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Stephen Colbert
Welcome, welcome one and hall in here, out there, all around the world to the Late Show. I'm your host Stephen Colbert. Hey remember. Remember when the Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg was added to Pete Hegseth's non secure but super secret battle plan signal text chain by National Security Advisor Mike Waltz Brace yourself Today, Trump ousted National Security Advisor Mike Waltz. It was a tough decision, and as with anything this sensitive, the first person to find out was Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg. Despite getting canned, Waltz can be proud of what he accomplished. Out of everyone in the Trump administration, his face was most shaped like a mailbox. Also, he actually lasted a pretty long time for a Trump National Security Advisor. He held the job for 101 days. Now remember in 2017, Trump's first national security advisor, Michael Flynn, lasted only 22 days. But Trump has high hopes for his next pick for the job. A basket of ripe avocados. This has gotta be. I'd make that into gu. Get some limes in there fast. Serrano. This has got to be a little embarrassing for Walt, especially because just two days ago, he published an article titled 100 Days of National Security Wins. Reminds me of the captain of the Titanic's article four perfect days of no Iceberg smashing. So finally, finally, a member of the Trump administration faces lasting consequences that lasted three and a half hours. Because this afternoon, Trump announced he will be nominating Mike Waltz to be the next Ambassador to the U.N. no, no, this is perfect. This way, Waltz will be able to share every country's secrets with Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg. Now, all of this has got to tick off Trump's previous pick for UN Ambassador, New York MAGA Republican Elise Stefanik, seen here watching Trump give her job to the dumbest man on signal back in was this March. Back in March, Trump yanked Representative Stefanik's UN Nomination out of concerns that if she left Congress, Republicans wouldn't have enough votes in the House. And it's gotta sting. The Waltz is now in line to get the UN ambassador's key, a $16 million penthouse suite in Manhattan. Oh, that's a really tough break. But if it helps Congresswoman Stefanik. Ha ha ha ha ha. Now, Waltz isn't the only one facing some hard times. In the latest sign of economic tur, McDonald's profits just dropped 3.6%, the biggest drop since the pandemic in 2020. My God, what have I done? God, no. I've hurt the only one I've ever loved. How will I explain this to my adopted Irish son? Phil a o fish. Phil a o fish. The tartar sauce is dripping upon my tie. But then I suck it off.
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Stephen Colbert
No, don't reward me. Don't reward this behavior. The catalyst for all this economic bad news is Trump's tariffs, of course. Specifically his 145% tariff against China. And it's about to get more worser. In April, cargo sailings from China to the US fell 60%. They ain't gonna be sending us any of that cheap stuff. The 99 cent store is gonna have to change its name to Shelves and Smells. But. But now is not a time to panic over tariff induced shortages. Now, because we just found out that some Trump administration officials are stockpiling toilet paper. Why? China doesn't make our toilet paper. Bears do. But the headline everyone's talking about is that retailers fear a toy shortage this Christmas. And yesterday, Trump Was asked about that possible toy shortage at a Cabinet meeting. Somebody said, oh, the shelves are going to be open. Well, maybe the children will have two dolls instead of 30 dolls, you know, and maybe the two dolls will cost a couple of bucks more than they would normally. Your answer is, fewer dolls for our children. And what are we going to give our kids? A single Rock Em Sock Em robot. He's just fighting his inner demons. Why did dad leave us? Oh, God, was I bad? Oh, God, is that why he left? Sad story. It was kind of a sad story. Just there with a. Never felt sorry for Rock Em Sock Em before. This meeting went on for two hours, and most of it was devoted to cabinet secretaries performing the important work of government tongue bathing Trump's ass meat. Take Attorney General Plam Blondie. Since you have been in office, President Trump, your DOJ agencies have seized more than 22 million fentanyl pills, 3,400 kilos of fentanyl, since you've been your last hundred days, which saved. Are you ready for this, media? 258 million lives. Okay. Intercepting fentanyl. Fantastic. Saving 258 million lives. Bondi is saying that if not for Trump, about 75% of Americans would be dead. All right, two, I got something. I got something to put that in perspective. Are you listening, media? If everyone look to your left, look to your right. Are you dead? No. You're welcome. If this number. If this number seemed like it was yanked out of a briefing hole, well spotted. Because when asked how Bondi arrived at that number, the DOJ provided a formula saying 3.4 million grams of fentanyl, multiplied by the current purity level of 0.1518 divided by.002, the lethal amount per gram. The result, 258 million, 60,000. That formula is insane. And I know that because I asked my brilliant researcher Katherine about it, and Katherine had to call her parents, who are both actual mathematicians, and they said, and I quote, that's insane. So Donald Trump has really done the impossible. He made an adult call her parents for help on a weekday. And it wasn't for the Netflix login. Now, this Cabinet meeting wasn't your average, all you can munch Trump crack snack. Because while the jerks were circling, we learned that Elon Musk might soon be stepping down from ruining everything. And Trump made it clear at the Cabinet meeting, in front of everybody, Trump made it clear this was Elon's decision. You know, you're invited to stay as.
Walton Goggins
Long as you want. At some point, I guess he wants.
Stephen Colbert
To get back home to his car. I'm being told that we have a live reaction from his cars after hearing that Elon is coming home. All this great safety record. Great safety record. All this upheaval has Americans asking one important question. Who would win in a fight between 100 men and one gorilla? So the question is, can 100 men fight one gorilla? There's a huge debate raging. 100 men or one gorilla? The question has exploded all over TikTok and Twitter with thousands of people posting mixed opinions like gorilla would win and it would be over in 10 minutes. They could maybe take the gorilla after 87 of them get turned into smoothies first. And my husband says 100 men could easily defeat a go. Well, ma'am, your husband also said he could easily install some of those closet hooks, but he couldn't defeat charging the cordless drill, now, could he? It's important to remember, ladies and gentlemen, that gorillas real big, okay? 8 foot arm span, can weigh more than 400 pounds and are estimated to be up to 10 times as strong as human beings. Where are we even going to find 100 men violent and crazy enough to try and fight? Red Sox game, Boston Red Sox game. Put a Yankees hat on the gorilla. He's toast. This vital question has spread so widely that now guerrilla experts are chiming in, with one expert saying gorillas are in fact, gentle giants and would avoid this conflict whenever possible. Yes, gorillas hate confrontation. That's why gorillas are so bad at asking for a raise. Coco happy to be part of team. But Coco have three kids in college. Coco deserved. Never mind. I'll go back to Coco. Go back to data entry. Now, ladies and gentlemen, I may not be the Don King of Ape Fight, but I do have an opinion. Men, meet me at the 100 Men Cam. Hey, men. Hey, fellas. Thanks for taking a break from referring to food as fuel. I just want you to know that on the whole gorilla thing, you're never gonna win. You know where they got the phrase it's on like Donkey Kong from Mario's Clothes Casket Funeral. We got a great show for you tonight coming up. Walton Goggins.
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Hey, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back my friends. Folks, my first guest is an Emmy nominated actor, you know from Justified, Fallout and the White Lotus. You can now see him as baby Billy Freeman in the Righteous Gemstones. Only son. This battle must be won. So I give you the power to heal.
Walton Goggins
I got your miracle right here, nerd. I pronounce you heal. Come on, drop them damn crutches. Get to dancing.
Stephen Colbert
Turn the other cheek a ch chance. Those suckers don't stand a chance. Oh, teen. Please welcome back to the late show, Walton Goggins. Nice to see you.
Walton Goggins
Hey, yeah. Changes.
Stephen Colbert
Yeah, Life is good to Walton Goggins these days.
Walton Goggins
It's pretty good.
Stephen Colbert
Yeah.
Walton Goggins
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Stephen Colbert
It's Walton Goggins. It's the Goggins verse. And we're all just living in it right now because you were here last August, but since then went to the Emmys as best actor nominee for Fallout. Then you dominated the must see TV white lotus season this year dominated and then went straight into the final season of the Righteous Gemstones. How that is? That is, as we say where I come from, that is some high cotton. How are you feeling about what things are going for Walton Goggins?
Walton Goggins
You know, honestly, I don't think that anybody is having a better time than I am right now. And I genuinely, I mean, I genuinely mean that.
Stephen Colbert
But I think people are also happy for you because people have seen you do all this fantastic work for years and now it's all coming together for Walton Goggins.
Walton Goggins
I've been around a long time and I do, I feel a bit like Chauncey Gardener, you know, in the sense that, you know, there's a spring and a summer and there's a fall and a winter, and if the roots aren't severed, all will be well. And I'm just, I'm just having the really the time of my life. And I'm 53 years old, right. I've been around for a really long time. And so I'm able to look at all of this with joy and just gratitude. And I mean, I know who I am. I'm very, very, very comfortable with who I am. And if you had hit this kind.
Stephen Colbert
Of success, like, right out of the gate. If you had been this Walton Goggins at 22, who would I be talking to right now?
Walton Goggins
A guy that just got out of drug rehab in Columbus, Georgia, for sure. No, it would have been a very different thing over the course of my life. I mean, like yourself, I've been around a long time and. God. Oh, I'm so sorry. That was a backhanded compliment, but you're just wise.
Stephen Colbert
No, I understand why I actually could not get employed for anything. Go ahead.
Walton Goggins
Yeah, no, I. God, whoever she is, has given me things in my life, you know, that I could handle. I feel that way, like. And, you know, the good things that have happened in my life and the traumas that have happened in my life, and I don't feel like this is an exception. I am so right sized about all of it, and I'm just really having a great time.
Stephen Colbert
Well, I want to know what you. Do you remember the first time we met? I think we talked about it. We were just walking down the street trying to get from one event to the other at the Emmys. I think we were trying to get over to the night before thing, the charity thing that Mr. Katzenberg sets up. And I didn't know you and you didn't know me, but we just got together because we had to walk across the street or something together immediately. I didn't know you immediately liked you. You were doing the Unicorn at the time.
Walton Goggins
I was doing. I started the Unicorn.
Stephen Colbert
Yeah. He's like a really great guy. And now you've gone from great guy to heartthrob. Okay, no, no, people. No, no, no, no, no, no. Well, don't fight it. Things are throbbing.
Walton Goggins
Things are throbbing.
Stephen Colbert
Okay, so this. Okay, look at this. This says, there's headlines. How White Lotus star Walton Goggins became Hollywood's most unexpected heart throb. That's a little backhanded, too.
Walton Goggins
That's a little backhanded, isn't it? Let's be honest.
Stephen Colbert
And this one is mildly so, too. Walton Goggins, the hottest hairline in town.
Walton Goggins
That's nice. You know, the truth is, when we were doing the White Lotus, I didn't. I asked, like, I don't had anyone do my hair. I did my hair myself. And I would just have, like, a tequila at night and kind of wake up in the morning and roll out of bed and just throw some stuff in it, because that's what Rick Hatchet did. And I never had any makeup. Like, no one ever touched me with makeup. The only Thing that they did do was put some dirt under my fingernails when I didn't already have some in there already. Like, it was pretty simple.
Stephen Colbert
So what I like about your hair is you look like you just got out of a convertible.
Walton Goggins
You know what I can't believe?
Stephen Colbert
Or maybe a biplane. You were in some high wind.
Walton Goggins
It's funny that you say that because that is kind of. I think that's what I go for, right? It's like to roll up to Stephen Colbert as if it was nothing. Knowing in my heart that it's everything, right? And look like you, you know, you have just. Well, it's true, right? You get the opportunity, but the but to just feel like it's effortless. And that really kind of is how I live my life. It's how I travel.
Stephen Colbert
You're pulling it off, baby.
Walton Goggins
Thanks, man.
Stephen Colbert
You're pulling it off.
Walton Goggins
Hey, you know what? It's from the heart. Thank you.
Stephen Colbert
We have to take a quick break. Don't go. Anyway, we'll be right back with more Walton Goggins, everybody.
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Walton Goggins
TV's hottest show is Fire Country.
Stephen Colbert
We're firefighters. We're gonna find a way to get you out of here.
Walton Goggins
We take the hits together.
Stephen Colbert
We're on the same team. I'm right here with you no matter what. I would never leave you hanging in the deep end. This place is a way of giving you new family Fire Country.
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Walton Goggins
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Stephen Colbert
Hey, we're right back here with a man of so many projects, but we're talking about the righteous gemstones tonight. It's Walton Goggins. You do seem to be Feeling pretty good, because not everyone can pull off this look in public. What is this from? This is from Cultured Magazine. I just want to let everybody know, Put grandma to sleep, because this is one of the photos from that is that not everyone can traipse around in public like this. This is on the Santa Monica Pier on the Ferris wheel there, isn't it?
Walton Goggins
It is. It is.
Stephen Colbert
Is that even legal for you to be dressed like this?
Walton Goggins
No, no, no, it wasn't legal. It wasn't legal at all. And as a matter of fact, I had. Once we got on the Ferris wheel, I had these sweatpants that I put on, and then as soon as the Ferris wheel started to move, I would take them off really quickly, and then just kind of model like, whatever, like this thing, and he would take a bunch of photos. And as the wheel was kind of returning to the bottom, I had to put them on really quickly. Yeah, but you know what? That's this thing about. When I said about this experience, you know, I've been around it such a long time, and I'm so grateful for everything in my life. I'm really approaching this with such, like, a childlike abandon in the sense that Cena, the photographer, said, you want to put on these yellow Speedos? And I said, yeah, sure. Why not?
Stephen Colbert
Like you would say to a child.
Walton Goggins
Yeah. Yes, son, if you're watching. If you're watching this.
Stephen Colbert
Oh, my goodness. Do you like heights?
Walton Goggins
Do I. You know, I actually. I have an aversion to heights, but.
Stephen Colbert
The reason I'm asking is that. Were these white when you put them on?
Walton Goggins
Because I'm just.
Stephen Colbert
Curious about that color.
Walton Goggins
Well, and then you got the yellow jacket, and then there were yellow kind of cowboy boots.
Stephen Colbert
You look angry. You look angry having to wear any clothes in this photo. You know what?
Walton Goggins
Yeah, that's. Yes, that's probably. Yeah, that's.
Stephen Colbert
Anyway, it's good for you, man.
Walton Goggins
It was good. Well, you know, the thing about this, there was one particular moment when we were the true story. We're heading over to the Ferris wheel, and I'm having such a good time with this photographer. And this is the kind of photographer who said, like, let's just walk out on the street. And I said, okay, what do you want to shoot? He said, well, there are people over there in a painting class. All of these ladies. Why don't you go talk to them? And I said, sure. Yeah, I'll wear a yellow bathing suit, and I'll talk to these ladies, and I'll become a part of their painting. Class. And I asked them. I got the canvas and whatever, and they let me sit down with them. But then on the way there, I got so excited, and we were in this car that I said, oh. I said, oh, okay. Get your camera ready. Get your camera ready. And I stood up out of the sunroof. I just kind of stood up. And then, like, he was taking photos from underneath. It was really cool. I said, you think that's cool? Watch this. Take. Take pictures while I jump out of this moving car and go across the traff. The lane of traffic. I did. I got really excited. I'm an enthusiastic person. And I did. I got. I mean, like, they were going slow. We were in traffic, right?
Stephen Colbert
Did you stay upright?
Walton Goggins
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I opened the door. We were only going about three or four miles an hour, and I. And I got out, and I went across the lane of traffic, looking back at the camera, you know, and he was kind of taking pictures. I got to the other side. They had to keep going. And a cop car came with a.
Stephen Colbert
Siren, one of those.
Walton Goggins
And he said, excuse me, sir. Excuse me. And I said, oh, my God. I'm so sorry, officer. I'm so sorry. And he said, what are you doing? I said, I'm doing a photo shoot. And he said, well, where's your photographer? No one was there. Everyone was left in the car.
Stephen Colbert
This is. This is him explaining himself for real to the cop.
Walton Goggins
And I thought I was going to jail. I really thought I was gonna go to jail.
Stephen Colbert
I'd be a legend. I would add to the legend.
Walton Goggins
And it was only because he said at the end of it, he said, I'm a huge fan of the Shield, so I'll let you go. Which is a cop show that I did.
Stephen Colbert
And he played that for many years. There you go. Well, you've been doing the Righteous Gemstone since the beginning. Amazing character. Uncle. Uncle. Uncle Baby Billy. And he's been on a quest to produce the hit, the smash musical hit Teen Just. Which is about a teen Jesus.
Walton Goggins
Yes.
Stephen Colbert
Well overdue. And you were kind enough to bring us a snippet of you from your recording session of the musical. Can we. Jim, can we show this filming now?
Walton Goggins
All right, let's see here. We got to get this down now. I'm in a recording booth. I got to record this song. I got to record this album. Who has me on the other line? Let's go. When we hit the floor yeah, we turning hardcore Gonna settle every score Gonna win this holy war To a groove that's so divine, turning water into wine. And when you lose your mind, guess what? We gonna turn the other cheek.
Stephen Colbert
The Righteous Gemstone series finale airs Sunday on HBO and is streaming on Max Walton Goggins, everybody. Thank you for listening to the Late Show Pod show with Stephen Colbert. Just one more thing. If you want to see more of me, come to The Late Show YouTube channel for more clips and exclusives.
Walton Goggins
Now streaming.
Stephen Colbert
When everything's on the line, real heroes rise to the occasion.
Walton Goggins
TV's hottest show is Fire Country.
Stephen Colbert
We're firefighters. We're going to find a way to get you out of here.
Walton Goggins
We take the hits together.
Stephen Colbert
We're on the same team. I'm right here with you no matter what. I would never leave you hanging in the deep end. This place is a way of giving you new family Fire Country.
Walton Goggins
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Stephen Colbert
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Podcast Summary: The Late Show Pod Show with Stephen Colbert
Episode: Walton Goggins | The Last Waltz
Release Date: May 2, 2025
In this episode of The Late Show Pod Show with Stephen Colbert, host Stephen Colbert welcomes Emmy-nominated actor Walton Goggins to discuss his recent projects, personal experiences, and insights into his thriving career. The conversation is both engaging and humorous, providing listeners with an intimate glimpse into Goggins' life and work.
Stephen Colbert opens the episode with his signature sharp wit, addressing recent political changes and economic concerns. He humorously critiques the short tenure of Trump’s National Security Advisors, notably Mike Waltz, who served for 101 days—a stark contrast to his predecessor Michael Flynn's 22 days. Colbert mocks the administration's handling of tariffs and their unintended consequences, such as McDonald's experiencing a 3.6% profit drop, the largest since the pandemic [03:00].
Notable Quote:
"Donald Trump has really done the impossible. He made an adult call her parents for help on a weekday. And it wasn't for the Netflix login." — Stephen Colbert [05:23]
Colbert also touches on bizarre current debates, including the viral question of whether 100 men could defeat a gorilla, blending humor with factual information about gorillas' physical prowess [08:00].
Stephen Colbert introduces Walton Goggins, highlighting his impressive body of work, including roles in Justified, Fallout, The White Lotus, and The Righteous Gemstones. Colbert praises Goggins' consistency and recent successes, setting the stage for a meaningful conversation [13:57].
Colbert and Goggins delve into Goggins' recent achievements. Goggins reflects on his journey, expressing gratitude and contentment with his career trajectory. He likens his steady growth to the seasons, emphasizing resilience and self-awareness.
Notable Quote:
"I've been around a long time and I'm able to look at all of this with joy and just gratitude. I mean, I know who I am. I'm very, very, very comfortable with who I am." — Walton Goggins [15:54]
Goggins opens up about his past, mentioning his time in drug rehab and how it shaped his present self. He contrasts his younger self with his current state, showcasing significant personal growth and stability.
Notable Quote:
"If you had been this Walton Goggins at 22, who would I be talking to right now? A guy that just got out of drug rehab in Columbus, Georgia, for sure." — Walton Goggins [16:38]
The conversation shifts to Goggins' roles in The White Lotus and The Righteous Gemstones. Goggins shares anecdotes from the sets, including humorous and candid moments that highlight his genuine personality and dedication to his craft.
Notable Quote:
"I never had any makeup. Like, no one ever touched me with makeup. The only thing they did do was put some dirt under my fingernails when I didn't already have some in there already." — Walton Goggins [18:29]
Goggins recounts a memorable photo shoot experience where he donned yellow Speedos and interacted with a painting class, culminating in a humorous encounter with a police officer who was a fan of his show The Shield. This story showcases his adventurous spirit and ability to find joy in spontaneous moments.
Notable Quote:
"I did. I got out, and I went across the lane of traffic, looking back at the camera, you know, and he was kind of taking pictures. I got to the other side. They had to keep going." — Walton Goggins [24:11]
As the interview wraps up, Goggins discusses his latest projects, including a snippet from the recording session of The Righteous Gemstones musical. He reflects on the creative process and his excitement for the series finale airing on HBO.
Notable Quote:
"All episodes now streaming on Paramount." — Walton Goggins [25:03]
Stephen Colbert concludes the episode by thanking Walton Goggins for his time and encouraging listeners to watch The Righteous Gemstones finale. Colbert also promotes additional content available on The Late Show YouTube channel.
Notable Quote:
"Walton Goggins, the hottest hairline in town." — Stephen Colbert [18:19]
Walton Goggins' Resilience: Goggins emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and gratitude in his career, highlighting his journey from personal challenges to professional success.
Humor and Authenticity: Both Colbert and Goggins use humor to discuss serious topics, making the conversation entertaining and relatable.
Insights into Acting: Goggins provides a behind-the-scenes look at his roles and the creative processes involved in his projects, offering valuable insights for aspiring actors and fans alike.
Stephen Colbert:
"Donald Trump has really done the impossible. He made an adult call her parents for help on a weekday. And it wasn't for the Netflix login." — [05:23]
Walton Goggins:
"I've been around a long time and I'm able to look at all of this with joy and just gratitude. I mean, I know who I am. I'm very, very, very comfortable with who I am." — [15:54]
Walton Goggins:
"If you had been this Walton Goggins at 22, who would I be talking to right now? A guy that just got out of drug rehab in Columbus, Georgia, for sure." — [16:38]
Walton Goggins:
"I never had any makeup. Like, no one ever touched me with makeup. The only thing they did do was put some dirt under my fingernails when I didn't already have some in there already." — [18:29]
Walton Goggins:
"I did. I got out, and I went across the lane of traffic, looking back at the camera, you know, and he was kind of taking pictures. I got to the other side. They had to keep going." — [24:11]
Stephen Colbert:
"Walton Goggins, the hottest hairline in town." — [18:19]
This episode of The Late Show Pod Show with Stephen Colbert offers a blend of humor, personal storytelling, and insightful discussion with Walton Goggins. Whether you're a fan of his work or interested in the dynamics of a successful acting career, this conversation provides both entertainment and inspiration.
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