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Stephen Colbert
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Hank
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Stephen Colbert
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Hank
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Stephen Colbert
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Hank
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Jessica Williams
It's the Late Show Poncho with Stephen Colbert.
Stephen Colbert
Welcome back. Hey, folks. I'm here to tell you that you know my next guest from Love Life. Two dubbed queens. And she now stars in season three of Shrinking.
Shawn
I was gonna say sorry. For what? Nasty. I was. She was supposed to apologize for cheating on me. I ain't want her to jump on me and tell me to make her dinner like nothing happen. Being accountable matters.
Jessica Williams
I see what this is. You want a smoocher.
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Shawn
No, I don't.
Jessica Williams
Then why'd you agree to dinner, Shawn?
Shawn
She made me.
Jessica Williams
She didn't make you do anything. Look, Paul told you about the field, right? This magical energy force that sends you everything you need in life.
Shawn
That's just Jesus, right?
Stephen Colbert
Wow.
Jessica Williams
I'm a lot less crunchy than Paul. So I think once you know what you need to work on the most in your life, you just start seeing it everywhere.
Stephen Colbert
Please welcome back to the Late Show. Jessica Williams, Nice to see you. Thank you so much.
Jessica Williams
Wow. Lovely.
Stephen Colbert
Wow, you look so lovely and sparkly. You look like the Queen of Winter.
Jessica Williams
Really?
Stephen Colbert
Thank you.
Jessica Williams
Winter is coming. Or it's already here.
Stephen Colbert
It's here.
Jessica Williams
It's 10 degrees outside.
Stephen Colbert
Yeah, it's only about 15 in here.
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Jessica Williams
Wow.
Stephen Colbert
Okay. We're currently heading into the thick of the awards season.
Jessica Williams
Yes.
Stephen Colbert
Okay. And I want to revisit a really great moment from last year's Screen Actors Guild award show. Some people may know about this moment. I know this moment. You know what this is? Can you explain to people what we're about to see?
Jessica Williams
Okay, so the footage that we are about to see is from last year and it is at the SAG Awards, now the Actor Awards. And in this clip, I am doing this. At the beginning of every actor awards, they have an actor say that. Something, something, something, something. This is a story and I am an actor. And so for this clip, and it's.
Stephen Colbert
Live in the audience, and it's live.
Jessica Williams
And it, like, streamed on Netflix. And so for this clip in particular, I did tell my co star, Harrison Ford, that I was doing this I am an actor bit. And the last thing he said to me was, what? And then this happened. Los Angeles is known as the city of dreams. And sure enough, all my dreams have come true here from my dream of preparing. I told him.
Stephen Colbert
Go look.
Jessica Williams
Hi, I'm jessica williams. I'm la born and bred, and I am an actor.
Stephen Colbert
Did he. Was that. That's a wonderful moment. Wonderful moment there. But did he know that he was doing something funny? Was he aware?
Jessica Williams
Honestly. Honestly, the scary thing is, I still have no idea. Only because, like, a few. I was at my house, it was my day off because we were shooting Shrinking Season three, and he. I had a missed call from him. And like, I never. You never get a missed call from Harrison Ford. And I remember distinctly feeling like I need to go grab my keys. Oh, my God. Pee paws down in the well. Like, something's wrong. Like, I have to find this guy. Like, I started panicking.
Stephen Colbert
Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure.
Jessica Williams
So I called him and I was like, he's like, hello? And I was like, hey, Harrison. Hi. Dude, did you call me? Did you call me? And he's like, oh, yeah. And I was like, yeah. He's like, I'm at Paul Smith. And I was like, what? And that's like a boutique store that you can shop at and get colorful socks. And he's like, I'm at Paul Smith. I'm sitting with this guy that works here. He loved our bit. And then I was like, what? And he's like, he says he knows you, and we're having tacos. And I was like, what?
Stephen Colbert
Do they serve tacos at Paul Smith?
Jessica Williams
No, they don't serve tacos at Paul Smith. I don't know how he got tacos at Paul Smith.
Stephen Colbert
Harrison Ford.
Jessica Williams
He's Harrison Ford. Yeah, yeah. And so anyway, he's having tacos with this guy, and this guy gets on the phone with me and he's like, hey, girl. Hey, girl. I loved your bit with Harrison. And do you remember me? I was like, I don't know who you are. And he's like, well, you know, we know each other. I don't know if we know each other. So if that guy is watching, can you please, like, DM me so I can make sure you actually know me? But Harrison then found out, I think, that it was a bit that played really well at home from that guy. That's right.
Stephen Colbert
All right.
Jessica Williams
That's right. That guy told him. That's good.
Stephen Colbert
He has those people in front of you.
Jessica Williams
But when you're, you know, when you're in the room and you're doing something live, you have no idea how things are going to play.
Stephen Colbert
I'm curious because, you know, I like you. I'm lucky enough to have met some of my heroes, and I got them in my phone, and I always put in a fake name for the person or I put a little code so if somebody finds my phone, they don't know that I'm, you know, I know this person.
Jessica Williams
That's right.
Stephen Colbert
How do you have Harrison Ford in your phone?
Jessica Williams
I have him as Harrison, exclamation point. And then I have the chip photo. It's, like, super small, so it's like him doing that. Sure.
Stephen Colbert
So they definitely know that it's Harrison Ford.
Jessica Williams
Yeah. I needed it. It does feel good. In the rare time that it happens to have something, say Harrison and with a chip on my phone, and I go, that's nice. I made it. It's really nice.
Stephen Colbert
That is lovely, you guys in that moment. I like the end when you're kind of slapping at each other. You guys seem like there's some real affection there, like there is between your characters on the show.
Jessica Williams
Right. It's really nice.
Stephen Colbert
You have some emotional moments this season.
Jessica Williams
We do. This season is really great. There's a lot of really great. Paul is the character that Harrison plays, and my character's Gabby. And there's a lot of really good surrogate mentor, surrogate father, daughter stuff this season that I'm really excited for people to see. And he's just one of the greatest living actors that we are so lucky to have. And watching him perform, we got to do some really great stuff. It's like watching a beautiful sunrise. Like, you're like. It is like, looking at the best possible version. It's like, he's got star quality. He's Han Solo. He's Indiana Jones. He's that dude from Witness. Like, he's like, he's all of it.
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Stephen Colbert
Well, I'm curious is that I got to do one scene with him once, and I had to summon every bit of, like, balls I had just to do the scene with him.
Jessica Williams
What was the scene? What did you do?
Stephen Colbert
It was a sketch we did for this show. And not only did I have to do it with him, I had to sell him on doing it, which was almost harder than actually doing it.
Jessica Williams
That's not my job, which is really nice. Yeah, no, I don't have to do.
Stephen Colbert
It, but, you know, and then he's doing this thing where he's talking to you about it with the thing.
Jessica Williams
He loves that thing.
Stephen Colbert
Exactly. Do you ever get over that? Like, that feeling of, holy, I'm talking that person forward?
Jessica Williams
No, but the nice thing is that Paul is Gabby's sort of mentor. And for me, being a supporting actress for him is how can Gabby actually really irritate Paul's character to give him something to push up against? And so I get creative license to be, like, an annoying millennial to him. Like, I get to talk to him about, like, safe. And that's what the script is. And I didn't write it.
Stephen Colbert
Sure.
Jessica Williams
You know, and it's, like, fine. You know, it's a really cool spot.
Stephen Colbert
Can we say, say on cbs?
Jessica Williams
I don'. Honestly, my parents are here tonight, and I hated saying it, but that's what came out. Bleep it anyway.
Stephen Colbert
Okay, so you play a therapist. Yes. And a lot of people could use some these days. I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of therapy. Okay. I'm just curious. In these stressful times, what do you do? What is your self soothing?
Jessica Williams
My self soothing is hyper fixations on arts and crafts, I think.
Stephen Colbert
Oh, like, what do we. You got a hot glue gun?
Jessica Williams
What are you doing? I do. I have a hot glue gun. My dream. I'm working towards a dream of reupholstering chairs.
Stephen Colbert
Oh, I've done a little bit of reupholstering.
Jessica Williams
When? When did you do that?
Stephen Colbert
Oh, well, it was when our first baby was here, and she's 30 now.
Jessica Williams
Okay.
Stephen Colbert
I was very unemployed.
Jessica Williams
Really?
Stephen Colbert
And so was Evie. I had been fired, and so had she, and a baby was on the way. Don't recommend that situation at all.
Jessica Williams
Yeah, it's tougher. She was probably, like, fully pregnant watching you build a chair, and she was like, ew.
Stephen Colbert
What? I think it was a little bit of a turn on, you know?
Jessica Williams
Okay, okay. It could.
Stephen Colbert
That's how I remember it, darling. But no, but we were nesting, you know, like, we were nesting. And so it was like. Yeah, I learned to, like, stretch the fabric and get the right, you know, little trapunto.
Jessica Williams
Yes, A Trapunto's classic. They have all those weird old timey names.
Stephen Colbert
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jessica Williams
I'm also taking a sewing class right now that I started a couple weeks ago.
Stephen Colbert
Okay.
Jessica Williams
But it's to get to being able to do, like, cushions and box cushions.
Stephen Colbert
Oh, sure.
Jessica Williams
But I just want to have a staple gun. And, like. Because a lot of this is just some staple gun stuff.
Stephen Colbert
You don't have to tell me. I wasn't good at it.
Jessica Williams
Really. Would you ever do it again? Do you get the call of the wild?
Stephen Colbert
Actually, we looked at the first chair that I reupholstered just this weekend because we're empty nesters now. We're like, what are we doing? All this stuff. And so we looked at it and she goes, that chair should go. I said, no, that's the first chair I reupholstered for you to rock in with our baby in your arms. And she's like, oh, that should definitely go.
Jessica Williams
I think she feels similarly to what I thought the first time. Are you guys. What's it like being an empty nester? Because my parents are kind of empty. I feel like they're, like, dating again. It's lovely. Or did you never stop?
Stephen Colbert
We love the kids, and the kids are in the New York area, so that's. We get to see everything. Exactly. So it's kind of nice, you know. We got the dog. Oh, yeah, he's sleeping late, unfortunately.
Jessica Williams
Yeah. Yeah. I have a dog too, but he's a Taurus, so he likes to sleep in a lot.
Stephen Colbert
Your dog has a sign.
Jessica Williams
He's a sign. His star sign's a Taurus. He was born like Sincorre. I'm a Leo.
Stephen Colbert
Is that a good combo?
Jessica Williams
Yeah, it's good. I mean, my dad's a Taurus, but I think mostly honestly, I'm a Taurus.
Stephen Colbert
And Evie is Leo cancer.
Jessica Williams
Are you a Taurus? Interesting.
Stephen Colbert
I'm a Taurus. I don't know what any of that means.
Jessica Williams
Yeah, that's cool. You're kind of a cool, chill guy.
Stephen Colbert
Hook em horns. You like to hang something like that.
Jessica Williams
This is kind of classic.
Stephen Colbert
There you go.
Jessica Williams
Yeah, I get that. My dad's a Taurus, my dog's a Taurus. But my boy dogs are more. So a lot of them are like, wait, what are we doing? And my dad's kind of like that too. Actually, my dad's like, wait, what's happening?
Stephen Colbert
Is he affectionate with you as a dog or something?
Jessica Williams
Yes, he's tender. He was born tender. He's just like a. But he's kind of like. They told me he was the sheriff in his litter. So he doesn't like any funny business. Like, he doesn't like when people are crying. Like it makes him sad. He's tender.
Stephen Colbert
He's just really soulful. My dog Benny's a lovely dog and I know that he has good feelings toward me, but he mostly investigates us.
Jessica Williams
What do you mean? Investigate us?
Stephen Colbert
He comes over and he goes, you there? Ok. And then he goes away.
Jessica Williams
Yeah.
Stephen Colbert
He has to know that we're there and we're okay.
Jessica Williams
Mine too.
Stephen Colbert
Or we're there. I'm not sure if he cares if we're okay. He has to know that we're there. And then as long as we're there, we're like, well, we're cool. And then he might come up to me and then just go like this. He'll come out of Spaniard. He'll just lean cute. He'll lean up like just a little.
Jessica Williams
He doesn't like to cuddle, though.
Stephen Colbert
He does not like to cuddle.
Jessica Williams
Mine loves to cuddle. Mine's is like a baby. No. Oh, my God. Could you imagine if we just traded dogs on here? How many flags that would send up?
Stephen Colbert
People would hate it. That'd be a good. Could that be a reality show? Don't people like trade wives?
Hank
They did.
Jessica Williams
They did do that.
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Jessica Williams
For what?
Stephen Colbert
Trade dogs.
Jessica Williams
Wait, can I ask, is your dog smart? How's your dog on the smart o meter?
Stephen Colbert
He's pretty smart. He's pretty smart.
Jessica Williams
My dog is.
Stephen Colbert
He's a working dog. He's a field dog.
Jessica Williams
Yeah, my dog is like, so he scares me. He's like Coco the gorilla. I feel like. Like he really uses his hand. Like he could probably use his hands to lift it. I don't like it.
Stephen Colbert
If he had hands.
Jessica Williams
Yeah, but he's kind of really smart.
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He plays.
Jessica Williams
Yeah. He covers his eyes.
Stephen Colbert
Peek a boo.
Jessica Williams
Yeah. Do you remember that big ghost thing from Super Mario? The one that goes like this? The big ghosty. You never played video games? Wait, you're supposed to be a nerd. So you just like.
Stephen Colbert
I was 61 years old. I played defense mar. Donkey Kong? Yes.
Jessica Williams
Okay, great.
Stephen Colbert
I play Donkey Kong like a mother trucker.
Jessica Williams
Did you know there's a new Donkey Kong?
Stephen Colbert
It's called Mario.
Jessica Williams
No, it's called Donkey Kong. There's A new Donkey Kong for the switch. I game a lot.
Stephen Colbert
No, I did. Because by the time all that stuff came along, I didn't have any time for that. But I was like, defender. Yeah, I was zaxon. A vortex. Nope, nope. Centipede.
Jessica Williams
Centipede.
Stephen Colbert
I know Centipede. Oh, the ball. I had the glove and everything.
Jessica Williams
Oh, there's a glove that comes with Centipede.
Stephen Colbert
I made that part up.
Jessica Williams
Okay, that's crazy. I didn't believe you. I didn't believe. I was like, yeah, right. I don't believe it. Well, we used to play when I was coming up. I was born 1989. We used to play DDR. Do you remember Dance Dance Revolution at all?
Stephen Colbert
Oh, yeah, I know. Yeah. But yeah, later. Yeah.
Jessica Williams
And I was laughing, talking to my fellow millennial. We would have these plastic mats that you could plug into your PlayStation. That kind of didn't work.
Stephen Colbert
Yeah, yeah.
Jessica Williams
You know, but for the most part. Do you know about the quarter system? Did you guys have that when you were growing up? It's a quarter system. It's like you go to the arcade and there's like a DDR machine and you put a quarter on the screen and wait for your turn.
Stephen Colbert
Well, I mean, that's just sort of all gaming.
Jessica Williams
Is that etiquette?
Stephen Colbert
That's all gaming etiquette. Like foos. I'm next. You put your quarter on the side of the foosball table.
Jessica Williams
Oh, really?
Stephen Colbert
Foosball's non electronic gaming.
Jessica Williams
Tell me more about the days of foosball. Okay.
Stephen Colbert
Air hockey.
Jessica Williams
Yes. I love air hockey.
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Jessica Williams
I used to grow up playing. I played air hockey, bowling. I feel like millennials kind of grew up in a sweet spot because we did have that time before Internet, actually. And I do remember, like, last night.
Stephen Colbert
The last group that really had. You just discovered the Internet. Yes.
Jessica Williams
One day, I remember we got a grant from my school. One day we walked in and there were blue plastic imac computers. Like, they were all these people. Yes. I was obsessed. I wanted one so bad, but that was new. But we were of a certain age to take typing classes. But there was still a time where.
Stephen Colbert
What was your typing? Did you use the spongebob typing?
Jessica Williams
No, no. Spongebob was too late. I used talking typing tutor. My mom was like, you have to learn how to type. And I said, I can't believe you. I cannot believe nobody's ever going to type. And she was like, you have to learn to type. But there was a time, like, literally. And we would all use the same computer. We had A CD rom. And it was sticking in the thing. Like, people would have to call your house to, like. Do you remember this? Have you heard about this?
Stephen Colbert
Go on.
Jessica Williams
People would have to call your house and like, I don't know, it was just.
Stephen Colbert
Why would they call your house to talk to you?
Jessica Williams
And your mom would be like, okay, you have to ate stuff. Like, can you believe, like, Joey has a crush on you? Like, I don't know.
Stephen Colbert
Oh, no phone calls. You know, I thought you meant. What did you think I thought you meant? Like, for the computer to work, somebody had to call and approve computer time for you.
Jessica Williams
Oh, that's really funny. No, those were the days of old when we had to call. It was a call.
Stephen Colbert
Do you remember this?
Jessica Williams
Yes. It's in my brain. I just blacked out. Like, I just got triggered. I hate that you said that.
Stephen Colbert
So lovely to see you.
Jessica Williams
I'm happy we did this. This was none of the stuff we prepared to talk about.
Stephen Colbert
No, no, no. I'm not entirely sure what of this will make it to air and my producer knows even less at this point, but I loved all of it.
Jessica Williams
Thanks for being here. Good. Thank you so much.
Stephen Colbert
Thank you for listening to the Late Show POD show with Stephen Colbert. Just one more thing. If you want to see more of me, come to The Late Show YouTube channel for more clips and exclusives.
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Date: January 26, 2026
Guest: Jessica Williams
This episode features a warm and energetic conversation between Stephen Colbert and actress/comedian Jessica Williams, best known for her work on Love Life, 2 Dope Queens, and the acclaimed Apple TV+ series Shrinking. The discussion is lively, weaving through tales of awards show mishaps, mentorship from Harrison Ford, nostalgic reflections on childhood and millennial life, crafting obsessions, and the quirky personalities of their pets. The episode is rich with humorous anecdotes, off-script diversions, and charming chemistry between the two.
(02:23 – 05:14)
(06:06 – 07:46)
“He’s Han Solo. He’s Indiana Jones. He’s that dude from Witness. Like, he’s all of it.” (06:41)
(08:02 – 09:27)
Jessica: “She was probably, like, fully pregnant watching you build a chair, and she was like, ew.” (08:44)
(09:45 – 11:32)
Jessica: “He was born tender...he doesn’t like any funny business...” (10:44) Colbert: “He has to know that we’re there and we’re okay. ...I’m not sure if he cares if we’re okay.” (11:04)
(12:05 – 14:54)
(13:36 – 15:05)
“We did have that time before Internet, actually.” (13:35)
“I’m happy we did this. This was none of the stuff we prepared to talk about.” (15:06)
Jessica Williams (on acting with Harrison Ford):
“Watching him perform...it’s like watching a beautiful sunrise...he’s got star quality. He’s Han Solo. He’s Indiana Jones. He’s that dude from Witness. Like, he’s all of it.” (06:41)
Stephen Colbert (on his first reupholstered chair):
“That chair should go. I said, no, that’s the first chair I reupholstered for you to rock in with our baby in your arms. And she’s like, oh, that should definitely go.” (09:37)
Jessica Williams (on being live at the SAG Awards):
“When you’re in the room and you’re doing something live, you have no idea how things are going to play.” (05:15)
Jessica Williams (on millennial pre-Internet childhood):
“I feel like millennials kind of grew up in a sweet spot because we did have that time before Internet, actually.” (13:35)
Jessica Williams (meta-commentary):
“I’m happy we did this. This was none of the stuff we prepared to talk about.” (15:06)
This episode is characterized by authentic rapport, frequent laughter, and playful banter, with both host and guest relishing digressions. Williams’ warmth and spontaneity echo Colbert’s quick wit, resulting in an unscripted, humanizing celebrity interview. The overall mood: candid, friendly, and filled with laugh-out-loud moments.
This episode is a delightful, personality-forward chat offering behind-the-scenes glimpses at award shows, practical comedy from the acting trenches, and a celebration of the messy, funny moments of real life. Whether you’re a Shrinking fan, millennial, or dog lover, there’s something here that’ll make you smile.