The High Pressure Tactics Gloria Allred Uses On Her Own Clients

Summary

The High Pressure Tactics Gloria Allred Uses On Her Own Clients

Podcast: The Journal
Hosts: Kate Linebaugh and Ryan Knutson, with Jessica Mendoza
Release Date: March 14, 2025

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Introduction

In the March 14, 2025 episode of The Journal, produced by The Wall Street Journal and Gimlet, host Khadija Safdar delves into the controversial practices of Gloria Allred, a renowned women's rights attorney. Known for her high-profile cases against figures like Harvey Weinstein and Donald Trump, Allred has built a public image as a staunch advocate for victims. However, Safdar's investigative reporting uncovers claims from former clients that paint a contrasting picture of Allred's firm, suggesting the use of high-pressure tactics and questionable legal strategies.

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Gloria Allred's Public Image and Reputation

Gloria Allred is celebrated as one of America's most prominent lawyers for women's rights, often vocal about empowering women. Early in the episode, Allred asserts her commitment to truth and justice:

"Truth matters. Women matter. Those who allege that they were victims of sexual misconduct or sexual assault by Mr. Trump matter."
[00:37]

Her public persona includes holding press conferences and providing emotional support to clients, reinforcing her image as a dedicated advocate.

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Client Experiences: Caroline Walner

Caroline Walner, who became a client in 2021, initially praised Allred:

"And I thought she was really amazing. You know, I still actually feel like she's done a lot of good bringing things to the forefront..."
[01:20]

However, Walner's experience took a negative turn. She accused Allred's firm of inadequately investigating her allegations against acclaimed author Neil Gaiman and pressuring her into a settlement that included a non-disclosure agreement (NDA). Walner recounted feeling overwhelmed and silenced:

"Absolutely. It's been like the scariest roller coaster ride with this because... they're constantly trying to put a muzzle on you."
[02:06]

She detailed how the firm quickly negotiated a $300,000 settlement, enforcing the NDA and preventing her from speaking out or retaining her story:

"I didn't ever get to go into the sex abuse and what had happened... I can't remember. I was asked like, not a lot of questions about that."
[06:03]

Walner also criticized the use of forced arbitration clauses in the retainer agreement, which she felt were contradictory to Allred's public stance against such clauses:

"The thing that makes it interesting for Gloria, she has spoken out publicly against forced arbitration clauses."
[07:25]

Ultimately, Walner broke her NDA, faced aggressive pushback from Allred's firm, and alleged malpractice, leading to ongoing arbitration claims against the firm.

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Client Experiences: Effie (Efrasina Angelova)

Effie, a 24-year-old client, approached Allred's firm after receiving disturbing messages from actor Armie Hammer, which included references to rape and cannibalism. Initially seeking pro bono assistance, Effie's experience mirrored Walner's in several troubling ways:

"And so Gloria telling me to not talk, and she actually had me take down the screenshots from my Instagram... it was not good. It was very strange."
[17:38]

Allred pressured Effie into a public press conference, pushing her to license photos labeled as the "money shot," despite Effie's reluctance to profit from her trauma:

"No, it's not my goal to make money off of any of those."
[18:44]

Effie also reported that Allred exhibited a dismissive attitude towards her panic attacks, referring to her behavior as part of "tough love":

"I'm giving you my tough love."
[21:11]

Furthermore, Effie discovered that Allred participated in a documentary featuring her case without her consent, leading to immense personal distress and the termination of their professional relationship:

"For her to then, behind my back, go and participate in it... it was devastating."
[22:40]

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Analysis of Allred's Firm Tactics

Khadija Safdar's investigation reveals a pattern where Allred's firm employs aggressive legal strategies that prioritize quick settlements and confidentiality over clients' autonomy and well-being. Former clients like Walner and Effie describe being pressured into NDAs and public statements, often feeling their voices were suppressed rather than amplified.

Allred's legal partner, Nathan Goldberg, acknowledges the use of forced arbitration clauses, which he justifies as a means to protect clients from financial repercussions. However, this practice appears to contradict Allred's public criticism of such clauses:

"She [Allred] is trying to protect women who have NDAs from opening themselves up to financial penalties."
[08:21]

Clients have reported feeling re-victimized by these practices, with persistent pressure to remain silent and comply with the firm's demands.

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Allred’s Response to Allegations

Gloria Allred has publicly responded to the allegations by emphasizing the importance of honesty and informing clients of potential risks:

"Not only do I speak truth to power, I speak truth to clients. ...they deserve to be informed of the risks that they face."
[24:18]

She maintains that her firm operates with the clients' best interests in mind, encouraging courageous actions while also implementing measures like NDAs when necessary. Despite these statements, clients and former clients argue that these tactics serve to protect the firm's reputation and business interests rather than genuinely supporting victims.

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Conclusions from the Reporting

Khadija Safdar's reporting presents a complex portrait of Gloria Allred's legal practice. While Allred continues to be a prominent figure in advocating for women's rights, the experiences of clients like Caroline Walner and Effie suggest that her firm's methods may sometimes undermine the very empowerment they are meant to foster. The use of NDAs, forced arbitration, and aggressive settlement tactics raises questions about the balance between legal efficiency and ethical advocacy.

The investigation underscores the importance of scrutinizing legal practices, especially those associated with high-profile figures, to ensure that the pursuit of justice does not inadvertently silence or harm the victims it aims to protect.

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Notable Quotes:

• Gloria Allred: "Truth matters. Women matter. Those who allege that they were victims of sexual misconduct or sexual assault by Mr. Trump matter."
  [00:37]

• Caroline Walner: "Absolutely. It's been like the scariest roller coaster ride with this because... they're constantly trying to put a muzzle on you."
  [02:06]

• Effie: "I was devastated... I was very outspoken... she was very aware that I was against it... it ended it."
  [22:40]

• Nathan Goldberg: "This law firm is a business and they look to maximize the settlements and they try to do them quickly and efficiently."
  [25:12]

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This episode sheds light on the potential discrepancies between a public advocacy persona and the internal practices of a legal firm, prompting listeners to consider the complexities involved in seeking justice through high-profile legal avenues.

Transcript

[Khadija Safdar]

Gloria Allred is one of America's best known lawyers.

[Gloria Allred]

Women have found their power and they're not going to be silent anymore. They're going to stand up for themselves.

[Khadija Safdar]

The 83 year old is the go to lawyer for women's rights cases in the U.S. she has a reputation as a tough and tireless advocate for her clients. And she's represented women against powerful men like Harvey Weinstein, R. Kelly, Bill Cosby, and Donald Trump.

[Gloria Allred]

Truth matters. Women matter. Those who allege that they were victims of sexual misconduct or sexual assault by Mr. Trump matter.

[Khadija Safdar]

Allred's famous for holding press conferences in front of cameras and microphones. She hugs and comforts tearful clients.

[Gloria Allred]

The public deserves to know if Mr. Cosby is a saint or a sexual predator.

[Caroline Walner]

I can remember talking to somebody about her, going, well, thank God there's a woman out there who's taking care of women.

[Khadija Safdar]

Caroline Walner became a client of allred's firm in 2021.

[Caroline Walner]

And I thought she was really amazing. You know, I still actually feel like she's done a lot of good bringing things to the forefront when maybe they wouldn't have been before. You know, I mean, sometimes they're two truths to things. This might be one of those times in my situation.

[Khadija Safdar]

Caroline has a different story to tell about Allred. She claimed that Allred's firm didn't properly investigate her allegations and later tried to prevent her from speaking out. She talked to our colleague, Khadija Safdar.

[Nathan Goldberg]

So do you regret working with Gloria Allred's law firm?

[Caroline Walner]

Absolutely. It's been like the, like scariest roller coaster ride with this because you know, when you feel like, you know, people are starting to understand and then all of a sudden you get like even more scared than you were before because they're constantly trying to put a muzzle on you. That's what this is all about, like, not talking.

[Khadija Safdar]

In her reporting on Allred, Khadija has spoken to dozens of people, including former clients, lawyers and people who've approached Allred's firm. Many said Allred's public image is at odds with their experience behind the scenes. Some clients said Allred's firm ignored their wishes and instead of helping them find their voice, silence them through non disclosure agreements. Gloria Allred said that the Journal didn't highlight her firm's approximately 10,000 happy clients. She's described the Journal's reporting as a hit job and an unprecedented attack on her and her law firm. Welcome to the Journal. Our show about money, business and power. I'm Kate LINEBAUGH. It's Friday, March 14th. Coming up on the show, the high pressure tactics Gloria Allred uses on her own clients.

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[Khadija Safdar]

Caroline Walner accused the acclaimed author Neil Gaiman of sexual exploitation. She said that it happened when she was a caretaker for a property Gamon owned. Gaiman denied the allegations. Walner approached Gloria Allred's firm, Allred, Morocco and Goldberg, in 2021. She wanted to find a lawyer who could take on a case against such a high profile figure.

[Caroline Walner]

And that's when I just thought, well, I guess I could go to the best Gloria Allred and looked her up on the Internet and I emailed her and probably three hours later or something they called me.

[Nathan Goldberg]

What was your state of mind at the time you were approaching the firm?

[Caroline Walner]

I was probably like one of the lowest, lowest periods I've ever been in my life. I was not in a good place at all. And I did tell them that, you.

[Khadija Safdar]

Know, Caroline spoke with Allred's legal partner, Nathan Goldberg, and what happened surprised her. When she told him Gaiman's lawyer's name, he told her that he actually knew that lawyer and he would call him.

[Caroline Walner]

And you know, I don't think after that conversation I really ever got to go into the sex abuse and what had happened. Like, I don't think he ever knew any of the details. He maybe I had told him a couple of them. I can't really remember. I was asked like, not a lot of questions about that.

[Khadija Safdar]

After that call, things moved fast. Within a day of retaining Allred's firm, Caroline had signed a settlement with Gayman. It included a non disclosure agreement, or NDA that both she and Gaiman signed. These agreements prevented her from suing Gamon or speaking about her allegations against him to family, friends and associates. She and Gaiman were also asked to destroy photos, texts and videos they sent each other. But the settlement wasn't the only thing Caroline signed over those quick few days. When she agreed to be a client of Allred's firm, she signed a retainer agreement, basically a contract between a lawyer and a client. Within this contract was something called a forced arbitration clause. This clause is found in many types of contracts, and in this case was meant to prevent Caroline from taking the firm to court or publicizing her experience with the firm.

[Nathan Goldberg]

The thing that makes it interesting for Gloria, she has spoken out publicly against forced arbitration clauses.

[Khadija Safdar]

That's our colleague Khadija Safdar again.

[Nathan Goldberg]

And there's like even some language on her website where she talks about these private arbitrations. She say they, quote, deprive survivors an opportunity to be heard and seek justice in a system of checks and balances. So she's criticized these agreements, but then she employs them in her own retainer agreements.

[Khadija Safdar]

It, like, protects Allred and her firm from public scrutiny.

[Nathan Goldberg]

So, like, you can still seek recourse against her in an arbitration, but, like, the public wouldn't know about it. She said when I asked her about it that she does it because she's trying to protect women who have NDAs from opening themselves up to financial penalties.

[Khadija Safdar]

Caroline said when she signed the settlement agreement, her focus wasn't on her ability to speak about her case. She said she believed at the time she was Gayman's only accuser.

[Nathan Goldberg]

Did you have time to read the NDA?

[Caroline Walner]

I mean, he said you should read the NDA, but the NDA was so long and was not language that I was used to at all. I did not know what a lot of it even meant. And we didn't go over the NDA together at all.

[Khadija Safdar]

In a statement, Allred said, quote, if the client does not wish to sign a confidentiality clause in a settlement agreement, the client always has a right to reject the settlement and proceed to file a civil lawsuit. Caroline said her top priority at the time was finding a place to live for herself and her three daughters after Gayman had had evicted them.

[Caroline Walner]

I wasn't in the frame of mind to make, to even make a decision about an NDA, to tell you the truth. I didn't have a place to live. And it's Kind of like when you're in a situation like that, it's like, wait a minute. What is right in front of you? Right in front of you is you need, like, a roof over your girl's head, you know, and, like, groceries and refrigerator. And that's how I was thinking. I wasn't thinking about the fact that the NDA was going to, like, hold me hostage for the rest of my life.

[Khadija Safdar]

Allred's Firm negotiated a $300,000 settlement for Caroline from Gaiman. Caroline tried to move on with her life. She stuck to the terms of her NDA and didn't discuss the case. But last summer, she listened to a podcast that changed all that. It was called Master the Allegations against Neil Gaiman. In it, other women made accusations against Gaiman. Gaiman has denied those allegations.

[Nathan Goldberg]

How did the podcast make you feel?

[Caroline Walner]

Oh, just completely sick. I mean. I mean, what happened to us was different. Very different, but so much of it was the same.

[Khadija Safdar]

Caroline began to feel strongly that she should speak out about what happened to her.

[Caroline Walner]

The only way to take care of yourself when you've experienced a trauma is to talk about it and to come, you know, to terms with it and try to understand that it was not your fault. And so to not be able to talk about that and to have to keep that silent is really, really bad for your mental health. And I think that's one of the things that keeps people traumatized. It's re. Traumatizing. It absolutely is.

[Khadija Safdar]

Caroline wanted to speak out publicly and support the women. She contacted Goldberg, her lawyer at Allred's firm, to ask if she could.

[Caroline Walner]

And he said, listen, don't be stupid. If you break your NDA, you are breaking the law. You sign that NDA, and you have to follow it by law. Don't be a fool. You're one of the lucky ones. And, you know, if you do break this NDA, I will no longer represent you. And that's what he said. And he hung up. And I hung up.

[Nathan Goldberg]

How did you feel after that call?

[Caroline Walner]

Oh, I was. I mean, I was totally crying. I was crying so hard because it was really. It was aggressive. It was an aggressive phone call.

[Khadija Safdar]

Caroline did break her NDA. Eventually, she hired a different lawyer to send a letter to Allred's firm alleging malpractice. Allred's firm responded, saying that Caroline couldn't sue or publicize her experience due to her retainer agreement. But there was more. Allred's firm made clear they had recently obtained what they called sexually provocative texts, photos, and videos from gay men's lawyer. These were materials that Caroline had sent Gamon during the period she accused him of sexual exploitation. Caroline said she was surprised that one of Allred's lawyers, John west, would be in possession of these documents.

[Caroline Walner]

But he was using this to scare me and make my lawyer think that he had all this sexually provocative stuff that would prove that he didn't have a case, you know.

[Khadija Safdar]

Caroline told Khadija that she didn't send any nude photos or videos.

[Caroline Walner]

It was just so duplicitous and, and shocking and I don't know, it just felt really kind of like, I don't know what the word is for something like that, like Machiavellian or something.

[Khadija Safdar]

Caroline and Gaiman have now both filed arbitration claims against the other for breaching the terms of their NDA. Allred said she can't respond to specific client allegations because of ethics rules and other legal reasons. Caroline told Khadijah that looking back at her experience with Allred's firm, she wished she'd been encouraged to go to the police. She also talked about signing the NDA.

[Caroline Walner]

There's a problem with signing an NDA, and that is with somebody who is a serial predator, and that is that you protect them because you have to be silent about that so you don't go on the record. And I don't know what to do about that. You know, that's like a societal issue that I think has to be talked about.

[Khadija Safdar]

Khadija spoke with dozens of people who felt silenced or let down by Allred. Effie's story is next.

[Effie]

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[Khadija Safdar]

Efrasina Angelova was 24 when she posted on her Instagram page messages she'd received from the actor Armie Hammer. Hammer has appeared in films like the Social Network and Call Me by youy Name. The messages discussed rape and cannibalism. They went viral online and led to other women making allegations against the star. Hammer has denied the allegations. Efrasina, who goes by Effie, spoke to our colleague Khadija.

[Nathan Goldberg]

We're going to go back to when you first approached Goria Allred to help you. Why did you approach her?

[I]

I was speaking out about my rape, and a lot of people were recommending that I get a lawyer. And a lot of those people were recommending Gloria specifically because, you know, she's known as this, like, feminist icon that, like, helps victims and protects victims and fights for victims rights. So she has a reputation.

[Khadija Safdar]

Effie became a client of Allred's in 2021, and like Caroline, she was asked to sign a retainer agreement with the forced arbitration clause. She requested that the law firm remove it, but they refused. Effie ended up signing the agreement. Allred would help Effie pro bono to provide evidence to law enforcement and act as her media spokesperson when and if needed. It didn't include settlement negotiations or filing a lawsuit. Effie didn't sue Hammer, but she did file a police report, and Allred helped Effie provide evidence to the police. The LA district attorney in 2023 decided not to bring charges against Hammer. But during the criminal investigation, Allred told Effie that she shouldn't speak publicly.

[I]

And so Gloria telling me to not talk, and she actually had me take down the screenshots from my Instagram of the messages that went viral, which felt very silencing because I had just finally started finding my voice. So it was not good. It was very strange.

[Khadija Safdar]

Effie said she wanted to speak out for herself, and Allred offered options. She and Effie spoke on a call, and Effie shared a recording with Khadijah.

[I]

Can you hear me now?

[Gloria Allred]

I can't. Are you talking?

[Khadija Safdar]

On the call, Allred presented Effie with options like interviews that would include Allred a potential movie deal, and also licensing photos of the victim with the accused. Allred referred to that as the money shot.

[Gloria Allred]

Maybe they would license photos of you alone, but, I mean, that's. That's what we call the money shot. That key. That's the most important photo.

[Khadija Safdar]

But Effie pushed back, saying she didn't want to make any money from her experience.

[I]

No, it's not my goal to make money off of any of those.

[Gloria Allred]

Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying there's nothing wrong. I like my clients to have their money and their principles and be portrayed.

[Khadija Safdar]

The light must be.

[Gloria Allred]

I mean, I like it all.

[Caroline Walner]

Yeah.

[Gloria Allred]

So they don't have to be defensive again about getting money.

[Khadija Safdar]

Allred continued, I've never had a man.

[Gloria Allred]

Say, oh, no, don't get me any money.

[Nathan Goldberg]

Yeah, yeah, that's right.

[Khadija Safdar]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Gloria Allred]

So I'm just saying. So women are socialized to think there's something wrong with that.

[I]

Yeah.

[Khadija Safdar]

Effie said she never sold her story or licensed any photos to a media outlet.

[I]

And then she kept, you know, saying that I have to make a decision and, like, badgering me about. You have to make all these decisions, and then she gives you two days. And so it's like, you know, making major decisions about speaking out about your rape and your abuse and your trauma. Like, those are major decisions. You shouldn't be making them in a span of, like, immediately or two days, you know, so you have to decide what's your priority.

[Gloria Allred]

When do you want to tell me?

[I]

Well, I'll think about it, and as soon as I think about it, I'll let you know.

[Gloria Allred]

No, not as soon as you think about it. Give yourself a deadline.

[Khadija Safdar]

Allred steered Effie toward doing a press conference, telling her it was important for the public to see her. It was held online in March 2021.

[Gloria Allred]

Thank you for coming today. I'm attorney Gloria Allred, and I'll be making a statement, and then my client, Effie, will be making a statement.

[Khadija Safdar]

Effie appeared on screen and tearfully read a statement with her allegations against Hammer.

[I]

He abused me mentally, emotionally, and sexually.

[Nathan Goldberg]

How did you feel about that at the time?

[I]

So it was very scary for me. It was very like she steered me into that direction, and then it just felt like the whole time it was basically her guiding me to do it. And, you know, I would have never thought of doing such a thing myself.

[Khadija Safdar]

On a call about a month later, Effie told Allred she was suffering panic attacks. Effie shared a recording of the call with Khadija.

[Gloria Allred]

It was because I was having a panic attack. Oh, come on. Get a hold of yourself. All right. How old are you? 24. Get a hold of yourself.

[Khadija Safdar]

In a statement, Allred said, quote, I practice tough love with clients and potential clients. She also said this to Effie.

[Gloria Allred]

I'm giving you my tough love.

[Khadija Safdar]

After Khadijah's story ran, Allred put a statement up on her website. She said that her firm informs their clients of the options, benefits and risks and is honest about what is possible. Quote, not only do I speak truth to power, I speak truth to clients. And because I am honest, I often tell them things that they do not want to hear because they deserve to be informed of the risks that they face. Not long after the press conference, Effie was asked if she would take part in a documentary about Armie Hammer's family, which she declined. She sent Allred an email saying she didn't want to be included.

[I]

So I said to Gloria, I do not want my trauma or any parts of it to be exported, to be used to endlessly retraumatize me me in some documentary for people's entertainment against my consent. And I wrote to her in an email. I feel very strongly about this.

[Khadija Safdar]

Allred replied a month later, saying she hadn't been retained for this purpose. In August 2022, a trailer of the documentary called House of Hammer was released. Allred was in it discussing Effie's case.

[I]

I was devastated. My family was devastated, my parents. It was shocking to me because she knew how much against the making of the docuseries I was. And I was very outspoken about that on my social media and to her. And so she was very aware that I was against it, that it was traumatizing for me, that I did not want it to be made. And so for her to then, behind my back, go and participate in it, while, in my opinion, very deliberately not telling me that she was doing this.

[Nathan Goldberg]

How did that change your relationship with Gloria Allred?

[I]

It just completely destroyed. Didn't change it. It ended it. I was like, I'm done with her.

[Khadija Safdar]

Allred eventually resigned as Effie's lawyer after Effie complained to a reporter about Allred's participation in the documentary.

[I]

Now, I never refer people to her, and if somebody tells me that they're looking for a lawyer, I give them other recommendations. I never refer her to them because I know what she's like, so I cannot risk putting someone else through something like that.

[Khadija Safdar]

We asked Allred to respond to the allegations that some women felt repeatedly bullied and re victimized by her firm. Allred said she often tells clients things that they don't want to hear because they deserve to be informed of the risks that they face. She said clients need to know that taking on the rich, the powerful and the famous will be very challenging for them. In order to win rights, they are going to need to be courageous and make sacrifices. We can't do it for them. We can only do it with them. Some of the women you spoke with had been allegedly assaulted by celebrities, and now they're going to the celebrity law firm and they're feeling like they're they alleged they were taken advantage of.

[Nathan Goldberg]

Yeah. Like Caroline said this to me at one point, that I just feel like everywhere I go, it's like you, like you're being bullied over and over and over again and being beat down and beat down. And that's how some of them described it to me, just feeling like victimized and then victimized again and then again and again.

[Khadija Safdar]

What's your takeaway from your reporting here?

[Nathan Goldberg]

This law firm is a business and they look to maximize the settlements and they try to do them quickly and efficiently. And that is sometimes at odds with the image of an advocate that's a justice seeker that is being portrayed publicly.

[Khadija Safdar]

That's all for today. Friday, March 14 the Journal is a co production of Spotify and the Wall Street Journal. The show's made by Kathryn Brewer, Pia Gadkari, Rachel Humphries, Sophie Kodner, Ryan Knudson, Matt Kwong, Colin McNulty, Jessica Mendoza, Annie Minoff, Laura Morris, Enrique Perez de la Rosa, Sarah Platt, Alessandra Rizzo, Alan Rodriguez Espinosa, Heather Rogers, Pierce Singhi, Jeevika Verma, Lisa Wang, Katherine Whalen, Tatiana Zamis and me, Kate Linebaugh, with help from Trina Menino. Our engineers are Griffin Tanner, Nathan Singapak and Peter Leonard. Our theme music is by so Wiley. Additional music this week from Peter Leonard, Nathan Singapak, Griffin Tanner and Blue Dot Sessions. Fact checking by Mary Mathis. Thanks for listening. See you Monday.