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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan experience. Train my day.
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Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Do you gotta get new glasses?
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No, I just have different pair for different stuff.
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Did they get stronger?
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No, no, I just have.
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Did you always have glasses? Like, do you have an eyeball issue?
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Yeah, I got a stigmatism.
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Okay.
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But I. But I got one. One for driving and one for my computer.
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I used to have to use reading glasses. Then I started using red light. Red light therapy. And I think that for. The first thing I started doing is taking this company. Pure Encapsulation has this. It's called macular support. It's like a combination of nutrients that help your eyeballs.
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Oh.
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I don't know how, but I explained it to Huberman. He read it off to me and he's like, this makes sense. But then the big one was red light. I started using red light therapy. I don't need glasses anymore.
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What?
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Yeah, my glass. My eyes aren't perfect. Like, in low light, they're not so good. Like, in a dark restaurant, I have to use, like the flashlight on my thing to read a menu. But I don't need glasses anymore.
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So I was. I've been wondering that. Is it that I'm getting older or are they just using darker light in the restaurant?
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They definitely use dark light in restaurants. I don't. I mean, young people can still read it. Like, I've gone to restaurants with my kids, and they can read in the dark. I'm like, you can read that? I can't read it, but. But like, small print, like on my phone, like reading an email. I didn't used to be able to read it, and now I can read it perfectly.
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Oh. See, now I'm in that age now where I got to start switching.
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Switching glasses.
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Different. Yeah. Here we go. Here we go.
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Listen, dude, I'm just happy you're alive.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know. You know, man, I've always.
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People don't know what we're talking about. You had a heart attack.
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Yes, I had a heart attack. Three months ago.
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Yeah.
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Super bowl weekend.
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Yeah.
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In Atlanta. Yeah. Out of nowhere. Well, was it really out of nowhere? Not really. You know, like.
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Cause that's not like you were a marathon runner.
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Right, right, exactly.
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But I.
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But I. I was sitting there. You know, honestly, I was sitting there thinking. Cause I remember the doctor. Cause, you know, we really are like. We've set ourselves up. We kind of deal with trauma in a. Not. I mean, you can argue about whether. How it's whether it's healthy or not. But our first go to is humor. And I remember the doctor getting upset with me. Like, the surgeon, the lady that was about to. She was about to put a stint. So, you know, I'm sitting there, and she was like, hey, something very serious just happened to you, you know, because I was just talking, you know, I was. But it was just how I was just coping, you know? She was not happy about it.
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Did you tell her that's how I deal with things?
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No, I was already all drugged up and shit. Because it was one of the things where I think, like, you can't. They can't put you out completely. Like, it's not that kind of anesthesia. But they. But I think they need you to be conscious kind of in case something goes wrong. Right, but they. But whatever the fuck they put me on, I don't remember any of it.
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And you were joking around, and she was upset.
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Yeah. What happened was, when I got to the hospital, the doctor that first saw me was like, I forget his name, but he was like, hey, I'm Doug, and don't worry about anything. I'm gonna be with you the whole time, you know? And then maybe 20 minutes later, you know, they wheeling me in, they drugging me up, and I'm like, hey, where the fuck is Doug? You know? And they're like, who's Doug? I was like, he promised me that he wasn't gonna leave. Obviously, I was just joking. I know. Like, he was just saying that so I would calm down or whatever. Right.
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Right.
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I don't know why Doug thought he would be bringing me comfort, but I've just. But I fake made a big deal of the fact that I felt abandoned by Doug, and she didn't think it was funny. Oh, but somebody did. And that's all I needed was to laugh. I'm like, it's you, bitch. It's not me. You're the problem. You're too serious in here.
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Well, why would she need you to be serious if you're getting a stent put in, wouldn't that make it work better?
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I mean, to be fair, I think my whole life, people have said, as serious as a heart attack. And I feel like if you dedicated your life to that, you probably a serious person. I don't know any other heart surgeons, but I bet they all pretty uptight.
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Yeah, they have to be. It's life or death with every decision that they make, right? I guess they got to get it in on time, right? Like, if they're going to put a stent in you if they're going to do something. Like if you're one of those people, like you are that if you didn't address this, you would have died.
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Right?
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So that's one of those things that's time critical. So I guess with those people, like, hey, stop around, like in their mind, like, I got to save you. I got to figure out what has to be done within a certain amount of time and get you on the road to recovery. Cause if I don't, you're dead.
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You know what? Something else I remember, and this was just flashlights. Cause I only remember these couple seconds is she kept yelling at me because I kept moving my hands. So basically, like I'm laid down like this and they want you to keep. They want you to keep your hands right by your side. And I just remember I kept coming to with her being like, hey, keep your hands. She might have said, keep your fucking hands down. I don't know though. I don't know. I ain't gonna make no accusations. But she was clearly upset about it. She was. But I'm like, bitch, I'm on. I'm on with drugs you gave me. I'm not doing it on purpose. Apparently my, my default response. Cause they, cause they, they put, they have to put a stint in, but they go through your groin.
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Yikes.
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So. So, you know, so apparently like my default response is to protect my dick.
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Right?
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Like I'm waking up, somebody's fucking around down there. You know, it's like, why don't y' all tie me down? If it's that important, why don't you tie my hands down?
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Right?
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But maybe they can't. I don't know. I don't know what else is going on. And medical people are real sensitive about criticism. You know, some of them really like, we save lives. How dare you? And it's like, all right, yeah, some of y' all are still assholes though.
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Well, then they don't have the best sense of humor. They can't. Like, that's not the way. If you want to be a really good doctor, you can't be also a stand up comedian.
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Well, see, no, see, the nurses have a sense of humor.
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Right, right, right. Nurses are fun.
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They might as well be different species.
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Yeah, nurses are fun. Like, nurses come in, they joke around with you. They around. Like some of them do at least.
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Yeah. And.
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And some of them kill.
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Let's be honest. In Atlanta, the nurses were incredibly attractive. Like, really, There was hot nurses everywhere.
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Damn.
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Like nurses. And it's something about like vet techs, like working at the one. The ladies working at the vet hospitals. Yeah, there's something about going into that field. I don't know what it is.
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Vet techs? You mean veterinarians?
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Yeah, like veterinarians. But not the, not the doctors.
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Right, Just the nurses. Just the nurses. Well, they're people who love animals. Sweet people.
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Oh yeah. And money. They love animals and money. I. Nobody.
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Well, the nurses don't usually love money. If they did, they wouldn't get into that profession. But the veterinarian hospital certainly loves money.
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The administration, speaking of which, I can't, I can't decide which pisses me off more is like when I get the bill at the, at the human hospital or when or because at the vet hospital I feel like they, I feel like they're like they're extorting me, you know, like when I got the bill from this hospital, I was like, God damn. But I was in there and they were. Because they didn't walk up to me while like before the surgery and go, what's it gonna be?
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Right?
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But when, but when it's your pet, that's what they do, right? We could do this life saving thing, which is the best thing to do, but it's way more money than you have. Or you know, you can be a piece of shit pet owner and get the $20 thing. Yeah, yeah, they have to. They'll try to get you to take out a loan. All that just really turn the screws.
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And.
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Yeah, I don't know when the last time you had to do some serious shit for your pet.
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Pretty recently, Marshall swallowed a bunch of rocks.
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Oh, God damn.
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Yeah, he.
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We.
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Someone spilled chicken food on the gravel. And he ate all the chicken food and just kept eating and started eating gravel. Oh, my God, he's retarded. He's the sweetest boy. He's the sweetest, sweetest dog that's ever walked to face the earth. But he is not clever. And so we bring him inside. No one knows. No one knows anything that happened. And then he starts throwing up, and he's throwing up rocks like little pebbles. And then he starts getting diarrhea. And he's diarrhea and pebbles. I'm like, oh, no. And then we put two and two together. We figured out what happened. And so then I had to take him to the vet. So I took him to the vet and he had to stay there overnight. And luckily they didn't have to do surgery. They pumped it out of it. They somehow got the rocks out of his stomach, and they had to keep scanning it to make sure there's no rocks remaining in there. And so he passed all the rocks, either threw them up or them out. And then within a certain amount of time, I think he was there for. He was there for at least 24 hours. But after a certain amount of time, he started eating and then they weren't worried about him anymore. That dog eats. He just. All he wants to do is eat. He gets so excited. Yeah, all he wants to do is.
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Favorite thing is he want every morsel of flavor out this dirt.
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It's so crazy. He kept eating rocks. I mean, he ate pounds of gravel. It wasn't like a small amount of gravel. It was. The amount of gravel that was in my living room on the carpet was crazy.
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Oh, wow.
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The out of throw up and just diarrhea. It was everywhere. It was. It was a crime scene.
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I bet you he won't do that again.
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Oh, yeah, he will.
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He will.
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He'll do it tomorrow. Dude, that dog doesn't learn. He's the best. Like, he's a sweet dog. I love him so much. I love him so much. He's just all love. Every time I see him, he just wagging his tail. I get down on the ground with him, he kisses me, I hug him, I rub his belly. He's the best. But he is not that used to be a wolf. That's what's so up about human beings. We took something that's the most clever most. They communicate with each other. They plan traps on animals. They're so clever. You can't. And also you can't train them. You know that about wolves. You can't train them. That's why you don't see wolves in the fucking circus. You cannot train. You could train a bear, you could train a lion, you could train a tiger. Wolf's just go, fuck you. I'm gonna do exactly what I want to do. But not dogs. Certainly not my dog. Like Marshall. He's the sweetest. Like, he was so easy to train.
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Yes. Wow. Because you can train a lion, but you can't train a house.
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Train a woman. Well, you could train house cats to do certain things. Like some people have trained their house cat to shit in the. The toilet.
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Nah, Joe, there's a. There's a video of, like, I want to say she's Russian, this Russian lady. She's like the world champion cat training. And. And she. And she's getting these cats to do a whole bunch of shit.
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But every now and then they do what they want.
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They just do what the they want.
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Yeah, that's true. You can't get them to do it. Like. Like a really good dog will. Like a Belgian Malinois.
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That's a soldier. Absolutely.
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Just does every task you ask him to. That's impossible.
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Absolutely not.
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But with wolves, you can't train them to do anything. They won't listen. I didn't know that they don't listen to you at all. I had a friend who had wolves. He had like 7 8th Timberwolves and they got out and killed a bunch of his neighbor's sheep. They, like you couldn't stop them from doing anything. They wanted to do whatever they wanted to do.
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Why did he have a pack of wool?
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He's an idiot. He had three of them. I was like, you don't have these dogs. You just feed them. You don't. This is not like a dog. They don't listen to you. And you have a house with a yard. Like, that's crazy. Like, you should have like an enormous piece of land. And even then if you have wolves, they're going to kill everything they run across.
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Yeah. They need miles.
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Yeah.
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Of space.
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Yeah. They're. They're cardio machines. They run through the mountains. They chase down moose.
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That's why I get so irritated when. Because I'm in a. I'm in apartments now and I'm in one of those. I don't know what the fuck is going on with my building, but. But it's full of dog. Like the building is for dog people. There's. There's a dog wash. All of the grass around it is all fake. And there's. There's fucking shit bags every 10ft in the front of the building from like noon to 4pm it always just the strongest scent of dog piss because 50 people have walked their dogs around it. And I. And that's fine. I don't, I don't mind that at all. But what irritates me is when I see. Cause I know I have the biggest apartment in the building and I know that I don't have room for like, I don't have the room for like a, like a blue, like a blue heeler.
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Right.
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And it's like you see motherfuckers with dogs like that was like, yo, you, that dog needs to be running miles every day. Why do you got that big ass dog? Oh yeah, well, I see. I saw a damn. I saw a cane corso.
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That's crazy.
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It's like you got a cane corso in a, in a, in a 1300 square foot apartment. That's crazy.
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That's crazy.
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And I don't. And here's the other thing. I don't see that every day. So you, you skipping days. This needs to hurt things or it
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needs to have exercise. That's like having an MMA fighter living in your house. Like you Better take him to the fucking gym.
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Oh, yeah, because people always gotta blow off steam when people find out that I have a cat. They always like, oh, so your apartment smells like a cat? No, no, but. But you know, you know, you know whose places always smell bad? It's people that have a dog that's too fucking big to be in the place. Yeah, yeah. There's also.
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They probably can't wash it, right? Like, what are you gonna do? Do you get in the shower with it? I used to get in the shower with my dogs. I bring Marshall to a groomer. But my, my dog Johnny, he used to love to get in the shower with me.
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Really?
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Yeah. He was a big mastiff and he loved it because it was just massages and love in the shower. I just cover him with shampoo and I would talk nice to him. I go, oh, we're getting so clean, buddy. He'd give me kisses.
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Something about seeing their human with no clothes there. I think they locked because my, my cat does it. She loves to come in the bathroom whenever she knows I'm naked or she has a shower running. She just sit there and watch.
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It's probably weird to them that you could take your clothes off.
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Yeah, I mean, I think it's weird to them that you wear clothes at all.
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Oh, for sure.
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They're like, what?
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Yeah, what are you doing? Why are you under the sheets all the time?
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Yeah, and I don't. I've softened my stance on people that put clothes on their animals. But I'm like, they don't like it.
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No. Well, some dogs like Chihuahuas in the winter, it's a good idea.
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You know what I mean?
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It's like 30 degrees out.
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The dog likes it. No, the dog likes that you like it. They like pleasing you, but they don't want clothes on.
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They don't. But if you have like a little dog, like a Chihuahua, for instance, they get really cold. Those guys, if you put a little sweater on them, like, they feel better outside.
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It just makes sense. But. Okay, then go all the way there. Where the boots at?
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I'm gonna wear boots in the summer because like New York City, like, the street gets so hot. Like, if you think about how hot the street gets if it's 98 degrees outside.
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It was like broken glass.
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Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, you're just walking on hot rocks, right?
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But also, what are you doing with that big ass dog in New York City?
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That's true.
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There are no apartments. Why you got a Great Dane out here?
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I mean, I would have to make a choice. Like, if for some reason I had to move to New York City, I'm not getting rid of my dog, and I'm not leaving my dog here.
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Can't get rid of your dog.
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No chance. Not a chance in hell. So I would just have to commit to a lifestyle of taking that dog out to, like, Central park every day, doing things with them every day. I would have to make a choice. I would have to live near the park for sure.
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Like, for me to get rid of my cat, it would have to be.
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They'd have to die.
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They'd have to die. Or it would have to be something where, like, I am absolutely not capable of, you know, like, I can't move or something crazy like that.
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Right, right, right, right, right.
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Yeah. When I try to. When I moved out here from Cali, like, she can't fly.
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Oh, so did you drive her across the country?
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I paid somebody to.
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Oh, there you go.
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Oh, me. That would be a. Actually, I didn't have a car at the time, but that would be a nightmare. This is the most stubborn. Like, this creature. Like, I have a hard time getting her. I've taken her to three groomers. They all been like, you gotta come get her. Cause she don't. She doesn't like to be restrained in any way. Yeah. And at the slightest sign that you're thinking about holding her down or putting her in something, she will fight with everything she got.
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Is she a feral cat?
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No. Well, she might have been.
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She.
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I got her. The. The story the lady told me, it doesn't really add up, but basically she was. A divorce happened. This family had two cats and a dog. And then the wife got the house and started fostering animals. And then my cat's brother, who. So her and her brother were the original cats. My. My cat's brother started basically, like, joined this pack of cats against cause. Millie don't socialize at all. But her brother kind of turned on her.
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Game of Thrones.
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Yeah. And so since then, she was just hostile with everybody. All the animals, I mean. And so when I came to get her, all these animals were in this lady's house, except Millie. She was in the garage, and they had a little post, and she was in the garage. And when I came to take her, she was so down to go. She was like, all them people. My brother, this. She was so.
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But she likes you.
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Oh, yeah, she loves me. She's still. To this. She follows me from room to room.
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Oh, well, that's sweet.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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But she has to just choose one person too.
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She also hates me too, so.
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She hates you?
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I think she hates.
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She probably had bad experiences.
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Yeah, yeah, she's just. She's got some kind of trauma that I'll never know about.
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You gotta give her some kitty cat ayahuasca, bro.
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I've had to. I've had to put her on on CBD and before we go to the vet. Really?
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Oh yeah, sometimes.
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Does she get high and roll around? Get freaky?
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She loves it.
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What is it? So weird. What does?
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Cat.
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It works on every cat. I've never seen a cat where it doesn't work on imagine. I mean if there's shit like that for people.
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Oh yeah, you just give someone. We got plenty of like that.
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But I don't know if it gets them high. I don't know what it's doing to them.
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So then.
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Well, let's find out. I. I really have no idea what the mechanism of. Let's put this into perplexity.
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All right, Jeremy, what's perplexity?
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Catnip is an aromatic. Perplexity is our AI sponsor. Really? Yes, we have an AI sponsor.
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Oh, okay.
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It's the. It's not ideologically captured. Catnip is an aromatic herb in the mint family whose leaves and stems contain a chemical. How do you say that word? Nep. Nepital. Wanna try that, Jamie?
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I'll say nepotalactone.
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Nepa to la. I think you're right. Nepa to lactone. That triggers playful or euphoric behavior in many Cats. Many cats. Interesting. I thought it was all cats. Plant is native to Eurasia, now common across temperate regions and is easy to grow in North America, often in gardens or pots. Why cats react to it Catnip contains an oil whose main active compound is nepetalactone, a type of terpene produced in glands on the leaves and stems. When the cats smell nepetalactone, it binds to receptors in their nose and stimulates brain pathways linked to mood, leading to behaviors like rolling, rubbing, purring, meowing, jumping or brief zoomies. Only about two thirds. Oh, okay. 80% of cats are sensitive to catnip. The tendency is genetic. The effect usually lasts five to 15 minutes, after which they become temporarily immune for a while. Interesting. Is it safe? For most cats, catnip is considered non toxic and safe and many vets recommended as an enrichment to encourage play and reduce boredom or stress. Eating. A small amount is usually fine and may soothe the digestive tract. But large amounts can cause short lived stomach upset, vomiting, diarrhea or dizziness. Your cat's just a fucking. A fiend.
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A
Oh, shit. You only supposed to give a pinch? I don't know, that's what they say down there.
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B
Only a pinch. Oh, here it goes. Because of this, people typically offer just a pinch of dried or fresh. How much do you give your cat, bro?
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A
I don't fuck her world.
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B
Oh my God. You give her a fat bag. You give her a fat bag.
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A
I just let her go at it. You know what's funny, man? My cat is very like, I let her do what she wants, you know, like, I let her, she, she gets, she can go outside. Like, you know, she's not, she's not an outdoor cat. But if she want to go out, I open the door because I make sure you know what it is. I make sure outside is not some, some mystery place that she, when she, if she want to go, I open the door and let her go. And then after she get cold or hear something and smell and run back in the house because that way she's not like just dying to go out there.
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Right, right, right.
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A
I'm not worried about her running away.
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B
I worry about coyotes, man. When you let cats out, man, coyotes are every. And they target your house. They know where the cats are. They know the cats that get let out.
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A
Yeah, but, but, but it's like nothing comes near my building because it just smells like, just all. It smells like 50 dogs live there.
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B
Yeah, but they eat dogs too.
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A
Really?
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B
Yeah. My daughter's puppy got eaten by a coyote. In California. Guy was training, and he left the puppy outside and got eaten by coyotes, bro.
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A
I haven't seen no coyotes.
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B
Oh, I've seen them also.
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A
But here's the other thing, too. My, my. My. My girl is, you know, she. She takes zero chances. The slightest sign of danger and she. She already got. No. She got 50 spots to hide and run. Like, she's never gotten into it with anything.
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B
The thing about coyotes is they have it in. They're predators, right? And cats are predators too. But pets are different than wild animals.
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A
Yeah, this bitch ain't no pet.
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B
They're very different.
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A
She'll bring a fucking mouse in the house.
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B
Yeah, I mean, they kill stuff. They kill stuff for fun, but there's a difference between that and needing to eat and needing to, like, eat cats in order to survive, which is what coyotes do. So coyotes know where the cats are. They know the smell when cats are peeing outside. So they know a cat lives in the house and they know the cat pees outside. They just hover nearby and wait because they know it's a matter of time for the cat has to go outside.
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A
You know, it's funny, man. I haven't seen the coyote the whole time I lived in Austin.
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B
They'll hide.
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A
Three years now.
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B
They hide.
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A
I know. I saw all the time in L.
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B
A though, you'll see them. They exist.
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A
You know what it is, I think is that the ones out here are starving like the ones in L. A.
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B
Were, right?
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A
So because they get bolder and bolder. If they. The hungry, they get.
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B
Well, the thing about Austin, as opposed to l. A. Is there's a lot of animals and there's a lot of moisture, right? So if you're outside of greater Austin area, like a lot of these coyotes, I see them all the time out where I live because there's a lot of animals where I live. I see, like, foxes almost every day. I see armadillos a couple times a week. I see deer every day. I always see the. Especially when I come home, I see foxes running across the road. There's all kinds of animals. So there's all kinds of things that coyotes eat, a lot of rabbits, all kinds of things coyotes eat. And so they don't have to come into the city. Whereas in LA you've got la, and then everything around LA is just barren. You know, it's all dry and up, and you might find a rabbit. But it's way easy to eat someone's cat.
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A
And I think. I think that every person doesn't realize How. How many coyotes are around them? Like, oh, yeah, every major city. They're like. They're like raccoons. They're in every city, everywhere.
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B
There's a great book on it called Coyote America. Oh, yeah, it's really good. And it's all about how coyotes. What happens is when they yell out, they're doing like a roll call. And when they're doing a roll call, they're letting all the other coyotes know that they're there. And when one of them's missing, the female coyotes assume that that coyote's dead. And so their body responds by making a larger litter.
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A
What? So they get.
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B
They'll have more babies if someone's missing.
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A
Damn. Death makes them horny.
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B
Well, it makes them have more children. They always have children. They're always horny. Right? But they. Instead of having three pups, they'll have six. And they spread out because they were persecuted by gray wolves. Like, that's the whole deal. And being gray wolves and red. So coyotes and red wolves mate with each other. That's why you get what they call a coy wolf. But it really is. Coyote is a wolf. It's a type of wolf. But they're not related to the gray wolves. And gray wolves and coyotes don't mate. So gray wolves, the ones that have in like, Colorado and, you know, like Montana, those wolves just eat coyotes. They just kill them. Like, they don't around they. So there's no chance of becoming allies. So those coyotes learned a long time ago when they start getting killed by wolves, just spread out, Just get the fuck out of there, keep moving. That's why they're in 50 states. They're in every city in the country now. And that wasn't the case when I was a kid. When I was a kid, like, I grew up in Massachusetts. In my high school years, there was no coyotes.
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A
Nobody.
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B
I never even heard of anybody seeing a coyote.
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A
Yeah, me neither.
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B
I never saw a coyote in my life until 1994. In, remember in LA, they had those Oakwood Garden apartments. It's like furnished apartments that they had in la. And I was driving to it. It's like when I first moved there, I didn't have an apartment yet. When I first moved there, I was like, those dogs, all these dogs. I'm like, oh, those are coyotes. I remember pulling the car over, looking at them like, this is weird. These weird little wolves just wandering around the city.
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A
Like, that's how you know you see in a coyote. You're like, is that a dog?
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B
Well, that was the first time, and that was in 94. But by the time, you know, we left in 2020, they were everywhere. I mean, everywhere. Like, they expanded, and now they're in New York City. They find them in the middle of the fucking park. They find them in the Bronx. They're in abandoned buildings. They're all over the place. They're in Chicago. Coyotes are all over the whole country.
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A
When I was in la, one of the neighborhoods I lived in, I was like, I was in the neighborhood Facebook group, and it was a dude in there, his name was Coyote. The guy's name was Coyote. He just wanted everybody to know that he loved coyote so much and he would literally, he would defend coyotes no matter what the fuck they did. Like, somebody would be in the Facebook group, hey, a coyote fucking ate my dog right out of my hands. Watch out. And this guy would be like, if anybody here harms that coyote, they have to answer to me. Fuck your dog.
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B
Oh, God.
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A
Oh, yeah. I think his name was like. His name was like Coyote Jones or something like that. He was serious. He was real serious.
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B
Really into coyotes.
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A
He was. You know, I thought everybody. Everybody got their thing.
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B
Well, they're an interesting animal, man. That's. It's really interesting. In that, that book it was. It's all about, you know, who's.
- [30:08]
A
I just saw something about how raccoons are the next animal that. That's being, you know, tamed or domesticated or whatever.
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B
Oh, I believe that the ones.
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A
The ones in the city are starting to have, like, shorter snouts and.
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B
Oh, whoa.
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A
Yeah, they're starting to look more like
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B
how wolves became bitch ass wolves when they came around the fire.
- [30:29]
A
Yes. They're basically. They're starting to get cuter. Like dogs, the ones closer to us are getting cuter because they know it. It gets them treated better.
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B
Wow.
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A
The cuter. The cuter ones have more. More babies. The same thing.
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B
Wow.
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A
I know. And that's crazy because I read somewhere that we haven't actually domesticated cats or. Or not.
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B
That makes sense.
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A
Maybe domesticated isn't the word, but never
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B
got them to the point where we did with dogs.
- [30:50]
A
Exactly. But. But raccoons are getting there.
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B
That's so interesting because. But it makes sense. Like, did you ever heard about that Russian study they did with foxes? Like how quickly you can domesticate a fox?
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A
Oh, no, I didn't know that you could do.
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B
That's really quick. So you start out with foxes, and any fox that shows any aggress, you start with a bunch of foxes. Any fox that Shows any aggression to a person, you kill it on the spot. Oh bang. Dead you get. All the ones that survive are ones that have no aggression towards people. And then slowly their snouts get shorter and their ears start to flop. And over the course of like 10 years you got a totally different animal. See if you can find that.
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A
Why don't people do that? I don't.
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B
Well, they did do that with this one study, but it was just to show how quick things change. Like given natural selection. Like natural selection dictated that if you're a sweeter fox, you live. If you show your teeth, they fucking shoot you in the head, you know, And I'm sure Russian scientists a little bit more hardcore or Chinese. Here it is. Dimitri Belov and Ludamilia Truth. The Russian fox domestication program is a long term experiment in Novo Sibirsk, Siberia that successfully bred domesticated silver foxes, a form of red fox. Selecting specific specifically for tameness. After over 60 years and dozens of generations, fox act like domesticated elite pets. Displaying dog like behavior such as tail wagging, licking and whining for attention. So you could buy them. Can you buy one of these foxes? That's crazy. See if there's a video. Oh, you get one for 9,000 bucks.
- [32:29]
A
What?
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B
Let's. Oh, known for high energy and needing intensive care. Yeah, you don't want that in your 1300 square foot apartment.
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A
What makes them elite though?
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B
It is interesting, right? What does that mean? Does it look like AI?
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C
Well, that top one did.
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B
See, it's. Who knows nowadays, right? Oh, look at this lady's got a fox as a pet. Oh wow. They're like little dogs. That's crazy, bro. But the thing about foxes are they are like playful in the wild. Even wild foxes are playful with people. Oh, this little guy's missing a foot. I don't know if those are wild or the thing. These are just different foxes. I don't think these are those foxes. This is just right. It's showing the info and then showing a bunch of different foxes. But if you remember Grizzly man, like that movie, the Warner Herzog movie. So he was living in the middle of Alaska around these bears and the foxes would come and hang out with him and the foxes would like hang out in his tent, they would play with him. They stole his hat once and ran away with his hat and he was like chasing him, trying to get his hat back.
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A
And the bears don't attack the foxes?
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B
Well, they probably would if they could, but foxes probably can get away. I mean they probably catch a fox Slipping every now and then. But mostly what they were looking for up there was salmon. They're eating a lot of salmon. And when bears get salmon, that's all they want. Like, you could. There's a crazy video that we've shown before of this guy, and they're on the edge of a river, and the salmon are running. There's all these bears in there that are just, like, just gorging on salmon, which is why those coastal bears are so much bigger. Like Kodiak bears, like Alaska. The reason why they're so much bigger is because they have access to salmon. They have access to fish and all the other animals that are there, too. But when they're. When there's a salmon run, that's all they want. They just want to eat salmon.
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A
So you're saying, like, if you give salmon to a bear that's never had salmon before, it'll just. That's all it'll want?
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B
No, that's not what I'm saying. I wouldn't. It's probably delicious. I mean, that's why we like sashimi. But I think it's. The access is so easy. They don't have to chase anything. They just stand in the river. It literally comes to them. They just bite it out of the air. You see how bears do that?
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A
Oh, yeah.
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B
And bears are kind of lazy. Like, if they can preserve energy, they will. They just want to get fat for hibernation, right? So they just want to eat as much as possible. So the point is, like, when they're like that and they're just eating fish, you don't have to worry about them. They're not even going to kill you. So this dude is, like, sitting there. He's got, like, a little lawn chair, and this giant bear just walks up besides him and sits down. Like, sits down almost like a person. And they're like, hey, get out of here. Hey. I mean, it is as close to him as you are to me. And it might be a thousand pounds. I mean, this thing is gigantic. And you see the river behind him. So you see all these bears that are just scooping salmon out of the river.
- [35:27]
A
And what is. What is the bear trying to tell him about doing?
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B
Bears not. Doesn't give a. He just comes to sit down. Like, you might be a stick or a person. It doesn't matter. It's eating salmon. Sorry. Like, watch this. Look at this. Look at this. This dude's just sitting there with his chair, and this giant ass bear just comes next to him. Look at the size of that thing, but it's not interested in him at all. It's not like plans koi. It's not pretending. It's not gonna kill him. Like, it's. It doesn't care about him. Like, it doesn't think that he's gonna eat it, that's for sure. Right? So it's like he's just chilling like that. Might as well be. Look at it. He sits down like a person,
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A
bro. You know what it is about these is how fast they can go from this to terrifying.
- [36:17]
B
Yeah. To 45 miles an hour. But look, he's like, hey, get out of here. Then it walks off. It's like, all right, I'm not looking for any trouble. Just trying it out. It's amazing that the thing listens to him, but they. Also amazing that he's not freaked out, I guess. He's taking a photo. So in that video, you see there's a ton of bears that are just hanging out in that stream. They just lay. And they don't fight with each other either during those situations because they know there's so much salmon. There's enough for everybody. So, like, if one of them kills a moose, right, the other ones will come over and try to steal it from them. Fuck you. That's my moose. And they'll. They'll. Because there's only one food source, but on these rivers, there's just constant fish coming out. So they. They're just grabbing them and eating them. And they're gigantic because of that.
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A
We don't know about these animals, man. We know a little. You know, I just saw some about Florida. So they. They have a serious snake problem now. Like, I think it's pythons. Yeah, it's pythons.
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B
And how to do it on python Cowboy. He gave us a head. Where is that head? You know that it is.
- [37:27]
A
Well, yeah, well, they. So they. They have. They've been trying to catch. So apparently it came from the 80s and the 90s. It was like a big python pet. Boom.
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B
And it was a research center that got hit by a hurricane.
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A
Right. That's what I was about to say. The hurricane came, they released into the wild. Now it's a problem. And they tried paying hunters to get them, and they tried to training dogs to find them, and nothing is good enough. But then they made. They made robot rabbits. You see this? Yeah, they made. They made robot rabbits and they made them. They made them. They put them in these boxes and they've generated fake body heat and the scent of rabbits and everything. And it did Attract. It did pull the snakes, but it pulled everything else too. So what ended up happening is the snake's only natural predator was these. Was. Was alligators, and the alligators was these things up. And the snakes purposely avoid the alligators. So it ended up having the opposite effect. The snakes stayed away and the alligators were fucking these boxes up, and it was almost a complete waste. But then one of the nerds, as they were about to shut the whole fucking thing down, he noticed in the data that what they actually found out, so they plugged it into AI and the AI did this whole fucking map of all the data. Because. Because apparently before every attack, the, the. Those boxes were still like, tracking movement and everything was going on. And they found out that the animals have like, highways. So it's not that the snakes were in random places. Is that. Is that the snakes and the alligators were using these. These highways that only they could smell of. Like the quickest ways to get through the Everglades and stuff like that. And so they were able. So now they just. They know where they are and they know how they get from one part of the. Of the swamp to the other, and they didn't. So we learned something. We still don't know what the fuck to do about the pythons.
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B
They use dogs a lot. Where the dogs find the eggs.
- [39:37]
A
Well, they, they trained these two dogs specifically, but. But they got to the point where it's like, you know, you just. It's just so much ground to cover. Two dogs ain't gonna do it. And it would. Cause that's the problem with the pythons. I mean, we could wipe them out if we wanted.
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B
I don't think we can. Well, the problem is the Everglades are so big.
- [39:53]
A
Well, that's my point is we can't like the cost of doing it. We just haven't found a way where we can do it, where it doesn't cost just a crazy amount of money.
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B
But you think about all the money they do spend shit on, like, if they got all this Somali daycare center money back. Kill the snakes. Yo, did you see Ilhan Omar? She was reading off of a script. She's the woman who's a congresswoman from Minnesota, from Minneapolis, and she was. She's connected, at least accused of being connected to the Somali daycare center. Because she's Somali. She's accused of being connected to this fraud. So she's reading off this script. And you know how people write World War II and they use like II for two? Okay, yeah, she reads it as World War 11.
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A
This is a congress person.
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B
She's a congresswoman. See if you can find the video, Jamie. It's. It's kind of adorable. It's kind of adorable because I don't think English is their first language already. At least it doesn't.
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A
The last time the Alien Enemies act
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B
was invoked, it was used to detain and deport German, Japanese, Italian immigrants doing World War 11.
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A
2. At least she caught it, though.
- [41:13]
B
I didn't know she caught it. I never saw that. They always cut it off before she caught it.
- [41:18]
A
Well, that's politics, bro. Politics is brutal, man.
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B
Gross.
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A
I don't understand why anybody will want to go into it but you, Matt,
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B
how could you say World War 11? Like, you know, there haven't been.
- [41:30]
A
Oh, but I've.
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B
Nine other wars you forgot about.
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A
But I've said way dumber than that.
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B
But have you ever Reading off a written speech, I mean.
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A
Oh, man, I'm. I would almost be. You know, it is. I do. On a daily basis, I do things or say things that, like, I'm like, I. I definitely shouldn't have children. You know, like, I'm. I'm.
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B
Well, if you did, they'd make fun of you. I'm too forgetful. Stupid. And my kids make fun of me. It's normal.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Part of being a person to pretend that you don't say stupid. But the thing is, like, you and I say stupid shit publicly. Like, we'll say stupid shit on a podcast.
- [42:10]
A
Oh, yeah. And sometimes. Sometimes you get paid to pay for it. But I'm talking about stuff that I would. That I would be embarrassed to have said publicly.
- [42:18]
B
Like World War 11.
- [42:19]
A
Yeah, like World War 11. Because I'm telling you, I do shit like that all the time. I have. I have. Wacky Tony makes fun of me all the time because he's like, you're like a cartoon character. I have that kind of luck where it's like, sometimes I just have those days, man. I wake. I woke. I wake up. This happened, like, remember when I was so. Last Tuesday, right Last, bottom of the barrel. You walked in the green room and I told you I went to go smell the candle, and I didn't know, you know, jelly roll candles and it's a bong, and I wasn't thinking about it, and I went to smell the candle and poured the wax on my clothes right before I got to go off stage. And I was wearing, like, light pants, so it looked like I jizzed on my pants as the wax was drying. And that's why I went home early that day. Cause I was like, it was one of those days. I woke up and the day started that way. I woke up to my CPAP machine crashing on the floor because I rolled over and pulled it off my nightstand. And I get up to go. To go deal with that, and I fucking stub my toe, and I'm like, it's gonna be one of these days. It's gonna be one of these fucking days. I'm gonna drop a glass in the kitchen, you know?
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B
So you just said, let's call it a day.
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A
I said, I call it. Go home. Go right to sleep.
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B
Interesting.
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A
Yeah. Yeah.
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B
So you gave up on the day.
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A
No, I still. I mean, I still ended up at the. I ended up at the mothership that night.
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B
But your.
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A
My set was good, but I took a nap. I napped till the mothership because nothing could happen while I'm sleep. I'm gonna take a reset, take this edible, take a strong nap, get to the mothership, do myself, leave almost like
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B
it's a new day because you just woke up.
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A
But no. But then I spilled the wax on me. Oh. So my brain was like, you don't get to cheat.
- [43:49]
B
Interesting. The idea of good days and bad days based on just like, that's. This is what the world has planned for you today. This is a bad day.
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A
You know what it is? Is if I don't get the sunshine, like, I. Because I'm a night owl, which kind of sucks, but if Either. I need to stay up for the sunshine because I got the blackout curtains, but if I. If I wake up late in the day and I don't get no sunshine, I just. I feel dumber.
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B
Yeah, definitely. I do, too.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah. When I. If I wake up late, even if I get a good amount of sleep, like, more than five hours, but if I was up really late at night and then I wake up late, I. I feel off. Because your whole system's all scrambled. Your system is used to waking up in the morning, going to bed at night, but if you stay up late, like, your brain is working on, like, 40% capacity.
- [44:37]
A
Sometimes I. Sometimes I. Because I get. I'm a big gamer. Sometimes I get it, and I'm one of those people. Like, If I pay $60 for a game or now it's like $80, but I'm gonna play the fuck out of it. Like, the day it come out, I'm playing it all night.
- [44:50]
B
So you playing online? Are you playing the game itself?
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A
Both.
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B
Both.
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A
It depends. It depends on the game.
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B
What is the games that you like? All type of like, what's the big one? Right now?
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A
Right now, the game I'm playing the most is called Deadlock. It's not. It's not available. It's not open. Available to the public.
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B
It is.
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A
No.
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B
You're a developer.
- [45:09]
A
No, but you can get. You have to be invited. It's a closed. What would they call it? A closed beta or play test. Play test.
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B
That's how hardcore you are. You get invited to beta tests. Oh, yeah.
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A
I got. I got a bunch of nerdy friends. Wow. Yeah. Actually, my little. One of my little nerd groups is like. It's through one of the servers at the Mothership. We all game. We on the same discord. We'll get on there. We don't. Because it's nice to have a group where it's like some new shit come out and we like, yo, this is Deathlock.
- [45:35]
B
Oh, yeah, this looks cool.
- [45:37]
A
This shit cooler than a motherfucker. But it also will make you mad as shit.
- [45:41]
B
So it's third person. So you look at it in third person. Yeah, it's third person and you get to pick who you are. Oh, what is that?
- [45:47]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right now, I think there's 34 characters. So look, that's all different people.
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B
I know.
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C
What is. There's a lot of information on the screen that just popped up.
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A
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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B
What's all those.
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A
Buddy, this is.
- [46:00]
B
What are all those things?
- [46:01]
A
This is crazy. I'm gonna this up in a bunch of people. Okay, so, so basically. Okay, so, so basically. So see, See that bottom? That bottom left number? The green number? 3003.
- [46:14]
B
Yeah.
- [46:14]
A
Okay, so those are souls, which is just money.
- [46:17]
B
Your monies or souls.
- [46:19]
A
Yeah. In this game, just think of souls as dollars. Okay, so she's got $3,000 and basically, so which. The thing she just left is the. Is the. Is the lane she was in. And basically how good, how well you're playing the game, how many kills you get, how many minions you're getting, you get more money, and the money lets you go buy those items. That's what all those cards are underneath those people. It tells you what everyone's bought, okay? And since this got the most money, she's bought the most stuff, which makes her stronger. So this game's all about snow. It's all about getting. Getting the money to get stronger faster so you can win.
- [46:50]
B
Oh, okay.
- [46:51]
A
Yeah. She so. And you like a zip line.
- [46:53]
B
Is she on a zip line here?
- [46:54]
A
Yeah, yeah. Because if you see the See on the right hand side, that's that. That's the map. She's. So there's three different. There's three different lanes you have to control. Right? And that big. That big box is like the man. This is a lot.
- [47:10]
C
It's just like League of Legends but on the ground.
- [47:12]
A
Exactly. Okay, I'm glad you put it like that. But that doesn't help Joe at all. He's like, thank you. Yeah. Okay, so, so, so, so. See?
- [47:21]
B
It looks fun.
- [47:22]
A
See the yellow side? See the yellow side on the left hand side of the map? Okay. That first tower is where you start at. And the point is to get stronger, get underneath that, destroy it. Then you work down to the second one. That one is a little stronger. It defends itself. That's what she's in front of right now.
- [47:37]
C
And then they're on teams.
- [47:39]
A
Yeah, yeah. It's two teams trying to. And you're basically. You're trying to work yourself down to their base and kill the. Kill the one in their base.
- [47:45]
B
Oh, wow. So you gang. You join up with a team of guys that are playing this online.
- [47:50]
A
Yeah, it's six on six.
- [47:51]
B
Oh, wow.
- [47:52]
A
But then they just. But here's the thing. This is all very complicated and all this, but they just introduced bra mode, which is. Or Street Brawl, which is basically. It knocks it down to four on four. It makes it one lane, and it gives you random items so you don't have to do any of the complicated. You can just get in and. And get in.
- [48:12]
B
So you get in, run around, grab something, and beat people up with it.
- [48:15]
A
Yeah, like the. The. So basically the. The bra mode is just a condensed version of the game where you're just fighting. You're not. You don't have to worry about managing anything.
- [48:22]
B
Boy, that looks like it'd take up a lot of time.
- [48:24]
A
Oh, buddy. Yeah, because. Because here's the thing this was crazy about. Like, that is if you're. If somehow you end up in a game where everyone knows what they're doing and everyone's communicating, one of those games can be over in 25 minutes. But if you're on a. That's probably not gonna happen. So it could go anywhere from 25 minutes and I. To. To an hour. I've seen games go an hour. Yeah. So it's like. But most of. If a game is going that long, it's just because it's either. Cause people are playing with you because it's one of those things where, like, if you get. If you get behind to a certain Point you can't come back. That's the whole point of the game.
- [49:02]
B
Oh, really?
- [49:03]
A
Yeah. The whole point is a snowball is like, I'm so much stronger than you that there's nothing you can do. It gets to the point where I'm just abusing you.
- [49:09]
B
Okay. It's just because they've collected the most
- [49:11]
A
stuff because they just had. They've had the most money for the longest and they can just keep buying better and better shit than you, and there's nothing you can do about it. But my point is, the point is for you to get to a certain point and just end the game. But some people don't know when that is.
- [49:26]
C
You know, here's the quick three sentence overview of what the game is. Is a futuristic urban fantasy New York. Your gods part of an occult ritual trying to destroy each other.
- [49:39]
A
Yeah, so I'll be. So the back. The backstory is an event happened called the Maelstrom that. Yeah, yeah, no, this is just the backstory. It opened up a portal that let magic and magic into the world and all of these people got all these abilities and powers and stuff like that. And. And there's two opposing gods in some other dimension and they want you to summon them so they can cross over into this realm. And. And so they're. So the team you're on is whichever God you're working for.
- [50:11]
B
Right.
- [50:11]
A
And if you. When you win the game, that's supposed to be you completing the ritual. And if you help complete the ritual, you get a wish. And so when you, when you go to each character, it tells you their backstory and what they want, what wish they want when they get there.
- [50:23]
B
Oh, okay.
- [50:23]
A
Yeah. And some people don't want nothing. They just want to fuck people up.
- [50:26]
B
And. How long you been playing this game?
- [50:29]
A
It's been probably, I don't know, a year and a half.
- [50:34]
B
So it seems super complicated and like it would dedicate a considerable amount of thinking.
- [50:40]
A
It's very complex. You. Because you don't. You. You don't even know what the fuck you're doing for like the first 200 hours. Like it takes about 200 hours before you like. Okay, I kind of, kind of get what's going on.
- [50:54]
B
This is the kind of things that people without kids say.
- [50:56]
A
Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I just, I can't. I'm not. I'm definitely. I'm definitely a 43 year old child. Like, I don't live like an adult. Yeah, no, I live like almost like a frat Like a frat boy or something.
- [51:10]
B
Well, if you could pull it off. Those are when you ask people some of the happiest times of their life when they were young and free. Especially people that don't like what they do. Right. People get a job and they don't like it, and then they have responsibilities and they can't leave their job.
- [51:27]
A
Or people that get a wife and don't like her.
- [51:28]
B
That happens a lot.
- [51:29]
A
That happens too much.
- [51:31]
B
Well, that happens too. And a husband you don't like too. Both. Both.
- [51:34]
A
Oh, yeah, that's probably worse.
- [51:36]
B
That happened. Well, both of them are bad, but it happens a lot. A lot of people.
- [51:41]
C
Are you gaming one of these, Brian?
- [51:44]
B
That.
- [51:45]
A
That was.
- [51:46]
B
That is dog.
- [51:47]
A
That's insane.
- [51:48]
B
That's life.
- [51:48]
C
But that seems like how you should be playing a game like this.
- [51:50]
B
Yeah. In a dark room. Let's talk.
- [51:53]
A
Yeah, I mean, but the thing is that I don't think that chair is very comfortable.
- [51:56]
B
How dare you. That chair goes upside down. You're laying down brother versions of it.
- [52:01]
C
You can make. You could customize.
- [52:02]
A
Oh, how much? Six grand. So wait a minute.
- [52:04]
B
This is Zero Gravity Watch. Hit the different images. Look at. It's like that, Brian.
- [52:09]
A
Oh, that's crazy.
- [52:10]
B
That's what I'm talking about.
- [52:11]
A
That's crazy. But what else does it do? Does it massage?
- [52:13]
B
Sucks your dick?
- [52:15]
A
I mean, 10 grand, mouth comes out,
- [52:16]
B
just sucks your dick.
- [52:18]
A
Yeah, I'll take that. Can you piss in that?
- [52:20]
B
Well, it used to be ten grand. It's on sale.
- [52:22]
C
They have the one that's also like the bed. Have you seen the bed version?
- [52:25]
A
The what?
- [52:26]
B
Well, this one. This one does go backwards, right? Show. Show a version of it where it's completely reclined.
- [52:32]
C
That's what I was trying to.
- [52:33]
A
You got this, don't you, Jamie?
- [52:35]
B
No, but he wants things.
- [52:36]
A
Oh, it's a scorpion.
- [52:38]
C
Let me show you something else. Hold on.
- [52:39]
B
So that's pretty wicked. And so you can adjust that and you can make the screen right in front of your face.
- [52:46]
A
Yeah, bro, I'm about to skip four heart treatments and get that chair.
- [52:57]
C
This the other version.
- [52:59]
B
That one's pretty cool too.
- [53:00]
A
Oh, I actually prefer what we're looking at here.
- [53:04]
C
This.
- [53:04]
B
Do you? Well, you prefer that to the. The one that you lie back.
- [53:08]
A
Because I don't. I don't use a control only. The only games I use a controller with is Madden.
- [53:12]
B
So you're a mouse and keyboard guy?
- [53:15]
A
Yeah, almost exclusively.
- [53:16]
B
That's what I am.
- [53:17]
C
A little futon built on.
- [53:19]
B
I never play. I never figured out how to use.
- [53:21]
A
So that futon. Listen, if you're gonna get. Who's choosing the futon? If you got the money for a good gaming PC, you. You better not have no futon.
- [53:29]
B
Well, that's. It just went all in on the gaming PC.
- [53:32]
A
Yeah.
- [53:32]
B
I mean, no choice, no chance of pussy.
- [53:35]
A
My shit's got kind of. It's gotten kind of crazy recently.
- [53:38]
B
Yeah.
- [53:38]
A
Oh, yeah. Did I never show you? Check this shit out.
- [53:41]
B
What you got?
- [53:43]
A
Hold on. Make sure.
- [53:44]
B
Are there any other ones that do it with an even bigger screen like that? That kind of a deal? Like, what is the ultimate setup for like somebody like a Bill Gates?
- [53:53]
C
There's a new. Like the. For the F1 rig we have. Yeah, there's a new screen that's come out that's like a 160 from.
- [54:02]
A
I don't know. So that. That's my. Right there.
- [54:05]
B
Oh.
- [54:06]
A
Oh.
- [54:06]
B
You got a dual monitor set up.
- [54:09]
A
Curved monitors to super ultra wide.
- [54:13]
B
That's a problem.
- [54:14]
A
Yeah, it's a problem.
- [54:16]
B
That's a problem.
- [54:17]
A
Yeah, it is.
- [54:19]
B
I'm gonna send this to me. Send it to me, and I'll send it to Jamie. Oh, do you have Jamie's number?
- [54:23]
A
Yeah, I know I can say send
- [54:25]
B
it to Jamie because that image is crazy. We need to show people that image. That's a problem. If I had that, that'd be a real problem.
- [54:32]
A
Jamie, don't look at your number, though.
- [54:35]
B
I do my best writing, like when I get the most done on my laptop, because I don't ever look at anything else on that laptop. The only time I use the Internet at all is to check things to, like, find out if something's real. And even that I don't use anymore because I use perplexity for that now. I just talk into the phone. But when. If you have that much distraction, like two monitors like that, I would never leave. I would just be playing games all. It's too fun.
- [55:06]
A
It's. It's a. It's too much. It's too much sometimes. It is. It is. And it's a.
- [55:12]
B
They're a problem, man. Games are a problem because they're so good.
- [55:17]
A
You know what it is, man, Is it. It's a. It's a dopamine drip.
- [55:20]
B
Look at that. Look at that setup, bro. What's that thing on the right?
- [55:25]
A
That is for controlling the sound. So. So. So basically like, so say I'm in the. I'm in the chat. I'm in the discord chat. And. And. And I got a YouTube video plan. And I'm in the middle of a game.
- [55:43]
B
Right, Right.
- [55:44]
A
Then I don't. I can. I can reach over and turn down the volume of the game so I can hear somebody more clearly or turn up the music and without having to open up anything on my.
- [55:55]
B
That's crazy. You are an addict.
- [55:58]
A
Yeah.
- [55:58]
B
Jamie, you don't have that, do you?
- [56:00]
C
I was gonna show you mine.
- [56:01]
B
He's got.
- [56:03]
C
I've got way more than that.
- [56:04]
A
Oh, yeah. No, yeah. Jamie's out of control.
- [56:07]
C
I have. I have a soundboard. Played it or connected into mine. So I can. With people.
- [56:14]
A
Can you blur that top thing? Because that people's names?
- [56:19]
C
Yeah, but like I can record sound. Like live sound when someone's chatting and I can record their voice and wow. Back like instantly.
- [56:26]
A
Yeah. This is me not streaming. I'm gonna start streaming this summer, so I'm gonna have to add a couple of things.
- [56:31]
B
So he's gonna start playing video games and streaming it.
- [56:34]
A
Yeah.
- [56:34]
B
You can make a lot of money.
- [56:35]
A
It's easy money too.
- [56:36]
B
It's crazy because you're already going to play games.
- [56:38]
A
And I know some. I know some people just like, they don't go on the road because they make so much money doing this.
- [56:42]
B
Wow. But the problem is how long is that going to last? Going on the road is forever.
- [56:47]
A
Oh, yeah. But you can always do that.
- [56:49]
B
Yeah. But you might not have an audience anymore.
- [56:50]
A
You have that audience.
- [56:51]
B
Oh, that's true.
- [56:52]
A
But they'll be.
- [56:53]
B
They'll be still stuck on those video.
- [56:54]
A
You ever. Have you ever had T. Pain on here?
- [56:56]
B
No.
- [56:57]
A
Yeah, T Pain. He's one of the. Like, he don't. He's like, yo, you gotta. You gotta offer me a lot of money because he still goes on the road. But it's like you gotta pay him because he makes. So he's like, why would I leave. Why would I take less money to leave my house?
- [57:09]
B
He just streams.
- [57:10]
A
He streams. Yeah.
- [57:11]
C
His setup he's got. Is fucking crazy.
- [57:13]
A
It's insane.
- [57:14]
B
Yeah.
- [57:14]
C
He's like, we have one F. One set up. I think he bought six. He's got his whole studios in one room. He's got the racing room over here. He's got, I think probably four different rooms, different things.
- [57:27]
A
So he'll game or he'll have on guests or he'll just make a. He'll just make a song live in front of you.
- [57:33]
C
So it's just like normal live set up. He's got. He's got.
- [57:37]
B
Oh, my God.
- [57:38]
C
Setups. He's got. He's got Multiple screens around there.
- [57:41]
B
Oh, that's crazy. So he has a whole room dedicated.
- [57:43]
C
Oh, yeah.
- [57:44]
B
Oh, my God.
- [57:46]
C
It's all wired together, too.
- [57:47]
B
So when he's streaming, how is he making money?
- [57:51]
A
Sponsors, I think he. He's definitely a twitch partner of some kind.
- [57:55]
B
Okay, so you. You get sponsors and, like, how much do you think he's making?
- [58:01]
A
I. I couldn't. I don't even. I mean, if I had to speculate.
- [58:04]
B
Yeah, speculate.
- [58:05]
A
I would say he's probably make pulling in at least a quarter million a month or something like that. Probably more than that.
- [58:13]
B
Just playing video games.
- [58:14]
A
Just. Just streaming. He only had to play video games. Sometimes he's just talking.
- [58:18]
B
That's crazy. Well, there's a lot of that, right? A lot of streamers. Yeah, there's like, a lot of political streamers. There's just talk.
- [58:24]
A
There's different people that do different things. There's in. There's. They call them IRL streamers. There's nuisance streamers with a nuisance. Yeah, they just walk around with people. Yeah. Simulators.
- [58:35]
B
Two circuit racing simulators and one flight simulator down there. So this is the VR room. Wow. The computer I play on is right here. You step down here. Whoa. It's VR. We got sensors in the roof. This is the workshop. It was just a utility room, but I'm like, why not put 3D printers in there? This is 3D printer.
- [58:54]
A
As you can see, I took a lot of instruments.
- [58:55]
B
Inspiration from Tron. That's amazing.
- [58:59]
A
It was. And he's. And he's married, though.
- [59:02]
B
Yeah. But he's making money. How's his wife gonna complain? You want to go shopping? Listen, lady, this is how we make the money for you to go shopping.
- [59:10]
A
You're right. You're right.
- [59:11]
B
You know, I mean, she can't complain if that's what you actually earn money at. You know, my wife used to complain about the podcast before it started making money.
- [59:18]
A
Really?
- [59:19]
B
Well, she was like, you don't have to do that. I was like, I do. I have to do it. I told people I'd be doing it on Monday at X amount of clock, whatever. Whatever time it was you. But that's just always.
- [59:29]
A
How long until you were, like, fucking just making money.
- [59:33]
B
Oh, it took years. I didn't even try. I never tried to make any money with it. I always did it for free. I did it for fun.
- [59:39]
A
For how many years?
- [59:41]
B
I didn't make money for years.
- [59:42]
A
Oh, wow.
- [59:43]
B
Zero money for years. I never even thought of it making money. It was just for fun. I would just have everybody come over. Like, Seguru would come over. Eddie Bravo would come over. Joey would come over, Duncan. We would just talk shit and just have laughs. It was just for fun. We enjoyed the shit out of it. We had a vaporizer, this giant bag.
- [60:02]
A
Volcano.
- [60:03]
B
Yeah, the volcano. Oh, my God. The thing was horrendous.
- [60:06]
A
I remember when them things first came out, they fucked a lot of people's world.
- [60:09]
B
A lot of people fucked our world up. There's a lot of podcasts in the early days that are unlistenable or watchable because we're just obliterated.
- [60:15]
A
And I thought it could never get past that. And now they got. You know, then they. Then people came up with the dabs, bro.
- [60:22]
B
Jelly Roll has this machine. It looks like a robot. It looks like a little. Like a little Pokemon robot.
- [60:27]
A
Yeah. Wait a minute. Is it that Because Frank Dab machine. Frank Castillo is one of those. He's like sponsored by those people.
- [60:32]
B
That's. Those things are crazy.
- [60:34]
A
What's called peak? The peak people, you know.
- [60:36]
B
I don't know if it's a peak. It looks like a device. Scared me just looking at it.
- [60:39]
A
Can you look up the Peak Pro?
- [60:40]
B
It's big like this. Like this. French press.
- [60:44]
A
Listen. And every time I see Frank, they've come out with a new one. They have one. They have one that's like a Sherloc Holmes pipe, is all electronic and it's all for dabs. But every time, every time he visits me, he's like, hey, bro, check this out.
- [60:54]
B
People like him. Are there a reason why weed still isn't legal?
- [60:59]
A
Well, actually, I just read something today that Trump is. Trump is making.
- [61:02]
B
It's scheduled three now. Yeah.
- [61:03]
A
Oh, he. Oh, it's done.
- [61:04]
B
It's done. We. We to schedule three. So schedule three, first of all, it should be right with alcohol. If you're 21, leave me the alone.
- [61:14]
A
Is it. What is what schedule is alcohol.
- [61:16]
B
Alcohol is not scheduled. It's not a prohibitive substance. I don't think alcohol is scheduled like that. Alcohol for 21 and older is totally legal. So Schedule 1, which is where weed was, which is so crazy, like, the most dangerous, had no medicinal benefit. Harm addiction. Now, I won't argue addiction because I don't think I totally understand it the way other people understand it. I think it's highly genetic. I think addiction is very genetic because people keep telling me that cigarettes are addictive and that nicotine is addictive. I recently got off of nicotine patches and I started taking ultra patches. Do you know what? These are pouches, rather. They're. It's like nootropics. It's like vitamins.
- [61:59]
A
Like, brain vitamins. Nicotine in there?
- [62:01]
B
No, no, no nicotine. And when I started doing it, I was like, okay. I wonder if I'm gonna. Like, I've been doing it. You want to try one? Here. That one's empty. I just bought these off of Amazon. But I was like, I've done it before when I went on vacation. Like, I didn't have them at all, and I didn't have any withdrawals. But then I talked to McCann, and McCann said that when he got off of him, it was like, two weeks where he was, like, super tense and yelling at people. No, no, no.
- [62:30]
A
Oh, nicotine.
- [62:30]
B
Nicotine pouches or cigarettes. He got off of all of it. And then I hear. But so my point is, I think it's a biological thing. I don't think I have the biology. I get addicted to stuff. I get addicted to doing things. Like, I used to be addicted to video games. I would definitely get addicted again if I started playing. I get addicted to pool. I get addicted to martial arts. I get addicted to doing stuff. I get addicted to archery. But I don't think I get a. I probably would if it was, like, oxys or something like that. I get. I think that's just too strong. That would just get me.
- [63:05]
A
I think I'm too much of a control to get addicted to any kind of hard.
- [63:09]
B
Well, you quit cigarettes like that.
- [63:10]
A
Yeah, but you know what? You know why it was easy? It's because I had a heart attack.
- [63:13]
B
Yeah, but the heart attack did it for you.
- [63:15]
A
It did. And I already felt like. So I didn't go. I didn't. The withdrawals were nothing.
- [63:20]
B
I'm gonna send you something. Jamie. This is kind of crazy, but I sent this to Tom Segura. I said, it's time to start smoking again. Because there's this guy that's making this argument that there's a benefit to smoking as long as you do it with the proper diet. That there's some sort of an actual benefit to cigarette smoking. Because one of the things about these blue zones where people, like, live forever. A lot of these people that are, like, living. That are really old, they smoke cigarettes.
- [63:47]
A
Yeah, that's what tripped me the out. Like, you know, every time they. Every time they go, this is the oldest person alive, they. 109.
- [63:53]
B
Right.
- [63:53]
A
And they ask them, they go, what's your secret? Smoke. I drink firewater.
- [63:58]
B
And so listen to this. Smoking is good for them. Top heart surgeons claim is breaking the Internet clip is exploding after Cardio Thoracic surgeon Dr. Stephen Gundry made a claim that's turning everything people thought they knew about smoking upside down. His argument is smoking specifically nicotine can have real benefits when paired with the right lifestyle. At one point even says about a patient, probably it's because he smoked that he's doing so well. Points to long living populations where heavy smoking is common. Claims that in part of Sardinia, 95% of men's woke and live longer than the women. Says nicotine acts as a powerful mitochondrial up uncoupler. Argues that the damage blamed on smoking can be offset by diet and suggests that we've been looking at it completely backwards. According to him, the real question isn't why smoking harms people, it's why some smokers live longer and what we're missing. So there's a video in here. Listen to him talk about it.
- [64:56]
C
Because it's eight minutes long.
- [64:58]
B
Yeah. But just play a little bit of it because it's kind of interesting. Credit to Dr. Mike on YouTube. Been smoking for 45 years and they're living a healthy life. And they say it's because I smoke. And obviously we laugh about it because we all agree that it's not true. So why did this one case move you?
- [65:16]
D
So actually, let me stop you right there. Probably it's because he smoked that he's doing so well.
- [65:23]
B
Okay, we need to back up. How do we get there?
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D
Well, I have a whole chapter in Gut Check looking at the healthiest, longest living people. And one of the unique features of most of the blue zones is that particularly the men are heavy smokers. And the smoking, actually the nicotine in cigarettes is one of the best mitochondrial uncouplers that's ever been discovered. And we've looked at this through the wrong lens. We said, wow, what other healthy lifestyle things are these guys doing that's preventing smoking from harming them? In fact, we should have looked at it the other way. What is it about these people who are smokers that allows them to live to 105, 110 years old? And when you do that, then you say, okay, smoking was good for them. Why don't we see the oxidative stress that smoking we all know occurs? Why don't we see the cancers in these people? And it's because the rest of their diet facilitates the absorption of the oxidative stress in these guys.
- [66:29]
B
So your state is that if you smoke but eat in this specific way, you can Negate the effects of smoking. The negative effects of smoking.
- [66:38]
D
Yeah. What's fascinating, as a heart surgeon, way back in the good old days, most of our patients were smokers and they had specific proximal lesions in their coronary arteries. The rest of their blood vessels were absolutely gorgeous. And they were skinny for the most part.
- [66:57]
B
So how did you gauge that? Did you.
- [66:59]
A
What do you mean? We operate on.
- [67:00]
B
But you operate on what other vessels that you saw. Like you would do peripheral arterial disease screenings on those patients and you would find.
- [67:09]
D
I used to operate on.
- [67:10]
B
Because one of the number one risk factors for peripheral arterial disease is smoking.
- [67:14]
D
Correct. Because the smoking, the oxidative stress isn't facilitate. Isn't stopped by our current diet. Let me give you an example, okay. We're one of the few animals that don't make vitamin C and vitamin C. And I've written about this.
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C
So should we keep going here?
- [67:37]
B
We get it.
- [67:37]
A
I mean, he's.
- [67:38]
B
We got to send people to Dr. Mike's YouTube channel for the rest of it.
- [67:42]
A
But Dr. Mike wasn't having it.
- [67:45]
B
Well, he didn't know. I mean, this guy's the expert and this guy lays it. And Dr. Mike's open minded. He's probably. What he's saying is making sense.
- [67:52]
A
It makes sense to me.
- [67:54]
B
It's a poor diet.
- [67:55]
A
Yeah. That's why I was, I was hoping that video would give me hope, but I'm like, bro, I could, if I could change my diet, I wouldn't have had the heart attack.
- [68:05]
B
Oh.
- [68:05]
A
So I'm have. I'm gonna get this perfect diet so I can smoke die.
- [68:09]
B
I don't think it's a perfect diet. I think you just got to move to Italy, bro. Whenever I, whenever I go there on vacation, I'm like, why am I trying so hard? What am I doing? How come I'm not just chilling?
- [68:19]
A
Well, you know, that's the thing about Italy is they have a, they have a culture of chilling. Yeah, like their culture. I forget what they call it, but is it siesta?
- [68:28]
B
No, that's Mexicans. They call it like that nap they take during the middle of the day.
- [68:32]
A
Yeah, that's only. No, no, no. It's a Spanish thing too.
- [68:35]
B
Oh, okay.
- [68:36]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they, but they, I didn't know they did it in Mexico.
- [68:39]
B
Well, obviously it's Spanish word, right?
- [68:41]
A
Oh, yeah. I didn't know they did it in
- [68:42]
B
Mexico, but yeah, it's a Mex thing.
- [68:44]
A
The Spanish are like, nah. Middle of the afternoon, everybody napping.
- [68:47]
B
Yeah. My friend went to the Ferrari Factory in Italy. And he said, dude, it's hilarious. He goes, they barely work. He goes, they like the reason why it takes so long to get a Ferrari. He was like, these are just chilling. He goes, they take these big, long. Oh, it's Lamborghini. Yeah. He said, they take these big, long breaks for lunch. They eat pasta and they drink wine and they lay down. They take, like, a couple hours for lunch, and they work a few more hours, and then they go home.
- [69:13]
A
They got to figure it out.
- [69:14]
B
Well, I think we work too much, you know, and this is coming from someone who works too much, but I work too much at things I love. It's a different thing, I think, than most people. Most people are working too much at something that's just making them money, and they're probably stressed out all the time, don't enjoy it. But I think if you are working less and just having more enjoyment in life, what are we here for?
- [69:38]
A
See, that's why I'm. That's. I think, subconsciously that's why I've been avoiding streaming. I've been talking about it for years, because I'm like, if I start making
- [69:45]
B
money, right, and then it becomes a
- [69:47]
A
job, bro, I'm gonna be like that. You know that fat kid in the chair and Wally? You ever see that movie?
- [69:52]
B
Yeah.
- [69:53]
A
I'm gonna transform into that.
- [69:55]
B
Just Ubereats.
- [69:56]
A
Yeah. If I just thought Uber eats just
- [69:58]
B
millions of dollars just eating and laying
- [70:00]
A
there, Everybody logging through the discord and
- [70:02]
B
no exercise at all.
- [70:04]
A
Oh, yeah.
- [70:05]
B
Well, the more you stream, the more you make, Right? So there's people that stream more than eight hours a day, don't they?
- [70:10]
A
I mean, theoretically, yeah, but some people stream a lot, and they don't make. You know.
- [70:15]
B
Yeah, but that's also podcasting. There's a lot of people that are doing podcasts that aren't making any money.
- [70:19]
A
Yeah. So. Yeah, but you got a stream to make money, you got to be on.
- [70:23]
B
Yeah, but it's a very specific type of audience, too, though. It's people that are watching streams. Very different audience than who's watching podcasts, I would imagine.
- [70:33]
A
That's hard to say. Yeah, it's hard to say. Yeah. Because I think. I don't know if those. There's probably a lot of overlap in those audiences.
- [70:41]
B
So I don't. What we were talking about before with the smoking, I don't think smoking is good for your lungs. I think it's bad for your lungs. Because everybody I know, they quit smoking. They say their cardio gets better.
- [70:50]
C
This Stuff this, that interview you or we shared came out two years ago.
- [70:55]
B
Oh, did it?
- [70:56]
C
And there was some controversy around it and well, clearly.
- [70:59]
A
What is a blue zone?
- [71:01]
C
Well, that doctor.
- [71:02]
B
Places where people live longer. Okay, okay. So here what it says. Key details regarding Dr. Gundry statements, controversial claims in a conversation with Dr. Mike Gundry suggests suggested smoking could be linked to longer life observing than some long lived individuals. In blue zone smoke mechanism theory, Gundry argues that nicotine functions as a mitochondrial uncoupler and that a high polyphenol diet may mitigate the negative effects of cigarette smoke. Criticism? Experts strongly disagree, noting that smoking is a leading cause of premature death, that any potential benefits are far outweighed by risks. Right, but they're not taking into consideration what he said about food. Despite the headlines, Gunley stated he does not smoke and does not encourage others to do so. So he's just a scientist relaying research.
- [71:47]
A
Yeah. So what are the critics? Strongly disagreeing?
- [71:49]
B
So they're not, they're not making any sense because they're disagreeing, but they're not addressing what he's saying in terms of the high polyphenol diet. Mitigating the negative effects of smoking.
- [71:59]
A
Yeah, I mean that's all he said was what he observed.
- [72:02]
B
This is what I think in my years of trying and using nicotine. I think there's something to nicotine. The reason why I am backing off of it is it up my pool game.
- [72:13]
A
Really?
- [72:14]
B
Yeah. Nicotine gives you a lot of energy and I think like these, like these Alps, these are like 6 milligrams. And then there's Lucy's. I have Lucy's that are 12, but you put them in your mouth, it's like you're sucking on a battery. It's like, it's so strong. It's ridiculous. They make you jittery. And jittery is not good for pool. Pool is a chill game. Pool is like you're concentrating but you want to be completely calm. When you're stroking the ball, like your hand, you're barely holding on to that cue. I hold on the cue like I'm holding a baby bird, you know, it's very calm. You don't want to be like, you know. So a lot of people stop drinking coffee because they play pool. Yeah, yeah. But nicotine in particular, which is interesting because I know a lot of people who smoke cigarettes who play really well. Maybe it's a different feeling in terms of like how it affects your body then. Oh, see, that's a good question. How much nicotine is in a cigarette versus, like one of these ALP pouches. These ALP pouches is Tucker Carlson's company.
- [73:16]
A
It's probably also has to do with like your level of addiction. Like, some people are fully.
- [73:20]
B
Yeah, they. Some people smoke all day.
- [73:22]
A
They need cigarettes just to be back to zero.
- [73:23]
B
John Mellencamp, he was in here. That dude just. That was like one of the big things. Like, can I smoke during the podcast? Like, absolutely. No worries. I go, we got a fake fan. We smoke cigars all the time. So he just chain smoked the entire podcast and he said, find what you love and let it kill you. That's what he said about cigarette smoking.
- [73:40]
A
Oh yeah, that's a. Who's that? Who's that quote from?
- [73:43]
B
I don't know. Typical nicotine amounts. Okay. Standard factory made cigarette usually contains about 10 to 14 milligrams of nicotine. And tobacco, which an average smoker absorbs around 1 to 2 milligrams when smoking it. Nicotine pouches are sold in strengths that commonly range from 2mg up to 12 or more of nicotine per pouch. CDC notes that they can contain high levels of nicotine. Pouches that, with 6 mg nicotine or less were most common, but higher strength. Eight milligram pouches have been growing quickly. Yeah, because people are getting addicted. Cigarettes deliver nicotine to the brain very fast, within 10 to 20 seconds after inhalation, which makes them high, highly reinforcing, and strongly addictive. Pouches release nicotine through the lining of the mouth, so the rise in blood nicotine is slower and more prolonged compared with a cigarette hit, though total absorbed dose over 20 to 60 minutes can be similar depending upon strength or how long the pouch is used. But the thing about like, pouches is people just keep popping them. Like Shane, that dude just pops them every 10 minutes. He's popping 6 milligrams, like every 10 minutes. Combustible cigarettes clearly more harmful overall because smoke contains more than 7,000 chemicals, many toxic and carcinogenic, whereas pouches avoid combustion but still expose you to an addictive drug with cardiovascular effects.
- [75:05]
A
That's why I'm convinced that people that do all the other forms of nicotine are way more addicted than smokers are.
- [75:12]
B
Well, I'll tell you one thing that I felt was the most addictive version of it that I tried was vaping those, like, Escobar things. Those, those are weird. Here's another weird thing about those vaping ones. The only good hit is the first hit, maybe the second.
- [75:29]
A
Have you Seen how. You see how vapors act when they can't find their vape?
- [75:32]
B
Oh, they freak out.
- [75:33]
A
It's. It is.
- [75:35]
B
They get sketchy.
- [75:36]
A
It's crazy. They get crazy.
- [75:39]
B
I saw.
- [75:39]
A
I was in D.C. last year, and I popped in on this comedy spot, and I. And I go. And I go to the bathroom, and there's a vape sitting on the sink. Like, somebody put a vape there to wash their hands or something. And I go out to the bar, and I remember all the com. I remember. I bought the. I bought the comics. Like, the comics are at the bar waiting to go up. And I bought around for the comics, and one of them was like, oh, thanks, man. Got up, went to the bathroom, came back, sat next to his friend, was like, oh, bro, I found this vape in there. And they both hit this vape. So they went. He took a vape out the bathroom
- [76:16]
B
that somebody else was just sucking on. Some guy who could have been eating ass just 20 minutes ago, right?
- [76:20]
A
Also, it was on the sink in the back in the men's room at a comedy club. That's crazy.
- [76:25]
B
Hey, I found it. Let's take hits off of it. Yeah, that's crazy.
- [76:29]
A
It would be tough if that was my vape, and I set it on the counter and be like, oh, right. Because that's probably what happened. Somebody said it there out of reflex and was like, I don't want that. It's been. It's been. This is right here with all this filthy.
- [76:39]
B
Maybe. Or maybe they're like, I gotta leave this thing.
- [76:41]
A
This men's. Men's room sink water. Nah, you could keep that.
- [76:47]
B
You could keep doing this. These guys are just sucking on it at the bar. But I guess if you dip it in whiskey to be. All right. Dip it in your glass before you take a hit, bro.
- [76:56]
A
You could just wait till. You could just wait till you get to your vape, because it's not the.
- [77:01]
B
The first hit is the only one that's good. The first hit is, like, euphoric. The first hit of a. Like a Escobar. You like this. Like, oh, yeah, everything's amazing. But that. You don't get that with a second hit. It doesn't, like, maintain. After a while, you're just taking hits, and you just feel nervous. Like, this is terrible. This doesn't feel good. But it's the first hit. The first hit's wonderful.
- [77:22]
A
Oh, yeah. You know how many. You know how many vapors I've had to curse out because they unplug my phone? They're like, yo, what. Yo, you was at 30.
- [77:31]
B
Like, what the is wrong with you? I need it all day, right?
- [77:34]
A
Don't unplug my junkies. They really are junkies.
- [77:38]
B
Oh, they're junkies. I see people hit them all the time, and they. They hit them like a fiend.
- [77:42]
A
And. And you know, the worst thing is the people that they try to start vaping, it's like, to replace smoking, they just end up doing both.
- [77:53]
B
Well, I think the vaping is more addictive than smoking.
- [77:55]
A
Oh, yeah, because you can. You know why? It's because one. Like you said, I think the. The. The. You're getting delivered more nicotine than. Than a smoker will get, even though. Look, smoking has other bad shit that you're putting in you, you know? But in terms of addiction is what I'm saying. I'm not saying vaping is worse for you, but. But you're getting more nicotine, and you can. You can vape in places you can't smoke.
- [78:18]
B
And on top of that, you're getting all these weird oils and chemicals and stuff in there that aren't good for you.
- [78:25]
A
But you. But you can vape anytime, right? You can vape. You can vape.
- [78:27]
B
You know, like, people are getting these new diseases, like pop lung. Have you heard of that?
- [78:31]
A
I heard of that, but I ain't heard of nobody that got it. I've heard, like, you know, it's one of those, like, what do you call them, Urban myths or.
- [78:39]
B
There's a kid that I knew back in California, he was one of. One of the people in our neighborhood's child, and he was 19, and he was in college, and he was vaping like crazy. He was vaping all day long, and he got pneumonia and wound up dying. And they connected it to the vape, like, he had destroyed his lungs. Yeah, kids are damaging their lungs.
- [79:00]
A
Do you know, I think that started back when. You remember when some. Some people have, like, the adjustable ones where, like, you. Where like.
- [79:06]
B
Oh, the big ones. Yeah, crazy ones.
- [79:08]
A
Because now the popular ones are, like, the disposable ones.
- [79:10]
B
Adam Curry has one of them big jams.
- [79:12]
A
Yeah. One of them big rigs. I think people were going crazy back then, like, in the beginning of it when. When nobody knew a lot.
- [79:18]
B
The real vapors, man, they still go crazy, but they're doing it themselves. They think it's healthier. They're getting, like, their own, like, nicotine drops. They're putting it in the thing, and they're putting their own oil. They're using, like, mct Oil.
- [79:30]
A
Because it's healthy, this organic poison.
- [79:32]
B
Yeah. Whereas, like, if you're getting it from a factory in China or Vietnam. Have you ever seen that one? There's one video of a dude who has to test every vape when it comes out of the factory with this.
- [79:42]
A
With his mouth.
- [79:42]
B
With his mouth. The ones you get have already been sucked on. So this dude is just sucked in Vietnam just. I don't know where he is. He might be in Laos. He's just sucking. Just wherever this vape factory is, this dude's just. Just sucking on this vape over and over and over again. Everybody's vape he sucks on once to make sure it's good before he sends it out.
- [80:01]
A
Bro, we're doomed.
- [80:02]
B
So this guy's got. What is his dose of caffeine in a day? It must be off the charts.
- [80:08]
A
Yeah, so that. That's the other thing. I think the vapors are more addictive because they get more nicotine. They just get to do it. They just do it all the time.
- [80:14]
B
You could definitely do it, but I'm telling you, it's like you don't get the good feeling. Like, it's weird. It's weird. Like a cigar. Like, the. The relaxation, the good nicotine feeling of a cigar. You get that, like, every time you take a hit out of a cigar. That's not the case with a vape, at least not for me. Look at this dude. He's sucking on every one of these, checking them out. Look. That's nuts. They got to make sure they're good. Like, how vaped out is this cat?
- [80:44]
A
That's probably how. That's probably what he gets paid. And just vaped. Just smoke.
- [80:50]
B
I mean, how many thousands of vapes is this kid sucking on in a day? How many do you test in a day? He says around 7 to 8,000 tests per day. Jesus Christ. Does that dude sleep at all? He probably dreams in, like, horrible black and white, like, lightning bolts.
- [81:10]
A
And he also smokes after work.
- [81:12]
B
Oh, my God. Someone should see how long that guy lives.
- [81:17]
A
Bro, that boy's done.
- [81:18]
B
Yeah, he's not in the blue zone.
- [81:21]
C
Oh, bro, I was just looking at popcorn lung.
- [81:24]
B
Yeah, it's.
- [81:26]
C
It's older. It's. It's developed. According to this. It came around 2000 when people at a actual popcorn factory.
- [81:34]
B
Whoa.
- [81:35]
C
Were exposed to a chemical that was causing what called broncholitis. Obliterate, bro.
- [81:41]
B
Look at this. It's first recognized from clusters of workers at a microwave popcorn factory exposed to the butter flavoring chemical diacetyl. Wow. I thought it made your lungs look like popcorn.
- [81:53]
C
This is saying there's like, it's very, it's super rare for. Outside of that actually though.
- [81:59]
B
Cancer researchers UK states that there have been no confirmed cases of popcorn lungs specifically caused by E cigarettes, although some older E liquids contained diacetyl before regulations tightened. Do you think that's like big tobacco trying to scare people away from vapes?
- [82:14]
A
No, no, they, no, I think they invested in that.
- [82:17]
B
Yeah. But if they don't, like what if it's like some companies maybe don't and they're worried that these cheap vapes.
- [82:23]
A
Well, there's only, there's only, there's only three companies. The big tobacco is really big tobacco.
- [82:27]
B
So it's R.J. reynolds.
- [82:29]
A
What are the other ones for the Morris or is it Philip Morris? And then there's a, and then there's a overseas one. Maybe there's four companies.
- [82:36]
B
Who's making the American spirits cigarettes?
- [82:40]
A
It's the same people.
- [82:41]
B
Is it the same people?
- [82:42]
A
There's only three or four big tobacco companies.
- [82:44]
B
This lady, Suzanne Humphries, who's a doctor, she, she was making the argument that those cigarettes are probably not even that bad for you.
- [82:51]
A
And, and they own, and they see the writing on the wall like they own all the pat. All the patch companies. They own that. Of course.
- [82:57]
B
Why wouldn't they?
- [82:58]
A
Because the writing's on the wall. They start, they, they're, they were talking about it in Canada and now I think they're trying to do it in the UK where basically like, like people of a certain age will never be able to buy cigarettes.
- [83:07]
B
They. Yeah, I think they're doing that in Canada right now. Or they're definitely doing that in the uk. That's right. No. American spirit cigarettes are not safer than other cigarettes despite marketing that highlights natural and addictive free tobacco. Studies show they contain similar levels of toxic cancer causing chemicals as other brands. Research suggests they may even be more addictive due to higher nicotine levels. No reduced harm, no evidence of the absence of additives make cigarette smokes less harmful on high nicotine addiction. Studies have found that many varieties have higher nicotine yields compared to other popular brands, suggesting higher addictiveness. Misleading marketing. FDA previously required the manufacturers to stop using natural and additive free in marketing as these terms falsely implied lower risk. Why does that imply lower risk if you say additive free? Consumer misconception 64 of American spirit smokers incorrectly believe they're less harmful, often because of their natural branding. This lady, this doctor was making that Argument. She was saying the chemicals that they add to cigarettes that make them more addictive. Like, remember that Russell Crowe movie, the Insider? You remember that movie? Good movie. It's about. About a guy who is a true story about a guy who's a doctor who works at a tobacco company that makes cigarettes. And he's specifically formulating these chemicals in order to make people way more addicted. And then he has to go to court and they try to kill him. It's like, you know, big kind of whistleblower type drama. But that was. That was the premise of that film, which is also based on real life. And what she's saying is that those chemicals that make you more addictive are probably much more dangerous, and that just the actual tobacco itself is probably not as dangerous. She wasn't definitively stating this. She was just saying that most likely they're probably safer for you.
- [84:59]
A
Well, the American Spirit ones also, you smoke less because they take forever to smoke. So every time I was smoking around an American Spirit smoker, you know, you'll see a damn 3/4 of a cigarette left in the ashtray.
- [85:13]
B
Do you think that those. Like Marlboros and like that, like, they. They smoke quicker on purpose so they smoke more of them?
- [85:20]
A
Yeah, I think they. They're. They're probably. I think something they add to them, make them. Because that's the thing with American Spirit. You sit it down, it'll go out.
- [85:28]
B
Right.
- [85:29]
A
But if you. If I. If I was the light of Marlboro and set it down there, it'll. It would burn all the way up.
- [85:33]
B
Right.
- [85:34]
A
I think they do that. So you waste cigarettes.
- [85:36]
B
That makes sense.
- [85:37]
A
Oh, yeah, for sure.
- [85:38]
B
That makes sense. Yeah. Because they probably calculate over time how much money that would be.
- [85:43]
A
Yeah. In fact, I read somewhere like that is why there are 20 packs in a cigarette. 20 cigarettes in a pack is because they. They discovered that that's exactly how many you needed to smoke as much as possible in one day. Like, in terms of how long, how long it's in your system when you start getting another craving, you can smoke.
- [86:03]
B
Well, that's crazy, because some people smoke two packs a day. Three packs.
- [86:06]
A
Yeah. Those people are like, oh, animals.
- [86:09]
B
How are they alive?
- [86:10]
A
I don't know, but I was getting close.
- [86:12]
B
Where were you at?
- [86:13]
A
I was at a little over. Like, I was at a little over a pack a day where I would smoke a. I would go through a
- [86:19]
B
whole pack and then tip into the
- [86:21]
A
next pack, dip into the next one.
- [86:23]
B
Yeah, it makes sense that they would buy patches. Why wouldn't they. And why wouldn't they buy up the companies that have alternatives like gum, Nicorette?
- [86:32]
A
Years ago, the VA tried to get. Get me to quit, and they. They. They prescribed me the patches.
- [86:38]
B
Yeah, but like, you.
- [86:40]
A
Like this. Like I said, it's like there's. There's 12 to 14 milligrams in a cigarette, but you only end up getting one or two.
- [86:47]
B
Right.
- [86:47]
A
But the patch is five. The lowest. The lowest step of the patch is five.
- [86:51]
B
And do you feel it?
- [86:52]
A
Yeah. You. You have crazy dreams too.
- [86:55]
B
Whoa.
- [86:55]
A
You put one of them patches on before you go to bed, you gonna. You gonna have a fucking crazy dream. And now you're more addicted. It.
- [87:03]
B
Oh, right.
- [87:04]
A
Cuz. Cuz you're not used to getting five. Now you getting five all night. You wake up like. Oh, like you're not getting. You're not used to getting nicotine all night.
- [87:11]
B
Ron White used to wear a patch and smoke all day.
- [87:14]
A
Yeah, that's what I was about to tell you. Like, everybody I knew that got on the patches was patching and smoking.
- [87:19]
B
Yeah, Ron was patching and smoking. And then one hypnotism session quit everything cold turkey.
- [87:25]
A
Really?
- [87:26]
B
Yep.
- [87:26]
A
That's weird, because he don't seem very suggestive.
- [87:29]
B
I know, right?
- [87:30]
A
Yeah. I mean, I don't think I've ever seen him change his mind about nothing.
- [87:33]
B
About nothing. Ever. All the arguments that he's had with
- [87:35]
A
Tony in the green room, I live for that. I live for those moments.
- [87:41]
B
Those are hilarious. Ron digs his heels in.
- [87:44]
A
As soon as I hear Ron go, well, well, yeah, well, that's not my experience. Yeah.
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B
He was wearing the patch and he was smoking those little cigars. You know, those little cigars. He was smoking them like cigarettes. You're supposed to not inhale those little suckers. Like those little suckers have way more nicotine. You know those little tiny Monte Cristos, those little things. You're supposed to smoke those like a cigar. Like when I smoke them, I try to smoke them like a cigar. You take. You hold it in your. It's a tiny cigar.
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A
You can't tell these Texas gentlemen.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Not to smoke nothing.
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B
Well, Ron has got amazing willpower because he. He got off the alcohol and just done. Done never touched again. Got off the cigarettes, done. Never touched him again.
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A
Yeah, I love that guy.
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B
He's the best. He's the best. But it's like that ability to just turn something off like that. The amount of money. How much money. Let's look into that. How much money is in the nicotine Business overall in America, it's probably way more now with pouches and vapes on top of cigarettes. I think it's less now, but I bet the cigarettes probably been less. But now so many people are on the pouches and so many people are vaping.
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A
Well, the thing is, I think there's. I think there's less money overall. But. But that's why there's less companies, because they keep getting bought.
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B
Right?
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A
Right. Because people are smoking less. Like kid. The kids are smoking way less cigarettes. Way less cigarettes. And they. They don't vape as much as we think.
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B
But I think there are. A lot of them are on the zins. A lot of them are on pouches.
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A
Mmm.
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B
Let's guess. What do you think the overall industry of cigarettes or nicotine, nicotine products in America, the collective amount of money that nicotine products in America generate every year?
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A
I'm gonna say 10 billion.
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B
Yeah, that sounds about right. It's less than 10 billion for the whole country. I'll say 6. Let's say 6 billion because there's 350 million people plus Mexicans.
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C
That's just for the oral.
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B
Nicotine is how much?
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C
Six.
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B
Whoa.
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C
Cigarettes is way higher.
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B
What is cigarettes?
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C
76 billion.
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A
Oh, that's more than sports, bro.
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B
That's crazy football. It's cigarettes and traditional tobacco, which put in, like, cigars.
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C
Cigars and like, the.
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B
Speaking of which.
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A
But. Okay, but what. What was it 20 years ago?
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C
Was it higher 20 years ago? From what I looked.
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B
But it does.
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C
It has grown. It's growing slowly every year. It's a total of 100 billion. When you include everything together, that's crazy.
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A
Well, I mean, but it isn't really crazy because it's one of the. It's one of the. It's one of the legal and socially acceptable drugs to be on all day. Yeah, you can smoke it. Cause you can't even drink at work.
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B
Especially if you use pouches. Now everybody's using pouches.
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C
Are predicting the pouches are going to go from around 4 to 6 billion now. And by 2030. So it's only five to six years from now. Could get up to 50 billion.
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B
Well, here's the thing. They have nootropic benefits. Like, they do enhance your cognitive performance. Nicotine does. And there's a lot of people that swear by them, like, for creativity and stuff. Like, one of the things that Stephen King talked about in that book on writing was that one of his biggest bumps in the road with his writing careers, when he quit smoking, he's Had a really hard time, like, getting his synapses to fire the same way. So it was really noticeable, the difference in quitting nicotine. But then again, his best shit, he wrote when he was on coke. He was doing coke and drinking beer.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And he wrote his best, craziest when he was doing that.
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A
No, but I'm gonna be honest about that, though. Like, I. I do feel less creative or let. Or less. Not create. Not less creative, but less. I don't know. It does feel like. It feels like my brain, where it's working different.
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B
What about cigars? You ever thought about cigars? Or you just, like, think it's too much of a gateway?
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A
Yeah, I would be right back on it. I'll be right back on it. Maybe we can we get some other nicotine drops, Jamie, you can just shoot it into your eyeballs.
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B
You with the pouches at all, or do you worry that the pouches will bring you closer to the cigarettes?
- [92:13]
A
No, but I've never. With the pouches. I don't know.
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B
You want to try one?
- [92:16]
A
Aren't I trying one? Oh, this doesn't have nicotine.
- [92:18]
B
That is no nicotine. That's an ultra pouch. Don't do it. No, no, no, no, no.
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A
Maybe the gum. Maybe I'll try the gum.
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B
Yeah, I've tried the gum. I like pouches.
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A
How's that?
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B
I like pouches better. It's interesting that, like, they would probably. I wonder how much money is spent how. Okay, what is the patch? What's the patch worth? Like, how much does that generate?
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A
You know, what's wild. They was trying to give me nicotine in the hospital. For what? Because they. Because they knew I was a smoker, and they were like, you don't. You don't want any? I was like, no.
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B
How are they trying to give it to you? In what way?
- [92:53]
A
I don't know if it was a pouch or a gum, but.
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B
But they have mints too.
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A
It had been prescribed to me, and it was just sitting there, and they. And they, you know, and every time a shift changed, somebody would run me, hey, so, you know, you got some. You know, you got some shoes already? I was like, no, I'm okay.
- [93:05]
B
They. Somebody sent me some nicotine mints, and they made me nervous. Like, I didn't like them. They made me feel uncomfortable. Okay. Nicotine patches are a tiny slice the nicotine economy. The US they amount to most a few hundred million dollars per year versus tens of billions for cigarettes and other nicotine products.
- [93:22]
A
Yeah, but you know what? The reason they the reason they still invest in them is because every time you try to quit and you use the pouches, when you come back, you're more addicted, right?
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B
That's right.
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A
So it's just. It's a cycle.
- [93:33]
B
Yeah. It's insurance that you'll get back on the cigarettes.
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A
Yeah. Because I bet you they're not. They probably don't track how many people.
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B
What's so funny?
- [93:40]
C
Nicotine replacement therapy Therapy.
- [93:43]
B
The global nicotine replacement therapy market, patches, gum, lozenges, etc is around 3.1 billion. Therapy.
- [93:50]
C
Just reading that in this room, I
- [93:51]
B
know it's like a silly, weird conspiracy or something like it predicted to reach US$4.7 billion by 2034. But. But it makes sense that they would invest in that like E.T. you know, why wouldn't they? It's like if they're smart business people, you know?
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A
Yeah.
- [94:11]
B
Did you hear about that Special forces soldier that got in trouble because he bet on polymarket that Maduro was going to be kidnapped?
- [94:20]
A
Or they found out who it was.
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B
Yeah, they caught the dude.
- [94:23]
A
Oh no.
- [94:24]
B
Yeah, he made four. I believe he made $400,000. And he tried to cover his tracks,
- [94:30]
A
but I thought it was like Trump's son or something. People thought it was, assumed it was.
- [94:33]
B
It was Don Jr. Well, who knows what they've done?
- [94:37]
A
Oh yeah.
- [94:38]
B
I mean they're probably not looking at them the same way they're looking at these special forces.
- [94:41]
A
Boy, Trump don't leave no crumbs on the table. He's like, I need all this bread. I'm on the way out. I still need this bread.
- [94:46]
B
Yeah. I mean think about that. That the, the coin, the Trump coin. I mean, that's crazy. That's crazy. If you legal. But it's Melania coin.
- [94:56]
A
Like, bro, if you, if you buying any celebrities coins, you deserve to lose your money.
- [95:02]
B
But I think it, what Metzger explained to me, he goes, these are gambling addicts. They're gambling. He goes, they know. They know that it's going to crash. No one's under any illusion this is going to last forever. They try to get in and get out and make money while they're doing it.
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A
It.
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B
It's like they just figure out when to buy, when to sell.
- [95:16]
A
Yeah, but there are people that think that, you know, those are, those are the suckers. Those are who you're getting money from. It's the ones that think it.
- [95:23]
B
You could look at it that way or you could look at it is this is an effective way to pay people off legally. So here's the thing, I'm not accusing anybody doing this, but I'm saying, let's say if I started a JRE coin and maybe some Middle Eastern government decided they were going to invest in $500 million in a JRE coin, and then I announce the JRE coin, they put in the money to back this JRE coin, I get a substantial stake in the JRE coin. So I get a bunch of JRE coins and then I just dump all my JRE coins and then it go, I get, I get all that money and then it goes from being worth X amount of dollars to being worth almost nothing.
- [96:04]
A
Is that the pump and dump?
- [96:05]
B
That's the pump and dump. Oh, yeah, yeah. So that'd be a way I'd pay you. So like, say maybe if you and I had some sort of a deal that was a little shady and I said, brian, how about this? I can't pay you outright, but what I can do is why don't you start a crypto coin and I will invest in your crypto coin, which is a very legal venture, and I will put in a hundred million dollars into your crypto coin. And so now your crypto coin, a bunch of people will also throw money in because there's $100 million in it and they know that it's going to pump. A dump is going to happen like the real clever fuckers. And then you just get out. So you get out as soon as it hits the peak. Like you get it set up so that like maybe peaks in 24 hours or whatever the fuck it is. Like, let's, like let's. Again, we're not accusing anybody of anything, but let's look at, nor are we taking notes. Let's look at Trump coin. How much was Trump coined worth, like right after it came out versus five days later. So somewhere that money has to go somewhere. And so if I invested in Brian Simpson coin and then that money it got to the coin was worth. I don't know what, what a coin's worth. I don't know what it's worth, but let's just say it got to its peak. And then you sell and you just dump all your coins and so that you just rake in a big pile of money, millions and millions of dollars. And then everybody else is like, they're the people that like were dummies, they don't get anything. And then me, I didn't expect to get any money. I'm just trying to bribe you. I'm trying to pay you off.
- [97:39]
A
What the thing Is, does that make sense? Oh, yeah. The thing is, America is like 3/4 scams, a lot of scams. And some people sit around complaining about the scams instead of getting in on them.
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B
Did you hear what Dr. Oz said?
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A
No.
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B
Dr. Oz works for the government now. They, California has a big hostile scam going on. You know how like Minneapolis and Minnesota had the daycare scam. California has a bunch of fake hostels where they're taking care of people. That's what it is. Right. So they, they shut funding down to 400 of them. Not one of them complained. It is like, see ya.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And so it's his assertion that that's because they were all scams. So that Nick Shirley guy, the same guy that investigated the fraud in Minneapolis, he's investigated some of the fraud in California. And one of the things that they found in some of his videos is like a lot of these businesses are registered to like a hotel. And like every room in this vacant hotel is a different office for whatever company. And so each room in the hotel is raking in money as an office that's supposed to be working as a hostel or as some sort of, you know, a rehab center or, you know, fill in the blank. They have all these learning centers, all these different kinds of things, and it's all just government scams, Medicaid scams.
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A
Getting on the scam, get in on the scam. Scamming is the American way.
- [99:07]
C
Looking at it how you asked isn't the best way to look at this? Here's what it said.
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B
Of course not.
- [99:12]
C
Show you what it says after this, though.
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B
Okay. Trump's official Trump meme coin, launched at around US$1 range, reported roughly 0.18 to 0 1.20. And within about five days it crashed down from a brief spike near 70 to US$75 down to a high of 30s per coin. So that's within five days. So it spiked at 75, then it dropped down to 30. Different data provides slightly different start points, but they are in the same general zone. Crypto analytics notes Trump was launched on 1-17-20 have initially worth 18 cents per token. So everybody buys in when that happens. Other coverage and exchange post described trading beginning around $1 or about $1 within the first hours after launch. So reasonable takeaway is Launch price is 0.2 to 1.0 US dollars per Trump, depending on which exact tick you chose. So within first hours after launch, the price skyrocketed from around $1 to around US$75. So that's when you want to get out within the first hours. Reports the same weekend cite highs near 70 to 75 US dollars and a market cap over 10 to 12 billion. A finance report on days after launch trading started around US$7 on Friday, jumped as high as 74 on Sunday. So that's when you're supposed to get out. So let me ask this, what is it worth now?
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C
That's like $2 now.
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B
Interesting. So it got as high as $74.
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A
Now you gotta hold on to it.
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B
Now you're just in case there's a little bit more.
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C
It's like there's more into it because it's not the easiest coin to get and how do you get it? And all those kinds of things come into play. And that's kind of what I think this sentence is more about.
- [101:02]
B
Right. But if it went to 75, somebody must have made a ton of loot suit.
- [101:07]
A
Right?
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B
Had to.
- [101:09]
C
Yeah, that's what it says.
- [101:10]
B
Right.
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C
800000 wallets, which could be people collectively
- [101:14]
B
lost around $2 billion while the Trump organization and partners profited heavily from fees. Interesting. So that this is the thing. Like that's just that one. What is the worst pump and dump in crypto coin history? Let's look at that.
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A
Wasn't that.
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B
Let's find out. Sam Bankman Fried. That's it.
- [101:33]
A
I think it was him.
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B
Well, I think what he was doing, he said that if he was left alone he would have recovered debt and that he had been doing this back and forth. They just caught him in a moment where this one guy sold all his coins off to try to crash him on purpose like his rival. And then he didn't have the money to cover the spread. And then people wanted their money out and then, and then they realized. But he had been. They all do that apparently. It was what his art?
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A
I don't know.
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B
But that's what his argument was I believe is that. I think he said that if he was not that they didn't interfere with him, not only would those coins have gotten the money back, but they would be profitable today.
- [102:12]
A
See, I. I have friends that have profited from it, but when I hear them talk about it, it's like I just don't quite understand it fully.
- [102:20]
B
I feel exact same way.
- [102:21]
A
And I can't put my money in some shit that I. If I can't articulate how, how I can make money, I can't do it.
- [102:28]
B
Yeah. Not only do I not understand it, I don't trust it. Yeah, it sounds crazy to me. I Had people that try to talk you into it. They freak me out.
- [102:38]
A
Well, a lot of times they just know there's a new scam, somebody in my family getting caught up with these scammers. But they're finding elderly. It's like going through the elderly community. A new. A new Ponzi pyramids. Ponzi scheme.
- [102:51]
B
Oh, no.
- [102:52]
A
And they're basically, they're telling these old folks that they had. That they are joining a crypto Exchange. Exchange. But the crypto isn't real. So they. They download. They down. They have. They download this app and they telling them all you got to do is get up every morning and make these trades. And you make. You make, you know, this much percent of your money back. And so. And they go, and you know what? And just so you know, it's not a scam, I'm gonna put in a grand for you. I'm gonna put in two, five. I. I put in five grand for you. But you don't realize that money's fake too. You download the app, they can show you however much money you want, but
- [103:26]
B
you can't get that money out.
- [103:27]
A
So here's how to get you. So they get you either way. So if. If you do. So, the. The ultimate plan is to lull you into going like they want you to look, they want you to log on every day and see that number going up and going, oh, shit, I'm gonna put my money in there so I can make even more money. Right? That's the ultimate plan. But if you. Even if you got suspicious and you're like, I want to take my money out, well, they go, okay, well, just send us an early withdrawal fee. So they only end up getting a little bit of money out of you, but they still get real money out of you for no money. And even if you end up getting so suspicious that you won't even do that, well, they, they. They got you to download this app on your phone, and so they got your information.
- [104:09]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [104:09]
A
Most people use the same login credentials across apps. So you done gave them that as well, right? You know, or your.
- [104:15]
B
They got your email address, they could sell that.
- [104:17]
A
And they have your. They have your security questions, so they know your first dog's name and shit. So it's like, at the very least, they get in the way with your info, right? Or some of your real money, you know, and a lot of old folks, they hear crypto and they don't really understand it. So it's easy to convince them that, oh, it's Just something I don't understand, but this app makes it easy for me.
- [104:37]
B
Isn't it crazy that the poly market thing for this special Forces soldier, that he's going to jail for this, but Congress is allowed insider trade.
- [104:48]
A
Oh, bro, bro.
- [104:50]
B
And that, that's kind of crazy because you can't be. You can't be sure that the mission to try to overthrow Maduro is going to be successful. Right. So if they're trying to overthrow Maduro, that's a military operation. They're not always successful. So if he's gambling on a military operation that he's about to embark in, he's kind of betting on his own life.
- [105:12]
A
Well, I think what they're getting him for is more that he endangered the mission.
- [105:18]
B
Really?
- [105:19]
A
Because I seen. Because they're saying. Because. Yeah, because you're. Because if, if, if we're supposed to keep our military movements a secret and it gets out there that someone keeps on predicting when we're going to make certain movements, then our enemies will be watching polymarket for when people bet on
- [105:38]
B
that actually makes sense.
- [105:39]
A
Right.
- [105:39]
B
Is that really the case, Jamie? What is he in trouble for?
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C
I mean, I was, I'm reading through the justice.gov thing. What Brian was saying started to make sense off of here, but at the bottom it says the actual charges. And the charges are three counts of violating the Commodity Exchange act, each which carries a maximum of 10 years. One count of wire fraud, which is a 20 year max. One count of unlawful monetary transaction, which is a 10 year max. And what's the other one? Well, that's only two, but it says there's three.
- [106:14]
B
That's crazy because like, how come no one in Congress ever gets in trouble?
- [106:19]
A
They do sometimes. No, they don't. When they don't vote correctly. No. Like every year somebody goes down, they're
- [106:24]
B
not insider trading, they get busted for other.
- [106:26]
A
Yeah, you're right. For like taking bribes and stuff like that.
- [106:28]
B
Yeah. Has anybody ever been busted Congress wise for insider trading on stocks? I don't think so. If. I guess there was another controversy recently. They're accusing Fetterman of doing it, but
- [106:40]
A
the type of shit the average person goes to jail for. Oh my God.
- [106:43]
B
What?
- [106:44]
A
You want to talk about something that'll piss you off about somebody going to jail? Yeah, this guy in Florida. What was his name?
- [106:49]
C
Yeah, a few people have for sure.
- [106:51]
B
Really? Congresspeople for insider trading?
- [106:53]
C
Yeah, Even recently.
- [106:54]
B
That's crazy.
- [106:56]
C
It says Rep. From New York, Chris Collins pled guilty in 2019 to insider trading and lying after tipping his Son about a drug trial. 26 months, once in prison. T. Mobile stock purchase.
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A
Definitely, definitely no. No senators though.
- [107:09]
B
Well, these are people that nobody knows. Look at these people. This ain't Nancy Pelosi 2020 scandal.
- [107:17]
A
Occasionally no powerful people are going to prison for that. No, Martha Stewart's the most, the most powerful person that ever went to jail.
- [107:24]
B
Yeah, but she didn't even go to jail for that. She went to jail for lying. 78 members have been arrested.
- [107:28]
C
One different con. Not, not arrested, but all violated the stock act.
- [107:32]
B
Interesting. Which requires reporting financial trades within 45 days. Maybe that's just because they tried to hide it and everybody else is just like, oh, I just made a good deal.
- [107:41]
A
They're saying just in this Congress in
- [107:43]
C
April, three candidates were fined by Kalshee for allegedly whatever political insider trading by
- [107:50]
B
betting on their own races. But wait a minute, you can't bet on your own race. That seems crazy. If you think you're going to win, you don't know if you're gonna win.
- [107:58]
A
No one knows. But, but I, but you're probably the first one to know which way it's gonna go.
- [108:04]
B
I don't know about that. I don't think those pop. Those polls are ever correct. That's not true. It must be somewhat correct.
- [108:12]
C
They were suspended from Kalshi, so I don't know that they got in trouble.
- [108:15]
A
So that. So Joe, check this out. This is, this is gonna get under your skin. So this dude Michael Martin in Florida, he, he, he made an addition to his house, a million dollar addition to his house. It got approved by the city and everything. And after he put it up, his neighbors complained. They went and dug up some like hundred year old statute and, and complained, right? So they take them to court and his argument is, well, it got approved by the city. You like, that's why I built it.
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B
Right?
- [108:51]
A
So them. But he, but he compromised already. He compromised and he, he put up a thing to block his view so it wouldn't bother them.
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B
Okay.
- [109:01]
A
And that wasn't good enough for them. So then the judge ended up ordering him to tear it all down.
- [109:08]
B
Oh my God.
- [109:09]
A
And he refused. And now he's still in jail, right? He's still in jail right now.
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B
Oh my God.
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A
For contempt of court.
- [109:14]
B
Is this a homeowners association thing?
- [109:17]
A
No, no, it's just his neighbor. No, because he, he, everything was approved. It got approved by the hoa, got approved by the city and everything.
- [109:24]
B
And he spent all his money, he
- [109:25]
A
spent all his money, built it up and then, and then his Neighbor had a problem with it.
- [109:28]
B
Oh, his neighbor's a piece of.
- [109:29]
A
And now. And now the judge wants him to tear it down.
- [109:31]
B
You imagine your neighbor wanting you to take down an addition to your house.
- [109:34]
A
Like, why do you give a right now if you. If I'm going to. If I'm going to jail over there, I'm gonna whoop your ass. I'm at least be in there for some.
- [109:42]
B
Something that's so crazy that people can take someone to court for doing something to their house. Like, what does it matter to you? Is it affecting your view? Like what is it?
- [109:50]
A
Yeah, I think it's one. It's one of those things where it's like the. Technically, I think the argument you can make is that I bought this house because the forest was right there and he's chopping down the forest even though.
- [110:02]
B
Is that what he's doing though?
- [110:03]
A
No, that's not what he's doing. But it's like I don't know what. And I forget what the statute is that they found. His name was Michael, Michael Martin, but they found some old ass technicality. Right. That the city didn't even know about because they approved it.
- [110:17]
B
You would hate that neighbor forever if that guy made you take down your addition that you spent 200 grand building up.
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A
Because that's my thing. It's like, how was the judge? How can you tell a man your million dollars?
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B
Right, Right.
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A
That's what's crazy.
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B
And you got approved by the city and he can't appeal that.
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A
I don't know.
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C
He's in jail while it's being appealed and that's what his lawyer is like.
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A
He's no cuz. Here's the thing. He can get out of jail anytime he wants.
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B
All he has to do is tear down the edition.
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A
He has to tear down the edition.
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B
Yeah, but if he's appealing, why would he tear down the edition? And then if would he wins the appeal, he builds it back up again, then the guy appeals the appeal.
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C
It's also saying that demo is going to cost 800 grand.
- [110:54]
B
Oh my God. Oh my God. For this neighbor.
- [110:59]
A
Yeah. You talk about being.
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B
What is the specifics though?
- [111:02]
A
Am I wrong?
- [111:03]
B
I mean, maybe the neighbor's right.
- [111:04]
C
Like I'm looking to see how it went down.
- [111:07]
B
Yeah, Cuz, what did the. What. Why could the neighbor have any. How could that make sense?
- [111:13]
C
Yeah, it's starting off, said the lawyer for a Tampa Tampa couple who asked a judge to find their neighbor in contempt of court over a disputed guest house says there's More to the story than we first brought you about.
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B
Of course, there's always more to the story. What is he growing? It's not sharing. My old neighborhood, there was this guy built a house, and it was just kind of flat. Just a flat. It was kind of boring. It was like, just a. It was just, like, not creative. The guy was a builder, and he wasn't much of an architect, and I don't think he hired an architect. He just had his own idea to how to build a house. But he got permits and he did it. But I remember my neighbor complaining, and he's like, you believe this guy built this house? I'm like, what is the big deal? And he's like, you don't think that's an eyesore? I go, well, it's boring. It's a boring house. Like, what do you care? I just didn't understand it. But he wanted to, like, start complaining and get a bunch of people to file a complaint about this guy's house.
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C
Local news site.
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B
The location will allow the occupant of the guest house to peer into the backyard and pool area of the Babbitts home.
- [112:16]
A
Oh.
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B
Martin subsequently removed any windows facing the Babbitts property and installed bamboo along the property line to obstruct the view of the guest house. House.
- [112:25]
A
Yeah, they were. They were mad that he could. You could see into their house to
- [112:29]
B
their yard where their pool is.
- [112:30]
C
Yeah, that's how it started. That says that was the initial complaint, but there's 500 filings that they've had over five years.
- [112:36]
B
Oh, God.
- [112:38]
C
1924, original subdivision. Said it was public space or supposed to be public space or something like that.
- [112:44]
A
Yeah, 1924. They went and found a 1924 statute.
- [112:49]
C
They're saying that the company he hired that got the approval, did the. Did that illegally, and that's their claim. I guess it all has to do with the others.
- [112:59]
B
So Martin signed a contract with the demolition company. Needs to pay $392,372.50 to Dynamite Demolition. What a great name. I want to get a T shirt. Dynamite. Dynamite Demolition. To begin tearing down the structures. Judge Nash rejected them until last week, finding Martin in contempt and ordering a writ of bodily attachment, which orders all law enforcement to take Martin into custody and take him to jail. No one is above the law, McLaren said. So we don't just want the court's ruling to be complied with, and that's it. Boy.
- [113:34]
A
But somebody being able to see into your pool is. Wow. For you to really go through this
- [113:38]
B
much trouble, she said, oh. So. So this general contractor, Julie McGill, is one of the several outside contractors and developers I asked to evaluate the case. She says she can't remember a time when a judge told the city that it didn't follow its own code on neighborhood conformity.
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A
Wow. But see, Mr. Martin. Mr. Martin, you fucking up the game. You know what you got to do, man? You know what you got to do, Mr. Martin? Just comply, okay? Because you're not going to win like this. Do what they say. Pay the money, tear it down. I'm guessing you got the money. If you build in a million dollar guest house with a pickleball court and a pool just for your guests. You got the bread? Pay that bread. And then you take the money you save from not being caught up in all of these lawsuits, okay? And you spend it on revenge. You hire the most cold blooded fucking creative people you can think of, and you, you make this person's life miserable in all the legal ways possible, in all the ways where he knows it's you and he can't do shit about it. You hire a bunch of college students, you get them a prize for whoever finds any statute that can fuck this man's life up. That's what you do. Don't sit in jail. You can't not take any revenge that cost you something. It's. You have to. It's got to be pure delight, you know, it's got to be served cold. That's what they're saying is the revenge is best served cold. It's like you have to take care with the dish. You can't just react.
- [115:00]
B
It would be weird, though, if you always had a backyard where your pool didn't face anybody. And then all of a sudden a dude put a house right behind your pool. Put up a gazebo. No more.
- [115:10]
C
That's not exactly what it was. It says there was already. They put together some lots to make one bigger lot and there was already some. Something on that. And so when he bought it, they're like, we don't see any problem with fixing that, changing how it looked. And now they. That might be.
- [115:24]
A
But here's also the thing, though. Joe, he offered to block, like, put up a wall. Block the permitting.
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B
Have no windows.
- [115:32]
A
Yeah.
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B
Put up bamboo.
- [115:34]
A
And I feel like, like if is a good neighbor. That's reasonable. Yeah, that's a reasonable compromise. Go. Oh, I, you know, I didn't even think about the. I can see into your house. We'll just knock the windows out. That feels like instead of Being like, no, I want you to waste a million dollars right to me. That's when you became the bad guy. When he offered a reasonable compromise and you said no. Then you.
- [115:55]
B
You.
- [115:55]
A
Yeah, you. I'm telling you right now, they lucky it's not me with a million dollars because I'm Batman now. I'm Batman and you the joke Joker. And I'm spend my whole. I'm gonna live my life as though those. That's true. Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm tear it down. I'm gonna sell the house. I'm gonna use all the money from. All from selling this house. I'm gonna use all that money to make your life hard. You know what I'm saying?
- [116:16]
B
Yeah.
- [116:17]
A
I'm gonna pay people to break in your house. And that's illegal. And throw.
- [116:20]
B
Don't do that. That's illegal. You don't want to pay it. Don't do illegal things.
- [116:23]
A
Let a crackhead do it.
- [116:24]
B
But that's illegal still.
- [116:26]
A
Okay.
- [116:27]
B
Out too. Then you'll be in jail.
- [116:28]
A
Cut your Internet line. Wait till you call the repair shop.
- [116:31]
B
Illegal too.
- [116:32]
A
Have them throw dead mice in the back of your vents.
- [116:34]
B
You can't have it be illegal. It's got to be legal.
- [116:36]
A
Right? It can't be illegal.
- [116:37]
B
It must be legal.
- [116:37]
A
But I just can't think of anything legal right now.
- [116:39]
B
Well, you could sue people for all kinds of stupid and just make them go through legal problems.
- [116:44]
A
Don't sue. Yeah. Just have. Just have people outside with a tape measurer. They. If they. If they. A centimeter from the curb calling the cops straight. Neighbor wars.
- [116:54]
B
Neighbor wars are real, man. People kill each other over neighbor wars.
- [116:57]
A
Oh yeah, the hatfields and the McCoys, ain't you?
- [117:00]
B
Yeah, I think that was over some other.
- [117:03]
A
Is nothing worse. There's nothing worse than living besides somebody that. Like this. No, it's completely unreasonable. Completely unable to compromise.
- [117:12]
B
Nice neighbors are beautiful. Oh, man, you have good neighbors. It's great. I have nice neighbors. It's nice and I have nice. I had nice neighbors in California too.
- [117:19]
A
Because. Because here's the thing. It doesn't take much to be a good neighbor. You just. You have to be thoughtful. And in the. In the times that you're not thoughtful, when it's brought to your attention, you have to have the appropriate amount of shame.
- [117:32]
B
Well, here goes. It was over a stolen hog, illicit romance and long standing judges. Two neighboring families in the backwoods of Appalachia. So here's the thing about that though. I think this is from. Is this from Malcolm Gladwell's?
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A
Book.
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B
I forget whose book it's on on from, but there was a book where they explained that what had happened. I believe it's. Malcolm Gladwell was explaining that the reason why the people in Appalachia are so violent is because they come from herding populations in Europe. And so herders in Europe are very different than farmers because if herders, someone can come along and steal all your sheep and you're. You can't really steal all someone's corn. It takes forever, right? You gotta chop it down. You know what I mean? So these people were used to defending their animals with violence because people would come in and try to steal them. Yes. Malcolm Gladwell. Yeah. Outliers. That's the book. Chapter six, Hatfield McCoy feud is analyzed as a prime example of a culture of honor where similar to the findings in this Reddit thread, ancestral herding roots forced rapid brutal retaliation for insults to maintain reputation. This cultural legacy, not just poverty, drove generations of conflict. So culture of honor. Gladwell argues that families descending from Scottish and Irish herders brought a culture of honor to the Appalachian mountains. In these regions, law enforcement is weak and survival depends on establishing a reputation for strength and prompt, often violent retaliation against slights. Yeah, that makes sense.
- [119:07]
A
What was the name of the book though, though?
- [119:08]
B
Outliers. Great book. It's a really good book.
- [119:12]
A
Yeah, I have it. I haven't read it though.
- [119:13]
B
It's really good. It. It talks about like, why people are successful. The. One of the more interesting things is about the Beatles. And the Beatles talks about how they got this gig in Hamburg, Germany, where they were performing every day. Every day. They were doing multiple sets every day. And they did it for like a few years and they went back to Liverpool and everybody's like, what the happened with you guys? Like, how'd you get so good? And they got so good because they were just performing all the time. I think it was at a strip club. I think it was something crazy like that. Like they were performing music at a strip club, like something weird. And because of that they were just getting in reps. Like crazy reps. And I think that's the key to bike almost anything. Almost anything. And this is the argument in Outliers. It's like, you know, the 10,000 hours of mastery, like that argument.
- [120:07]
A
Yeah, but wasn't the 10,000 hours is. Is. It's not exactly what he said, right?
- [120:12]
B
No, it's a rough. Because there's other. Obviously people that are savants.
- [120:18]
A
No, I think he. He modified it because he talked about it's it's not about the amount of time as much as it's about the. The. The kind. The quality of practice.
- [120:30]
B
Right.
- [120:31]
A
So like, intentional directed practice, which is.
- [120:34]
B
Would be like performing on stage for the. All those. Where is. What were they doing in Hamburg, Germany, Jamie? Were they. Were they at. Were they at a. Was it a strip club, something like that?
- [120:46]
C
It said they played in clubs and strip bars.
- [120:49]
B
Yeah.
- [120:50]
C
So there's a lot of places, I guess.
- [120:51]
B
So they were just going off. They were just like, doing as many stuff. Sets as they can, which is the same with comedy. Everybody that we know, that really progressed rapidly. They did as many sets as possible. They're hopping all over the place. Like, guys in our club, like Ari, Maddie, for instance, that dude, he's. He'll go up at the Sunset. He'll go over here, go there, we'll go there. It doesn't show at the mothership. He's just in it, you know. He's in it.
- [121:14]
A
Yeah.
- [121:15]
B
You know, all day. And when you're doing that, you just get better, quicker.
- [121:19]
A
Just get better and better.
- [121:20]
B
And those dudes that we know that do a set of weak, you know, come in, drop in, do 15 minutes, that's it. You don't see them again for another week. They kind of, like, get stale, just stay flat.
- [121:30]
A
They get stagnant.
- [121:31]
B
They get stagnant. Yeah. Whereas the Beatles just got after it and then all of a sudden, love. Love May Day, they just got smooth, you know, which makes sense. That's the case with everything, though. With, like, everything you do. Like, you don't want a surgeon that does brain surgery once a year, you know, you want a guy who's, like, in it. Yeah, he's in it all day. He's fucking studying journals and practicing with robots.
- [121:55]
A
Yeah. I'm trying to be your third brain that day.
- [121:57]
B
That's right.
- [121:58]
A
Yeah.
- [121:58]
B
You don't want to be the fifth brain, though. It gets tired.
- [122:01]
A
No. Yo, you know, funny is I just saw something about. They did a. He did a study at a courthouse where. And they found that the. That judges. Whenever the judges had. But, like, how harsh of a sentence you received was directly related to how long it had been since the judge ate something.
- [122:25]
B
Oh, yeah, I've seen that before. Yeah, I've seen that.
- [122:28]
A
That's crazy as hell.
- [122:30]
B
Crazy like.
- [122:31]
A
And it's. It's. It. It. It is. It. It's. It's enough. It's statistically significant.
- [122:35]
B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Which makes sense.
- [122:37]
A
Cranky, yo, give me.
- [122:38]
B
Or if the judge getting no pussy. Maybe he's going through a divorce. You know, maybe his wife fucked her trainer.
- [122:43]
A
Oh, yeah. Damn it. Give me the. You give me the judge right after break breakfast.
- [122:48]
B
What if you come in and you're. You're a personal trainer too and you're dealing with some. The judge, like my wife just trainer. Some people get real petty like that. They don't give a. About. About like doing the right thing.
- [123:03]
A
Oh, hell no.
- [123:04]
B
No, they just wanna. They want to feel power people over you. Oh, all trainers.
- [123:11]
A
Well, you know, another thing I just found out about is I think, I think that the country is Angella, right? Jamie. They. They. So you know how. You know how like in America the websites are all dot com and in Russia it's like ru.
- [123:30]
C
Right?
- [123:32]
A
In Angella it's AI.
- [123:35]
C
Oh.
- [123:36]
A
Which didn't used to mean. But now, now it's worth some money. Now they're making so much money selling domains that it's like half of their money.
- [123:45]
B
Oh, wow.
- [123:47]
A
Yeah, it's completely changed the economy there.
- [123:49]
B
Oh, that's crazy because it seems like you're legit if you have like perplexity. AI, right?
- [123:55]
A
So anybody, anything AI, they got to pay these people. Oh, wow.
- [123:58]
B
Yeah, well, there's so many domains now.
- [124:01]
A
Yeah. Just from something. We didn't used to think anything because
- [124:03]
B
it used to be like you only had.comand.net.
- [124:08]
A
oh, yeah. You know, like, you never know what the. Like, bro, somebody just held up a. Somebody. Because I'm on one of. The. One of the subreddits I be on is called why would you touch that? Or what is this? And usually, usually the same posts are on both because people are like, what is this thing? And then also, why did. Why did you. Why are you touching it? So I just saw one recently, but somebody held up a thing and they were like, what is this? What is this? What does this of mean? And it was like. But it, but it was. It was from. So you know Tyler, the creator.
- [124:43]
B
Yes.
- [124:44]
A
So he. When he first came out, his group was called Our future. So this is way before OnlyFans.
- [124:50]
B
Okay.
- [124:51]
A
And so if you saw of, you know, before seven years ago, it meant. That's what it meant.
- [124:56]
B
Right.
- [124:56]
A
And so it was one of their like stickers or promo things or something like that. But. But this was a young kid, he found it in an attic or something. He didn't know what the fuck I. He was like, why is it. Because he knew how old it was. So he was like, it can't be. Only fans. What is this?
- [125:08]
B
Right?
- [125:09]
A
Yeah. And it's like changes all the time. These, they. They got this AI. They never thought. Nobody thought they would make any money off of it right now.
- [125:19]
B
Well, there was other. There's other ones like that too that are kind of interesting. There's a bunch of different ones. I'm trying to remember some of them, but some of them are like dot biz. Where'd that come from?
- [125:30]
A
I don't know who. What is that? Is that a. I don't know, but
- [125:33]
B
they have that like they have dot biz. Like some.
- [125:35]
A
I remember back when that used to mean something. Like we used to have like, you know, dot org. I think dot edu still a thing.
- [125:41]
B
Like, remember when people sell websites for a lot of money, so people would like buy a bunch of domains and hold on to them like business. I think business.com sold for a ton of money.
- [125:52]
A
Yeah. But now I think it's hard to do that now. Now.
- [125:54]
B
Yeah. What kind of business do you have that people are just looking up? Business.com. why is that even worth anything? You know what I mean? That's like eating.com is worth money.
- [126:02]
A
I don't know if you remember back when, when white. When whitehouse.com was a porn site. The actual site was. It's always been WhiteHouse.gov but that was back when people didn't know. So White House that. So people, whenever anyone was looking for the white house, they go, whitehouse.com they go to this porn site.
- [126:17]
B
Do you know what Red Band did?
- [126:19]
A
No.
- [126:19]
B
Do you know the Pepsi Spice thing?
- [126:21]
A
No. What is Pepsi Spice?
- [126:24]
B
One of Red Band's greatest trolls was he bought PepsiSpice.com. so Pepsi Spice was a type of Pepsi that came out. And so red band bought PepsiSpice.com and then he started documenting how he was drinking Pepsi Spice and he was having bloody diarrhea. That's all he was drinking. He was dying. He's getting cancer. It's like the fucking craziest thing. I mean, 14 years ago. So play full screen. So he's losing weight.
- [126:58]
C
Hi, this is Brian from PepsiSpice.com.
- [127:01]
B
a lot of people wouldn't believe me. So that's why I'm making this video. My pee has actually turned. Not yellow, not white, but it's got a fake accent. And I'm not making this up. That's why I'm filming using this Canon camera.
- [127:20]
C
S4 megapixel camera.
- [127:25]
B
So that's how old this is. Toilet. Now I'm going to p. I'm just going to. So he's like Pretending that his peas bloody. Oh, this guy, he's so silly. He just kept doing that. Like, it got worse and worse and worse. And eventually Pepsi Spice bought it from him.
- [127:49]
A
Though the hardest part to believe about that video is the 170 pounds.
- [127:52]
B
Oh, he was really skinny at one point in time.
- [127:54]
A
Wow.
- [127:54]
B
Yeah. Yeah. Brian at one point in time, got real heavy and then went on a crazy fitness kick. He got a. Like, a stair climber in his house, and he was. Was riding that every day, and he lost a ton of weight. And he had a photo of him, like, with his old jeans. This is a Pepsi Spice project.
- [128:15]
A
Peps is Spice Project.
- [128:18]
B
He's so silly. But this one man, he committed a lot of time to this. It was very funny. Like, I remember reading it and, like, dying laughing. I'm like, you're so ridiculous.
- [128:29]
A
Well, you know, if Red. If Red Band decides fuck you, he can really elevate to, like, a 50 cent level of pettiness. Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [128:39]
B
But this wasn't even fuck you. This is just him having fun.
- [128:42]
A
Did they come after him?
- [128:43]
B
I think eventually they did, but the thing was, like, they were too stupid to buy PepsiSpice.com when they had Pepsi Spice. You gotta buy that. Like, who the fuck you should fire? Somebody. Somebody in your organization slipping. Because he didn't know that Pepsi Spice was gonna be a thing till after you released it. It. So the fact that you knew that you were going to release Pepsi Spice and you didn't buy up PepsiSpice.com is kind of crazy.
- [129:06]
A
That is kind of crazy.
- [129:07]
B
Kind of. Kind of ridiculous.
- [129:09]
A
Yeah.
- [129:09]
B
That's just shitty planning. That's. Whoever works for. They deserve whatever he did.
- [129:16]
A
Yeah, I try to. When I try to get. Because all my social media stuff is BS and I try to get BS.com or it was obscomedian.com or something like that. And then if somebody already owned the it. It was like a. Like a Canadian improv group or something.
- [129:32]
B
Oh, interesting.
- [129:33]
A
And they. I was like, well, I'll buy from you. And the price they said was so crazy that I was like, what? How much? I want to say they asked for, like, $10,000 or something. And this was back when I. That was. That was like, I wouldn't pay that now, but back when. But back then, I didn't even have it right. But I was like, what? $10,000 is crazy for a website, y'? All? Because it wasn't like. Like, they were doing tons of business through this website.
- [129:58]
B
Were they using it at all? How much would you have paid for it back then. Yeah.
- [130:02]
A
I would have gave him a thousand bucks.
- [130:04]
B
A thousand? If they said two, no way.
- [130:07]
A
Maybe maybe 1500 with a best and final.
- [130:11]
B
I think today though, all anybody does is do a search of your name and then they find your website. Like if somebody wants to find your website, they just search and it's right there.
- [130:20]
A
Yeah, but part of me always wants everything to be the same and it ended up not being that way anyway because my TikTok is a different thing than everything else. Everything is BS comedian.
- [130:29]
B
Except that it's interesting that you have Tik Tok. Don't you worry about the terms of service, like all the access they have to your phone and access to computers around your network and all that?
- [130:38]
A
The Chinese, I mean, well now it's
- [130:41]
B
not the Chinese anymore.
- [130:43]
A
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's like, you know, for me, I've never Ellison, I've never Cuz the, the once, once Edward Snowden told us what was up. I'm like, they are. Who gives a. I care who's spying. I'm getting spied on no matter what I'm doing.
- [130:56]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [130:57]
A
What the Chinese gonna do to me? They're gonna be like, oh, he's basically,
- [131:00]
B
they have everything off again that you've ever done and they only use it if they catch you. So if they're looking for something like say if you run for congress and you do some insider trading, you do something shitty and they come after you, then they go, oh Brian. It's interesting because we have voicemail.
- [131:17]
A
Oh yeah.
- [131:18]
B
On someone's we were talking about.
- [131:20]
A
They got that though. They already got it.
- [131:22]
B
It. Well, I was that stuff. Somebody got arrested today from Fauci's administration. See, that's why they arrested the first guy who was involved in the COVID up of the lab leak theory. And he was using a Gmail account to avoid Freedom of Information act requests. So he was using Gmail instead.
- [131:46]
A
Allegedly.
- [131:47]
B
I don't know what the reality of all this is obviously, but I just ready to read about it today. Ex Fauci top advisor indicted over alleged Covid cover up hidden emails. David Morenz allegedly received gifts including wine and high end meals from a collaborator. Prosecutors say, oh, see this is why
- [132:07]
A
I don't believe in incognito mode.
- [132:09]
B
Yeah, it's all I'm like, yo, jerk
- [132:11]
A
off on your main and delete that out your history. Because all incognito mode is, is just you going, hey Google, this is the stuff. I don't Want nobody to know about. Just making it easier.
- [132:21]
B
And then they put it file. He served for years as a top advisor with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Indicted and is accused. Your phone's talking to you, dog.
- [132:39]
A
You can trust me.
- [132:40]
B
Yeah, Google's like, hey, I know. Incognito. Mood is legit. Incognito mode. So he was using his personal email account to evade federal transparency laws and shield key discussions from Freedom of Information act requests, according to the DOJ indictment unsealed. It was also apparently bragging about it allegedly alleged that Morens conspired with others during the pandemic to hide communications related to a controversial coronavirus research grant that involved collaboration with the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China. The grant was later terminated amid scrutiny or whether COVID 19 may have originated from a lab leak week. And amazing that did he did.
- [133:24]
A
How did they catch him though? Did he.
- [133:27]
B
Well, I mean, they can't get Fauci, right? This is the. The, the thing. Because they wanted to get Fauci. That's why the Biden administration gave him a pardon from 2014 on, which is really kind of wild. Federal prosecutors also claim that Marin's received gifts from a collaborator, including wine and offers of high end meal, and later took steps to justify these perks by contributing to a scientific publication supporting the theory that COVID 19 emerged naturally rather than from the Wuhan lab. So they bribed him to get him to do this. Allegedly. He's one of, I think, a bunch of people that are going to wind up going down. There's too many people that are pissed off. There's too many people. I mean, too much money got lost. Too many people wound up dying.
- [134:15]
A
Why you think. Why you think anybody's going to go to prison, though? They never go to prison.
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No, you don't know. This is a new thing. I mean, this kind of thing is a new thing. And there's enough people that want heads to roll. This is a weird thing. I mean, this is a weird thing where they shut the whole country down. If you find out that these people actually paid to have this virus engineered and they were lying about it and hiding it and covering it up.
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A
Oh, I see. That's not what I took from that.
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B
The virus came from the Wuhan Lab.
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A
Lab.
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B
Okay. These people were hiding the fact that they were funding the Wuhan lab. They were funding. Oh, they creation.
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He was part of a group that was funding them.
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And he was also allegedly being bribed with things to promote the idea that it Came from naturally, from natural spillover versus from a lab leak. Allegedly.
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A
Who's alleging?
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Whoever the prosecutors are. Whoever the. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what they know and what they don't know. But I do know that. That obviously there was a concerted effort to make it seem like this came naturally and not from the Wuhan lab. There was a giant effort, which is why on YouTube, if you had posted during like 2020 about a lab leak, if you said, I think it came from a lab, they would literally pull you off of YouTube. They would kick you off of Twitter back then, before Elon bought Twitter, they would kick you off Twitter if you were going on and on about it. This is a lab leak.
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A
I mean, we living in them times, man. A hypothetical could your world up. You can't even. You can't even chew on it. You can't even like, have a play devil's advocate.
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B
Well, you can now. You can now because of Twitter, because Elon bought it. But before then, when the government was essentially in control, I mean, the government was conspiring to control and. Can you talk about Elon? Yeah, people do. All day. All day? Yeah, all over Twitter. In his defense, I mean, I'm sure he blocks them, but I mean, he. You block somebody, but you could talk. People talk mad about him, bro.
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A
That be on Twitter way too much for how rich he is.
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B
Not only that, how busy he is. I don't understand it, boy.
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Busy tweeting. What's he doing?
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B
But he's. He's busy making rockets. And I mean, I don't understand it. I don't know how he has the time. I can't do it.
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But he ain't making the rackets. He got like slaves or whatever. I don't know what he. I'm sure he got like geniuses chained.
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He does, but he's in charge of a lot of it, man. I went to the rocket factory during the long. Jamie went too. We all went and walked, watched SpaceX launch. We went down to the. To the cult. What's the Gulf, right?
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Oh, yeah, they're the main guys, but you know, they just launched. They or. Or they're going to launch on SpaceX. They're going to launch the new telescope.
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Yes.
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The. Was it the Nancy Grace Roman. The Roman. The Roman telescopes. This is.
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These, These new telescopes are kind of crazy because the more they find out, the more they find out that like. Oh, we didn't know that.
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What's crazy about this one is how fast they built it. And, and, and this is the craziest part. It's under budget, so they built it faster than they said for less than what they said.
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And now what is the power of this one as opposed to like the James Webb?
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Apparently. So I was, I was listening to this, I was fascinated earlier. But, but they're saying. So they weren't comparing it to the James Webb, they're comparing it to the hull, to Hubble. Because the James Webb is, is more infrared. This is more like the Hubble. Like it's, but the, it, it takes a. Pictures at the same resolution as the Hubble but way, way bigger. So they become he, they, they were saying that there is not a, there's not a screen that exists that you could display the picture on.
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C
Yeah. It's a wide field instrument, whereas the James telescope is near infrared.
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B
Interesting. So what is this going to be able to detect? That the James Webb camp exoplanets is
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one of the big ones. Like, like way, way, way, way more
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than we can imagine. If they find exoplanets and you could see lights on them like.
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Well, I don't know if that's possible one day.
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B
Just imagine, imagine how.
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Oh yeah, I think about it all the time. Crazy.
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That would be. So.
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Yeah, so, so see how hu.
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Yeah, it compares more to the Hubble, I think than the James Webb and
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the type of telescope it is. Yeah.
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And just the amount of information that it can take in.
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B
They're finding shit from the James Webb that's freaking them out. They're finding things that make them question the age of the universe.
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Oh yeah. And this thing is going to, it's going to do like we, we. Because I don't know if you remember this, but the first time I was on this pod, I told, I told you about the James Webb wait like a year and a half before it came out.
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B
What were you telling me about?
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I was just telling you that it existed.
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Right.
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That it was going to change everything.
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Yeah.
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And it has. And, and this one is going to do the same thing.
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The formation of galaxies is freaking them out. They find, they find these galaxies that are formed way too quickly. So they're confused. And now they're starting to like, are we wrong about how long it takes to form a galaxy or are we wrong about the age of the universe?
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Yeah, I mean there's, there's a. We're wrong about everything. I mean we're wrong about a lot of. But you know, the thing about scientists Love being wrong.
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B
Yeah, they do. Well, especially these kind of scientists, they love new discoveries.
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A
Like. Oh, more.
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They're not very. Yeah, they're not dogmatic. Also, it's very difficult to argue when you get the data back from these things. I mean, it is what it is. We were talking about this recently that they found a black hole that's bigger than our galaxy.
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Oh, well, yeah. Yeah, that.
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B
What?
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Well, I think you were sending me that. I think you sent me that.
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Something or may not be bigger than our galaxy or it's commensurate with our galaxy. It's like, it's. There's one that they found that was bigger than our entire solar system.
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It was ton something.
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It's bigger than the solar system, but that's one.
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But there was the alpha. What was the other one that we looked at the other day
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and then
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we brought it up the other day. There's one that's even larger than that. Like, they keep finding these ones that are just impossibly big.
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Yeah, they. Because it would have to have been primordial. Right. Like, it would have to have formed.
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But this was the question. They, they said that it was so big, it didn't make sense that it had enough time to suck up enough stars to get that big. That was the problem.
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Right.
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They were like, there's not enough time from the birth of the universe for this thing to exist and be this big.
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Yeah. Because it would have had to have started at a time where the. Where matter wasn't close enough together to even form things.
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So it's so crazy.
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Yeah.
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Just the idea of a black hole bigger than all the way out to Pluto.
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Here's a black hole. Here's a real sad thing this. There's probably. There's a lot of things that we. That are just not knowable to us. Like, we just will never know.
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Right.
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And we. And that's. We just got to accept it. Like, like you hear. Every time you hear them talk about how we, you know, we're expanding, the. The universe is expanding so, so rapidly that eventually it's going to be. Because it's speeding up. So eventually it's going to be expanding close to the speed of light.
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Right.
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And so it's like at some point, if there's still people on Earth by then, at some point there's not going to be any stars. We're going to be. It's going to be expanding so, so rapidly that when you look up at the sky, you're not going to see anything. Like they're going to think. They're going to think that everything outside our galaxy doesn't exist. I mean they're going.
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They all died off.
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They're going to see stars, but they're not going to see. They're not going to know that there's other galaxies. Galaxies because the, the light. The light won't be reaching us. Wow. So it's like. So imagine the stuff that we, that, that we can't know now that we already. Beyond where we couldn't even know.
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B
I think it's called Phoenix. I think that was the same thing. It's the same thing.
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I'm looking at the. Everything about Ton 6118 says it's the biggest thing they've ever found.
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And how big is it exactly? 88.
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That's just lost the mass is the size of roughly 66 billion suns. I think is what that means. I don't know what that means, man.
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I don't understand.
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66 billion solar masses.
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B
That's so crazy.
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You can't even really. You can't even really imagine that.
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Do you know what they said that there are more planets in the, in the universe than there are seconds since the Big Bang.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's Phoenix is surrounding ton618.
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Oh that's what it is. Okay. So Phoenix A, the quasar. As a quasar, ton 618 is believed to be the active galactic nucleus at the center of a galaxy. The engine of which is a supermassive black hole feeding on intensely hot gas and matter in an accretion disk. What does that mean?
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That's the disk around the black hole that like when it eats something, that's where the light is coming from.
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When did they discover this?
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1950. Nature of this object was first noted in 57. 13 years later 1970 discovered and made
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you want to get it really get freaked out. Jamie, look up the Great Attractor.
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What is that?
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So this scaryish space is so. So there is something on the other side of us that we can't see. And everything is moving in that direction, including us. And we don't know what's pulling it. What?
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Hidden galaxies discovered in the Zone of avoidance. What does that mean? The Great Attractor Defeat dark energy. What now?
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Look up us.
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What is it? The Great Attractor is a region of gravitational attraction in intergalactic space. And the apparent central gravitational point of the Lanakia supercluster of galaxies that includes the Milky Way galaxy as well as about 100,000 other galaxies. The observed attraction suggests a localized concentration of mass having the order of 10 to the 16 solar masses. However, it's obscured by the Milky Way's galactic plane lying above the zone of avoidance, so that invisible light wavelengths, the great attractor is difficult to observe directly. Bro, there's no way you can know everything.
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It's a. In the attraction.
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There's too much information.
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So we know everything's being sucked towards it.
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What is that?
- [144:48]
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We don't know. And it's sucking all these galaxies, all these super galaxies, everything's moving towards it and we, we can't, we can't tell what it is.
- [144:54]
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Imagine if you're. It's your job to know what's going on in the universe. Hey, Brian, write me a paper on what's going on in the universe. Like everything. Everything? Yeah, I mean, it would never end. There's. With every new satellite that gets launched that can see into the space, every new telescope that gets utilized, like, we're fucked.
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Here's the other thing though, and I could be wrong about this. I mean I'm wrong about a lot of shit, but I think that it's actually physically impossible for you to know even a fraction of the things because any, any device that could store that amount of information would collapse into a black hole before you could get anywhere near storing enough so your brain couldn't even hold even, even a percentage of a percentage of a percentage of the information.
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B
That makes sense. We have pea brains.
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Yeah.
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B
There's no way we could have that information. The South Pole. What is this?
- [145:50]
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Flat Earthers are going to love this.
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B
Okay. South Pole wall, or the South Pole wall, is a massive cosmic structure formed by a giant wall of galaxies, A galaxy filament that extends across at least 1.37 billion light years of space. The nearest light, and consequently part of which is aged at about a half a billion light years. The structure in its astronomical angle is dense in five known places, including one very near the celestial south pole and is, according to the international team of astronomers that discovered the South Pole Wall, the largest contiguous feature in the local volume and comparable to the Sloan Great Wall wall at half the distance. Okay, you just like I just were
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blocked in by walls is all I was getting at.
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Maybe that's why they're confused. Maybe that's what they think the Antarctic wall is.
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A
Or maybe the rest of the galaxy knows that we're a problem and they got us locked in. You know, perhaps we got, we gotten out before and the.
- [146:51]
B
You the galaxy up maybe back in the Egyptian days. Maybe that's what they Were doing something, you see that you've seen that they found underneath the pyramids, right?
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A
Right.
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B
No, you haven't seen that?
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I don't think so. What you mean what?
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B
Oh, you don't know. Okay. Oh, you don't know. Oh, you don't know. He should sell T shirts. Oh, you don't know. They found these structures they use. God, what is it called? Radio tomography. Satellite radio tomography. And there it's this ground penetrating that they've found these structures underneath the pyramids that go like over a kilometer deep into the Earth. Like pillars, giant columns that are surrounded by coils that go down into the ground. And they've used this technology successfully to detect things that they know exists, like certain voids that are in pyramids and certain chambers and certain temples that they know exist underground. And they've accurately described these things, including. They use this radio tomography on they. There's a mountain in Italy that has a particle collider at the bottom of the mountain, over a kilometer into the mountain, they built this particle collider. And this thing, this, this information, this technology shows an accurate image of what this particle collider looks like. The exact dimensions shows it exact. And so they're using this underneath the pyramid. And this guy, Filippo Biondi is a Italian scientist that I had on the podcast Past Explain that They've used this underneath the pyramids and there's these undeniable structures that exist that go down into the ground, like very deep into the ground under. So the pyramids are just the top of this immense structure.
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When you said Italian scientists, I just keep thinking about him like taking a
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B
nap in the middle, eating pasta, drinking wine. Eventually we're figuring it out.
- [148:47]
A
So, so you're saying that there's. That there are machines down there or something.
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B
They don't know what it is, so they haven't really dug into the ground and investigated it fully yet. But they know that these sensors, these. This technology is detecting these structures. Show Jamie, show them what it looks like. So show them the 3D model. They made a 3D model of it.
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But shock that we, that we. That we can't get in there and
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just go, that's what they think it looks like. Okay, what. Imagine if that's accurate, if there really are columns underneath, underneath the. The pyramid.
- [149:19]
A
I mean, that just seems so impossible.
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B
And it seems impossible.
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A
And there's heat.
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No, I don't think it's heat. I don't think that's what it. There's a water table underneath there too. And they think it has something to do with the use of the pyramid in the first place. That it wasn't simply just a structure, that it had some sort of a use and that these columns were doing something and that it was probably some sort of a technology. Look how nuts that is. Megastructures underneath the pyramids. Could you go back to what that one said with the, the. Yeah, right there. Look at that. Alleged megastructures under Egypt's pyramids, sparking fascination and fierce skepticism worldwide. Will you lose something?
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No, I'll take it back.
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So if it's true, that's nuts.
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Yeah, I mean that, that sounds absolutely crazy to me, that I'm just thinking about the work that it would take to even do that.
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B
Right. And what kind of a society did
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that and for what purpose.
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B
And it's at least 4,500 years old. least. At least.
- [150:20]
A
Yeah. And so apparently the, the, those ancient pyramids were. Before we thought they, like I thought like the, like the modern Egyptians built those pyramids. No, they were.
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B
Ain't.
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A
The pyramids were ancient to them.
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Well, that seems to be the case with a lot. That's the, the labyrinth that's underneath. That's outside of the pyramids. This is another insane structure that they found that Herodotus documented way back in, you know, thousands of years ago. But this is all. Ben Van Kirkwick from his Uncharted X YouTube channel sort of described all this and explained it. And they've used scans, ground penetrating radar to show that there's this immense structure that Herodotus described as being greater than Giza itself. Itself that's underneath the ground. Inside the labyrinth, there's a 40 meter long metallic object that's shaped like a Tic Tac. So whatever the that is, who knows. But I think there's a lot of. From that part of the world that's going to show us that civilization at one point in time had reached a very high level, like probably even higher than we are today. And then it was wiped out. And then we're the rebuild.
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A
Well, they didn't cure syphilis. Actually, you know, there's a new syphilis
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B
I heard from Michigan or some.
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A
Right? From. No, from Washington.
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B
Probably from Michigan.
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A
No, no, it was in Washington.
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B
Washington.
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D
Yeah.
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The dude. The dude.
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B
A new kind of syphilis.
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A
It's not a. The dude had two. He had two syphilises.
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B
Two different.
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A
He had two ones.
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B
What a dirty pig he must have been.
- [151:59]
A
And they, and they, they like the same way that Covid was going through, like, genetic recombination. So, like.
- [152:05]
B
Huh.
- [152:05]
A
They were exchanging traits inside his body.
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B
Oh, boy. And creating a super syphilis. Yeah.
- [152:11]
A
And then. And then. And then. And then what happened is a bunch of old ladies kept going to the ER and they all kept describing the same man. And they spread it.
- [152:21]
B
He was a super spreader.
- [152:21]
A
He was spreading it. Yeah. And. And he went to the ER Cause. Because apparently, like, this whatever strain he has, it just causes you to go blind super quickly. And all these. All these things. And there's debate about whether he knew he was purposely spreading it and didn't give a. Because they told him. Yeah, you got to come back.
- [152:40]
B
He just kept fucking.
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A
He just kept fucking and didn't go back. And then he went. He didn't go back until he had another emergency and he went to a different emergency room.
- [152:49]
B
How many times in human history has that been the cause of a plague leg? Some guy.
- [152:52]
A
Somebody wouldn't stop.
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B
It was not. And just won't tell anybody.
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A
I mean, how you gonna be mad? You can't be mad at.
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C
It's five cases of rare ocular syphilis,
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B
which can cause vision impairment or blindness. Identified in southwest Michigan, Michigan, between March and July 2022. All linked to a single heterosexual male partner. Wow. All five women age 40 to 60. He wasn't picked up. He reported having sexual contact with the same man. This guy was a freak.
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A
Yeah, bro. He was out here.
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B
People blind.
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Because here's what's crazy. Imagine leaving the emergency room because. Because the first time he was emergency room, they thought he had herpes.
- [153:34]
B
Wow.
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A
And they gave him something for that, and he left. But imagine coming from the emergency room from an STD scare and going right back to.
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B
And going blind. All patients were hospitalized and successfully treated with intravenous penicillin. No further cases were linked to this man after this treatment. Treatment. All right, Brian, let's wrap this up with super syphilis. Anything going on? When. When is you. You're gonna put your special.
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A
Do that later? Yeah.
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B
When are you gonna put that out?
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A
I think it's gonna be summertime. July.
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B
Okay.
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A
I'm gonna take. Put my Special up on YouTube.
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B
Come back in July.
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A
Yeah, we'll do that.
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B
I'll see you tonight.
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A
All right. Yeah. Brian SimpsonComedy.com Brian SimpsonComedy.com Goodbye, everybody. Sam,