How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Summary

The Journal. – "How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport"
Date: March 25, 2026
Hosts: Ryan Knudsen & Jess (Jessica Mendoza)
Special Contributor: Michelle Hackman

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Episode Overview

This episode explores how a political funding showdown in Washington led to a dramatic shift in how airport security is managed: with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers, normally tasked with deportation, suddenly deployed to help staff America’s airports. The hosts dive into why TSA lines have gotten so bad, the genesis of the plan to send ICE agents, how this reflects deeper political battles over the Department of Homeland Security, and what it signals for both airport security and the future of immigration enforcement in the U.S.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The TSA Crisis: Causes and Chaos

• Nationwide, TSA lines have ballooned, especially at major airports like Atlanta and Houston, due to a funding lapse. Many TSA agents stopped coming to work after going a month without pay.
  • "Waiting in the security line at the airport is never fun, but right now, it's really not fun because the lines these days are out of control." — Ryan Knudsen (00:29)
• The problem stems from Congress failing to fund the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), under which TSA operates.
  • "TSA agents who are under DHS haven't gotten paychecks for more than a month and they're starting to walk off the job." — Jess (01:38)

2. Why DHS Is Unfunded: Shutdown Standoff

• A recent congressional showdown saw Democrats hold up DHS funding to force restrictions on ICE’s powers (specifically, stopping ICE from using masks in raids, and requiring judicial warrants for home searches).
  • "Democrats really stood their ground and said, we are not funding the Department of Homeland Security unless this administration agrees to some limits on ICE's power." — Jess (05:44)
• Ongoing tension around ICE’s tactics, especially after officers killed two citizens in Minneapolis, intensified calls for accountability.

3. The Origins of the ICE-in-Airports Plan

• A citizen caller named Linda first floated the idea on a conservative radio show; it quickly gained traction, was amplified on Fox News, and then adopted by Trump.
  • "What we need to do is we need to supplement where we're missing out on TSA agents... We need to bring in ICE agents." — Linda (call-in, paraphrased by Jess, 08:44)
• Trump claimed credit, likening its simplicity to the invention of the paperclip.
  • "182 years ago, a man discovered the paperclip. It was so simple. And everybody that looked at it said, why didn't I think of that? ICE was my idea." — Donald Trump (09:36)

4. ICE’s Surprising Financial Firepower

• Unlike regular DHS funding, ICE was given a separate, multi-year funding stream (the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act")—$170 billion that lasts until 2029.
  • "ICE has been able to continue paying all of its officers even though their normal funding is shut down." — Jess (10:14)
• This means ICE could keep functioning while the rest of DHS, including TSA, ran out of funds.

5. How ICE Agents Felt About Airport Duty

• ICE officers were caught off guard by the president’s announcement and were frustrated:
  • "ICE is an agency with a mission... Suddenly, Trump is taking a lot of agents off their normal jobs and having them do airport security." — Jess (11:16)
  • "ICE agents don't have any training in airport security, right? They're trained to arrest immigrants. They're trained in immigration law." — Jess (11:38)

6. The Reality of ICE at Airports

• ICE agents are not conducting actual passenger screening; they’re mostly running crowd control to free up the remaining TSA agents for security tasks.
  • "Rather than run actual security, they're doing more crowd control... monitoring exits and guiding people to the right lines." — Ryan Knudsen (11:57)
• There is little evidence yet that this move has significantly improved wait times despite White House claims to the contrary.

7. Political Gambits and Legislative Jousting

• Trump framed the move as leverage over Democrats, crowing that it forced them to the negotiating table.
  • "When I announced yesterday about ICE, the Democrats called, we want to settle..." — Donald Trump (14:43)
• Democrats, in turn, believe lengthy TSA lines are hurting Trump politically and give them leverage.
  • “To other Democrats, it actually kind of signaled that Trump was realizing what a political crunch these TSA lines were creating for him.” — Jess (15:14)

8. Congressional Negotiations and the Save America Act

• Lawmakers proposed a deal: fund all of DHS except ICE, whose funding would be handled separately.
• Trump rejected this, tying any deal to his 'Save America Act,' which would require proof of citizenship to vote—a nonstarter with Democrats.
  • "He told Republicans, don't negotiate with Democrats. He also said, I'm not signing this unless it also passes with the Save America act." — Jess (16:22)

9. Funding Workarounds and Political Strategy

• Republicans, after weeks demanding ICE be funded, now tout the wisdom of having already pre-funded ICE.
  • "Suddenly yesterday you had John Thune and others saying we pre funded ICE... and we can actually move ahead without getting them any more money." — Jess (18:36)

10. Future Outlook: Will the Crisis End Soon?

• There is mounting bipartisan pressure to resolve the funding impasse before Congress recesses.
• Even with a deal, TSA staffing woes may linger long after paychecks resume, as many agents have quit or found other jobs.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "TSA agents haven't gotten paychecks for more than a month and they're starting to walk off the job." — Jess (01:38)
• "We need to bring in ICE agents." — Linda, call-in radio guest (08:44)
• "ICE was my idea." — Donald Trump (09:36)
• "ICE is an agency with a mission... Suddenly, Trump is taking a lot of agents off their normal jobs and having them do airport security. I mean, that was, like, really, really frustrating for people." — Jess (11:16)
• "ICE has so much money sloshing around from the big beautiful bill that it doesn't really matter to them." — Jess (18:36)
• "If Congress isn't able to reach a deal by Friday, then the airport chaos could continue for another two weeks at least." — Ryan Knudsen (19:37)
• "Even if they can reach a deal… Employees there have now had to go long stretches without paychecks twice in the last year and many have quit." — Ryan Knudsen (20:04)

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Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamps | Content | |-------------|----------------|-------------| | TSA Airport Crisis Begins | 00:29 – 02:05 | Scenes at airports, TSA staff shortages explained | | Shutdown Standoff: Why No Funding | 04:50 – 07:37 | History and politics, Democrats' demands on ICE oversight | | Origin of ICE-at-Airports Plan | 08:20 – 09:48 | Call-in show to Trump's adoption of the idea, Trump’s comments | | ICE Finances and Authority | 10:00 – 10:48 | "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" gives ICE special funding | | ICE Reaction & Role at Airports | 10:54 – 12:40 | How ICE agents felt, their roles | | The Political Fallout | 14:30 – 17:31 | Trump & Democrat strategies, the Save America Act | | Congressional Dealings | 17:40 – 19:12 | Funding workarounds, new negotiations | | Airport Crisis Outlook | 19:21 – 21:20 | Prospects for a deal, impact on TSA and ICE going forward |

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Tone and Language

The episode maintains a brisk, informative, sometimes incredulous tone—reflecting surprise at the unprecedented use of ICE in airport security and the chaotic interplay of politics and government operations. Direct quotes from Trump bring his trademark flair (“One Big Beautiful Bill Act”). Jess’s and Ryan’s exchanges feature wit and personal worry about the real-world impact (“I have a flight next week... I’m pretty nervous, too.”).

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Useful Takeaways

• An unprecedented funding lapse led to ICE officers managing airport crowds, highlighting the deep connection between political fights in DC and everyday American experiences at airports.
• ICE, designed for deportation, is temporarily repurposed for airport logistic tasks despite agent discomfort and lack of specialized training.
• Political maneuvers and ideological priorities are delaying a funding agreement, as Congress, the President, and both parties' bases jockey for leverage.
• ICE’s unique funding status gives it operational autonomy, complicating efforts to pressure the agency via government shutdowns.
• Even after resolution, traveler disruption could last for weeks due to depleted TSA ranks.

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For listeners who missed the episode, this summary captures the essential narrative, key discussions, and thematic through-lines—highlighting how politics disrupted a basic American routine and what it means for the future of both airport security and immigration policy.

Transcript

[Jess]

Hey, it's Jess and Ryan.

[Ryan Knudsen]

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[Jess]

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[Ryan Knudsen]

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[Jess]

See you there. Good morning. Step on up.

[Ryan Knudsen]

Step on up. Waiting in the security line at the airport is never fun, but right now, it's really not fun because the lines these days are out of control. At Hartsville Jackson in Atlanta, one of the busiest airports in the country, the TSA line stretches so far back, you can't even see where it starts.

[Jess]

This is actually still the TSA pre check line.

[Radio Host / Caller]

This line now wraps outside.

[Jess]

So if you think about it, it

[Donald Trump]

wraps around the inside four different times.

[Ryan Knudsen]

In Houston, the security line doesn't just stretch, it descends. It curves past the departure zone downstairs through baggage claim, and spills out onto yet another floor.

[Jess]

If you live in Houston and you have a flight today and it is not mandatory and it is leisure, do not come here. I'm literally on my way back home. I turned around.

[Ryan Knudsen]

The lines are bad pretty much everywhere.

[Jess]

Whoever said the lines at JFK were fake are sabotaging you. I don't know what.

[Ryan Knudsen]

It's a huge pain for travelers, and it's all because of a government funding showdown in Washington.

[Jess]

It's because the Department of Homeland Security hasn't been funded for more than a month, which means TSA agents who are under DHS haven't gotten paychecks for more than a month and they're starting to walk off the job.

[Ryan Knudsen]

That's our colleague, Michelle Hackman. She says the shortage of TSA agents is getting really bad at airports across the U.S. which is why suddenly a different kind of federal officer started showing up at many US Airports this week.

[Jess]

Over the weekend, Trump announced on Truth Social that ICE was going to take over and help with airport security.

[Ryan Knudsen]

Ice? Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the agency carrying out President Trump's mass deportation agenda. How unusual is it for ICE to step in at airports like this?

[Jess]

It's pretty unprecedented. I mean, obviously we've been in this situation before where there have been government shutdowns and TSA has gone unpaid. But it's the first time that a president has thought, let's send in our immigration guys.

[Ryan Knudsen]

Welcome to the Journal, our show about money, business and power. I'm Ryan knudsen. It's Wednesday, March 25th. Coming up on the show how deportation officers ended up staffing America's airports.

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[Ryan Knudsen]

The Transportation Security Administration, or TSA, was founded after 911 to centralize airport security under one agency instead of leaving it up to the airlines or private contractors. It was meant to make airports safer, but the change also made airport security more vulnerable to political infighting. Now every time there's a government shutdown, the TSA is affected.

[Jess]

There was a near total government shutdown just a few months ago, and TSA was obviously a victim of that too.

[Ryan Knudsen]

The Last shutdown lasted 43 days and ended in November. Then in January, after ICE officers killed two American citizens in Minneapolis, Democrats used a different budget deadline to pick another fight over government funding, this time specifically related to the Department of Homeland Security, DHS oversees ice.

[Jess]

Democrats really stood their ground and said, we are not funding the Department of Homeland Security unless this administration agrees to some limits on ice's power, some sort of guardrails on how they're allowed to operate.

[Ryan Knudsen]

And so what is it specifically?

[Jess]

The Democrats are demanding they want a few things. I would say their two biggest demands are that ICE shouldn't be allowed to wear masks to cover their Faces. And the other big one has to do with judicial warrants. Basically there's this issue where ICE has said, we've decided unilaterally. And they did so actually secretly. They didn't even announce this policy change or even widely circulate it, but they said, we're going to allow our officers to break into people's homes to look for an immigrant if that person has received an order of deportation. The problem is that the Constitution's Fourth Amendment says everyone, immigrants and citizens alike, have this protection against unnecessary search and seizure. And so typically you need a judge to sign a warrant to break into someone's house. And ICE was safe skipping that step. And so Democrats wanted to write into the law like, no, you must actually go get a warrant if you want to break into someone's home. Republicans and the White House in particular refused to sort of meet the Democrats demands. And so DHS was allowed to shut down

[Ryan Knudsen]

after the policy became public. A DHS spokeswoman said that people targeted under this policy, quote, have had full due process and a final order of removal from an immigration judge. Without funding for dhs, TSA agents stopped receiving paychecks in late February. And earlier this month, many of them stopped showing up for work.

[Jess]

The thing you have to remember about TSA agents is they're remarkably low paid. And if you missed multiple paychecks, I mean, the TSA union has been saying people are not surviving, right. They're getting part time jobs, help pay for themselves. And we've seen the so called call out rate, the rate that TSA agents are like calling sick to work, extremely high, particularly in some places, like up to 40% of staff.

[Ryan Knudsen]

That's how you end up with all those videos of airport lines stretching all the way out to the parking lot and people having to wait up to eight hours to make it to their gates. So can you tell me the story of how this idea to send in ICE came about?

[Jess]

Yeah, we're not exactly sure, but there is a curious series of events that went down right before Trump announced the policy.

[Ryan Knudsen]

It started last Friday when a woman named Linda from Arizona called into a talk show hosted by a radio host named Clay Travis.

[Radio Host / Caller]

Linda in Green Valley, Arizona, what you got for us?

[Jess]

Well, Clay, I think I have a solution to the TSA problem.

[Ryan Knudsen]

Linda had an idea.

[Jess]

What we need to do is we need to supplement where we're missing out on TSA agents who can't afford to work for us anymore. We need to bring in ICE agents.

[Ryan Knudsen]

Clay Travis thought it was a great idea and he started sharing it more widely.

[Jess]

So Clay Travis went on Fox News, and he basically said, I have a brilliant idea.

[Radio Host / Caller]

I had a caller on the show, the Clay and Buck show today, Charlie. It had an interesting idea. What if President Trump announced that ICE agents were now going to be supplementing TSA agents inside of all of these, the airports.

[Jess]

And very soon after that, Trump tweeted out almost the identical idea in a scrum with reporters.

[Ryan Knudsen]

Trump said sending in ICE was his idea. The idea was so simple, he said, that it reminded him of the story of the paperclip.

[Donald Trump]

182 years ago, a man discovered the paperclip. It was so simple. And everybody that looked at it say, why didn't I think of that? ICE was my idea.

[Ryan Knudsen]

But hold on a second, though. If the tsa, DHS is not being funded, the TSA is part of dhs, but ICE is also part of dhs. So how is it that ICE has funding to do this work?

[Jess]

Yeah, yeah, it's a good question. So over the summer, Republicans passed this bill. It's called the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

[Ryan Knudsen]

Oh, right. This is Trump's big piece of landmark legislation that he passed last year.

[Jess]

Exactly, exactly. And in that bill, Republicans gave DHS $170 billion, basically, to carry out the mass deportation. A huge amount of that money was allotted to ice, and specifically, it doesn't run on sort of the annual funding cycle the way normal funding does. It's like this money that ICE has that expires in 2029, and they can use it whenever. And so, basically, ICE has been able to continue paying all of its officers even though their normal funding is shut down.

[Ryan Knudsen]

So how did the Department of Homeland Security receive this decision by the President? What did they think of it?

[Jess]

First of all, we were told that they were taken completely by surprise. They learned the same moment that we all saw Trump's post on Truth Social Media. You know, I reached out to people at ICE over the weekend, and they were like a mix of panicked, incredulous, confused, definitely unhappy about the position they've been put in.

[Ryan Knudsen]

Why?

[Jess]

I think it's a few things. I think, first of all, ICE is an agency with a mission, and that is to arrest and deport immigrants in the country illegally. And people who work at ICE believe in that mission. And particularly now, they believe in this idea that they're supposed to be carrying out a mass deportation for Trump. Suddenly, Trump is taking a lot of agents off their normal jobs and having them do airport security. I mean, that was, like, really, really frustrating for people. And not to mention ICE agents don't have any training in airport security, right? They're trained to, like, arrest immigrants. They're trained in immigration law.

[Ryan Knudsen]

On Monday, about 100 to 150 ICE officers started showing up to just over a dozen airports across the country. And rather than run actual security, they're doing more crowd control, like monitoring exits and guiding people to the right lines. Trump border official Tom Homan said this frees up tasks so that the remaining TSA agents can do the actual screening work that they're trained for. What has the DHS said about how much of an impact this is having on these long lines?

[Jess]

Not much, as far as I can tell. They're definitely, you know, defending the president's decision to send ICE and saying that it's making America safer, but no signs yet that it has, like, drastically improved the situation.

[Ryan Knudsen]

During a press briefing today, a White House spokesperson said wait times at TSA lines have gone down, but how long could it take to get TSA back up and running? That's next.

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[Ryan Knudsen]

The situation at airports and the decision to send in ICE officers is putting pressure on both Democrats and Republicans to Reach a deal. President Trump recently suggested that the whole thing was giving him an advantage.

[Donald Trump]

When I announced yesterday about ice, the Democrats called, we want to settle, we want to settle. And I told the people, don't settle, don't settle, because we have.

[Jess]

It's interesting, right? I mean, that was his framing of it. And certainly there were some Democrats who were pretty unhappy about the fact that ICE was being sent to airports because they just find the tactics of ICE so unacceptable.

[Ryan Knudsen]

Democrats, meanwhile, say it gives them the leverage.

[Jess]

To other Democrats, it actually kind of signaled that Trump was realizing what a political crunch these TSA lines were creating for him. And so in some ways, I think the Democrats think it brought him to the table rather than vice versa.

[Radio Host / Caller]

This is Donald Trump yet again falling back to what is his only play, which is to double down, to dig in, to send.

[Ryan Knudsen]

That's Democratic Congressman Dan Goldman.

[Radio Host / Caller]

Why doesn't he take the deal that John Phoon had reached that is part of is on the House floor right now to fund TSA as well as every other?

[Ryan Knudsen]

Either way, now that both sides are at the table, there's been some movement on Capitol Hill. Over the weekend, Republican Senator John Thune met with Trump and proposed a solution. The idea was to fund all of dhs, but to leave ICE funding specifically to a process called reconciliation, which is basically a way to fund certain things with a simple majority in the Senate. So how did Trump respond to this deal about funding all of DHS except for ice?

[Jess]

He rejected it at first and pretty publicly. He, you know, he told Republicans, don't negotiate with Democrats. He also said, I'm not signing this unless it also passes with the Save

[Donald Trump]

America act, only settled if you get the Save America act vote.

[Ryan Knudsen]

The Save America act is Trump's top legislative priority right now. It's a bill about voter eligibility. Among other things, it would require people to prove citizenship before registering to vote and show government issued ID at the ballot box. Tell me more about that. Is that likely to happen? Could this actually help get the SAVE act passed?

[Jess]

I would say the mood on the Hill yesterday was like people almost laughing that Trump had said that, because everyone knew that that was impossible.

[Ryan Knudsen]

Hmm. Why is it impossible?

[Jess]

Democrats are pretty uniformly against the SAVE act, and Republicans are not uniformly for it. And, you know, the way the Senate math works is that they need 60 votes to pass legislation. They barely even have 50 votes right now.

[Ryan Knudsen]

Even though Trump initially rejected Thune's proposal about funding all of DHS except for ice, some lawmakers in Congress are trying to push ahead anyway.

[Jess]

As of, you know, Tuesday morning, Democrats, Republicans and the White House were sort of zeroing in on this deal that's not perfect for anyone, as deals often are. Basically what it does is it funds all of DHS except the part of ICE that is responsible for the stuff that you and I know ICE to do, basically arresting and deporting immigrants.

[Ryan Knudsen]

So it's sort of like we had this government shut down and we funded the whole government and just kept the DHS issue open. And now we're going to just like do a miniature version of that again, where we're just going to fund like most of DHS and not like the most controversial part and just keep kicking the can down the road.

[Jess]

Exactly. You nailed it.

[Ryan Knudsen]

But as we talked about earlier, ICE has all this funding already from the big beautiful bill. So it was withholding funding from DHS actually having any impact on ICE's actual work?

[Jess]

I would say on the margins. But really the big thing to know is that ICE has so much money sloshing around from the big beautiful bill that it doesn't really matter to them. And you saw Republicans, I mean, Republicans had this really interesting rhetorical shift where for weeks they were talking about the importance of funding ice. We can't leave ICE hanging. ICE is so important to. Suddenly yesterday you had John Thune and others saying we pre funded ice. Like that was so smart of us. We gave them all the money they need and we can actually move ahead without getting them any more money.

[Ryan Knudsen]

So how close do you think this crisis at the airports is to being resolved and TSA agents being able to start receiving paychecks again?

[Jess]

You know, as a policy reporter in Washington, I've learned to never make really confident guesses. Right. But there's a really strong pressure on Congress to try to get this solved before they go on their two week recess on Friday.

[Ryan Knudsen]

If Congress isn't able to reach a deal by Friday, then the airport chaos could continue for another two weeks at least. Yesterday, Trump expressed frustration with the ongoing negotiations in Congress, which don't include his Save America Act.

[Donald Trump]

Well, I don't want to comment until I see the deal, but as you know, they're negotiating a deal. I guess they're getting fairly close, but I think any deal they make, I'm pretty much not happy with.

[Ryan Knudsen]

Even if they can reach a deal to fund dhs, it might still take a while for the TSA to recover. Employees there have now had to go long stretches without paychecks twice in the last year and many of them have quit. It could take the TSA time to staff up again. What does this mean for ice, meanwhile, which has this mission of trying to deport people and now is having, even if it's a short term detour at the airport?

[Jess]

It's such an interesting moment for ice. You know, we have reported that Trump was pretty unhappy with how DHS handled the huge operation in Minneapolis, that he feels that some of ICE's operations just went too far, looked bad, made him look bad, and some in the administration fear that he's lost some interest in doing some of the large scale immigration raids that he campaigned on and promised he would do. And I think people are seeing this through that prism that if he's taking ICE agents off their normal job to do airport security, that that sort of lends credence to the idea that he's not so interested.

[Ryan Knudsen]

All right, my last question, Michelle, is I have a flight next week. Do you have any advice?

[Jess]

I'm also flying next week, Ryan, and I'm pretty nervous, too.

[Ryan Knudsen]

I'll see you in the TSA line, I guess.

[Jess]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ryan Knudsen]

That's all for today. Wednesday, March 25. The Journal is a co production of Spotify and the Wall Street Journal. Additional reporting in this episode by Natalie Andrews, Siobhan Hughes, Cam McWhorter, Harriet Tory and Rachel Wolf. Thanks for listening. See you tomorrow.

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