Katie speaks to Conservative Catholic Carrie Prejean Boller, Muslim-American activist and scholar Sameerah Munshi, and Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro. But first she speaks to Remo Ibrahim, an organizer with the Palestinian Youth Movement and the Mask Off Maersk campaign. Finally, Katie speaks about Palestinian philosopher and diplomat Fayez Sayegh with John Harfouch, Associate Professor of Philosophy at The University of Alabama in Huntsville and the author of He is the author of Another Mind-Body Problem: A History of Racial Non-Being and Joseph Levine Professor Emeritus at Umass Amherst, the author of Purple Haze: The Puzzle of Consciousness. For the full discussion, join us on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/posts/patreon-full-dr-153870729

Carrie Prejean Boller is a wife, mother of two, & community activist, guided by a deep commitment to protecting religious freedom & upholding First Amendment protections. From San Diego, CA, she won Miss California and wrote the book Still Standing in 2009. Carrie joined the Catholic Church in 2025 and was was appointed by President Trump to serve on the Religious Liberty Commission at the White House. Yaakov Shapiro is an international speaker, author, and pulpit rabbi for over 30 years, now emeritus. After graduating high school at 16, Rabbi Shapiro dedicated himself to full-time study of religion, becoming the protégé of some of the most well-regarded rabbinic scholars in Orthodoxy. At 19 he published his first book, משפטי הבירורים, a collection of original expositions on rabbinic principles of tort adjudication. His most recent work, The Empty Wagon: Zionism’s Journey from Identity Crisis to Identity Theft (2018), a 1381-page treatise on the differences between Judaism and Zionism. Sameerah Munshi is a Brown University graduate with degrees in Mathematics and Political Science, where she was recognized with the James Manning Medal for her work in interfaith engagement and religious studies. She previously served as Executive Director of the Coalition of Virtue, a Muslim-led nonprofit known for its role in the Supreme Court case Mahmoud v. Taylor. Munshi has since pursued advanced study in the Islamic scholarly tradition and is currently an advisor to the White House Religious Liberty Commission. Since this interview Carrie has officially been removed by President Trump and Sameerah has “resigned in protest of this removal and over the illegal war in Iran. She said she could no longer be associated with a commission clearly trying to promote a Zionist agenda nor be affiliated with an administration that kills children in cold blood at the urging of a genocidal state.” Dr. John Harfouch studies the history of philosophy from 1600 to the present. His 2018 book, Another Mind-Body Problem: A History of Racial Non-Being, presents a counter-history of human subjectivity in the Modern period tracing the development of race and racism through the discourse on minds and bodies. He has also written extensively on imperialism, colonialism, and orientalism in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. His current research program focuses on Palestinian philosopher, Fayez Sayegh, who developed a unique philosophical method to advocate for justice in the Middle East. At UAH, Dr. Harfouch often teaches classes in ethics, history, and political philosophy. He is also the director of UAH’s pre-law certificate. Joseph Levine is an American philosopher at the University of Massachusetts Amherst who received his PhD from Harvard University in 1981. He works on philosophy of mind and is best known for formulating the explanatory gap argument against materialist explanations for consciousness.

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