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Stephen Colbert
Welcome one and all to the Late Show. I'm your host, Stephen Colbert. We do like 160 of these a year or something. And when I have the chance, it's always nice to start the show with some good news. Well, just a few hours before we taped this broadcast, we got word that our long national late nightmare is over. Because Disney announced that Jimmy Kimmel Live will return to air on ABC tomorrow Tuesday night. Come on. Yes, sir. As well as should be. This is. I just couldn't. I have this wonderful news for my dear friend Jimmy and his amazing staff. They continue to show. That's right. You know, I'm so happy for them. Plus, now that Jimmy's not being canceled, I get to enjoy this again. Yeah, I was tested. I was cussed. Once more. I am the only martyr in late nights. Wait, unless cbs, you want to announce anything. Huh? Huh? Huh? What? Huh? Huh? Still no, right? Because the money thing. I forgot. Yeah, the money thing. Now Disney Put out a statement which said, last Wednesday we made the decision to meow, meow, meow, whatever. Here's why. Disney folded after Kimmel was suspended for Google searches for cancel Disney and cancel Hulu spiked. Which explains why the other trending search was how to entertain Feral Child without bluey question mark. So Disney put Kimmel back on because you, the American people, were upset. Okay, but not just people. Also Ted Cruz. It's true. Cruz. Cruz was one of the conservatives who were outraged by the administration's attack on free speech. He threatens explicitly, we're going to cancel ABC's license. We're going to take him off the air so ABC cannot broadcast anymore. He threatens it. He says, we can do this the easy way or we could do this the hard way. Yeah, And I gotta say, that's right out of Goodfellas. That's right out of a Mafioso coming into a bar going, nice bar you have here. It'd be a shame if something happened to it. Wow. I am, I gotta say, I am shocked that I agree with Ted Cruz on something, but I'm even more shocked that he somehow got Robert De Niro to come on the podcast. That was beautiful. Meh. See me, I'm taking off the air. See, ABC was being flooded with complaints about taking Jimmy off the air. But not all those complaints went to the right place. Because down under, the Australian Broadcasting Company, which also goes by the initials abc, was being barraged by misdirected complaints about the Kimmel suspension. Come on, folks, leave them alone. Don't attack Australian abc. I mean, there's nothing. They never canceled their popular late night host, horrifying giant spider. Good ratings. Good ratings. Anyway, welcome back, Jimmy. Long may you wave. Hey. While we're all nice. When nice things happen to nice people. While we're all being happy, I want to wish a happy New Year to my Jewish viewers. Tonight is the start of Rosh Hashanah Shanatova to all who celebrate and a sweet 5786. I hope you enjoy all the traditional Jewish New Year celebrations. I believe it's going to Times Square to watch the brisket drop. That's not the only major religious event going on because a lot of folks are pretty excited about how the rapture and end of the world are coming tomorrow. So September 23rd. Ooh, tough break, Kimmel. So close. So close. What are you gonna do? Shout out to me, it's the big man? I'd delay it for a day. So how do we know tomorrow is humanity's Big finale. Well, it's a divine prophecy from Joshua Mshkela, a South African preacher. Yes. As it says about the return of Christ in Matthew 25:13, Ye shall know neither the day nor the hour, unless you're some random dude in South Africa. Anyway, anyway, see you tomorrow, maybe. I'm secretly hoping it might get raptured, because while Kimmel might be back, there's still a whole lot of ways Trump is doing bad stuff. And yet, occasionally, ladies and gentlemen, he still is able to surprise me. Like Saturday, when he posted this message to Attorney General Pam Bondi. Pam, I have reviewed over 30 statements and posts that say essentially same old story as last time. All talk, no action, nothing is being done. What about Comey, Adam, Shifty, Schiff, Latisha? They're all guilty as hell, but nothing's going to be done. Okay, lot going on there. First, he's calling on the Attorney General to prosecute his political foes. Whether there's evidence of a crime or not, that's a pretty big deal. Also, yeah, also, he reviewed statements and posts. Does that mean he just read the Internet? Pam, listen up. Pam, I saw a picture of a guy walking down the street with his girlfriend. And, Pam, he's looking at another girl over his shoulder. And that girl was named takeout. And Pam, get this, his girlfriend walking next to him was named food you have at home. She gets angry, lock them both up. Pam, something's not. Also, that post of his was definitely meant to be a text. Nothing screams old man texting like starting with the recipient's name. Well, time to text my grandson Joey for his birthday. Joey, you are my grandson, and it is your birthday. Signed, I am your grandpa. Bondi hasn't said what she's gonna do. Thank you. I do a lot of character work. I'm essentially an actor. I'm an actor. I'm really a hoofer. Bondi hasn't said what she's going to do, but thus far, the Trump DOJ hasn't shown a lot of backbone. Case in point, we just learned some damaging info about Trump's border czar and goon who can't remember where he left the hooker's body. Tom Homan. Dar. I think it's on the roof, boss. Reportedly, last year, when it looked like Trump might win and Homan would be appointed to the administration, he was recorded accepting a bag with $50,000 in cash for. From undercover FBI agents. In exchange. In exchange for future government contracts, the cash was given to Homan inside a bag from the Mediterranean Food chain Cava. Yes, he ordered a chicken bowl with a side of bribaganoush, but nothing. Come on, man. We got eight and a half months left. But come on, man. If you're gonna stuff a bribe in a bag from a fast, casual place, how do you not go with sweet gre? So Homan. There you go. So Homan was caught on tape accepting money in exchange for government contracts. And after Trump took office, the Justice Department officials shut down the case. Well, sure, of course. They had to. It's not like Homan was committing a real crime. Like, looking like he might speak Spanish today. Yeah. Today, White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt denied anything ever happened.
Scarlett Johansson
Mr. Homan never took the $50,000 that you're referring to.
Stephen Colbert
You know what that means? Somewhere out there, there's a kava bag with $50,000. Everyone check under your shawarma. Those aren't Napkins. Levitt continued.
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Stephen Colbert
She's right. We actually have acquired a photo of Patel looking into it. Actually looks pretty bad. He looks pretty shocked. I don't think this is over. I don't think. Hello. Hi. In another dictator move on Friday, without any warning, Trump signed a proclamation imposing an annual $100,000 fee on. On H1B visas. That's two bags of kava. For context. The current cost to companies for H1B visas is about $1,500. So this is around 60 times that, which experts say will set the US companies back $14 billion a year, including some of Trump's pals like Amazon, Meta, Google, Walmart, and Apple. Apple's going to have to make some deep cuts. They'll be replacing the Genius bar with the moron shelf die. Your laptop was working. Your laptop was working, so I poured some water on it. Now, where'd I put that hooker's body? If you're wondering why domestic labor hasn't filled those jobs, it's because, as my immigrant writers tell me, most Americans haven't undergone the vital school course known as mom threw a flip flop at me because I got an A in second grade math. And as I said, as I said, this order came out of nowhere, so it immediately caused mass panic. The administration just didn't clarify how they'd apply this fee. So a bunch of companies freaked out and asked tens of thousands of foreign workers to come back into the country quickly or. Or to never leave it. One flight out of San Francisco was delayed by 3 hours and 40 minutes as flyers tried to get off the plane just before takeoff. And only half of those because they were flying spirit. People got so confused that Caroline Levitt had to post a tweet explaining that, among other things, that this applies only to new visas, not renewals and not current visa holders, and that this is not an annual fee. Okay, got it. This fee is not $100,000 per year. I don't know where people could have gotten that stupid idea from. Do you know where Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick. Well, they're $100,000 per year. I'm sorry. I didn't. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't know what's going on with my hearing. I'm sorry. One more time per year. Mr. Secretary. I hear they're hiring at the moron shelf. We've got a great show for you to.
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Welcome back, everybody. Ladies and gentlemen, my first guest tonight Is an actor, you know, from Marriage Story, Black Widow and Jurassic World Rebirth. She's now making her directorial debut with Eleanor the Great. Please welcome back to the Late Show, Scarlett Johansson. Hi, welcome back.
Scarlett Johansson
Well, thanks for having me.
Stephen Colbert
Always nice to have you here.
Scarlett Johansson
I feel like it's been a minute.
Stephen Colbert
It has been a minute. You've been on more than once before this, but it has been a little bit. In fact, do you know the first time you were on the show?
Scarlett Johansson
The first time I was on the show. I feel like it was your second show.
Stephen Colbert
It was my second show. How was it? We eventually figured it out. You were great. You were great. Here you are. This is 1,701 shows ago. There you are. And you. Well, we're just. You have not changed at all. And I'm gonna say, neither have I. There you go. There you go.
Scarlett Johansson
No comment.
Stephen Colbert
Ok, I need your moisturizer routine. Robert Redford passed away last week, and I never got a chance to even meet the fella, but he's such a towering figure. You got to work with him.
Scarlett Johansson
I did, yes.
Stephen Colbert
When you were only 12.
Scarlett Johansson
I was 12, yes.
Stephen Colbert
What were you doing here?
Scarlett Johansson
We were doing. We made a film called the Horse Whisper, which Bob directed and starred in.
Stephen Colbert
Look, Bob. You get to call him Bob.
Scarlett Johansson
I get to call him Bob? Yes.
Stephen Colbert
Did you call him Bob then?
Scarlett Johansson
I actually had a nickname for him that was Bowie, which is something that I don't think I've ever told anybody, but now I've told everyone.
Stephen Colbert
Why Bowie?
Scarlett Johansson
I don't know. I mean, I was 12.
Stephen Colbert
Wow.
Scarlett Johansson
I guess it was not Mr. Redford. No, I mean, it wasn't. We didn't have that kind of. I mean, he was such a warm, kind, patient, generous, wonderful man. And he would take so much time with me every day.
Stephen Colbert
He was also the director.
Scarlett Johansson
He was the director. So I got to work with him as an actor, which was, you know, extraordinary. And he was just so warm. And we have a very special relationship. In the film the characters do, where he really actually therapizes my character. And he in real life had that type of Persona, just so calm and kind and patient. He would sit and he would wait. He would talk me through the scene, every scene that we would do. He would talk me through where my character had been through up until that point. And it was like he had all the time to do that. And it was. It really, you know, I had a. It was transformative for me. I had a complete understanding of, oh, this is actually a craft and something you get better at and understand more the more you put into it. That was all because of Bob, Mr. Redford. Slash Bowie.
Stephen Colbert
He's amazing.
Scarlett Johansson
Wonderful man.
Stephen Colbert
That's lovely. That's a lovely memory. Now you're directing your first feature, Eleanor the Great, which is in theaters on Friday. And here you are directing. I like props. I like visual aids. There you go.
Scarlett Johansson
Oh, my God, there you are. In full direction that I directed the film.
Stephen Colbert
Exactly.
Scarlett Johansson
Yeah.
Stephen Colbert
And you got the things around your neck and you're making this gesture with your hand.
Scarlett Johansson
That's right. Basically just ordering a sandwich, like, what do you want in your sandwich?
Stephen Colbert
But decisively. Decisively. When did it occur to you, like, oh, I want to be a director. This is a goal.
Scarlett Johansson
Actually, it was when I was working with Bob.
Stephen Colbert
You mean Bowie?
Scarlett Johansson
That's right. You called him that, too. Yeah, I remember seeing him on the set. He would have those intimate conversations with me. Then he would be coordinating a huge scene with our amazing first ad, Joe Reedy and Bob Richardson, our dp. And it was like, that job seems pretty interesting. I'd like to do that job someday. And then I spent many years being like, who would ever want that job? You're basically just answering questions.
Stephen Colbert
Well, that's it. I'm just curious. I like to ask directors this question. I especially like to ask actors of great note, like yourself, who end up being directors. What did you, as an actor? What do you want from a director?
Scarlett Johansson
Oh, gosh. What do I want from a director? I think curiosity, you know, that's what I like.
Stephen Colbert
What do you mean? Like, how might a director exhibit that with you as an actress?
Scarlett Johansson
I think it's about, you know, this is a collaborative, you know, effort to. I'm here as an actor and I'm trying to understand, like, what your vision is. Director of this film and how can I serve what your vision is. And then the curiosity of, what if we tried this? Or I have an idea that's totally outside of the box. Could this be something that we could explore? And just the playfulness, I think, and openness to the collaboration ideas, like following a scene when it goes a certain way. That's unexpected discovery. Yeah, all of that stuff.
Stephen Colbert
Anything surprise you about it? Like the thing like, oh, I did not expect this part of the job. I mean, we must take a million decisions an hour.
Scarlett Johansson
A lot of decisions that you can't go back on. You can't. Well, sometimes you can, right?
Stephen Colbert
That's money all the way.
Scarlett Johansson
Yeah, it's money and time. Sometimes you have to go back on decisions. Sometimes You've made a decision so strong and then you get to that moment and it's like, oh, crap, I can't use any of that. You know what I mean? Like, it's a whole new bag. You have to problem solve on the spot. But I think it's. I didn't realize how it can be kind of a lonely job, weirdly, because you're there, you know, first thing in the morning. It's just with you all the time and you're the last person to leave and unless you're Michael Bay. But no, but you.
Stephen Colbert
I have a follow up question which I won't ask for your sake.
Scarlett Johansson
No, I love Michael Beck, but he.
Stephen Colbert
Knows when to go home.
Scarlett Johansson
Yeah, he does. No, but, no, but I think it weirdly feels like you're kind of on an island a little bit sometimes. And that can be. Yeah, it can be a little challenging, but you find comfort in the fact that the whole crew is there waiting for answers that you have to give them. And it was a wonderful experience. I loved it.
Stephen Colbert
Did you get any advice from any of the great directors you've worked with? Like, you've worked with Christopher Nolan and Sofia Coppola and Noah Baumbach and Wes Anderson. Did you call them up and say, what do I do?
Scarlett Johansson
No. I should have though, I think, you know, honestly, I've worked with so many amazing directors and I've worked with a lot of directors that are actors as well. And I think, you know, just when I worked with Jon Favreau, we've worked together a couple of times, but we did the second. Iron man was the first time we got to work together and the cast was really stacked with a very diverse group of actors in the way that they approached their work. You know, like Mickey Rourke and Sam Rockwell and Robert, of course, and Gwyneth Paltrow. It was a lot of different styles and I was like, how do you go in between all of us? You know, like, what is the. We're all such different actors and how do you approach it? He was like, I just. I'm sort of like a therapist. I just kind of become the person. I understand what the vocabulary is that the other person needs to, you know, get to where they're going.
Stephen Colbert
Thank you, Gwyneth. Let's follow that feeling.
Scarlett Johansson
There you go.
Stephen Colbert
Well, Robert, we've made some great progress today. Let's take it up next week. We have to take a quick break. We'll be right back with more Scarlett Johansson. Everybody stick around.
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Stephen Colbert
Hey everybody. We're back with Scarlett Johansson, director of the new film Eleanor. The Great. Eleanor the Great stars the great June Squibb who is just, she's just lovely. We had her on the show, had a great time. I got the baseball cap and everything. Loved the June squibbing. 95 years old.
Scarlett Johansson
Yes.
Stephen Colbert
What's the film about?
Scarlett Johansson
What is the film about? The film is about? Well, it's about a lot of things. I mean, it's about forgiveness, it's about grief, it's about love, it's about friendship. And it's about a woman who loses her best friend who moves back to New York to be with her daughter. And she's kind of an invisible person here as a 94 year old woman in rediscovering Manhattan and she ends up in a Holocaust survivor support group and through a series of events ends up forming a friendship based on a lie. And that is what the film is about.
Stephen Colbert
We have a clip here. Anything we need to, it's in a grocery store.
Scarlett Johansson
Anything we need to, it's in a grocery store. And it's about the importance of pickles.
Stephen Colbert
So it's a New York story. Jim. Excuse me. We are the closest kosher. They're supposed to be right here. I guess we're at. Hello. Do you have.
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Stephen Colbert
Well, we have a bunch of other pickles right here.
Scarlett Johansson
And honestly, I think. I think all pickles taste the same. Excuse me.
Stephen Colbert
No. Are you listening to this? All pickles are the same.
Scarlett Johansson
I heard. Hey, Charlie.
Stephen Colbert
Nice name.
Scarlett Johansson
How long you been working here, Charlie?
Stephen Colbert
I don't know, like, few weeks. That's cute. Well, yesterday was delivery day. And you know how I know? Because we've been coming here every Friday for the last 16 years.
Scarlett Johansson
Can you count to 16, Charlie?
Stephen Colbert
The best. She's the best. What was she like? What was she like to work with? Here you are once again proving your director.
Scarlett Johansson
I'm taking June's sandwich. Order in this photo.
Stephen Colbert
There you go.
Scarlett Johansson
Yeah. June. Oh, my God. She's the best. You've had her on. I mean, she's so, you know, she's abroad. You know, she has amazing stories. She's like, so. She's an incredible actor. So sinewy, so prepared. She would have a perfect take every setup, which is basically like you get a couple in many months of shooting. She had it every time. And I was telling somebody how she has this perfect take every setup. And she said, you know how long I've been doing this for? Like, I'm doing the wrong job if I am not in that.
Stephen Colbert
She was a Ziegfeld girl or something, wasn't she?
Scarlett Johansson
Yeah, she's been working since she was 17 and she was in the touring production of Gypsy with Ethel Merman. She's been working for like 70. Gosh, more. 80 years almost.
Stephen Colbert
We should all have such a career.
Scarlett Johansson
Yeah. She's extraordinary. She's extraordinary.
Stephen Colbert
Scarlett, lovely to see you again. Thanks for coming. Eleanor the Great is in theaters Friday. Scarlett Johansson, everybody. Thank you for listening to the Late Show Pod show with Stephen Colbert. Just one more thing. If you want to see more of me, come to The Late Show YouTube channel for more clips and exclusives. And Doug Limu and I always tell you to customize your car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual. But now we want you to feel it. Cue the emu music. Limu.
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Episode: Scarlett Johansson | Gimme Jimmy
Date: September 23, 2025
Guest: Scarlett Johansson
In this lively episode, Stephen Colbert is joined by actress and now director Scarlett Johansson, who discusses her directorial debut, Eleanor the Great. The episode kicks off with Stephen’s signature satirical take on political news—including Jimmy Kimmel’s return to air, late-night industry shake-ups, and recent government actions. The main attraction is Johansson’s thoughtful, often humorous interview where she reflects on her Hollywood journey, working with legends like Robert Redford, and the joys and challenges of directing. The episode is full of memorable moments, warmth, and industry insight.
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The episode flows with Colbert’s trademark blend of wit, empathy, and insightful questioning. Scarlett Johansson comes across as both grounded and thoughtful, sharing personal stories with openness and good humor. The conversation is rich in behind-the-scenes details, gentle self-mockery, and respect for the craft of filmmaking and acting.
This episode showcases the best of late-night podcasting: sharp topical monologue, a revealing and substantive celebrity interview, and memorable moments of sincerity and laughter. Scarlett Johansson’s journey from child actor to director is explored with depth and levity, making it a must-listen for fans of film, storytelling, and industry insight.