Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Joe Rogan Experience – Fight Companion (February 8, 2025)

Host and Guests

• Joe Rogan: Host
• Brendan Schaub: Guest, former MMA fighter and comedian
• Matt Serra: Guest, former UFC fighter and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt
• Duncan: Guest, MMA enthusiast and commentator

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1. Current MMA Landscape and Fighter Analysis

Discussion Points:

• Dominant Fighters: The panel discusses the impressive performances of fighters like Teona Suarez, Drew Dober, and Merab Dvalishvili.
• Age and Performance: Insights into how age affects fighters, particularly in lighter weight classes.
• Emerging Talent: Highlighting up-and-coming fighters such as Jake Matthews and the challenges they face in establishing themselves.

Notable Quotes:

• Duncan on Teona Suarez: "She's not easy to get down. She's a savage."
  • Timestamp: [02:08]
• Matt Serra on Younger Fighters: "Lighter weight class, female, like, older. They turn into gremlins."

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2. Technical Breakdown of Recent Fights

Discussion Points:

• Striking vs. Grappling: Analyzing the balance between striking accuracy and grappling prowess in fighters like Alexandr Pereira and Sean Strickland.
• Leg Kicks Impact: Emphasis on the effectiveness of leg kicks in debilitating opponents over the course of a fight.
• Fight Strategies: Strategies employed by fighters to dominate rounds, including maintaining distance and controlling the pace.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Rogan on Leg Kicks: "He keeps getting better. Like, he's a sweet. Just an animal."
  • Timestamp: [07:10]
• Brendan Schaub on Strickland's Defense: "He's got the best striking defense ever."

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3. Injuries and Their Influence on Fighters’ Careers

Discussion Points:

• Impact of Injuries: How injuries like broken noses and knee issues affect fighters' performance and longevity in the sport.
• Recovery and Rehabilitation: The role of stem cells and peptides in the recovery process, discussed by Joe Rogan and Duncan.
• Fighter Resilience: Stories of fighters overcoming significant injuries to return to the octagon stronger.

Notable Quotes:

• Matt Serra on Injury Recovery: "He looks great now. It's been a long road for that guy to recover from."
  • Timestamp: [08:21]
• Joe Rogan on Stem Cells: "We can get you here, we can get you in here. And if that works, you know, you don't need anything else."

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4. MMA Scoring and Judging Controversies

Discussion Points:

• Scoring Systems: Critique of the 10-point must system in MMA and suggestions for improvement.
• Judge Bias and Accuracy: Concerns over the limited number of judges and potential biases affecting fight outcomes.
• Case Studies: Examination of controversial decisions in recent fights and their implications on fighters’ careers.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Rogan on Judging: "MMA has too many factors to just have a 10-point system. Doesn't make any sense."
  • Timestamp: [64:00]
• Matt Serra on Judge Competence: "What the. He's getting a lot of them in this position."

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5. Future of MMA and Prominent Upcoming Fights

Discussion Points:

• Upcoming Matches: Anticipation of high-profile fights involving champions and rising stars across various weight classes.
• Promotion Dynamics: How promotions like UFC, Bellator, and PFL shape the fight cards and influence fighters’ opportunities.
• Global Influence: The increasing international presence in MMA, highlighting fighters from diverse backgrounds and regions.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Rogan on Future Fights: "Daniel's gonna have to fight a big guy, bro. That's a problem."
  • Timestamp: [180:17]
• Brendan Schaub on Promotional Strategies: "They're recruiting a lot of talent from different regions to make the cards more exciting."

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6. Personal Anecdotes and Off-Topic Conversations

Discussion Points:

• Training Regimens: Sharing of personal training experiences, including the use of virtual reality in workouts.
• Entertainment and Media: Brief discussions on popular culture, including movies like "Nosferatu" and superhero media.
• Lifestyle Choices: Conversations around diet, supplements like Ozempic, and maintaining physical health.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Rogan on Virtual Reality Training: "That was a good teaching moment but not tactical for the fight."
  • Timestamp: [116:10]
• Brendan Schaub on Supplements: "They use it for addiction."
  • Timestamp: [30:00]

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Conclusion

The "Fight Companion" episode features an in-depth discussion on the current state of MMA, providing technical analysis of fights, examining the impact of injuries, critiquing the scoring system, and anticipating future matchups. The guests bring a wealth of experience and personal insights, making the conversation both informative and engaging for MMA enthusiasts.

Final Notable Quote:

• Joe Rogan on Fighter Resilience: "Nothing better for me than just chilling at home watching the fights. I feel so relaxed."
  • Timestamp: [17:43]

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Note: This summary focuses on the substantive content related to MMA and fight analysis, omitting casual banter and off-topic segments to provide a concise and informative overview.

Transcript

[Joe Rogan]

I am. We're up. It's buffering.

[Brendan Schaub]

Wow.

[Joe Rogan]

That's it. We're live.

[Matt Serra]

You got your cans?

[Joe Rogan]

We're live. Put your cans on. And we're all professionals. We're all professionals.

[Duncan]

Is everybody drinking?

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. We have Buffalo Trace here. We have whatever you want. We have vodka. We have all kinds of. What do you like? What do you like?

[Duncan]

Vodka club with a splash of crayon. Nah, it's not us. You don't got to worry about doing that.

[Joe Rogan]

You can't hear it.

[Duncan]

You don't hear them.

[Joe Rogan]

Hear it now.

[Brendan Schaub]

Poor me.

[Joe Rogan]

You don't hear anything. Jamie will check it out. It might be a wireless loose.

[Duncan]

I thought he was running for the drinks, too. No, he does not. Does he play bartender, too?

[Joe Rogan]

Jamie, I'll bring over bottles. We got some stuff you can mix it with, I think, but I don't know.

[Matt Serra]

Mix.

[Joe Rogan]

Do you need mixes? Do you need mix?

[Duncan]

I don't need a mix. Nothing. I was just gonna do a. A vodka with a club. I don't need no cranberry.

[Joe Rogan]

You have club soda? Yeah, I don't know if we have club.

[Duncan]

Am I being a. A fancy pants?

[Joe Rogan]

A little bit.

[Matt Serra]

I'm the only one that doesn't drink.

[Joe Rogan]

Whiskey with a ice ball. You're not drinking at all.

[Brendan Schaub]

I mean, I'll drink a little something.

[Duncan]

I'm not a big drinker, but one in Austin. Give me some of that. Give me some of that.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, come on.

[Joe Rogan]

That's what I'm saying. Give me a little bit.

[Duncan]

Let's go.

[Joe Rogan]

All right, Brendan, Ch. Stay on that wagon, sir.

[Matt Serra]

Have to, guys. Otherwise I turn into a gremlin.

[Joe Rogan]

Salute. Come on.

[Duncan]

Come here.

[Joe Rogan]

Fight companion.

[Brendan Schaub]

No middle ground for Brennan. It's either all or nothing.

[Duncan]

And by the way, I smell and new with Teona Suarez, if you ask.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Serra]

All day.

[Duncan]

I saw her just. I was just watching some of the fights, and I saw her just take down Jessica Andrade and smoke her.

[Joe Rogan]

Jes. She was like nobody.

[Duncan]

And she was. And. And she's not easy to get down. She's a.

[Matt Serra]

She was Gatorade High school wrestler of the year when she came out, and then she won the Ultimate Fighter. She was a savage. And she got hurt.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, she had a couple of injuries that, like, derailed her career for a little bit.

[Matt Serra]

She was on the Olympic team, but then got cancer. She defeated. Cancer?

[Brendan Schaub]

What kind of cancer?

[Duncan]

She pee cancer.

[Brendan Schaub]

Jesus.

[Matt Serra]

She's a savage, though. So good we labeled her the Khabib of the women's division.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, here we go. We got Something to mix it up with. Oh, Lacroix. There we go. There you go. Oh.

[Duncan]

All right. That's okay. I'm easy. Thank you, man. I appreciate it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that's a good fight. She's such a monster, man. She's so hard to bet against, but that lady is such an animal.

[Duncan]

When's the last time she fought a. A real wrestler?

[Joe Rogan]

She has not. She's never fought anybody like. Like her. Not even close.

[Matt Serra]

Neither of them have fought anybody of the caliber that they are. That's why it's a great fight. They're also both older, I think. Tatiana is 31. And then a homegirl. Whaling is what, 34?

[Joe Rogan]

Isn't that crazy to say? Because Alex Pereira is 37.

[Matt Serra]

Different.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Is it weird? That's weird though, right? You like older 31. You start going, is that interesting?

[Matt Serra]

Especially lighter weight class. Lighter weight class, lighter weight class, female, like, older. They turn into gremlins.

[Joe Rogan]

How about Pantosia? He might. He might be the best guy pound for pound alive. He might be right up there with Tapuria and Islam and Jon Jones and everybody else who's in the conversation.

[Matt Serra]

But he's small, so no one cares.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but God damn, man, he was so good against that Japanese cat. Like, my God.

[Duncan]

And that Japanese cat didn't have that first time jitters.

[Joe Rogan]

No.

[Duncan]

He came out there like, champion.

[Joe Rogan]

Hellish striker.

[Duncan]

1.

[Matt Serra]

Rising.

[Joe Rogan]

Rising. Dangerous striker. Dangerous striker.

[Matt Serra]

But think about. They had to sign a homeboy from rising to compete with him. Like, there. There's not much for him.

[Joe Rogan]

Pantos is an animal, and he keeps getting better. Like, he looked better in that fight than ever before. His timing and everything was pristine.

[Brendan Schaub]

How old is he?

[Joe Rogan]

34, maybe. How old is Panto, dude?

[Matt Serra]

Remember, he won the belt was like, do you see me now, Dad? Y. Who?

[Brendan Schaub]

Whatever it takes.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a sweet. One of my absolute favorite guys to watch. Fight.

[Matt Serra]

Monster.

[Joe Rogan]

Just an animal. Just a dog.

[Duncan]

Just a full, beautiful Jiu jitsu. Beautiful crisp striking.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, his striking was super impressive against that Japanese cat. Because I was like, man, the timing is so good. There was no place where that guy was safe. You know, he was driving.

[Duncan]

I think he was doing Uber eats.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

When he was fighting. He's a sweet guy. Really sweet guy.

[Joe Rogan]

Crazy, you know, but the.

[Matt Serra]

The narrative on that, too, like, the media is like, you know, he's a UFC fighter and he's driving for Uber. E. Like, he also fought once in three years. Like, that's on you, dog. Yeah, that's on you.

[Joe Rogan]

It's. There's a Lot of things going on. But it's also weird that 125, it's real hard to sell. 135, no problem, cuz. 125, you got sugar Sean, you got.

[Matt Serra]

Marab, you got some stars with personality. But. But125, every dude sitting on the couch is like, they're tiny. I can beat them up and they have no clue.

[Joe Rogan]

They not think that about the 135s. How is it £10? Like, ah, okay. Isn't that weird?

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, maybe. Because you've got some very exciting personalities at 35.

[Joe Rogan]

What about mighty Mouse? Mighty Mouse was amazing when he was a champion. Amazing. He was doing wizardry, one of the.

[Brendan Schaub]

Best ever doing wizard wizardry.

[Matt Serra]

But he wasn't controversial like he was Mighty Mouse, like the nicest guy ever, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

That Ray Borg fight, dude, I was about to suplexed him and caught him. 34. Yeah, he's 34. Animal.

[Matt Serra]

34 at 125.

[Joe Rogan]

Amazing.

[Matt Serra]

56.

[Joe Rogan]

There's talk about him going to 35 versus Marab would be bananas. Yeah, bananas.

[Brendan Schaub]

I'm never betting against Morab again.

[Duncan]

How great was that?

[Joe Rogan]

Ever.

[Duncan]

How great was that? Umar fan?

[Joe Rogan]

Amazing.

[Duncan]

Did you really?

[Matt Serra]

You're a piece of.

[Duncan]

Why would you think.

[Matt Serra]

I'll tell you right now. Anyone from Dagestan or that area.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's so good at striking. His wrestling.

[Matt Serra]

Drives me nuts.

[Joe Rogan]

They're both from the Caucus Mountain.

[Duncan]

They are, yeah.

[Matt Serra]

But one guy trains in Jersey. Like, what are we doing?

[Joe Rogan]

And also Marab, he's living in Vegas now.

[Matt Serra]

But Marab has the, you know, close.

[Brendan Schaub]

I. I get him so riled up from Dag. I got. That guy's going to crush him, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

Marab is a machine.

[Matt Serra]

The biggest weapon in all of combat sports and all of sports, period. His. His cardio is the most lethal thing on the planet.

[Joe Rogan]

Cardio. And his wrestling.

[Brendan Schaub]

And he took a gold medalist, you know, striking.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

I mean, you got to see though, like you look on paper and people were making a. They were saying, oh man. Well, he's got the wrestling to counter him and he's got the better hands. Marab his whole career for guys with a good wrestling base and good strike, you know, he's used to that. Who the. Who are you going to get to simulate Marab? He never fought anybody like Marab. And when this was. I wasn't. We weren't surprised at all. It was pretty awesome.

[Brendan Schaub]

What about. What about against Cejudo? A gold medalist who's seen it all.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that was amazing. But the thing, Thing about Umar is. Umar striking is. Is really elite. It's elite and deceptive. He does a bunch of stuff that no one does. Like, one of the things he does is his crazy front kick to the.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And he throws a right leg roundhouse kick and a left leg roundhouse kick to the face. Both of them with, like, equal dexterity. Both off the lead leg. Like, he whips that lead leg over your shoulder and smacks guys in the face. And his timing, but it works for.

[Duncan]

Keep the pace timing.

[Matt Serra]

No one can.

[Joe Rogan]

Nobody can. Never.

[Matt Serra]

No one ever will.

[Duncan]

He's a master of range. Merab. They think that, oh, he doesn't have reach. He's the master of closing that distance. He throws that overhand into the single leg, to the double leg to. You don't know whether he's shooting or striking the whole time. What I love about it is after that first round, oh, man. Marab dropped that round. Second round, he's not getting stressed. You see him back taking. Smiling dude. He's there all night, and he could afford another 25 minutes.

[Joe Rogan]

I believe it.

[Duncan]

I never seen anything like it. I've seen a lot.

[Matt Serra]

I don't think we will either.

[Joe Rogan]

Was he always like that?

[Duncan]

He was always like that with the cardio, but he didn't have the tools to get out of certain positions.

[Joe Rogan]

Juicy. Did you see what D.C. said? No. On his Instagram. D.C. went to visit him the day after the fight, and he's running. So he beats Sugar Sean wins the world title. DC goes to visit him at his house. He's not home. He's running. DC's wandering around his house. He doesn't even know he's there. Like, he just lets him. He just walks into his house and he's like, filming Merab's gems. Like, whose gym you think this is? Like, it's got a picture.

[Matt Serra]

It's the best weapon in ufc.

[Duncan]

He loves it, man. He loves.

[Matt Serra]

He's nothing you do.

[Joe Rogan]

He's incredible. His. But that's all. That's two things, right? That's some kind of genetic gift. And on top of that insane hard work, it's like, both, because the guy's a tank. Like, he reminds me of Kate.

[Matt Serra]

Remember Kane had that weird cardio? Oh, you're like, what the.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

Put his head in your chest.

[Matt Serra]

They said he took two months off. In his heyday, he took two months off, came in the gym, and DC was like, we're gonna beat the. I can. He has been in two months. And he goes. He went Shark tank rounds and beat the. Out of everybody, his cardio.

[Brendan Schaub]

Told me that Kane was the guy who would turn your head around. He. He would just get in there. He said at one point he was. He. What he was doing to Luke, to Daniel, to all those guys was like a different thing. It was a nightmare. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What changed with Kane was he blew his knee out when he was getting ready for the. No, no, no, no. Who lost to jds. Jds Junior Dos Santos. Sorry, Junior. Yeah, I just had a brain fart. Junior Dos Santos knocked him out on Fox and his knee was up going into that fight. And that was the big fight for Fox was like one of our first big events.

[Matt Serra]

Huge event.

[Joe Rogan]

Huge event. And he really shouldn't have been fighting. He should have. He should have got out of the fight. His knee was up. So Junior knocks him out and then he beats the. Out of Junior in the rematch. And he beats a out of Junior in the rematch after that, the third fight, he beats him like in a way that takes years off your life.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah. It changes his DNA forever.

[Joe Rogan]

He's at that pace. He just. You see these guys just. They can't breathe. They're just wilting from.

[Matt Serra]

Especially at heavyweight.

[Joe Rogan]

I love that.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God.

[Brendan Schaub]

A lot of it had to do with his. He was very good at boxing. He picked up on boxing so quickly.

[Joe Rogan]

And it was all smooth technique. There wasn't no big wind ups where his chin was exposed. It was all very smooth. The Nogara Kobe. Oh, my goodness. That. It was like lightning.

[Matt Serra]

I think prime is the best heavyweight ever.

[Joe Rogan]

It's hard to say because of Fedor. Because if you could get juicy Fedor.

[Matt Serra]

From Pride, I think Kane beats the.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know, man. I don't know if anybody beats.

[Duncan]

Fader is so accurate with his strikes.

[Joe Rogan]

So good. Dude. Fedor walked down Crocop when CRO Cop was in his prime. You gotta remember that most of that fight was standing up and Fedor was going blow to blow with CRO Cop and walking him down. He was very unusual. He that random in KO or the random armbar. Random man. Suplexes him on his head.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And five seconds later, he's got him in a Kimura. It's crazy. He was different. He was a way. He beat up Nogueira, dude. Oh, my God. Watch that fight.

[Matt Serra]

I'd like to see some testing around those times.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. But even in the UFC back then. Even on the UFC back then.

[Matt Serra]

It'd be tough.

[Joe Rogan]

Came with that Sylvia when he was Rico Rodriguez, when he beat the out of Rico Rodriguez looks like a bodybuilder. Scary.

[Matt Serra]

Kane. Kane has Brian Kel's chest. That dude's not on.

[Joe Rogan]

Thick.

[Brendan Schaub]

Cpa.

[Joe Rogan]

He had them jeans. He had them.

[Matt Serra]

Mayan warriors doesn't have an incline machine, like brown.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he has some Aztec warrior jeans. Like, whatever Kane had is like, superior genetics. The card, his cardio was giant nuts.

[Duncan]

You hear the way DC talks about him and they're sparring and stuff, so, you know, I don't think he's just throwing the prison.

[Joe Rogan]

No. D.C. would clearly say the only reason why I'm heavyweight champ is Kane's not fighting.

[Matt Serra]

Dude, I'll never forget when Kane was fighting, I was on the same card. I fought Gonzaga. Yeah, he. That was the fight. He fought Lesnar. And when we're doing. We're doing the pre shoot stuff, he took his shirt off, and I'm, like, waiting to go. And he has that brown pride. I looked at the guy doing the video stuff, I go, hey, if I put white pride, is that cool? And he goes, dude, just shut the up.

[Duncan]

That wouldn't go over too big.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. You're allowed to have a different. You're proud. Well, because the Mexicans didn't really subjugate the white people in recent memory.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's a little different.

[Joe Rogan]

Is a little different.

[Brendan Schaub]

Let me pull up my history book. Let me pull up.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a big difference.

[Brendan Schaub]

What's with this?

[Joe Rogan]

Did you guys see Cat Williams in Phoenix?

[Brendan Schaub]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

Did you see that? Oh, my God. Not only did he lit up that dude, he had the whole crowd chant in America.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

He's like, this ain't Mexico. This is Phoenix. It was incredible. Oh, yeah, the heckler in Phoenix.

[Matt Serra]

And something about Mexico. Skins and cat.

[Brendan Schaub]

Just saw Cat Williams at the Comedy Store one time. He was so good. He was like, I've been doing this for 30 years. He was like. And he was. He was playing with the band and stuff like that. He's. He's one of the great.

[Matt Serra]

Did you see him on Theo's podcast?

[Joe Rogan]

No, because he's kind of does a.

[Matt Serra]

Character, you know, and, you know, he's doing his thing. But Theo's so funny. He breaks like three times. He just can't.

[Duncan]

He just can't.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, really?

[Matt Serra]

Because Theo's talking about black ducks.

[Joe Rogan]

He goes, you need to get you.

[Matt Serra]

Some black ducks, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

He's the best.

[Matt Serra]

He broke Cat, like, four times.

[Brendan Schaub]

Really?

[Joe Rogan]

How about when he was talking to the president? He was saying, man, that cocaine will turn you into a damn owl. Have you seen reports?

[Matt Serra]

Turn you a damn Owl Trump saw.

[Joe Rogan]

Trump's like, what the president? About cocaine? But that is, like, really probably what Trump needed. He needed those kind of interviews.

[Duncan]

Which. Which comedians was he on when he said, your friends aren't funny?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know.

[Duncan]

Not to make it awkward.

[Joe Rogan]

Listen, he said, why do that? He said that because he thought, for some crazy reason, that I didn't want to have him on, like, somehow or another, that I. He would be showing up people or something. Like, because he's so good. Maybe he thought that because he's isolated. That's not even. He doesn't know me that well. The first time I met him was in the studio.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I love Cat Williams. I've always been a fan. I've always talked about Pimp Chronicles is fantastic. It's so good. He's so wild. And I've actually taken advice from him. There's two pieces of advice that I took from an interview that he did once that I use to this day. One, he said, I never eat before a show. He said, don't eat because I want to be hungry. Better off being hungry. My brain works better. And then two, he said, I have a music playlist that I make that just gets me in the mood to do a show. And so I'm like, that's a good idea. And from then on, I started carrying around, like, a Bluetooth machine, like a Bluetooth boombox, and bringing. And then the Green room playlist that we have on Spotify. That's all the songs, but it's not hours.

[Matt Serra]

It's smart. Yeah. I should do it. That's what athletes.

[Joe Rogan]

It was a smart thing. I was thinking. I was like, why don't I do that? Like, that makes sense. Like, you want to turn it into a little bit of a party. Yes. You get that music going, it feels good. Like we do with the Green room at the Mothership. Yeah. Get that music going. Everybody's having fun.

[Duncan]

I want to give you a compliment, Longo, who doesn't give compliments? I don't know where the he saw you, but he said, I was dying the whole time.

[Joe Rogan]

The whole time dying.

[Brendan Schaub]

That was a good.

[Duncan]

You killed him.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah. Yeah, you. This guy's a stress factory.

[Joe Rogan]

Jake Matthews. I'm very high on this kid. I like him. Very, very high on this kid. Oh, he's elite. Yeah.

[Duncan]

Main card.

[Joe Rogan]

I think Jimmy Crute's fight got canceled. Is that correct?

[Brendan Schaub]

Yes.

[Matt Serra]

Jake Matthews is always exciting.

[Joe Rogan]

Always. He's super good. He's like one of those guys that look like he could break through Any moment now.

[Matt Serra]

But he's a little reckless. So he'll win like three and then lose one, and then.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he's fighting really good guys, the ufc.

[Duncan]

I smell him by submission. That's what I smell.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you smell?

[Duncan]

Listen, this guy, Prada, he's real good. Yeah, he's got good striking.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

Jake Matthews, very well rounded.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, very well rounded, but sharp striking. Jake's striking is just.

[Duncan]

Chris, I think to be intelligent in this fight, I think he should get his ass down.

[Matt Serra]

Is she about to sing national anthem?

[Joe Rogan]

Heidi Andrew on the spotlight. She's been with the UFC for a long time. I don't even think I met him. There's Jimmy Crude. He's getting ready. Oh, he's back.

[Duncan]

Wait, what is happening?

[Joe Rogan]

Wait a minute. So is the fight not canceled? I don't. I was looking to see if it.

[Matt Serra]

Was 111 minutes ago.

[Joe Rogan]

135, February 6th, a couple days ago.

[Matt Serra]

No, but up top it says the brutes back. That's 11 minutes ago.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, okay. So he's not off the card. Just google Jimmy Crude off UFC card. I. I read that three different fights were off the card.

[Matt Serra]

I don't know, man.

[Joe Rogan]

And Crute was one of them.

[Duncan]

I like that mullet.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, okay. He's in there. I like that dude. That mullet, he's. He's very good. Very good ground game.

[Duncan]

He's got a Kimura.

[Brendan Schaub]

What weights he fighting at?

[Joe Rogan]

Isn't crude a middleweight?

[Duncan]

He looks 185, I believe.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I think he's a middleweight. Light heavyweight. Oh, he's fighting lighthead. I think he did. I do believe he did. Is this a last minute replacement fight, Jamie, this Jimmy Crute Bellotto or is that the original? No, that's the guy he had. Right. It's interesting that he decided to do that. And he's an underdog and I don't know, I'm not familiar with.

[Matt Serra]

Here's the thing. People hate on the card because not big names, but if you notice the way the fight those card structured, which is why I don't hate on it is they're all going to be for the most part finishes. They're supposed to be.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, on paper, both of these never.

[Matt Serra]

Know but they're super exciting fights.

[Joe Rogan]

Prado and Jake Matthews is a very good fight to kick it off with. I'm, I'm real excited about this. They're both very good fun card. Yeah. It's just not one of them cards that like jumps out.

[Matt Serra]

If you're casual, you're like Where's Connor?

[Joe Rogan]

Here's the thing. We're so spoiled because in most sports, like, in most combat sports, it's all about the main event.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, yeah, those. And they either go away or they. You don't get.

[Joe Rogan]

Most people are barely watching the prelims.

[Matt Serra]

In boxing also, UFC has to fill a lot of cards, you know, so you can't have them stacked like this.

[Duncan]

I get upset on a Saturday when there's no ufc.

[Joe Rogan]

I do, too.

[Duncan]

I don't know what to do.

[Joe Rogan]

You don't know what to do?

[Duncan]

Yeah, I. It's just. It just makes my day complete.

[Joe Rogan]

There is nothing better than me then. Nothing better for me than just chilling at home watching the fights. I feel so relaxed. I don't have to work and I can watch them.

[Matt Serra]

Best thing on earth.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, yeah. You watch the screen. You don't watch the actual.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, I watch the fight when I can.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But the problem is there's some positions where. Especially when they're on the ground, like, I don't know if someone's trapped. I don't know how they have it.

[Brendan Schaub]

You can see it better.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. All I see is a back and a dude, and I'm confused as to what's going on. You know, I need to see the monitor sometimes pillars in the way. I need to see the monitor with replays all the time. We don't know if a guy got hit or if it's a headbutt. Like sometimes. I remember Matt Sarah when he fought Matt Hughes, and I thought Matt Serra dropped him.

[Duncan]

And I did drop him. Let's talk about that.

[Matt Serra]

Can we talk about that?

[Duncan]

I wanted. Every time I hear him say it, oh, it was a head, but my head hit him. I had connected. He.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at that head take out a building. That head hit sour seven.

[Duncan]

My hand.

[Joe Rogan]

I said that head hit tower seven. This thing could go through a wall.

[Duncan]

When my head touched his chin, my hand went.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes, it was certainly both, but it was definitely your head hit him first.

[Duncan]

Yeah, but it. I feel 100.

[Joe Rogan]

Look, Matt, you always had crazy power. Yeah.

[Duncan]

Hit him. He went through a lot.

[Joe Rogan]

He did go. But how about. He's coming back. He looks really good.

[Matt Serra]

Who's coming back?

[Joe Rogan]

Mat. No, I don't mean fighting. I don't mean fighting. No, no, no, no. I mean coming back from his injury.

[Matt Serra]

Come on, man. We can talk about that if you want. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. But where is.

[Joe Rogan]

What the. Okay. I said he looks a lot better since his. His rehabilitation. He's doing a lot of stem cells. Matt Sarah, Excuse. Excuse me. Matt Hughes.

[Duncan]

Thank you.

[Joe Rogan]

Sorry. You always look great, Matt. Matt Hughes got hit by a train, you know, and so. No, no, no, no. His car stalled out or something. I don't know what happened.

[Duncan]

I don't know, but it's depressing.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know what happened.

[Matt Serra]

Either way, it sucks.

[Joe Rogan]

What are you talking. What the. Are you introducing to the conversation? It's a train track.

[Matt Serra]

Like, it's lunar.

[Joe Rogan]

Maybe he had somehow information on NASA.

[Matt Serra]

He's on a cybertruck.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, they knew something. But anyway, point is, like, he looks great. Like, he. It's been a long road for that guy to recover from legend. He seems a lot better now. He walks a lot better. He's talking a lot.

[Duncan]

I seen him in Manchester. We did a signing over there, like, a year ago.

[Joe Rogan]

How was he? How was he then?

[Duncan]

Yeah, all right. No, he's good. He's like. I mean, he's not.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he's not 100.

[Duncan]

He's not. Yeah, he's. Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

How's Brian Callan?

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I.

[Duncan]

Listen, I think that he's. He's living.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

I don't think he's as sharp as major.

[Brendan Schaub]

Major brain injury.

[Duncan]

He had some brain injuries, you know.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I mean, especially that. The car accident with the train. After a long career, it was like, you know, a lot of rock and soccer, robots fights.

[Brendan Schaub]

I worked with him on Kingdom, spent a week with him.

[Matt Serra]

I love Matt.

[Brendan Schaub]

And he was. And he was great. And we talked a lot about, like, he was like, I just want to be able to wake up, put my shoes on, you know, He. He didn't feel like there was anything, but he was worried about it.

[Joe Rogan]

This is before the accident.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, I said, you have.

[Matt Serra]

That was 2005.

[Brendan Schaub]

No, that was 2015. 10 years ago. Yeah, but what I'm saying is that he was. He was totally fine, and he just. But it was always a worry for us, you know?

[Matt Serra]

Who seems to be doing good as Frank Trigg. You see him as a ref out there?

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

That's what you want.

[Duncan]

Looking nice and fat.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

Tricks big.

[Joe Rogan]

He's thick.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's thick. He's.

[Joe Rogan]

No, no, no. He seems happy, man. I ran into him a few times.

[Matt Serra]

But that's who you want as a refer. As a judge.

[Joe Rogan]

100.

[Matt Serra]

Like, these judges tonight, you know, no disrespect. What the.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, you think they're gonna be able.

[Matt Serra]

To judge Strickland's Defensive Strike Fighters?

[Brendan Schaub]

I don't understand.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, who knows who they have? Maybe they have good ones. Can I just Tell you that Chris Leben's been judging. Yeah, Chris le, Chris Leben's great.

[Brendan Schaub]

He judged the last one.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

When I'm having a bad day, I put in my knockout of Frank Tree. You know why I take shots at this? Let me tell you right now, I'm cool with everybody I ever fought. Now I, you know, I flux. I used to fluctuate.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

I've been staying.

[Brendan Schaub]

You mean weight wise? Weight wise, yeah, you get, you'd get thick, but.

[Matt Serra]

But what?

[Duncan]

Would I fluctuate in other. No, I got fat.

[Brendan Schaub]

I remember when you wear a brown belt. I've known Matt since 1990.

[Duncan]

Yes. And the only man I ever kissed.

[Brendan Schaub]

That's right, you kissed the red lips.

[Duncan]

Yeah, but that was, you know.

[Brendan Schaub]

But I think you went to kiss me on the cheek and I moved my head and then we.

[Duncan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

For the folks at home, let me say this so it'll key up. So what we do is when the first scorecard. The first time card. Rather clock, countdown, clock goes on. I'll give you the numbers so you can sync up. 4, 4, 58, 450 or 4544-534524-51450, 449. Good enough.

[Brendan Schaub]

All right.

[Joe Rogan]

Figured out. All right, so first round, Matthews and Prado.

[Matt Serra]

I get that light over there, Joe?

[Joe Rogan]

Yes, sir.

[Matt Serra]

Thank you, sir.

[Brendan Schaub]

How's my favorite person? Hensel Gracie?

[Duncan]

Man, you tell me, man. He, I, I talked to him through Instagram sometimes. He's all over the world, man. He's. He's hard.

[Joe Rogan]

I gotta get Henzo in here, man. He's.

[Brendan Schaub]

He is the best.

[Joe Rogan]

We almost did it one time. He was in Austin, but the timing was bad.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's so smart. He was just recently in Austin, hence, he's so smart.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he's got gyms all over the world, right?

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, yeah, he's brilliant. He's just a brilliant.

[Matt Serra]

One of a kind. Yeah, the best.

[Brendan Schaub]

Well, it's just a great human being.

[Matt Serra]

Wasn't Ricardo Almeida doing judging?

[Joe Rogan]

He was judging.

[Matt Serra]

He was the first one I heard of doing it.

[Brendan Schaub]

This is the guy you're high on right here. Matthews.

[Duncan]

I like Jake Matthews. I don't know. Let's see if he looks to take it to the floor.

[Joe Rogan]

He looks.

[Duncan]

He's got a big advantage on the floor.

[Brendan Schaub]

Nice.

[Joe Rogan]

He's sharp on his feet.

[Brendan Schaub]

His defense has been looking good, too.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, his defense has been looking very good.

[Brendan Schaub]

Just gets low and sits down.

[Joe Rogan]

He's super technical and he's like I said, he's one of those guys. It seems to me like he's gonna break out into the top five. He's one of those guys that's got the talent and he's real young. How old's Jake Matthews? Junkie young.

[Matt Serra]

Jamie, he's been around a hot second.

[Joe Rogan]

Maybe 29 if I'm guessing.

[Matt Serra]

I say 31.

[Joe Rogan]

But he's just like one of those guys that's always been, like, at the cusp.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's an interesting back tattoo.

[Joe Rogan]

30.

[Brendan Schaub]

That much?

[Joe Rogan]

Do you like it?

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What does it make you think of it?

[Brendan Schaub]

I don't know. It's an interesting idea. Like, I'm going to cover just that part of my back.

[Duncan]

What are you thinking?

[Brendan Schaub]

The tram stamp, I mean, it's a.

[Joe Rogan]

It's.

[Duncan]

It's not so much like that.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's more of a trick.

[Duncan]

Used to have a tram stamp.

[Joe Rogan]

Maybe he's going to do the whole back. Yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

It looks like the beginning of a. Of a. Of a whole back test when he.

[Duncan]

Was goofing on me.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's probably.

[Matt Serra]

That's like a tribal thing, right? That's like a New Zealand tattoo.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, maybe. Or it looks like a Japanese.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, good uppercuts inside. Good knees, too.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, damn.

[Joe Rogan]

Matthews is dangerous. Doesn't that dude look like Drew Dover Prado?

[Matt Serra]

A little bit.

[Joe Rogan]

A lot.

[Brendan Schaub]

Nobody, nobody has Drew jobbers.

[Joe Rogan]

Just not quite as handsome. That's like Drew Dober's bitter younger brother who's not as good looking.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

God damn it.

[Brendan Schaub]

Didn't get all these.

[Joe Rogan]

Drew. I bring my girlfriends over. They're staring at Drew.

[Brendan Schaub]

Stop. I'd always be chewing gum.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he's on his tippy toes when he's fighting that. Who's got better, like, constant staying on the ball? He's always, like, light on his feet. Always super light on his feet.

[Matt Serra]

He's a chin like Mr. Incredible.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm the exact same.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's ridiculous.

[Joe Rogan]

B striker, too. B Striker.

[Matt Serra]

Fun fighter.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Brendan Schaub]

These guys are.

[Duncan]

I wish. Matthews has good jiu jitsu, man. I'm telling you.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he's got good everything, man. Matthews is super well rounded. Somebody's gonna get knocked out, but Prado's good, too, man. This is a good fight.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, somebody's gonna connect.

[Joe Rogan]

This guy's got that anger. Drew Dover being handsomer than him, too. That carries you a long way.

[Brendan Schaub]

It does.

[Joe Rogan]

You think about it because it's just a little bit. It's like, God damn it. If my nose was just a little different yeah. Eyes are just a little more.

[Matt Serra]

It's like a poor man's Drew Dober.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. You know how, like, Kanye dated that new lady? He's married there. Yeah. It looks a lot like.

[Matt Serra]

Which is hot. But it's not Kim, right?

[Brendan Schaub]

I think she's way hotter than Kim.

[Matt Serra]

You see Kim in person?

[Brendan Schaub]

I have.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but we see pictures, bro. Come on. What's the deal?

[Brendan Schaub]

Kim's beautiful, but I mean, come on.

[Matt Serra]

No, you know, it's like. It's like Drew Dober's a Royals Royce Phantom, and he's a Chrysler 300.

[Joe Rogan]

I think that girl was born looking like that, though. You know what I'm saying?

[Brendan Schaub]

I agree.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, I don't think, like, I.

[Matt Serra]

Was it mad when she showed up to the Grammys naked? I was like, this is ridiculous. I'm like, okay.

[Joe Rogan]

I think hers is. I don't think her titan.

[Brendan Schaub]

I think her tits might be real.

[Joe Rogan]

They're all real. Shut your mouth.

[Matt Serra]

Facts.

[Brendan Schaub]

If you can touch them, they're real.

[Joe Rogan]

Shut your dirty. Shut your dirty. Nice.

[Brendan Schaub]

Does that count as a takedown? Hey, dude, that's condescending.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a home run cond.

[Matt Serra]

You were joking.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I like to get people, you.

[Brendan Schaub]

Know, I like to ask the questions that novices are.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, right, right. I do that sometimes in podcasts.

[Brendan Schaub]

You got to create some energy. In the podcast.

[Joe Rogan]

I ask questions.

[Brendan Schaub]

I can't get people to relax.

[Duncan]

Yeah. Come on, man. Get him down now.

[Joe Rogan]

Put him down. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.

[Brendan Schaub]

Prado. Come on.

[Duncan]

Prado Matthews.

[Brendan Schaub]

I've been a Prado fan for.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, somebody's getting caught in the right hand.

[Brendan Schaub]

Great defense.

[Joe Rogan]

Jake is clean, man. He's clean. I like the way this dude strikes.

[Brendan Schaub]

These guys have been doing some boxing.

[Joe Rogan]

Super technical, man, but. Yes, but hyper aggressive, too. Look at that. Oh, he blocked it, though.

[Matt Serra]

He blocked.

[Joe Rogan]

He hit him with the yair. Yeah, they're jumping round. I was always bleeding now.

[Brendan Schaub]

Damn.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, Prado's busted up on his right eyebrow.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

Joe, you know one of my favorite moments when you guys it up when you had Zuckerberg on and he goes, I hunt.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, no.

[Matt Serra]

I went like this.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Duncan]

What is he on?

[Joe Rogan]

He just.

[Matt Serra]

I went, yes.

[Joe Rogan]

He goes.

[Matt Serra]

And then my favorite goes. I bow hunt. I went, thank you, God.

[Brendan Schaub]

I love.

[Matt Serra]

Because I saw Joe. I saw Joe go. Do you. What kind of bow do you use?

[Joe Rogan]

I think he did. I just forgot his bow. Oh, you forgot the name of his bow. Listen, there's levels to this. I would never forget my bow, but I'm a Fanatic. Like, I shoot archery every day.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, because you shoot bows and arrows.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he does. He. This video of him. No, no. He definitely.

[Matt Serra]

It's like saying I played laser tag.

[Joe Rogan]

He definitely bow hunts pigs. He lives. He lives on an island. He has an island in Kauai that's infested with wild pigs. He know. He does hunt them. I've seen videos of him doing it.

[Matt Serra]

I've seen him.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just someone gives him a bow, he doesn't look at it. He doesn't care. Somebody teaches him how to shoot. He's not. He doesn't know what release he has. If I said, what do you have? You have a stand, you have a wise guy. What do you have?

[Brendan Schaub]

Too much for that.

[Joe Rogan]

Why would you use a hinge? Do you have a knock to my favorite part?

[Matt Serra]

You can tell, like, if you're gonna talk bows with Joe or pool or even cars, you better come correct.

[Joe Rogan]

So I just know when he goes, yeah, I bow hunt.

[Matt Serra]

And I thought, oh, but.

[Brendan Schaub]

But this is Zuckerberg 2.0, and I love it.

[Joe Rogan]

He's awesome. He's doing testosterone. He's doing jujitsu. I don't know if he's doing tests. I hope he's doing test. I think he is, but he certainly looks a lot thicker.

[Brendan Schaub]

Looks great.

[Joe Rogan]

When he came in, I was laughing at him. Like, your neck looks bigger. Look at your neck.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yes. He turned into a conservative.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Matt Serra]

Guess what's convenient.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Well, also, hard work makes you think that way.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Hard work physically makes you, like, appreciate some masculine aspects of life.

[Brendan Schaub]

Do I need a light?

[Duncan]

I'll tell you right now if he fought Elon Musk, and Elon Musk is sleeping on the Jiu Jitsu. I know he's. Because sometimes when you hear Elon Musk talking about the fighting, you're like, oh, stick to the rockets, buddy.

[Matt Serra]

I don't want to see either of them.

[Brendan Schaub]

When you're that rich.

[Joe Rogan]

This fight is heating up, kids. These guys are gold.

[Matt Serra]

Elon has some white.

[Joe Rogan]

He gives a big fella.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, but if he looks like Trump.

[Brendan Schaub]

He looks like warm cheese. You see him with his shirt off. God bless. I love him.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a lot thinner now. We got on that Ozempic, son.

[Brendan Schaub]

Okay, dude, everybody's.

[Duncan]

What is with that?

[Brendan Schaub]

He's got. His skin is so wide.

[Joe Rogan]

I've seen.

[Brendan Schaub]

I've seen darker clouds, but.

[Duncan]

What?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's a little bit of a cheat code, because what it does is it makes you not hungry, and so people don't eat as much and you go in a calorie deficit. But you could do that on your own.

[Brendan Schaub]

They use it for addiction.

[Matt Serra]

It's called discipline.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a cheat code, people. But the best way to do. If you want to do it on your own, just only eat meat. I swear to God, you'll lose a ton of weight.

[Duncan]

Of colitis. It does wonders for my.

[Brendan Schaub]

Did you have that?

[Duncan]

Yeah, I got it.

[Brendan Schaub]

They're using Ozempic for. For addiction.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Ozempic's got a bunch of other uses, too. And it's also like, for diabetes.

[Matt Serra]

Doesn't it stop addiction overall, though? I heard people.

[Duncan]

Yeah, yeah, but what is it?

[Matt Serra]

It ruins your body.

[Duncan]

It's got to be. Is there any tests on it, like, in the long run?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, the problem is, anytime you go into calorie deficit, your body starts eating itself. So what people are losing is not just fat. They're losing muscle and bone density. So Peter Attia, who's a good friend of mine, did some studies on his patients that did it, and he found that even when they lost weight, they got fatter. So they actually gained more fat and they lost muscle and bone mass. But this is what I think. I think were those people lifting weights while they were on that stuff? Here's the thing. I feel like you got to do something to mitigate the fact that you're. And also just. You can't. You got to be rational. You can't, like, just try to starve yourself into thinness because you're gonna. Your organs up. It's not good. You. What you really should do is make sure you consume enough calories to support any kind of physical exercise you're doing. And then make sure you do physical exercise while you're also taking that stuff, and maybe then you can keep some muscle.

[Matt Serra]

That takes discipline. They want to just take the shot, get skinny and lean.

[Joe Rogan]

People do get skinny, though. It works.

[Duncan]

And it sucks being a fat guy, right?

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, but how fat were you?

[Joe Rogan]

Like, how about this?

[Duncan]

Like, right now? Buck 85.

[Matt Serra]

Okay.

[Duncan]

What? See my. You.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, okay.

[Duncan]

Listen to me.

[Brendan Schaub]

No, but let me get my hand on my.

[Duncan]

When I was a fatty, I was up to 230, and I'm 5 6. When you're listening, if you got fat, you'd be like, oh, Brendan's a little husky. I've been fat when you're my height. I'm pointing to Joe, too. He's taller than me, though.

[Joe Rogan]

230 is a lot, dude.

[Duncan]

I was heavy.

[Joe Rogan]

That must have hurt your joints. Did that hurt your Joints, not so much my joints.

[Duncan]

It's just I felt like a factor.

[Joe Rogan]

Your lower back didn't with you or not?

[Duncan]

Well, my lower black back went out at one point. And I'm sure that didn't help it, you know, but I was. And then I got on trt, but I was still heavy because I'd be eating like a pig. But this goes back to the trick thing, because I didn't want to sound like a bully. The only reason I with that guy still is because after I knocked him out years later, then I got fat. He called me up one time looking for ally aquinta's number. So I got sure I gave it to him. He had Al on the show when Al was getting off. He goes, hey, tell the beer keg I said hello. So I don't forget like that. I don't forget it. Now that he's a fat guy and I'm in shape, I like to take a shot.

[Joe Rogan]

A good right hand.

[Duncan]

I hope he goes for a takedown.

[Joe Rogan]

Man. You really like it. Did you just do that much? Matt?

[Duncan]

I've seen. I. I know he has it.

[Joe Rogan]

So, like, why this guy use it? I think he's doing really well on the feet. That's why he wants to get a k. Ally Quinta.

[Brendan Schaub]

People forget was that Khabib couldn't take.

[Joe Rogan]

Him down with Khabib even. But still short notice for Al. I know it's a different fight for khabib, but he struggled in that fight. Al had his moments.

[Matt Serra]

Did a good job defending takedown.

[Duncan]

He was also set to fight Paul Felder. So he was about to fight a totally different fight.

[Joe Rogan]

Totally different.

[Duncan]

24 hours notice. He did the. He had the best fight with Habib that anybody ever had. It's amazing.

[Joe Rogan]

He didn't get dominated. He lost the fight, but he didn't get dominated. Like a lot like Conor did or a lot of other guys did. Got smashed.

[Matt Serra]

Conor had some success too, in that though, too.

[Joe Rogan]

He did, yeah.

[Matt Serra]

If you watch it again, there was one ass whip.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

You're like, damn.

[Brendan Schaub]

He did better against Khabib almost than anybody else for a while. Yeah. Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

And his camp was atrocious that time. It was bad camp. Yeah, very bad.

[Joe Rogan]

His.

[Matt Serra]

His trainer talks about just. It was like a dark camp. He wasn't training with the team. He's like in his head about. He was like, it was a dark camp. It was horrible.

[Joe Rogan]

This is post, Floyd.

[Matt Serra]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that's a problem too. Right. You get ready for a boxing match with one of the all Time greats. You got to take six months where you're not doing any takedowns, no leg kicks, nothing. All you're doing is boxing.

[Matt Serra]

Bad idea.

[Joe Rogan]

You, you're not going to take any extra energy and train your jiu jitsu when you're training for a Floyd Mayweather box.

[Matt Serra]

Khabib, the greatest grappler we've seen out there waiting forever.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a terrible idea when he's on top of him going, let's talk now.

[Matt Serra]

Now the other side is made a ton of money.

[Brendan Schaub]

Did you hear it? You were right. You were there for that fight. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Who, yeah, who was it that said? Someone said recently that I think if the Conor McGregor who beat Eddie Alvarez face Khabib have been a completely different fight. Right.

[Matt Serra]

I probably said that.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't remember who it was, but I, I, I, I listened to that and I said, you know what? I think that's true.

[Brendan Schaub]

How do you solve that?

[Joe Rogan]

I think he was a different guy, but I think he was a different guy. He was a animal.

[Matt Serra]

Space management, I think it was that said that.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, but you're right. Coach wrestling doesn't care about that. Once he closed distance, it'd be a problem for Connor.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it always going to be a problem. But Conor was so good on his feet back then. So good. Good.

[Matt Serra]

So elusive too.

[Duncan]

I like the clips of him getting interviewed back in the day saying partying is weakness for your soul. And then his clips now of him being like he's all pumped.

[Matt Serra]

It's like we want him to come back. It ain't happening.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he knows too, Jimmy.

[Matt Serra]

Of course he knows.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God. Jake Matthews is walking this out of there.

[Matt Serra]

He's put on this. If you're the first, find the main card, you're there to finish well.

[Joe Rogan]

Also, he's trying to make a name for himself and he's in Australia, you know, home country, the whole deal. That's where he's from. Right, right. And he from.

[Duncan]

I think he is.

[Matt Serra]

He's Australian.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. You have to have your hometown boys when you have a, a fight on a, a card in the motherland.

[Matt Serra]

That's why poor Strickland going back there.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but Trickus is from South Africa. It's like it's kind of neutral ground. Same area.

[Brendan Schaub]

Same area, same area. It's different continent. But you know what it means?

[Joe Rogan]

Totally close.

[Matt Serra]

Closer than Vegas where Strickland is.

[Joe Rogan]

And not much.

[Duncan]

I just re watched that one.

[Brendan Schaub]

That's got to be a though. Matt, do you ever fight and have to get Ready?

[Matt Serra]

How'd you score? Was Strickland.

[Duncan]

I was. That. You gave it to Strickland? It was. I mean, how much do you. The takedowns. What do you, how much do you give for the takedowns? He didn't do.

[Matt Serra]

I don't think he got struck at all.

[Duncan]

So it's like how do you score those? I thought Strickland won. I thought he won three to two.

[Joe Rogan]

But same.

[Duncan]

It was very. I mean it's all how you. The other. I'll tell you though, Drake is. Does he mixes in those takedowns and I think sway some judges, they see big. They say big moments instead of the whole round.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a big dude too.

[Brendan Schaub]

He also pushes forward. So yeah, you remember Strickland's the one who pushes forward always. He's got and, but octagon control when.

[Matt Serra]

You, when you, when you go through the judging slash.

[Brendan Schaub]

No, I understand. But, but the thing about. He's going to be moving forward always. And, and I think Sean is used to moving forward himself. So he's gonna be fighting on his back foot.

[Matt Serra]

But then also Strickland's not getting points because his defense is so good.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's.

[Matt Serra]

He's blocking a lot of shots, but it looks like they're landing. But he's actually blocking.

[Duncan]

Y rolls good with that Philly shell. But how much did that cut, how much did that affect them? That happened early on. He said he was a one eyed guy.

[Joe Rogan]

Early on he talked.

[Matt Serra]

Plus the judges see that that's damaged. That's the number one judging criteria.

[Joe Rogan]

What did. What caused that that cut?

[Matt Serra]

A headbutt they said, right?

[Joe Rogan]

Was it a headbutt or a punch?

[Matt Serra]

Yes, I thought it was a headbutt.

[Joe Rogan]

It was a great fight though. Still a very good fight.

[Matt Serra]

People that say it's boring. I'm like, man, I thought it was great.

[Joe Rogan]

It was a high level. Very high level.

[Brendan Schaub]

I'd imagine Duplessy's hard to get ready because you can't find anybody who spars.

[Matt Serra]

Like that, can't mimic them.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's like he almost fights like a drunk bark.

[Joe Rogan]

I was like, pro Oscar. Good luck getting ready for that.

[Duncan]

That was awesome. His last fight.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh my God.

[Duncan]

He puts him. He like trusts his like spider sense. He goes right in front. He's like, it's crazy, man.

[Joe Rogan]

And his head movement has gotten so much better. And those counters, those pull counters. He hit him with a couple of pull left hands and then a right hook counter after that. Oh my goodness. It was blah, blah. It was like Duck the punch, blah blah, blah.

[Matt Serra]

What do you do with Yuri though? You know, wow.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like one more and then maybe tries Alex again.

[Matt Serra]

I got one for you. What about Robert Whitaker at 205? Gary? Robert Whitaker.

[Joe Rogan]

Yuri. Is that Rob? What Robert wants to do? He wants to go to 205. Really? That's crazy for a guy who started at 170.

[Duncan]

At 170 he was saying it's tough.

[Matt Serra]

For him to make 85.

[Joe Rogan]

He's bigger now.

[Matt Serra]

Robert Whitaker's thick.

[Joe Rogan]

Imagine. I mean, we've seen it before. What about rumble? Rumble starts his 170, moves up to heavyweight.

[Brendan Schaub]

I was doing. I was doing warrior with him. He was 230 on set. 2:30 and not fat. He sucked down to 170, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

He was so big. I ran into him in a hotel once. I'm like, how the are you ever 1 70? He was so big. His shoulders were as wide as a barn.

[Brendan Schaub]

And he sucked down at 170.

[Joe Rogan]

He was. And he. And he didn't have an ounce of fat on him. He was 235.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's walking around 235.

[Matt Serra]

Can't be healthy.

[Joe Rogan]

No.

[Matt Serra]

It should be illegal.

[Joe Rogan]

But when he would get in there, oh my God, he would hit guys. It would just go flying.

[Brendan Schaub]

What did he die of?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know. He had some sort of organ failure.

[Matt Serra]

Organ thing.

[Joe Rogan]

Some organ thing.

[Matt Serra]

Tragic.

[Duncan]

What is that? Alp.

[Joe Rogan]

What is that? That's one of them. This is Tucker Carlson's Nicotine Power.

[Duncan]

Oh, he's got his own thing.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that's Tucker's. They're good. They're really good. Are they? Yeah, they're very good. Well, the, the people from Zinn didn't like him, apparently. Oh, he said he. He said something joking around that'll make your dick grow. Just playing around. And they, and they said something about.

[Matt Serra]

You know, I don't was in either.

[Joe Rogan]

We don't think that. And don't don't. So we don't agree with. With what he said. It's not true. Like a duh duh. Nobody really thinks it makes your dick grow.

[Matt Serra]

I didn't with him before. I definitely don't know.

[Duncan]

Scott, it's a corporation.

[Joe Rogan]

Corporations are owned by ce.

[Duncan]

You don't like the nicotine.

[Joe Rogan]

They're run by people, black buffalo, who don't want to be involved in anything controversial. And they probably thought that. That being involved with Tucker Carlson was controversial.

[Duncan]

So he started his own thing.

[Joe Rogan]

So he started his own thing. It's really good. They're better.

[Matt Serra]

You've seen Tucker drives like a old school F100.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Because he doesn't want the government to have access to his gps. No electronics. He's got a carburetor.

[Matt Serra]

That'S like a.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, if you're that guy. If you're doing f102 hour episodes about a guy who supposedly sucked Obama's dick.

[Matt Serra]

Dude, that was wild. I had to. Listen, bro, I have to give it a go.

[Joe Rogan]

You got to be, you know, watching your six, bro. You're. What did you do, dude?

[Brendan Schaub]

That was a fight, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Very good fight.

[Duncan]

Yeah, he's got that, though. Matthews, I think.

[Joe Rogan]

I think so too.

[Brendan Schaub]

He does, But Prado's badass, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's a good fight. Jake's so good and tight.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah. Look at this, though.

[Joe Rogan]

There's the trip boom.

[Brendan Schaub]

There's the takedown.

[Matt Serra]

Tucker's way bigger now that he's on his own. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. Way bigger. Way bigger.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's so good. He's undeniable.

[Joe Rogan]

He's. He's a super nice guy.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, I had a friend of mine had him on his podcast and he has this lady who works with him that's like real liberal, bro. And he said she didn't want to like him, but she loved him by the end of the show.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's a great guy. He knows exactly why he stands where he stands. Like, he's really thought out every position. It feels.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he's not a liar.

[Matt Serra]

He was a little weird when he was on Fox because, you know, he's pushing the agenda. But then when he went on his own, I'm like, yeah, well, towards the end.

[Joe Rogan]

Towards the end of Fox, towards the end of his run, he was like the only guy on the news talking about real. Yeah. And you know, and talking about things that were very controversial and people did not want him talking about.

[Matt Serra]

That's why they fired him.

[Joe Rogan]

They fired him when he was at the top, Pop. That's what's crazy. He was the number one guy on Fox.

[Brendan Schaub]

That was the dominion, though.

[Joe Rogan]

But it was a lot of different things. There was multiple different. I mean, it was. No one was happy.

[Matt Serra]

They're both the Fox and CNN ratings that suck five kick. It's more views.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. At this point, it's a weird medium because there's too many commercials. You have to watch it at the time.

[Matt Serra]

That's how they make money through all the advertising. It's all pharmaceutical companies.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just too hard to compete with the Internet when you have that hindering format.

[Matt Serra]

But also the news on there, it comes out way faster.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Serra]

Than on mainstream news.

[Joe Rogan]

But, I mean, they're good for, like, people that have, you know, editorial talk and breaking things down in a funny way and showing you clips of people going nutty. And, you know, it's. They're good for. For certain things. That's different than the Internet. And then they put clips of those things. Those things. You know, it's kind of like it's become almost like a viral Internet show.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Because each one of them, like the 15 minute ones, when they put them out, you know, those get a lot of views, probably more than they even get on television. It's weird because it's like regular television is. Nobody wants to watch it. Nobody wants to watch a regular.

[Matt Serra]

You still don't trust it anymore. You just don't trust any of it.

[Duncan]

They even have sitcoms anymore, like new ones.

[Brendan Schaub]

And, you know, honestly, Ms. Pat is.

[Joe Rogan]

A really good one, but it's on bet's app.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's great.

[Joe Rogan]

She's great.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But other than that, I don't know anybody.

[Duncan]

I like. I like Tires with. With Shane.

[Joe Rogan]

That's great. That's kind of a sitcom. I mean, it's a single camera. Yeah, it's a show, but it's a. Yeah, it's a comedy show.

[Duncan]

Funny. Oh, Netflix got it.

[Matt Serra]

We got season two coming.

[Duncan]

Oh, that's gonna be great.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's all changed so much, man.

[Duncan]

That's. That's an enjoyable show.

[Brendan Schaub]

This business has changed.

[Joe Rogan]

Change the man.

[Matt Serra]

David Spade are doing a sitcom.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Duncan]

There's some funny coming back. Even that. The. The heavy. I don't want to say the heavy. Say Greek guy, but I don't forgot his name. He's on your show. Yes. Let's start a cult. It's a good. You see it?

[Joe Rogan]

No.

[Duncan]

Oh, it's funny. Oh, it's like, you know, it's a throwback. It's like a. It's one of those stupid, silly comedies. It was good. Really good.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a funny dude.

[Matt Serra]

There's not a lot, is there?

[Duncan]

There's not, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it must be the whole thing. Used to be the whole thing on television was getting a sitcom. They're stopping.

[Duncan]

This is great. I love this.

[Joe Rogan]

This.

[Brendan Schaub]

I never saw it.

[Duncan]

It's good. It's on. I got. I bought it on. I.

[Joe Rogan]

It's on Hulu.

[Duncan]

I think I got it. If I saw maybe on here or somewhere. This was great. This is a funny. This is a funny. A funny. A funny movie. He's just A f. Because it's not trying to push a. It's a movie. It's not giving a message. He's. Dude, he's showing his balls.

[Joe Rogan]

It's.

[Duncan]

It's funny.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just a.

[Duncan]

Funny stories. I don't want to get any messages delivered to me. I just want to have a good time.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he's a funny dude. Yeah, I don't need that. I don't need you. Again, don't give me a message.

[Matt Serra]

I only watch documentaries. Really? Like any OJ Doc?

[Joe Rogan]

Make more, bro. You know what's good? You know what? You like Nosferato. Have you seen Nostradam?

[Duncan]

I watched it. I thought it was all right.

[Matt Serra]

I listened to your recommendation.

[Duncan]

It's a movie.

[Matt Serra]

People love it.

[Joe Rogan]

The best vampire movie of all time.

[Brendan Schaub]

What'd you think of American prime level?

[Duncan]

Oh, I like it.

[Joe Rogan]

Great. Early on.

[Duncan]

I told you to watch that. That was good.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a great show.

[Duncan]

It reminds you of like the. The. The one with Leonardo.

[Brendan Schaub]

Reverend Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

I just can't stand here why Brennan Shaw is disrespecting Nosferato.

[Matt Serra]

You know why? You know, if we're gonna discuss it, it's gonna be a spoiler alert. How he dies in the end. Just lays down with the chick in the sun.

[Joe Rogan]

Did a pack. She'd give herself to him.

[Brendan Schaub]

Bro, you gotta die.

[Duncan]

Wait, is this a remake of the old one?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but it's got a lot of different going on. But the. The dude who plays Nosferatu is the same dude who played it. He played Pennywise. You know what's a good show starts? What?

[Matt Serra]

Scars something.

[Joe Rogan]

Bill.

[Matt Serra]

Scars.

[Brendan Schaub]

See the old man, Jeff.

[Joe Rogan]

It's good for one episode.

[Brendan Schaub]

I only saw.

[Duncan]

That's it, man. I fell off of it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's really good for one episode. You're like, wow, can they keep this going? And then it gets stupid.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, it does?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, they get stupid. Like, wait a minute. They would track you. This is stupid.

[Matt Serra]

Hey, that. That American Prime.

[Joe Rogan]

They can find you. You can't travel across the country. Shut the. She's not to fall in love with you. You kidnapped her. This is. Hey.

[Matt Serra]

That American Primeval. So is there a season two or is it just done?

[Brendan Schaub]

No, it's done. Peter Bur can make a movie and a tv.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. He made painkiller. He made pain. Painkiller. Sackler family thing.

[Brendan Schaub]

Why Sackler's not on some island somewhere?

[Joe Rogan]

That's a good question. What happens now?

[Brendan Schaub]

Mass murderers.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's see what happens now with Trump. And let's see what Happens.

[Brendan Schaub]

They're the worst people on the planet.

[Duncan]

Speaking of series, before we get off series, man, because I love this silo I'm watching now, which is great. I'm on the second season. I love finding something late. So there's like two seasons. I get excited and even better, Grant Dawson, UFC fighter Grant Dawson, bigger nerd than me. He gives me all to watch from.

[Matt Serra]

Oh.

[Duncan]

That'S the whitest. Oh, it's good. We tried to do an algebraic third and we will it.

[Joe Rogan]

So good. You watching it?

[Duncan]

What are you doing at.

[Matt Serra]

I'm finished it.

[Duncan]

I'm on the first season.

[Matt Serra]

It's such a far way to go.

[Duncan]

It's.

[Joe Rogan]

You want to explain this? It is so good.

[Duncan]

It's almost like a Twilight Zone.

[Matt Serra]

They're trapped in a town they cannot leave. And at night these demons come out and kill everyone. So they have to hide.

[Joe Rogan]

At night.

[Duncan]

They got monsters come out at night.

[Matt Serra]

Monsters, Demons.

[Duncan]

So they got.

[Joe Rogan]

What do the monsters look like?

[Matt Serra]

People. People.

[Joe Rogan]

What? They look like people. Yeah.

[Duncan]

Without giving too much. Like the first episode, there's a little girl and all of a sudden at the window, it's grandma.

[Matt Serra]

Because they can't come in the house.

[Duncan]

They can't come.

[Matt Serra]

So they try to get the kids to let them in the house and they.

[Duncan]

And they. Yeah, and then. But they devour them. And you can't fight them. You can't shoot them. They rip you apart.

[Joe Rogan]

What are they?

[Duncan]

They're just. That's the thing. It's almost like a type of show. Like you're like, wait, what the Are they? How'd they get there? They were all traveling on different parts. I don't want to give too much away, but you know what?

[Matt Serra]

It's hard to explain.

[Duncan]

It is hard to expl.

[Matt Serra]

Very complicated.

[Brendan Schaub]

What's it on?

[Duncan]

So I bought it on Prime.

[Matt Serra]

I bought it on Apple the first season.

[Joe Rogan]

Apple.

[Duncan]

That's right. Apple, I think. Yeah. Oh, so good.

[Joe Rogan]

Season three.

[Matt Serra]

I'm.

[Duncan]

I'm on the first season. I'm almost done with it.

[Joe Rogan]

Jesus. It's got three seasons.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, three seasons. It's fantastic.

[Joe Rogan]

Believable and scary as hell. Stephen King, balls deep in it, man.

[Duncan]

I like it.

[Brendan Schaub]

Jesus.

[Joe Rogan]

Damn. I'm in. I'm in.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, it's great.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm going to right jump.

[Matt Serra]

It's worse.

[Brendan Schaub]

This fight was out epic. G. And oh, best. I'm prepared to die. That's what he said there. Badass.

[Matt Serra]

Best minute fight of all time.

[Duncan]

Why do all black guys like anime?

[Joe Rogan]

That's not true.

[Duncan]

Not all black guys but most people generalize.

[Brendan Schaub]

I've never met a black guy in my life who likes anime.

[Duncan]

You never met a black anim?

[Matt Serra]

I haven't. He's the only one I know.

[Duncan]

Really?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

I'm thinking like my student Marcus. My brother in law, Edwin. They look. I mean, I don't know. I could. I can go on.

[Matt Serra]

Is it a younger kid? I don't know.

[Duncan]

I don't know. No, man, Edwin's, you know, 40. Yeah, he's 40. That's weird or something. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know.

[Duncan]

Not all black. I don't want. Let me just put that out there.

[Brendan Schaub]

Like anime, you know, it took the.

[Joe Rogan]

Place of kung fu movies.

[Duncan]

Is that what it is?

[Joe Rogan]

Players are arguing over their favorite anime show. Are they really?

[Duncan]

What is it?

[Joe Rogan]

NFL players. All right.

[Brendan Schaub]

The first hundred. My daughter was in the anime. Hard.

[Joe Rogan]

Interesting.

[Matt Serra]

I can't get into it.

[Duncan]

Yo, I had my one fighter, young Marcus. He was down two rounds and I went into the third round. I know he loves anime. I go, marcus, forget that. You'll live in your anime movie and you're the hero. And I went nuts.

[Joe Rogan]

And he's like, yeah, yeah.

[Duncan]

He went out and strangled the guy. I go, dude, come on, man. Black star.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, let me see that letter, Joe. Thanks, brother.

[Duncan]

All right.

[Joe Rogan]

That's weird that that worked.

[Duncan]

Like a big kid. What did I do?

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at Izzy.

[Duncan]

Right?

[Matt Serra]

I thought you're gonna say what happened? Got it knocked out or something.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he's a hall of fame inductee. Fight wing the Kelvin Gasum fight. Oh, my God. Is he. Yeah. That's well worth one of the greatest fights of all time.

[Brendan Schaub]

Legend.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at that jacket. Oh.

[Duncan]

What's going on? He just get inducted into the.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. For the Calvin Gasum fight. Wow.

[Matt Serra]

Rightfully so.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, rightfully so. That's. That was an amazing fight. Oh, my God. That was one of the greatest all time fight. Gas.

[Brendan Schaub]

Gas.

[Duncan]

Work.

[Brendan Schaub]

This one of those.

[Matt Serra]

Just pull down there. Oh, yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, here we go. Cr.

[Duncan]

I'm tarded.

[Brendan Schaub]

Tar is a lie.

[Duncan]

Hey, can I have something where you just go like this? Oh. Around.

[Joe Rogan]

Is it working?

[Duncan]

Nah, I don't know, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

I. Listen, is it out of juice?

[Matt Serra]

I'll help you.

[Joe Rogan]

All right.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, it's out of juice.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, here.

[Duncan]

Oh, there you go. Thank God. I thought I was just a. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

There'S something in there. It's in the bottom this little hole.

[Brendan Schaub]

Where's your school, Matt?

[Duncan]

Huntington, Long Island. Yeah, man.

[Brendan Schaub]

Holy.

[Duncan]

I met you in like 98, 96. 96. Yeah. When you were on MAD TV.

[Brendan Schaub]

That's right.

[Duncan]

The Gracie Ku Klux.

[Brendan Schaub]

I got my blue belt from Hansel Matt.

[Joe Rogan]

Remember when I met you, we, we went to your gym. It was like you picked us up. You picked us up at the train station.

[Duncan]

Yeah, you had a gig. I was gonna fight BJ Penn. I was leaving that drive to Connecticut.

[Joe Rogan]

That's right.

[Duncan]

And you had a gig somewhere. I picked you and Eddie Bravo up at the Hicksville train station.

[Joe Rogan]

Yep. We took a train from the city out to Long island, went to Matt's gym. It was awesome.

[Duncan]

I showed you my apartment in the basement.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes, yes. Where you piss into the bucket every night. And he was, he was drinking so much water and because he was training and living in the gym. So he had an apartment in the gym and he had a big old piss bucket. So like you take a jug, like a gallon jug, and stick his dick in it and put it right. And screw it back on so he didn't have to get out of bed, get up.

[Duncan]

I did that for so long that I. If even when I got married, I'd be doing it. And then finally my wife just says, listen, I'm done. You gotta. I'm done with that. And I'm like, all right. Also to just be hearing the hitting the Snapple bottle. My mother in law was over one time, she was helping to clean the room. She's like, why is that the. The Snapple? She's like, put it down, put it down. But yeah, man, I don.

[Joe Rogan]

Do that no more.

[Matt Serra]

I don't do that no more.

[Duncan]

But yeah, I'll never forget, man.

[Joe Rogan]

That was like a awesome thing to see though. Dedication. You were living in the gym. He just had a bedroom there. He's like, all I'm doing is just training, just constant training, living here, teaching and training.

[Duncan]

I get flashbacks now that now because sometimes like on Mondays I'll do the 7am and I'll do the noon also before I go home and do Unfilted with Jimmy. So I'll take a nap in my lounge. And it brings me like flashbacks of, of between classes of like when I was younger and I. You know what I mean? But now I got my, my castle.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, how about John Donner used to sleep on the mats.

[Duncan]

He probably still is.

[Joe Rogan]

The guy was a professor at Columbia.

[Brendan Schaub]

John. John would be. I mean, yeah, he was working on his PhD.

[Matt Serra]

Did John come out here?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he's not here. He was one of the first guys. I talked him into it. Like way back in the day, in the middle of the pandemic they were in Puerto Rico. I was like, get out of there where you can.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's got a great sense of humor, too. People don't know about him.

[Duncan]

Oh, yeah, He's a little twisted.

[Brendan Schaub]

Literally. Literally. For a long time, like, they'd say, like, if you were like, how you doing? He'd go, go yourself.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Brendan Schaub]

Always in a rash card.

[Joe Rogan]

No matter what suffers, no fools.

[Brendan Schaub]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Fascinating guy, too. I mean, you want to talk about a cheat code that Gordon Ryan has, and he talks about it all the time. He's like, you have a guy who's got, like, maybe the greatest mind ever in combat sports. Sports, yeah. And he's your coach. And he's. He doesn't give a. About anything else. When he's not teaching, he's studying tape. He studies tape all day long. He's just a robot.

[Matt Serra]

He's a minimalist, too, right? Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

Dude. Hence, I was like, sometimes the guy come in, his head is down. He's just feeling like he's too deep, man.

[Duncan]

It's too deep.

[Brendan Schaub]

Always talking about philosophy.

[Joe Rogan]

His head is all like that.

[Brendan Schaub]

Some days you can't talk to the guy. I'm like, what do you mean it's too deep? The guy's too smart for everybody.

[Joe Rogan]

Crazy, too. That, like, one thing that was said to him, one that Dean Lister said to him once, why would you ignore 50 of the human body? And he was like, that's.

[Duncan]

That's when he was staying on my futon, really. He was staying with me and Rodrigo Gracie at our apartment in Woodmere, and I brought him into the city. I met him in the 2000 Pro AMS. We both competed. He competed versus Mark Layman. I went versus Leo Vera on them, and we became friendly with that. And then I had him down. He was training at Longos. He was staying on my futon, and I'd bring him into the city. And that's when he met John.

[Brendan Schaub]

Back then, nobody was at least in head, so nobody was really working ankle.

[Duncan]

No, no. He took out most of the academies with that.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

He was in there taking out their legs.

[Joe Rogan]

Nobody. Dean was in his prime. He was a monster. Dean Lister was a monster. He was so hard to deal with.

[Brendan Schaub]

About as thick as a silver.

[Joe Rogan]

And he was obsessed with jiu jitsu, you know? You know, Jocko trained with them, and Jocko said, literally, got a mind like a steel trap for jiu jitsu, like positions, encounters, and moves. It's like always, like, you have to be psychotic and obsessed.

[Brendan Schaub]

Like chess.

[Joe Rogan]

It's Just how long can you do it for? Yeah, right. And then he started fighting in the ufc, and when he was fighting the ufc, he wasn't a striker. He didn't have striking. It wasn't. It just wasn't good enough to. To hang with the best guys because, like, on the feet, he'd be at such a disadvantage, and it's so hard to get guys down, down. It's hard. But when it came to, like, straight Jiu jitsu, Dean Lister was a monster.

[Duncan]

Oh, he was great.

[Joe Rogan]

He was so good, and he got big.

[Matt Serra]

You remember Jeff Munson?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God.

[Matt Serra]

Does he live in Russia now?

[Brendan Schaub]

Yes, he does.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes, he lives in Russia. He's married to a Russian. He speaks Russian.

[Matt Serra]

Tattoo on his back.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

Remember, there's that picture of him and against the SWAT team.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

He's, like, protesting.

[Brendan Schaub]

I think he's a communist, right?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. Full on. On. Yeah. He's out of Russia, Brian. Yeah. Like, he's, like, all in. Yeah, he's all in with Mother Russia. He always wanted to be a Russian.

[Matt Serra]

Like, not a guy you want to get into conflict.

[Duncan]

Yeah, he's an odd dude, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah, he is.

[Matt Serra]

He's smart. Yeah, well, smart.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

He was also built like a grape. He was like one gigantic muscle.

[Brendan Schaub]

Like a grape.

[Joe Rogan]

There was just a grape with giant arms. Use a 10 tank. Yeah, definitely not. But I'll tell you what. Formidable. And he would. He was one of the first guys to do north south chokes. And because he was so strong, people assumed that it was a goon move, that it was just. He would just grab your neck and squeeze it. And then people realized, like, no, it's basically like a guillotine from a different position.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, he's a badass.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God. Look at the size of him. That was when he's at full juicy juice.

[Brendan Schaub]

He looks. He looks great.

[Matt Serra]

Find that picture of him in the riots. Good. Like. And you can tell they got the right guys. Like, what?

[Brendan Schaub]

He's a cartoon. Look at him.

[Joe Rogan]

He's standing there with his Jesus hammer and sickle tattoo.

[Duncan]

Monster guys with big chest that north. My father was. Used to be good at that. My father was a. Is a black belt on the Henzo.

[Joe Rogan]

Just smother guys and then get the chokers.

[Matt Serra]

There it is.

[Brendan Schaub]

Was he at NCAA champ or. He was at inter on his.

[Joe Rogan]

His Twitter. Yeah. And it's like capitalism. He's got a guy with a gun to another guy's head. It's his capitalism. He's standing for these rye guys.

[Duncan]

How tall Is the person that took the picture you?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's obviously like an angle shot because he's not that tall, but it's a terrifying.

[Brendan Schaub]

He started as a wrestler, right? He wrestled?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah, he was an excellent wrestler. He was like, very, very, very, very hard to beat in jiu jitsu, too.

[Brendan Schaub]

How do you choke a guy? What do you do with that?

[Joe Rogan]

Strong, too. Just so strong and durable as. As a fighter, too. Remember we fought Chuck Liddell off, man. Yeah, he's adorable, man. Monson was a monster. Big dude, man.

[Matt Serra]

There goes Jimmy Crute.

[Joe Rogan]

There we go. I got to swore that someone had said this was off the card. I think they lost three fights.

[Brendan Schaub]

Mark Gard is. Looks like a sturdy individual.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he's a big. Yeah, he's a black belt. Yeah. Here we go.

[Brendan Schaub]

Here we go. Oh, boy, he looks casual. Casual.

[Joe Rogan]

Am I wrong in that Crute used to fight middleweight?

[Brendan Schaub]

These are big boys, man. And look at that. I think so, because that haircut is fantastic. I'm pretty sure he's aerodynamic.

[Joe Rogan]

It looks thick. Yeah, it looks thick.

[Brendan Schaub]

Looks like he's wearing Davy Crockett's hat. Look at that. There we go.

[Joe Rogan]

Jimmy Cruz been in some crazy wars.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

Come on.

[Matt Serra]

This one's not gonna last long.

[Duncan]

Snap. It's that first.

[Matt Serra]

That first touch. I think you have heavyweights next, right? You got Toffa and the new kid who's undefeated.

[Joe Rogan]

Man, the heavyweight division is so shallow. I was just thinking that the other day, because if they don't make Jon Jones versus Tom Aspinall, what is compelling?

[Matt Serra]

Nothing.

[Joe Rogan]

Unless they bring Francis back. Unless the PFL collapses and. And he gets released. Oh, boy. Oh, that's when we landed on top. That's a big up.

[Duncan]

Oh, it's like starting to fight for a mount. Look at this.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he's got the net.

[Duncan]

The only way he gets this is if he gives it to him. If he wants out.

[Joe Rogan]

This is a terrible position for.

[Duncan]

Dude, how's your elbow escape doing, pal?

[Joe Rogan]

Wow.

[Duncan]

Come on, man. Get those hips movement. Yeah, dude. Incredible early on.

[Joe Rogan]

He's got.

[Duncan]

He's got a good top game, too.

[Matt Serra]

When he is visualizing his head before the fight, he probably didn't visualize this.

[Joe Rogan]

No. Good. Good pressure there with that right bicep, too. Good pressure under the tattoo.

[Brendan Schaub]

Hell of a tattoo. Jeez. I think his arm looks.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he's hitting some hard shots.

[Duncan]

Oh, look at this. Get that smothering shoulder pressure. Smothering.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at that arm triangle. Look at that arm triangle.

[Duncan]

Yeah, that's some Good pressure. He could get his way to three.

[Joe Rogan]

These are hard left hands too, and they're not getting blocked. Like he's getting some good power in this. He doesn't like it.

[Duncan]

Oh, I don't think he's got any answers.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's called manicuring the target.

[Duncan]

Once you see this.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, oh, he's going under. He's going under.

[Duncan]

He's looking for Kimura.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he's looking for anything.

[Duncan]

He's got good control pressure. He's controlling the hips.

[Joe Rogan]

He's spinning to the back. After this, he might check a darth. He might take a dart. Yeah, yeah. Anaconda. Here he goes. Oh, here he goes.

[Duncan]

All right, all right.

[Matt Serra]

The kid's aware.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's see. He's aware. He's got a guard pummeled. Yeah, he's getting pummeled.

[Matt Serra]

Rape choke.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's go.

[Matt Serra]

Did they still call it the rape joke?

[Joe Rogan]

They got mad at me for calling. I told me not call it that anymore.

[Matt Serra]

What do you call? It's the Vanderly Silver.

[Joe Rogan]

I know. That's what we used to call it. We used to call it. The problem is that we in training we would call it the racetrack. And then I said it in competition. We lost this fight. Canceled some away management issue.

[Matt Serra]

That guy's fired.

[Joe Rogan]

That was the only one. Oh, that's the one we lost today. That today's. Oh, yeah.

[Duncan]

He can go to three quarters here too.

[Matt Serra]

So if we're not called the rape truck, what should we refer to it as? They call it Joe.

[Joe Rogan]

They didn't give me a name. I said, it doesn't really have another name. And then someone said, you should call it the Eagle Claw. I'm like, shut the. Shut the up. I guess you call it like a.

[Duncan]

Look at this.

[Brendan Schaub]

Damn it.

[Joe Rogan]

God. Flowing.

[Duncan]

It's flowing.

[Joe Rogan]

Big elbow.

[Matt Serra]

He's beating this.

[Duncan]

It's smart than diving for the back and ended up on bottom.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, he's also taking advantage of the dude exploded. And then he pummels him with a couple of elos when he's nosy. Trying to relax a little.

[Matt Serra]

Kids could be exhausted. Exhausted.

[Joe Rogan]

100. He's already exhausted. He had to explode to try to get to that position. It didn't work. And now he's demoralized. He's too flat.

[Duncan]

He's gonna threaten the Kimura again. Let's go.

[Joe Rogan]

Not much time to work, but he's got such dominant position. I'd like to see him soften him up some more.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, more damage.

[Joe Rogan]

Try to move to him.

[Matt Serra]

He's trying to get the mount.

[Joe Rogan]

He's gonna push that.

[Duncan]

He's looking. Or he gets back to more from there.

[Joe Rogan]

Or I can take the back.

[Duncan]

There's a nice Kamora guard pass from there. Kamora half guard pass.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh. Oh, he just.

[Duncan]

That's good.

[Joe Rogan]

He has full control. He's.

[Duncan]

He's fully confident this round's ending on top.

[Joe Rogan]

The way he rode him right there, that's like I could just do this all night long. That was like, no worry about losing position. He just got to get out of that.

[Matt Serra]

I assume a guy on the bottom. Those are his coaches. They're going get up.

[Joe Rogan]

But he's doing such a good job controlling. I would say get out of that half guard.

[Duncan]

He knows his escape rock routes.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Serra]

He doesn't have many options, but he's.

[Joe Rogan]

Using the half card to control him a little bit. Oh, he gets back up. Nice. Boom, boom, boom, boy.

[Duncan]

Landed.

[Joe Rogan]

Landed one, too. He's exhausted. Dude, I like this. 20 to go.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, no.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he dropped him the.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, this kid's having the roughest night.

[Joe Rogan]

Come on.

[Brendan Schaub]

You got 10 seconds. Come on. 15 seconds. Come on.

[Matt Serra]

I hope he goes.

[Joe Rogan]

He just looked up at the clock.

[Brendan Schaub]

10 seconds.

[Matt Serra]

Come on. First.

[Brendan Schaub]

First. We need a second.

[Joe Rogan]

Elbows.

[Brendan Schaub]

No, we need a second round.

[Joe Rogan]

Don't do it.

[Duncan]

Don't do it.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he's getting.

[Brendan Schaub]

You're okay. You're okay. You're okay.

[Matt Serra]

This be a ten, eight round.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. Ten, eight round. Where I come from, that's ten, eight round.

[Matt Serra]

And they don't throw out.

[Joe Rogan]

They need to throw those out more often, man.

[Matt Serra]

They're so stingy.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, how much time did he have on top? How much time you kept flowing? Beat him up.

[Brendan Schaub]

His mouth is closed. He's breathing. He's fine.

[Joe Rogan]

He got. Look who Brian's rooting for.

[Brendan Schaub]

I'm not saying.

[Joe Rogan]

We're saying.

[Matt Serra]

His coaches are going weird. Don't do that again.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, whatever that match.

[Matt Serra]

Don't do that.

[Duncan]

I don't think he landed anything.

[Joe Rogan]

No, no. That was a 10 8.

[Matt Serra]

It's a 10 8.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Full domination on the ground. Brutal ground. And pound hurt him standing up.

[Brendan Schaub]

Playing a turtle. Playing a turtle. First round, guys.

[Matt Serra]

He's a thick neck.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's got a thick neck. He's fine. His cardio is on point. What?

[Joe Rogan]

Jamie, he's not breathing heavy. 5 to 62 straight. Wow. 5 to 62. That's a lot.

[Brendan Schaub]

That. That sucks.

[Matt Serra]

If that's not 108 round, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's 10, but they need to do that more often because there's too many close rounds that they give 10, nine, and they give a right around like this.

[Brendan Schaub]

Damn.

[Joe Rogan]

I. I've been saying this forever. We need to get off that stupid boxing system.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

MMA has too many factors to just have a 10 point system. Doesn't make any sense.

[Brendan Schaub]

Why are they not changing that?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know. They should change because they don't know.

[Brendan Schaub]

How to kind of come up with an agree to upon.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, Doc, Doc Hamilton came up with a. Another system back in the day. He called it a half point system and he explained it to me and it made more sense like there was instead of like full points for certain things, give half points for certain things.

[Matt Serra]

Remember, the masses though are familiar with the scoring structure, so they confuse them more. That's PFL's problem. The smart cage. Suck my dick.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, well, here's another problem. Only three judges. Why? Tell me why are judges expensive? Get five judges or six judges? Judges have a bunch of judges because.

[Matt Serra]

They also shouldn't be ringside.

[Joe Rogan]

Sure, they're hard to see as long as they have monitors. They have monitors now?

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, but they can't get swayed by the crowd. Like they should be in disclosed area.

[Joe Rogan]

No, it should be five. You want to hear that?

[Matt Serra]

They should be in Ukraine.

[Joe Rogan]

You want to hear the Ukraine? You want to hear the guns? You want to be there while you being a drone. You want to like hear guys yelling at each other. You want to be like right there.

[Brendan Schaub]

Get an air aerial point there. Cruz got nice shots.

[Joe Rogan]

Because for you to say that like, well, I should probably be doing commentary somewhere else too. But no, you want to be right?

[Matt Serra]

No, because you're not dictating the fight.

[Joe Rogan]

That's true. But if you have a monitor but you know, looking at it.

[Brendan Schaub]

Correct.

[Joe Rogan]

But some of those guys.

[Matt Serra]

No, they don't. I would rather have you judge the.

[Joe Rogan]

Fight well, I mean, way better. Leaving is obviously going to do a great job. Ricardo Almeida is going to do a great job. There's a bunch of. Look, the LA card had great scoring. The LA card didn't have any egregious decisions. Decisions. There was not one where everybody was like, what the. Is that right? That's pretty rare.

[Matt Serra]

That's rare because a lot of times when it's so atrocious. Dude, you're talking about. That dude gets half his pay, you idiots.

[Joe Rogan]

I know.

[Duncan]

It's insane.

[Joe Rogan]

It is insane.

[Duncan]

A tough call's rough anytime you get it. My. My wife just had a kickboxing match over the weekend. Title fight yeah, she's 41. She lost a split decision. I gave her every round. I know it's my wife, dude. I'll show it. Sticking and moving combos.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow.

[Duncan]

It was a split decision. She fought a 26 year old. My wife's 41.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Duncan]

I'm so proud.

[Joe Rogan]

It's amazing too, because she got into everything, dude.

[Duncan]

She never. When I was, when I was fighting, she never threw a punch. Never threw a punch.

[Brendan Schaub]

Was she an athlete?

[Duncan]

Nothing in high school. Nothing in high school. Just a little Italian girl.

[Matt Serra]

How old are your kids, man?

[Duncan]

My oldest is going to be 16.

[Matt Serra]

Next month, so they did. And did they go to any of your fights?

[Duncan]

No. And they've been.

[Matt Serra]

They don't. I was gonna say they think the mom's the fighter. Literally know the dad.

[Duncan]

It's funny.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Those Italian ladies have genetic anger.

[Duncan]

She's. She's got.

[Joe Rogan]

They got a genetic anger inside of them.

[Duncan]

Yeah, they're strong. Your wife's Italian too?

[Joe Rogan]

No, I gave off on Italians when I was 21.

[Duncan]

Oh, you're funny.

[Joe Rogan]

I was like, I can't be dating.

[Matt Serra]

What is your wife?

[Joe Rogan]

Just a bunch of people. But yeah, a lot of Viking.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

This is a good fight.

[Matt Serra]

Be your. Your wife is.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's white.

[Joe Rogan]

She came off the Mayflower, son.

[Brendan Schaub]

No, she's on. She's. She's Irish, half Sicilian, half Sicilian, half Irish.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, she's half Sicilian.

[Joe Rogan]

Wife.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yep.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, Bilato's wanting a lot of good, solid leg kicks. Isn't it crazy, Matt? Like your whole career, did you get calf kicked once?

[Duncan]

Not once.

[Matt Serra]

It's a new trend.

[Duncan]

I'm so happy it came after.

[Matt Serra]

Did you get kicked in the. Did you get kicked in the thigh, though?

[Joe Rogan]

Not.

[Matt Serra]

Not a ton.

[Duncan]

Well, I mean, yeah, fights, right, Matt? I was good at catching it and coming with a ray, to be honest.

[Matt Serra]

I don't want guys to kick because you could take them down.

[Duncan]

Oh, yeah, I was good at catching it right hand down the middle.

[Joe Rogan]

But isn't it crazy? Like, there's never been a technique like the calf kick, where all of a sudden it came along and everybody had it and changed the course of fights and it's nothing crazy.

[Matt Serra]

Nothing crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Nothing crazy.

[Duncan]

We still don't know what it. Ties never did it or do it.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, they, they, they stand with that left leg light. Oh, is that because they don't have to worry about takedown. So they stand straight up. So they stand straight up and you see the ties fight. That left leg is very light.

[Brendan Schaub]

So they check it.

[Joe Rogan]

It's Just not good for getting taken down. It's not a good strategy unless you. You have elite, like BJ Pen type balance.

[Brendan Schaub]

These guys are banging, man.

[Duncan]

Yeah, he's coming back.

[Joe Rogan]

He's so, so rugged.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's actually. But he's also like, kind of like catching a lot of the shots off his glove.

[Matt Serra]

He's putting up a good round after getting dominated.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, and he's actually. Actually a lot of the shots are grazing. He's got.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he's landing a lot of hard leg kicks, man.

[Matt Serra]

Over it.

[Joe Rogan]

Look, he did it again and again and again. That left leg's gonna get chewed the up. What are you saying? Did you say crude's gonna knock him out?

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, I think Cruz gonna knock him out. Really?

[Matt Serra]

He's landing pretty flush. The kid's not moving.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, you might be right. He just tagged him with two hard ones.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, he's catching him a lot now, Chris. Just a better boxer. This kid's hands are down.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he's getting those low kicks, though, are brutal. Brutal. Oh.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, this kid is rugged. Jesus.

[Joe Rogan]

They're both God dogs.

[Duncan]

It's got enough snap on it.

[Joe Rogan]

Another low kick. Not good for your head, I'm telling you. He limped a little on that one. Okay. He don't like it.

[Matt Serra]

Nope.

[Joe Rogan]

He's trying to change stances. Yeah, his left leg's right now earning his.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, I didn't see that.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, we tried to do one himself.

[Matt Serra]

Himself looked like Charlie Brown, though.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, that was terrible.

[Matt Serra]

Okay, that's bad.

[Joe Rogan]

But it's also. His left leg is toast. Yeah, try spinning on.

[Matt Serra]

He didn't know. And he's like.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's like, oh, this thing don't even work anymore.

[Matt Serra]

That's a great round.

[Joe Rogan]

Great way to a great round.

[Brendan Schaub]

I don't know who won that round.

[Joe Rogan]

I think.

[Duncan]

I think the other guy's got to go for broke.

[Matt Serra]

He has to. Especially that first round. 10, 8. Even if you're on that last round.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's tired, though.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he's ahead one round for sure. At least one point.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Even if that guy got 10, nine. That's round.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So he has to. It could be a draw if he loses the next round.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, I don't think so.

[Joe Rogan]

I think cruise well to crude again. I mean, you just don't know. I think also they're in Australia. They're probably going to favor crude.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, well, Crute's catching him more.

[Joe Rogan]

He definitely hit him with some good shots. Yeah, he hit him with the more meaningful blows for sure. But damn Those, dude, that's a lot of damage.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's soccer kicking his leg.

[Joe Rogan]

How much does that count for?

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, I don't think as much as headshots judges. The judges don't.

[Joe Rogan]

Because definitely not as much as head shots. But, man, it should mean a lot. Like when Pereira hits you there, bro, it's just a few of those. And you see guys like, even guys like Yan Bohovic, who's made out of metal. That guy was limping like he didn't like it.

[Duncan]

He's like 43 now. How old is he?

[Joe Rogan]

Y is like in his 40s, but still top of the heap. People keep leaving him out of the discussion, but that guy went to a draw with Uncle Live.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And I mean, he. He's the first guy to go to decision. No, second guy. Bruno Silva went through decision with Alex.

[Brendan Schaub]

Too, by the way, that. You're right, Joe, that.

[Joe Rogan]

That.

[Brendan Schaub]

That low kick is causing some problems.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, bro, his left leg is gun shy as he slanted, like, 30 of them. He keeps kicking them.

[Matt Serra]

Yan's okay, because light heavyweight's pretty light, too.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I mean, just. People are sleeping on him. They're not bringing up Yambahovich in the discussion of, like, who's next. It's Yuri. It's these guys. It's that guy. It's like, you got to bring Jan into that discussion. And he just went through major surgery. He had a shoulder surgery. Yeah, yeah, he tore something in his shoulder. I don't know when he's ready to return. I don't even know if he's done rehab. I'm not sure. But, I mean, out of respect, I feel like you got to bring that guy up. He's an animal.

[Duncan]

Hey, Joe, out of left field, but with the stem cells, you. When you get that out here, do you get the IV or.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Duncan]

Yeah, because I plan on going to Columbia with my.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I can do way more down there.

[Duncan]

Okay. All right, then I'm thinking they can.

[Joe Rogan]

Do a lot, but it might. I don't know what the actual dose you need is. So this is what Brigham's argument is, that ways to. Well, he's like, look, we have an amazing results with what we can use here in America, and they definitely use more cells in these other places, and there's certain things they can do, like in Mexico and Panama and Colombia, that they just can't do here. The question is, is it more effective? Effective? This is the problem with it not being, like, legalized with the fda, because if it was and you could do in Mexico, what you could do here, then you would be able to say, oh, this is too much. This is the right amount. Do more than this. It's just like your body doesn't utilize it. It's like there's a number that you're probably gonna get to that's the right amount of cells. We don't really know. All we know is it works.

[Brendan Schaub]

We do know it works though. The settle the science.

[Joe Rogan]

I had a full length rotator cuff tear in my shoulder. It's gone.

[Brendan Schaub]

Wow.

[Duncan]

See, that's what I'm saying, man. I never had shoulder issues and now I'm feeling my right shoulder bad.

[Joe Rogan]

So rough on your shoulders. You think how many times you're in weird positions. But I need scrambling and your arm hits the ground.

[Duncan]

I know. And I'm still on the mat, so I wanna. Yeah, I want to keep the body together.

[Joe Rogan]

We can get you here, we can get you in here. And if that works, you know, you don't need anything else. But the other thing is peptides. Get yourself some BBC 157 or TB 500. That's. Yeah, the Wolverine.

[Brendan Schaub]

Travis. Travis Pastrana is talking about. He had a shoulder problem for two years. I think his shoulder. He did stem cells. No, he did a BP.

[Joe Rogan]

BPC157.

[Brendan Schaub]

He said that in a week it was gone. It was a. It was gone in a week.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, I had a knee issue. I hit you up about doing stem cell and I started that BC157.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

Transcend, dude. I don't have any issues with my knee.

[Joe Rogan]

It's incredible.

[Matt Serra]

I can, you know, I run to.

[Duncan]

Me sounds like a droid.

[Matt Serra]

You turn into Wolverine. It heals.

[Joe Rogan]

It heals quick.

[Brendan Schaub]

Dude, look at this.

[Joe Rogan]

And that's why it's healing.

[Brendan Schaub]

This is interesting.

[Duncan]

I need it.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, why are you using something that's not approved by the FDA?

[Duncan]

Brendan turn 50, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Why are you using something that's not. Why are you giving out advice in a public forum not approved by the fda? I mean, it's good.

[Brendan Schaub]

Whatever. Yeah, I don't. I don't like looking in the mirror. It just gets worse every six months.

[Matt Serra]

Just go bald like these guys. Prime for God.

[Joe Rogan]

All changes with rfk. If he gets in, I hope that peptides become everywhere. Help a lot of people. And by the way, this, this Wagovi, this Ozempic, that's a peptide.

[Matt Serra]

Yep.

[Brendan Schaub]

Is it?

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

GLP1 Agonist.

[Brendan Schaub]

Wow.

[Matt Serra]

I hope he chills out on the vaccines for kids too.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah, I think so. Oh my. Another low kick. Oh my goodness.

[Brendan Schaub]

So.

[Joe Rogan]

So that left kick, that left leg route has got to be up.

[Matt Serra]

I can't believe this guy's still even in the fight though.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a good fight.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's kind of. He's borderline winning this round.

[Matt Serra]

Kevin Ioli, he's pretty good at judging fights. Been around for ever. Gave the last round your guy, Brian.

[Brendan Schaub]

He did.

[Matt Serra]

He has it. 19.

[Duncan]

19.

[Brendan Schaub]

See that?

[Joe Rogan]

The thing is, it's like those leg kicks have compromised him so badly and he keeps landing them. Like Crute just can't get off. He can't move right. Right now. See, like even closing the distance.

[Brendan Schaub]

Scored there.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but he's. He's fallen forward. His left leg is all up.

[Brendan Schaub]

Scored again though. He's. He is. He is making contact with his head.

[Joe Rogan]

He's making contact, but he's like. He's limited to like one leg in his arms.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, he's still catching him.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh my God. He's trying to go southpaw now. Jesus. This is.

[Brendan Schaub]

This is rough, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

That tough.

[Brendan Schaub]

Way to make a living.

[Joe Rogan]

Loki has changed this whole fight. Another one, dude, he hit him another one. Soccer kicking that and another one, bro. It's just. He's relentless with that low kick and I love when guys do that. I want to see more of that, cuz it changes everything.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh my God.

[Joe Rogan]

Dude.

[Duncan]

Keep your tongue in your mouth, bro.

[Matt Serra]

Get that.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it just slapped him. Tomahawk.

[Matt Serra]

So disrespectful.

[Duncan]

Damn.

[Matt Serra]

He ran into the cave.

[Duncan]

Oh no, they're cool. It's.

[Joe Rogan]

Is that crazy?

[Brendan Schaub]

Was insane, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

He hit him with like a karate chop.

[Brendan Schaub]

Good God.

[Joe Rogan]

Jumping karate chop. I think.

[Brendan Schaub]

Crude. Crude. Got it.

[Duncan]

I think so too.

[Joe Rogan]

Who knows, man?

[Brendan Schaub]

Hell of a fight.

[Matt Serra]

It's close.

[Joe Rogan]

That could be a draw if anything.

[Matt Serra]

It's a draw.

[Joe Rogan]

That could be a draw. I. I would have to go watch the second round and not talk.

[Duncan]

Yeah, I think.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, back kick.

[Joe Rogan]

Honestly caught him with the toes though.

[Brendan Schaub]

Spent more time on top.

[Duncan]

And did he get a 108 round?

[Matt Serra]

Assuming a 10 8.

[Joe Rogan]

The back. When you land a back kick with the toes, it doesn't have much on it, cuz your foot gives great. So like when you land it with your toes, like that sidekick style your foot gives. Oh, you really want to land it with the heel like Jon Jones did with steepe. Heavy weight to do a spinning kick and perfect. Like right. You see his. We. We watched it in slow mode and watch his ribs cave in. Nasty, bro. It's like halfway into his body cavity.

[Brendan Schaub]

Rough.

[Joe Rogan]

Why is he sticking his tongue out.

[Duncan]

He was doing that for like 10, 5 seconds.

[Joe Rogan]

This is the last few seconds of the fight.

[Duncan]

Jab that, you lose your tongue.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's gonna be limping for a. For a good two weeks.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, yeah. Those legaches swell up so much.

[Brendan Schaub]

You took those from Gonzaga? That must have been fun.

[Matt Serra]

And the next morning at the airport, I had to be in a wheelchair.

[Brendan Schaub]

Are you serious?

[Matt Serra]

Yeah. I beat the brakes off him and I was in a wheelchair. He's walking around.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, leg kicks are horrible.

[Matt Serra]

The worst.

[Joe Rogan]

Remember Aldo and Uriah Faber? Here it is. Watch this.

[Brendan Schaub]

Watch.

[Joe Rogan]

Watch how deep John's heel goes into Steve Bay's body. Look at this. Boom. Oh, my God. Look how deep it goes into his rib cage, bro.

[Brendan Schaub]

You break all your ribs.

[Joe Rogan]

All of his organs just had to get compressed.

[Brendan Schaub]

You perfect.

[Matt Serra]

It's like perfect horse kicking.

[Joe Rogan]

You perfect. Spinning back, bro. It's such a powerful kick. There's so much torque. How deep it goes in. That is so crazy.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, my God.

[Duncan]

Oh.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh. Here's.

[Matt Serra]

Here's the judging. It's a draw.

[Brendan Schaub]

He won now, Crute.

[Joe Rogan]

One majority draw.

[Brendan Schaub]

Really?

[Joe Rogan]

Wow.

[Duncan]

He should have. That means he didn't get that.

[Brendan Schaub]

I don't care.

[Joe Rogan]

That's the 108 round. The first round. And that means the other guy won. The next two. Two and that's it.

[Matt Serra]

I don't think one judge gave it.

[Brendan Schaub]

Wow, that's surprising.

[Joe Rogan]

We'd have to watch that second fight. Our second round. It was close.

[Matt Serra]

Nobody got robbed. Like you would say. I have no problem with draws.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, no.

[Duncan]

We got the heavyweight.

[Joe Rogan]

That dudes are savage.

[Matt Serra]

That should be a cool.

[Joe Rogan]

Diego Lopez versus Yair Rodriguez. They're gonna do.

[Matt Serra]

Is that what they're doing?

[Joe Rogan]

That's what they're gonna do. That's what I heard. I think Lopez is that announced is coming.

[Brendan Schaub]

I don't know how. Yeah. Gets down to 45. That guy's huge.

[Joe Rogan]

Lopez, bro. Lopez sick. Diego's big. And Diego's got some papa papa power.

[Duncan]

Those fight nerds are on to something.

[Joe Rogan]

Steve Erig, Brandon. That's a good fight. Arce had a great fight with Pantosia.

[Duncan]

He did.

[Joe Rogan]

Real close fight with Pantosia. Real close fight. And when you know how good Pantosia is, that's super impressive.

[Brendan Schaub]

Who's Marafa now next? O'Malley?

[Joe Rogan]

That's a good question.

[Duncan]

I don't think that's. Nothing's been even out.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, they're just letting him have his victory lap. Now before they start talking about who's.

[Duncan]

Next, they should he deserves it.

[Joe Rogan]

But if you. You would want. I'd like to see Sandhagen, but he has to have a win, right? He lost to Umar.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I wouldn't be mad if they just gave him a shot, though. Hey, T. Lopez dismisses Yay Rodriguez rumors wants Volkanovski at UFC314. Oh, he.

[Matt Serra]

I think Diego needs one more before he fights for a title. One more, tough guy.

[Duncan]

What about Peter Yan versus Umar? Who's winning with that? Peter Yan versus Umar.

[Matt Serra]

Peter Yan looks fantastic.

[Duncan]

And he's. He switches it up, too, with the grappling, too. I love his trip. I love that front trip he does on everybody.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Serra]

Did to Peter yan. How many? 30 takedowns. Shot 30 takedowns, animal. You do 30 takedowns in this studio, you're dumb.

[Duncan]

It's one of my favorite moments ever in the corner.

[Brendan Schaub]

Peter Young's boxing is everything.

[Matt Serra]

Did you see his last fight after he.

[Joe Rogan]

He had.

[Matt Serra]

He had surgery and came back, bro. He looked fantastic.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you have surgery?

[Matt Serra]

We were talking about it, remember? You and I watched that morning. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What was he. What do you have surgery on?

[Matt Serra]

I think shoulder.

[Joe Rogan]

Damn.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's great, man.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, Sean Strickland, he's keeping the perf stash. I like it.

[Brendan Schaub]

I love him.

[Joe Rogan]

Do you think he had staff on his left arm?

[Matt Serra]

Arm sure looks like it, doesn't it?

[Joe Rogan]

It looked like staff to me. Do you look like staff to you, Matt?

[Duncan]

It's hard to tell.

[Matt Serra]

I mean, it could be ingrown hair.

[Duncan]

Yeah, it could be a ingrown hair.

[Joe Rogan]

Ingrown hair. That's what it is.

[Duncan]

It could be stabbed.

[Joe Rogan]

Growing hair becomes staff.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

A lot of times, folliculitis.

[Matt Serra]

If this fight goes past the first round, we're. But the homeboy on the right is a problem, is he? Don't judge him based off that body shot.

[Joe Rogan]

But what about Taffa? Don't judge him off of his body either. Ta can.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's Samoan, so.

[Matt Serra]

Doesn't count. He's Moana style. Doesn't count.

[Joe Rogan]

Taffa is a dangerous fellow.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah. That's not that. That body's.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my goodness. But he.

[Matt Serra]

He's. He's 70. Undefeated prospect. They put him on here for a finish. Like, you know, if you're here.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

If you're third on the card, you got to go for finishes.

[Joe Rogan]

Yep. Is he Brazilian to share? Oh, yeah.

[Duncan]

Looks it.

[Joe Rogan]

Looks it.

[Matt Serra]

He's a savage from Brazil. Finisher.

[Joe Rogan]

I like a dude with an eyebrow scar, too. Both of them.

[Matt Serra]

He has a head Like a Lego piece, right?

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah. I mean, somehow he's a problem, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

Is Mark Hunt really fighting Ben Rothwell in bare knuckle fighting? That's what I heard in bkfc. Yeah. You see Ben Rockwell? Do you see his ko?

[Matt Serra]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my goodness.

[Duncan]

That was cool.

[Joe Rogan]

He's one beautiful punch.

[Matt Serra]

He's built for bkfc.

[Joe Rogan]

He's an asshole animal, too. That's a big too. Rothwell responds to Mark Hunt's call. Out. Let's go.

[Brendan Schaub]

Jesus.

[Matt Serra]

I'd watch that.

[Joe Rogan]

Perfect. Why do they have to, like, give you an asterisk? So, like, pretend this doesn't have a U there. Why do they do that? That's so stupid. Silly. Damn, this dude's big.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah. Big long prospect.

[Joe Rogan]

What's his weight?

[Duncan]

How tall is.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my goodness.

[Brendan Schaub]

All the weight.

[Joe Rogan]

How's his ground game, cuz? 6, 7, 2 6. Wow. Or 6 foot 286 foot 6, 7, 2 6.

[Duncan]

Dude. I could walk between his legs.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. That dude that Francis beat up in. In Bellator.

[Matt Serra]

That guy was scary.

[Joe Rogan]

That guy was scary.

[Duncan]

How old is Francis now?

[Joe Rogan]

He's got to be 37, 49.

[Duncan]

Oh, he's only 37.

[Joe Rogan]

What did he say?

[Matt Serra]

49? You never know know.

[Brendan Schaub]

You never know. It doesn't matter.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, dudes from Cuba, like, they've always said, Yoel's 50. Yeah, the old guys.

[Duncan]

You what is that the league? Are you with that? Yeah, talk to me.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, I'm coming to it for him.

[Duncan]

Oh, is it legit?

[Joe Rogan]

It's legit.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So they're throwing a lot of money around, right?

[Matt Serra]

Throwing a lot of money around.

[Joe Rogan]

Is that how they got guys like Wideman, all these guys to come out of retirement?

[Duncan]

Longo's coaching.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, Long Go's coaching. Kane Velasquez coaching. Javier Mendez.

[Joe Rogan]

Who's fighting. What are the. What are the people that are fighting?

[Matt Serra]

The main fight that. That I'm talking hold is Danis, Tony Ferguson.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God. Shogun's back. Fabrizio Verdum is back. I thought Fabrizio retired there a lot of people retired, right? They decided.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Coaxed them in with the money.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

This is their first card.

[Matt Serra]

No, this is the. That's the Brazilian team. So there's six teams. New York, Miami, LA, Sao Paulo, Abu Dhabi and, like, did.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow.

[Duncan]

What about. What about Wy? Dude, you got what I'm laughing at. Wyman retiring. And then all a sudden, the next day you see him on his.

[Joe Rogan]

Hey, you know.

[Matt Serra]

You know, I love about it. Longo picked Weidman second. Wideman Goes, what the.

[Joe Rogan]

Who'd he picked first?

[Matt Serra]

I want to say Kevin lee.

[Joe Rogan]

Anthony Pettis vs. Jeremy Stevens is wild. Oh, my God. Hector Lombard and YO Romero. The Battle of Cuba.

[Brendan Schaub]

They used to train together.

[Matt Serra]

They're on the same team, but, oh, my goodness, the Miami roster.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Where's the guy getting all the money? I'm gonna tell you something. Marlon Morise. At one point in time, I thought he was the man. I thought when he knocked out Aljo, I was like, oh, my God. He might be. The guy was a rough start for.

[Duncan]

Him and Marab too, with that fight. The crazy thing about that is, how.

[Joe Rogan]

About Sahudo he a hudo up in the first round?

[Duncan]

Oh, I remember. Remember that? Yeah. But my Rob was so wild because at the same round, almost. It almost stopped. Got stopped because Rob switched it around. And beating the crap out of him by the end of it.

[Joe Rogan]

Gay guard Man Gagar is the guy that people have been sleeping.

[Matt Serra]

He still has a lot of fights. He got out of his PFL Bellator contract to fight any fights.

[Joe Rogan]

Why couldn't he fight him?

[Matt Serra]

He couldn't find anyone. So they're talking about gay guard Luke Rockhold. That'd be a dope fight.

[Joe Rogan]

Could they not get hit so someone to fight him or they.

[Matt Serra]

They didn't want to pay? They don't want to pay because he had a high contract. So they let him go, bro.

[Duncan]

I just had Kats and Gano down at the school doing a seminar.

[Matt Serra]

She's great.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's great.

[Duncan]

Yeah, she did a great seminar.

[Matt Serra]

But when you think about all. All the leagues, it's. It's the same business model as anything. You get the casuals in with the huge names with, like, Woodley, you know, Shogun Machado. People pay attention. And then you have the young guys like Kevin Lee. You got Sage Northcut. So you're hoping the young guys eventually take over.

[Joe Rogan]

I thought Rashad. Rashad said he wasn't signed up to it.

[Matt Serra]

So here's the thing with that. I was there. I was seeing Darren, the owner of PFL or gfl, text his. His manager, and he goes, he's in. He goes, yes. So he didn't have straight dialogue with Rashad, but he assumed the agent representing him, when he says yes, he's good to go. So he announced, and Rashad's like, I never said yes. Like, that's between you and your agent, homeboy.

[Joe Rogan]

I see. Yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

Let's try one of these.

[Joe Rogan]

What is dry? Is that your shirt? Drive fast. All gas, bro. Where's mine? Where's. Give me one of them.

[Matt Serra]

You drove me like Tesla.

[Joe Rogan]

I like those.

[Matt Serra]

But.

[Joe Rogan]

But I like the way it looks. What does it say in the back? Anti Electric Vehicle club. Oh, how dare you.

[Matt Serra]

Well, no, you can drive it in your.

[Joe Rogan]

You drove here in electric vehicles.

[Matt Serra]

I didn't ask for that. I asked for your GT4GT.

[Brendan Schaub]

Your electric vehicle is something else. I'm a little jealous. And I don't. I'm not in the car.

[Matt Serra]

But, like, I was. I was telling you, I didn't. My thing was I was so angry at Newsom trying to ban combustion engines.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

I, like, had so much anger. But now I'm moving to Austin. It's kind of leaving.

[Joe Rogan]

Good, good. Tesla's got a factory here. I know. And there's.

[Brendan Schaub]

I'm getting one.

[Joe Rogan]

Get yourself a cyber truck and put the fighter in the Kid logo all over. Just drive around town like a parade.

[Brendan Schaub]

Let's go, baby.

[Matt Serra]

Drive.

[Joe Rogan]

That will drive.

[Brendan Schaub]

You know I'll drive.

[Matt Serra]

I'll do that for you.

[Brendan Schaub]

Kellen, can I get the. A clip here? A clipper.

[Joe Rogan]

It's on the lighter.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Joe Rogan]

Where's the lighter? Who's got the lighter?

[Matt Serra]

All right. Did that work for you on the.

[Joe Rogan]

Back of the light? Did you get to work for you? The back of the lighter pops back and there's a clip.

[Duncan]

Yes. Thank you.

[Joe Rogan]

Just push it back.

[Brendan Schaub]

I'm sorry.

[Matt Serra]

Six, seven, dude. Dude. Six, seven, dude.

[Duncan]

There was one time in the airport, I took the shuttle over, and it was me, and I was talking to him. Very nice guy, Stefan Struve.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, he's the best.

[Duncan]

And then we started walking through the airport together. I go, hey, man, I gotta go to your. I can't do this. I. I feel like. Like a kid with his dad.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's legit, legit.

[Joe Rogan]

Seven foot. Yeah.

[Duncan]

Huge.

[Joe Rogan]

I ran into Mark Hunt at the airport, and I was, like, starstruck, because I love Mark Hunt. Yeah. As a K1 fan, I was like, man, it's kind of crazy that people don't know who you are and just wander around this airport like you're a legend.

[Matt Serra]

The hardcores do, though. They're freaking out.

[Joe Rogan]

That would be crazy if you fought Rothwell and Bare Knuckle. Oh, my.

[Matt Serra]

This one thing. Who the signed to fight Y. Romero and Bare Knuckles. Some poor savage.

[Duncan]

He fought a guy from Power Slap and he decapitated.

[Joe Rogan]

That was horrifying. That was hard. Remember when he just jumped up in the air for no reason and then moved towards the guy? Just like leaps. He was like, watch what I can do. Guy was like, what the. He saw him jump up in the air and he's like, oh, no.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I can't do that.

[Matt Serra]

That's when he knew he up.

[Joe Rogan]

He jumped up like one of them Masai warriors. Like, it looks like effortless. Like, it was the bounce. People just bounce.

[Brendan Schaub]

When he fought the grog hold, he just exploded. That's where he caught him.

[Joe Rogan]

He can close distance. Like.

[Matt Serra]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

When he knocked out Wideman with that flying Knee in his 40s, he sneaks you into, like, this rhythm. He sneaks you into a rhythm. He, like, relaxes you and he explodes on you. He did it to Izzy. He caught Izzy with a haymaker of a left hand.

[Matt Serra]

That's why Izzy didn't play the game.

[Joe Rogan]

Exactly.

[Matt Serra]

They're so boring.

[Joe Rogan]

You go, fuck. Fight that.

[Brendan Schaub]

He was getting kicked in the leg. Kicked in the leg for five rounds. They go, how's your leg? He gets up and starts dancing.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. He don't feel.

[Matt Serra]

There's no way this fight goes past the first round.

[Brendan Schaub]

Jeez.

[Joe Rogan]

No.

[Matt Serra]

This kid's a savage.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God. Nice kicks.

[Matt Serra]

He skips chest day.

[Joe Rogan]

How is his. Well, he's got to make weight. He probably can't put on any muscle.

[Matt Serra]

You can put on some muscle.

[Joe Rogan]

What is his ground game? Oh, my God. He shoots for a takedown. That's crazy. He's got a ground game.

[Brendan Schaub]

Athletic.

[Joe Rogan]

Does he have a ground game?

[Duncan]

I don't think Taffa does.

[Joe Rogan]

I haven't.

[Duncan]

He has.

[Matt Serra]

We haven't seen it because we have.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, nasty. Oh, we heard him already. That was an illegal knee. That was an illegal knee.

[Matt Serra]

Was it?

[Joe Rogan]

Was he down? Yeah, he was down when he hit him with that knee. I'm pretty sure with the new rules, he might not have had his knee all the way to the ground yet. We'd have to see it again.

[Matt Serra]

And it was in transition, though, so you're good, Right?

[Joe Rogan]

My first instinct was that was an illegal knee.

[Brendan Schaub]

But he's down first, Joe.

[Joe Rogan]

He definitely did. Oh, yeah, he definitely did, but elbow to the. Taffa looks man mad. He's upset. I think that they stopped it. Or is it the knee?

[Duncan]

It's the elbow that put his ass.

[Joe Rogan]

It was. It was, but that knee.

[Matt Serra]

But it was.

[Joe Rogan]

Here we go, Here we go. Here we go.

[Matt Serra]

If it's in transition, I think you're good.

[Joe Rogan]

Perhaps. It depends on how much time has elapsed right between the shots.

[Matt Serra]

Shot a high double.

[Joe Rogan]

So there's the knee to the body.

[Matt Serra]

Elbow.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, the elbow is nasty.

[Duncan]

Nasty.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a nasty knee, too.

[Duncan]

Boom.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my goodness. Perfect. Right there. See? Fully down, fully down.

[Brendan Schaub]

When he hit his body, though, didn't.

[Matt Serra]

You did the body, though.

[Joe Rogan]

It did it. I thought it hit the head. Let's see it again.

[Matt Serra]

This for sure breaks his.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God. That's insane. That's so good. That's so good. 100%, bro. 100%. That nose is gone.

[Matt Serra]

And then watch the knee here it hits to.

[Joe Rogan]

We'll see it again. Yeah. Oh, my God. That elbow is nasty. Boom. Oh, no, man. That's in the head. That knees in the head, is it? It looked like it right there. Am I wrong?

[Brendan Schaub]

Okay. I couldn't see. I. I do think that he was already covering himself.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, listen, it was all she wrote. That elbow was all she wrote. That elbow probably broke his face. Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

If you're tough, you can't be mad. It's not like that knee of the fight.

[Duncan]

Now we got the. The. The co main in Maine. I'm gonna use the head real quick.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's go.

[Matt Serra]

I hope Tatiana just mollywops her.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know, man. I'm a big fan of.

[Brendan Schaub]

Zhang Weili has been training with those two guys from the. That. That gym in Thailand with those two guys from Iowa. Those two wrestlers. They're brothers.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah, yeah, those guys. And what. What gym is that? Which one? Bang.

[Brendan Schaub]

I think it's called Bangtao. Bangtao.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah. There's not enough hours in the day for her to compete in grappling against.

[Joe Rogan]

Practice this, like, pace and defense because, like, if she can survive and then get into the third, fourth, and fifth round. That lady's an animal.

[Matt Serra]

Choke the out. True in the first round.

[Joe Rogan]

Look, it's gonna be exciting. I'm excited. But on the feet. Zhang Whaley is a monster. She puts on the feet. No disrespect to the ladies. I mean, with all due respect, here's.

[Matt Serra]

The thing about Tatiana. Her striking's not bad either, either.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, she's not punk. And she's tall. Tall and long. She's big.

[Matt Serra]

And have you seen what she does to girls on the ground?

[Joe Rogan]

Malls them. It's just like the early days of the ufc, when elite wrestlers would take people. You're the early days. But look at the size of that dude. She's such a big fella. Yeah, he's a giant, that guy in.

[Matt Serra]

The back looks like.

[Joe Rogan]

So that guy just rose to the top of the heap. I'll tell you what, he's a problem, but let's see what his ground game Is like. Because Aspinall is. Aspinal is fast as.

[Matt Serra]

He's a black belt too.

[Joe Rogan]

Black belt on the ground. O keep it.

[Matt Serra]

Keep it exciting. Give him a serial gun.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, you have to. You can't give him as right away from Tafa. But this is his introduction, right? How many fights has he had in the UFC now?

[Matt Serra]

That was his debut, but he. But 7.07finishes like he's a prospect.

[Joe Rogan]

So what we have now is some new blood. Now we got to get some more. You know who they should try to get? I don't know if he's out of his contract is Nemkov. Oh, Nemcoff was the. He was 205, right. But then he moved up to heavyweight. He. This Russian cat. He's good, man.

[Matt Serra]

He's really good.

[Joe Rogan]

Real good. Super well rounded all around.

[Brendan Schaub]

I'm very curious to see what Uncle.

[Matt Serra]

PFL took over Bellator's contracts and they're releasing everyone like a Sunday sale, so.

[Joe Rogan]

I hope it gets Pico. I hope we get Aaron Pico's a free agent. I hope we get Aaron Pico.

[Matt Serra]

I hope gfl gets him I off.

[Joe Rogan]

I hope we get it. He's wasted all this time.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

These other organ people don't know how good that kid is.

[Brendan Schaub]

He got animal.

[Matt Serra]

No, see, this is the problem. He had struggles and then won like nine in a row.

[Joe Rogan]

You got it twisted. You're out of the loop.

[Matt Serra]

They pushed him too soon, too fast in. In Mass Square Garden. I was working mad Square Garden. He lost.

[Joe Rogan]

He got caught in a guilty. He's won a young guy. He was like 20 years old.

[Brendan Schaub]

He was wrestling internationally at 16 years old.

[Joe Rogan]

Why are you yelling at him?

[Matt Serra]

And boxing with Freddy.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at that.

[Matt Serra]

Tai.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, man. Tai Tuivasa tried to drink out of my shoe. You can't drink out of my shoe.

[Matt Serra]

I did try to take a shoe with him.

[Joe Rogan]

It's disgusting.

[Matt Serra]

Put a loot. I threw up. I threw up.

[Joe Rogan]

It's so weird. It's like think of how much ass you've eaten in your life doing that. But that's different.

[Matt Serra]

It's a good way to put it.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a guy.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's the last thing I thought.

[Joe Rogan]

Here it is, baby.

[Brendan Schaub]

I don't care if you d I.

[Joe Rogan]

I love this lady. She's such a savage.

[Brendan Schaub]

Savage, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

She's so ferocious. Her drive, too. Ooh, she's big, too. She's gonna, like, immediately look big.

[Matt Serra]

And they both change playoffs, too.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

She's a hors dude.

[Joe Rogan]

A problem. Problem. So what injuries did she have. She had quite a few injury.

[Matt Serra]

Was the main one.

[Joe Rogan]

Was it a surgery?

[Matt Serra]

I think so, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What they do?

[Matt Serra]

I'm not sure. The fuse. The disc super bad used it. I think so.

[Joe Rogan]

My goodness.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yikes.

[Joe Rogan]

A lot of guys have the fake disc. I mean Aljo had the fake disc and came back better than ever. Like Aljo got an artificial disc in his neck and then. Then beat. He beat Peter Yan bad in the rematch. Manhandled him.

[Matt Serra]

And T Tatiana's thing is she won. Let me think. She won ultimate fight. I think 20 in 2016.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow. Isn't that crazy?

[Matt Serra]

And then she said such a long layoff because all the injuries.

[Brendan Schaub]

Did you see this Anthony Mackey, he's playing Captain America and he said. He goes the I'm playing Captain America. But he said something like basically.

[Matt Serra]

But he's not for America.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yes, he basically said but it makes no sense because America, Captain America is for justice and for fair play and.

[Joe Rogan]

All that cool move to Ukraine.

[Brendan Schaub]

Well, there was. It was a problem. It was a big problem, man. It was a. It was a pr.

[Matt Serra]

That's not my Captain America.

[Duncan]

No, that's not my. Steve. Roger.

[Joe Rogan]

Isn't it weird that they feel like they have to say stuff like that to keep working? It's like the movie studio goes not good for numbers.

[Matt Serra]

Now Americans aren't going to go to Captain America.

[Joe Rogan]

Terrible.

[Brendan Schaub]

That's what happened.

[Duncan]

Yeah, he's out.

[Joe Rogan]

You know who really up? Bautista. He went all in against Trump. Remember he did that video calling him a little and all his different things. He did the whole thing where he's working out. You're a little. Little. Yeah, you little fat. You look like a bag of milk hitting the bad joke doing working out looking Jack.

[Brendan Schaub]

Better to stay out of politics if you're an actor.

[Duncan]

Hey, did you guys see the new Superman trailer? Did you see that?

[Brendan Schaub]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

No?

[Matt Serra]

Is it good?

[Duncan]

Come on, man. It'll get your nipples hard.

[Brendan Schaub]

Really?

[Duncan]

Joe, did you see it?

[Joe Rogan]

No, I'm a grown man. Stop being such a lighter fluid.

[Brendan Schaub]

Who's playing Superman? Is it Henry Cavan?

[Duncan]

Don't tell me you're not gonna watch that movie.

[Joe Rogan]

I am not going to watch that movie. Really? No. I think Superman depends who the Superman is. I think it's just like living in space. If you were living in space, your your eventually your body would decay. You're com from a place with more gravity. It's not going to be good for you on Earth. I'm on matth train that when you get back to your planet, you're not even going to be able to walk.

[Duncan]

All right, hold on. Stupid Captain Negativity.

[Joe Rogan]

He can make the world go back in time because he can go so fast.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at him, though. He's cold and he's getting pissed.

[Joe Rogan]

But he's from another planet.

[Matt Serra]

What happened to the original Superman?

[Brendan Schaub]

Hold on.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you mean he got the guy?

[Matt Serra]

No, not Christopher Reeves. I'm talking about the last guy.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, they've had a bunch of.

[Duncan]

They're rebooting it.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like they do Spider man. They have like 80 spider man.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, Toby McGuire is my spider Man.

[Joe Rogan]

How many Hulks have they had?

[Duncan]

They. You know what happen.

[Joe Rogan]

Mark Ruffalo. Politics makes it hard to root for the Hulk.

[Duncan]

James Gun is rebooting the whole DC universe.

[Matt Serra]

James Gun's good, too. They try canceling.

[Brendan Schaub]

Superman is breathing and stuff. He's. I mean, he's bleeding.

[Joe Rogan]

You guys watch the Penguin? Yeah, this part's a little tough. I don't know how Joe's going to take this. Maybe. What's going on?

[Matt Serra]

Is he running through the storm there?

[Joe Rogan]

No, this is. I haven't seen this in a. Begins. It begins. Let me see this. A dog saves him. Jesus Christ. Hold on. Wait a minute. Is that a super dog?

[Duncan]

First of all, if you're not watching it with the sound, then you should just shut it off. That dog, it doesn't do it.

[Joe Rogan]

The dog fly. Lex Luther.

[Duncan]

Can I.

[Matt Serra]

You said Lex Cooper.

[Joe Rogan]

He's like, yeah, yeah, I have a Porsche.

[Duncan]

That's Guy Gardner.

[Joe Rogan]

Porsche 912.

[Duncan]

This hook girl.

[Brendan Schaub]

Shut up. Listen, guys, this is serious.

[Joe Rogan]

You like Zuckerberg with the bones, same energy.

[Matt Serra]

You don't know what the you're talking about. Look at.

[Joe Rogan]

It's got super dogs dragging him to safety. It's over.

[Duncan]

Listen to me.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at the dog. Why is the dog able to drag him?

[Brendan Schaub]

You communist. You don't like dogs. What the.

[Joe Rogan]

Why is that dog able to drag him? Oh, he's kissing that girl in space. Oh, you big show off, bro. He's taking that girl up in the sky to hang out with her.

[Brendan Schaub]

The dog's a bad choice, huh?

[Duncan]

You know what?

[Brendan Schaub]

The dog took me out of it.

[Duncan]

I thought the dog would be a bad choice. I thought the dog, but I thought.

[Joe Rogan]

The dog is a bad choice.

[Duncan]

I don't think James Gunn could do any wrong.

[Matt Serra]

I agree.

[Joe Rogan]

He's great. He's the man.

[Duncan]

Three guardians of the galaxies were phenomenal.

[Joe Rogan]

Phenomenal.

[Duncan]

He knows how to make you care about characters that you never heard.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't care about that dog. Fake Superman dog. Look in the comic books. His Superman dog.

[Duncan]

Did you like Guardians of the Galaxy Crypto?

[Joe Rogan]

The super dog.

[Duncan]

Did you like There's a dog. Did you like Guardians of the Galaxy?

[Joe Rogan]

I did.

[Duncan]

Oh, well, there's a talking raccoon. How could you watch that?

[Joe Rogan]

I loved it.

[Matt Serra]

Talking tree.

[Brendan Schaub]

You know what, dude? You know what? If anybody can make a super diesel awesome, it's James Gun.

[Matt Serra]

Did they try canceling James Dun for being mean on set?

[Brendan Schaub]

I think so, yeah.

[Duncan]

Did they? Yeah, no, I think it was some, like, tweets he did back in the.

[Brendan Schaub]

Day or some whoopsies.

[Joe Rogan]

But anyway, yeah, he was saying funny things.

[Duncan]

We're all looking forward forward to it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Except me, confused. I stopped rooting for the Hulk when he started wearing glasses. I was like, you're lying to me. No, no, you can't have the Hulk where he's got Bruce Banner's brain and the Hulk's body.

[Matt Serra]

No, he has bad eyesight.

[Joe Rogan]

It's supposed to be. He changes, and now he's this ferocious monster, and he doesn't remember what happened. You're saying, yeah, the new Hulk has glasses, and he. He lost weight and he got short. Shorter.

[Duncan]

Well, listen, he lost the fight to Thanos, and he became a. I'll tell.

[Joe Rogan]

You what, the 2008 Hulk was pretty good.

[Brendan Schaub]

What size?

[Joe Rogan]

Ed Norton and Hicks and Gracie.

[Matt Serra]

I like 1977.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that was a good one. That Hulk was awesome. Yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

Such a great.

[Joe Rogan]

You know the real problem, he was all right. I think Ed Norton was the best one. But here's the problem is the pants. The pants don't make any goddamn sense. How are they standing? I want to see that big green dick just swinging around while he's smashing things. There's no way he's wearing 160lb pound dude's pants. That don't make no sense. He weighs 8, 000 pounds. He's as big as a building, and somehow the pants cover his great.

[Brendan Schaub]

If his dick stayed the same.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at the size of them.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

That's the whole humans.

[Matt Serra]

Do you think those studios tell Mark Ruffalo they, like, shut the up, dude?

[Brendan Schaub]

No.

[Matt Serra]

No one's gonna go see it.

[Joe Rogan]

They don't care. They're all in the bubble. Mark Ruffalo, politics.

[Brendan Schaub]

I like him as an actor, though.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a good actor. Great actor. Crazy. They're crazy people. Yeah, they're really good.

[Duncan]

I thought Edward Norton was good. Edward Norton was my favorite in there.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. Smacked him in the face.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Try to keep him calm. Remember that got to make sure was his control ban wasn't bad. The. But look. That's smart. Hulk. Hulk is smart.

[Duncan]

She Hulk was a pile of. She Hulk was a woke. Pile of.

[Joe Rogan]

Was it woke?

[Duncan]

Oh, it was woke. There's a guy looking at.

[Joe Rogan]

Thank God that's over.

[Duncan]

There's one. Oh, it was brutal.

[Joe Rogan]

Thank God that's over. It's over. Over. It's definitely. It's going to be illegal soon.

[Duncan]

Here she comes. New champ. I'm calling it.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you think? Trump's getting woke. Literally illegal for a while. Did you hear what he said about Prince Harry? They were asking him if he was going to deport Prince Harry because Prince Harry talks about. He goes, no, he's having enough problems with his wife. She's terrible.

[Duncan]

Oh, he's funny.

[Brendan Schaub]

So funny.

[Joe Rogan]

Animal. They ask who's going to deport Prince Harry. Look at.

[Brendan Schaub]

Say what you will, he's still. He's a funny dude.

[Duncan]

Man, look at the focus in this girl's eyes.

[Matt Serra]

Such a beast. Dude. You just got to worry about the injuries, you know, if the neck's gonna rise.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. Where's she at now?

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, cuz she's fallen out two fights in the ufc.

[Duncan]

It.

[Matt Serra]

It's go time. Gave her a title shot.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. It's so hard to know if she can even get through a camp, right.

[Duncan]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

It's so hard to know with these people when they have, like, real bad injuries. And then after the fight they'll tell you, like, my camp was a shambles. I couldn't do anything.

[Matt Serra]

Why'd I bet on you?

[Brendan Schaub]

I had a broken foot.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, how about, like, Aspinall wins the title? He couldn't train. He couldn't wrestle at all for, like, 11 against Cyril. Gone. That's right.

[Matt Serra]

No, blown out.

[Joe Rogan]

Blown out. Tapes it up. Yep. Takes it up and decides to take him to the ground.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Takes serial and wrestles him and just show. Show that he's.

[Brendan Schaub]

Covington broke his foot in the first round. That was just a really bad break.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, but that's in the fight, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

How good. How good did Joaquin Buckley look against Colby Walking Buckley a pro.

[Matt Serra]

Is Joaquin that good? Is Kobe?

[Brendan Schaub]

Well, he knocked out what he did to Wonder Boy. Wonder Boy.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. He's that good. He's. He's that good. He's dangerous at 170 and he's got crazy cardio at 170.

[Matt Serra]

I still want to see him and Ian Gary.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. That was originally supposed to go down and then they swapped out.

[Brendan Schaub]

Amazing.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that would be a Real good fight.

[Matt Serra]

Think about Ian Gary beat mvp. Mvp.

[Duncan]

Look great again, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

MVP is the man that against Shire Bullet. That was incredible. 85.

[Brendan Schaub]

85.

[Matt Serra]

No, he wants to go up.

[Joe Rogan]

He wants to go into a fight.

[Matt Serra]

Erie. My thing is, do it. Make the fun fights like cowboy cerrone style. Do the fun fights, then come back. Do 205, then come back.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

You don't want to fight the big boys. Here's a thin 205er.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. But Yuri is a different thing.

[Matt Serra]

The style matchup, though, it's will.

[Joe Rogan]

It'd be very exciting. Here's the thing. On the outside, no one can touch mvp. You can't close the distance like he can.

[Matt Serra]

No one.

[Joe Rogan]

He's got that point fighting style. I always said that, like, that's going to be the next problem is point fighters, because they got that blitz, that ability to cover the distance. It's so fast.

[Matt Serra]

Knockout power.

[Joe Rogan]

Some of them do.

[Matt Serra]

Name one that does Wonder Boy.

[Joe Rogan]

Wonder Boy had a point fighting style. I mean, he basically started out in karate, you know, and then developed as a kickboxer above the leg kick.

[Matt Serra]

But then when he got to the elite level, he wasn't knocking guys out.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he couldn't wrestle with them. The problem, like Matt the Immortal Brown was the first guy to exist, expose his ground game. Remember that?

[Matt Serra]

His nickname? Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

He took him down and smashed him.

[Duncan]

That was his first fight in the ufc, wasn't he?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know. No, the first fight was a ko. He got that guy with that over the shoulder kick where like maybe second, though it was early on, went down with that round. It was very early on, very early on when he knocked out Jake Ellenberger with that wheel kick. Jake Ellenberger was like, making fun of spinning karate.

[Duncan]

Yeah, that's funny.

[Joe Rogan]

Making fun of spinning things. Remember, Hope he does. I hope he does. Try to hit me with a wheel. Boom.

[Matt Serra]

And then remember, Wonder Boy beat Robert Whitaker at 170. And then Robert Whitaker.

[Joe Rogan]

Robert Whitaker was way too big for 100. He was dying. Just dying on.

[Duncan]

The boy's sidekick is the nicest in the business.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it's so smooth. And it's so like, it comes off the ground effortlessly. It just sticks you in the gum like a jab. His right leg forward. When he. He throws it that way, it's so nasty. Nasty. And it's so hard to deal with because he can do all the other stuff, too. So it's like. And he also. Wonderboy was one of the best ever at leaning his head back like a snake. And Then firing at you as he's moving backwards.

[Matt Serra]

See, I feel like MVP doesn't have that. Like, he's not landing those big shots like Wonder boy did.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's hard to hit.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he does on some guys. You also got to realize ufc, no, not KO and guys yet. But like, what he did aside Cyborg, it's a wake up call for everybody Alive.

[Matt Serra]

Cyborg was 77 years old.

[Joe Rogan]

He was 177, but he caved his skull.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

The worst knockout ever. I'll tell you what's raised gnarly.

[Joe Rogan]

Here's another guy everybody sleeps on is, like, who did? Like, so what were his losses? Who's mvp? It was Doug Lima was the ko. He kicked his wrestler. That's right. But Lima was the first guy to stop him. Yes. Because Lima started. Lima had. He's one of the most slept on guys at 170. He's a guy that I really wish had left Bellator in his prime.

[Matt Serra]

He's the gfl.

[Joe Rogan]

That's good. But how old is he now? We haven't heard from him for a while.

[Matt Serra]

No contracts. They just sat guys on the show.

[Joe Rogan]

37 fight, September 7th.

[Matt Serra]

There's still something in there. The tank there.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he was a monster in his prime. Monster in his prime. Remember what Ben Askren did to him? Yeah, Ben Askren just said, oh, that's cute.

[Matt Serra]

Molly whopped him.

[Joe Rogan]

You're gonna enjoy wrestling now. Who'd he fight? Diego Lima.

[Duncan]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Douglas champion. Diego fought in the ufc. Yeah, right. Douglas Lee was the. It was no disrespect, but was slightly better. Douglas was a Bellator champion. He was a beast, man. But the problem with that Bellator title was, like, nobody cared. I'm glad you're making money. I'm glad you're getting paid. I'm happy for everybody.

[Matt Serra]

It's like being CFL world champion.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

We got the NFL.

[Joe Rogan]

It's great. I hope you're getting paid. That's the most important thing. But after that, like, if you want to make the splash, you want to be famous, you want to have a legacy, you kind of got to make it over to the.

[Matt Serra]

If you want to say you're the best in the world, if you're the champion anywhere else, if you're not in the ufc, just not the best.

[Joe Rogan]

Unless you do the Francis thing. You go over there and they give you $20 million a fight, like, and it's a big you to Dana, cuz you still get to box.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, you get to box.

[Joe Rogan]

He's. But he's in a unique position. Like Francis's position is different than everybody's.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, he's heavyweight.

[Joe Rogan]

Heavyweight monster.

[Matt Serra]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

Destroyer.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Knocks guys out with one shot. Like he's always going to be thought of as the heavyweight champion until somebody beats him at heavyweight. You know what he did to steep a. And then, you know, know he beat Cyril Gone with a blown out knee and then just dip lips. See you later.

[Matt Serra]

See, I, I think pound for pound and we won't ever find out. I think Tom Aspinall is the best. I think.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, who knows?

[Matt Serra]

Tom beats him.

[Joe Rogan]

Who knows, if John beats him, John might beat him up.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, he could.

[Joe Rogan]

John might take him down and ragdoll him on the ground like, you know, John easily could.

[Matt Serra]

Because we don't know how good John is either.

[Joe Rogan]

And we also don't know what happens to Tom Aspen on the third, fourth and fifth rounds.

[Matt Serra]

We have zero because no one's gotten there.

[Joe Rogan]

No one's even gotten close.

[Matt Serra]

There's so many question marks like we don't know how good John is.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Matt Serra]

You can't tell me John's the best of all time or he is the best goat, but you can't tell me he's the baddest heavyweight on the planet after being an older steepe. That's not gonna do it for me.

[Brendan Schaub]

Right, right.

[Matt Serra]

Asphalt good.

[Joe Rogan]

Anything?

[Duncan]

Cyril Gone almost beat Francis. I know you can say the thing about the knee and you know, Jones just smoked him.

[Matt Serra]

We also didn't know Cyril Gone was a three stripe white pill. That's news to me.

[Brendan Schaub]

What is?

[Duncan]

So what is that?

[Joe Rogan]

Did he get that third stripe?

[Duncan]

It's mma. He's got to be able to say.

[Matt Serra]

Like the bulldog guillotine. It's like, hey, dude.

[Brendan Schaub]

I think, I think he might have frozen. It feels like he froze in the big lights there.

[Joe Rogan]

I think he also probably is not used to a guy that's that good getting a hold of his neck.

[Duncan]

Yeah, I thought.

[Brendan Schaub]

At that level world.

[Joe Rogan]

Champion John Carter caught him. Yeah, he caught him.

[Matt Serra]

I think John does that to him. 100 out of 100 times, there's nothing, there's not enough hours in the day for Cyril to make up for.

[Joe Rogan]

It was great distance management too. John just avoided all the big shots. The timing of the shot was perfect.

[Brendan Schaub]

I can see John taking Aspinall down very well.

[Matt Serra]

You're talking about the black belt who grew up in jitsu gyms like Matt.

[Brendan Schaub]

He took, he took, he took twice. A two time Olympian. That's not easy.

[Matt Serra]

DC's not a black belt. On the crap.

[Duncan]

I wonder how he takes off his back.

[Joe Rogan]

Right? Does he have a guard?

[Duncan]

Does he have a guard?

[Matt Serra]

I would assume a lot of big.

[Joe Rogan]

Guys don't have a guard.

[Matt Serra]

He's been doing jitsu in his diapers, man. You're talking about.

[Joe Rogan]

There's pictures, but, man, we've seen a lot of guys who are really good, and they're on their back and they got nothing. They have no answers. I agree.

[Matt Serra]

But as athletic as he is and growing up in that culture, your guard's not gonna be.

[Joe Rogan]

It might not be, but you know, you know more than anybody that big guys are mostly on top when they're training.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. So that's the problem. Unless you're a guy that's smart about it, like Fabricio Verdum, who develop. I mean, that's a rare guy who's a big guy who developed a killer. He's my. In my top 10 of all time. I always put in Fabricio. You got to remember that guy tapped everybody, dude.

[Matt Serra]

Top ten. This argument.

[Joe Rogan]

Top three of all time. Of all time. People forget him. They sleep on him. When they talk about. First one. First one to tap. Camera.

[Matt Serra]

Bigfoot Silva.

[Joe Rogan]

Tap. Kane. No K. Yeah. KO'd Mark Hunt. Flying knee. Remember that?

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Tap Kane. He tapped everybody. Tap. Noguera.

[Matt Serra]

The breaks off. Travis Brown in his prime.

[Joe Rogan]

Yep. Tapped everybody.

[Brendan Schaub]

Flying, flying sidekick to start it out.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Fabric over. Doom. Was a bad man. So good. Bad man.

[Duncan]

She's gonna get it down.

[Matt Serra]

She's gonna get it down.

[Duncan]

She's gonna get it down.

[Brendan Schaub]

I'm telling you. She's been drilling.

[Matt Serra]

Second round.

[Joe Rogan]

Head.

[Matt Serra]

Arm choke. Tatiana.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm excited to see what happens.

[Duncan]

I was thinking second round.

[Joe Rogan]

Tatiana looks big.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's big.

[Matt Serra]

She's such a problem. Wish I need that neck to hold up.

[Joe Rogan]

Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.

[Duncan]

She's been wrestling since a kid, man.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, but she's been a bang.

[Matt Serra]

What?

[Brendan Schaub]

Just saying.

[Joe Rogan]

She's been in.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's been wrestling with some Iowa wrestlers, bro. Calm down.

[Joe Rogan]

Here we go.

[Matt Serra]

Watch.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay. Watch. Brian. Who's your call? Who's your call?

[Brendan Schaub]

Brian going with. I'm going with China.

[Joe Rogan]

You're such a Brendan Schaub.

[Matt Serra]

America all day, you piece.

[Joe Rogan]

You know what? For fun, I'm going with Zhang Wei Lee. Because I'm right here with Brian.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, yeah, baby. Come on.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's see what happens.

[Brendan Schaub]

Let's go. Americans.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm going with the champ. Who's the superior striker?

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at her. Listen, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Dangerous striker. Whaley.

[Matt Serra]

You probably have A little advantage on.

[Joe Rogan]

The feet, but a lot more championship.

[Brendan Schaub]

Experience coming over peer pressure.

[Joe Rogan]

A lot more championship experience, son.

[Matt Serra]

They're both have a little ring rust. They both have them find a hot.

[Brendan Schaub]

Are you making excuses now, bro?

[Joe Rogan]

I'm just saying. But. But in terms of experience, there's no comparison.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, for sure.

[Joe Rogan]

John. Wy has fought the best of the best and had wars. I mean, she's had some wars that Yana young. Jake. Fight. Holy.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, my God. That was crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my goodness. Tatiana gets it right away. Right away.

[Matt Serra]

How's that Iowa wrestling you right away. I almost dropped.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my goodness.

[Matt Serra]

Called you a maggot.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God.

[Matt Serra]

I almost called you a maggot.

[Joe Rogan]

Look how big she looks.

[Brendan Schaub]

Why did you call me a maggot?

[Joe Rogan]

You know what I mean, bro? She. She looks like a 135er. She don't look like a straw control. She looks like a bantamweight.

[Brendan Schaub]

But Whaley's been working this position, believe me.

[Matt Serra]

Did the Iowa wrestlers help her off her back?

[Duncan]

Let's see if she gets her in the cruise.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's just gonna get go for that. Oh, Jesus, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

This ain't good. Brian, how you feeling? I feel like we lost.

[Matt Serra]

How's the communist feeling?

[Joe Rogan]

I only did it to go along.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's turtling for the champion. I'm very persuasive.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm just ready for the champion.

[Brendan Schaub]

I'm incredibly persuasive.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's see if she survives. So right now, we just got a squeeze. We got a top top pressure squeeze.

[Brendan Schaub]

We've been here before.

[Joe Rogan]

No shots.

[Brendan Schaub]

We trained this.

[Joe Rogan]

No land, nothing landed.

[Brendan Schaub]

We've been here. I sound like Steven ago.

[Joe Rogan]

We've been here.

[Brendan Schaub]

We. We. We work this.

[Joe Rogan]

Trying to work those butterflies. She's dealing with a.

[Duncan]

She passed that knee line again.

[Joe Rogan]

Different kind of person.

[Brendan Schaub]

What do we do here?

[Duncan]

For who?

[Brendan Schaub]

For. For my guy. For my girl.

[Duncan]

Well, see how she's holding on with that left arm?

[Brendan Schaub]

You know what I mean? I don't see gender. I don't see gender.

[Matt Serra]

She's not doing a big job.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at this. Over unders.

[Joe Rogan]

That's it.

[Duncan]

She got to float her up and back. That's not a good sign. Pass the knee line again.

[Joe Rogan]

She can't get out of this, man. She's dealing with a different kind of pressure. No, no, no, no, no. The person getting tired is definitely going.

[Duncan]

To be coming across the neck underneath to the far shoulder.

[Joe Rogan]

She's got to struggle real hard just to not get smushed here on the bottom.

[Duncan]

We work Those.

[Brendan Schaub]

We work those. That's it. Soften them up.

[Matt Serra]

She's controller by wrapping around the waist. But then.

[Joe Rogan]

What are you talking about? Her chest is compressed. She can barely breathe.

[Brendan Schaub]

No, she's okay. She's just holding on over there. That's it. We're comfortable, dad.

[Duncan]

Ready? She's gonna pass these butterfly hooks again.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but this is a clear round for Tatiana, bro. The entire round has been on top.

[Matt Serra]

And that is wrestling. She took it out in 40 seconds.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, 45. It wasn't even. It's probably 30.

[Duncan]

She's gonna pass that knee line again. Look at her stuff that. Look at that.

[Joe Rogan]

Look.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, looks stuffy side control. Set up the submission. Isolate the arm.

[Duncan]

She didn't even have to work for the takedown either, so.

[Joe Rogan]

No. And she could probably do that all day long.

[Matt Serra]

All day.

[Duncan]

She made it look easy, man.

[Joe Rogan]

How? What does she walk around at?

[Matt Serra]

210.

[Duncan]

Let's see a low pass yet.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, look at this.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at that. Come on, man. Look at this control, bro, with the grip.

[Matt Serra]

It's beautiful to see.

[Joe Rogan]

Moving to north, south.

[Duncan]

See, the problem is you got to kill that near side frame. That's what does everything everybody thinks far under that near side frame. It reclaims guard. It offsets balance. Kill that thing.

[Brendan Schaub]

What are you talking about, man?

[Joe Rogan]

The right arm.

[Duncan]

A right arm.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. Look at this. Yeah, I told you. This is where Iowa comes in it. Oh, she John lay up or John L. Is on top.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, she's.

[Matt Serra]

She gonna. She could use it to sweep her, though. Here.

[Joe Rogan]

She has.

[Matt Serra]

She has my butterfly girl. She can sweeper Zhang.

[Joe Rogan]

Wh's out. She's out on top. Oh, my goodness.

[Brendan Schaub]

What I tell you.

[Joe Rogan]

But let's see what happens over the next wild can happen over this next minute.

[Matt Serra]

You got a wrestler on their back.

[Joe Rogan]

Listen, also, she's stuck in this head and arm guillotine here.

[Duncan]

Look, look. Butterfly.

[Joe Rogan]

She's going to sit back and she's also. Oh, that's nice. That was nice. That was nice the way she moved around that. Oh, look at this. And she's looking to pass. She's going for head and arm.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, boy.

[Joe Rogan]

She can't get out of that. That butterfly, though.

[Duncan]

That right leg, she's comfortable as here.

[Joe Rogan]

Nice long legs, too. They're hooks so hard to pass.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's a pain in the ass.

[Duncan]

I want to. Let's look for an elevator sweep here. Oh, take the back under.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, she's trying to mount. She's trying to mount here. Oh, she might be sensing she's going to no. Tatiana might be getting a little tired here. She's never done this before, Right? Right. She's never had a world championship fight. There's so much adrenaline here. And Zhang Whaley's on top. A little discouraging, right?

[Matt Serra]

But she won the round, so she's pretty happy.

[Joe Rogan]

But still, this is like a closer round than it should have been, right? Yeah. John Whaley's on top. And she's on top.

[Matt Serra]

She jumped for that guillotine.

[Joe Rogan]

The end of the round, she's on top.

[Duncan]

The fact that she got out is huge.

[Joe Rogan]

Huge. You know, here's the thing. Like, we know Zhang Weili can do that for five rounds. Can Tatiana do that for five. Five rounds? This is a championship fight.

[Brendan Schaub]

A question, Joe Rogan.

[Duncan]

No, I don't think she's gonna take down's too easy.

[Matt Serra]

We'll see. She's gonna finish her.

[Joe Rogan]

We'll see. Kids, I don't like your attitude, man.

[Matt Serra]

My American attitude?

[Joe Rogan]

You piece of.

[Matt Serra]

And you want to move to Austin?

[Brendan Schaub]

No, no. Come on, bro. Give me a second. I'm just.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. You have to get rid of all your communist leaders that you picked up.

[Brendan Schaub]

Do I got to buy a truck too?

[Joe Rogan]

No, you don't have to.

[Matt Serra]

It's not for you.

[Joe Rogan]

You probably show. You should probably buy an F150.50. Just to show everybody.

[Brendan Schaub]

Carry it.

[Matt Serra]

F100. Tallboy.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Get something nice.

[Matt Serra]

American.

[Joe Rogan]

American sick.

[Brendan Schaub]

Get back into Jiu Jitsu or just wrestling.

[Matt Serra]

I just do something.

[Brendan Schaub]

Okay.

[Duncan]

You moving still? What are you doing?

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, do a little Jiu Jitsu.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

Are you roll around?

[Joe Rogan]

He does boxing too. Then sometimes he forgets who.

[Brendan Schaub]

No, I'm not. I'm not boxing.

[Joe Rogan]

Forgets his name.

[Brendan Schaub]

I got two.

[Joe Rogan]

Doesn't know his phone number. Hit sparring. Yeah, yeah, he's boxing people sparring a lot.

[Brendan Schaub]

Getting D. Shop goes. Hey, what are you doing?

[Joe Rogan]

Because I go 55 a thousand years old. Getting punched in the face, Fossil. Yeah, basically like.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Setting in Alzheimer's months earlier than it has to.

[Brendan Schaub]

I can't do it. I can't do Jiu Jitsu either because I get hurt.

[Joe Rogan]

I. Yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

Have trouble looking for 11 days.

[Joe Rogan]

You should not be feeble.

[Brendan Schaub]

I have a really good body under this. Take my shirt. I'm wearing a leotard.

[Duncan]

Let's see how. Let's see you get this take down again.

[Matt Serra]

Come on.

[Duncan]

Just circle to the right. Right.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, dude. There you go.

[Joe Rogan]

If she can't get the takedown here, man, this thing gets really interesting, cuz if she. She trouble her arms Are a little tired.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's hard to get close.

[Joe Rogan]

That's true. That's true. There's definitely a reach.

[Brendan Schaub]

That distance is hard to touch anybody with.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, that's why she's throwing a lot of kicks.

[Brendan Schaub]

She just doesn't want to get taken down.

[Joe Rogan]

But she is throwing. Oh, nice right hand. Nice right hand. Oh.

[Duncan]

Is the thing.

[Joe Rogan]

Get.

[Duncan]

Oh, she's got an underhook. Yo, she's strong. The hands are together.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Duncan]

Ready? The hands are. Are together.

[Matt Serra]

Come on, Matthew.

[Brendan Schaub]

Ar just.

[Matt Serra]

She's taking a breath, and we're going for a ride.

[Joe Rogan]

Yo, Zhang Wei le's a little powerhouse, man.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's a powerhouse. She's pushing that head down.

[Joe Rogan]

She's a little. This is impressive.

[Brendan Schaub]

Crossface.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, she gets. Oh. Oh, my goodness. Look at this. On top of. Oh, my goodness. This is huge. This is huge.

[Duncan]

Use that on the hook. Not see.

[Matt Serra]

Hopefully she gets spiked on her neck.

[Brendan Schaub]

That's got to be. That's got to be very frustrating.

[Duncan]

I love the escape from here for the under. It's one of my favorite ways out.

[Joe Rogan]

She keeps trying to mount. I don't know if that's when you.

[Duncan]

Go to sweep the guild.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. It's like you're putting your legs in jeopardy when you're trying to mount all the time, but when you put yourself.

[Duncan]

In deep here, if you put them right on top of you. That worked for Nagara and pride and.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, she's almost slicing through. She's almost slicing through. She's almost slicing through. Pressure. See, this is the thing, too. She can do this all day long. Her gas tank is limitless, man.

[Duncan]

Dude, the right. She's. She's so ferocious now.

[Matt Serra]

She just keeps going.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at this, though, man. Slick. Yeah, Strong, too. Powerful.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at this.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, big elbows. Oh, big shots.

[Brendan Schaub]

Ow, ow, ow, ow.

[Duncan]

Ah, the corn rolls are taking all that.

[Brendan Schaub]

That's why you.

[Joe Rogan]

Bro.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at this.

[Joe Rogan]

Got a guillotine.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, my God.

[Duncan]

It could be elbow off. She don't have it.

[Joe Rogan]

She don't have it. She's just going to explode to.

[Duncan]

I'm wondering if she's just expending a.

[Joe Rogan]

Lot of elbows right here. Elbows on the right side. Get that arm free. Her hands are closed.

[Matt Serra]

She's gonna take her down again, but she'll step over.

[Duncan]

He's got to get it with the control.

[Joe Rogan]

But this is a lot of energy.

[Matt Serra]

Unless you're maram.

[Joe Rogan]

And also, Zhang is way more like marab. Like, that lady can go.

[Brendan Schaub]

She just keeps going.

[Joe Rogan]

She's a machine. Oh, look at that Knee to the body. Dude, that's a nasty knee to the body body. And she's free. 100% man. Battle tested made a difference.

[Duncan]

Come on.

[Matt Serra]

Tatina is not breathing that hard.

[Joe Rogan]

She looks all right.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at that sidekick.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, oh. Nice right hand. Oh my goodness. Nice right hand.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, boy. This is deep water for.

[Joe Rogan]

For.

[Brendan Schaub]

I mean, this is deep water.

[Joe Rogan]

Halfway through the second round, bro. This is a frantic pace though.

[Duncan]

Can I remind you that she beat cancer? Can I.

[Joe Rogan]

That's right.

[Duncan]

This girl's a warrior.

[Brendan Schaub]

I like that you whispered that. No, I'm not.

[Duncan]

I love.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, all the winging shots John is just throwing from the out.

[Matt Serra]

Clipped with the coming set up the takedown. Tatiana, I was about to say God zombies.

[Duncan]

Double a straight zombie.

[Brendan Schaub]

Well, you go to your happy place when you're kind of tired and getting rocked.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, this is where she wants to be for sure.

[Matt Serra]

Against the cage, sure.

[Brendan Schaub]

But there's not she not doing anything.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, she just can't. I mean Zhang Weili's, I think surprising her with the takedown defense and just the physicality.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's been working her wrestling.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at the physicality, son.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

And she's been so strong and fit. Look at this. Again. Look at this. Turned it around, man. Again. This is huge. So she's got this round.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, she's winning this round.

[Joe Rogan]

So it's 11 now.

[Duncan]

Making it exciting.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's 1 1.

[Matt Serra]

And if I was betting on this, I would.

[Joe Rogan]

It's tough to back to China.

[Matt Serra]

Better get.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, she's got to get busy.

[Matt Serra]

Another one for China.

[Duncan]

She would have had that.

[Joe Rogan]

The fact that Zhang Weili is able to keep her on her back back is very impressive. Very, very impressive. Especially when Tatiana's so good at those butterflies and elevating people. It's good.

[Brendan Schaub]

But she's been working nothing but wrestling. She knew she was going to deal with this.

[Matt Serra]

We all knew she was gonna do.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, but, but somebody who like this is that her learning curve?

[Joe Rogan]

I bet Tatiana did not think she was going to spend a lot of time on her back. No, I bet she did not anticipate that Zhang Weili was going to be able to do this to her. Especially in the scrambles, Tatiana's been dominant in the top position right over everybody, everybody to get take. And then also like a second round, grueling pace of a five round fight. And in the second round you're getting mauled. That's not a good feeling.

[Duncan]

She got that wrestling grit.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's go. You know, America, I'm back On the Team America. Yeah, I'm back. Yeah. I wish I bet money that I'd be hoping I'd lose it.

[Brendan Schaub]

Listen, you. You. You chose.

[Joe Rogan]

I did.

[Brendan Schaub]

Chang Weili.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I chose changing champion because it's just there's a big difference in stepping up and fighting a champion like this when you've been dominating ladies that are of a lesser caliber. I mean, John Whaley's complete, and now you're seeing it. And also Tank. She's a tank of a lady.

[Duncan]

All right, we got one and one.

[Joe Rogan]

Right now, it's all about the tide, boys. Once the Turbo takes you out to sea, even though if you're only 100 yards from the shore, it's going to the wrong direction.

[Brendan Schaub]

I think it's very demonstration demoralizing. What? Your go to move is not working right?

[Joe Rogan]

You're wrestling my friend Matt here.

[Matt Serra]

She beat cancer, Right?

[Brendan Schaub]

Listen, a lot of respect. I'm just saying you're dealing with a different breed.

[Matt Serra]

Again, she beat cancer. You think she's worried about a Chinese girl?

[Brendan Schaub]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

Chinese girl's beating her ass. Oh, right hand.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at that.

[Joe Rogan]

That was a nice right hand.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's rugged, though.

[Joe Rogan]

But look at this.

[Matt Serra]

That's where it went.

[Joe Rogan]

So impressive. Just the fact that she's able to do this to Tatiana is so impressed.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's been drilling this.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at this. Him right here on the kisser, son. Look at that. Right?

[Matt Serra]

I watched one Countdown video where they had the. No, you don't even know the name of the guys.

[Brendan Schaub]

What I'm saying is that he knows the state. No, she was doing a lot of wrestling, and somebody like this. I. I do think it's one thing you're not going to beat her in wrestling, but you can neutralize the wrestling.

[Joe Rogan]

Hey, how about let Mike Beltran let his mustache free. Oh, I know that mustache free.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's the best.

[Joe Rogan]

Let that mustache free. Why you gotta tuck it in your shirt? That's ufc. Let the mustache free.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at her. Look at her.

[Matt Serra]

Look at this round.

[Brendan Schaub]

You're right. She's got a crazy gas tank, dude.

[Matt Serra]

So important.

[Brendan Schaub]

Fresh. Fresh.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm gonna have to sign. Make a petition to have Mike Beltron let his mustache go free.

[Matt Serra]

Let him live.

[Joe Rogan]

I like to see that thing, that crazy mustache.

[Brendan Schaub]

2. Distracting.

[Joe Rogan]

Shut the up.

[Brendan Schaub]

I'm just saying. Jesus.

[Matt Serra]

Why did they mix it?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, look at that.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, they don't like it. They don't like the crazy mustache for some strange reason. I think it's awesome.

[Brendan Schaub]

It gets in their face.

[Joe Rogan]

Shut up.

[Brendan Schaub]

When he's in there, he can't have dozen.

[Joe Rogan]

It's hanging down, might get grabbed. It's like a ponytail. Boy, you know what I just realized? We never had a woman referee.

[Matt Serra]

No, we have.

[Joe Rogan]

Who?

[Duncan]

There was that one. What's her name?

[Joe Rogan]

Having.

[Duncan]

Yeah, the tall blonde girl.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, boy.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's getting clocked. Oh, no. She's getting clocked.

[Joe Rogan]

How many women I can't remember in recent times, a female referee.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, Jesus.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.

[Brendan Schaub]

She just can't. She can't strike with her.

[Duncan]

Dude, that was a pretty hard shot right there.

[Joe Rogan]

Snapped her down. Snapped her down.

[Duncan]

Come on, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, she stuffing it now. She's stuffing it now. Now she's putting it on her. Oh, nice. Need of the body vision quest.

[Duncan]

Let's go.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at that.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh.

[Duncan]

Oh, that was a. Oh, this is rough.

[Joe Rogan]

The problem is the striking. The difference.

[Matt Serra]

Big difference.

[Duncan]

She's not setting up.

[Matt Serra]

Not send strike.

[Joe Rogan]

And it's also the pace man. Shang way Lee can just maul her in these paces.

[Matt Serra]

It's also Tatiana.

[Joe Rogan]

She's.

[Matt Serra]

She's not putting the strike into sh. Shots together.

[Joe Rogan]

So Kim Winslow there she is literally ruining people's lives. She said whoops. Oh, sorry, Kim. Bring up old wounds.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at this boy.

[Joe Rogan]

Tatiana.

[Duncan]

Just finish it.

[Joe Rogan]

Can't get her down anymore.

[Brendan Schaub]

She keeps.

[Matt Serra]

She does the same takedown over and over.

[Joe Rogan]

Impressive. That's so impressive. What Zhang has been able to do here, just to be able to stop these takedowns and reverse them when she gets some. So impressive. But it's like the physicality of Zhang Weili is just something to think. Look at that.

[Duncan]

One, two, landing.

[Joe Rogan]

Nasty.

[Brendan Schaub]

Great athlete.

[Joe Rogan]

Nasty. Yeah. I mean, just incredible conditioning.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, you ever watch her workout videos? They're mad, dude. Her strength and conditioning is mad.

[Brendan Schaub]

Brandon, you want to come over to my side now?

[Joe Rogan]

Look at her.

[Brendan Schaub]

No. Stand strong.

[Duncan]

We don't jump ship.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's like going to electric cars. You'll never do it, Brian.

[Joe Rogan]

If she wanted to have sex with you, you'd be very uncomfortable that she kill you.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, she might be my type, cuz I'm.

[Matt Serra]

Guys, guys, guys. I'm a fan of her. I would beat the out of her.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but you're £280.

[Matt Serra]

You just said I'd be scared of.

[Joe Rogan]

Her, not you, Brian.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, that's why I said that.

[Joe Rogan]

If Brian had at all right? And she's been able to stuff those takedowns and Tatiana is like hesitant to keep going for him. Now watch every time she not send them Up.

[Matt Serra]

She just.

[Brendan Schaub]

When she punches, her head's just off the center line every time. Time. She's.

[Matt Serra]

Z has some traps, huh?

[Joe Rogan]

She's a tank.

[Duncan]

Tatiana got that first takedown she did her whole career, and nobody ever got away.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's also striking. It's just higher level, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Very good. Very good striking. She keeps catching her. Yes.

[Brendan Schaub]

Tatiana just keeps moving forward. No, this doesn't work.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, the difference is the striking.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it's big.

[Brendan Schaub]

Much higher level. Much higher level. Entire level. Tatiana keeps moving forward in just one.

[Joe Rogan]

Line, and John Whaley has not shown any signs of deteriorating.

[Brendan Schaub]

Not at all. Look at that. Just stepping back, moving, waiting.

[Duncan]

I don't think that touches. Like, she's not even throwing that left hand.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's at a loss. She can't. She's good because she pays every time.

[Joe Rogan]

She keeps getting bad.

[Duncan]

See, that's the problem right there, the entry.

[Joe Rogan]

And when she does, look, she. The entry. She gets spun around so bad, it's crazy. But this is how strong Zhang Weili is, man. It's impressive. Look at that.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at this.

[Joe Rogan]

Impressive. Oh, look at that elbow. Oh, look at another elbow. Oh, my goodness.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at that.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my goodness.

[Brendan Schaub]

Champion.

[Joe Rogan]

Yep.

[Brendan Schaub]

Damn it.

[Joe Rogan]

Dominant woman, man. Yes, Dominant.

[Brendan Schaub]

Just a great fighter. Forget it.

[Matt Serra]

That kick's not it. So good.

[Brendan Schaub]

So good.

[Joe Rogan]

And again, it's like, you got Rose, you got her, you got Joanna. You got, like, the elite of the elite and this division, and she's fought them all.

[Brendan Schaub]

Her balance is perfect. Look at Tatiana. Her head's all the way over. She's just leaning a lot of weight on her front foot. Forget.

[Duncan]

Oh, that's what I'm talking about, baby.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a good shot.

[Duncan]

Finish that.

[Brendan Schaub]

Come on.

[Joe Rogan]

Great job. Duck.

[Matt Serra]

It's a good shot.

[Joe Rogan]

And she doesn't get it. Amazing. Two, one.

[Brendan Schaub]

That was something down, and then boom, boom.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my goodness.

[Brendan Schaub]

She goes low and high.

[Joe Rogan]

How about those? Elbows in tight when they're up against the cage. Those were nasty.

[Brendan Schaub]

So much higher level.

[Duncan]

How is she now?

[Joe Rogan]

Elbows.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

She's never been facing adversity. So now she's in the fourth and fifth. This is the big.

[Matt Serra]

We call this the deep waters.

[Joe Rogan]

The deep.

[Brendan Schaub]

I think that Tatiana doesn't have a game plan right now. It's just.

[Matt Serra]

Well, her game plan was a baller on the ground, and then that's working. Now you're forced to strike in the outside. You're.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at her breathing, man. Look at her breathing in the body language.

[Brendan Schaub]

She doesn't really know what to do, so she's moving forward and she's well.

[Matt Serra]

To fix the problem.

[Joe Rogan]

That body language is not good.

[Brendan Schaub]

Her head's literally past her front foot.

[Matt Serra]

Then you got this Chinese terror waiting over there.

[Joe Rogan]

This body language right here, it's never.

[Duncan]

A good sign when she's already off the stool.

[Joe Rogan]

Jumping around like that, that's a nightmare. This is bad body language. That's rough, man. This is where it gets hard cuz you've never done this. 4th and 5th.

[Brendan Schaub]

Listen guys, on the wrestling, how many times I got to take?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but it's also the striking, the chance, championships experience, all of it.

[Matt Serra]

Well, they're asking Tatiana to do a lot and she jumped the queue.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, listen to this. He was all American.

[Brendan Schaub]

Isn't that amazing?

[Joe Rogan]

Isn't that incredible? Fair weather, Frank. Thank you. She can still do it.

[Duncan]

She can still do it.

[Joe Rogan]

We're still with you, right?

[Matt Serra]

I'm staying with Tatiana.

[Duncan]

All right, let's go.

[Brendan Schaub]

I like your, I like your, I like your loyalty. I do, I appreciate it.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's see what happens in the fifth round. It's going to be going. I've been thinking Tatiana all the time. I just wanted her to win because I don't American.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at her.

[Duncan]

She's going in fe us now cuz.

[Brendan Schaub]

She know she's, that's exciting.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, oh, right. Oh, she clipped her again.

[Brendan Schaub]

Now she's stepping back.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, again. Like when Tatiana crosses the distance. Oh wow. She took her down. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Yeah. What America.

[Matt Serra]

Yo, someone said three ozane. Get the fuck.

[Duncan]

Dude, I want to.

[Joe Rogan]

No, not three. The first round for sure. Well, the first round she did communist get on top at the end.

[Brendan Schaub]

Bob, I'm just.

[Duncan]

Sorry, can I just tell you with this half guard escape, it's killing me. I want to show it to you right now.

[Brendan Schaub]

What is it hers?

[Duncan]

You mean if she uses her left leg, pulls that out, pelvis up and down, she's out?

[Brendan Schaub]

What do you mean?

[Duncan]

Like with her left leg? If she pulls, scrapes it out, okay. And she brings her pelvis forward into the floor, she's out. I'll show, I'll put Brendan on me afterwards. I'll show you.

[Brendan Schaub]

Really?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

Because once you get to your side, you're out with it her left. I, I, I, I, I used to use that when I was 2:30 getting out from underneath.

[Brendan Schaub]

I swear to God, Matt, if I lived near you, I would be taking.

[Joe Rogan]

If she had the underhook on the left side, right?

[Duncan]

If she has her underhook and she brings her forward, gets on her side.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Duncan]

Retract this arm, we scrape that out. Pelvis forward into the floor.

[Brendan Schaub]

But.

[Duncan]

But it comes out.

[Brendan Schaub]

But her. You're saying her pelvis is on the floor, but then isn't she on the. How does she escape from that? Yeah, you got to show it to me.

[Duncan]

I'll show it to you.

[Joe Rogan]

You would have to be in the half guard. But when you're in the half guard, she the where she has the underhook on the left hand side. She could basically pop her left leg out, put it beside her and and, and lean her body left. And she would take her down. She would look at this head and arm. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.

[Duncan]

From half guard, look at this. This.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's okay until.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, Zhang Li might get out. She might get all the way over.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But still she's cooking her. She's cooking her in this position.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yep. And she's waiting like.

[Joe Rogan]

She's not doing good here, man.

[Brendan Schaub]

No, she's.

[Joe Rogan]

This is not good. And that left leg is basically free. That left leg is basically free. Look at that. It's basically free.

[Brendan Schaub]

What does she want to do? Get her hips.

[Joe Rogan]

She wants to get to the right side, but she doesn't want to lose position while she's doing it. Oh, no. Tatiana brought her back to full guard. Nicely done. That's over now. That was what's gone. But that was close. But she probably didn't want championship experience too. Didn't want to gas her. Her arms out.

[Brendan Schaub]

Somebody cut her knee with a knife.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God. Look at that gash on her left knee.

[Brendan Schaub]

How'd that happen?

[Joe Rogan]

That's a good question.

[Duncan]

Oh, Jesus, that's bad.

[Matt Serra]

God damn.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's just mauling her. Pushing her face down, just. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Nasty elbows. Oh, she's so physical.

[Brendan Schaub]

Mark.

[Joe Rogan]

The thing about Zhang Weili is like her training is it rivals everybody.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like her strength and conditioning training is amazing.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, it's ridiculous.

[Joe Rogan]

If you want to get fired up for a workout, watch her strength and conditioning training. She's ferocious, man. And again, it's that championship level experience like she's been in all these trench wars.

[Matt Serra]

You guys still hanging off Zane's tits?

[Duncan]

Yeah, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

We're ready to buy Chinese electric car cars. We're ordering Chinese electric cars?

[Brendan Schaub]

That's right. Damn right we are.

[Joe Rogan]

I hear trying to get one of them Bam. Chinese Android phones. Hook it up to T Mobile.

[Brendan Schaub]

They have a lot of spyware and they take your bio.

[Matt Serra]

Did she take that down and down yeah, she did.

[Joe Rogan]

That spyware helps you because they, they. They give you recommendations for things to buy that you really want.

[Brendan Schaub]

That's right. From Alibaba.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at that. Oh, Tatiana scrambled. Oh, look at that. She. She capitalized on the scramble. Look at that. That so much better shape she can.

[Matt Serra]

Get on that half guard.

[Joe Rogan]

A lot of it is just being better shape, man. Her physical conditioning is like. She can push this pace.

[Brendan Schaub]

She's just better. She's just better all the way around. Yeah, in every way she's better.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at this side control again.

[Brendan Schaub]

You're dealing with a.01 percenter.

[Joe Rogan]

She's a animal, man. And Tatiana getting mauled off her back was not on my Chinese hanging off of it.

[Brendan Schaub]

Damn.

[Joe Rogan]

It's all right.

[Matt Serra]

Fought in like two years.

[Brendan Schaub]

You were all over her. You were like, she's gonna choke her out in the second round.

[Joe Rogan]

Me and Brian were right.

[Matt Serra]

What's up?

[Joe Rogan]

Me and Brian were right around.

[Brendan Schaub]

Don't.

[Joe Rogan]

My feeling was I thought this was going to be the toughest fight that John Wheelie has. Me too, stylistically, but I'm so impressed.

[Brendan Schaub]

Not when Iowa's in the house, guys.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it's which guys from Iowa? Brian?

[Brendan Schaub]

The brothers.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, those guys?

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, two brothers.

[Brendan Schaub]

They actually weren't. They weren't.

[Joe Rogan]

Probably find out they were good, but.

[Brendan Schaub]

They were like top 15. They weren't like, Iowa's are good.

[Matt Serra]

Be chill.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, but they had. They had a really good restaurant come there.

[Joe Rogan]

She her up with that elbow.

[Duncan]

You know, up until now, she probably didn't have to use a striking too much. I mean, that's what it must be.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

If it's not broke, don't fix it. She would just take him down and smoke.

[Joe Rogan]

She's beating her up.

[Matt Serra]

You know, in the corner there. You're like, I. I don't know. Man the shots up better.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I feel like you going to say set the shot. I feel like it's 3:1. All this, of course. So it's over already. Over. She's got to finish her, dude.

[Duncan]

That's how that happen.

[Brendan Schaub]

Somebody took a bite mark.

[Joe Rogan]

What? From a wolf?

[Matt Serra]

Look like a bite mark to me.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, it's stuck.

[Joe Rogan]

A wolf.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's a bite mark.

[Joe Rogan]

Che V. What the happened there?

[Brendan Schaub]

That's a shark bite is what that is.

[Joe Rogan]

How did you not like Nosferato? It's really just disappointing.

[Matt Serra]

It was all right. It was slow.

[Brendan Schaub]

He watched the Sopranos. He was like n bro, that vampire.

[Joe Rogan]

Is the greatest vampire in ever.

[Matt Serra]

He got a handlebar mustache.

[Joe Rogan]

It was amazing. That's what they looked like back then in two days. Yeah, it was awesome.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, it wasn't bad.

[Joe Rogan]

How about when he ate the kids?

[Matt Serra]

That was. That was a lot, right? That was a lot.

[Duncan]

Oh, that's going to make me want to see it a lot. Yeah, it's a great selling point.

[Joe Rogan]

Isn't it great?

[Duncan]

When he ate the children.

[Joe Rogan]

Horrible, horrible vampire. Yeah, he's horrible. But he was on top of the dude. Yeah. Naked. And it was sucking out of his chest like. Oh.

[Matt Serra]

How about when he stands up and you see his dick?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, Nice. Yeah, right? He's scary. Yeah, let's go. He was the best vampire of all time. He sleeps naked too, like all the other. Yeah, he does sleep naked with their stupid tuxedos on.

[Matt Serra]

It's ridiculous. And he doesn't have makeup on like those other vamps.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he was rotting too.

[Duncan]

You need a. You need another Lost Boys. That was a good.

[Brendan Schaub]

I just watched it. I just rewatched it.

[Joe Rogan]

You bring up.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's still, it's still hold.

[Joe Rogan]

Same sentence as nos. Right hand. Oh, she just tagged it with her right hand.

[Brendan Schaub]

It stands the test of time, man. I watch.

[Matt Serra]

If you guys are into vampires, you got to watch True Blood might take some heat for that, but it's fan.

[Duncan]

Six part series on that series.

[Matt Serra]

Well, yeah, great.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's a good show.

[Duncan]

I thought it, I thought it fell off towards the. I didn't like that. Bill Olson's a prick and he used to be good and oh, oh, oh.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, she's making her pay.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh my God. Even if she gets her down coming.

[Matt Serra]

At it, she'd have to get a finish.

[Joe Rogan]

It's take down defense the same, but.

[Brendan Schaub]

It'S the same move because it worked.

[Duncan]

Her whole career up until now.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just so impressive. Look at this, look at this, look at this. Impressive. That Zhang Weili can defy defense is wild. Amazing. Look at this.

[Duncan]

Still got those little tree trunks.

[Joe Rogan]

Still incredible.

[Brendan Schaub]

Unbelievable.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean that's so impressive. That's so impressive. And then free spins out and then you got to eat some shots. Yeah, then you got to eat some shots and now you're tired as.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh my God. She's coming though. She's coming.

[Duncan]

I like that.

[Joe Rogan]

She's animal going forward. Oh, she's a animal.

[Matt Serra]

I just want to emphasize she beat cancer, Brian.

[Duncan]

She did be cancer.

[Brendan Schaub]

Listen, all respect, God bless. Dealing with just a better fighter. It's very hard. No shame.

[Duncan]

That left hand's. No, it's not even a threat though. When she throws it, it's kind of.

[Brendan Schaub]

Know what to do. She doesn't know what to do. You're gonna pay every time.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, she's looking for the knee. Trying to catch it with a knee coming. Oh, right hand hurt her.

[Duncan]

This is gonna be a.

[Matt Serra]

Her entry's bad, but she's hurt.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you do? She's also older.

[Matt Serra]

This was her opportunity. She's gonna go back down the ladder. The division's not deep, but at her.

[Joe Rogan]

Age, one of the best ever.

[Duncan]

Oh, it's gonna be some learning on the job with the standup. She's gonna have to attack. She has to have something through threatening because if some.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at this. Look at that.

[Duncan]

She's even going for an arm lock.

[Joe Rogan]

Unbelievable.

[Brendan Schaub]

If that's. That's conditioning.

[Joe Rogan]

Yep, yep, Yep. That's just 100 strength. How dare you. That's your girl. One of them is exhausted, and one of them is not okay. One of them is a fitness machine. Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

One of them's getting their ass kicked.

[Brendan Schaub]

What?

[Joe Rogan]

You know what?

[Brendan Schaub]

I'm gonna say it. Zhang Weili is a better wrestler as well. I said it.

[Matt Serra]

MMA wrestler.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yes. She just is.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's. This ain't wrestling. How many times I gotta tell you guys?

[Joe Rogan]

She scrambles like a. I'll tell you that. Look at this. Look at this. She's got her.

[Brendan Schaub]

She shouldn't break your heart.

[Duncan]

She got a half God thing.

[Matt Serra]

You know why it breaks our heart? Because we're from here, Brian.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, look at this. Okay. This is amazing.

[Matt Serra]

We're from here.

[Brendan Schaub]

You're right. I'm sorry. I apologize. Matt, you got to teach me the. I. Tell me what. What's.

[Duncan]

Want me to show you right now?

[Joe Rogan]

On the floor? No, no, no, no, no. If.

[Matt Serra]

If you want to completely waste your time.

[Duncan]

Mad show, Brian.

[Joe Rogan]

He won't remember.

[Brendan Schaub]

I need it.

[Joe Rogan]

He still doesn't know how to throw a sidekick. This is. There. There's.

[Brendan Schaub]

So why are you guys picking on me? I'm just. I'm just winning on this one.

[Joe Rogan]

Come on, we're winning together.

[Brendan Schaub]

I got Sean Strickland.

[Joe Rogan]

Next together you got Strickland. How. I know.

[Matt Serra]

Now you're back on the American.

[Brendan Schaub]

I like Strickland. I've always. I love the way he fights.

[Matt Serra]

He's so tough to be.

[Brendan Schaub]

I just love this fight.

[Matt Serra]

I'm on the DTB train, too, because he's a monster.

[Brendan Schaub]

I love the way Strickland fights.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm all over those African nuts.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, me too.

[Brendan Schaub]

I understand. That's a smart money. But Strickland's.

[Joe Rogan]

Strickland an Animal.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's beautiful.

[Joe Rogan]

Also, he was funny as at the press conferences. Oh my God. He's always so good at the press conferences.

[Brendan Schaub]

Great.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. He don't see what he said about Palestine though, man.

[Matt Serra]

See, you think the UFC's I came in after the recent Bryce Mitchell stuff, he wants to chill out and he's like, you got it.

[Joe Rogan]

He went harder. Oh, man.

[Brendan Schaub]

I don't like when he's mean, but I do like his.

[Matt Serra]

He's not mean. When's he mean?

[Brendan Schaub]

I don't know.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he was for the Jews in that one. Oh.

[Duncan]

Oh, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Zhang Weili by unanimous decision, ladies and gentlemen.

[Matt Serra]

Four one.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah, four one. Of course. And super impressive.

[Brendan Schaub]

Ended up on. On top in the. The last.

[Joe Rogan]

The first round.

[Brendan Schaub]

This round too.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

So still lost that round though.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but not apparently. But not 108, you know.

[Matt Serra]

No, not today.

[Joe Rogan]

But like Tatiana was. Looked like she was on her way to a mall. All that happened was John way Monster.

[Brendan Schaub]

Monster.

[Joe Rogan]

What a. What a problem she is for top 10.

[Matt Serra]

It's tough because you're 31 coming off these injuries. You had your shot the title. You're not even close to the.

[Joe Rogan]

You got mauled and you spent most of the fight on your back, which.

[Matt Serra]

Is crazy good stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if she retires.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, who knows? I mean, she might have had a real hard camp with all those injuries. Oh, she's getting beat.

[Brendan Schaub]

I just think striking wise, it's very different.

[Joe Rogan]

And pound son from the top though. This is top control. Like, forget about the striking, which is amazing. But Zhang Wei's dominating her on the ground. Yeah. I mean, beating her up, you know.

[Duncan]

Who looked good with the. The Jasmine girl.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at this.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, she looked.

[Duncan]

She looked really good.

[Joe Rogan]

Two, one, punk.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, that was rough.

[Joe Rogan]

It was rough.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's tough.

[Duncan]

Yeah, she's. Well, her dreams are dashed.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's over.

[Duncan]

Oh, let's give the girl a hug. I mean, come on now.

[Brendan Schaub]

That's tough. It's devastating.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but man, I think they're hugging.

[Matt Serra]

A few, you know, it's devastating because there's. There's nothing she can do to be there. There's not enough hours in this.

[Brendan Schaub]

There's no game plan.

[Joe Rogan]

You can't catch that. That gap. That's a big gap and you're 31. So who else for her? Who else is in Zhang Weili division? That's compelling.

[Matt Serra]

There's nothing.

[Joe Rogan]

That's the problem. There's good girls.

[Matt Serra]

Women fighting right now is tough.

[Duncan]

Jasmine.

[Matt Serra]

Jasmine, our girl, the Canadian.

[Brendan Schaub]

What About Rose Namajunas.

[Joe Rogan]

She's gone up to 135.

[Brendan Schaub]

Damn.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Or excuse me, 125. She went up to fly weight. Yeah. Instead of straw weight. She's. These are. They're fighting at 115. But Tatiana looks way bigger than that, doesn't she?

[Matt Serra]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

She almost looks like a bantamweight. Yeah, she definitely looks like a 125er.

[Brendan Schaub]

Tough. Tough. Standing up with no problem. Look at this.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, man. That was a mistake. Yeah. Team. Yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

But she didn't have any answers. It's just. It's a.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just so impressive. The takedown defense. So impressive. And the. The ability to scramble and always wind up on top. Like right here. Man, that's so impressive.

[Matt Serra]

The difference.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's a great athlete.

[Joe Rogan]

So. Oh, just a tank, man. And also skills. Just. It's like you gotta. It's not just athleticism, racism. It's. She's doing the right thing at every step. Like here she. She defends the trip, bro.

[Matt Serra]

We were right.

[Duncan]

Oh, you guys are so cool.

[Joe Rogan]

We feel cool.

[Brendan Schaub]

We're the cool.

[Duncan]

And Superman's for kids.

[Joe Rogan]

Super dog can go. I was on board till super dog is a cat.

[Duncan]

You know what I'm giving up on?

[Joe Rogan]

Does the dog have a cat cape? James Gun makes no sense. So stupid, that dog.

[Duncan]

Listen, listen, You're a dog person. I love dog.

[Brendan Schaub]

Show me what you're talking about.

[Duncan]

Dogs do you want.

[Joe Rogan]

I love dogs. But that dog can go eat.

[Duncan]

Show them what I'm talking about.

[Joe Rogan]

I hope Super Wolf eats that dog. I hope they keep that dog chained up outside. Oh, the half guard escape. Yeah, yeah. Do it right over here. Well, right here.

[Duncan]

I don't want to get.

[Joe Rogan]

No one's gonna see. Someone else is gonna have to explain it.

[Duncan]

Okay. I don't give a. Want to jump on me?

[Matt Serra]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

How are we going to see this? No one's going to see it.

[Duncan]

No one's going to see. For you guys. We can talk about. No, no, because it's such a. When we're here. Got to take these off.

[Joe Rogan]

Brian, film this and you can get Instagram followers.

[Duncan]

Get on me, big guy.

[Matt Serra]

All right.

[Duncan]

Come here, fella.

[Matt Serra]

You said you have back problem.

[Duncan]

No, no, I'm good now. If I'm here and I. She had young dog.

[Joe Rogan]

What's that? No, it's okay. Brian's gonna film it. Brian, are you filming this?

[Duncan]

Sometimes you're here. If I bring my weight forward, he can't stop me from getting here. But that's what you're gonna do so from this position, even if he keeps.

[Joe Rogan]

The weight on limp arm.

[Duncan]

See my lower body? Look what I do with this leg.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

If I pull this leg out and.

[Joe Rogan]

Bring my pelvis forward. Oh, did you see that?

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

No, I was getting height. Now we both got high. I want to get this release limp.

[Joe Rogan]

Arm out with the left arm.

[Duncan]

When I bring that leg out, look how I could just get out of that.

[Joe Rogan]

Technique, my friend. Technique, you know?

[Duncan]

But that's such a I, dude, it's such a technique. Now I'm even shorter with my shoes. But even with huge guys, man, it's so good to get out from it's.

[Joe Rogan]

Isn't it fascinating? Just tech, technique, technique and just knowing position. It makes everything so much more smooth and sweet. Such a beautiful sport.

[Duncan]

God damn, I love it.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it's the best jiu jitsu. So it's like watching someone pull something off, that's magical. It's just like.

[Duncan]

Yeah, I know, dude. I get so excited still. My guys are just pulling off. Oh, yeah, Grown ass men. I go, you know, you get it. Because every time they get something, I'm like, oh, gold star, gold star for John Perez says, I'm like, you know, you're gonna go home and tell your wife you got a gold star. You're a grown ass man. And they do. I did, I told my wife.

[Brendan Schaub]

Excited I around.

[Joe Rogan]

That's why when people don't care about belts. I don't care about belts. Yeah, everyone does. Yeah, you do.

[Duncan]

Yeah, well, you know, it's like the time they put into it, it's like getting a nice pat on the back.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, well, it's also, it's like there's stages that show you you're legit. Yeah, like Rick Caruso, the guy was running for mayor of la. His son reach purple belt. I said, hey, it's a big deal. That's a big deal. You're basically a black belt. You just got to keep training. Yes. If you can get to purple belt, you can get the black belt. You just got to stay at it and trust the process and keep training hard and you'll get to black belt.

[Matt Serra]

Because how many people?

[Joe Rogan]

Because a lot of people get black, right? Because people get blue belt, it's like, you know, that's great. It's a nice little motivator. But you show me you got purple belt, that means you're tapping out legit guys. Yeah. You got some moves. You probably like one. Oh, yeah, they explode. They're explosive.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt Serra]

They have the Skills, they still have the experience.

[Brendan Schaub]

I think when I move to Austin, if I really apply myself by the time I'm 65.

[Joe Rogan]

We gotta get you on the peptide, son. You're around with nature for too long. Nature's boring.

[Matt Serra]

Father Times, I swear to God, Father.

[Joe Rogan]

Time is undefeated.

[Duncan]

With that stem cells.

[Matt Serra]

And stuff you're talking.

[Joe Rogan]

We'll do another protect your neck and we'll. I'll bring you in the day early and we'll get you to the stem cell place. Ways to. Well, no problem. You just tell me when.

[Duncan]

I plan to go with my buddy Abe to Columbia and in come.

[Joe Rogan]

Come to Austin first because we'll get it all gratas. You'll get it for freeze for freezies. I'll have ways to, well, hook you up and then, you know, we'll do a protecting.

[Duncan]

Let me know, man.

[Joe Rogan]

We do another one. Those are fun.

[Duncan]

Those are fun.

[Joe Rogan]

We do John Rallo, Dean Thompson and Matt.

[Duncan]

You know John.

[Joe Rogan]

Amazing. He's the best. John Rallo's the best.

[Duncan]

Oh, he's funny, man.

[Joe Rogan]

I love him. He's fun and he's an ogre.

[Duncan]

Oh, he's a.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a gigantic human being. Big ass black belt. He was well over £300 at one point. Oh yeah. Here it is, folks, the main event.

[Duncan]

Where's that lighter for my cigar?

[Joe Rogan]

There you go, sir.

[Duncan]

I don't smoke cigars.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's all, he's all.

[Joe Rogan]

He's all warmed up.

[Matt Serra]

So, B, you're doing well tonight. So you got. I mean, you took the favorite though.

[Joe Rogan]

You got Strickland, but you got Strickland.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

So you're taking the dog.

[Brendan Schaub]

What do you got?

[Joe Rogan]

Who you got, Shop?

[Matt Serra]

I'm rooting for Strickland, dude. But ddp, it's.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's hard because he's gonna push the pace and it's really hard.

[Matt Serra]

If I were to put money out, probably ddp, but I'm rooting for Strickland.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah. The only thing about.

[Joe Rogan]

I like the mustache. I really do. Yeah, I like him with the mustache. He's like old Bronson, that psychotic guy from Australia.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yes, he is.

[Joe Rogan]

He looks like a killer. He is.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's awesome.

[Joe Rogan]

I think he's very focused. I'm fired up for this.

[Brendan Schaub]

His. His boxing's outstanding. It's just.

[Matt Serra]

I'm just curious what changes Strickland can make. He has a great team. I think the best. You know, besides Matt's team, probably the best coaching staff they have.

[Brendan Schaub]

Who's this? You're saying Nick Sick.

[Joe Rogan]

This movie looks Cool. What is this? It looks like a fun like black. Oh, his hand just got chopped off. He plays the guy that's.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, the director of Parasite.

[Joe Rogan]

He's made into clones. And they keep testing him out. So they keep testing his. Like, what can you.

[Matt Serra]

What?

[Joe Rogan]

Pushing him until he dies. And then they transfer his consciousness into a new body. And then the clones find themselves. Oh, my God. Aren't dying. That's like they show in the trailer. Oh my God, bro. That's a real problem with like when they can duplicate your consciousness and put it on a hard drive. What's to stop someone like Trump from doing it a million times? I'm gonna have a million to me instead of one trump.

[Brendan Schaub]

I'm back.

[Joe Rogan]

Have a million trumps. If we get to a point where you can make a clone and we're probably already done that. China's probably already have clones. I bet they have clones.

[Matt Serra]

Trump would already do it. But how, dog? Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So you could probably clone a person.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah. But can you get their consciousness into them?

[Joe Rogan]

Definitely not. Like, twins are different.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. Twins are like pretty close.

[Brendan Schaub]

That Thomas Campbell podcast was to me the most mindblowing thing.

[Joe Rogan]

Wild stuff, right? Wild stuff.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's as close to unlocking the secrets of what. Like that's. That might be the new evolution. Like, we're. We're going to realize that there's something beyond evolution. We like the. The evolution was. Is within a larger umbrella, which is the notion that this is. This is a virtual reality. This is a simulation.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a virtual reality. You're experiencing with consciousness.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

And consciousness helps form it.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yes.

[Duncan]

I was literally just experiencing virtual reality.

[Joe Rogan]

Literally. That's what we were saying.

[Duncan]

Just playing my.

[Joe Rogan]

When I knew you were. When I called you and I couldn't get to you when I was inviting you to dinner, I was like, he's probably got the fucking headset.

[Duncan]

Do you got a chimera in there? Came.

[Joe Rogan]

No.

[Duncan]

It's fun.

[Joe Rogan]

Last night.

[Duncan]

I sent you the picture.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, you sent me the picture. You're addicted. What game you play again?

[Duncan]

Contractor. Showdown.

[Matt Serra]

Contractor.

[Duncan]

Did you ever play Modern Warfare? Oh, yeah, Same, but in VR. Oh, Nergasm.

[Brendan Schaub]

I don't want to do it. I might get addicted to that.

[Joe Rogan]

Listen, it's funny.

[Duncan]

I play that in the hotel. People think sometimes I'm yelling and.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah. Are you playing other people?

[Duncan]

People probably think somebody's getting murdered. I'm stab at him.

[Brendan Schaub]

Are you playing the game or other people?

[Duncan]

I'm playing a game. No, no. I squat up.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

There's no Way you could say this without sound like a nerd. Stop it. I see you getting ready. No, because I squat up.

[Joe Rogan]

There's groups of three.

[Duncan]

Here we go. Contractor showdown. Let's go. You're welcome.

[Brendan Schaub]

M1 rifle.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at that, dude.

[Duncan]

The sniping on this. That's the lobby right there. That's just. But that's the gameplay right here. You get out of an airplane saying you'll find weapons and you just.

[Joe Rogan]

All in virtual reality.

[Duncan]

Yes, but in virtual reality, like you're loading.

[Matt Serra]

With all your jiu jitsu.

[Duncan]

What's that?

[Matt Serra]

How do you have time to.

[Brendan Schaub]

Do you make the time?

[Duncan]

Dude, I don't. First of all, I don't think. All I do is go to my school and I do my podcast. I'm doing my thing with Jimmy Unfiltered. I do my new podcast, Matt Sarah Channel.

[Brendan Schaub]

You're an.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yes. So glad. All I do is talk about those.

[Duncan]

Superman trailers and all. All that geek. But I had George. I had George St. Pierre on the other day.

[Joe Rogan]

Nice.

[Duncan]

And. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So. But look at this game. This is amazing.

[Duncan]

Oh, this is fun, dude. You like this?

[Joe Rogan]

And what are you using for a gun? Like what kind of.

[Duncan]

Well, you got the controllers. You got the controllers and. But when you. Your hands are the controllers. So like you pick up a gun, you take the thing out. So you're really doing with your hands.

[Matt Serra]

I'm surprised they don't make like a fake gun.

[Duncan]

This is a great game. This is a fantastic, fantastic game.

[Joe Rogan]

This is wild.

[Duncan]

Contract to showdown.

[Brendan Schaub]

When I have, like, where it turns into a workout.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, they have some on the. They have these uno directional treadmills. Have you seen those? They strap you in on your chest so you can't move and you can run in any direction. Left, right? Yeah. So you're, you're. You're in like this, like a halo that goes around your waist and it's connected to these cables that's attached to this, like circular unidirectional treadmill. And you run in any direction and you really do work out. And guys are screaming at each other. They're all got their head. See if you can find my wife. My wife was going to get that thing right there. So that's a unidirectional treadmill. It's badass. So you get on that thing and when you're on it, you're running around. So watch. This guy's on it. He's going to start moving, you start walking. Look at that.

[Matt Serra]

Whoa.

[Joe Rogan]

Isn't that crazy?

[Duncan]

You know what My wife got me. She got me one of those vests that when you shoot it, I didn't get it. Yeah, she got me that. I didn't get it hooked up yet.

[Brendan Schaub]

These kids now who have been playing these games with the guns when they go to a shooting range, this SWAT guy was saying, these kids are as good as anybody.

[Matt Serra]

Well, there's a kid who does the simulation. They made a movie out. He played Gran Turismo. Then he actually raced for Nismo.

[Duncan]

That's funny.

[Matt Serra]

And came in third.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that's right.

[Brendan Schaub]

That's what's going on with the shooting. These kids are all head shots.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, they did studies with surgeons, and they found the surgeons who play video. Video games make, like, 25 less errors. Wow. Yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

Makes sense.

[Joe Rogan]

37. 37 less hours. Jesus Christ. That's. That's crazy. So it's like. It's real. Like, hand eye coordination and feedback and motion.

[Brendan Schaub]

Of course.

[Duncan]

And I'm in a house of women, man. Like, my wife, my three daughters, they're watching her or something. I could be in the room with them.

[Matt Serra]

That makes sense.

[Brendan Schaub]

I did the boxing thing. That's pretty fun.

[Joe Rogan]

That's crazy. You're in the room with them. They're watching, like, Gone Girl or something. Oh, 100.

[Duncan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, it's fun, man.

[Matt Serra]

It's a workout, though, baby. My son does the VR boxing and sweats off.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah, the VR boxing is great because it. When you get hit, you see, like, a flash of light, like. And eventually they'll have something where you're wearing a headset. You'll feel like a vibration. Your face, like, you got thump.

[Brendan Schaub]

So they. They made this illegal for the MLB be. But you can now have a pitcher. They'll take any pitcher, like, in the major leagues, and they'll throw.

[Joe Rogan]

What is the simulation? This. You have shoes on now. Those. I think I like the treadmill better. I fall down. That looks weird.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, you're gonna fall.

[Matt Serra]

He walks weird, too.

[Joe Rogan]

But.

[Brendan Schaub]

But they have. With the Major League Baseball pitchers, they have a simulation, and you can see the actual pitcher and he throws whatever he throws. The ball comes at you.

[Matt Serra]

Who told you?

[Brendan Schaub]

And they made it illegal. No, they have it. They made it illegal. That don't. It's too. They. They don't let. They don't want anybody in the major leagues actually using it. That's.

[Joe Rogan]

Stop lying.

[Matt Serra]

That's to sell.

[Brendan Schaub]

No, Kevin. Babe. Kevin. Bab was talking about it. The. The machine's like, $100,000.

[Joe Rogan]

And what happens? You get a Let roast.

[Matt Serra]

You get a tell on them.

[Brendan Schaub]

It gives them too much of an advantage, apparently.

[Joe Rogan]

So they said you can't too much of it. We don't want you to be good.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, that's what happens. You guys don't know. Shut up.

[Joe Rogan]

Find that out, Jamie. It's sticking in his face. You know it can't be true.

[Brendan Schaub]

No, it is.

[Joe Rogan]

Find it.

[Brendan Schaub]

Find that.

[Matt Serra]

Our video games are legal in mlb.

[Brendan Schaub]

No, no, you can't play. You can't have the actual picture simulated.

[Duncan]

Whatever I was drinking. Oh, thank you.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's talk about how much better Jamie is at golf than you. I know how much better his drive was.

[Brendan Schaub]

Your swing is great, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

It was very depressing watching you try to compete with him.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, he tried to compete with.

[Joe Rogan]

Try to compete with Jamie's drive.

[Brendan Schaub]

My swing was actually rather beautiful.

[Joe Rogan]

It wasn't that good. You got like 45 yards. Jamie got two.

[Brendan Schaub]

First of all, was longer than 45. And plus, I wasn't warmed up off.

[Joe Rogan]

The deck, by the way. Not even with a T. Jamie, you.

[Matt Serra]

Play how you play? Like real or you just play virtual?

[Joe Rogan]

No, I play it real. I mean.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Touch some grass.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's good, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Virtual is where he hones, works on the craft skills. Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

Touch grass, though.

[Brendan Schaub]

You know, look at Strickland.

[Joe Rogan]

I love. But he's got that smooth.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's got that. He's got that man's body just like a Charles Bronson.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm so pumped for this fight.

[Duncan]

This is why Wild man.

[Matt Serra]

I'm just curious of what changes Strickland's going to make to win more rounds.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's got grapple less. Grapple less or more.

[Matt Serra]

Does he shoot for takedowns?

[Joe Rogan]

He said he thinks he's going to piece him up. That's what he said. Which means on the feet, jab, teep. A lot of jabs and teeps.

[Brendan Schaub]

I think you're going to see DDP wrestle more. I think he's going to.

[Matt Serra]

I think DDP is. I think straight. We can see some stricken because remember, this is the same coach that with Francis had him shooting more. Surprise, everybody.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, I think he's going to. I think he's going to do a lot of wrestling.

[Joe Rogan]

That staff looks legit. That staff on his left arm, that looks legit. That looks like real staff to me.

[Brendan Schaub]

Does. That's not good.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that looks like real.

[Brendan Schaub]

So he's probably on antibiotics.

[Joe Rogan]

I got to think so.

[Brendan Schaub]

And if he is, that's not good.

[Joe Rogan]

Unless he said it. Let's just go topical. I Bet and control it. Yeah, he might just control it with topical. Topical?

[Matt Serra]

Yeah. You don't want to use it because you can.

[Joe Rogan]

You can control it with topical.

[Brendan Schaub]

It looks like it got dug out a little bit.

[Joe Rogan]

It looks like a pus. It looks like a big old giant zit. That's where they get scary when they get big because you think they're getting systemic. You know, they're getting your bloodstream.

[Duncan]

I got a boil of something called Falunko or some on my collarbone when I was in Brazil. Dude, that was the most disgusting first of all. The math were disgusting. No, it wasn't staff. I think it's a. It's a. They called a boil here or something. Whatever it was, but it. It got really big, like a big zit. And then. And finally you, like, comes to a head, and then at the end, you pull out a little piece of phlegm. It looked like a bullet wound in there.

[Joe Rogan]

It was.

[Brendan Schaub]

I had cancer on my back. I. They took out a squa cell.

[Duncan]

Oh, yeah. You out did me there.

[Joe Rogan]

We had to. He couldn't let you. I be cancer.

[Brendan Schaub]

I beat cancer.

[Duncan]

You had a little pus. I had cancer.

[Brendan Schaub]

I beat cancer. But it kept itching. And I was like, the.

[Joe Rogan]

Is.

[Brendan Schaub]

Why is this itching? And I went and they took out a piece. She called me up, she goes, you got a little screen of cell there, man.

[Joe Rogan]

It was a while ago, Dris.

[Duncan]

They just gave me a cream I got to put on my nose. You see this little mark here?

[Brendan Schaub]

What.

[Joe Rogan]

What is it? What is it?

[Duncan]

It's like a little. The lady said that she's giving me some chemo cream.

[Brendan Schaub]

She goes, a basal cell maybe?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

She goes, just. But I didn't want to. They said, I'll use this. I'll start it next week. I was supposed to start it a week ago, but. And then because it's supposed to get, like, crusty and it's getting all nasty.

[Brendan Schaub]

Don't around with something that doesn't like if it keeps bleeding. That. That's not.

[Duncan]

Well, she said to go back to see her after two weeks of using it.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

And she'll know if she has to cut me or anything.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, take it out.

[Duncan]

It's from the sun. I like the sun, man. Dude, it's. I was laying out today in the back of my.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, it was nice out.

[Brendan Schaub]

It is good.

[Joe Rogan]

All that about the sun being bad for you is nonsense. It's just. You shouldn't get overexposure and get burned.

[Brendan Schaub]

Right.

[Matt Serra]

I don't believe in sun you're supposed.

[Joe Rogan]

To build up moderation.

[Brendan Schaub]

You get dark.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, I don't. I don't use sunscreen. Never have, even as a kid.

[Joe Rogan]

Good for you. That shit's poison.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah. Facts.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, they have some, like, natural sunscreens, but it looks like you're wearing blackface. Oh, no. What does natural sunscreen look like?

[Matt Serra]

The sunburn.

[Joe Rogan]

It looks like you're Goth. You're a Goth kid.

[Brendan Schaub]

Zinc cream, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

You see, lathering their kids up with them, like, give them some sun.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

They need. So everyone's scared of sunburn, and everyone's scared.

[Brendan Schaub]

Depends on your skin cancer, right? Depends.

[Joe Rogan]

What's up, Jamie? What's this? You see this mustache? I give staff. I don't get staff. Oh, okay.

[Duncan]

All right.

[Joe Rogan]

That was his take on it.

[Brendan Schaub]

You see this?

[Joe Rogan]

I give staffs trickling ass.

[Brendan Schaub]

If I got a staff, I don't fucking get staff.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, that means he has staff.

[Matt Serra]

See what. You see what Strickland said at the press conference? He goes, you fight like a. Like, you ride the short bus like.

[Brendan Schaub]

A. Yeah, he does fight.

[Joe Rogan]

And then Jerkus goes, and you look like the one driving it.

[Matt Serra]

That's funny.

[Joe Rogan]

But the problem with that is, like, the one driving is a normal person.

[Brendan Schaub]

Not a good car.

[Duncan]

I heard. Liked it, though.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. They're dumb. They're dumb. They're not thinking logically. That didn't make sense. I'm fucking pumped. What do you think, Matt?

[Duncan]

You know, I'm going with Strickland. I made the. This. I feel like Strickland's gonna win by.

[Brendan Schaub]

Decision, but smart money's on ddb.

[Duncan]

You know why? Because I. He adds in those takedowns, but he takes away those takedowns and he puts a little more stank on it. I feel. Who knows how much that cut really bothered him in that. With that, that eye. Because he's making. He's. I don't. I think he's an honest guy, and he said. And he's saying it with him, you.

[Joe Rogan]

Know, I'm sure it did.

[Brendan Schaub]

I, I, I have to say that. That Strickland stands pretty straight up. So he does seem open for takedowns, and I'm surprised.

[Joe Rogan]

I know he's hard to take down. Skillful. And he spars so much.

[Brendan Schaub]

I know.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, he spars more than anybody in the ufc when they put that mouthpiece in, that registers how many times you get hit. He gets hit less than anybody. Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

He has the best striking defense ever.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, Ever.

[Brendan Schaub]

That's why I love watching him. He's amazing.

[Duncan]

He's gonna but deep.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's so big.

[Matt Serra]

I thought he won the first fight.

[Joe Rogan]

I thought he won the first fight, but I thought it was close. Dana thought he won the first fight too.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

And he might have been compromised with that, with that eye, so.

[Joe Rogan]

He definitely was. But I think also I think Drus is even better. Yeah, I think Dris just keeps getting better.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

He's got that belief in himself.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, man. And he's huge. When I stand next to. To him, I can't believe he makes 185. I mean, literally when in between fights, he looks like a heavyweight. He's so big.

[Brendan Schaub]

He looked like he was 240 standing next to Bisbing and Bisb220.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he looked real thin at the weigh ins yesterday and he looks like he filled in a lot. They interviewed him like pretty much right after he got on the scales, which I always think sucks.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Give the guy a few hours.

[Brendan Schaub]

You know you're not allowed to do IV IVs.

[Joe Rogan]

No, you're not.

[Brendan Schaub]

Why?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know. I think it's stupid.

[Brendan Schaub]

Me too.

[Matt Serra]

I think you'd mask.

[Joe Rogan]

I got an IV today. It was awesome.

[Matt Serra]

I love IVs.

[Joe Rogan]

IV vitamins and zinc. Whenever I'm feeling kind of shitty, I get an iv. Nad vitamins?

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah. What about NAD vitamins?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it's great. It is phenomenal. What do they say?

[Brendan Schaub]

What do they say? You have to shoot it into your body first or do you don't take it supplement wise, you shoot it.

[Joe Rogan]

No, you can take. You can take nmn, which like helps build up it naturally, has kind of a similar effect. But I think IV nad is the most potent form of it.

[Brendan Schaub]

You take a lot of stuff.

[Joe Rogan]

That's right.

[Brendan Schaub]

There you go.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm feeling good.

[Brendan Schaub]

I like it.

[Joe Rogan]

Feeling Good at 85 years old.

[Brendan Schaub]

Not bad, buddy. You're. When are you 58?

[Joe Rogan]

August?

[Brendan Schaub]

Yep.

[Duncan]

Is it gonna feel weird when you say you're 60? Because it felt weird when I was. When 50 felt a little weird.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't. Honestly.

[Duncan]

50, bro.

[Matt Serra]

You don't look it.

[Duncan]

Sorry, guys. I know you're approaching the other one, but I'm 50.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm 57. I'll be 58. I don't think about it anymore because there's nothing I can do about it. All I think about is making sure my body works great.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And as long as I stay up on the peptides and the hormones and train all the time and constantly work out, do a bunch of different things. Kettlebells cardio, cold plunge, sauna every day. All these different things. Things. It stays working.

[Matt Serra]

But if you look at a 58 year old from like the 1960s, they were dead. It's a different thing. Like 58's different than what it was, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm sweating. I'm getting ready for this fight. I'm fired up. I'm sweating.

[Brendan Schaub]

DDP has actually skinny legs, so a lot of his weight in his upper body.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know if the skin is.

[Brendan Schaub]

I mean, comparatively. Comparatively. Bara's ass, he's got more ass than Beyonce, man. That ass is on a different level.

[Matt Serra]

I don't know about that. Who?

[Joe Rogan]

Barrera. You mean?

[Brendan Schaub]

I mean Pera.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. My God.

[Brendan Schaub]

Unbelievable, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

That's the scariest kickboxer that's ever fought in the sport. Oh, you. You up one time. All just takes one. No, no, no. Pereira, one shot, he did to Strickland.

[Matt Serra]

Greatest defensive fighter we've seen. He just.

[Joe Rogan]

One left starched him. Tagged him a couple times in the chest. Got him reaching for it. Came over with that left hook. Night, night.

[Duncan]

For Izzy's legacy, it's nice. He had that one time. The way he did it, the way.

[Joe Rogan]

He arrows at the end, he has.

[Duncan]

That's enough just to be like, all.

[Joe Rogan]

Right, you know what? Oh, he's like, there's.

[Matt Serra]

I think with. With Alex, like, there's a difference between MMA striking like the elite strikers and then actual elite strikers.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. He's an actual elite two division glory world champion. Huge. But there's that dude, Vov, that's now in mma, who beat him in glory in his last fight. Close fight decision.

[Matt Serra]

Sub controversial fight. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But he won and he landed more shots than Pereira. And he. He's got a style that, like, doesn't leave any openings. He's like, very technical. He's like a really good kickboxer. I don't know what kind of a ground game, if anything he has.

[Brendan Schaub]

They got DDP listed at 6 1. Is he. He's not 6 2.

[Joe Rogan]

62 to me.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But those. Those guys like that, that are Russian, those Russian dudes, they learn wrestling when they're babies anyway. I guarantee that guy has some sort of a Sambo background.

[Duncan]

The shape he's in. Holy.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's as strong as.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. VOV is interesting because I think he just fought on Dana White's Contender Series.

[Matt Serra]

They signed him.

[Joe Rogan]

I think they signed him. He's just gonna see that. Artem Vov, if he fought on Dana White's Contender Series, he's just Gonna have.

[Matt Serra]

A tough path to get to Alex. Like Alex was catapult to the front because Izzy was so dominant. So they sped him to the front.

[Joe Rogan]

Right?

[Matt Serra]

It's gonna be different.

[Joe Rogan]

No, it's different also. It's different because Alex puts people into Night Night Night Land. And yeah, he won by tko. Vitov is good, man. Super technical. Here we go.

[Duncan]

Let's. Here we go.

[Brendan Schaub]

This is an insane way to make a living.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my goodness.

[Matt Serra]

Love it.

[Joe Rogan]

This is it. This is it. Here we go. Here we go. All right. Round one. Let's go.

[Brendan Schaub]

Look at that.

[Matt Serra]

I'm so curious on the adjustment they make.

[Duncan]

I think Sean fights one way, man. He's gonna just do more of it.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a good way. It's such a good way. That jab is just so hard to with straight up. DDP did a lot of that in that first fight too. That left switch kick beats up the arms a little bit, you know, because even if you block it like that, that sucks. I mean, it sucks your calf. Imagine what it's doing your forearm.

[Matt Serra]

I know.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, so many times, guys arms go numb and you just don't know it, cuz they're still moving around. It's not like a calf where you see him limping. I mean, how much does that take out of your punching power, that kick? Yeah, he was slick with that. He landed a lot of those in the first fight. He's just. He's a guy that for whatever reason, because the way he moves, people sleep on him.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, they don't give him the respect.

[Joe Rogan]

It's weird.

[Matt Serra]

He doesn't look like your conventional elite.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, look at that. Yeah. Sneak question mark kick. He keeps throwing that up to the top. It's quick too.

[Duncan]

He's got the endurance to keep throwing them.

[Joe Rogan]

And there's the location.

[Brendan Schaub]

Really good at checking those kicks, but it's not checking these.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he does that same style of checking kicks that Pereira does, where you kind of hat. Yeah, he hacky sacks. You know, you turn that foot all the way up towards your knee.

[Duncan]

Love the jab, man.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, man. He's got a great truth, man.

[Joe Rogan]

But DDP's doing a smart thing by attacking the legs.

[Matt Serra]

Really smart.

[Joe Rogan]

Attacking the legs and attacking the arm with the switch kick and then threatening with the high kick.

[Duncan]

Ouch.

[Brendan Schaub]

Ouch.

[Matt Serra]

It's just an investment for later rounds.

[Joe Rogan]

It's such an awkward way of moving. It's so weird. Like Robert Whitaker and Izzy were talking about. They're like, he's the best fighter ever. Yeah. How do you say that he's a world. How do you say he's a fighter? The guy's a world champion, but it's just. It's awkward. But so effective. Like when he took out Robert Whitaker in the first round, I was like, my God, he's powerful, athletic. Oh, my God. So strong.

[Brendan Schaub]

Just durable. It's durable as this is the old.

[Duncan]

Feeling out stage and that.

[Joe Rogan]

But that move that he's doing back though, it's interesting. Oh, spinning back. Well, this is where Sean fights at his best. But. But DDP is by doing those switch kicks and those low kicks there. He did the hacky sack on that one.

[Brendan Schaub]

Standing your grill. Look at Sean pop, pop.

[Joe Rogan]

That is a dangerous move, that left kick, cuz it's sneaky. He didn't land it to the face in the first fight, but he threatened with it a bunch of times. If he can land that. That's a fight changer. Sean's so hard to hit.

[Brendan Schaub]

He is, man.

[Joe Rogan]

So hard to hit clean. His instincts and his timing because he sparrows so much active out there, man. Oh, yeah.

[Matt Serra]

DP's winning the round.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he's certainly landing more kicks. Yeah, right.

[Matt Serra]

That's what matters for the judges.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, damage matters. I mean, if Sean can get off a one, two, if he could do something significant. But right now it's like just kind of touching them. And DDP's not letting him set up. Nope, he's not.

[Matt Serra]

Let him get in a groove.

[Joe Rogan]

Sean does not kick that much, you know, and when he kicks, it's very linear. He's got a really up. Was it right leg?

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, it's quad. He don't have a quad.

[Joe Rogan]

It's all up, really. He was just riding a motorcycle on the Countdown show and fell down. Yeah, he's crazy. Yeah, he fell down. He's crazy. I mean, he's got a giant fight coming up and he's still riding motorcycles. He was wrestling with guys in Australia on a beach, on a bridge. Throwing him into the water.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yep. Doing backflips.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's an animal.

[Duncan]

He's getting out pointed right now, though. Only cuz he's. Only cuz he's not busy enough.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, DDP's winning this round.

[Joe Rogan]

He's definitely more active. Oh, there's that jab, boy. You hit ddp. He gets mad.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, he does.

[Joe Rogan]

He goes bulldog mode on you. He just got to do something significant other than just touch him with the jab, Sean.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, he really doesn't do much more than that.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he's looking for them openings and right kick is so nice. That time is so nice. Yeah, this is. And I think DDP just keeps getting better, too. That's the thing. And then as a champion, you know, I mean, I think he's got even more confidence. Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

I think DB he has a lot more growth and adjustments to make to beat Strickland.

[Joe Rogan]

And the kicks are just a totally different element. Right. I mean, it's a distance thing. It's a. You know, it's a power thing. You got to kind of like. You can't fire back when they're hitting you. You got to really block them.

[Matt Serra]

And think about. He hasn't even started grappling yet. So that's still in the chamber.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just Sean is, like, mostly teeps and then jab, 1, 2. But it's almost all straight at you, very few low kicks.

[Duncan]

This took place in the center.

[Joe Rogan]

See? It's all the teeps. He's doing a good job of avoiding those big bombs, though, that are coming out at him.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's so hard to hit, man.

[Joe Rogan]

He is. But he's getting his legs chewed up, man. That was his first round for the champion.

[Matt Serra]

You go back to corner like, bud, we can't keep doing this.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, you.

[Matt Serra]

You got to take away those legs.

[Joe Rogan]

Here's the question. Is Strickland on antibiotics? I mean, that looks like a real staff infection. I know Rockhold beat Wideman. He was on antibiotics. You know, guys have won big fights on antibiotics. Yeah, but it's so hard to fight on that stuff. Stuff. Your. Your energy is drained the worst. Oh, it's hard.

[Duncan]

I mean, he's. Unless he's just keeping some. Keeping his. Keeping his energy. Energy for the later rounds.

[Joe Rogan]

Is there a way to mitigate the effects of antibiotics? Have you ever heard of anything that the guys take?

[Duncan]

Nah, man.

[Joe Rogan]

I didn't hear anything like heavy probiotics. Is there anything that you can take?

[Duncan]

No, I have no clue, dude. I. I know Marab fought his first fight when he was getting over something, and I still think he won. He got robbed, but he.

[Joe Rogan]

It hits your heart, either.

[Duncan]

He's on it. I know he just got over it, but I think it was.

[Matt Serra]

They said that last fight, Marab had a horrible staff infection on his shin.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Duncan]

That he had a back problem.

[Joe Rogan]

I broke my back shin. He's just like, rob, you won. You won, dude.

[Matt Serra]

Ddp.

[Joe Rogan]

All right, let's go, let's go. Let's see what adjustments Strickland makes.

[Brendan Schaub]

I don't think he's going to make ad paying adjustments. I think he's gonna.

[Duncan]

He's got to be busy.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he's got to make some adjustments to deal with these kicks.

[Matt Serra]

He's gonna lose five rounds if he doesn't change. And DDP's gonna start wrestling soon, too, because once Strickland starts committing, he's gonna start shooting.

[Joe Rogan]

DDP is so sneaky with that high kick. That's a nasty high kick, man. And there's a low kick again. He checked that one.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, he checked it.

[Duncan]

He's gotta get through that shell.

[Brendan Schaub]

Man's gotta get a little loose. Loose.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he's got to do something big.

[Matt Serra]

To get on his bike.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's got to be frustrating that you can just do whatever you want to DDP and he just absorbs it.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, there again. He's sneaking that kick in.

[Duncan]

He's got to get busy. See? See?

[Matt Serra]

Strickland's doing a great job avoiding a lot of shots, but he's just not doing much right.

[Joe Rogan]

And DDP keeps chopping him legs. It's not everything in a fight, but it's something. You know, it's like no head shots have been landed.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

In this fight, it's everything. It's all.

[Joe Rogan]

It's all that's been landed to the body again.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's catching his elbow, though.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but still. That's horrible, dude.

[Matt Serra]

Points, though.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's something. Yeah, it's the most. Oh, there's a right hand over the top. Needs a little more of that. Oh, here we go.

[Matt Serra]

Start R or DDPs going.

[Brendan Schaub]

Start. I'm surprised. Yeah, there's different part of the game.

[Joe Rogan]

Strickland turning the gas is what we needing the gas now. We need this. He. He can't leave these rounds in the hands of the judges. This is the second round already. Oh, again.

[Brendan Schaub]

Checked it.

[Joe Rogan]

I know, but it's still. It's like he's keeping him off balance with all that. He's. Every time he goes to set up, which he sets up with everybody, DDP is just constantly doing this low kick with the right common. There it is. It's like he's constantly got these patterns that he throws in this. In that stance. It's the switch switching up.

[Duncan]

Yeah, she wants coming.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, there's a left hand. Oh, he landed that left hand. He's coming.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, it did.

[Joe Rogan]

Because he's landing that in the transitions of these. Oh, there's.

[Duncan]

That was a nice counter.

[Joe Rogan]

Nice right hand. Nice right hand.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Serra]

Just no problem.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, there it is. There it is. There it is.

[Duncan]

You got to put yourself a little in harm's way to do harm.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

Let's go.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, that's a fast front check kick, man.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, he needs to get DDP to start engaging in a boxing slug fest, cuz he.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's.

[Joe Rogan]

DDP is doing such a smart move with mixing in all these kicks, which. With everything it. With your ability to like, time everything. Yeah. And you have to keep getting reset. You get to keep reset and every time you do it, he hits you again with it.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, he's not letting him get com.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh, Strickland's nice.

[Joe Rogan]

Where's he bleeding from? Where's trickling his lip?

[Matt Serra]

His mouth?

[Brendan Schaub]

He got caught with a jab.

[Duncan]

He's having a way better round though.

[Joe Rogan]

He's also much more aggressive.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Much more forward.

[Duncan]

This is it. This is it. Yeah, sure.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's go.

[Duncan]

America's getting in the zone now, man.

[Brendan Schaub]

Sean can just stand right there and just.

[Joe Rogan]

He can celebrate in the Gulf of America after this. This. Oh, nice inside low kick.

[Brendan Schaub]

His kicks are a pain in the ass.

[Joe Rogan]

They're a pain in the ass cuz he's constantly resetting you y. You know, again, like he's constantly reset. He never gives you a chance there. Again, high kick. He's just again kicks the game and the. It's a smart game plan, man.

[Matt Serra]

Until Sean shuts it down, he's just going to keep.

[Joe Rogan]

He can keep doing this. He can keep doing this spanking rounds and it's going to take Shawn's legs away from him if he keeps doing. Doing it. I mean, Sean, as tough as he is, can only take so many of those kicks to the legs. He checked that one he's constantly throwing. I know, but even checking them, Brian, they blow. They suck.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yep.

[Duncan]

Come on, man. Get in there.

[Joe Rogan]

His left leg is all welted up.

[Duncan]

Make it ugly, man. Gotta make it ugly.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he's gotta.

[Matt Serra]

He's gonna have to stop outside.

[Joe Rogan]

There's the jab. Right hand to the body.

[Brendan Schaub]

Nice. Nice.

[Joe Rogan]

There's another hard low kick. Man, these are hard kicks, man.

[Brendan Schaub]

They're a.

[Joe Rogan]

It's part of, you know, the game that Sean just doesn't do. It's interesting because he's so good, but it's like such a specific attack, but he's so good at it. Oh, oh, he snuck it in again. He touched him with that.

[Brendan Schaub]

Raised him. Look at that.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, he's not getting clean with. That counts. It does count, cuz Sean definitely doesn't want him kicking him in the face.

[Brendan Schaub]

Good.

[Joe Rogan]

Ouch That's a nice right hand. That's a nice right hand. Oh, now that makes it. Let's go. Let's go.

[Matt Serra]

Third, fourth is gonna be interesting.

[Brendan Schaub]

Caught him there.

[Joe Rogan]

It is crazy when you look at Sean's style. Like who fights like this? Stands totally straight up. Does.

[Brendan Schaub]

Mostly part of why he doesn't have as much power though.

[Matt Serra]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

But it's also why he's so hard to hit.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, he's great defense. Best defense in. In the game.

[Duncan]

That's a. What do you think of that round?

[Matt Serra]

Closer.

[Duncan]

It was closer. But he might have been more active.

[Joe Rogan]

It seemed like he definitely landed more kicks. But Strickland landed a few good punches in that round. At least it was a better round for him.

[Duncan]

But now he's.

[Brendan Schaub]

He great condition.

[Matt Serra]

Look at that. Strikes 28 to 17.

[Duncan]

Wow.

[Matt Serra]

He's just more active. So Strickland's down two rounds now.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Duncan]

He's got it. He's like. I'm sure Nick Six letting him know.

[Matt Serra]

And DDP's gonna keep doing it. Then once Strickland is just that then.

[Joe Rogan]

He'S such a great coach.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's his. The guy with the red hair.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

He'S choma.

[Joe Rogan]

There's that kick. There's a nice jab right hand over the top.

[Duncan]

You gotta do some more of that.

[Brendan Schaub]

That, that.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at that thing. Sean just gets just out of the way of the danger zone. It's just touching him.

[Brendan Schaub]

Great eyes. Like he can just boom.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he spars so much, man. And there's something to be said for that.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yep.

[Joe Rogan]

Something to be said for that. Cuz that's like the majority of his training is sparring.

[Brendan Schaub]

I think he spars without headgear too and all. Cuz it's just, you know.

[Duncan]

Let's go, let's go.

[Joe Rogan]

Round three. Let's go. Trick is just constant with these kicks. And it's just like. It's such an obvious pattern too. He does it over and over again.

[Duncan]

He's got. Look, you see him trying to get into an animal.

[Matt Serra]

Shrink's gonna have to take some chances here.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he. That was a good check. He checked with the. He's got to get something off and really win around definitively. And push, push a harder pace because this like Dricus could do this from the outside. And he keeps having to reset. Oh, nice. That little stutter step. See that little stutter step reach is so weird.

[Duncan]

He's in shape. Drake is.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh yeah, there he is. Check that one.

[Duncan]

Constantly through growing.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's more busy that's for sure.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. It's like Sean is just not getting a chance to get things off. Like the. The time he's looking for the openings, they're just not there. But as it gets into the pace, if Dr. I mean, Trickus is expending a lot of energy fighting like this and.

[Matt Serra]

And Strickland usually gets way stronger than the.

[Joe Rogan]

There it goes.

[Duncan]

I like that to the body, too. More of that?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

More than one punch, more than two. Mix it up.

[Joe Rogan]

What a crazy style. Yeah, Both of them, you mean? Very few round kicks. Just teeps, reaching a lot of jabs, right hands.

[Duncan]

I can see Strickland doing the bare knuckle eventually.

[Joe Rogan]

No, he can do it.

[Duncan]

I can see him doing that.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he'd probably want to do it too. Connor keeps talking about doing it. That might be the next time we see Sam.

[Matt Serra]

A good chance against Jeremy Stevens.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God. Imagine that.

[Duncan]

Yeah, he probably said it if they had a lot of caffeine.

[Brendan Schaub]

You think we'll ever see Conor caffeine?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know if Conor's ever gonna fight again. He's worth so much money.

[Matt Serra]

I don't think so.

[Joe Rogan]

It's hard when a guy's worth that much money and then when he got saucy.

[Duncan]

What's gonna be scary with him in his own life is when he's out of the limelight. Cuz I think he's a dude that likes what's going to happen when he's an older fighter now. Old, Retired, officially. No one's expecting him back now.

[Joe Rogan]

What right, does he get crazy?

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, because that's why he keeps teasing the fight, sustain the news.

[Joe Rogan]

But eventually. That was a good right hand there by Strickland.

[Brendan Schaub]

Let's go, Sean.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just DDP does not give you much chance to set up, man.

[Brendan Schaub]

It's weird like that.

[Matt Serra]

Strickland just has to hope. He kind of phases.

[Joe Rogan]

I feel like he just needs to just make this uglier. Like he's got to get closer to him.

[Matt Serra]

It's just not his style.

[Duncan]

Oh, did he catch that?

[Joe Rogan]

Yep. Yeah, he got him a little bit with that. That spin just grazing him. He just. God, he's constant. Like he never rests. And he's another guy. Relies on his fitness too. Cuz this is an exhausting style, man. Oh, wild.

[Matt Serra]

When you walk in that ring and you're like, all right, five rounds, you know, it's probably going five.

[Joe Rogan]

It's all exploding and like closing distance. That's a nice kick to the body. It's never Stopping, man. He just does not give Strickland a chance to reset. And Strickland's got to get something big off because this could be the round that makes it out of reach.

[Brendan Schaub]

Strickland seems a little bit.

[Duncan]

I want to see what happens if he loses this round. He's going to have to be going for broke.

[Brendan Schaub]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

Because what. This is the round that passes him, like, to a point where he can't win a decision.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, he comes on heavy in the fourth and fifth, but that the last fight. Strickland didn't do much in the fourth.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but so does Drickus. That's the problem. There it is. He's got to, like, do something. Put a stamp on this round, like, wobble him. Yeah, he's gotta. He's gotta put it on him. He's got to win this round. Oh, nice. Nice spin.

[Matt Serra]

That elbow landed flush.

[Duncan]

Yeah, man. And because he's unable to pressure him, he's still looking fresh.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he caught him with a right hand there.

[Matt Serra]

Open it up a little now.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just. He's not getting a chance to get that offense off. It's very impressive. Just. He never gives him a chance to set up. Always.

[Brendan Schaub]

I'm just surprised Du Plessi isn't going for, like, a singular.

[Matt Serra]

He doesn't need to.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

Why would you. You're up three rounds.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

Why would you risk it and get more tired? Because he can do this for five rounds.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he clipped him there.

[Brendan Schaub]

There you go.

[Joe Rogan]

That was a crazy, like, swinging right.

[Duncan]

He still has that in his back pocket.

[Joe Rogan]

Yikes.

[Brendan Schaub]

That kick is low and hard.

[Duncan]

There you go.

[Joe Rogan]

There you go.

[Duncan]

Listen to Coach Cash Allen.

[Matt Serra]

And that's the round.

[Duncan]

Gotcha.

[Brendan Schaub]

We worked on wrestling guys up just feet.

[Joe Rogan]

Sure, he doesn't do much of the.

[Matt Serra]

Takedowns because Sean gets back, but he's.

[Joe Rogan]

Got to give it to.

[Matt Serra]

Course for him.

[Joe Rogan]

He's got to give it to him. There it is. He's got a really good job.

[Matt Serra]

Down three rounds.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he's down three rounds and he knows it.

[Duncan]

Yep, he knows it.

[Matt Serra]

That's rough.

[Brendan Schaub]

He seems a little lackadaisical.

[Joe Rogan]

I wonder if it's the antibiotics. Yeah, I wonder.

[Matt Serra]

Or is it DDP style?

[Joe Rogan]

It's both.

[Matt Serra]

It's a problem.

[Brendan Schaub]

Problem.

[Joe Rogan]

It might be both.

[Brendan Schaub]

Hard to.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, probably both. Probably combo both.

[Joe Rogan]

I wonder what Nick's saying to him here.

[Matt Serra]

We got to open up, take some chances.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's not taking. Sean's not taking any damage at all. It's just he's getting his legs kicked and scoring.

[Matt Serra]

No, he's. He's losing the fight.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

He's saying you got to push here.

[Brendan Schaub]

We see if I'm. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Good right hand by Sean. Boom. Oh, he caught him with that, man.

[Duncan]

He got him with that one.

[Joe Rogan]

This. Look at this elbow. Boom.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, but he caught him with his, like, backup.

[Joe Rogan]

That was nice.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, instead of the flush elbow.

[Duncan]

He's gotta get. He. He looks a little. He's got to get going.

[Brendan Schaub]

So tired actually there.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. It could be the pace, but it could be the antibiotics to land him. Nice kick to the body again.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, it's a pain in the ass. It's a front foot kick, though, Right? So it's not as powerful, but.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, but it's landing scored recent rounds.

[Brendan Schaub]

To the chinny chin.

[Duncan]

I like that.

[Brendan Schaub]

To the chinny chin. Chin, chin.

[Joe Rogan]

That was nice.

[Brendan Schaub]

Come on. Shot me.

[Joe Rogan]

He's got to put it on him, though. He's got to really put it on him this round.

[Brendan Schaub]

He doesn't seem to be following up.

[Matt Serra]

That right hand, but it's tough to put it on because DDP is so dangerous.

[Brendan Schaub]

Well, you don't want to get a slug fest with ddp, right?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but you kind of have to.

[Matt Serra]

It's like the other choice is you stay back and you lose a fourth round, now you're down 4, 0.

[Duncan]

At a certain point, you got to throw caution for the win, man.

[Matt Serra]

If you want the win, you got.

[Duncan]

To say, listen, you want to hurt him, you're going to be there to get hurt. But you're going to have to take that chance.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

Otherwise you're just gonna. It's gonna go.

[Matt Serra]

What we're doing now is not working.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, it is a pain. Yes. Every time you come close, you get kicked in the stomach and just, you.

[Joe Rogan]

Know, it's just the conditioning. Oh, nice right hand. The conditioning to fight like this. Oh, he hurt him. He hurt him. He hurt him.

[Duncan]

He did hurt him. And he break his nose. The bridge.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Duncan]

He's trying to fix it. Yeah, it looks like he's trying to straighten it out.

[Brendan Schaub]

Damn it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, his nose is broken.

[Duncan]

Smells it, too. He must have felt it, too. Maybe when he punched him.

[Matt Serra]

What did he just hit him with that?

[Duncan]

I don't know, man, but all of a sudden it's getting weird. Look at that nose.

[Joe Rogan]

That nose is a mess.

[Brendan Schaub]

That's not good. He got.

[Duncan]

It's like it's painted red. Oh, who knows what the he felt if he's big.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God, he's leaking. This is a big round for the champ. Oh, right hand. Another one. Oh, man.

[Duncan]

They say damage doesn't drink.

[Joe Rogan]

Us is such a bulldog. Dude.

[Matt Serra]

Drink is smelling blood now, but you got to be careful.

[Brendan Schaub]

You can't breathe. Broken nose.

[Duncan]

This.

[Joe Rogan]

That's.

[Duncan]

It's a rough game.

[Matt Serra]

Strickland's defense so good.

[Brendan Schaub]

Still good. Still good.

[Joe Rogan]

Duplicity is just wild.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, you can't touch that now.

[Joe Rogan]

Reckless.

[Duncan]

I mean, he's sees him with this nose like this.

[Brendan Schaub]

A little tired. Little tired.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at this style. But the thing is, he never stops coming at you like this. Even though he's dog tired. He's so game.

[Duncan]

Oh, man, this is a nail biter with.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like he has these patterns that he sets up with.

[Duncan]

Man.

[Matt Serra]

Big breath by dd dp.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, Sean's nose is destroyed. Yeah, if he touches him there one more time, it's. Oh, nice. Right hand by Sean. Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

Sean, since he busted his nose, is doing way better. He kind of said it now he's sitting more in the pocket.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he's got a. Oh, he tagged him again. He's got to realize he's in trouble. I mean, he's down. This is like four rounds.

[Matt Serra]

Yep.

[Brendan Schaub]

Wow.

[Matt Serra]

More significant. I get damage done too, man.

[Duncan]

It's like that Rory McDonald knows that.

[Brendan Schaub]

Time I couldn't see.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, the Roy was real with Robbie Lola.

[Brendan Schaub]

He was never really the same after that.

[Matt Serra]

Never.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, right hand. Right hand by Tricus. That was a big one.

[Brendan Schaub]

Can't breathe this. It must be like just. These aren't audio this night.

[Joe Rogan]

Right hand.

[Duncan]

Doesn'T feel like fight ending punches though.

[Joe Rogan]

Drake is so wild. Look at this just exploding, man. The guy's got such cardio for a. A guy who explodes like this. It's so impressive that he can hold up this pace deep into the fourth. Cuz he always looks like he's in the like the brink of slowing down and it never happens. Oh my goodness, man.

[Duncan]

Dude, 40 more seconds of this.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, right hand.

[Duncan]

He's rolling with it. It. But still.

[Joe Rogan]

God, Dris is just swinging for the fences with every punch.

[Matt Serra]

Feel like ever since DRI has hurt his nose, he's getting a little sloppy. He's trying to zero in. Wow.

[Joe Rogan]

He just can't get hit there again, you know, I mean, it's destroyed and he really hasn't been able to hurt all him. He hasn't done one thing that really rocked him.

[Matt Serra]

There's nothing significant by Strickland.

[Duncan]

Like you have to. Even if he does the windmill in the next round, he's got to do something, man. He's got to throw some.

[Joe Rogan]

Stop him.

[Matt Serra]

He's down four rounds.

[Joe Rogan]

He's got to stop four rounds. Look at his nose. Oh, my God. Look at his nose. Dude. It's shattered.

[Duncan]

That's what he tried to do. You saw him trying to push it back into place.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God. It's shattered.

[Duncan]

That's. That's rough, man. Dude.

[Joe Rogan]

All right, hey, listen, you need to finish. You already know that, right? You need to intercept his combination. You can't just stand there and take him off. You got to intercept this combination.

[Duncan]

It's got to be an elbow.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, look at that. Oh, my goodness. Let's go. It's crazy. They had to touch it. That's crazy.

[Duncan]

I think he said he reset it.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, he goes. I said it.

[Duncan]

I said it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but that's how crazy that punch was.

[Duncan]

Gotta take chances. Push that all or nothing. Go out on your shield. That's. That's the only thing you can tell.

[Matt Serra]

I know there's a 220 pound, South African, world class fighter. Take chances. Get crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, get crazy.

[Matt Serra]

Good luck. Oh, hey, before you go out there, you got a broken nose. Have fun.

[Joe Rogan]

He reset it. He's probably had his nose broken in many fights.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

He keeps touching it though, which is not good. It might be like moving around. He might feel the bones moving around.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, man, I'm shooting some takedowns here.

[Duncan]

That's exhausting too. And he can't hold him down, so.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, true.

[Duncan]

You know, he might say it. Yeah, this is working.

[Joe Rogan]

Sean's gotta really hit the gas.

[Matt Serra]

He's gotta really let everything out here.

[Duncan]

Yeah, he's gotta push even if the wide punches just throw.

[Joe Rogan]

But he's so responsible defensively. It's hard for him to just enter when he knows he's open.

[Matt Serra]

I. I know the fan base gonna hate on DDP because they're gonna say it's not exciting. Dude, he's dominated.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, this is exciting.

[Matt Serra]

As it's been a one side show.

[Joe Rogan]

This is exciting as the fans that don't like this are not fans. They're just people want blood.

[Brendan Schaub]

Technical.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's a good fight, man. It's like his strategy is so smart. He chops at the legs constantly.

[Brendan Schaub]

He constantly does off balance switch kick.

[Joe Rogan]

To the body and then to the head. He's landed the bigger shots for sure. There's another one.

[Brendan Schaub]

Bigger shots pressing the action.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. And he's not letting Sean set up. Like Sean always wants to move forward and set up. And he's just constantly chop at the.

[Matt Serra]

Leg, do we switch cage side? Because I'm sure he'd jump in the ring because that's next for sure.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, next. Yeah, that's next. Another spin. Two spins in a row.

[Brendan Schaub]

I'm really excited.

[Duncan]

Oh, the Comzat. That'd be wild, man. He's not changing the way he fights.

[Joe Rogan]

No. And I mean, Kendrick, stop that takedown.

[Matt Serra]

Can homs up. I don't know, around the third, fourth, fifth round, Right?

[Joe Rogan]

Because this guy.

[Matt Serra]

So compelling.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

This guy's so game. I mean, he's always there in the fight.

[Duncan]

I was impressed with Whitaker keeping his calm until he got his face crushed. I'm like, look, he's keeping his calm.

[Joe Rogan]

And then he has whole teeth broken.

[Duncan]

Yeah, it's rough, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Apparently he had a weak jaw anyway, like, that area he broken, I guess. No, I thought it was an injury up. Oh, really? Yeah, he was born.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, he's born something with his two. His bottom teeth.

[Joe Rogan]

So he's had a few of them replaced before. Hopefully they did a good job this time.

[Duncan]

Got a new grill now.

[Joe Rogan]

Screwed him in deep. All right. Sean does not have much here.

[Duncan]

He's not showing anything that can end the fight.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, he's really got to open up, but he doesn't want to get.

[Matt Serra]

KO with that broken nose.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I mean, this is how he fights, right? He fights responsible. He's not going to, like, go reckless.

[Matt Serra]

No, it's just not in his.

[Joe Rogan]

No, his whole DNA. Oh, he tried for a guillotine.

[Duncan]

Imagine he got a Y DNA.

[Matt Serra]

That be hilarious.

[Joe Rogan]

That would be good.

[Matt Serra]

His DNA.

[Joe Rogan]

Sean's got an underrated ground game.

[Matt Serra]

Is he a black? I don't think he's a black.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a black belt. Yes. Yes, he is.

[Matt Serra]

From who?

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know the man.

[Duncan]

It's just. This is the way it's gonna go, though.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Duncan]

You know, you gotta realize you're not.

[Joe Rogan]

Also, it's like, this is the last round, 215 to go. And this has been most of the fight. Like this.

[Duncan]

That's it. Just make a decision. Just throw.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. And you can't wait because you want to try to take this guy out. Like, you got to get this go. But the thing is like. Like you just hit him again on that nose.

[Matt Serra]

I know.

[Duncan]

And he's feeling it, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's gotta suck. Oh, it sucks. Look, he hit it again. It's pouring blood. And now he's only breathing out of his mouth. So he's got his mouth open.

[Matt Serra]

It affects your cardio, like A. Oh.

[Joe Rogan]

Took that kick to the body. That was a hard kick. Dreckus is just on him, man.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, well.

[Joe Rogan]

Crazy fight. Y kick to the body again.

[Duncan]

And.

[Joe Rogan]

Then as soon as Strong wants to get something going out of range, reset.

[Duncan]

Now it's like you're already, like, up, so you might as well just. Just throw.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah, but it's like. It's so hard for him to just open up and put himself in danger.

[Matt Serra]

Not in his nature.

[Joe Rogan]

And he's got a up nose.

[Duncan]

Yeah. Listen, it's always easier when I said. And I get it, but.

[Joe Rogan]

No, it's way easier when you're fighting.

[Duncan]

Yeah, you're wrong.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Oh.

[Duncan]

You got a minute left, though, to make something happen, you know?

[Matt Serra]

Or else, like if this was flipped. And you tell ddp, hey, you got to get him out of there. He's coming out like a South African great white, you know?

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

Cuz that's in his nature.

[Duncan]

Got. You got to throw caution to the wind now, man. Against your nature. Or not.

[Joe Rogan]

40 seconds. Oh, another kick to the.

[Matt Serra]

He just outclassed Strickland.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, Strickland needs something real big. 30 seconds to go, dude.

[Matt Serra]

This fight's over. Les. Francis.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, right hand. Nice.

[Matt Serra]

Unless he taps. Tagged in. Francis. And God.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, job.

[Matt Serra]

Ten seconds left.

[Brendan Schaub]

Even then. Even then.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, no.

[Matt Serra]

Francis.

[Joe Rogan]

I would have loved to have seen Alex at middleweight against tdp. That would have been interesting.

[Matt Serra]

Alex. And so he's gonna fight Hamza. Then you get Alex at 205, and then DDPs. DDPs not become a superstar off this fight, but he beats Hamza. Now we're cooking with G. That was an ass weapon. Technical ass weapon.

[Duncan]

I wonder if there's more to it. I wonder if there was something up with him.

[Matt Serra]

Something. It didn't look like the normal Strickland, right?

[Duncan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But DDP fought real well, man.

[Duncan]

Yeah. I'm not taking it away.

[Matt Serra]

And then Strickland didn't have that gas.

[Joe Rogan]

Usually has. Well, he might have had staff, something. You might have had stuff. Yeah.

[Duncan]

We never know, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

But you're wrong with that one.

[Brendan Schaub]

I was wrong.

[Matt Serra]

Rough night for American.

[Brendan Schaub]

The smart money was on dp, But I have to go with Sean.

[Duncan]

Is it Khamzat versus Jaco Snacks?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Matt Serra]

Because even the press conference DDP goes. I wish I was fighting Hamzat this weekend, but this will do.

[Duncan]

Did we ever see him fight a really good grappler? No, not tomorrow.

[Joe Rogan]

No. We haven't seen DDP fight anybody that level. But Hamza is the Highest level in.

[Duncan]

The sport, but even wrestlers. I don't remember seeing him. Who's he fighting? Sport that's really looking to put him down. We never seen him off his back.

[Joe Rogan]

Boom. It was that big right hand that changed everything. There's a nice elbow, a spinning elbow. This one right here.

[Brendan Schaub]

Boom. That was the up one.

[Matt Serra]

That was the game changer.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, that look at his eyes.

[Matt Serra]

That changed the whole fight.

[Joe Rogan]

Rolled his head back.

[Matt Serra]

Strickland was never the same as that, bro.

[Duncan]

It's rough, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Such a smart strategy, Matt. There's that high sidekick to the face.

[Brendan Schaub]

But he's. He's still very good at taking, you know, getting hit.

[Duncan]

And he gave him a lot to look at there.

[Matt Serra]

What are you saying?

[Brendan Schaub]

He didn't take as much damage.

[Joe Rogan]

But look at his face.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, yeah, that one.

[Joe Rogan]

You mean Sean didn't take as much damage?

[Brendan Schaub]

He took damage.

[Joe Rogan]

He got hit more in this fight than I think any fight. Any fight other than he's able.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's still able to kind of like. It was one big punch that things up.

[Joe Rogan]

He got beat up, Billy.

[Duncan]

Brian is nose is shattered.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he got beat up. He got beat up.

[Brendan Schaub]

One good shot to his face. Yeah, it's up.

[Duncan]

I'll tell you, Drake is. Looks great.

[Brendan Schaub]

What kind of. What kind of. He's got a. That's an operation, right? I mean, he's got to now get it. All set?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Clear. Unanimous decision.

[Matt Serra]

So they probably gave Strickland the fourth round.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yep. Drek is to pussy, ladies and gentlemen.

[Matt Serra]

He's a problem. Be a tough puzzle to figure out.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a tough puzzle.

[Matt Serra]

If someone figure out.

[Joe Rogan]

Very tough fight to figure out. Big for 185 too. That's a big. I want to see that fight, man, that you did a great job of setting up. Throwing that low kick, switch kick to the body. Kept that pace up for the entire five here. And I said it before. Crank that up. I'm going to hear what he says. I gave you my all. I'm sorry I couldn't get him out.

[Brendan Schaub]

Of here, but I hope you guys enjoyed it. I had to get be a bit smarter about it. Thank you, Cindy, for showing me love.

[Joe Rogan]

I know you guys booed me, but to hear this at the end of a fight. He's absolute. Well, Sean is an absolute animal. He's deserving of all life. Thank you, Cindy. You are incredible.

[Duncan]

Nice guy, this guy.

[Brendan Schaub]

Classy. He's a class act.

[Duncan]

Classy.

[Brendan Schaub]

Class act.

[Joe Rogan]

Wrestling allowed for you to win the fight. You said you would not force A takedown. You got won this fight. You won this fight striking. Did you know that you'd be able to do that being that strong stripling in such talent? Strike. Yeah, that was my game plan.

[Brendan Schaub]

I said when he made the fact.

[Joe Rogan]

About striking, I knew that there's a chance he's gonna. He's gonna try and wrestle me.

[Brendan Schaub]

But obviously the man doesn't defend the warfare.

[Joe Rogan]

He was just straight about it. He wants to stay in the bank.

[Brendan Schaub]

And I was willing to give that.

[Joe Rogan]

I tried to force him to make it a wrestling fighter. Then I can engage. I got that takedown. I didn't plan it, but it was there. I took it. And since I made the Achilles quote of making facts, I said, there are no facts. Between lions and men, this is another one of my Achilles and Senti standing across the exit, the octagon.

[Brendan Schaub]

Is there no one else?

[Joe Rogan]

Is there no one else?

[Matt Serra]

Talking to Hamzat. Oh, wow.

[Brendan Schaub]

That's it. Gonna be a different game.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. That's a night. Night when you get touched game.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, it's a very different game.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

C is using wrestling then.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

I mean, I'm probably gonna get tased.

[Joe Rogan]

With that one by coach, but, you know, probably get tased. He always said this coach tases them. They tase them. They tase them. And true. When they do something wrong, they tase them. Really? Oh, yeah. His coach has one of those police.

[Matt Serra]

Things, get arrested in America.

[Brendan Schaub]

Sucks.

[Joe Rogan]

Just said, I'll probably get tased.

[Matt Serra]

That fight wasn't close, fellas.

[Joe Rogan]

Nope. He keeps getting better.

[Duncan]

He's got his endurance. He can't even stop talking. Look at this guy.

[Joe Rogan]

I want to hear what Sean has to say.

[Matt Serra]

We do.

[Joe Rogan]

I hope he doesn't bring up the stage staff. You can't. Right?

[Duncan]

Too soon.

[Matt Serra]

I hate when fighters.

[Duncan]

That's when they say too soon.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Talk about that tomorrow maybe. Maybe DC Asks him. I would definitely ask him. Was that staff? Were you on antibiotics? That would have been probably my first questions.

[Matt Serra]

If you ask it, it's fine.

[Joe Rogan]

If he's like, yeah, I would have said, was there anything surprising, but I.

[Matt Serra]

Don'T deal with staff. But that's not the reason I lost all credit to ddp.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Matt Serra]

Let the fence talk.

[Joe Rogan]

But is that staff? This rematch that you didn't experience in.

[Brendan Schaub]

Fight number one, I'll make this quick. Let me take this for a sec.

[Joe Rogan]

Hey, I love you guys. Man. I broke. When that broke my nose, I was like, oh, that doesn't feel right. Popped it back in place.

[Brendan Schaub]

I kept fighting for you. The Dutch man is a bad. He kicked my ass fair and square drops to him. Take your microphone. D.C. i'm leaving. But hey, you guys, I love you guys.

[Joe Rogan]

You fueled me and I would break my nose for you. All right ladies and gentlemen, give it up. Well, good night, fellas.

[Brendan Schaub]

Good night. It's a good night.

[Duncan]

I had a good time.

[Brendan Schaub]

Well, let's start. You giving a teaching a jiu jitsu class now or are we gonna wait a little bit?

[Duncan]

I do showed it.

[Brendan Schaub]

I need to stretch a little bit.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, Brian.

[Brendan Schaub]

All right.

[Duncan]

Oh man. Good times.

[Joe Rogan]

That was a good time. Thanks for having me down old down the Sean got beat up. Everybody here was kind of repetitive.

[Matt Serra]

I thought it'd be more competitive.

[Joe Rogan]

Very impressive.

[Matt Serra]

He's not to beat that guy.

[Duncan]

Jimmy. You know what and beat me in the pics a little.

[Brendan Schaub]

Did he?

[Duncan]

I think he picked both.

[Joe Rogan]

But now it's crazy. It's like I thought Robert Whitaker was going to give him problems with that style. I really did. I thought Robert Whitaker with his leaping in style and he's like very light on his feet fast as I thought he was going to give him problems and DDP shut that down and then him up caught him with that right hook.

[Matt Serra]

See I I would give DGP the the advantage of a home Hamza right now.

[Joe Rogan]

About to bet on it's hard to say. We don't know what happens.

[Matt Serra]

Question marks. We don't know.

[Joe Rogan]

Hamza just shoots from like 15ft away and gets a hold of your leg.

[Matt Serra]

He didn't do that to Kamaru Usman. Didn't do it to Gilbert Burns. We go in the third, fourth and fifth.

[Brendan Schaub]

He gave Usman for the first three rounds a nightmare. He was yeah.

[Matt Serra]

But he couldn't finish him. That's an older Usman.

[Joe Rogan]

That's true.

[Matt Serra]

That's not a vintage in their prime.

[Brendan Schaub]

He was taking down decisively.

[Joe Rogan]

Who was Hamza supposed to fight? That was a last minute replacement was Usman.

[Matt Serra]

And they put in.

[Joe Rogan]

That's right.

[Matt Serra]

And then they put in Kevin Holland.

[Joe Rogan]

That would have been hard.

[Matt Serra]

UFC was like we're getting backlash. We're getting some backlash here. Let's Kevin you down.

[Joe Rogan]

He's like I guess that would have been crazy.

[Duncan]

Styles make fights and you never seen Drake is fight of a good wrestler and comes out as one of the best.

[Joe Rogan]

And you got to think his endurance is probably going to be better at 85 than it was at 70. Because of the cut. Yeah. For Hamza it's like 85 is really where he should have been all along.

[Matt Serra]

But again he gassed out against Usman. That was 85.

[Joe Rogan]

Usman's a world champion. You know, in the third round, Usman did what a world champion does, he rallied. And then Usman's dangerous standing up and he's bigger.

[Duncan]

Yeah, look at Gilbert too. Gilbert. Gilbert weathered the storm and then he gave him hell.

[Joe Rogan]

Dana White confirms Hamza thought Chamaye was next. Yeah, I wonder where that is. That's gotta be Vegas, right?

[Matt Serra]

No, that's gonna be in Saudi Arabia.

[Joe Rogan]

You think so? I think he's got a UAE passport now, I think. Oh, maybe America.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I think he gets to America now. I mean it's not like like share a bullet. Probably never gonna fight in America. You can't let a one eyed fighter. Apparently the UAE is having a problem problem with it too. Yeah, United Arab Emirates.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like when he fights in Abu Dhabi, they're like, hey, you only got one eye. It's kind of crazy. But they still let him do it. Well, they let him do it in Saudi Arabia, you know.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, true.

[Duncan]

He's the captain now.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

Very curious.

[Matt Serra]

What a fight they can make Puzzle.

[Joe Rogan]

MVP is what a puzzle.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean just couldn't do nothing to him. But even on the feed, Ian Gary was getting lit up too.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, Ian Gary had to wrestle.

[Joe Rogan]

He just had to wrestle.

[Duncan]

Gary impressed me even with his loss with shop.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh yeah.

[Duncan]

He was the closest to ending it Great. And he's well rounded.

[Joe Rogan]

Great fight.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, he g be a champion. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, he is champion.

[Joe Rogan]

And you need a fight like that. Super close fight. I mean, you know the biggest disappointment this year, the arman suki and pulling out the day of the fight.

[Duncan]

That do we what the happened there.

[Joe Rogan]

Back se weight cut. I mean you got to think how.

[Matt Serra]

Much I think weight cut.

[Joe Rogan]

How much is that guy cutting to get to 55 and how juicy was.

[Matt Serra]

I'm saying he's on PD. I'm saying juicy like how much muscle.

[Joe Rogan]

He puts a lot.

[Matt Serra]

And then he cut all that weight.

[Brendan Schaub]

He's 57 though, right? He's really short.

[Joe Rogan]

He's probably 58 and he probably walks around 190 jacked. I mean he's thick. You see him off season, he's thick.

[Matt Serra]

You're not and you're not getting that fight. Daniel's like he's back in the line now.

[Joe Rogan]

There's no way that issue.

[Brendan Schaub]

You think it's a weight issue?

[Duncan]

Yeah, I think that he's said something is a way of doing it.

[Joe Rogan]

Like I think number one lightweight arm on super Great and Michael Chandler are negotiations for a fight at Miami.

[Matt Serra]

Oh, it's a tough fight.

[Joe Rogan]

He resumed training, is nearly 100 after a back injury forced him out of the fight. I think it's just the weight. I think you cut that much weight, your muscles just cramped the up and he. He couldn't move.

[Matt Serra]

That's what was happening. Khabib. Remember, he missed a lot. Tony Ferguson kept getting up with his kidneys and all the weight cut.

[Joe Rogan]

Just think about how much weight that is that you're draining out of your body. Like, Suki is probably getting at least 25 jugs of water out of his body. 25. 1 pound jugs of water.

[Matt Serra]

He's not a big guy.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Think about like a 16 ounces, like Pepsi. He's getting 25 of those out of his muscles. That's crazy. I think he's got to be 180. He looks big, man. He's so. And do you see how mobile that guy is when he's doing all his different, like, mobility exercises?

[Matt Serra]

And she's so flexible. Crazy back.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't think so. I think it's all the way.

[Matt Serra]

I think it's a weight that issue.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

155 was hard for me to get to too.

[Joe Rogan]

It was, Isn't it? The worst part of the sport is the. The weight cut that they do that 24 hours before a cage fight. It's so crazy.

[Duncan]

Oh, man. Well, now this guy's at 170 that are like 6 foot 5. I would have been really up to date. They would have been holding my head out.

[Joe Rogan]

Who's that guy that Joaquin Buckley beat? He had to take him down. He was. He was beating him up on top. A big tall dude who was huge. Yeah. It was a dangerous fight for Joaquin. At once he got big for 170. Like real tall.

[Matt Serra]

Super tall. It looked awkward.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Tall and long.

[Brendan Schaub]

I didn't know they had a what.

[Joe Rogan]

Mouth that guy was, boy.

[Duncan]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Joe Rogan]

That guy's good. Dude. I'm telling you. Buckley at once. Six foot five.

[Matt Serra]

What?

[Joe Rogan]

Six foot five. 170.

[Duncan]

No, I. I had to belt it that way.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm five six.

[Duncan]

What would that look.

[Joe Rogan]

Buckley's probably 510. That's crazy. Isn't that crazy, dude? 65, man.

[Matt Serra]

What are you doing? Good 85.

[Duncan]

You flip it around. It's my big head.

[Joe Rogan]

Buckley did a amazing job in that fight. How did he lose that fight? Was it a decision or did he. Do you know why? Do you ever know decision Unanimous.

[Brendan Schaub]

Find out why Zabit just stopped fighting. He was so good.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know, man. He was so good.

[Brendan Schaub]

God, he was good.

[Joe Rogan]

He looked like a world champion.

[Brendan Schaub]

But he became a doctor or something, right? Maybe he decided it.

[Joe Rogan]

I think he did become a doctor. Is he a doctor?

[Matt Serra]

Is he a nurse? He's like a gay lord.

[Brendan Schaub]

Hey, I think he's a doctor.

[Joe Rogan]

I think he's a nurse. He said nurse.

[Matt Serra]

Have to go through some.

[Joe Rogan]

A real doctor.

[Brendan Schaub]

Did he fight at 45? He was like 6:2 or something.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he was tall as Mark Henry.

[Matt Serra]

Say he's the best fight he's ever seen.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. He said he's a 100% world training.

[Matt Serra]

He was like his wild.

[Duncan]

He had. He had a good sparring with. With. With Henzo, with Aljo, at Longos. Really? Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And he throws wild, man.

[Duncan]

He was. He was. He was all. That guy was good.

[Brendan Schaub]

He had it all. Wrestling, striking, everything, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Everything super technical.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, yeah.

[Duncan]

No, he's Dr. Zabit.

[Brendan Schaub]

Maybe he just decided this is not for me. It.

[Matt Serra]

You know, be a smart guy.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

I have other options.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

I mean, how. How's it end?

[Joe Rogan]

Also, if you're a doctor, you really know what's going on with your brain.

[Brendan Schaub]

Correct.

[Joe Rogan]

And you keep sparring.

[Brendan Schaub]

I kept thinking about that. The more we learned, I keep looking at that, and the more we learn, I'm just like five years from now when you have some kind of an AI mouthpiece and they're just able to correlate how much damage.

[Joe Rogan]

When is the comeback, Zabi? Oh, footage.

[Matt Serra]

No, he just stays in shape.

[Joe Rogan]

Really? Are you sure?

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Break silence with impressive training clip. Let's see what his training clip looks like. Let's see. Oh, throwing a lot of kicks. It could just be just being in shape, man.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah, probably.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know. Maybe he's looks like he's training again. Look at it, man. I hope he comes back. Dude, he was wild to watch. Yep, he was wild.

[Brendan Schaub]

Did he ever lose?

[Joe Rogan]

Not in the ufc. I don't know if he had any defeats in his career.

[Brendan Schaub]

Amazing.

[Joe Rogan]

Did Zaved have any defeats in his career?

[Brendan Schaub]

Phenomenal.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at Dean Thomas with the plaid shirt on.

[Duncan]

Oh, dude, every time you look, you see Dean Thomas everywhere.

[Joe Rogan]

He's always. He's got the sharpest clothes when he's at the ufc. Like, sometimes you have to comment on clothes.

[Duncan]

Like, he loves to be busy, that guy.

[Joe Rogan]

What is it? Beat earlier than his career on the fc. Oh.

[Brendan Schaub]

Early in his career, but he kind of went out on top.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I mean, who knows? He might not stop.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, you're supposed to be. It was him and Tatya SW 2019.

[Joe Rogan]

Was his last fight. That's crazy. That's six years ago.

[Brendan Schaub]

Long time ago.

[Joe Rogan]

That's six years ago.

[Matt Serra]

He's not coming back. If he did it, it wouldn't be good.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. At what point in time do you say Connor's never coming back? Is it now? Right now? Yeah. You see him like, wow, dude, he's.

[Duncan]

Got more money than God. I. He loves the attention. So, I mean, but are you going to go through a camp and go fight in the cage just for attention?

[Joe Rogan]

What's going on with that left leg?

[Duncan]

Oh, I mean, Chris fought again.

[Joe Rogan]

He did. You know he did. I mean, his career, too late in his career.

[Brendan Schaub]

I don't think anybody's ever come back from that injury.

[Duncan]

He looks healthy, though. I mean, kind of. I mean, he looks healthy. He just looks like he's out of his mouth.

[Brendan Schaub]

I'm just saying that. That injuries really.

[Joe Rogan]

It's the worst. It's the worst.

[Brendan Schaub]

If anybody's ever come back and been the same.

[Matt Serra]

I think Connor would fight if he wasn't getting the attention from BKFC and doing all that wild if I went away.

[Joe Rogan]

There's a PFL heavyweight that snapped his shin and came back and fought well, I think, but he did it when he was younger.

[Duncan]

Yeah, I seen that before. It was in mma. I seen it in kickboxing. It always just made me like.

[Joe Rogan]

You ever see Go K Saki and Tyrone sponsor Sponge? That one. Whoa.

[Duncan]

I'm gonna say yes because you want to show it.

[Joe Rogan]

No, no, no, Tyrone. Sponge just hit him right below the knee and it just snapped like a twig, just like Chris. Dude, that's just like Anderson.

[Duncan]

I remember long ago telling me, he.

[Joe Rogan]

Goes, oh, look at Sean's nose. Oh, my goodness.

[Duncan]

Longo was telling me that he was. Chris was killing the pads that day in the back before they went out. He's like. He was legs. He's a hard kick, Chris.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, well, the sound my friend was at.

[Brendan Schaub]

My friend was at. At LAX and a woman with her husband stepped off and a giant. My truck. One of those black Uber Escalade ran over her foot. Right now watch. It got.

[Joe Rogan]

She.

[Brendan Schaub]

She was a little heavy, so it hit her and she went like that and it got her. So my buddy, strong guy picked her up and he goes, Brian. I go out, he goes, her foot came off, her foot came off. I go, what are you talking about? So she fainted in his arms and her Foot was there. So he picked her foot up.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh my God. It ripped off.

[Brendan Schaub]

And he said, he put it in her lap. He goes, he goes, you're gonna be okay. You're gonna be talking to the whole time. The guy turned out to be really wealthy and my friend thought he's gonna. They took him to the hospital and all that. And I guess they saved her foot. Apparently they sewed it back on, I guess.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh my God.

[Brendan Schaub]

Because he kept in touch with him. He said her foot. They said, guess they.

[Duncan]

What happened to that guy?

[Joe Rogan]

What about the nerves?

[Duncan]

Lorena Bob, she didn't use her foot a lot. What happened to that? Get his dick.

[Matt Serra]

That guy started doing porn.

[Duncan]

I heard Franken Weenie or something. Right.

[Brendan Schaub]

But that is the craziest thing.

[Duncan]

Imagine that.

[Brendan Schaub]

Usually you be. The skin would be hanging off because.

[Joe Rogan]

Her foot fell off.

[Brendan Schaub]

Was off. She had. She had a long dress on.

[Matt Serra]

I guess she was a big girl. She had cankle.

[Joe Rogan]

Big girl. Yeah.

[Brendan Schaub]

But her foot came off.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh my God.

[Brendan Schaub]

It was under. It was like it was on the grass.

[Duncan]

Hold on, is Dean Thomas wearing makeup? No, they just had a close up.

[Joe Rogan]

A little bit on. You look at Gilbert. Yeah, he looks like.

[Duncan]

Yeah, it is Gilbert.

[Joe Rogan]

They always force you to wear that makeup. I don't wear. They always try to get me with the.

[Brendan Schaub]

They don't want you to be oily. That's why. So what I know.

[Joe Rogan]

To me it was always so offensive to wear makeup while dudes whole faces are hanging off.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah. It's wild.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, imagine. Imagine if you're stepping in there and Irini Aldana. Remember that that fight went in the sphere where it was like a hatchet wound. Imagine if I had makeup on and I was interviewing her.

[Brendan Schaub]

You want to. She looked. I've never seen a head like that.

[Joe Rogan]

Irene Aldana.

[Brendan Schaub]

No.

[Duncan]

You're thinking, I've never.

[Joe Rogan]

Crazy.

[Duncan]

I felt bad. She was trying to cover it with a towel and stuff. Joe's like, no, you look fine.

[Joe Rogan]

She's such a great. In her prime. She was a monster.

[Brendan Schaub]

Oh my God, she was a monster.

[Joe Rogan]

That division, man, that 115 pound women's division. Woo. There's some banger fights in that division. Maybe the best division in the sport for women.

[Brendan Schaub]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, in terms of like wild fights, not a lot. Not much competes with that.

[Duncan]

That's what made you bring a feeling Davis, by the way.

[Joe Rogan]

You just watched that the other day. Yeah, well, my friend Jake was talking to me about it and then I watched it. He said, dude, she just ran over Mackenzie Durham. Was like, really, like, that's impressive. And then I watched it last night on YouTube.

[Duncan]

Jitsu is good. I had it down. She did a seminar my place, too.

[Joe Rogan]

How about that hip toss, too?

[Duncan]

Oh, it's beautiful.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God. She has judo background, right?

[Brendan Schaub]

She started.

[Duncan]

Yeah, she has a judo background too, but yeah, and she's, you know, I think mackenzie's so good in jiu jitsu that she thinks. She could not thinks, but she's good at squirming out of stuff and everything. But she had that. She locked her up tight, and that.

[Joe Rogan]

Top pressure was nasty. Oh, so technical, so good.

[Duncan]

She's got very good jiu jitsu, that girl.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like jiu jitsu, like, as just a sport as, you know, like, you look at the highest of highest level guys right now. It's so exciting. And. And now that, like, cgi, like Craig Jones Invitational is giving out a million bucks. Oh, my God, they're so good. That's one thing I really like about one fc. You know, they had all those just straight up grappling matches. Like Mikey, remember Mikey match? He tapped. That dude's ripped that dude's knee apart. And he wouldn't tap.

[Brendan Schaub]

I've ever seen.

[Joe Rogan]

Remember that dude? He just kept ripping it apart and you know, his knee's gone, it's gone on, and he won't tap, and it's just rip, crack, pop. And Mikey was like. It was disgusting. Like, why'd you make me do that to you?

[Matt Serra]

Now, Mikey signed with the ufc, right?

[Joe Rogan]

Yep.

[Matt Serra]

Not for fighting for.

[Joe Rogan]

No, for just for Fight Pass. Those Fight Pass invitationals, which is great that they're doing that. It's great.

[Brendan Schaub]

His guard is the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life. Mikey's.

[Duncan]

I've never seen it, like, so funny, man. There's so many tournaments now more than ever, but I still enjoy watching it used in MMA more than anything.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Duncan]

I mean, that Damian Maya versus Ben Askren fight.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God.

[Duncan]

Jake Shields versus David.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, one of the biggest travesties of all time.

[Duncan]

What's that?

[Joe Rogan]

When they took Damian Maya off of Carl usman's back.

[Duncan]

Oh, 100.

[Joe Rogan]

100.

[Duncan]

Oh, that. That arm was just stopping him from taking a full. And you can't hold that forever.

[Joe Rogan]

You can't hold that forever.

[Duncan]

Separated that stink about.

[Joe Rogan]

That was infuriating.

[Duncan]

He could have been a champion.

[Joe Rogan]

You had Kamaru Usman. He had that left hook over the top early on the fight dry. And he's basically taking his Back and Kamaru's in deep water. And Kamaru's only loss up until that point was his first fight, Rear Naked Choke.

[Duncan]

And it was climbing the round and everything.

[Joe Rogan]

And it's Damien Maya.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Who's like one of the greatest stranglers.

[Brendan Schaub]

Of all time is gonna happen.

[Joe Rogan]

He was one of the greatest stranglers of all time. I mean, just phenomenal Jiu jitsu.

[Duncan]

His fight versus Ben Askren was fun because it was both. It was almost like a throwback where one guy's using more because standing up, they both kind of null if they both didn't do too much. But one guy's using Asha, Grammy sweeps, Uma Plata reversals. Pure Jiu jitsu. And then you got Ben Askren using all his. He's doing the big takedowns. So it was just such a style versus style type fight, you know? Know.

[Joe Rogan]

Great.

[Brendan Schaub]

It gives you appreciation for how good Gordon Ryan is. Like, all these amazing guys.

[Joe Rogan]

So, like, what are the big fights that are coming up next? Like, what do we got, Alex? So we don't know what's going to happen at lightweight now. I hope, as crazy as it sounds, I hope Ilia goes up to 55. I really do. Volkanovsky, Diego Lopez, 45.

[Matt Serra]

I'll take that.

[Joe Rogan]

Ilia goes up to 55. I don't care if he only defended the title one time or didn't agree. Who cares?

[Brendan Schaub]

You want Eli to fight Mak?

[Duncan]

Let's go face a couple of those guys first, like you just said.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it'd be nice. But also, who cares? Let's go. Let's go. That's if you want to make the big fight for July. You want to make that big fight in July. Is it the Volkanovsky rematch? I don't know. I think Volkanovsky's people want to probably see him win one where he gets KOed by Islam in the first fight, he gets KOed by Islam in THE second fight. Fight.

[Matt Serra]

Yeah, I don't see him fight to appear.

[Joe Rogan]

You want to see him. You want to see him fight, you know, well, he gets. Excuse me. He gets beaten by Islam in the first fight, he gets KO'd in the second fight, and then it gets KO by Ilia. So two KO losses in a row, one decision kind of is. Even though he's a legend, you kind of want to see him beat. A contender, maybe.

[Matt Serra]

And Diaz.

[Joe Rogan]

I wouldn't hate a rematch. No, I wouldn't hate a rematch.

[Matt Serra]

It's not Must see tv. No one's asking for it.

[Joe Rogan]

It's one of those ones where I Hope Alex is 100% and I want to see it should be. He shouldn't have fought him back quickly after getting Ko by Islam.

[Matt Serra]

Terrible idea.

[Joe Rogan]

3 months, 4 months later took a shot. And so he took a shot.

[Matt Serra]

So if you want to do a big July card you would do. You could do that. Makachev Hamzat versus Drot DDP Jon Jones. And.

[Joe Rogan]

That be the greatest card of all time. You imagine Drus. Do two guys go up? Dris goes up. Ilia goes up. Dris vs but then again, look ankle. I was tough, man. That ain't a givy. That ain't a gimme. That's a tough fight.

[Matt Serra]

Super tough.

[Brendan Schaub]

I mean Uncle's wrestling is going to be a problem for Alex.

[Joe Rogan]

But here's.

[Matt Serra]

He's not really a wrestler.

[Joe Rogan]

Not really a wrestler. He's more of a striker. And he said he's going to knock him out standing until he feels that. Oh, look at that.

[Brendan Schaub]

That.

[Joe Rogan]

110. 110 even fight Dan Hooker. Justin Gage is going to be wild.

[Duncan]

That is gonna be.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, what is this? What days? This is March.

[Duncan]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes, March. Let me see what else is on that card. Oh, my good. Mauricio Rufy and King Green, bro. Rufy's nasty. Connor, that guy's good.

[Duncan]

Luffy is nasty.

[Joe Rogan]

He's good, man. That's a great fight. That's a great fight. Fight. Nice. I like it.

[Duncan]

That's another one that just falls short. Is that Alex Morano?

[Joe Rogan]

It's good, man. He's good.

[Duncan]

Sometimes he gets a couple stumbles, but another guy that's. He reminds me of Matthews a little bit where he's got the really good stand up and he. And he's got. I like his jiu jitsu a lot too.

[Joe Rogan]

Some good fight nights. Canier and Rodriguez. That's a good fight. Oh my God, bro. Cejudo and Songa Dong is a tough fight for Sahudo. Songa Dong is dangerous, man. I thought he was. That guy's good. When is that? He was. But he can't. He wants to come back. He can't give him 20 seconds that juice. Oh, that is. That is real soon Brendan Allen.

[Duncan]

Oh, that's that Jean Silva's nasty.

[Matt Serra]

Donald Cruz. He retired.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Yeah. He ripped his shoulder apart.

[Matt Serra]

Poor Curtis Blades.

[Duncan]

Oh, that sucks with Dominic. He always had some problems with health is getting him.

[Brendan Schaub]

Barbosa's still fighting.

[Joe Rogan]

Still fighting.

[Brendan Schaub]

Still fighting.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, man. He's still good too. This is crazy. How about Ricky Simone's still on the heat. All right, let's wrap this up. Bring it home. Fun times. Matt, Sarah, thank you very much for joining us.

[Duncan]

Thanks, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Beautiful to have you, brother.

[Duncan]

Appreciate the invite, man. Always good channel on YouTube.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, thank. I'm so glad you're doing a podcast, dude.

[Duncan]

I'm having fun. All that you were goofing on me about.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Duncan]

If you guys like that nerd, come to me. I'm your guys.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. Brandon, sh. Tell everybody. Drive fast all.

[Matt Serra]

Drive fast all gas dot com. Find the kid.

[Brendan Schaub]

There it is. I'll be in Minnesota. This week is coming weekend house comedy. And then I'm in Danny improv next.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's go. All right, bye, everybody.

[Duncan]

Fun stuff, guys.

[Joe Rogan]

It.