Aaron Siri (123:28)
I should be clear about that. Just like every religion, there are different. You know, communities. And so there's like old, old Lion Amish and then there's Old Lion Amish. And so God, you know, and Christianity and Islam and Judaism and all different, you know, there's different degrees, black hat Jews and there's so forth. So in many respects they do still go. But you know, as I was told by one of the main folks who I interact with there, and I've been up there and I've slept there and I've interacted with them. He told me, he said, yeah, you know, there are a few that mistake got some vaccines. And he goes, one of those kids, they just don't act right. He sell it to me. But we don't see that with our other kids. And I'll tell you this about the Amish community. They don't have phones, not, you know, smartphones. They have old school phones. Some of them, they don't have TVs when they're with their kids, they're with their kids when they're there at the end of the day, they really are so much more tuned when I spend time with them. And when I went up there, I mean, it's incredible, you know, we have lost. It's a hard thing to experience maybe for somebody who keeps like, maybe the closest thing I think of is like those who observe the Sabbath biblically, you know, so they're just, they're just totally locked in. They lock in with their families for a day or things like that. And so they're very in tune with their kids. They know if those kids have health issues and those kids don't have those issues. But forget the Amish, go to the rest of the kids in the other studies that are not Amish studies. The 10 other studies that I just told you about. One is three pediatric practices that have vaccinated of unvaccinated kids. There are a whole line of studies of nothing to do with the Amish community. But if you do want to focus on autism, okay, which is here's just one potential issue from vaccines, by the way. What you find in the peer reviewed literature is that 40 to 70% of parents who have a child with autism report still report that they believe vaccines cause their child's autism. Okay? 47%. That's after how much billions of dollars to try to tell them and gaslight them and convince them, them that it's not autism, that vaccines don't cause autism. Apparently no matter how much you beat these families, they're just not going to change their lived experience. And what vaccines do they point to. They often. They point to the vaccines given in the first six months of life. When you ask them what vaccines do you think cause your child's autism, they'll say, the vaccine's given in the first six months of life. And then they'll also point to MMR vaccine, which is given no earlier than one year of age. Okay? And so, on behalf of icann, which is the informed action nonprofit that our law firm represents, we sent a Freedom of Information act request, FOIA request to the cdc. And we said, hey, your website says vaccines do not cause autism. Great. Please give us the studies that show that Hep B vaccine given three times in the first six months of life do not cause autism. Please give us the studies that show that DTaP vaccine given three times in the first six months of life do not cause autism. Same thing for IPV vaccine, for PCV vaccine, and for Hib vaccine. Okay? Each one of those vaccines is given three times each in the first six months of life. Fifteen injections. K. Okay, you say vaccines don't cause autism. These parents are saying these vaccines cause their child's autism. Provide us the studies. They never gave us the studies. I sued them in federal court. I didn't go to Texas. I sued them in Southern District of New York. Okay? Not the friendliest territory to bring that kind of lawsuit. Okay. Days before the hearing, I get a list of 20 studies finally from. Also from the DOJ, because they represent the CDC. Okay? Maybe they think I don't read. So I looked at the 20 studies. I've read them. 19 of them have nothing to do with the vaccines given in the first six months of life. They were all either MMR studies or studies of an ingredient that wasn't in those vaccines. One of them was an Institute of medicine review from 2012 that canvassed all the literature on whether DTaP vaccine does or does not cause autism. Because the CDC and HRSA, which is the agency in HHS that fights vaccine injury claims, asked the IOM to look at whether dtap causes autism because it remained one of the most commonly claimed injuries still, according to them, okay? And the Institute of Medicine came back and said we could only find one study on dtap and autism. And in fact, it showed an association between vaccine, dtap vaccine and autism. But the IOM threw it out because it said there's no unvaccinated control in it. So they threw out the studies based on VAERS data, if you know what that is. So I called up the DOJ attorney. This is days before the hearing. And I said, I got the list of 20 studies. I said, are you sure that your client, the cdc, wants to settle this case? Basically on the basis that these are the studies they rely upon to claim that vaccines don't cause autism. The vaccines in the first six months of life do not cause autism. Because that's what the lawsuit was about, that FOIA request. He went, he called me back and he said, yeah, they want to settle it. I said, all right. I gave him another chance. Those 20 studies were put into a settlement agreement between the CDC and ICANN. My client, the DOJ, signed it on behalf of the CDC, I signed it on behalf of my client. And a federal judge in the Southern District of New York entered as an order of the court in 2019, I believe it was. And there it was. I mean, I had done years and years of work fighting with them to try and figure out, show me the vaccines don't cause autism. This was the crescendo. This was the end. I mean, when their back was to the wall, they have nothing. There are no studies. They could not produce one that showed the vaccines given in the first six months of life do not cause autism. And here's the thing they left out. There is one study out there regarding Hep B vaccines in autism. It's from Gallagher and Goodman out of the University of Stony Brooks. In the peer reviewed literature, and it showed that kids that got Hep B vaccine versus those that did in the first month of life had three times the rate of autism, statistically significant. Gallagher Goodman University of Stony BROOK it's on PubMed. That is the only study of Hep B vaccine and autism you will find in the peer reviewed literature. If you're gonna do it based on the science, on the published literature, that's the only one out there. That dtap vaccine study is the only one out there for dtap given in the first six months of life.
