#5 The John Clay Wolfe Show 01/23/16 Hour 2

Summary

The John Clay Wolfe Show – Episode #5 (01/23/16 Hour 2)

Airdate: February 11, 2026
Host: John Clay Wolfe
Main Theme: Cars, culture, and candid conversation—live auto appraisals, auto dealer insights, personal stories, and the playful irreverence the show is known for.

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Episode Overview

This episode strikes the signature Wolfe balance of cars, humor, pop culture, and listener call-ins. John takes live calls to appraise and discuss cars, dives into the realities (and pitfalls) of the car market and Carfax reports, shares wild “S Found in Cars” moments, and mixes in topical banter about the band Eagles, used car values, and America’s best cars. Throughout, the tone is sharp, cheeky, and conversational—part car pro, part stand-up comic.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Remembering Glenn Frey & The Eagles

• [00:19]–[01:55]
• John reminisces about the Eagles’ enduring legacy, sparked by the recent passing of Glenn Frey. He mentions his cousin Janie Beggs, who was once married to Frey, teasing stories from “the glory days” of the Eagles.
• Tone: Affectionate nostalgia mixed with irreverent humor.

“Glenn Frey kicked the can this morning. Well, not this morning, but, I mean, this week...My cousin Janie Beggs, I got to get her up here and tell her Eagle story. She was married to Glenn Frey for about five years...” — John Clay Wolfe (00:31)

2. Live Car Appraisals & Listener Q&A

• Throughout the episode, John fields calls about selling/buying used vehicles.
• He gives honest, rapid-fire appraisals, explaining both his logic and the realities of the wholesale market.

Saturn Aura Appraisal

• [02:19]–[04:00]
  • 2009 Saturn Aura, leather, 81k miles—Caller wants $5,550, John offers $4,000 due to Saturn’s defunct status and parts availability.
  • Explains the difference between retail and wholesale value.

“The neat thing about me is I'll show up. I'll have a guy at your doorstep Monday with a check in his hand if you've got a title.” — John (03:16)

Honda Accord Price Reality Check

• [04:00]–[07:29]
  • Caller thinks dealer is overcharging. John walks through real dealer costs and fair offers—delivers candid advice about negotiating (“If you offered them 14 [k], you probably get it bought.”)
  • Hilarious “hook a brother up” with a dealer's direct cell—“He's got your weed, dog. He's ready.” (06:51)

F-150 Appraisals and Hard Bargaining

• [07:42]–[09:54], [18:47]–[23:29]
  • Two calls about Ford F-150s; detailed option/mileage breakdowns. John explains hassle-free selling vs. wrangling for a better private-party price.
  • Real talk about overpaying and market drops.

“The difference between you know and you can you get 33 [k]? Maybe. But will you have to run ads and jack with a bunch of people...that goes along with making a big purchase?” — John (09:02)

Corvette Convertible Dilemma

• [32:42]–[37:26]
  • ‘14 manual Corvette convertible, ultra-low miles. John educates on market preference (autos sell better than sticks), youth/sex appeal, and honest wholesale offer.
  • Hilarious “perfect woman” age calculation for Corvette owners.

“Let's take 62 divided by 2 is a woman half your age plus 7. That's my math on the perfect woman for you, Dale...she's not gonna want to drive a stick.” — John (33:50)

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3. Carfax Realities, Accidents & Value

• [09:54]–[14:57]
  • John rails about how minor issues can kill a car’s resale value due to Carfax entries.
  • Tells a hard-luck dealer story about hail repair, drilled holes, and a 20% value drop from “structural damage” on Carfax.
  • Introduction of new company “True Frame” offering Carfax repair/contest services.
  • Strong stance on need for Carfax reform/class action.

“Carfax has become the FICO score of the world...At least get it right. And when you don't have it right, open your mind up...They need to get their asses sued off so that they straighten up and quit gestapo-ing people around.” — John (14:02)

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4. “S Found in Cars” Segment

• [28:07]–[32:36]
  • Detail of ongoing game where staff finds odd items left in used cars (this week: “fresh as F” sticker on a matte black Cadillac).
  • John shows off deductive reasoning guessing the car (correctly)—turns into a riff about Krylon paint jobs and mileage guesses.

“For you and your homeboy to grab Krylon and do that to a car, you gotta—it's got to be a 500 sled to them. But 101 on that...that's seven thousand dollar rig.” — John (32:09)

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5. Mileage Myths, Certification, and When to Sell

• [23:31]–[28:08]
  • Caller asks if 90k mileage cutoff is “real” for resale—John confirms and explains how “hard outs” have moved from 60k to 80k miles as cars have improved.
  • Offers practical advice on certified resale, values plummeting after certain thresholds.

“That 80,000 mile hard out...used to be 60, but the cars have improved...Audi, definitely sell it if you’re in the market before it hits 80...once it crosses 90, it farts and falls, and then once it crosses 100, it throws up on itself.” — John (25:36, 28:08)

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6. Oil Prices, Dealerships, and Local Economy

• [20:53]–[23:29]
  • Caller from Lafayette, LA discusses selling Ford F-150 amidst oil industry downturn.
  • John warns about how regional economic shocks impact vehicle values and buying behavior.

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7. Pop Culture, Coffee Stands, and Humor

• [23:01]–[23:19]
  • Sidetracks into topless coffee stands in Washington state, and a theoretical “breastfest burritos” in Texas. Reflects show’s blend of car talk and off-color humor.

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8. Top Ten American Cars—Debate and Banter

• [37:28]–[41:07]
  • Following a Corvette call, John and co-host read and riff on AskMen’s top ten American cars list, arguing the merits of each (Thunderbird, Firebird, Viper, Eldorado, Mustang, Corvette, etc.).
  • John maintains “the new body Corvette” is likely America’s best-ever car.

“I said Corvette. Yes, I agree...the new body Corvette...technology, it's unbelievable.” — John (40:15, 41:33)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On why Saturns are low-value used cars:
  “They bankrupted back in 08 and they quit making them and they're hard to get parts for and they're just not an easy sell. That's all. Good, good car.” — John (03:29)

• On Carfax effects:
  “That’s a twenty thousand dollar heater off of that.” — John, on a $60k Lexus flagged for frame damage due to hail repair holes (11:36)

• On auto-market realism:
  “The market does, you know...once it crosses 90, it farts and falls, and then once it crosses 100, it throws up on itself.” — John (28:08)

• Dealer street wisdom:
  “When they start trying to sell me ‘come drive it’...they want you to fall in love with it, they want you to pay their price...I won’t be in business very long if I start using emotion. I got to stick to...the numbers.” — John (41:02)

• Pop culture moments:
  “We need some drops from The Big Lebowski. I hate the Eagles, man… Turn that off. I hate the Eagles.” — John (17:43)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------------|----------------| | Glenn Frey/Eagles segment, personal stories | 00:19–01:55 | | Saturn Aura appraisal/caller negotiation | 02:19–04:00 | | Accord caller: used car pricing reality | 04:00–07:29 | | F-150 Platinum appraisal, price vs. hassle | 07:42–09:54 | | Carfax pitfalls and True Frame discussion | 09:54–14:57 | | Oil industry downturn and LA values | 20:53–23:29 | | “S Found in Cars”—matte black Cadillac/DTS | 28:07–32:36 | | Corvette call—stick vs. auto / best American car | 32:42–37:26 | | Top ten American cars—debate and nostalgia | 37:28–41:07 |

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Final Thoughts

This hour of “The John Clay Wolfe Show” delivers the program’s trademark vehicle expertise, genuine advice, and irreverent fun. From sharp takes on the car market to pop culture asides and practical selling tips, it’s part informative, part car-culture comedy club—never boring, always “fresh as F.”

Transcript

[John Clay Wolf]

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[John Clay Wolf]

To launch their podcasts. Launch your podcast on Podbean today. Now back to the John Clay Wolf Show. Hit him up right now. 1-800-800-Radio. This is the John Clay Wolf Show. 800-800-723-4. I am not already gone. I'm only halfway through. We've got another hour and a half of the program this morning. It is just a chill Eagles Saturday, enjoying our recollection of Eagles number one selling album of all time anywhere. More so than abba's Greatest Hitch, which, I mean, abba's Greatest Hits is a pretty fierce competition. But that. That 1970 to whatever greatest hits LP. Yeah. Glenn Frey kicked the can this morning. Well, not this morning, but I mean, this week. My cousin Janie Beggs, I got to get her up here and tell her Eagle story. She was married to Glenn Frey for about five years, and she's. And I've told her this, like when we've been at parties and stuff, she starts rolling and telling me because she was there during the glory days of their run. I need to get her in the studio and tell you guys what she's told me about living with him. Pretty cool. 800-800-7234 or go to givemetheven.com JD is on vacation this week and next week. And with JD Goes KC Kasem. For those of y' all who did not know, Casey Kasem is dead. And JD Is actually Casey. Well, he.

[Co-host or Producer]

No, no, he. He channels.

[John Clay Wolf]

Channels.

[Co-host or Producer]

Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's not so much him.

[John Clay Wolf]

He just channels him. We had already Lane on the phone a minute ago, and then we lost him. I guess the snow killed him.

[Co-host or Producer]

You know what? That's a possibility. And they're saying there's some power lines down and three people. There's people stranded on the mid Atlantic.

[John Clay Wolf]

Maybe he finally did die. Austin, Good morning. You're on the air.

[Caller]

Hey, how's it going?

[John Clay Wolf]

Good. What you got?

[Caller]

I've got a 2009 Saturn Aura.

[John Clay Wolf]

Aura. Wait, is that the car?

[Caller]

Yeah.

[John Clay Wolf]

Is it leather or cloth?

[Caller]

Leather. Leather.

[John Clay Wolf]

How many miles? 81 V6 or 4 cylinder.

[Caller]

O don't know.

[John Clay Wolf]

XC or XR.

[Caller]

Let me go back behind my car.

[John Clay Wolf]

I don't even know if they've got the tags on the back. So. Does it Have a sunroof?

[Caller]

Yeah.

[John Clay Wolf]

Does it have a car? Does it have a clean. Does it have a clean carfax or do you know?

[Caller]

Yeah, it does.

[John Clay Wolf]

Anything wrong with it?

[Caller]

No.

[John Clay Wolf]

You know, does 3,500 buy it?

[Caller]

I was thinking more five. Five. Five fifties.

[John Clay Wolf]

That's retail. I'm wholesale. I'm not saying you're wrong, but the neat thing about me is I'll show up. I'll have a guy at your doorstep Monday with a check in his hand if you've got a title.

[Caller]

Okay, well, I mean, is it the miles is bad or.

[John Clay Wolf]

No, no, no, it's just the Saturn. I mean, you know, they bankrupted back in 08 and they quit making them and they're hard to get parts for and they're just not an easy sell. That's all. Good. Good car.

[Caller]

But I mean, if it looks nice, I mean, would you if I sent you all the pictures? Everything looks good. Tell me, did you get a four?

[John Clay Wolf]

Yes.

[Caller]

Okay, so. All right, well, I'll go to.

[John Clay Wolf]

Give me givemetheven.com and. And if it's got a clean carfax and a straight car, I'll write you check for 4,000.

[Caller]

All right, thanks.

[John Clay Wolf]

Thanks. Bam. 8008-0072-3480-0800 radio. Lars, you want to buy an Accord? I don't know if I can help you. I don't sell cars to the public, but I can maybe point you in the right direction.

[Caller]

But the price, and the price is okay. I think they're overcharging me.

[Co-host or Producer]

You at the dealer right now?

[Caller]

I'm sorry?

[Co-host or Producer]

Are you there at the dealer right now?

[Caller]

No, no, no, no, no, I'm not.

[John Clay Wolf]

Is it a six?

[Caller]

It's a four cylinder.

[John Clay Wolf]

Is it two door or four door?

[Caller]

Four.

[John Clay Wolf]

Leather. Cloth.

[Caller]

Cloth.

[John Clay Wolf]

Sunroof. Yes.

[Caller]

40,000 miles.

[John Clay Wolf]

Sunroof. Yay or nay?

[Caller]

No, no, no. Center.

[John Clay Wolf]

40 clicks. Okay. They paid. They've got 12 grand in this thing, tops. So they. They probably gave 11 grand for it at the sale or they traded for it at 10 and then they ran it through the shop and they spent $800 on it and then they packed it. 512 grand is what they own the car for. What do they want for it?

[Co-host or Producer]

Can we guess?

[Caller]

17.

[Co-host or Producer]

Oh, man, I was going to say 15.

[John Clay Wolf]

Tell me. It's one of those dealerships that like, advertises, will treat you like family. Come see. Come see us. We'll treat you like family. Is it certified?

[Caller]

Yes.

[John Clay Wolf]

Okay, well then they've got more than that in it. Because the certification package is another thousand. Eleven. What? I say 11, 12, 13. They may have with pack. They may have 14 in it. It's still. You're not gonna get it bought any cheaper as a certified Honda than less than 14. If you offered them 14, okay, you probably get it bought. What city are you in?

[Caller]

Houston.

[John Clay Wolf]

Okay, I'm gonna give you the number of a dude. You, you want the number of my, of my dope man? You mean hook a brother up?

[Co-host or Producer]

You're gonna hook him?

[Caller]

Yeah, hold on. I gotta get a pin.

[John Clay Wolf]

Let me hook a brother up here in a kroger.

[Caller]

Come ball 10. Here in a Kroger. In line at Kroger.

[John Clay Wolf]

Go ahead. I'll give you the number to my drug dealer.

[Caller]

That's great.

[John Clay Wolf]

Hang on just a second, let me find it. Sam Vandergriff.

[Co-host or Producer]

Dope deal going down.

[John Clay Wolf]

Okay.

[Caller]

Hopefully I get two deals.

[John Clay Wolf]

214-336-1165. That's his cell number. 214-3333-6116. Name Sam.

[Caller]

Okay.

[John Clay Wolf]

Good dealers never give out their last names. And say the wolf says, John Wolf gave me your number and said you won't screw me on a Honda. These guys are trying to pop me and I live in Houston. Do you all deliver? And he'll. He'll hook a brother up. He's got, he's got your stuff. He's got your weed dog. He's got it. He's ready.

[Caller]

My first time listening to your show, by the way.

[John Clay Wolf]

Oh, how did you. Were you just scanning through the dial and tripped into it?

[Caller]

Well, no, I, I listen to sports radio all the time. And unfortunately on, on Monday or Monday, on the weekend, I got time tighter, which is, you know, home repair. And then on the other one I got outdoors. So I switch it to y' all because I believe my actually works on your station on Thursdays. Anytime I say.

[John Clay Wolf]

Oh, good.

[Caller]

In here in Houston.

[John Clay Wolf]

Cool, cool, cool. We've been doing this for 10 years total and 5 years in Houston on this station and well, I'm used to.

[Caller]

Listening to AM for, for sports radio and then.

[John Clay Wolf]

Oh, you're, you're an AM guy? Yeah. Good. Well, call, Call Sam. He'll hook a brother up. Thanks for calling. 8008-0072-3480-0800-radio kit. Good morning, you're on the air.

[Caller]

Hey, hey.

[Musical Interlude / Voice]

Hey.

[Caller]

How you doing this morning?

[John Clay Wolf]

Ah, just hanging, you know, just, just half assing it. Just rolling.

[Caller]

Okay, I have a 2013 for F150 Platinum.

[John Clay Wolf]

Two wheel drive or four.

[Caller]

Four wheel drive, 5.0 liter.

[John Clay Wolf]

Okay.

[Caller]

29,500 miles.

[John Clay Wolf]

What color?

[Caller]

Black. Black and stainless steel.

[John Clay Wolf]

And does it have the power running boards or non power running boards?

[Caller]

Yes, it does have a power.

[John Clay Wolf]

Typically platinums with power running boards have everything else. They've got the navigation, the sunroof. That works?

[Caller]

Yes, everything.

[John Clay Wolf]

All right. Everything? Everything. What you got everything? 31,000.

[Co-host or Producer]

You like 31,000?

[Caller]

31. 31,000.

[John Clay Wolf]

Does that work?

[Caller]

Okay, I was looking for a little more than that, but what you looking for? 1,000.

[John Clay Wolf]

What are you looking for?

[Caller]

I might give a little more about 34 or 35.

[John Clay Wolf]

You're looking a little long for me. Not today, but I would bump to 32.

[Caller]

Okay.

[John Clay Wolf]

And like I said earlier to the guy, I mean the difference between you know and you can you get 33? Maybe. But will you have to run ads and jack with a bunch of people and they'll have to call the bank and talk to the wife and all the stuff that goes along with making a big purchase. I'm. Do you have a payoff?

[Caller]

Yes, it's mine. No, no, no. I paid off already.

[John Clay Wolf]

So you got a title? I got a check. I've got a check in hand. We could do a title for check swap. And I'm assuming this got a clean carfax. If it's got a dirty Carfax, I'm like 28 grand. Okay. All right, well, I will give. I'll give 32. If you'll sell it for 32, I'll get you a check Monday for 32.

[Caller]

Okay. Okay. Let me think about. I, I go on the. Well, I go on the website and.

[John Clay Wolf]

Then put, put it in there. Kick tires. Think about it. 800, 800 radio. Go to. Give me the VI N. Givemetheven.com thanks kit. Just like what he did. You can go to givemetheven.com and do all that online. We have a room full of buyers that will just email you back an offer. We do our whole thing sight unseen. We're a virtual company. We're a dot com. But it becomes real when we show up at your house with a trailer and a check. For real. For reals, dog. Remember all these numbers I'm throwing around? I'm assuming good Carfax. We when it has accident history on the Carfax right out of the gate, I discount them 20%. And then I start listening to the story. If the story's not bad and we can prove that, then it's going to get better. If it's got a blown airbag and it's on the Carfax. It's going to get worse. If it's got structural damage, frame damage, it's going to get worse. Hey, I know a guy's Charlie, get this. So he buys a $60,000 Lexus and it had some hail. He's a dealer and you know when the hail guys repair hail, they drill holes to get their tools in to weird places. And they drill holes in weird places where you can't see it, little itty bitty holes. And they slide their dent tools in there and they push all the dents out. Anyway, he sends it to Mannheim auction to get a CR condition report because he's gonna sell it at the auction. He does what I do and they find one of the little holes where they did the hail repair. And they said, oh, it's in a, it's in a structural point. And they tagged it frame and structural. So now the sixty thousand dollar car on the carfax, if you pull the carfax it reads structural frame damage and he can't get it off. That's a twenty thousand dollar heater off of that.

[Co-host or Producer]

Just trying to do some PDR on it. Should have at least done PDR instead.

[John Clay Wolf]

Well, he did do pdr. That's pdr, that's paintless. Different. No, those PDR guys, you never look at them after we get the dents done, you got to look around. They drill holes?

[Co-host or Producer]

Well, no, but if it's truly just paintless, then they don't drill any holes.

[John Clay Wolf]

Okay.

[Co-host or Producer]

They have their little. It's like a glue pull basically.

[John Clay Wolf]

Oh, the suction cup.

[Co-host or Producer]

Yes. Yeah, they have a glue pool and they'll pull them out. But these probably weren't. Their dents are too big to be.

[John Clay Wolf]

Able to push and dense with tools. Yeah. Frame damage, structural damage. So it reads on the Carfax like it got hit by an Amtrak train. Oh man. And I was like, man, this thing's gonna bring like, you know, 40 grand. He's like, I know. So remember that when we're sending cars to Mannheim because they're not going to work with us and they're gonna. Tough, tough. That scared. That story made me angry, man.

[Co-host or Producer]

It does. Well that's actually good to know because when we do have something like that, hey, don't drill.

[John Clay Wolf]

Just cause it had paintless dent repair doesn't mean it's a bad car. Doesn't mean it's worth less. All these cars were metal in the beginning, boys and girls. The they were molten lava. And they framed them up and cnc machined and cut and welded and I mean, you know, it's. I understand rebuilt cars and I understand real bad hit cars. But what really gets my goat is the, the bumper paint from a parking lot scratch that. Gets hit on Carfax's accident history. There's a company coming out to straighten this out. It's called. What's it called? True Frame. True Frame. Yeah. They want to start advertising on the show. I said, hang on, you know, get your system locked down. But kind of like credit repair, they're gonna start repairing carfaxes and contesting Carfax and cleaning up Carfax finally. Because if you have a bad carfax on your car and we have it all the time with, with individuals and they have a stupid damage. That was 500 bucks and now it's got accident history. On the Carfax shopping cart. It should say very minor damage, but it just says accident history. Dude, that blows that car. I mean, it wrecks them out 20, 20%. And it's not fair and it's wrong. And Carfax needs to change their practices and they need pressure to do it. And I'm surprised they hadn't had a class action lawsuit against him yet because they've cost individuals gazillions of dollars and they're charging everybody to do that anyway. 800, 800 radio. 800, 800 radio. Carfax has become the FICO score of the world. The credit reporting agency of cars. And that's all fine and it needed to happen, but at least get it right. And when you don't have it right, open your mind up to try to get it right. They need to get their asses sued off so that they straighten up and quit gestapo in people around. Because if you've tried to deal with them and get something off your car that you knows right, and they're like, no, tough, tough, tough. And you get lost in the eternal hold and emails and they don't. They don't care. They don't care, man. They're not down for the little guy there's making that money, counting that profit. We'll be right back.

[Musical Interlude / Voice]

Wa. Mama always told me not to look into the eyes of the sun. But mama, that's where the fun is. Any sack and rolling stone creature from the east sets dethroned. The dictate bone hit it in its founding bone. That's where they expect it. East. That's the newborn chaperone standing in the corner watching the young girls dance. It's the fresh stone. Moonstone was Messing with his frozen zone and mining microbes. She got down but she never called Touch is gonna make it through the night.

[John Clay Wolf]

Now back to the John Clay Wolf Show. Hit him up right now. 1, 800, 800 radio. This is the John Clay Wolf Show.

[Musical Interlude / Voice]

There's nothing we can do Everybody wants to touch somebody if it takes all night Everybody wants to take a little chance make it come out right.

[Caller]

There'S.

[John Clay Wolf]

Gonna be a heartache we need some drops from the Big Lebowski. I hate the Eagles, man. Do you remember that?

[Co-host or Producer]

That's right.

[John Clay Wolf]

He got.

[Co-host or Producer]

Oh, yeah.

[John Clay Wolf]

Just hates the Eagles. Turn that off. I hate the Eagles.

[Co-host or Producer]

Burnt out by it.

[John Clay Wolf]

Just. Just overplayed. Agreed. This is the most overplayed band of all time, isn't it? Yeah, but I mean, I still love it. Oh, no, no. I love it. I. I still don't. The long run. I'm surprised. I liked him so much when I was a kid. I'm thinking back high school. I mean, this band lasted with me from 5 years old till now. Eagles greatest hits number one. Eagles greatest hits number two is always in my car. And when I'd lose the CD or whatever, you know, you go to the music store. What do I get? If I'd lost Scratch, screwed up one of those I always replaced was just a mainstay. Meat and potatoes. Glenn Fries gone. Kyle, good morning. You're on the air.

[Caller]

Yeah, thank you. Look, the Big Lebowski, man. I'm all about that. You can call me the Dude.

[John Clay Wolf]

The dude is on.

[Co-host or Producer]

It's got a White Russian in his hand right now.

[Caller]

Oh, yeah, exactly. Look, I have a 2013 F150 with about 27,000 miles. It's EcoBoost, four wheel drive. In the south, things are a little bit different with the oil prices, so I'm trying to prepare myself.

[John Clay Wolf]

Is it a leather or cloth rig?

[Caller]

Cloth.

[John Clay Wolf]

So it's a six banger, four wheel drive. EcoBoost.

[Caller]

Which four doors?

[John Clay Wolf]

FX4. Just an XLT.

[Caller]

XLT.

[John Clay Wolf]

Okay. How many?

[Caller]

Well, I don't know.

[Musical Interlude / Voice]

I don't.

[Caller]

I don't know what that means. So. I know I have four wheel drive because I pull people out of the ditch all the time.

[John Clay Wolf]

All right, it's. It's a mid-20s truck with those miles on it.

[Caller]

It's 27343.3 as I'm talking to you right now. It'll be a little bit more later.

[John Clay Wolf]

I forget what displacement size the EcoBoost. Is that a 3.5? Or do you mean, do you know, on the Leaders.

[Caller]

I can. You know, if I wasn't driving, I pull out my. My sheet in the glove compartment, I'd.

[John Clay Wolf]

Tell you I'll give 25 grand for it.

[Caller]

Okay, well, that's not gonna help me out very much. I appreciate.

[John Clay Wolf]

You gotta pay off. What city are you calling out of?

[Caller]

I don't have a payoff. I mean, I bought it. I bought it two years ago, and I paid $46,000 for it.

[John Clay Wolf]

And it's cloth?

[Caller]

Yes.

[John Clay Wolf]

Does it have navigation or sunroof or fx4? I mean, fx2 or.

[Caller]

No, it does. I don't know what fx4 and fx2.

[Musical Interlude / Voice]

Means.

[Caller]

But I don't have navigation. I don't have any of that stuff.

[John Clay Wolf]

What city are you in?

[Caller]

Louisiana.

[John Clay Wolf]

That's a state. What city?

[Caller]

Lafayette.

[John Clay Wolf]

Lafayette. How bad are the layoffs in South Louisiana with the oil crisis? Is it got everybody in shock?

[Caller]

You know, I'm not concerned about it right now myself, but, you know, you try to weather the storm.

[John Clay Wolf]

Yeah. You got to prepare for it. And I agree with you. I mean, oil in the 20s. I know it went to the mid-20s last week, and then it popped up to 33, I think, is where it closed out on Friday. But a lot of these, as we've watched these dips, they. They, you know, it. It drops 10 points or 5 points, and then it nudges back up, and then it drops again and it nudges back all the way down. There's a spike and then another decline, and then a spike and another decline. Are we at the bottom at 27? $27 a barrel? Ah, God, you'd think so, but I really thought we were at the bottom in the 30s, too.

[Caller]

Right, I understand that, but look, you offered me $25,000 for the vehicle, and, you know, so did I get, like, massively screwed?

[John Clay Wolf]

Yeah, you got massacred. I didn't want to say that, and I don't want to say the dealership that did it, but, yeah, I mean, something. Did you have a trade in that had negative equity or was there something weird in this deal?

[Caller]

I tried to trade in. I had a 2,000 tundra, and they tried to give me, like, 500 bucks, so I held onto it and sold it on Craigslist for 3,700.

[John Clay Wolf]

Right.

[Caller]

And because it was a good truck, I mean, take care of my stuff based off of the.

[John Clay Wolf]

That tells you. That answers your question. Right. So that. That shows you who you were dealing with. You took something that they hit you at 5 for and you turned it into 35. And if you take the percentage spread on that. They're like, they're like T bar coffee drive thrus wearing bikinis or just pasties. We need some of that done in Texas. I mean or since we're like so close to Mexico, we're all half Mexican. Maybe breastfest burritos like a breakfast burrito hut with naked chicks in it. But they need to be naked.

[Co-host or Producer]

But does the coffee drinker. Do you think that's a popular thing for the coffee drink?

[John Clay Wolf]

They're all over Washington. Look it up. I read a story on it. I was very surprised too.

[Co-host or Producer]

I just don't see the, the type.

[John Clay Wolf]

That drinks coffee to would want that I drink coffee.

[Co-host or Producer]

Well, yeah, but you.

[John Clay Wolf]

Fine, but I'm a little abnormal. Or am I, am I really abnormal or is everybody else just faking it? 8008-0072-3480-0800 radio. Bob, good morning, you're on the air.

[Caller]

Good morning, John. How are you today?

[John Clay Wolf]

I am good. I am good. Tell me about it.

[Caller]

Great, great. I mean love your show. Just keep it, keep it up. You guys are just extremely entertaining Than we try.

[John Clay Wolf]

We try. If they just don't.

[Caller]

I have a question about mileage. Way back when, a number of years ago, I sold a BMW and it had about 95,000 miles. I wound up trading it in and the guy told me that if I would have had 90k or less, it would have kind of fit into a different classification and they would have given me probably a little bit more for the trade. So I got two cars. My wife's car is a 2011 Honda Pilot Touring with 83,700 miles. And I have another one of those Audi A4 premiums and that's got about 78,000 miles. So it's kind of creeping up towards that 90,000. I'm just wondering, is there any truth to that?

[John Clay Wolf]

No doubt all the truth in the world. Yes, yes and yes. And unfortunately in my. I started in this business 20 years ago and the, the hip the car changed colors in our minds when it crossed 60. And now that. Okay, now that line is 80. So a new car dealer will still buy. I sell to dealerships. Right, And a new car dealer will still buy a 70,000mile domestic car from me for their inventory. Not so much an 80000 mile one. So, so, so that 8, that, that 8, that 80,000 mile hard out is it used to be 60, but the cars have improved, they last longer and the Honda's in certification. I don't know where Honda draws the line on certification. So Honda will say can the dealer looks at it, can I certify this car? Because if they can they'll, they'll give Honda thousand dollars for the certification. But the, the package, but they get extended terms, they can get extended financing, they can relight the factory warranty which is a whole different ball of wax and makes the customer real happy, makes the car worth more, bottom line. So the Audi definitely sell it. If you're in the market before it hits 80 and the Pilot, you're there on both of them. You need to, I mean if you're ready to go, I would go now on both of them. The hundred thousand mile mark is a real, is, is indeed a real mark. So whenever the dealership trades for all these dealers, these cars, they make a wholesale or retail decision. Are we going to keep this product, this trade in for the public to, and put our name on it and have to stand behind it? Are we going to wholesale it to John and let him go do what he does and sell it to some Joe Bob's note dealer down on, you know, the bad part of town? And that's, that's, that, that's the mark that you're really talking about. The cars will bring more if they're going to keep them for retail.

[Caller]

Got it.

[John Clay Wolf]

That's where you are.

[Caller]

Sure, sure. I think the, the I bought the Audi, it was a CPO certified pre owned and the pilot I think has a warranty up to 100k. So again we're gonna go to the auto show next week here in Houston and we're gonna be looking at things. But I kind of want to get your take on that barrier if it does indeed exist.

[John Clay Wolf]

Let me look at this pilot real quick. It's an 11 pilot four wheel drive or two.

[Caller]

11 pilot, touring, touring two wheel drive. The only thing that it doesn't have, it's the touring which is the upgraded. It's got leather seats, sunroof, navigation, backup camera, the whole night.

[John Clay Wolf]

Let me give you an example. I'm looking at auction results around the country right now. You've got a 70,000 mile one that's sold in Dallas for 19,300. You've got it. And remember these cars, some have navs, some don't. So that then you have a 75,000 mile one that's sold in Southern California for 21. Then you've got a 78,000 mile one that sold in Southern California for 16,250. That's a big, big, big swing. So two things. It's getting up towards that 80 number. And that I'm going to guess the Southern California car. The second one didn't have as much equipment or maybe had some damage on it. Then we go to. So our average on that data set there is roughly 19 grand. Then we go to 91,000 miles and there's one in Georgia that brought 18,300. And you go to 113,000 miles. And there's one in North Carolina that brought 15 grand. So it's just heading off a cliff. Once it crossed 90.

[Caller]

Once it crosses.

[John Clay Wolf]

90, once it crosses 90, it farts and falls. And then once it crosses 100, it throws up on itself. The market does, you know. Thanks, man. 800-800-7, 2, 3, 4. 800, 800 radio. S found in cars this week. S found in cars. If you go to John Clay Wolf show, just put in on your Facebook thing John Clay Wolf show and hit like we have our s found in cars, which is this week. What it is is all the cars that come and go stuff, Turley finds things in the under the seat, in the glove box, in the trunk. And he pulls them out and shows me the option what he found in the customer's car and says, guess which car this came out of. And typically I'm right. But the past few weeks we've been doing it on our Facebook site. So John Clay Wolf show on Facebook and this week, what's it say? It's just a sticker on a car and it says guess what kind of car this. Oh, fresh as F and F with.

[Co-host or Producer]

Four letter word on the front of the windshield. Mind you, on the front of the.

[John Clay Wolf]

Windshield by the windshield wipers and it's a sticker that says fresh as F. And his options on what kind of car this is, did it come out of an 08 Escalade, an 08 Cobalt or an 08 Cadillac CTS? So I am looking at this picture. Dr. Turley, your fresh as F picture. I can't believe that's on the front windshield.

[Co-host or Producer]

Yeah, that's on the front windshield.

[John Clay Wolf]

I'm looking at the windshield wiper and I'm looking at the seats and the seats are leather and Kobalts typically don't have leather seats. However, the windshield wipers look pretty blah. Mm. And I would think the Escalade windshield wiper would be a little prettier than that. And then that middle piece in the dash I don't recognize from an Escalade. So I'm gonna go with 08 Cadillac CTs.

[Co-host or Producer]

Dammit, John, you're Right again.

[John Clay Wolf]

Okay.

[Co-host or Producer]

I'll be damned. I tried to make it as hard as possible with the photo.

[John Clay Wolf]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Producer]

And let me show you the photo of the vehicle it was on.

[John Clay Wolf]

Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host or Producer]

And look at the paint job on that.

[John Clay Wolf]

Did we buy that car?

[Co-host or Producer]

No, it wasn't. Yeah.

[John Clay Wolf]

That car has a matte black finish.

[Co-host or Producer]

Yes. A Cadillac CTS with a matte black now.

[John Clay Wolf]

And it is fresh as F. Yes.

[Co-host or Producer]

It is fresh as F. But it's not just a matte black that, you know, you put the paint on there kind of stuff.

[John Clay Wolf]

Is it rhino lined? No, it's just Krylon.

[Co-host or Producer]

They pro. They primered it. But look at how they kind of missed some spots.

[John Clay Wolf]

You can see this is just an absolute ghetto. Yes. High as hell on the chronic.

[Co-host or Producer]

Oh, yeah.

[John Clay Wolf]

But it. It's fresh. It's fresh as F. John, I'd like to. I think a better contest would be guess how many miles are on this car.

[Co-host or Producer]

I could tell you.

[John Clay Wolf]

Okay, I'm gonna guess. Okay, don't tell me. So you do know the answer.

[Co-host or Producer]

Oh, yeah, I do know the answer.

[John Clay Wolf]

What year was it?

[Co-host or Producer]

01.08.

[John Clay Wolf]

I don't think that was an 08. Let me see again. You. You pretty certain? Yeah. All right. Here you go. Dude, that's not a cts. That's a dt. That's a dts. Okay?

[Co-host or Producer]

I got my DTS and CTS messed up.

[John Clay Wolf]

Okay? This car, for someone to emasculate and rape a car like this to this level, it had to be cheap. And they didn't have a lot of investment in this car. So I'm gonna. I mean, the number in my head's 170, but if it had 170,000 miles on it, then it wouldn't have made it to the dealership. A Cadillac DTS with 170,000 miles on, it's not even gonna drive down the road. But it still had high miles because it had to be cheap enough for those hood rats to do this to it. So I'm gonna go with 140.

[Co-host or Producer]

No, it said 101 on the windshield.

[John Clay Wolf]

On it.

[Co-host or Producer]

Ah, yeah.

[John Clay Wolf]

Then. Then I would pull the VIN number and see if it had a salvage rebuilt title. Because that car was low cost. They did not have much investment in this car to do that to it.

[Co-host or Producer]

It was. The interior wasn't that bad. I thought it would be all trashed out and everything, but it was not bad.

[John Clay Wolf]

The exterior. For you and your homeboy to grab Krylon and do that to a car, you gotta. It's got to be a 500 sled to them. But 101 on that, I mean that's without the F is F paint job. I mean that's seven thousand dollar rig. Not seven, but yeah, I'll say.

[Musical Interlude / Voice]

Maybe.

[John Clay Wolf]

And for them to do that to it, they shouldn't have more than 2500 in it. And if you do the algebra on that, that means it's 150,000 mile nothing car.

[Co-host or Producer]

But some people do dumb things to cars that are good.

[John Clay Wolf]

Some people are just stupid, aren't they?

[Co-host or Producer]

Yes.

[John Clay Wolf]

8008-0072-3480-0800 radio. Dale, good morning, you're on the air.

[Caller]

Hey, how you doing this morning?

[John Clay Wolf]

Good, good. Oh, 14 vet with 18. This is going to sound stupid because I should know the answer, but What? That was 14. The 14 was the first year of.

[Caller]

The new body, Right, the new body.

[John Clay Wolf]

Yeah. Okay.

[Caller]

D51, fully loaded. It's manual transmission. It's red with chrome wheels, got red leather interior, sharp looking car. I've only drove it like I said, 1850 miles.

[John Clay Wolf]

So convertible or hard top?

[Caller]

Convertible.

[John Clay Wolf]

Stick or automatic?

[Caller]

Stick.

[John Clay Wolf]

It is a stick, damn it. Okay, that. Just FYI, convertibles and vets sell a lot better in autos because the guy that buys them, I'm not talking about you, but everybody else but you. A lot of times in the back of their mind they think of their. A guy you're 55 years old or you're 60 years old. How old are you, Dale?

[Caller]

62.

[John Clay Wolf]

Okay, well see, the perfect woman for you and that's what drives the world, right is sex and the opportunity to possibly have sex in the future. So let's take 62 divided by 2 is a woman half your age plus 7. That's my math on the perfect woman for you, Dale. And she would be 38 years old. And assuming you're not married or you are married and whatever your personal. I'm just using you as an example because you have the car. You've got an idea to hunt this 38 year old woman with this car and take her to dinner a few times and then you may start driving your tahoe again and put her in this car at a later date. And then once you put her in this car, then you've got it on tap. Whenever you need to go there for it, you, it's there. I mean it's yours. You've claimed it, you've ear tagged her and. And she's not gonna want to drive a stick. That's where I'm coming from.

[Caller]

My wife drives it.

[John Clay Wolf]

Okay, but there's a lot of tries it. I know she can, but. But not. Not everybody. You're special, Dale. I'm just giving you the reason why. Broad strokes. Why Corvette convertibles bring more in automatics than in sticks. Not saying it applies to you. All right, we got a chrome, chrome wheel. This is factory navigation. Vet convertible. Clean carfax, no miles, but it's a. It's a hog leg. Let me look. I want to pull up an MMR on this thing real quick. I've got a number in my head, but I want to double check myself. Chevrolet Corvette. And I will say that is the best car that Americans have created. Maybe ever.

[Caller]

I would agree.

[John Clay Wolf]

Maybe ever. I mean, it's hard to say ever because you'd have all these classic guys start screaming up and. Oh, you know what I mean, dude, that car is something else. It is something else. So is it a 1lt, a 2lt or a 3lt on the Z?

[Caller]

51.3Lt.

[John Clay Wolf]

So it's the big mama. It's the high sticker price car with no miles, damn transmission, seven speed. You know, 50 grand is the number that's coming to my gut. Does that sound right?

[Caller]

It's a little low for what I was wanting.

[John Clay Wolf]

Have you had it appraised anywhere?

[Caller]

No, I haven't.

[John Clay Wolf]

All right, I know. I'll give 50. What will you take for it?

[Caller]

I was pushing closer to 60 is what I was looking for. Damn.

[John Clay Wolf]

That would be full blown retail. Full blown retail. And I'm not saying you can't get it. I can't give that. I can't give that. Make a dollar. But I. I'm a 50, 52 guy. Okay, maybe 53. But if you could take 53 for it, then go to givemetheven.com, put the VIN number in, push a couple of pictures and say, I'll take 53 for John was 50 on the air. I'll take 53 for it. He said that'd be his tops. And it's red, red, red. I like the red red. I like so many things you're telling me.

[Caller]

Oh, it's sharp, man. I mean, there's not too many red reds around a dealership. Tell me that, man. It's just an awesome look. And it is.

[John Clay Wolf]

I'm not saying I wouldn't go 54. So if you would, if you want a clean deal where, where you've got hard money, check a guy that shows up at your door just to hand you the check and you give him the title and the keys. And you don't have to jack with anything. That's me. And that comes from givemetheven.com. put the information in there, and we'll buy the car for mid-50s.

[Caller]

All right, John. Appreciate it.

[John Clay Wolf]

Thank you. Thank you, sir.

[Co-host or Producer]

I say, you brought up an interesting little topic there. Best American car ever, Right?

[John Clay Wolf]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Producer]

So I just happened to do a quick search to see if there's a list out there. Ask men. Everybody knows that magazine, right?

[John Clay Wolf]

Sure.

[Co-host or Producer]

They have one out. And here's a quick top 10. Okay. Number 10, the Ford Thunderbird.

[John Clay Wolf]

The old one.

[Co-host or Producer]

Yeah. I mean, you know, then they made 2002 to 2005. It's.

[John Clay Wolf]

Let me ask you this first. What is the newest model on this list?

[Co-host or Producer]

I'm going through it right now. Okay, so we're doing this live.

[John Clay Wolf]

Just fire them up.

[Co-host or Producer]

All right, number nine, the Chrysler Prowler.

[John Clay Wolf]

Yeah, that was a 99, 99 to 03 rig, I think. Okay.

[Co-host or Producer]

Still has it. Holds its value up, too.

[John Clay Wolf]

Looks like something out of happy days. It's a cool rig.

[Co-host or Producer]

Number eight, Pontiac firebird.

[John Clay Wolf]

The old one.

[Co-host or Producer]

Yeah.

[John Clay Wolf]

GTO world. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host or Producer]

Okay, number seven, the Mercury elite or eight. I mean, Mercury eight. I don't know why that's even.

[John Clay Wolf]

That's a Christine car. The old movie. That's old. Old stuff. I'm too young for that. Yeah.

[Co-host or Producer]

Okay, number six, the saline S7.

[John Clay Wolf]

Yeah, that's a cool car. That's a supercar center seat. That's a. I don't know what they cost. Half a million, 200,000 something crazy. Yeah, the Celine. I sat next to the owner of Celine at Barrett Jackson about 10 years ago, and they were selling the first one off. Or maybe it's 13 years ago. Cool rig.

[Co-host or Producer]

Okay, top 10American cars ever. Right. Number five, Cadillac El Dorado convertible.

[John Clay Wolf]

Does it have the wings on the back?

[Co-host or Producer]

Yes, it does.

[John Clay Wolf]

That is the rig. Now, I'm gonna go with that car with the vet. All right. I made the comment a minute ago, but the vet being the best. That one's right up there. That is a son of a bitch. That car is. That is the rig. The eldo convertible with the fins. Pretty hard to beat, that rig. Okay.

[Co-host or Producer]

Made it all the way up to 76. There's a little gap there from 66, 71. All right, number four, the tri five core Chevrolets.

[John Clay Wolf]

Oh, the. The 57, 57s.

[Co-host or Producer]

Yeah, 55, 57.

[John Clay Wolf]

It's all cool.

[Co-host or Producer]

Those are nice. Yeah, those are really cool.

[John Clay Wolf]

I'm not knocking it. No.

[Co-host or Producer]

Number three, the Dodge Viper.

[John Clay Wolf]

You know, if you like riding a motorcycle without a helmet on and getting bugs in your teeth and smelling like exhaust when you get off. Yeah.

[Co-host or Producer]

It's not a comfortable ride.

[John Clay Wolf]

No, no, it's. I mean, it's a race car. Yep.

[Co-host or Producer]

All right. Number two.

[John Clay Wolf]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Producer]

Ford Mustang.

[John Clay Wolf]

So they're being generic, they're being general. They're not giving you year models.

[Co-host or Producer]

Well, it's 60.

[John Clay Wolf]

Which one is the best?

[Co-host or Producer]

No, but it's.

[John Clay Wolf]

I'm saying the 2014 body style in the Vet is the best.

[Co-host or Producer]

Okay, well, they're just saying that that type of mate. Because that's. And I think that's kind of back.

[John Clay Wolf]

Shelby 70, whatever is a 69. Yeah. That's pretty damn cool.

[Co-host or Producer]

All right, and then guess. Number one.

[John Clay Wolf]

Corvette. Yep. Yeah.

[Co-host or Producer]

Chevy Corvette. 6:53 to present. So just the general brand. The Corvette.

[John Clay Wolf]

Yes.

[Co-host or Producer]

Itself number one. And that's according to ass magazine. And that's what you said. Ask.

[John Clay Wolf]

Oh, porn. Again, ask men.

[Co-host or Producer]

Yes, Ask me.

[John Clay Wolf]

I said Corvette. Yes, I agree. And. But the best. The new body Corvette is that of a. Is a. You think that's the Ferrari. Ish feel in technology. It's unbelievable.

[Co-host or Producer]

That's the best one they've ever made.

[John Clay Wolf]

Yes. Really? Okay. Yes. Have you driven one? No. We've had them.

[Co-host or Producer]

We've had them.

[John Clay Wolf]

But I never even said in them. I've never driven one either.

[Co-host or Producer]

I sat in it just to see, and it's really cool.

[John Clay Wolf]

My head in there, and I was like, I'm done. I knew it was unlucky.

[Co-host or Producer]

You knew you. You wanted to buy it.

[John Clay Wolf]

Well, I already bought it.

[Co-host or Producer]

Well, no, but I mean, buy it for yourself.

[John Clay Wolf]

I don't drive the cars. I get that. The cars I buy that are super cool. I mean, Turley can attest. How many of them do you see me drive? None. Right, Zettle? Because I don't want to fall in love. I mean, you don't see me hanging out at the topless joints either.

[Co-host or Producer]

No.

[John Clay Wolf]

And I don't want to fall in love, and I don't want to wind up saying I'm gonna keep it and lose five grand on it because I want to keep it for three months. So I just don't even look at them. I just look at them as dollar bills and do my thing with them. 800, 800. 7, 2, 3, 4. 800, 800. That's what guys are always. When I'm buying cars, I'm driving. I'm like, I'm not driving anything. I don't drive the cars. I have. I mean, we it's 24 grand, but you need to. Do you need the keys? No, I don't need the damn keys. Is 24. Buy it. No, bro, that. That's retail ish mentality. When they start trying to sell me come drive it. I mean, everybody wants you to drive it because they want you to fall in love with. They want you to pay. Pay their price. That's fine. You know, everybody needs a good salesman. But I won't be in business very long if I start using emotion. I got to stick to. I got to fly by the numbers and use a little bit of gut. Okay, we'll be right back. My name is John Clay wolf. It is 1125 right here. Texas time. We'll be right back.

[Musical Interlude / Voice]

Looking for something to help me find out right I'm looking for complication looking cause I'm tired of life make my way back home with a linda fire. Think I'm done as impatience it can wait one night Give me give it all away if you give me one last try we live happily ever trapped in future save my life Going to tell the angels that everything's all right I'm looking to the sky sa looking for a sign of light Looking for something help me burn out bright Now I'm looking for complication looking cause I'm tired of trying make my way back home when I learn to fly high make my way back home when I learn to fly along with me I can't quite make it up Try to make this life my own fly with me I can't quite make it up Try to make this life my own look into the sky shading looking for side of life Looking for something to help me far down right now I'm looking for complication looking cause I'm tired of trying make my way back home and learn to look into the sky saving looking for a sun alive Looking for something to help me burn out bright Looking for a complication looking cause I'm tired of trying make my way back home when I learn to fly make my way back home when I learn to fly make my way back home when I'm learning to.

[John Clay Wolf]

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