low IQ guys jacking off. And I was just like, so what actually happened at the Battle of Sporting Hill? He was like, that's a great question. It was nice. Tour guides. You ever go to a battlefield?

[Joe Rogan]

No, Nothing to think of, bro.

[Shane Gillis]

Get a tour guide and go to a battlefield. Shit's awesome.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't think I ever have any battlefield field.

[Shane Gillis]

It's awesome. They know everything. It's their whole life.

[Joe Rogan]

They just live it.

[Shane Gillis]

They are there every day. They know every single thing. It's awesome. It's a little weird, but it's cool to be a part of.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay. I'll go with you.

[Shane Gillis]

You can. You can get a guy to, like, at Gettysburg and get him in your car, and you just drive the battlefield.

[Joe Rogan]

Why don't we just go to the Alamo?

[Shane Gillis]

That'd be awesome.

[Joe Rogan]

That's. That anybody could do.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't know much about Texas history. History. Because it was always.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know a whole lot. I know a lot about.

[Shane Gillis]

We get it. We get Texas tour. We could get.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, that's what we need.

[Shane Gillis]

There had to be a battle.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

But see, it always felt like it was like light cavalry and, like, skirmishes.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, there's a lot of that, too. The. The real thing that changed was the pistol.

[Shane Gillis]

And they figured out how to make.

[Joe Rogan]

A revolver because those dudes at muskets did not stand a chance.

[Shane Gillis]

I missed. All right. I got 15 minutes.

[Joe Rogan]

This guy got jacked. The thing about the Comanches, too, is they were really good at riding horses and shooting arrows off the horses. So they just run right at them and shoot. Fill them up with arrows.

[Shane Gillis]

Think about that, though. Like, you see an Indian.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

You go, all right, well, this has worked before. Out east. I could just sit here and shoot at him. Guys riding on the side of his horse, shooting arrows at you.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. The body of his horse.

[Shane Gillis]

He's doing tricks, and then he's gonna eat my family. He's gonna do some weird.

[Joe Rogan]

They did some weird to people.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Did you ever read Empire of the Summer, bro?

[Shane Gillis]

Incredible.

[Joe Rogan]

The scene that they describe where they chop this guy's arms and legs off and then threw him on the fire while he was still alive to watch him squirm. I was like, you. And he's like, that's why they never surrendered. They didn't have surrender in.

[Shane Gillis]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

Their thought process. They're doing die or kill you.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. They're doing the weirdest possible. You got to die after that. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You can't go.

[Shane Gillis]

All right, I'll just go to jail.

[Joe Rogan]

And they were doing that to other Native Americans too, by the way. That. That's what this was about.

[Shane Gillis]

Like they would.

[Joe Rogan]

Their favorite thing was to go on raiding parties.

[Shane Gillis]

Yo, he's just trying to sleep. Yo, some got cut your arms and legs off.

[Joe Rogan]

That's why you can't have that CPAP on. He don't hear the, you know. Full throttle.

[Shane Gillis]

You ever see Hostiles? It's Christian Bale.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't think I did.

[Shane Gillis]

You would love it. I'm sure it rules. I don't think I did the opening scene.

[Joe Rogan]

What year was that from?

[Jamie]

2017.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, no, I definitely did.

[Shane Gillis]

Opening scene is some Comanches attacking settlers. It's great.

[Joe Rogan]

Show me what the poster looks like. I've seen too many movies, dude. My brain.

[Shane Gillis]

Hostiles rules.

[Joe Rogan]

Does it?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

No, I didn't see it. I didn't see it. But I did good things about it.

[Shane Gillis]

Shalom is in that.

[Joe Rogan]

It's almost like there's too many movies and too many good ones slip through the cracks.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, no. This is. Start from the beginning.

[Jamie]

We can't watch it. Skip ahead to get some visuals here. I can't really show it on the screen.

[Shane Gillis]

It's.

[Jamie]

They're getting attacked.

[Shane Gillis]

This guy going it. They're going to take the horses. I'd rather die.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it looks familiar.

[Shane Gillis]

It's great.

[Joe Rogan]

Maybe I did see it anyway.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, it was. But you know what I'd like to see is the Little Bighorn. Never been up there. Custer's Last stand. Ooh, that'd be a cool one.

[Joe Rogan]

Where's that?

[Shane Gillis]

Dakota's. South Dakota. I'm a dumbass if I got which one?

[Joe Rogan]

Wrong? Wrong.

[Shane Gillis]

It's one of the Dakotas.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. That's got to be weird to stand on the ground where all those people died.

[Shane Gillis]

That's a good one. Cuz he was there to hunt them and he ended up running into like the biggest congregation of Native Americans ever.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Smoke.

[Joe Rogan]

They all got together.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. Oh, Montana. What am I at?

[Joe Rogan]

Idiot. Damn.

[Jamie]

Out the middle of nowhere. Wow.

[Joe Rogan]

Imagine the. Just the visual of thinking you're chasing them down and you're hunting them. You're on the attack and you go over the hill and you're like, oh, no.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What is this? A reenactment?

[Jamie]

That's just where it is. That's what it looks like there.

[Joe Rogan]

They probably reenact it every year. Just like the Civil War dorks do.

[Shane Gillis]

I've been to those. I love those. I go to Gettysburg. I would go to Gettysburg and watch it was so sick.

[Joe Rogan]

That's hilarious.

[Shane Gillis]

It was awesome.

[Joe Rogan]

That's hilarious.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. Little big one would be a sick one.

[Joe Rogan]

I was watching this dude, he had a truck, a YouTube video, and he was doing like some upgrade to this truck. And he pointed the front license plate and he said, oh, and here we got a Mississippi license plate. And I was like, what is that? Have you seen the Mississippi. See the. The Mississippi flag for the license.

[Shane Gillis]

Was it just the Confederate flag?

[Joe Rogan]

It kinda. Have you seen the Mississippi flag? See if you can find the Mississippi plaque. Because he had a Mississippi flag. I it up but for his front license plate. And I was like, wait a minute.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, Mississippi held it down for. I think they might still be holding it down.

[Jamie]

I think a recent update, but I think that's what it used to look like.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay. That's crazy. Crazy. That is so wild. So sick.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't give a. Dude, it's sick. Obviously, I understand people having a problem with it. I get it.

[Joe Rogan]

I think.

[Shane Gillis]

Well, I bet that changed. Kind of crazy 2021.

[Joe Rogan]

That's kind of crazy that they kept that Confederate flag in there for so long.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

2020 for 1996 to 2020.

[Joe Rogan]

So that's what it was.

[Shane Gillis]

96.

[Joe Rogan]

So what is it currently?

[Shane Gillis]

Pre 96 might have been. This is just the current.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, they turn into a flower. That's what it is currently. It's a flower. That's hilarious. Well, it wasn't for this dude in his truck.

[Shane Gillis]

That's. The state flags back then were so sick. You at Gettysburg, you can see all the, like, the battle flags they had. South had some good ones.

[Joe Rogan]

Did they?

[Shane Gillis]

North typically stuck with the American flag. But every, you know, your state, it was all state pride. It was cool. They all had slogans, they would talk. It was awesome. It's so cool.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. They're basically Europe and they had reputation. A bunch of countries.

[Jamie]

1894.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow.

[Jamie]

Took it down. 2020. I think what they were doing, all the rest of the Confederate monument stuff.

[Shane Gillis]

That probably 2020, they were like, also Mississippi boys.

[Joe Rogan]

It's so crazy. They wait, imagine. Imagine if somebody still had a swastika in their flag and they were just rocking that. Like, what?

[Jamie]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

Come on, come on, come on. It's just a part of it.

[Shane Gillis]

It's historical.

[Joe Rogan]

It's German with German part of our thing.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, they had good ones and they. You would like that. Each group had like, they had reputations. Like, I think it was the Iron Brigade. It was like these Midwest freaks. So they were all like German and Norwegian. They were all fucking huge.

[Joe Rogan]

Right, right.

[Shane Gillis]

And like they wore big tall black hats to make them even taller. And like the Confederate generals would see those black hats and be like, get out of there. I don't know if that. Well, whatever. They ruled. It's fun. There was a Louisiana silly hats, Louisiana Tigers. They would fucking get you. They're a bunch of friends.

[Joe Rogan]

Imagine like dressing up. Like, look at that photo. Pull that photo up again that you showed the earlier one, the one where they're all like standing there with their suits on.

[Shane Gillis]

On.

[Joe Rogan]

Imagine getting dressed up real nice to go kill people. Look at that. That's so weird.

[Shane Gillis]

No, I like, I'd rather get killed.

[Joe Rogan]

By a guy fucking dressed up. Click on the one in the upper right corner. The. The left hand thumbnails, upper right. Yeah, right there. Look at that dude.

[Shane Gillis]

That's a good guy. He could shoot me.

[Joe Rogan]

But just imagine like, this is how you're getting dressed up to go to war. It's so weird. Looking goofy hat full on post photo.

[Jamie]

With like a fake background like you take.

[Joe Rogan]

Good point.

[Shane Gillis]

Show them the.

[Joe Rogan]

You could do that with like Marines, right? In military dress, right?

[Shane Gillis]

No, they would wear that. No, they didn't have. Show them the zaves.

[Joe Rogan]

What's a zave?

[Shane Gillis]

You're going to like their outfits. Yeah, yeah. Little gay boy outfits. People up. Z, Z, O U V S. I think. Yeah. Oh, boy. Swag, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

Whoa. Where were they?

[Jamie]

MC Hammer pants.

[Joe Rogan]

Where did they.

[Shane Gillis]

North. They were breaking New York.

[Joe Rogan]

No. Really?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Hold this thought, I have to pee.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm with you right back.

[Joe Rogan]

So who are these African fellas? They're from Africa.

[Shane Gillis]

They swagger. Jacked the French. North African.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, so the other guys were where though? That swagger? Where was?

[Shane Gillis]

I think New York. I think. I think the Irish Brigade might have tried it could be wrong, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

When I first saw gangs in New York, I was like, wait, this happened too?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What, so these are the guys?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. It's good. Good swag.

[Joe Rogan]

Where did they live though?

[Shane Gillis]

I think if you look up zwave's American Civil War.

[Joe Rogan]

So these guys fought in the Civil War dressed like that? Yeah.

[Jamie]

Wow.

[Joe Rogan]

Imagine you're hanging out with a bunch of dudes and everyone's dressing like, bro.

[Shane Gillis]

That was the Drip. That was the coolest group of dudes.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at these guys. What's with the hats? That's a crazy look. So how many of those were from the area where this.

[Jamie]

Chicago. From the force.

[Joe Rogan]

First one, huh. He formed the first American company inspired by North African Light infantry, known as the Zwaves. That had won distinction in both Algeria and Crimea. Bro. That part of the world. That's one of the things about like when Russian fighters fight in the ufc. I always have to like, I got my little calculations, like this guy, he.

[Shane Gillis]

He strike.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm like, he's from where? Oh, he's from Chechnya.

[Shane Gillis]

Well, he's going to win.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he's probably going to this guy up.

[Jamie]

Check out what the description is here.

[Joe Rogan]

A fellow who can pull up 110 pound dumbbell who can climb up an 80 foot rope hand over hand with a barrel flour hanging to his heels. Hanging to his heels. I don't know what that means. Who can jump 17ft 4 inches high without a springboard?

[Shane Gillis]

17Ft high. They must have been crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Who can tie his legs in a double bow knot round his neck without previously softening his shin bones in a steam bath? What? Who can take a five shooting revolver in each hand and knock the spots off the 10 of diamonds at 80 paces, turning somersaults all the time and firing every shot in the air? That's a zave. All right. Whose quote is this? That's a silly quote of Western. He was gay for the zombies.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I'll tell you what they can do. This guy. This guy's doing back flips and shooting cards.

[Jamie]

Yeah. It's supposed to be an exaggeration. Apparently.

[Shane Gillis]

Of course you can't jump 20ft.

[Joe Rogan]

Nobody could do that at first.

[Shane Gillis]

I was with you.

[Joe Rogan]

He said he should shot the. The spades at 80 yards. What do you say? 80 paces?

[Jamie]

Yeah. It says Americans were going nuts over the new kind of fighting force.

[Joe Rogan]

80 paces is kind of crazy.

[Shane Gillis]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

How far is 80 bases? What does that mean when they say 80?

[Shane Gillis]

I got it right. New York.

[Joe Rogan]

I feel good about that. So it's just like if you just a full step, I guess, but it's. Everybody's step is longer or shorter.

[Shane Gillis]

True.

[Joe Rogan]

So what is it like? Like you're fighting a card with a fucking musket at 80 yards. You know how retarded that is?

[Shane Gillis]

If you're doing a draw or a duel against a short guy, you're, dude, he's going to hit 10 paces real quick, get shot in the back.

[Joe Rogan]

I think everybody has a count, is ready, aim, fire.

[Shane Gillis]

10 paces. This is the.

[Jamie]

This is the first guy. It also says he was the first union officer to die in combat.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a dork.

[Shane Gillis]

He was trying to wear cool clothes.

[Jamie]

Yeah. My first thought is how the. How would a law student in Chicago have read about these guys? Fighting and, you know, in Africa, it was a dork. Read a newspaper article.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he probably way too into looking good and not really thinking about the war part of it. Just, you know, then all of a.

[Shane Gillis]

Sudden, first Manassas comes around, we're gonna whip them.

[Joe Rogan]

Watch out.

[Shane Gillis]

They have guns, too. Yeah. There's some good last quotes from Gettysburg or from just the Civil War. They're hilarious because it's guys talking like that back. Like, I just remember one from Gettysburg where a guy's last quote was like, what are you guys ducking for? They couldn't hit an elephant from that distance and get shot in the head.

[Joe Rogan]

Who said that to him? He said that to, like, a transcriber.

[Shane Gillis]

All of his boys. All of his boys were ducking and hiding behind rocks, and he was like, come on. What are you guys, pussies? They couldn't hid an elephant from this distance since. Oh, popped.

[Joe Rogan]

Get popped in the head.

[Shane Gillis]

Tough last one. Yeah. You want your last words to be cool?

[Joe Rogan]

How accurate were those rifles? Even, like, the rifles that they used. So they use ball. They use those balls?

[Shane Gillis]

No, they started getting rifling.

[Joe Rogan]

They started getting rifling?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Real bullets.

[Shane Gillis]

So Gettysburg was 63. So by then they were definitely right.

[Joe Rogan]

Because the Comanche, when they were fighting the Comanche, the. That they had already introduced the cult, I think, in, like, 1850. When did Colt invent the revolver? Oh, here it goes.

[Shane Gillis]

I feel like, officers, what year is this?

[Joe Rogan]

So 1861 is. It says model 1861. That's a rifled musket. 1855. That's another rifled musket. It says rifle. Okay, that's. It doesn't say rifled musket. It says rifle. But it has a flintlock. Like, the whole thing. It looks the same. But then Navy Colt. Navy revolver. It doesn't say what year. Oh, it says weapons of the Civil War. So they had revolvers at least. Okay.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. At least the officers did. And then the cavalry had those carbines and.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, scroll back up again to that image, the one that you just showed. Okay. So those bottom ones, they look like actual rifles. That looks like. Like a long pistol. Right. So I bet they had a bullet. Right? Those aren't muskets. Right.

[Jamie]

Top this mini ball thing.

[Joe Rogan]

Mmm. Interesting.

[Shane Gillis]

But they definitely had, like.

[Joe Rogan]

It seems like they had pistols.

[Shane Gillis]

The south definitely had some guys with some muskets coming out.

[Joe Rogan]

So what year did Colt invent the pistol? Because I think they started using them. The Texas Rangers started using them first before the military even Used them. That was the story in Empire the summer moon. Right. Which is crazy that someone wouldn't want to buy something that can shoot five rounds.

[Shane Gillis]

36. Damn.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow. 1836, the revolver. 1831, he invented the first practical revolver in 1831. Received a US patent for the revolving wing cylinder design on February 25th, 1836. So in 1831, this invented it. 1836, he gets the patent and nobody wanted it. We don't want it. We don't want to pay for your crazy revolver.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, you can stab with that.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm an old school musket guy.

[Shane Gillis]

You know, I want to take 10.

[Joe Rogan]

Minutes this guy each shot. These guys that are like old school in everything, there's going to be always, always guys that are old school musket guys. Look at that thing.

[Jamie]

Wow.

[Joe Rogan]

What is that little thing on the side? Is that the gunpowder? That doesn't make sense. Like how did that work? That they do have. Like when did they invent bullets?

[Jamie]

Had to put, I think make their own bullets like on.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh my God. They had to make their own bullets. That's crazy. Of course.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. Yeah.

[Jamie]

If you ran out.

[Joe Rogan]

So you probably have the cartridges. You pack all your in there and you got your little fake top. I bet they sucked. I bet they. Half the time they didn't go off. Right.

[Jamie]

Yeah. They probably had the gun before they had the ammo invented.

[Joe Rogan]

Right? Maybe. Yeah, probably.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Because.

[Shane Gillis]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

How would he. He would have. I bet the first one they had handmade ammo. When did they start mass producing ammo where you could just go buy ammo?

[Jamie]

I think that would be like World War I.

[Shane Gillis]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

Slightly.

[Jamie]

I. I've actually just read about this. I mean a little bit before American.

[Shane Gillis]

Civil War, they would have mass produced ammo.

[Joe Rogan]

Some.

[Jamie]

But we didn't have giant factories back then. So they started converting factories to do stuff.

[Shane Gillis]

Wow.

[Jamie]

And then big war comes and you may start making money off of it.

[Joe Rogan]

So that's a problem that like manufacturing goes big up. When there's a nice fat war. People get real excited. A lot of jobs, it's like don't get addicted to that.

[Shane Gillis]

Well, maybe we did.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, we definitely did. Imagine like growing up in the 50s, the kind of patriotism people must have had after winning World War II.

[Shane Gillis]

You'd feel so. Dude, it'd be so sick.

[Joe Rogan]

Would be incredible, be awesome. It must have been amazing. We were Americans.

[Shane Gillis]

We saved the world.

[Joe Rogan]

That was the narrative.

[Shane Gillis]

And then Vietnam it all up and.

[Joe Rogan]

People couldn't believe it. I thought we were the good Guys, we went to the good wars. Just makes you wonder how many times have we been tricked? Like, how many times have people been tricked?

[Shane Gillis]

Don't get into that a lot. Don't get into that thought process.

[Joe Rogan]

I love getting.

[Shane Gillis]

Wait a second.

[Joe Rogan]

What's that, Jamie?

[Jamie]

Celebrations of Victory Day.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at all these people holding up signs to say peace. Everybody's so happy, they know they're gonna get to live. You only get that happy when you think you were gonna die. If there was no war and these people just said, let's have a celebration for being an American.

[Shane Gillis]

Black guy dead center. It's not nice.

[Jamie]

How do you get everybody to look at the camera?

[Shane Gillis]

One black dude dead center.

[Joe Rogan]

Some guy had a bullhorn, I guess. Everyone, please look.

[Shane Gillis]

There's definitely one camera. No problem.

[Joe Rogan]

We're going to take a. That might be AI. Seems like there too many people.

[Shane Gillis]

No, I believe that picture. That's AI.

[Jamie]

It's like Time Square and everything.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a cover of an album.

[Shane Gillis]

It looks good.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a Pink Floyd album down here too.

[Jamie]

I mean, maybe, maybe not, but it's just. I guess if you see one camera, it wants to be in the picture, but.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What is that? Come on, son. Is that.

[Shane Gillis]

There were like four cameras. They were probably like, holy, a camera's here.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, right?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Everybody look up here.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. And back then, everyone was taking orders also.

[Joe Rogan]

It might be AI.

[Shane Gillis]

No, those are real. I believe those.

[Jamie]

I do too.

[Joe Rogan]

It might be a simulation. Do you imagine being there, though? What a party. I bet everybody just. Everybody ever. They probably went crazy for, like, days just drinking and getting your on.

[Shane Gillis]

Then that hangover hits you, oh, back to the bar. I gotta go to work.

[Joe Rogan]

Crazy.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. All that PTSD those guys just got, you know, coming home, drinking a couple beers. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Liberating a camp, seeing all that going.

[Joe Rogan]

Trench warfare.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. World War I.

[Joe Rogan]

How about what those people come back from watching their buddies getting eaten by wolves over in. For some reason, you're in Europe.

[Shane Gillis]

Welcome to our ugly home.

[Joe Rogan]

Reddit is back. For a historically hideous season. It's our 100th ugly. This place is mayhem. That is impressive. And if these walls could talk. Do you cry a lot? I do. They'd have a lot to say. What in God's name is this pit? Don't get too close.

[Shane Gillis]

If you've seen the show.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm scared of that. Ugliest house in America. Season premiere, Wednesday, January 7th at 8 on HGTV. Hey, what's up, y'? All? Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair My favorite thing.

[Shane Gillis]

About the holidays, Decking out my whole house.

[Jamie]

It's not a competition.

[Joe Rogan]

But if it was, well, well, I'd win the season with Wayfair Outdoor inflatable Santa.

[Shane Gillis]

Got it on Wayfair.

[Joe Rogan]

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[Shane Gillis]

Visit Wayfair.com or the Wayfair app to win the season.

[Joe Rogan]

But again, it's not a competition.

[Shane Gillis]

Wayfair Every style, every home.

[Joe Rogan]

Some reason we're fighting Germany. Why? So you got flown in for some.

[Shane Gillis]

Reason in World War I. Why? For that reason. Record.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, the. The craziest thing in World War I was a lot of crazy things. But the Fritz Haber story, what's that? Fritz Haber is the guy that invented Zyklon B. Right. Oh, so he invented Zyklon A. He was the first inventor of it. But he invented it as a pesticide and it had a very distinct odor. And then Zyklon B, they removed that odor. He also invented gas. He invented. He invented a bunch of shit. One of the things he invented is a way to get nitrogen out of the atmosphere. It's called the Haber method. And to this day like 50 of the nitrogen in people's bodies in a lot of places in the world is through the Haber method. So that, that revolutionized fertilizer so you can get nitrogen from the air. He figured this out at the same time he was using gas to bounce to fucking kill the allied troops with giant fans. So at the same time he was up for a Nobel Prize. He was also wanted for war crimes. And he was Jewish.

[Shane Gillis]

So eventually the guy who invented Cyclone B was Jewish.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. And eventually he had a fleet.

[Shane Gillis]

Talk about your all time backfires.

[Joe Rogan]

They kept him around for a while. They tried because he was so valuable because he came up with the gas. Yeah. And then eventually he had a fleet. They didn't kill him, but they let him flee the country and he died on the road. He died like in transit.

[Shane Gillis]

It.

[Joe Rogan]

He had a bad heart, I believe. Oh, it's a terrible story, dude. Is. There's worse to it. His wife committed suicide in front of him and he left anyway to go to the front lines. And he left his like 13 year old son with her as she was dying. Yeah, she shot herself in front of.

[Shane Gillis]

Him and he was like it. I'm going to.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I'm going to the front line.

[Shane Gillis]

He's probably going to kill himself.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a, It's a crazy story. Damn crazy story.

[Shane Gillis]

Story. It's a good movie.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but imagine like you've invented this thing that unquestionably helped so many human beings. You figured out how to get nitrogen from the atmosphere and you could use it as industrial fertilizer. How much food was grown, how many people were fed, how many, how many starving people were prevented because of this guy's method. Yet at the same time he figured out you could just gas people. Just send poison through the air and everybody downwind. Dead men, women, children, medical workers, dogs, cats, pigs, you, it's a cloud of poison with giant fans just blowing poison towards you. But I mean, you know, why is it better to shoot people? Why is it better what we do?

[Shane Gillis]

No, it's way better.

[Joe Rogan]

The gas.

[Shane Gillis]

No shooting people. Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, do you hear those stories of getting gassed the nicest way.

[Shane Gillis]

Those are the worst things I've ever heard.

[Joe Rogan]

Is a big news. That's the nicest. He just goes.

[Shane Gillis]

Unless you're on the slight, slight outskirts, then you're getting burned.

[Joe Rogan]

You know the craziest thing that anybody said to me on the podcast recently, this dude was talking, we were talking about UFOs and one of the things that he said was that one of the ways that they had described one of the things that they're working on that they thought was a back engineered craft, the way they described it as a simultaneous nuclear payload delivery system. Meaning that the moment you want it. Or instantaneous? Yeah, instantaneous. Instantaneously. Like it literally shows up wherever you want it to be and delivers the nuclear bomb. Like there's no delay, there's nothing. Because it's operating on some sort of a gravity propulsion system that bends space around it and rockets it towards whatever that point in time or point on the map you want it to be. Instantaneously. Imagine if the fucking. This is the reason why the aliens haven't landed is because we gave, they came here, they dropped off some UFOs. They said, hey guys, figure this out. This is how we travel. And we said, wouldn't it be cool to just use people instantly we could.

[Shane Gillis]

Gun on this thing.

[Joe Rogan]

And that's how they described it. Instantaneous nuclear payload delivery system. And I was like, that might be the most terrifying thing that any. Because what kind of of sociopaths are in control of the UFO program if the first thing they do with it is figured out how to make a nuke? Go instantly anywhere you want in year.

[Shane Gillis]

What year did all the UFO start?

[Joe Rogan]

It all started after the when was Roswell? 47.

[Shane Gillis]

That's straight to put a nuke on this thing.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

That's all they were thinking about.

[Joe Rogan]

That's all they're thinking of.

[Shane Gillis]

It's the only thing they're thinking about. We can figure this out.

[Joe Rogan]

We're putting a new way.

[Shane Gillis]

We can kill everybody.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, they. I mean, they just had to drop them out of propeller planes two years ago. Think of that. So they go from dropping it out of a giant propeller plane to two years later, supposedly this thing crashes and they're back engineering it and like, really quickly inventing the transistor. Weird scientific provenance to it. And then the other weird thing was fiber optics. There's a lot. A lot of weird stuff after Roswell.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

A lot of weird inventions. Inventions.

[Shane Gillis]

I will say, though. Devil's advocate is 47, 48. That's like the whole. The whole country is inventing things for war.

[Joe Rogan]

For war.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. So we're inventing. We're trying our hardest to invent this shit.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, 100. There's just a weird story behind the transistor.

[Shane Gillis]

What's that?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Well, you can find it, Jamie. We brought it up the other day. It is odd when you read it because it's.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't know how that works.

[Joe Rogan]

The way to create it. It's such a crazy invention. The way to create it. And then there's like the. This dispute between the guy who was given credit for inventing it and these other guys that were scientists are bozo. Like, there's no way.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Why. Why did he get the credit for that? And it more likely it was something that they got from somewhere. It's like there's a weird leap between what they were thinking of doing and what this is. I'm butchering it until we get a quote.

[Shane Gillis]

I bet back then you could just. If somebody was a scientist and invented something, you get.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, well, they just.

[Shane Gillis]

I can't believe I invented it.

[Joe Rogan]

That guy at mit. Wow, bro. That's terrifying. That's terrifying.

[Shane Gillis]

It's the same guy as the. The Brown shooting.

[Joe Rogan]

Is it? Is that what they're saying? How convenient. Is he dead already? How convenient. How convenient.

[Shane Gillis]

I could be wrong on that. Jamie. I know you're looking at multiple. But didn't they say the. The Portuguese guy who was a physicist who did the Brown shoe shooting?

[Joe Rogan]

The guy who did the Brown shooting was a physicist, yes. They know this for sure?

[Shane Gillis]

I think so. Again, this is coming out a week later.

[Joe Rogan]

Same guy.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What? Okay. Brown University shooting live. Update. Suspect in Brown And MIT shootings found dead as motive remains unclear. Holy. Suspect had 200 rounds laser sights. Okay, so this is the suspect in the Brown University shooting and the MIT shooting. So he's a suspect in both shootings.

[Shane Gillis]

48 year old Portuguese.

[Joe Rogan]

So he goes there and he shoots this guy that's a fusion scientist that's working on crazy and is talking about. See if you can find the thing where he was talking about. We played it right where he was talking about the poles, the electromagnetic poles, the north and south pole that they have to switch and if they don't switch, we lose our electromagnetic sphere that's protecting us.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't believe it.

[Joe Rogan]

Magnetosphere.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't believe it.

[Joe Rogan]

You don't believe it? No, no. Too crazy. Yeah. Fuck it.

[Shane Gillis]

There's no way, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

But if this guy focused on college football.

[Jamie]

Football.

[Joe Rogan]

I get it.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't.

[Joe Rogan]

I have no killed this guy though.

[Shane Gillis]

I have no use for electromagnetic spheres.

[Joe Rogan]

But if this guy invented some or was onto some technology that could revolutionize power if he really did find like cold future. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those guys get killed. That's. I mean when you assume when. When a super brain brainiac nerd dude gets killed. Yeah. And he's involved in some fusion project.

[Shane Gillis]

Absolutely.

[Joe Rogan]

And then 24 hours later, character Trump truth social like merges with a fusion power company.

[Shane Gillis]

Did that happen? Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ. Are you serious? Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Pull that story up.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm thinking about college football playoffs.

[Joe Rogan]

I know. I'm thinking about Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua.

[Shane Gillis]

That'll be fun.

[Joe Rogan]

Here it goes. True social parent to merge with nuclear fusion firm and $6 billion deal. By the way. It could be totally unrelated related. What a coincidence. Or Trump Media and Technology Group, the social media and crypto company part owned by President Trump said it would help develop a utility scale fusion power plant.

[Shane Gillis]

I wish that. You know what that Portuguese fellow should have done is waited till. He should have got. If he was a real Portuguese man, he would have waited to see Cristiano Ronaldo one more time. He should have waited till after the.

[Joe Rogan]

Summer to shoot this. Here's a stupid. Here's a very stupid question, but a valid one. What's the difference in fusion and fission? Do we currently use fission? Correct. Is that what they do is fusion what we don't use? Like which. Which is stupid question.

[Shane Gillis]

That's a insanely smart question.

[Joe Rogan]

Because cold fusion is the holy grail. Nuclear fission and fusion are two distinct nuclear processes that release energy by altering atomic nuclei. But they operate in opposite ways. Fission splits heavy Atoms like uranium, while fusion combines light atoms like hydrogen isotopes. Oh, okay. So is a hydrogen bomb a fusion bomb? Put that in there.

[Shane Gillis]

Jmo, bring up TJ Duckett highlights.

[Joe Rogan]

Just find out, please. Is a hydrogen bomb a fusion bomb? It's fission hydrogen bomb, but it says it combines light atoms like hydrogen isotopes infusion, different process. Okay, so cold fusion is something that they're all searching for. Oh, the fuel is uranium and plutonium. The key differences. Here we go. Fusion. Yeah. So it is.

[Jamie]

No. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But it's the trigger. Oh, it uses. How weird. Yeah, it's known as a thermonuclear bomb. Primarily relies on nuclear fusion for its immense destructive power. But it uses nuclear fission as the initial trigger. Okay, so fission is the trigger.

[Jamie]

Yeah, I think that's. That's what the whole movie they're figuring out in that Oppenheimer movie, like the uranium splitting. And once they figured one out, then they'd, you know. That's what I got out of it, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

And the bombs they make now make these, the ones they made back then look like little baby bombs. Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Star bomba.

[Jamie]

There you go. Atomic bomb is fission only.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh.

[Jamie]

Hydrogen is thermonuclear, so I think it's megatons versus kilotons.

[Shane Gillis]

This is good. I'm gonna correct someone. When the bomb goes off, we're getting nukes. I'm gonna go. Actually, hold on. That looks like fission to me.

[Joe Rogan]

Are you gonna try to whack one off? If the bombs coming, I have 30 seconds.

[Shane Gillis]

I didn't think I was.

[Joe Rogan]

That the Internet still up?

[Shane Gillis]

Based on fucking my experience with Ken Burns, I might be that guy. I don't think. I've never been scared of man.

[Joe Rogan]

There's no sin in that.

[Shane Gillis]

Not. You're going to go. You're going to go.

[Joe Rogan]

There's no sin in that. It is what it is.

[Shane Gillis]

I think that's a sin. I think you don't want to sin right at that.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't believe it.

[Shane Gillis]

Right at the buzzer, I don't believe it.

[Joe Rogan]

There's a bunch of sins I think people made up jacking off. How about wearing two different types of cloth?

[Shane Gillis]

Well, I would never.

[Joe Rogan]

You're not supposed to. That's crazy. That's crazy that you sin if you do that. If you want to go old school, you're sinning if you do that.

[Shane Gillis]

We all know know there's a difference. You have a conscience, right?

[Joe Rogan]

You know, the jack off conscience.

[Shane Gillis]

You know what a sin is, right? Depends what you jacked off to this.

[Jamie]

Is the current website to get into the Epstein files.

[Joe Rogan]

You're now in line. I'm in the queue. Oh, wow. Your estimated wait time is one minute. Oh, is it moving? Oh, less than a minute.

[Shane Gillis]

Wait. We're gonna get into the files.

[Joe Rogan]

Look, we're about to get in 90. We're less than a minute. We're at 96. Getting into the Epstein files.

[Jamie]

What do you think should pop up first?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it's your turn.

[Shane Gillis]

Holy.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, we're gonna see some. You are now being redirected to the website immediately. A virus gets uploaded FaceTime video of every jerking off session you're gonna have for the now to the rest of your life. It'll all be in a database. All right.

[Jamie]

First thing starts off with a privacy notice.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay.

[Shane Gillis]

Okay.

[Joe Rogan]

Type to search court records.

[Shane Gillis]

Never find a.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you think it's going to come out. So this is all happening live. It just happened an hour ago. What do you think is going to come out of all?

[Shane Gillis]

I don't know. Type in Donald Trump and search. We're going to find out real quick what's. No results found.

[Joe Rogan]

Crazy. Please try a different search.

[Shane Gillis]

Bill Clinton.

[Joe Rogan]

The greatest president. Bill Clinton saved America.

[Shane Gillis]

48,000 results.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, here we go. No results found. Oh, interesting. Interesting. Bill Gates. No results found. Crazy. I. I guess everybody's innocent.

[Shane Gillis]

Turns out everyone's innocent.

[Joe Rogan]

He was no worries alone. Hornyman, bro. I mean this. It's. It's. You saw the search. It's over. Okay? Case closed.

[Shane Gillis]

Guys. Can we stop talking about Epstein? Get over it.

[Jamie]

Handwritten text portions of these documents may not electronically searchable or produce unreliable search results. So you gotta dig yourself.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. We're just gonna have to wait. We're gonna have to wait.

[Joe Rogan]

Get away. For the super nerds.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. Let them go through that.

[Joe Rogan]

Get in there and go to work.

[Shane Gillis]

The guy's not watching.

[Joe Rogan]

Alabama, Oklahoma or Jake Paul Anthony Joshua.

[Shane Gillis]

It's gonna be incredible.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you think's gonna happen?

[Shane Gillis]

I think if Joshua tries his hardest, just a jab will win. A jab is gonna win the fight. He's gonna to.

[Joe Rogan]

It's gonna be just jab the shadow.

[Shane Gillis]

He's so much taller and bigger and he's better at boxing.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just crazy that he wanted to do it. That Jake Paul wanted to fight Anthony Joshua.

[Shane Gillis]

I wonder how much Jake got.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he must be getting an extraordinary amount of money for this because everyone's gonna watch. Yeah. Whether you're, you know, a know it all boxing expert type fake guy like me or someone else no.

[Shane Gillis]

You know, you're boxing.

[Joe Rogan]

I know a little. Little. These guys are the real boxing experts. But at the point is everyone's going to watch it. Even the casuals. Everyone's going to watch. I'm gonna watch it because it's nuts. It's a nutty idea.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like Gervonta Davis is not the best idea. Gervonta's small. He fights at 135. That's crazy. You can't be bigger than the guy. But when the guy's way bigger than you. Now I'm interested.

[Shane Gillis]

Like, okay, Javante would him up. Depends. What? I don't know how much. How big Jake is.

[Joe Rogan]

Kids, he's big. He's. He weigh 216 and he's solid as a rock. And Javante fights 135. That's way bigger. Yeah, that's way bigger.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

There's a lot of like you can only skill is awesome. But it only goes so far when someone's that huge.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Just like I probably could him up because he's really good. I heard that there's him knocking down and gone.

[Shane Gillis]

That's what happened. That would. That's me.

[Joe Rogan]

You look at this.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm Joshua. Yeah, that's you.

[Joe Rogan]

Dude. You do not want to get popped by this guy. He's so big.

[Shane Gillis]

No, he's.

[Joe Rogan]

And he's been knocking people out forever, man.

[Shane Gillis]

Wouldn't you think any top heavyweight would.

[Joe Rogan]

Knock out Jake Paul? Well, this guys. He said like openly he doesn't want to fight. Like he doesn't want to fight David Benavidez. He's like that. Yeah, I don't want to fight that guy.

[Shane Gillis]

But he thinks Joshua was.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't get it, man. Benavidez is terrifying.

[Shane Gillis]

Make no mistake about Ruiz. You could have got. You could have got Ruiz out there.

[Joe Rogan]

Which one?

[Shane Gillis]

Isn't that. Isn't that the chubby guy?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, Andy. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Could have got him out, but he might not have taken it easy. I think there's.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Andy trying to find a guy who's.

[Shane Gillis]

Going to take it easy.

[Joe Rogan]

You think Josh was going to take it easy?

[Shane Gillis]

Well, that's what I was saying about the speech he gave. I don't. I don't know. That seems like a wild card.

[Joe Rogan]

That was a crazy speech.

[Shane Gillis]

It seems like a guy.

[Joe Rogan]

I never heard that speech.

[Shane Gillis]

Up to do whatever.

[Joe Rogan]

I can't believe that. I never saw that until I think I kept watching. No, no, don't make it parades.

[Shane Gillis]

And it got weird, dude. I was watching it because I. I like Anthony Joshua. And I was watching it going, this is crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, when a dude out boxes you like that, he's a smaller guy and he outboxes you. Two fights in a row, bro. Like, it really batters you a little bit. At least in one of them. There's some moments in, like the last round where he was just getting boxed up. Man, Usyk's so good. He's so slick. That guy's 38.

[Shane Gillis]

Post fight, though. I'll give anyone you can say anything. Like, I remember when, like, remember when McGregor broke his leg?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

And everyone's like, I can't believe he's saying all this.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like, dude, right?

[Shane Gillis]

He was in a fight 20 seconds ago.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

He's gonna be saying crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

And his leg's broken and he just shot.

[Shane Gillis]

He's in terrible pain.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Like, I don't know. Post fight interview is like, they're gonna say wild. They were just in a fight. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

If there's ever a time where someone should have pulled out of a fight, it's that one.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, his leg was.

[Joe Rogan]

His leg was up before that fight. They knew it. They. They had done MRIs on it and they didn't know what it was. You know, it was probably like a deep bone bruise. But then the next impact on it snapped it. Maybe he had a hairline fracture. It wasn't just the chest compromised. It wasn't much, man. It wasn't much. It wasn't much. When you consider all the times that it's weird because sometimes it doesn't take much. It's just. It hits the kneecap the right way or the. The shin at the high spot.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like the top of the shin up here, it's so hard to break. And you. The flexible part of your shin will just snap on it. But that one didn't kind of look like that. It look. And then when I heard afterwards that it was already compromised going into that fight, I'm like, oh, man, that's a bad idea. But you think you could do anything when you're Conor McGregor, you know, like this guy, he beat me the first fight, but I'm gonna him up the second fight.

[Shane Gillis]

Being Conor McGregor is literally being on cocaine.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Whether you're on it or not, Bro. He had the wildest press conferences back when he was fighting Jose Aldo.

[Shane Gillis]

That must have been so fun to be at those.

[Joe Rogan]

They were crazy how fun was. I didn't go to press conferences. I watched.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, really? How about the way never go that Must have been.

[Joe Rogan]

The weigh ins were wild. The whole crowd. The weigh ins were crazy. Yeah, well, the weigh ins were crazy also because that's a day. That's when they used to have to really weigh in. So you had to get on the scale in front of everybody. Now they have ceremonial weigh in. So now you weigh in and then you rehydrate rate and then you get on the scale and I say Official weight is 145. Everybody cheers. So when Connor is standing there facing off with Jose Aldo, he looks like a skeleton, bro.

[Shane Gillis]

He looked.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. See if you can find that. It was terrifying. Crazy. So let's, let's see him get on the scale. That's Jose Aldo. So Connor would get on first. Conor got on first. First. Look at him, bro. Look how sunken in he is. I mean, he must be feeling like utter dog.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. How do you not faint?

[Joe Rogan]

Finally the wait is over. Yes, Bug there. You know, Connor has played it quiet this week. He ain't playing it quiet now. Painting a kick like I have this like get between everybody.

[Jamie]

I don't think Jose really looks scared.

[Joe Rogan]

Conor McGregor.

[Shane Gillis]

Once again, the Irish fans.

[Joe Rogan]

Have come out for the biggest UFC featherweight title fight ever. Give us your thoughts on tomorrow night and Jose Aldo as an opponent. You know, I'm sick of talking about Jose. I visualize and I look at his facial of features and I know that the soft parts of his face won't be able to take my shots. I just want to thank the Irish people for coming out here. For me, it means everything. Tomorrow, tomorrow night I will bring that goal home for Ireland. Once again, Conor McGregor, ladies and gentlemen. Bro, that was back when he was fighting 145. That boy was big at 145.

[Shane Gillis]

Chugging electrolytes.

[Joe Rogan]

Let me see what they look like. Jose Aldo was big at 45 too, man. Man, Jose Aldo was one of the greatest. 145 pounders, bro.

[Shane Gillis]

Not to be a psycho. I didn't know Charlie Kirk was. Yo, holy, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

That's dark.

[Shane Gillis]

It's not.

[Joe Rogan]

He speaks Portuguese. Trust me, it's not Charlie. Son of a.

[Shane Gillis]

Hold on. No, no, no, no. I'm not making light of anything.

[Joe Rogan]

If you meet him.

[Shane Gillis]

Looked exactly like if you meet him.

[Joe Rogan]

He doesn't. It's just the. The angle.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, hold on, Joe.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just the angle. I'm telling you.

[Shane Gillis]

No, you're into something. What's going on here?

[Joe Rogan]

Crisis actors. You ever see those people that get like super obsessed with crisis actors?

[Shane Gillis]

Well, hold on. That's another thing that's a good point.

[Joe Rogan]

Now look at what he looks the next day. He's all filled.

[Shane Gillis]

His eyes, his face.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it's completely filled in. I wonder if back then you were allowed to use IVs because you weighed in the same day. I mean, excuse me, you weighed in on the scale. Not the same day, the day before. Oh, my God. The first time I've ever said he slept him ever in a fight, it just came out. Yeah, because it was like that's what he did. He just slept him. That was crazy. And the fact that he did it after like months and months and months of taunting and talking and worst case for Aldo.

[Shane Gillis]

Worst case.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

God, that blows.

[Joe Rogan]

It blows. Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

And it was. Yeah, it's just a quick. Oh, that sucks.

[Joe Rogan]

But you ever see Aldo in his prime? Yeah, Aldo when he was in the wec, didn't see that, bro. Aldo won't use. This is the first time in years. Aldo won't use IVs to rehydrate.

[Jamie]

I think the band had just started.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, that's crazy. That was when it happened six months before.

[Jamie]

That is when it started.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, well. So alto always got big at 145 and. And there's been a few. There was a few weigh ins. We got real big where he had a really hard time making 145. And then he started fighting at 135 and he just got like a real good guy, like a specialist to help him with the weight cut. And he made it pretty easy. Nutritionist, got everything dialed in. Just makes you think like if that guy was at 35 the whole time, he was everybody up at 45, you.

[Jamie]

Know.

[Joe Rogan]

But everybody remembers him for that fight. Yeah, that's a problem.

[Shane Gillis]

That's a tough one.

[Joe Rogan]

He was so good.

[Shane Gillis]

Dude, isn't he. Wasn't he still fighting?

[Joe Rogan]

He just retired.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, yeah, Just retired like this year.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah. I think he got a bad, like a very close decision. Didn't go his way.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And he retired. That's right, Zahab.

[Shane Gillis]

I watched it. Yeah, yeah, he was kept. Kept going.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he, I mean, tried out and he survived. Zahabi survived. And he was. He just emptied the gas tank trying to take him out. And then Zahabi was on top in the end of the fight.

[Shane Gillis]

Who do you like now? Who's. Who's a young guy because you told me about. About Jack Della Madeleina a while ago. Who's a Ulta G?

[Joe Rogan]

This guy from Cameroon.

[Shane Gillis]

Really?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he's terrified. He's £185, 6 foot 4, built like a Greek God. Smokes everybody. Everybody just gets smoked.

[Shane Gillis]

Did he fight last week?

[Joe Rogan]

No, he didn't fight last week. But I'm. I'm not sure when he's fighting again. But see if you could find his like a highlight reel of his. Kos bro. A.A. gotier. I hope I'm saying it right.

[Shane Gillis]

Could have never spelled that.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. When you have to say it in a way in. But this guy.

[Shane Gillis]

I've seen you, I've seen you right it up.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I it up all the time. There's too many guys, I can't remember all of them, but this guy, just his style. However I mispronounce his name or get it right. His. He's terrifying. Is that bro, he's 185. And the guy on the left, Sean Strickland, used to be the 85 pound champion and still one of the best 85 pounders in the world. The Silent Assassin. Just see if you can find a highlight reel. They got some, some action of this dude. Just people up. Megan o'. Levy. So yeah, back it up a little so you can see. Just people up, dude. Terrifying power, super speed, excellent technique. Everything.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Guy's got a bunch of cats. I like that was in the house with cats.

[Shane Gillis]

Psycho.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he likes to go visit cats. Yeah, bro, he's. He's good, man. He's good. Super strong too. Very, you know, like very big for the weight class.

[Shane Gillis]

Ass.

[Joe Rogan]

An awesome striking. How old is man?

[Shane Gillis]

Young.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, bro. He fought this dude and that guy was so tough.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. And that guy just, just kept waving him in. It was.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean most humans would have been gone before that. This guy hung in there as long as he still kicking. Still trying to get him off him. Yeah, but that dude, dude, he's that, that guy's the future.

[Shane Gillis]

I feel like those.

[Joe Rogan]

He's the future.

[Shane Gillis]

I feel like the jacked Africans eventually run into a nasty, dirty white guy.

[Joe Rogan]

They could run into a Russian.

[Shane Gillis]

No, like Ngano. Just a guy that's like a firefighter.

[Joe Rogan]

He's 23.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, he's 23.

[Joe Rogan]

The thing you have to recognize about Francis Ngannou, when he fought Miochis for the world title, had only been doing MMA for like four years.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like when they had a rematch a couple years later, Francis was a different human being.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And he fucked him up and he was real patient. But that first fight, first fight was crazy.

[Shane Gillis]

That was just a guy surviving. He's going to get tired.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it was awesome. It was awesome. It was like probably One of Stipe's most impressive victories because Francis was like, flatline everybody. And he also took a lot of shots in that fight.

[Shane Gillis]

He.

[Joe Rogan]

He ate a lot of big shots.

[Shane Gillis]

I was cheering for the white.

[Joe Rogan]

Were you?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. If you don't know the sport, you go, I'm cheering for the shitty looking white guy. I hope he wins. Who's he fighting? The most jacked black dude of all time.

[Joe Rogan]

Literally. Yeah, He's a guy who has to cut weight to make 265.

[Shane Gillis]

Natural fan of the Mexicans, too. I like to see a Mexican get in there. Like that guy. That guy that was just taunting that guy. That's hilarious.

[Joe Rogan]

They got a spirit for fighting, I'll tell you that. That there's like a Mexican fighting spirit. There's been so many Mexican combat sports champions. Like, think about how many boxers that are, like, world champions that were Mexican. It's the numbers, nuts. Julio Cesar Chavez, Canelo. Salvador Sanchez. You can go down the line forever and ever and ever. There's so many Mexican champions.

[Shane Gillis]

They're like Jews and Nobel Peace Prizes. They. They got their thing, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

Ah, it's so true.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, this is what I was gonna say earlier about the crisis actors. It's the same thing as, like. Like when they go, that's a crisis actor, right? It's like, no, he just went through the most insane. It's like interviewing a fighter after a fight. He's gonna be weird, right? Like, you don't know how you would react.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, you have no idea.

[Shane Gillis]

This is a fucking crisis actor. It's like, dude, he's. He just went through something he didn't know was happening, and all of a sudden it's the worst thing ever.

[Joe Rogan]

But also, don't you think crisis actors are real? Like, if you were gonna pull off a major propaganda event and you could hire someone to pretend that something happened and give a narrative and get that guy on camera right away.

[Shane Gillis]

How many actors do you know? A lot, right?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I know a good amount.

[Shane Gillis]

How many do you think would keep their fucking mouth shut about whatever they're working on?

[Joe Rogan]

0. But here's the thing. Thing. You don't have to be an actor to act.

[Shane Gillis]

Of course.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. Kevin Durant was really good in. Not Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant rules. Kevin Barnett was really good.

[Shane Gillis]

Kevin Durant's on your brain. That's so funny. You got fucking Durantula on the brain.

[Joe Rogan]

Anyway, people have acted that are, like, not actors.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. You see a great job.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, there you go.

[Shane Gillis]

None of us can act. No, but wait. Crisis Actors as. I don't. I genuinely don't know if that's.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I know that MKULTRA exists. Right. For sure. So, you know, they do mind control and, you know, they do regime change things. You know, they do propaganda. Do you think they've ever put together, like something fake?

[Shane Gillis]

Yes, I think, I think maybe pulling down that statue in Iraq, they had some fucking brown people show up and be like, yeah, we like this. I don't think, like Sandy Hook, a guy getting done with Sandy Hook, his kids just die. And right before he gets interviewed, he's like smiling. No, no, no, no. Of course, that's a touchy one. But like, people going, that's a crisis actor. Because he was smiling before the interview. It's like, dude, he's in. He's a mental. Yeah. Nut job. His kids.

[Joe Rogan]

What happened with that guy?

[Shane Gillis]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, you can't.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't think. I think it'd be tough to get American crisis actors. I think it would be tough.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Because somebody would go, I went to middle school with that guy.

[Joe Rogan]

For sure. That's a good point.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.

[Joe Rogan]

No, no, it's a real good point.

[Shane Gillis]

I think it's easy to get a group of Muslims in Iraq to be like, celebrate when we tear down the Saddam statue.

[Joe Rogan]

Do you remember when Benghazi happened? And then there was this. Was it Benghazi that was attached to that weird video? There was a weird video that someone had made. It was like an anti Muslim video and they were trying to say that it was the attack was in response to this video.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm not sure.

[Joe Rogan]

Do you remember? There was something. It was something really kooky and people were not buying it. It was real weird. There was like some sort of like American propaganda film about Muslims. God, I don't remember it. Does that any of this ring a bell, Jamie?

[Jamie]

Sort of. I'm trying to remember what it would have been about.

[Joe Rogan]

There was like a video that they were trying to say, oh, they attacked us because of this video. And then everybody was like, wait, what? And then it made more people, like, dig into the whole story behind the thing.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And go, whoa, who's. You guys are lying about all kinds of shit.

[Shane Gillis]

No, they're lying about all types of shit. Without a doubt.

[Joe Rogan]

Always.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm just saying, after a school shooting or like a thing in America, like having fake actors, it seems impossible. Seems impossible to me.

[Joe Rogan]

It seems impossible.

[Shane Gillis]

Not because I don't think they would like to do that.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. It just seems.

[Shane Gillis]

Because it's been too difficult.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but they. They definitely use agent provocateurs like they. They definitely did at the Capitol. They use guys. Guys that pretended to be patriots.

[Jamie]

I think it's this.

[Joe Rogan]

That's right. The Innocence of Muslims. That's the film.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Amateur film created by Nakula Nul. That's a real person. Nakula Nula is a real person. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, right?

[Shane Gillis]

Couldn't even name him.

[Joe Rogan]

CIA solo.

[Shane Gillis]

That's a drawing of him.

[Joe Rogan]

Nicola. Nicola. You know me. I go, go. All we got is a drawing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Out. There's a drawing of this guy.

[Shane Gillis]

Wasn't it kind of, like, hot?

[Joe Rogan]

So it depicted the prophet Muhammad in a derogatory manner, sparking widespread anger and protests across the Islamic world, including Cairo and Benghazi, Libya. So the Obama administration initially described the attack as a spontaneous reaction to these protests, a narrative that faced immediate criticism from conservatives who believed it was a premeditated terror attack. Aha. The film fueled initial anger. Intelligence later suggested a more organized terror element, with attackers having specific knowledge of the compound and its security. Yeah, that's the story. So they try to blame it on people freaking out because of the video and even the whole making of the video. What is the controversy behind the making of the video? Is there any connections to shenanigans with the making of the video? Oh, like intelligence agencies?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, probably. Yeah, probably. I wish the CIA would talk to me.

[Joe Rogan]

You think? What would they tell you, bro?

[Shane Gillis]

Keep it up.

[Joe Rogan]

Good job. We like, like you. We like your vibe.

[Shane Gillis]

I go, dude, I with you guys. I hated jfk.

[Joe Rogan]

Whoa. Is that what you say?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. I go, bro, sick job.

[Joe Rogan]

I think these guys probably all like jfk.

[Shane Gillis]

I like jfk. It.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I think you got to be careful because some of those guys didn't, like the old guard, were different. The CIA, we're doing things actually in America's interest.

[Shane Gillis]

What do you think they're up to?

[Joe Rogan]

Who knows? They're not up to nothing.

[Shane Gillis]

Tell you that they're doing something.

[Joe Rogan]

It's not like they're just chilling, you know? They're definitely up to something.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I'd ask Mike Baker, but he's very coy. He is very coy with those answers.

[Shane Gillis]

You ever get the CIA boys, Gentlemen.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you mean?

[Shane Gillis]

Have they ever talked to you?

[Joe Rogan]

Him. Him?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, he doesn't work for the CIA anymore. Shane Gillis, he's retired now.

[Shane Gillis]

Sure.

[Joe Rogan]

Has zero connection with.

[Shane Gillis]

But then he just goes on the.

[Joe Rogan]

Biggest platform in the World every now and again.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, I'm sure he's. I'm sure he's done.

[Joe Rogan]

It's interesting hearing his perspective because you got to know how they think. Like, what. What is where the top brass, like, what's their objectives with all this super sports.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, you know what? This comes out when I bet we're at war with Venezuela.

[Joe Rogan]

Venezuela. Do you think that's real?

[Shane Gillis]

They're going for it, right?

[Joe Rogan]

I thought they weren't. I thought they decided. I hope not. I don't think anybody's gonna really support that at all. No, it'd be a terrible idea. But also those plaques.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, they don't get huge.

[Joe Rogan]

Those plaques are terrible ideas.

[Shane Gillis]

Obviously, he doesn't give a.

[Joe Rogan]

The tweet. A tweet's a terrible idea. Yeah, I know.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Why the would we ever do that?

[Joe Rogan]

No, I don't. Hope not. Trump and top aides refuse to rule out war with. That's fair.

[Shane Gillis]

That's fair.

[Joe Rogan]

Maybe. I know what that article orders Venezuelan navy to escort oil tankers after seized seizure by US Forces.

[Shane Gillis]

I understand the refuse, they're saying. Refused to rule it out. That just means some reporter was there like, will you do that? And he was like, shut up. Quiet.

[Joe Rogan]

So it seems. Quiet. Refused to rule out the potential for open conflict as Nicolas Maduro urged his navy to escort oil tankers to find the largest US Fleet deployed in the region in decades. In an interview broadcast on Friday morning, Donald Trump told NBC News that going to war with Maduro's regime remains on the table. I don't rule it out. No, he said in a phone interview with the network. And at a year end press conference at the State Department, Marco Rubio doubled down on remarks by other Trump advisers that US could coerce Maduro through its campaign of strikes on alleged drug boats traveling towards the United States streets. Why?

[Shane Gillis]

Why are we letting Marco Rubio say.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, what were we talking about Rubio earlier? What was it?

[Shane Gillis]

He was talking again, but it was earlier.

[Joe Rogan]

What was it about? It was early in the podcast, like.

[Shane Gillis]

Three hours ago, about deporting that girl. He's like, yeah, we didn't give you that visa. It's like, bro, we. No one elected you. You lost. You got made fun of. You were little Marco. You were sweaty. Little Marco go. I don't. I remember.

[Joe Rogan]

He's the guy that's going to release all the UFO docs.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, is he?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

All right, well then, cool. That's what they do to get us to keep voting. They go, yo, Epstein, files. We got Them. We got it.

[Joe Rogan]

Just look up Bill Gates. Nothing.

[Shane Gillis]

Yo, vote for us.

[Joe Rogan]

The UFOs is. That's the real thing. It's the most important thing. We're working on that right now. I'm real close. I'm gonna get a skiff.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't know.

[Joe Rogan]

I'll be right back.

[Shane Gillis]

I've been around the country. I think we got bigger fish to fry. There's a lot of UFOs, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

There was this lady who did this video who just went to Los Angeles for five days and was talking about how she hadn't been there in a long time and what it was like, and she said that Skid Row is fif. How many blocks is Skid Row? Because I swear she said it's 50 blocks.

[Shane Gillis]

No, Campy, can't be. It's the whole city.

[Jamie]

It's like downtown.

[Joe Rogan]

How many blocks?

[Jamie]

Town's 50 blocks.

[Joe Rogan]

How many block? Oh, it is. How many blocks is. How many blocks is skid Row, bro? I was just. How do you even measure things? Blocks or blocks aren't universally the same size, are they?

[Jamie]

Look at that.

[Shane Gillis]

50 bucks.

[Jamie]

Roughly. 50 or 54 blocks. It's a quarter mile square. Quarter mile.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a quarter mile of chaos. Do you know how crazy that is?

[Shane Gillis]

That's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

You know how crazy that is? That's how bad Skid Row is. Like, and she said, you don't understand it until you get there. And she said the entire city. City has a heavy feel to it. Like, it doesn't feel right. Like you feel. It feels off.

[Shane Gillis]

Is that a real sign?

[Joe Rogan]

Skid Row.

[Shane Gillis]

You want to be a little Skid Row? Wait, hold on.

[Joe Rogan]

Skid Row is population Too many.

[Shane Gillis]

The name of it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, I thought it was like.

[Jamie]

Gotta go down there and check it out, bro.

[Shane Gillis]

I've been.

[Joe Rogan]

I've been. It's complete insanity.

[Shane Gillis]

You got to go to Kensington and Allegheny.

[Joe Rogan]

They've shut down the streets. Fire that up, people.

[Shane Gillis]

Give me some Google images.

[Joe Rogan]

People just live in the there. Just living on the street.

[Shane Gillis]

K and A in Philly.

[Joe Rogan]

But this is crazy. This is 50 blocks. Whatever you guys got is a tiny little ass. Skid Row.

[Shane Gillis]

No, no, no, no, no, no. We're doing the real.

[Joe Rogan]

The big Skid Row to Little ass.

[Shane Gillis]

No, no, no. We're doing.

[Joe Rogan]

How many blocks you got?

[Shane Gillis]

We're the epicenter of heroin.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's take a bet.

[Jamie]

I'd say Philly was there before Skid Row.

[Shane Gillis]

No, no, I would say Philly's got it way worse.

[Joe Rogan]

Really? More. More blocks.

[Shane Gillis]

Not More people. No, no, that. It's that for.

[Joe Rogan]

But that's. That's skid row too, man. I think it's the same. I think derelict are the same everywhere. But here they could freeze to death. That is the difference. That's the difference. They're a little more hardcore.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I can't say.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't know.

[Joe Rogan]

But Philly ones can freeze to death.

[Shane Gillis]

K and A is bad. I think it's the worst place I've seen in America. Jesus Christ, though. I was just in Portland and.

[Joe Rogan]

That'S.

[Shane Gillis]

It's such a cool city. It's like going to San Francisco where you're like, damn, this is an awesome city. It's just up. But I don't want to. The homelessness problem is a real.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a real crazy issue and no.

[Shane Gillis]

One can come up with a solution.

[Joe Rogan]

Because it might be.

[Shane Gillis]

It might be the result of a issue that already happened and now it's too late to fix. And how do you fix. Fix it? I don't know. I haven't heard one good answer.

[Joe Rogan]

Nope. Not one.

[Shane Gillis]

Other than just every single person I know going city sucks.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, there's no solution. Also, they're throwing so much money at the problem and it's not getting at all better, which is not a good sign. That usually means there's a hole in your bucket. Dear lla.

[Shane Gillis]

I bet there's a hole in the bucket. I bet there is.

[Joe Rogan]

There is a hole. They've proven it. There's people that are making a ton of money. It's a whole complex of people that are making a ton of money working on home homelessness.

[Shane Gillis]

That's how it is. Anytime there's an issue, somebody's going to be making a ton of money on it.

[Joe Rogan]

Always. Yeah, people are dirty.

[Shane Gillis]

Didn't the Clintons make a ton of money on the Haiti?

[Joe Rogan]

Did they?

[Shane Gillis]

I don't know. Allegedly.

[Joe Rogan]

Did they? They made money on Haiti. If I put that into perplexity, how would they have made money on Haiti?

[Shane Gillis]

I think they just took some of the donations. What happened if. I know. I think somebody owned a mind down.

[Joe Rogan]

Didn't like a rapper wind up going to jail for that cross. Yeah. Did he went to jail. Right.

[Jamie]

I don't know what that was about.

[Joe Rogan]

Or he got arrested and sentenced. If he hasn't gone to jail.

[Jamie]

Sentenced to 14 years in prison for major foreign influence scheme, including illegally funding millions of dollars from Malaysian financer Joe Low to former President Barack Obama's 2012 campaign lobbying for China.

[Shane Gillis]

Whoa. You think that would be A bigger story. Whoa.

[Joe Rogan]

What is he from again? The Fugees.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, damn.

[Joe Rogan]

That's crazy. They took two guys because Lauren Hill.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Jamie]

The night down there for a few days.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, he probably took the. He probably was holding the bag, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

They got Lauryn Hill for tax evasion. Remember? They put her away.

[Shane Gillis]

They hate the Fugees, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

That's crazy.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. Wyclef John's.

[Joe Rogan]

But it seems like this dude was involved.

[Shane Gillis]

Might have been up to no good.

[Joe Rogan]

White Clef John. I love that Staying alive version.

[Shane Gillis]

He rules.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he rules. But he had a issue with hay too, right? Wasn't.

[Shane Gillis]

He's Haitian.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. But didn't. Wasn't there, like, probably.

[Shane Gillis]

I think a lot of the money got funny down there, as it will.

[Joe Rogan]

Do when money is the worst thing I've ever seen.

[Shane Gillis]

There's a documentary on Haitian prisons.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, no.

[Shane Gillis]

You want to see, bro? It's like 90 people in a cell that's designed to fit like 10 people. And also, there's no due process because they don't. They can't process everybody. So there's guys in there that are like, yo, I didn't do anything and I'm here for 15 years. And then there's an earthquake and everyone gets out, oh my God. And then they go, I think that guy was in prison. Pick him up. It's just a guy who's like, yeah, I wasn't. Now you're in the worst prison on earth. Yeah, it's a tough one.

[Joe Rogan]

No verified evidence shows Bill or Hillary Clinton personally profited or received salaries from Haiti related activities through the Clinton Foundation.

[Shane Gillis]

The foundation raised around 30 to 500 million. What?

[Joe Rogan]

For Haiti. Post 2010 earthquake. Directing funds to aid groups, investments and projects like hotels and factories without taking administrative over head.

[Shane Gillis]

You get 500 million, you go, they're not gonna notice.

[Joe Rogan]

15. Shane, don't you just read AI and just recognize the truth and stop being conspiracy theorists.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm not conspiracy theorists. I'm thinking about the College Football Playoff, which has a lot of conspiracies.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, really?

[Shane Gillis]

The Protestants formed against the Irish.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, no.

[Shane Gillis]

They joined. All the Southern Protestants joined against the Catholics. Tale as old as time.

[Joe Rogan]

It's Irish.

[Shane Gillis]

Last time they tried to join against us, we marched down there and burned down their cities. So watch out.

[Joe Rogan]

Know it's crazy because sports are like a substitute for war.

[Shane Gillis]

You think we'd have more presidents? The Catholics? Yeah, they only had one Biden, too.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, Biden's Catholic.

[Shane Gillis]

We got Biden. Allegedly true. We only Got one. They got shot. And then Biden was doing auto sign. Give us a good one.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. You got anybody in mind?

[Shane Gillis]

Fuel.

[Joe Rogan]

Nick Fuez. He could probably win a few years.

[Shane Gillis]

Hold on, let's talk.

[Joe Rogan]

Listen, he couldn't have existed before, right? 10, 20 years ago. Couldn't have existed now. Super popular. What's 20 years from now look like, you know, maybe someone like that can win.

[Shane Gillis]

Well, we'll see.

[Joe Rogan]

I gotta be so bad. We gotta wrap this up Anyway.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm sorry.

[Joe Rogan]

418.

[Shane Gillis]

We got that one at the buzzer.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, well, listen, I will say this about it. It's fascinating to watch that there's. There's like a whole group of people that feel very unrepresented in the world, and especially like, young men. And here you got this young guy with a very high verbal iq. And he also does a lot of Posting a lot of talking, a lot of trolling, says women shouldn't be allowed to vote this wild. And. And that. That Pierce Morgan thing is like, bro, that was like an expert sparring with someone who thought they were an expert. Sure. Like, they're playing two totally different games.

[Shane Gillis]

And it's also the thing. The thing that people try to get Fuentes on is he's still funny as it's funny. So that's where you're in a lot of trouble.

[Joe Rogan]

When he hits him, do you think the hall. You made jokes about the Holocaust. He goes, too soon. Like, dude.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And you could see he's wild. You could see. But you could see Piers going, oh, bro.

[Shane Gillis]

When he was like, me mom died. I was like, holy, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

He got hit. He got hit with a missile on that one. Too soon, too soon. I was like, oh, my God.

[Jamie]

I don't know if this is AI or not, but this photo just popped up online.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, no.

[Joe Rogan]

What is. Hey, I'm just having a good time.

[Shane Gillis]

He got head from a block.

[Joe Rogan]

There's a black.

[Shane Gillis]

He got head from a Polish person.

[Joe Rogan]

A blockhead. Yeah, well, duh. Well, duh.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, duh. Trump or Clint got head in hot tub.

[Joe Rogan]

Can you imagine who saw that? One of those guys and you were like, finally, I got a place where I can get my free call.

[Shane Gillis]

I will say, dude, you ever try to get ahead in a hot tub?

[Joe Rogan]

That seems gross.

[Shane Gillis]

It's impossible.

[Joe Rogan]

Go inside. Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

This is going.

[Joe Rogan]

This is nuts.

[Shane Gillis]

I appreciate your enthusiasm.

[Joe Rogan]

This is not ideal.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm like, barely hard. It's water's chemical smell. Don't give me head nod.

[Joe Rogan]

You shouldn't get that on your mouth anyway. Chemical water from that hot tub destroying your endocrine system.

[Shane Gillis]

All right, all right. I love you, brother. Thank you.

[Joe Rogan]

It was a lot of fun. Bye, everybody.