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Seth Rogen
Hello, my friends, and welcome to the Late Show. I'm your host, Stephen Colbert. We are on. What is this? We are on day. Is it day three? This is day three of the scandal that historians are already calling Pete Hegseth's Kakayameni group chat. Whoops O Hoothi bloopers. Previously previously on Rank Incompetence. The top officials of the Trump administration, something like 20 of them, discussed highly classified plans to bomb Houthi rebels in Yemen on the publicly available messaging app signal. Lot of folks are saying that's breaking like a bunch of laws. Oh, also, and this is the fun part, they failed to notice that in their chat group they had included editor in chief of the Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg. Yeah, that's not usually the first choice to include journalists in your highly classified military government stuff. As we learn in the movie Tinker Taylor, Soldier, Atlantic Editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg. Okay. He's great in it, though. He's great. Gary Oldman. Really? Really. This is an unprecedented failure of national security protocols and a grotesque disregard for. For the safety of American service members. Or as Donald Trump would say, no, it isn't. In fact, Trump told reporters that even if it had been all secret stuff, Goldberg didn't even hang around long enough to see it. From what I heard, the man that we're talking about was not somebody that I don't think most people have ever heard of. He left. He found it very boring. And he left early. Yes. No, he did. He left Very early. Take it from me, this is very boring stuff. Every day. No, every day the intel folks tried to make me listen to blah, blah missiles and drone strikes. Meow, meow, meow. Sorry, Sorry. Nobody cares about Houthi and the Blowfish anymore. I don't know. Wow. I don't know. No.
Stephen Colbert
Will you take me?
Seth Rogen
The administration practically dared Goldberg in the Atlantic to release the attack plans that Trump's advisors shared on signal. So this morning, Goldberg released. Here are the attack plans that Trump's advisors shared on signal. Damn. Now I know why the Atlantic doesn't have wordle because they don't come to play. This. This text chain done blowed up all the administration's nuttin to see here. For instance, dni, Tulsi Gabbard and CI Director John Ratcliffe testified on Capitol Hill yesterday. Right. That there was no classified information. Let's take a look. Hegseth A 1215 Eastern Time F18s launch 1415 strike drones on target. This is when the first bombs will definitely drop. That seems pretty secret. Y this is the sloppiest breach of security since Winston Churchill said this.
Stephen Colbert
We will fight them on the beaches.
Seth Rogen
At precisely 3:05pm we will fight them on the landing grounds at coordinates 51 degrees north, 1.3 degrees east. We will never surrender.
Stephen Colbert
Hey, how'd the Germans get here so fast? I surrender.
Seth Rogen
It wasn't just times and strikes. Hegseth also texted information about the target of the strike saying target terrorist is at his known location, so should be on time. Should be on time. I've seen that text before. Those missiles haven't even left their apartment yet. Should be on time. I'm in the tunnel right there. Traffic. Traffic is killing me. So all of this is clearly classified. And that's not just me saying that. One defense official said it is safe to say that anybody in uniform would be court martialed for this. My most junior analysts know not to do this. Yes, everyone understands this. The characters in Fight Club understand this. It's why the first rule of Fight Club is don't send out an evite for Fight Club. Don't. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Given the classified nature of these texts, the Atlantic staff deliberated about releasing them. They reached out to the White House and Press Secretary Caroline Levitt tried to have it both ways, writing, as we have repeatedly stated, there was no classified information transmitted in the group chat. However, this was intended to be an internal and private deliberation amongst high level senior staff and sensitive Information was discussed. So for those reasons, yes, we object to the release. Okay, so she's saying there's no classified information, but there was sensitive information and there's a big difference. Classified documents are stamped for your eyes only while they mark sensitive documents with natural feeling and almost like wearing nothing at all. Yeah, yeah. The sensitive documents. On the sensitive documents, the tip is the most sensitive part. The full release of this text chain also made a liar out of national Security advisor and stepdad who would have really liked to have been the one to walk Brittany down the aisle. Mike Waltz. All day yesterday, Waltz insisted that he's never talked to Goldberg. But then why did Waltz have the journalist's phone number? One theory is that Waltz is a source for Goldberg, which Trump would hate. So here's how he tried to spin it last night on the Ingraham Angle with Laura Angle. But how did that number. I don't mean to be pedantic here, but how did the numbers. Have you ever had somebody's contact that shows their name and then you have somebody else's number there? Oh, that. Okay, that was a little hard to follow. But Waltz continued. Have you ever had a dream that.
Stephen Colbert
That you.
Seth Rogen
You had.
Stephen Colbert
You.
Seth Rogen
You would you could. You do you wish you want.
Stephen Colbert
You. You could do so you.
Seth Rogen
You do you could. You.
Stephen Colbert
You want. You want him to do you so much.
Seth Rogen
And then there was more. I'm sure everybody out there has had a contact where you. It was said one person and then a different phone number, but you've never talked to him before. So how's the number on your phone? Well, if you have somebody else's contact and then it. And then somehow. Oh, someone sucked in you that it gets sucked in. It gets sucked in. It gets sucked in. Okay, so you're discussing military secrets on an app that's so insecure that the numbers of people you've never spoken to just get sucked in and then that person is part of the chat. Well, something sucks, but I don't think it's the numbers. Also, after the Atlantic article dropped, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth did what any mature, slightly buzzed individual would do when accused. He posted an unhinged rant on Twitter saying the Atlantic released the so called war plans. And those plans include no names, no targets, no locations, no units, no routes, no sources, no methods, and no classified information. A lot of that stuff was actually in there. I just. Were you looking at the same page? Were you looking at the right page on the Atlantic website? There was no war plan. Just a fascinating deep dive on how Lady Gaga finally sounds like herself again. Hegseth. Hegseth is too busy to think about this stuff anyway, saying as I type this, my team and I are traveling the Indo Pacom region, meeting with commanders and talking to troops, adding for more. Hit me up on signal and I'll add you to the group chat. There you go. Can you take me higher hair to hear. So Pete says Petey Hegg says it's cool to share the timing of American airstrikes on a publicly available app. And that raises some questions. And today reporters asked those questions of the White House press secretary. Why aren't launch times on a mission strike classified? Again? I would defer you to the Secretary.
Stephen Colbert
Of Defense's statement he put out this morning.
Seth Rogen
Do you trust the Secretary of Defense who was nominated for this role or do you trust Jeffrey Goldberg? Jeffrey Goldberg. I trust Jeffrey Goldberg. I mean in this thing, this right now, I don't trust Hegseth on anything to do with launching strike. Based on what we already know about his aim, we got a great show for you tonight. Coming up.
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Seth Rogen
Hello my friends. You know my first guest from Knockoff Neighbors and the Fabelmans. He's now a co creator, director and star in the studio.
Stephen Colbert
Patty, I gotta talk to you about the motel sequence in Ron Howard's movie.
Seth Rogen
Oh, beautiful, Moving, sublime.
Stephen Colbert
Yeah, yeah. Way too long though.
Seth Rogen
Oh, I almost drilled a hole into my brain to kill the part of.
Stephen Colbert
Me that senses time. What?
Seth Rogen
When was it never gonna End.
Stephen Colbert
Yeah. Yeah. Why did you tell him you liked it so much? I'm on my own now, Mattie. I have to suck up to talent.
Seth Rogen
Like every other schmuck producer in town.
Stephen Colbert
My God, this job is a daily.
Seth Rogen
Kick in the old race.
Stephen Colbert
Yeah, look, look, I gotta tell him that I want him to cut it from the movie. Don't you even try. Oh, it's so personal. Yeah, I heard you say that. What? What's so personal? He didn't tell me that it was personal. It's so personal he doesn't even want.
Seth Rogen
To talk about it.
Stephen Colbert
Well, what does it mean? What, is it the kid at the motel who represents a cousin Ron, who died when they were both young? No. Really? No, that whole sequence is about Ron.
Seth Rogen
Letting go of the cousin's death and moving on.
Stephen Colbert
God, that's like, worst case scenario.
Seth Rogen
No, a sibling would be worse. Hey, I got a script about an Australian chess team that cheats. Will you read it?
Stephen Colbert
Tonight you talk to Ron about cutting the sequence from the movie.
Seth Rogen
You're kidding.
Stephen Colbert
No, I'm not working on this movie.
Seth Rogen
That's a problem for you to solve, boss. Please. Welcome back to the Late Show, Seth Rogen.
Stephen Colbert
That's nice. Thank you.
Seth Rogen
Very pleasant. Nice to. Nice to have you on again. Always. Always lovely to have you on the show.
Stephen Colbert
Thank you.
Seth Rogen
Thanks for helping us move some puppies over.
Stephen Colbert
No, hey, I'll move puppies all day.
Seth Rogen
Congratulations on the new show. I can't wait to watch the studio. Thank you so much. Okay, it's the talk of old Hollywood town. For the people who don't know, explain what it's about and who you play and maybe why everybody out there is trying to guess who's who.
Stephen Colbert
Yeah, I play a guy named Matt Remick, and in the show I run a. A Hollywood movie studio that exists in today's version of Hollywood. It's Paramount, Universal, and there's one other studio called Continental Studios. And in the show, like, the major conflict is one I'm sure you're familiar with, is that of art versus commerce. And my character loves movies and is a huge movie fan, but as the head of a studio, often has to make choices that makes movies worse. And he loves directors and he loves movie stars, but he's constantly having to disappoint them by giving them notes they don't want to hear or by, you know, just in general ruining their passion.
Seth Rogen
He wants to make. He wants to make movies, but he has to run a business.
Stephen Colbert
Yes. He doesn't want to get fired. And that conflict I think is at the heart of show business.
Seth Rogen
Oh, so he's the head of the studio, but he's not the boss.
Stephen Colbert
There's a CEO. And that's how these companies work is like they answer to a board often. Bryan Cranston plays my boss on the show.
Seth Rogen
Okay.
Stephen Colbert
Who's like the CEO of the parent company who is pressuring me in the pilot. I have to make a movie based on the Kool Aid man. And that.
Seth Rogen
So like that's the intellectual property that you.
Stephen Colbert
That is the IPR studio has is Kool Aid. And because I love film, I decide I want to make the fancy Kool Aid movie like the Oscar winning, auteur driven Kool Aid film.
Seth Rogen
Sure.
Stephen Colbert
Yes. And so I try to hire Martin Scorsese to direct the Kool Aid movie to hilariously disastrous results.
Seth Rogen
Early in the series, as you sort of hinted at it just now, your character says, I got into this because I love movies, but now I have this fear that my job is to ruin them.
Stephen Colbert
Yes.
Seth Rogen
Is it true that you once had a Hollywood executive say that to you?
Stephen Colbert
Very much so, yeah. Me and my partner Evan were in a meeting early in our careers and we were rewriting a movie and the executive said exactly that. He was giving us notes, we wanted to make it very R rated and edgy and he was telling us we couldn't. And even though he thought it was funny. Yeah. And in a moment he hung his head and said exactly that. I got into this cause I love movies and now it's my job to ruin them.
Seth Rogen
Does this person still work in the movies?
Stephen Colbert
Oh, he runs 20th Century Fox Studios. His name's Steve Asbel.
Seth Rogen
He's a great.
Stephen Colbert
He's a lovely guy. And he's very conflicted about what he.
Seth Rogen
Has to do during the. To like to make this movie. And when you're out of this, when you were creating this series, I understand you did research with some formal and not so formal interviews with people who have this job or producers or studio people in Hollywood. Has anyone watching the series called you up to say, I know that's me.
Stephen Colbert
Yes. I've been yelled at three times in the last week by.
Seth Rogen
So they're not pleased with the.
Stephen Colbert
Some of them are pleased, Some of them are not pleased. I will say yes. Yes. There's an episode in particular about the Golden Globes. And the whole thing is my character just wants desperately to be thanked in a Golden Globe speech, which is very important to Hollywood executives. And it's years ago we made a film that won a Golden Globe. And at the after party, we saw one of the executives crying and we assumed they were crying cause we won and they were happy. And we went over and we're like, we won. Is that why you're crying? And they said, no, they forgot to thank me during the speech. And then we made a whole episode about that. And. And the person who it's based on knows that we made a whole episode about it. And they, in no uncertain terms yelled at me.
Seth Rogen
Very recently, just as importantly, are there people who think they're being depicted who are not?
Stephen Colbert
Yes. Also, people have projected themselves onto these characters in a way that is not accurate. And conversely, I had a call from a studio executive who said it was so real and it was so truthful to my story, I couldn't stop crying when I was watching it. And I didn't have the heart to tell him, but I was like, it's not based on you at all, man.
Seth Rogen
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You don't wake up dreaming of McDonald's fries. You wake up dreaming of McDonald's hash browns. McDonald's breakfast comes first. Ba da ba ba ba.
Seth Rogen
We're back with Seth Rogen, writer, director, star of the new Apple TV show the Studio. As we, as we saw in the clip there with you and Catherine O'Hara, is that it's not just fictitious studios and studio executives. There are real actors really playing themselves and directors really playing themselves. Ron Howard, Olivia Wilde, Zoe Kravitz. Yep. But in the first episode, you had this crazy job. You had to direct Martin Scorsese.
Stephen Colbert
Yes, Martin Scorsese's in the Show.
Seth Rogen
And how was that?
Stephen Colbert
Well, it was great. Like, you know, we wrote a part that was very specific for Martin. It was Martin Scorsese. So you have, you know, right doing the Kool Aid, he could only play Martin Scorsese. And so we sent it to his agent and we were so excited when we heard that he liked it and he wanted to do it. And then I was confronted with the very real reality that I had to now direct Martin Scorsese in something, which as a director is your worst nightmare in the entire world, is having to direct one of the greatest living filmmakers in something. And so I was incredibly scared. My mother called me that morning and she was like, you must be terrified. This is the scariest thing you could possibly have to do.
Seth Rogen
So how do you shake it all? How do you prep?
Stephen Colbert
It was terrible. It was very well. I over prepared, actually. Cause the show, we shoot in a very specific way where we use one camera and it's all long continuous takes. There's no cutting. It's long continuous shots. And you don't usually shoot comedy like that. And so I was very nervous. Martin Scorsese would not like it. And I was so scared he'd be like, where's the other camera? Cause you usually use two cameras. And so I hired a whole second camera crew and we were shooting in a hotel and I just stashed them in a hotel room somewhere in the off chance Scorsese was like, where's the second camera? I wanted to be like, they're right here. I got them right here.
Seth Rogen
Way ahead of you, Marty.
Stephen Colbert
Way ahead of you, Marty.
Seth Rogen
You and your partner Evan, who you mentioned before, you've been a team for a long time, you guys teens.
Stephen Colbert
We met when we were 12 years old in bar mitzvah class.
Seth Rogen
Oh, wow.
Stephen Colbert
Yeah.
Seth Rogen
And then you've been partners all this time. Are some of the stories that are in this based upon the experience you had as you were trying to make your way?
Stephen Colbert
Very, very much so. It's almost all real and based on things that we've either witnessed ourselves or have happened to us or we ourselves have done. There's an episode in the end where the premise is that we have to do a presentation. And one of the people doing the presentation takes too many drugs and we just lose them and we have to find them before the presentation. And it's based on a story where when I made the 40 year old Virgin, it was in 2005 and it was the first big thing I was a part of. So I invited all my friends to come to the premiere, including Evan, who came to la. And Evan got unbelievably messed up. And it was like probably his first experience with an open bar. He went insane. And we had a big stretch limo, and we were driving back to my place, and we were gonna go to Cantor's deli, which was right around the corner. It's kind of like Katz's of Los Angeles. And we realized that Evan was gone and no one could find Evan. And he literally went missing. And I lived around the corner, so people went around the corner to look. He wasn't there. The limo was circling the block. The cannons was on. No one could find him. Meanwhile, I'm eating chicken fingers and pastrami and faith, he'll show up. And at the table beside us, it was like three in the morning were the Russo brothers, who went on to direct the Avengers movies. But at the time, they directed Arrested Development. They were like comedy TV directors. And we. I knew them a little bit, and I saw one of them come back from the bathroom and sit down and say to the other one, there's a buck naked man in the bathroom upstairs. And I was like, it's Evan. And I went up there, and he was sitting on the stall on a toilet with the bathroom door open, completely passed out, naked in the stall. And I was like, evan, what are you doing? And he's like, I went home, and I passed out. And I was like, you're not at home. You're in the bathroom of Cantor's deli. Like, this is an operational deli you're in right now. And I was like, you gotta get dressed, man. You gotta get dressed. And so he's like, yeah, no problem. And he closed the bathroom door, and I hear like, a kerfuffle. And he comes out in his suit, perfectly done up, but he's holding his underpants in his hand. And I was like, you can't go back to the table holding underpants in your hand. That's a real red flag. And he was like, no problem. And he just threw them in the garbage. And we went back down and we ate pastrami. It was a great night. Had by all.
Seth Rogen
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Stephen Colbert
Hollywood glamour. That's why we do this stuff, kids.
Seth Rogen
Seth, good to see you, man.
Stephen Colbert
Thank you.
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Episode Summary: "Seth Rogen | Chain Of Fools"
Release Date: March 27, 2025
In this episode of The Late Show Pod Show with Stephen Colbert, host Stephen Colbert engages in a dynamic conversation with renowned actor, comedian, and filmmaker Seth Rogen. The discussion navigates through a recent political scandal involving high-ranking Trump administration officials and delves into the creative intricacies of Rogen's latest project, the Apple TV show "The Studio."
The episode kicks off with Stephen Colbert addressing a significant breach of national security protocols within the Trump administration. Approximately 20 top officials were found discussing highly classified plans to bomb Houthi rebels in Yemen via the publicly accessible messaging app, Signal. In a glaring oversight, the group's chat inadvertently included Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, raising eyebrows about journalistic involvement in sensitive military discussions.
Key Points:
Security Lapses: The use of Signal for sharing classified information underscores alarming security vulnerabilities.
Journalistic Oversight: Including a journalist like Goldberg in such a critical discussion highlights a profound disregard for standard security measures.
Administrative Repercussions: The scandal has ignited debates about the potential legal ramifications for those involved, with suggestions of possible court-martials.
Notable Quotes:
Stephen Colbert ([01:02]):
"This is an unprecedented failure of national security protocols and a grotesque disregard for the safety of American service members."
Seth Rogen ([04:32]):
"At precisely 3:05pm we will fight them on the landing grounds at coordinates 51 degrees north, 1.3 degrees east. We will never surrender."
Colbert and Rogen dissect the broader implications of the leaked text messages, questioning the administration's handling of classified information and the subsequent fallout.
Key Points:
Public and Political Reaction: The scandal has sparked widespread criticism, with figures like Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth vehemently defending the administration's stance.
Media's Role: The Atlantic's decision to publish the leaked messages has positioned it at the center of the controversy, raising ethical questions about journalism and national security.
Internal Conflicts: The inclusion of high-profile journalists in such sensitive discussions hints at deeper, possibly orchestrated, conflicts within the administration.
Notable Quotes:
Seth Rogen ([10:46]):
"Do you trust the Secretary of Defense who was nominated for this role or do you trust Jeffrey Goldberg? Jeffrey Goldberg. I trust Jeffrey Goldberg."
Stephen Colbert ([04:45]):
"It wasn't just times and strikes. Hegseth also texted information about the target of the strike saying target terrorist is at his known location."
Shifting gears from the political discourse, the conversation seamlessly transitions to Seth Rogen's new venture, "The Studio," an Apple TV show that offers a satirical glimpse into the tumultuous world of Hollywood studio executives.
Key Points:
Show Premise: "The Studio" explores the tension between artistic passion and commercial pressures within a fictional Hollywood movie studio, mirroring real-world industry challenges.
Character Dynamics: Colbert portrays Matt Remick, the passionate head of the studio who grapples with the demands of producing commercially viable yet artistically fulfilling films.
Real-Life Inspirations: Rogen shares anecdotes from his personal and professional experiences that inspired various storylines within the show, adding authenticity and depth to the narrative.
Notable Quotes:
Stephen Colbert ([15:05]):
"Yes. He doesn't want to get fired. And that conflict I think is at the heart of show business."
Seth Rogen ([22:09]):
"It's almost all real and based on things that we've either witnessed ourselves or have happened to us or have done ourselves."
A highlight of the episode is the candid discussion about the challenges of directing one of cinema's legends, Martin Scorsese, within the confines of "The Studio."
Key Points:
Preparation for Excellence: Colbert recounts the meticulous preparations undertaken to meet Scorsese's high standards, emphasizing the show's commitment to authenticity.
On-Set Dynamics: The interaction between Colbert and Scorsese is portrayed with humor and respect, underscoring the delicate balance between creative vision and directorial prowess.
Humorous Anecdotes: Colbert shares lighthearted moments from rehearsals, revealing the camaraderie and occasional chaos that characterize collaborative creative processes.
Notable Quotes:
Stephen Colbert ([20:25]):
"I was incredibly scared. My mother called me that morning and she was like, you must be terrified. This is the scariest thing you could possibly have to do."
Steven Colbert ([21:47]):
"Way ahead of you, Marty."
Throughout the episode, Rogen and Colbert interweave personal stories that resonate with the themes of "The Studio," providing listeners with a behind-the-scenes look at the inspiration behind the show's plotlines.
Key Points:
Evan's Mishap: Colbert shares a humorous yet insightful story about his longtime collaborator Evan getting lost after an overindulgent night, paralleling chaotic events depicted in "The Studio."
Industry Reflections: These anecdotes serve as a reflection of the unpredictable nature of the entertainment industry, highlighting the thin line between professional obligations and personal escapades.
Notable Quotes:
Stephen Colbert ([24:37]):
"Hollywood glamour. That's why we do this stuff, kids."
Seth Rogen ([24:38]):
"We're back with Seth Rogen, writer, director, star of the new Apple TV show The Studio."
The episode masterfully balances a serious discussion on political mishaps with lighthearted banter about the entertainment industry. Seth Rogen's insights into "The Studio" offer a compelling look at the intersection of creativity and commerce, all while maintaining the signature humor and wit that The Late Show Pod Show is known for.
Stephen Colbert ([03:19]):
"Will you take me?"
Seth Rogen ([12:24]):
"Hello my friends. You know my first guest from Knockoff Neighbors and the Fabelmans..."
Stephen Colbert ([14:17]):
"Yeah, I play a guy named Matt Remick, and in the show I run a Hollywood movie studio..."
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the essence of the episode, providing both an overview of the critical political discussion and an in-depth exploration of Seth Rogen's creative endeavors in "The Studio." Whether you're a fan of political satire or insider takes on the entertainment industry, this episode offers a blend of insightful commentary and engaging storytelling.