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Welcome to Skeptical Sunday. I'm your host Jordan Harbinger. Today I'm here with Skeptical Sunday co host Michael Rogiglio on the Jordan Harbinger Show. We decode the stories, secrets and skills of the world's most fascinating people and turn their wisdom into practical advice you can use to impact your own life and those around you. And our mission is to help you become a better informed, more critical thinker. During the week we have long form conversations with a variety of amazing folks from spies to CEOs, athletes, authors, thinkers, performers. On Sundays though, we do Skeptical Sunday where a rotating guest co host and I break down a topic you may have never thought about and debunk common misconceptions about that topic. Topics like why tipping makes no sense, E Commerce scams, the lottery, Reiki Healing, Ear candling, Self help cults, Homeopathy, and more. If you're new to the show or you want to tell your friends about the show, I suggest our episode starter packs. These are collections of our favorite episodes on persuasion, negotiation, psychology, disinformation, junk science, crime and cults and more that'll help new listeners get a taste of everything we do here on the show. Just visit jordanharbinger.com start or search for us in your Spotify app to get started. Alright, today. Phew, man. Last week we talked about the penis. We talked about how penises have evolved and how we've understood them over time. We've talked about size, symbolism, significance. And today, in part two, kinda, we're gonna talk about the perils of the penis. That is to say, the pills, pumps, procedures, surgeries, lasers that are now being used to augment and beautify the penis. Which is why one of our resident skeptics, Michael Brigilio, is back again to.

Summary

The Jordan Harbinger Show – Episode 1229: Penis Enhancement | Skeptical Sunday

Release Date: October 26, 2025
Host: Jordan Harbinger
Co-host/Correspondent: Michael Rogiglio

Episode Overview

In this “Skeptical Sunday” installment of the Jordan Harbinger Show, Jordan and co-host Michael Rogiglio dive into the world of penis enhancement—a topic rife with misinformation, dubious remedies, body insecurities, and questionable “solutions.” Following their previous episode on the history and symbolism of the penis, this sequel focuses on the modern (and ancient) pursuit of making the penis harder, bigger, and “better looking.” The hosts dissect the science and pseudoscience behind erectile aids, enlargement procedures, and aesthetic interventions, exposing medical risks, psychological pitfalls, and societal pressures, all with Jordan’s signature humor and frankness.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Erecting the Foundation: The Science & History of "Hardness"

[03:51–13:44]

Origins of Erection Theories:
- Ancient misconceptions: Hippocrates theorized "vital spirits" and pulleys; Galen believed air inflated the penis; Da Vinci finally identified blood as the main cause.
- Modern take: Erection involves neural, vascular, and psychological components (blood flow, hormones, stress, etc.).
Humor on First Erections:
- Michael: "Do you remember your first pillowcock, Jordan?" [04:08]
- Jordan: "Yes, I was watching the Jetsons, if I recall." [04:14]
Folklore Remedies:
- Ranged from rubbing with jasmine oil, eating goat testes, drinking hawk semen, to wearing animal genitals as talismans.

2. Erectile Dysfunction (ED): Past & Present

[07:32–18:17]

Eternal Problem + Modern Solutions:
- ED references go back to ancient Indian and Chinese texts, often blamed on supernatural causes (witches, evil spirits).
- Many early "cures" not only failed but harmed animal populations (e.g., tiger penis as a remedy).
Viagra Revolution:
- Developed accidently by Pfizer during heart drug trials, became FDA-approved ED treatment in 1998.
- Resulted in rescuing endangered species (less demand for animal parts): "The rise of Viagra could be acting to help these endangered species." (Michael, [11:09])
- Viagra is safe and effective for most, minor side effects—always consult a doctor.

3. Modern Options for ED: Beyond the Blue Pill

[18:17–24:39]

Gels and Shockwaves:
- Alprostadil gels less common in US; shockwave therapy (acoustic waves) promotes blood vessel growth.
- Implants: "Inflatable" penile devices mimic the air/blood "balloon" theories of old—visible mechanism likened to Reebok Pump sneakers. [20:12–21:10]
Botox ("Bocox") for Penises:
- Jordan recounts firsthand trying Bocox at San Francisco’s Upsize Clinic as a journalistic experiment: "So, I basically got Bocox on the house. Yes—I did get an injection into my wiener for this podcast." [23:08]

4. Pornography, Addiction, and "Death Grip"

[13:38–16:03]

PIED (Porn-Induced Erectile Dysfunction):
- ED increasingly affects younger men due to unrealistic standards and dopamine depletion from excessive porn.
- Death grip: excessive masturbation with a tight grip desensitizes the penis; solution is abstaining from porn.
- "Luckily, the treatment for that is stop watching porn. But it's not an instant fix." (Jordan, [14:50])

5. Chasing "Bigger": Myths, Methods, and Measurement Madness

[25:07–41:18]

The Pursuit of Size Across Eras:
- Debunking ancient and modern myths—weighted stretching (ancient Egypt, India, Africa), snake bite lore, goat/dog/animal parts, and ingestion of snake oil “remedies” were ineffective and dangerous.
Modern 'Jelking', Pumps, and Pills:
- Jelking (manual stretching exercises) has no evidence of efficacy, can cause scarring/disfiguration.
- Pills and lotions (epimedium aka "horny goat weed") are unproven and often dangerous: "Penis enlargement pills are bullshit and they can do real harm." (Michael, [36:29])
Traction Devices and Fillers:
- Clinical evidence suggests some traction devices (e.g., Andropenis, Restorex) can add modest length (~0.7in) if used for months, hours per day.
- Injectable fillers (e.g., hyaluronic acid) effective for girth; commonly last 18–24 months.
Measurement Anxiety:
- Correct method is "bone-pressed" measurement (push ruler against pubic bone); importance of accurate self-assessment to ease insecurities.
- "A lot of it is because they don't know how to measure it. So they're measuring in a way that automatically takes away like half an inch or an inch..." (Jordan, [28:03])
Stereotypes & Racial Myths:
- Harmful stereotypes (e.g., African-American men are expected to be larger) lead to unnecessary enhancement attempts; actual clinical differences are negligible.
- "Just let it go." (Michael, [31:43])

6. Surgical Solutions—and Cautionary Tales

[45:01–56:10]

Fat Injections vs. Fillers:
- Fat injections from the patient’s body can cause lumpy irregularities.
Risks with Non-Doctors & Med Spas:
- Horror stories of necrosis, nerve damage, even death arise when people seek enhancements from unlicensed practitioners or at "med spas."
- "If a med spa isn't good enough for your penis treatments, for God's sakes, an unlicensed person operating out of their basement or a storage locker off of a highway exit? That is far riskier." (Jordan, [57:01])
Surgery for Length (Ligamentolysis):
- Severing the suspensory ligament increases only flaccid hang, not erect length; can cause pointing downward, scarring, sometimes even reduces size.
Silicone Implants:
- Implants can marginally increase both length and girth; "success stories" exist, but the risks—loss of sensation, infection, buckling through skin, irreversible damage—outweigh the benefits for most. FDA loophole allowed approval as “substantially equivalent” to butt/calves implants.

7. Aesthetics: "Better Looking" Penises

[59:22–66:09]

Cosmetic Fixes:
- Hair removal, correcting curvature (Peyronie’s Disease), sclerotherapy/laser treatment for veins.
- Most demands fueled by porn, social media, and body image pressure.
- Laser/needle vein treatments are not FDA-approved and can cause serious harm.
- "As Kristen Schaal said to Jon Stewart, a penis looks like something you'd find crawling on the seafloor by a sulfur vent." (Michael, [61:47])
Jordan’s Experience:
- Discloses getting a filler for a minor "dent" in his penis, describes procedure as fast, low-pain, commonly for cosmetic or symmetry correction.

8. Psychological Impact: Insecurity and Body Dysmorphia

[68:33–69:11]

Penile Dysmorphic Disorder / SPA:
- Many men have distorted perceptions of their own size—often underestimate theirs and overestimate others' (spa = small penis anxiety).
- "You may be experiencing a psychological condition known as penile dysmorphic disorder, PDD, or Small Penis Anxiety SPA." (Michael, [68:33])

9. Body Positivity & Final Takeaways

Confidence and Communication Matter Most:
- "Love your penis as it is is still the best option." (Michael, [45:52])
- "The most important thing would be confidence... communication, intimacy." (Michael, [68:30])
Informed Decisions:
- Don’t seek enhancement on a whim or from non-professionals.
- "I'm positive about body modification... I just want it to be done safely." (Jordan, [65:57])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On absurd remedies:
"Romans would wear talisman of goat genitalia or drink hawk semen." (Michael, 09:05)
"Hawk jizz. That was a big one." (Michael, 09:13)
On measurement anxiety:
"There's something called bone pressed measurements—so basically there's a fat pad above the top of your penis, and you push a ruler into that until it hits bone." (Jordan, 28:03)
On modern porn and "death grip":
"Some guys just start squeezing tighter and tighter...that's a big problem when you're not using your own hand..." (Jordan, 14:04)
On the dangers of cosmetic clinics:
"Yikes. Take care of yourself, gentlemen. In South Florida, one woman was sentenced to 40 months in jail for mangling a man's penis in a botched, unlicensed penis job." (Michael, 56:49)
On ancient and modern insecurities:
"The myth is...tribes of Brazil employed the venom of snakes. They would get a snake to bite them down there." (Michael, 32:12)

Timestamps for Key Segments

History & Science of Erections: 03:51–06:43
ED Throughout History: 07:32–13:44
Viagra: Discovery & Impact: 11:09–13:44
Effects & Causes of ED, Porn Addiction: 13:38–16:03
Options for Modern ED: 17:50–24:39
Measurement Anxiety & Stereotypes: 28:03–31:43
Ancient & Modern Myths (Jelking, Pills): 33:33–37:01
Traction Devices & Fillers: 37:09–41:18
Jordan’s Experience with Filler: 41:41–43:12, 45:01–46:24
Dangers of Non-Professional Procedures: 46:24–57:01
Surgery—Risks & Regrets: 50:38–56:10
Aesthetics & Cosmetic Fixes: 59:22–66:09
Psychological Considerations & Body Dysmorphia: 68:33–69:11
Body Positivity, Confidence, Informed Choice: 69:11–70:16

Final Thoughts

Jordan and Michael's blend of skepticism, research, and candid (often hilarious) personal sharing makes this episode unique among medical podcasts. Their overarching message:

Most enhancement methods are unnecessary, risky, and often ineffective.
If you do pursue enhancement, go to a real doctor.
Be wary of unrealistic standards set by porn, media, and cultural myths.
Confidence, communication, and realistic self-acceptance remain the most effective “enhancements.”

"Love the penis you have. Be kind to it. Treat it right—it's part of who you are."
— Michael Rogilio, [69:52]

For more resources, details about the procedures discussed, and links to experts (including Dr. Pash), visit jordanharbinger.com. To suggest topics for Skeptical Sunday, email jordan@jordanharbinger.com.