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Stephen Colbert
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It's a hard nut smooth.
Stephen Colbert
Exactly. I mean, even out of the shell, it's still a nut.
Guest or Co-host (possibly a comedian or writer on The Late Show)
We can't disparage the nuts.
Michael J. Fox
You.
Stephen Colbert
I'm not disparaging the nut. I'm describing the nut.
Guest or Co-host (possibly a comedian or writer on The Late Show)
Don't disparage any flavors.
Stephen Colbert
I'm not. I am celebrating the pistachio right now. I'm on board. I love pistachios.
Michael J. Fox
I love.
Stephen Colbert
I love crushed pistachio. Like a pistachio crusted trout. Oh, unbelievable. Instead of a trout amandine, a trout pistachio. Fantastic. Enough butter?
Michael J. Fox
Who cares?
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Very good.
Stephen Colbert
And I love pistachio ice cream.
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Stephen Colbert
I didn't even know I get them.
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Stephen Colbert
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Michael J. Fox
Yeah.
Guest or Co-host (possibly a comedian or writer on The Late Show)
Yeah.
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Stephen Colbert
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That was a wonderful.
Stephen Colbert
I wonder what more there is to learn. We just told them so much. We just told them so much about pistachios. But evidently there's a whole other world. There's an unexplored vista.
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Stephen Colbert
Wow. And I would not disparage any of them.
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No, no, no.
Stephen Colbert
Bring it on.
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Stephen Colbert
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Stephen Colbert
No, we got nothing but nut. Nutty, nutty, nutty, nutty. Talk about, talk about, talk about, talk about nutty good.
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Michael J. Fox
Welcome.
Stephen Colbert
Welcome to the Late Show. I'm your host, Stephen Colbert.
Michael J. Fox
Folks.
Stephen Colbert
Very kind. You know, at this point, after two terms, what are we, nine months into this? We think it would be impossible for us to be shocked by Donald Trump. But give the man credit. Every so often, he takes the time attach the electrodes to our nipples.
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And.
Stephen Colbert
Then it feels like the first time. Case in point, yesterday, as part of his White House ballroom project, he sent out a backhoe to rip off a chunk of the east wing. That is it. We are not giving him the security deposit back. Yvonne, can we see that picture again? That is deeply. That is so deeply unsettling. It's like being a kid and seeing your teacher at the grocery store for sale in the meat department. As I said, we're just nine months into Trump's turn and he's going hulk smash on the White House. Last time, it took him at least four years to bring a demo crew to the Capitol. This is happening after Trump's specifically promised his ballroom construction wouldn't touch the existing White House. Here he is talking about it this summer.
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It won't interfere with the current building. It won't be. It'll be near it but not touching it. And pays total respect to the existing building, which I'm the biggest fan of. It's my favorite. It's my favorite place. I love it.
Stephen Colbert
So that was a lie. At this point, should we even believe that this is going to end up being a ballroom? Could just as easily end up being a combination Pizza Hut, Taco Bell. Nobody.
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Nobody.
Stephen Colbert
Nobody out pizzas the bell. Nobody out pizzas the bell. Now, someone in his administration is clearly smart enough to know how bad this looks, because the Treasury Department is right next door facing the demolition. And treasury has now told their employees not to share any photos of the construction. Not generally something you instruct when you're proud of what's going on. Hey, guys, remember, no photos at my wedding. And it's not because I'm marrying a body pillow of Mariah Carey. Yesterday at the White House, Trump talked about his wrecking ballroom. The one thing I don't think we make enough fun of is how his brain is filled with cotton candy fantasies of lavish, princely soirees.
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So you'll have drinks, cocktails, everything on this floor. And then they'll say, welcome to dinner. You walk into the ballroom, Mr. Senators, and you're going to see a ballroom the likes of which I don't think will. I don't think it'll be topped.
Stephen Colbert
There'll be drinks. There'll be drinks. Cocktails like this. Drinks and cocktails. Drinks and cocktails, Mr. Senators. We'll have drinks and cocktails, Mr.
Michael J. Fox
Senators.
Stephen Colbert
You saw that? You see that? This is the cocktail shape of a glass.
Michael J. Fox
Mr.
Stephen Colbert
Senators. Penguin waiters with trays of tiny hot dogs and puff pastry and a horny candelabra trying to make time with a beautiful feather duster. Be my guest, Trump. Cocktails. Now, this is.
Michael J. Fox
Chris.
Stephen Colbert
Trump has plenty of time to build his Barbie Dream Ballroom because he sure don't have a government to run. It's been three weeks, and it turns out not having government is not good. With so many federal workers furloughed, there's a pause on national park tours and new drug reviews. So these days, you'll need to get your drug reviews from Yelp. Like this one. Meth. Helped me Bike from LA to Vegas, but lost all my teeth. Spiders. Spiders. 4 stars. 4 stars. If you have some method. It had been a tough PR week for the gop. Last week, Politico published a young Republican group chat loaded with horrible messages like I love Hitler. Then a Republican congressional staffer was seen on zoom with a Nazi swastika American flag hanging on the wall behind him. But folks, that's all in the past. Until yesterday, we found out that a Trump nominee boasted of having a Nazi streak. Alright, Ivan, let's reset the counter days since last Republican Nazi thing. There you go. According to osha, we have to have one of those. Tonight's Nazi der tag is Trump's pick to head the office of Special counsel and self lubricating butler Paul Engracio. I think that's what's on his head. According to a leaked Republican group chat in 2024, Ingrassi admitted. I do have a Nazi streak in me from time to time. Folks, there's no such thing as a Nazi streak. You got any Nazi in you? You a Nazi? Hey, let me ask you, let me ask you, let me ask you before I dig in, is there any poop in this casserole? Oh, just a streak. Stick with the. I'll stick with the salad. Those are raisins in there, right? Seems that. Thank you very much. Thank you. Wasn't in the prompter. That one was free. That one was free. Threw that in there. It seemed that Engracia also had a racist streak. For instance, at one point in the chat, he used an Italian slur for black people while complaining about federal holidays, writing From Kwanzaa to MLK Jr Day to Black History Month to Juneteenth, every single one needs to be eviscerated.
Audience Member or Additional Guest
Wow.
Stephen Colbert
What a weirdly violent way to talk about days. Ooh, give me 10 minutes alone with Memorial Day and I'll give it something to rem. The GOP is having a rough ride with all of this. And in their attempts to distance themselves from the Nazi. It's not being helped by the fact that we recently learned that Trump is considering an overhaul of the refugee system that would favor white people. Explains the new poem on the Statue of Liberty. Give me your Gwens, your Declans, your huddle chads. Yearning to J. Crew now. Quality products. Nothing against J. Crew. I love a khaki. I love a pleated khaki. Trump's proposal would give preference to English speakers, white South Africans and Europeans who oppose migration. That's right. We'll only let you migrate here if you oppose migration, which means as soon as we let you in, you're going to have to help us kick you right out. They specifically want to prioritize Europeans who have been targeted for support for populist political parties, which seems to be a direct reference to the European far right political party. Alternative for Germany and would also emphasize that these migrants assimilate into the United States and respect American cultural norms. They think Germans are gonna be interested in American cultural norms? Excuse me. I'm so excited to come to your beautiful land. Just checking. How many years of paid parental leave do you give? Oh, and just. I know. Momentum. How universal is health care, really? Okay, let's do an easy one. Easy 1. Leather BDSM overalls. Yay or super yay. I've got to polish mine up. I've got to oil mine up for holidays. With stuff like this, it's no wonder 7 million people took to the streets on Saturday to protect peacefully protest this administration.
Audience Member or Additional Guest
Y'. All.
Stephen Colbert
Y' all down with it. You got any no Keynesies? You got some no Keynesies. Not that there were zero arrests. For instance, in Fairhope, Alabama, a woman was arrested for wearing this giant penis costume which the police deemed obscene.
Michael J. Fox
What?
Stephen Colbert
They can't call that obscene. You can clearly see in the picture, the penis is using a flag to cover its boobs. The cops. The cops demanded the woman remove the costume. She refused. So three of them pinned her to the ground, then arrested and then handcuffed handcuffed the penis. Oh, sure, those cuffs fit now, but just wait till that penis is in a cold prison cell. They're gonna slip right off. The woman in the costume is 61 now. You might think, good for her.
Audience Member or Additional Guest
Good for her.
Stephen Colbert
You might think, it's pretty bad. Look for three cops to tackle an older woman. But remember, they couldn't tell she was 61 because every penis looks like it's 102 years old. We got a great show for you tonight.
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Stephen Colbert
Folks, despite the fact that every AI company is telling us that AI is going to be great for everybody and wouldn't we like to use AI, Many experts are worried about an AI bubble in the stock market, which would be a disaster because presently the AI industry is 17 times the size of the dot com frenzy. Okay, that was 25 years ago and that crash was so bad a lot of us had to take our pets.com to a farmupstate.org Some of you are old enough to remember so so with the threat of a bubble, it's not surprising that big AI firms out there are trying to raise cash by getting dirty. For instance, OpenAI will now allow verified adults to use ChatGPT to generate erotic content. No? Why do we need a robot to make our erotica? There are thousands upon thousands of randy humans writing the best smut you've ever seen. I mean, anything you can think of. Anything you can think of. AI can't get weirder than this. Like these real erotic novels. Barbarian's a sci fi alien romance, Morning Glory Milking a monster bait romance. Or the classic taken by the Haunted HDMI cable. That one was even hard to say. Yes, taken by the Haunted HDMI cable. It may not sound sexy, but there is graphic depiction of frontal dongle. OpenAI says this is part of their mission to treat adult users like adults, but some have pointed out that the move could boost OpenAI as it seeks to sign up consumers for paid subscriptions. This is clearly just to boost sales, and it's just as desperate as when McDonald's changed their slogan to we do porn now. OpenAI is not alone on the road to techno filth. Elon Musk just debuted new sexually explicit chatbot companions that resemble anime characters and do things like Strip down to lacy lingerie. So the greatest computational achievement of our lifetime is going to be used for anime porn. I guess that's nothing new. I mean, we all remember Neil Armstrong's famous words. That's one small step for man. Now that I'm up here, I'm gonna crank one to Sailor Moon. Reactions to Musk's bots are mixed with one user saying, the bot says my name constantly. It also moans randomly and loudly. What's not to like about that? Hey, big boy named Craig Schneiderman. Oh, what? Craig Schneiderman. Are you wearing Craig? Oh, Schneiderman. Craig. Craig Sniderman. Craig Schneiderman. Craig. I gotta go to bed, man. I'm done. Of course, some traditional folks might not be interested in more than a one night stand with a horny chatbot. They may want a deeper relationship, but they may never happen. Because an Ohio lawmaker wants to ban marriage between humans and AI chatbots. That headline again? Ohio lawmaker's wife left him for an AI chatbot. Whoa. Craig Snyderman. Schneiderman. Fun fact. This piece of legislation comes from Ohio representative Thaddeus Clagett. No wonder he's against technology. His name is 200 years old. You know his campaign slogan? Thaddeus Claggett, Gold darn prairie dog. Sole Mahatigan. Yvonne, can we actually see a picture of Thaddeus Clagett? That does not look right. Can we run that through AI? Much better. We'll be right back with Michael J. Fox. Welcome back to the show. It's hard to believe, but it's been 40 years since back to the Future arrived in the theaters. The film, directed by Robert Zemeckis and executive produced by Steven Spielberg, starred a young Michael J. Fox who travels back in time to 1955. It was massive success, earning nearly $400 million in 1985 worldwide and made Fox a movie star. In 1991, Fox was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease and after forming the Michael J. Fox foundation, has become a tireless advocate for those living with Parkinson's. Today he has written a new memoir, Future Boy, about his Back to the Future years. And we recently sat down together here at the Ed Sullivan Theater. Michael, thanks so much for talking to me today.
Michael J. Fox
My pleasure to be here.
Stephen Colbert
It's been 40 years since back to the Future came out and changed forever how we feel about DeLoreans. When I look at DeLorean, I rarely think about cocaine deals anymore. I mostly think about your movie. When you look back to starting that film, did you have any idea the cultural impact it was going to make no.
Michael J. Fox
No concept at all. I was just going with the physical impact it would have on my body. And I'd do two things at once. It was. I didn't have time because they shot for six weeks with another actor. I came on and just hit the ground running and just wanted to survive it. And so I had no concept of it being a big movie.
Stephen Colbert
You hit on a couple of things there that I want to get into. They're all in the new book, Future Boy, A Journey through the Space Time Continuum. Your experience with Back to the Future, what people might not know that you mentioned there, you alluded to just there, is that you had a very challenging schedule, which we'll get to. But you also replaced a great actor, Eric Stoltz, who had already shot five or six weeks on the film. When you showed up, and you're with a cast that has already been working with another actor. Were you intimidated to show up to the set when they already were used to another Marty McFly?
Michael J. Fox
Well, Leah cops says in the book that she was not too impressed that sitcom showed up.
Stephen Colbert
This is the time we have to remind people again, when TV people didn't do movies and movie peoples didn't do tv, you show up on the set like, what's the vibe?
Michael J. Fox
They couldn't believe that they had to do it again. They shoot these scenes again because they had to shoot their coverage again.
Stephen Colbert
Did they insert you into existing scenes.
Michael J. Fox
Or did they show they had existing coverage? They shot with Eric, and then I just came in and plopped in there. And so all their reaction shots existed. They were reacting to another guy. So it's not fair. As an actor, that's not an ideal situation. It was tough for me because during film, I was used to sitcoms. I was used to, like, shtick. I came up with jokes. I came up with stuff, and I did stuff. Bob, these shots are so intricate that you're locked in these shots. You can't stray. You can't do a little dance. You think it's funny, stay in the shot. And it was amazing that I survived it.
Stephen Colbert
Well, barely, because it's an incredibly punishing schedule. You were playing Alex P. Keaton by day on Family Ties, A full day of shooting on one soundstage and then back to the Future at night.
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How did.
Stephen Colbert
Literally. Was it just like a car idling outside the Family Ties studio for you to dive into and get to the other set?
Michael J. Fox
Yeah. Teamster's waiting. Teamsters on the ready. The Teamster would come pick me up. Get me Eddie got Along. Throw me in the shower, get me a cup of coffee.
Stephen Colbert
The teamster would literally come in and, like, wake you up and put you.
Michael J. Fox
In the shower, turn on the shower. And I would get in the shower. He'd go make coffee. He had me, the coffee in the shower. I finished. Get dressed, okay. Go to the studio, do my bit. And I get in the car. Teams are waiting. Get a milkshake or something. Go, go along the coinga pass to. From Paramount to Universal, straight shot. And, and, and I pull in and then I get to work. And, and, and, and I change into Marty. And, and on the trip there, I kind of like Marty. Ized myself. Marty was kind of a goofy kid. And just a lot of Alex was very intense, very. A sure and driven character. So there wasn't a transition making. There was a kind of adjustment to make.
Stephen Colbert
When did you sleep? How much sleep were you getting?
Michael J. Fox
Well, think of it as getting four hours, three hours. And it was for how long? For three months.
Stephen Colbert
That's how they break people at Gitmo, you realize.
Michael J. Fox
Yeah, I was 23 years old and I was too stupid to know any better.
Stephen Colbert
Was it legal? Like, were you having to sign waivers? Cause how could unions allow this to happen to you?
Michael J. Fox
Well, simpler time. Simple time.
Stephen Colbert
I understand one of your personal favorite scenes was when Marty performs Johnny Be Good, which is a fantastic scene in the movie. Did you actually learn to play that for the movie?
Michael J. Fox
Well, I played in bands in high school, and I was being a rock and roll guy, and that's what I wanted to do.
Stephen Colbert
Do you remember the names of any of the bands you were in?
Michael J. Fox
Yeah, my, my, the big band was, was Helix, called Helix.
Stephen Colbert
Helix.
Michael J. Fox
Because we're playing people, we're trying to think of a name. We're playing ping pong. Alex. Alex Tristar. Ping pong balls.
Stephen Colbert
Oh, wow.
Michael J. Fox
But when we did the movie, I, I, they already pre recorded the tracks and I like, recorded the guitar tracks and the vocal tracks. Fine with me because I couldn't sing, so I didn't mind that. But, but I wanted to. I knew I could play the bit and play the, the riff. So I said, shoot my hands. Did Dean Ken do that? I said, shoot my hands. You don't shoot my hands. A waste of time. And it looks stupid. My hands. People might buy it for a second. And they did, so it worked out okay. All right, guys, listen this to Blues Riff and B. Watch me for the changes and try and keep up, okay?
Stephen Colbert
Did you do any of your other stunts?
Michael J. Fox
I did a lot of skateboarding. I had a lot of, I would just throw myself at things. Like I say in the book, I said my body was not a temple, it was a, it was there to be ravage of ransacked and pillage. I was ready to wipe my, my energy and youth whatever I had to to get things done. So I just throw myself into slide over a car. Obviously. How did you know how to do that? I don't know.
Stephen Colbert
Did it, you had to do it. We'll be right back with some more Michael J. Fox. Everybody.
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Stephen Colbert
Welcome back everybody. And we now return to my conversation with Michael J.
Audience Member or Additional Guest
Fox.
Stephen Colbert
Is it true that Marty McFly inspired some real life rock stars?
Michael J. Fox
That's right. Here. John Mayer told me that John Mayer, that's what he was going to play guitar and Chris Martin Nicole played famous back to future fan, big sport.
Stephen Colbert
He had me.
Michael J. Fox
I played with them and played time to be with them at MetLife Stadium and played fix you with them at Glastonbury in front of 300,000 people.
Stephen Colbert
Today, October 21 is universally recognized as Back to the Future day. It's one of the days in Back to the Future where Marty and Doc travel into the past. But there's another anniversary to celebrate. 2025 marks 25 years of the Michael J. Fox foundation which has raised over $2.5 billion for Parkinson's research. How does that feel to you to that is such a huge part of your legacy?
Michael J. Fox
Well, it's, it's tremendous privilege. And it was when this happened and I was diagnosed and took some time to try to solve it for myself. Seven years. And then I decided to go public with it and People's response was so good. And I realized the overwhelming force of all that energy focused on like I could turn as an opportunity to take that and turn it into something positive people admire.
Stephen Colbert
Not just the work you've done to raise these funds for research for Parkinson's, but your willingness to stay in the public and to be a face for Parkinson's and for the people who have the same disease. How are you feeling these days?
Michael J. Fox
Okay. It's really important that I don't. Don't show up and say nothing. If I have something to say, just show up and say it because it's. People that have Parkinson's for years were stigmatized and so. And so thought they were drunk. So. So now to. To represent something to them that to be a marker and be a place marker in society, claim this ground for us. I said we have this ground. We're trying to improve and we're here. And just. I think it's meant a lot to people only because they've expressed it to me. And I'm so flattered by it, so humbled by it. The tension goes on me, but it's not about me. It's about all these families and people that want to change things, get better and want to be healthy. So an aunt who you're talking about, It's a good thing.
Stephen Colbert
Well, the book is Future Boy. It's out now. And the Michael J. Fox foundation is celebrating 25 years. Michael, thanks so much for talking to me today.
Michael J. Fox
My pleasure. Thank you.
Stephen Colbert
Thank you, Michael. Thank you for listening to the Late Show Pod show with Stephen Colbert. Just one more thing. If you want to see more of me, come to The Late Show YouTube channel for more clips and exclusives. Now streaming on Paramount. Plus, someone is trying to frame us. Until our names are cleared, we're fugitives from interval like Bonnie and Clyde with better snacks. Espionage. You still as good a shot as you used to be?
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Stephen Colbert
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Episode: Michael J. Fox | Tearing Down The House
Date: October 22, 2025
This engaging episode of The Late Show Pod Show is a two-part treat: a whip-smart, satirical breakdown of current political headlines, followed by a heartfelt, candid interview with Michael J. Fox. Marking the 40th anniversary of Back to the Future, Fox discusses his experiences making the film, his new memoir Future Boy, and his relentless work fighting Parkinson's Disease. The episode balances Colbert's signature comic insight with reflective moments, making it both entertaining and meaningful.
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Stephen Colbert’s narration is sharp, witty, and bursting with smart-aside humor, frequently using hyperbole, playful references, and quick-turn punchlines. Michael J. Fox brings warmth, humility, and self-deprecating humor, giving an honest, open look into both his creative process and his advocacy.
This episode balances Colbert’s scathing political satire with the heart of Michael J. Fox’s legacy in film and advocacy. Whether you’re in for the headlines, the laughs, or the inspiring life stories, the episode offers a dynamic snapshot of pop culture and resilience.