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Stephen Colbert
Please have a seat. Please have a seat my friends. Welcome to the Late Show. I'm your host, Stephen Colbert. Folks, I don't know about you, but I am feeling good about Americ. April Fools. Speaking of fools, Donald Trump. Tomorrow. Tomorrow Trump will officially announce his price raising economy breaking tariffs on what he's calling Liberation Day. Yes, Liberation Day. I'm reminded of the immortal words of Patrick Henry, Give me liberty or charge me an extra $10,000 for a Hyundai Elant. Still, still gets you right up here. Right up here. Like everything, he's gotta make it a spectacle. So he's unveiling the tariffs in a major Rose Garden event. Because when you elect a reality TV star, you get all your economic policy via rose ceremony. Germany. Germany. I enjoyed our time in the fantasy suite, but your home visit left me cold. 30% tariffs across the board. Pack your lederhosen, Fraulein. There's even Dasi, Schleck, Schuck, Aassenfever. Here's how it's going to work. Here's how it works. Experts are warning that if permanent tariffs do take effect and other countries retaliate, the economy would almost immediately tumble into a recession that would last for more than a year. So if you have a retirement account. No, you don't. Republicans are already scrambling to pre contain the damage and they've settled on this fun new metaphor. There's absolutely going to be short term pain. I mean, if you're going to remodel your house to make it better, in the end, it's going to be really.
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Advertiser 2
Annoying in the short term when your.
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Stephen Colbert
House is getting remodeled. I feel like in some ways in the economy, this is kind of like a kitchen remodel or a bath remodel. There's a bit of a mess at the beginning, but everybody has a long term look of where we're headed. Way to connect to people suffering economic hardship. Republicans. You know that thing where you not only own a home, but have the money to remodel it? Okay, you seem angry. Let me try another analogy. Let's say that one of your boats needs a paint job. So that doesn't resonate. Okay. Imagine you're hungry for dinner now, but your private chef says it won't be ready for 20 minutes. Why? Why isn't this working? A reporter asked Trump about his tariff approach and his answer got kind of weird. We're going to be very nice, relatively speaking. We're going to be very kind, Mr. President. Somebody said that about me the other day. Said, who doesn't know me very well. They said, you're such a kind person. And I said, say that again. They said, you're a kind person. I said, I've never heard that before. Yes. Never heard.
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Advertiser 2
Never.
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Stephen Colbert
Now I've heard a lot. Never heard. Never heard kind. I've heard selfish. A hole. I've heard Demented sack of garbage. I've heard syphilitic sociopath who never got love from his father. And all of those were from Melania. So Trump said. Trump said all that stuff there in an Oval Office press gaggle celebrating his new executive order aimed at ticket scalping, where he invited a special guest. It's an honor to have you back A friend of mine, Kid Rock, sometimes referred to as Bob. I know him as Bob, but he's been a good friend for a long time. Many years. And he's been after something that is for the good of a lot of people. You. You. You guys see him too, right? Good, good, good, good. Okay. It's not just me. He's really there. Okay. Kinda. Kinda spooky. Bob kind of just appeared. I'm sorry, Jim, can we see Mr. Rock again? He looks like an Uncle Sam who just found a stripper floating in his above ground pool. He looks like he should be filled with candy and let children beat him. He looks like if Harold Hill and the Music man were a porno star. And it ends with a stripper floating in an above ground pool. Oh, here's some fun news out of Idaho, where on Wednesday their governor signed into law a bill that criminalizes the public exposure of breasts. Yes, you cannot have topless women running around Boise. It violates the Idaho state motto. Idaho. Nothing interesting here, please. This bill, this bill is an update to a pre existing indecent exposure law which will now ban the display of female breasts. Male breasts altered to look like female breasts, artificial breasts and toys or products that resemble genitals. What? No toys? This is terrible news for the ill fated Rubik's labia. It's all blurred. There's no part of the toy that is unblurred. I've never solved it, but hey, this booby bill. But this booby bill has had an unintended consequence because according to Idaho state minority leader Melissa Wintrow, the bill would allow people to call police over dangling faux scrotums. Truck hitches, commonly known as truck nuts. They can't castrate our trucks. No. They're supposed to go honk, honk, not hoo hoo, hoo, hoo. Wintrow said of truck nuts. They're gross, they're offensive, and kids on the road see them. So why wouldn't the police get a call and say, that offends me. Pull it off the truck. That's going to make for some unusual traffic stops. License and registration, please. Sir, are you aware of how big your balls are? All right, you can go. You can go. Speaking of hot areas, Trump has a plan to solve the problem of global warming. Say it's not a problem. Evidently, Trump wants to convince the world that climate change is a good thing. All that is bad is now good. War is peace. Hate is love. Higher prices are lower prices. And that thing where you bite the inside of your cheek and then you can't stop biting. The exact same spot all day long is now brunch. Specifically, Trump wants to rewrite an EPA report that found greenhouse gases emissions to be a threat to public health and produce a national climate assessment written by climate deniers who argue that the impacts of climate change are overstated or would even be a net positive. Sure, it's not climate change, it's climate zhuzhing. It's not warming oceans, it's unlimited seafood bisque. One climate expert says in America, anyone is free to call devastating storms, flood, floods, droughts, air pollution, killer heat waves, and a growing threat of mosquito and tick borne diseases a good thing. But saying it doesn't make it true. No, that does not make it true. What will make it true is when Trump signs the executive order saying tick borne diseases are a good thing. Next to his good friend, Kid Tick. Long walk. Long walk. Your callback. It's a very long walk. Your call back. The only thing worse than Trump's global warming ideas are his immigration ideas. See, he's been flying plane loads of immigrants out of the country without any due process, some of whom he's accused of being gang members based largely on their tattoos. All right, let's book this maniac. His bicep contains a clear threat to shoot mom through the heart with an arrow. Now, ICE isn't sending these guys back to their home countries. Instead, Trump has been flying them to El Salvador, where they've been put in a notorious maximum security prison where prisoners do not receive visits and are never allowed outdoors. And those are the kind of inhuman conditions previously only endured by people who work at Amazon. Which reminds me, where are my Nespresso pods? I ordered them 20 minutes ago. Oh, just arrived. Last week, Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem toured the prison and posed for this disturbing photo, which, coincidentally, is also the poster for the upcoming crossover show Mad Fury Road. MILF Manor. Pretty good. Up till now, the administration has claimed it's only pulling the no hearing snatch and grab on bad guys. But yesterday, they conceded in a court filing that they mistakenly deported a Maryland father to El Salvador because of an administrative error. An administrative error? An administrative error lands you in an inescapable prison where no one ever hears from you again. That's like something out of that Kafka novel. Damn, that's the worst thing I've ever heard. And keep in mind, I'm dying of tuberculosis in an Austrian sanatorium. Apparently, the man in question had already received protected legal status from an immigration judge and Trump's lawyers acknowledged that ICE was aware of his protection from removal. This is so insane, this is so off the charts insane that one of Trump administration's own lawyers texted a reporter covering the story what the. Which would make pretty good lyrics for our new national anthem and the home. What the. Okay, this is very bad. But at least they admitted their mistake. I mean, who among us hasn't accidentally popped a black bag over the head of a Maryland father and then rendered him to a hellscape prison in El Salvador? Let's just bring him back. No harm, no foul, right? Wrong. Cuz in that same court filing, the Trump administration said the court has no ability to bring him back now that he is in Salvadoran custody, arguing that Trump's primacy in foreign affairs outweighs the interests of the deportee and his family. Okay, if that stands, then it's goodbye habeas corpus. Trump's primacy outweighs the court's. And don't think that that only applies to folks like this detainee if there's no due process. We have no idea if any of these people are citizens, meaning every single person on American soil is now at risk of being disappeared until the day Trump and his goons are finally out of power. I wonder if there's a way to describe what that day will feel like. Liberation Day. We got a great show for you tonight coming Michelle Williams if you're a parent or share a fridge with someone, Instacart is about to make grocery shopping so much easier. Because with family carts you can share a cart with your partner and each add the items you want. Since between the two of you, odds are you'll both remember everything you need. And this way you'll never have to eat milkless cereal again. So minimize the stress of the weekly shop with family carts, download the Instacart app and get delivery in as fast as 30 minutes plus enjoy. $0 delivery fees on your first three orders. Service fees apply for three orders in 14 days. Excludes restaurants.
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Stephen Colbert
Folks. My first guest tonight is a five time Academy Award nominee. You know, from Brokeback Mountain, Fosse Verdon and the Fablemans. She now stars in the new series Dying for Sex.
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Advertiser 2
I'm too young and it sucks. Okay? I haven't done anything with my life. I actually don't know what I like or what I want. I've never. I've never even had an orgasm with another person. And now I'm gonna die.
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Stephen Colbert
Good. Molly.
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Advertiser 2
Hey, we have something for your list. Orgasm with another person.
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Stephen Colbert
Please welcome back to the Late Show, Michelle Williams. Hiya. Nice to see you again.
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Advertiser 2
What nice friends you have.
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Stephen Colbert
Oh, they're lovely people. Last time I saw you, you were juggling a lot. You were on to promote Fabelman's, for which you got an Oscar nomination. You had just given birth to your third child six weeks before. And after that you took a little break. Right.
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Advertiser 2
Just two and a half years.
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Stephen Colbert
Okay. That's a good. That's a healthy break.
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Advertiser 2
It's a retirement.
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Stephen Colbert
Yeah. What did you. Did you enjoy the downtime?
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Advertiser 2
I did with the kids? Yeah. That's nice.
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Stephen Colbert
How old are they?
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Advertiser 2
We've got 19. We've got almost five. We've got two.
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Stephen Colbert
Wow, nice spread.
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Advertiser 2
Yeah, you know what? It turns out it is. Thank you. Thank you. It is a nice spread, actually.
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Stephen Colbert
So what is this? Is Dying for Sex the thing that brought you back?
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Advertiser 2
It is indeed, yes. Much to my surprise. Well, you just, you know, you never really know when you're like, I'm in the business where you just, you wait for the phone to ring, you wait for a script to land. You just like really don't know what's coming. Hence, two and a half years. That was, it was a happy accident, but it was an accident. I was very happy to be home with the kids and just sort of in my life, but nothing had like, pulled me out of my life. Not that I was looking to take so much time off. It just happened like that. And then this script landed and I think that, I think you know immediately and you might have like a conversation with yourself. Should I really? Is it. This is going to be that. But what about this? What about that? As soon as I close that page, I was like, oh, I think, I think that has my name on it.
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Stephen Colbert
We saw a little clip from the show. Can you explain just exactly what the story. And I understand it's based on a true story.
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Advertiser 2
It is. It's a real life story. It's based on a podcast called Dying for Sex and it's about two best friends, Molly and Nikki. And on her second cancer diagnosis, this one terminal. I play a woman named Molly who decided to leave her marriage and turned to her best friend and said, I want to die with you. And proceeds to go on what I guess I would term as a sexual healing journey, as a path to self discovery, healing, and ultimately a way to be in her body and to express herself fully and to feel and have pleasure before she is left without bodily sensation. So this was this woman's brave path. This was her choice, this was her journey, and this is how she lived it and this is how we portray it.
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Stephen Colbert
Like her embracing the vitality of that.
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Advertiser 2
Exactly.
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Stephen Colbert
Well, you know, because of what the, you know, Molly's goals are. There are some spicy scenes here. And this has been described by New York magazine as the kinkiest show on tv. All right, that's adventurous. That's adventurous. Also the kinky show on tv, which is also a comedy about dying. So did you have any qualms about jumping straight into this? Because you have to be very comfortable with that as yourself, as an actress and portraying that on screen.
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Advertiser 2
I like to go heart first into the great unknown. And I think that I fall in love and then I see where it leads. I've come to know this about myself. Like, I'm a leap and then look kind of person, and that's how I find myself in all sorts of wonderful situations.
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Stephen Colbert
Any of the situations totally new to you? I'm just curious, like, how anything particularly stand out to you as something that Molly does that's adventurous? That might have been quite surprising to you as an adventurous thing someone does in sex. Not judgmentally, just something not judgmentally. Just like I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know how far afield she goes from the experience.
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Advertiser 2
She taught me a lot.
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Stephen Colbert
She taught you a lot. Okay. And we'll all learn a lot by watching.
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Advertiser 2
Yes, it's very educational.
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Stephen Colbert
Jason, we have to take a quick break. We'll be right back with more Michelle Williams. This season, let your shoes do the talking. Designer Shoe warehouse is packed with fresh styles that speak to your whole vibe without saying a word. From cool sneakers that look good with everything. The easy sandals you'll want to wear on repeat. DSW has you covered. Find a shoe for every heel from the brands you love, like Birkenstock, Nike, Adidas, New Balance and more. Head to your DSW store or visit dsw.com today.
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Stephen Colbert
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Stephen Colbert
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Stephen Colbert
Visit shopify.com to upgrade your selling today. Hey, everybody. We're back with Michelle Williams, the star of the new show on fx, Dying for sex. It's got a fantastic cast. You got Sissy Spacek, you got Jenny Slate, Jay Duplass, Rob Delaney. Even the great comedian Paul Pell is in here as a hospice nurse. Did it help to have so many funny people on set when you're dealing with something that's vital but also so dark?
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Advertiser 2
In many ways, yes, but it's a real liability. Like when you yourself haven't been around so many funny people and you're not like, dead on the inside to the humor. I had to bite my own tongue, pinch my own hand, have a little push pin that I would just sort of like, use on myself when I couldn't contain myself. I had to inflict like, a little bit of pain to get through some of these takes of these other comedians. I mean, I really, I was desperate. I didn't know what else.
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Stephen Colbert
You're inflicting agony on yourself.
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Advertiser 2
It was the only way I could.
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Stephen Colbert
Get a desperate bid to not enjoy.
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Advertiser 2
Yourself, just like I am now, biting my own tongue.
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Stephen Colbert
Well, the show, I'm sure, can be heart wrenching, but, you know, which is expected given the material. I'm just curious, you know, are there any. It is a comedy. At the same time, are there any lines that you particularly enjoyed delivering? I sense there's a yes somewhere behind that.
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Advertiser 2
There was one line that I found so funny, and I didn't know why I found it so funny, but I found it so funny that I had a really hard time getting out. And I think I ruined, like, take after take after take. I don't even know if it made it into the final cut. But she, my character, she's talking about her medical history and her best friend is having to describe her medical history to a doctor. Because my character's having a hard time speaking up for herself and like, telling. Saying what it's like to be in her own body. Because that's just not how we're conditioned to be able to talk freely and openly about this thing that we all inhabit, yet we all feel such shame about it. I think ultimately what the show is really about is can you experience pleasure without shame? Can we Separate the two, finally. So in this scene, my character's too shy to talk about her own body and her best friend is reminding her of actually what she's going through. And my character retorts, my character is so embarrassed about that. I think she has to use an Irish accent to cover it up. She has to disguise her own feelings about her own body with an Irish accent and finds herself saying, ah, yes, I am a wee bit dry. A wee bit dry in my vagina. And it's.
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Stephen Colbert
I know that song. Yes, that's a beautiful line and an important one. I understand you love poetry. I mean, as an actress, I'm sure you just love language, but I understand you also love poetry and I'd love poetry too. I'm curious if you've got a favorite poem that pops to mind, if I could ask.
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Advertiser 2
Gosh, you know, it's something I actually really like to think about, like before I go to work. I like having. What I love about poetry is that it's like pocket sized and like very digestible and you can sort of hang onto just like a little, you know, as it relates to this show, I often think about that line, wild and precious, you're one and only, you're wild and precious. And I find it so moving that this is what, this is the bold choice that this one woman took Mary Oliver son today. Yes, of course, of course. Yeah. I mean, I say it, I hope we all know it. I hope we all know the whole thing by heart. It's all worth learning. But you know, like that last line, like, what if it is our only go around and what if it's. What if it is the one and only. And how do you want to spend your. What befits it so. And I think it's really like to go your own way and to follow where your own nature would be leading. So I always think about that. But what about you?
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Stephen Colbert
What about me?
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Advertiser 2
Yes.
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Stephen Colbert
Oh, I love Mary Oliver's Summer day. It's fantastic. I send it to my kids on the first day of summer every year to remind them of, like, tell me, what will you do with your one wild and precious life? Isn't that beautiful? But I'll tell you, talking about like, you know, sex and death and everything. I'll tell you a quick poem I really like. I, I, this is, it's an E E. Cummings poem. It's a really short one. It goes, Mr. Hughes needn't be so spry concerning matters arty, each to his tastes. But as for I, I likes a certain party. I'll take the He Man's solid bliss for Hughes ideas. I'll match yous. A Pretty Girl who naked is is worth a FX Dying for Sex premieres this Friday on Hulu. Michelle Williams, everybody. Thank you for listening to the Late Show Pod show with Stephen Colbert. Just one more thing. If you want to see more of me, come to The Late Show YouTube channel for more clips and exclusives.