Family Trips: JORMA TACCONE Wanted to Ride in a Limousine

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast Episode: Family Trips: JORMA TACCONE Wanted to Ride in a Limousine
Release Date: January 20, 2025

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1. Introduction to the Family Trips Podcast

The episode begins with Seth Meyers welcoming Jorma Taccone to discuss their joint project, Family Trips with the Myers Brothers. Seth humorously mentions delays in rescheduling due to unforeseen circumstances, setting a lighthearted tone for the conversation.

Notable Quote:
Seth Meyers [00:04]: "But the good news is Jorm and I did a podcast with my brother called Family Trips with the Myers Brothers. Did you enjoy your time with us?"

2. Reflections on Filming and Childhood Dynamics

Jorma shares anecdotes from their time filming Pop Star, highlighting the playful yet challenging dynamics between him and Andy Samberg. This segues into a discussion about their childhood in Berkeley, emphasizing Jorma's unique upbringing.

Notable Quote:
Jorma Taccone [01:04]: "We're doing a scene. Like, you can't give me notes with your eyes."

3. Parenting and Traveling with Kids

The conversation shifts to Seth’s experiences traveling with his children. He details the strategies his wife employs to keep the kids engaged during long flights, such as using modeling clay and loading audiobooks onto old phones. Seth candidly discusses the challenges of managing restless children on a plane.

Notable Quote:
Seth Meyers [02:02]: "The kids wanted the clay out before we took off... eventually about two hours in, we allow them to switch over to watching movies."

4. Jorma’s Bay Area Upbringing and Neighborhood Challenges

Jorma recounts growing up in Berkeley, highlighting the financial struggles and frequent robberies despite having little to steal. He humorously describes an incident where neighbors used their wheelbarrow to steal an amplifier, complete with a trail of diapers leading to their house.

Notable Quote:
Jorma Taccone [23:44]: "They used our own wheelbarrow to steal an amplifier... a trail of diapers leading to our neighbor's house."

5. The Memorable Hawaii Family Trip

Jorma delves into his significant family trip to Kauai, Hawaii, describing the unconventional accommodations in shacks made of driftwood and tarps. He contrasts his own apprehensions with his younger brother Asa’s excitement, painting a vivid picture of their contrasting experiences.

Notable Quote:
Jorma Taccone [35:18]: "We’re gonna go on vacation was the time that my... we’re going to Hawaii for the, like, spend some money."

6. Challenges and Eviction in Hawaii

The trip takes a tumultuous turn as federal agents arrive to evict the squatters, including Jorma’s godmother Sandra and her native Hawaiian husband Michael. Jorma narrates the chaos that ensued, including the destruction of their makeshift homes and the subsequent imprisonment of the evicted individuals.

Notable Quote:
Jorma Taccone [43:43]: "Four days into the trip... federal agents get out and they start tacking up eviction notices everywhere."

7. Jorma’s Early Life, Friendships, and Pranks

Jorma reminisces about his childhood friendships and early ventures into comedy, including prank calls where he and his friend Winston would leave chapters of John Steinbeck’s The Red Pony on answering machines. These stories illustrate his formative years and his knack for humor.

Notable Quote:
Jorma Taccone [71:08]: "We would call in our little voices... reading John Steinbeck's the Red Pony."

8. Family Dynamics and Modern Parenting

The discussion moves to modern parenting challenges, comparing Seth and Jorma’s approaches. They joke about navigating their children's preferences and the generational shifts in parenting styles, especially concerning discipline and indulgence.

Notable Quote:
Seth Meyers [30:12]: "I think the difference between me having three kids and you having none is I wouldn't have gone and checked on the fucking snail."

9. Closing Remarks and Future Projects

As the episode wraps up, Jorma and Seth discuss their upcoming projects, including new podcasts and creative endeavors. They share humorous exchanges about their families and express enthusiasm for future collaborations.

Notable Quote:
Jorma Taccone [83:40]: "Yamato Coney took a Hawaiian vacay? He was so disappointed when he saw where he'd stay it was a structure made of driftwood with a tub for a door... "

Conclusion

This episode offers an intimate glimpse into Jorma Taccone’s personal life, his upbringing in Berkeley, and a particularly challenging family trip to Hawaii. Seth Meyers facilitates a candid and humorous conversation that highlights the complexities of family dynamics, parenting, and the enduring bonds between brothers. Listeners gain a deeper understanding of Jorma’s background, his relationship with his family, and the experiences that have shaped his comedic voice.

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Transcript

[Seth Meyers]

Hey. Hey, it's Seth. And it's Jorma. Say hi, Jorma.

[Jorma Taccone]

Hi, Seth. Hello, everyone.

[Seth Meyers]

We are joining you here with a little bit of good news and a little bit of bad news. The bad news is we are still on hold, getting everybody back together as we are scrambling to deal with the horrifying fires in California and the people they have affected. We appreciate your patience while we wait to get the gang back together. But the good news is Jorm and I did a podcast with my brother called Family Trips with the Myers Brothers. Did you enjoy your time with us?

[Jorma Taccone]

I loved it, Seth. You guys are not just brothers on a podcast. You're brothers in real life, and you can tell there's a certain vibe that you guys give off. And my brother joined the podcast as well, in parts. So it was great.

[Seth Meyers]

It was lovely. I like that you used your brother as a sort of memory backer upper.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. He had different memories than I did, and I gotta say, I conflicted with some of his memories and his memories much happier than mine, so. But you gotta listen to the episode.

[Seth Meyers]

To see who's right, and it's kind of fun because this is a full episode where you and I talk, and not one time does Andy go, ugh. Yarm.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, absolutely. I gotta say, there were scenes that we shot in Pop Star where I'm in a scene with Andy and he's across from me. We're acting and I'm seeing him judge me. Just being like, no. I'm like, we're doing a scene. Like, you can't give me notes with your eyes. So anyway, yeah, it's nice to, like, let my freak flag fly finally.

[Seth Meyers]

And your childhood, let's be honest, was pretty much a giant freak flag.

[Jorma Taccone]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I grew up in Berkeley.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

In the B. You know what I mean? B town.

[Seth Meyers]

It's worth a listen. And thanks, everybody, for your patience. We're very excited to get back to more shorts, which I promise we will do again soon when it is safe and it is sound.

[Jorma Taccone]

All right, love you guys.

[Seth Meyers]

Love you. Hi, Pashi.

[Josh Meyers]

Hi, Sufi.

[Seth Meyers]

I have one last thing to talk about in regards to my spring break trip.

[Josh Meyers]

Oh, boy, you're really stretching spring breakout.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, it's a whole. It's a piece of it I haven't addressed yet.

[Josh Meyers]

And I guess in defense of the show and the way I usually get pretty crabby, this is.

[Seth Meyers]

I know.

[Josh Meyers]

Family vacation that you took.

[Seth Meyers]

I can't believe you're giving me grief for talking about a family trip. Well, the next thing, if you Were like, come on man, you gotta have some memories of SNL from 04.

[Josh Meyers]

No, that's. That ain't happening.

[Seth Meyers]

So anyway, flight home. First of all, flight there. Flight home. Alexi's such a hero. She really believes. And it was a five hour flight. She really believes the kids can do activities the whole flight. She gets them modeling clay. She gets some sticker books. She gets amazes. She gets. There's three different kinds of crayons. It's incredible what she does. But with that said, kids just burn through that shit. Yeah. I mean the kids wanted the clay out before we took off. And you know, again, we're leaving from a New York airport. We were like 15th in line to take off. By the time we're in the air, the modeling clay is dried. It's like rock hard. So eventually about two hours in, we allow them to switch over to watching movies. Uh huh. You know, again. And they get very excited about watching a movie on the back of a seat on a plane. Right.

[Josh Meyers]

They all have their own headphones. I'm guessing.

[Seth Meyers]

They all have their own headphones.

[Jorma Taccone]

Okay.

[Seth Meyers]

Another thing we're doing a lot of is we're loading up old phones of mine that are now defunct with books on tape. And so the kids are actually. The boys at least will listen to Harry Potter and enjoy. That's great. Also, Ash is only allowed to watch the Harry Potter movie after he has read the book. Or had it read to him in this case.

[Josh Meyers]

Right, Yeah, I was going to throw some quotes around. Read the book.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. I saw in your eyes some quotes were coming. So I thought I'd, I'd jump in front of that one. But flight home, posh. Here's what happens on the flight home. I got Addie on one side of me, I got Ash on the other dude in front of me. It's like a three and three, Right. So I'm looking sort of kitty corner guy who's technically in front of Ash, you know what he's watching in the back of his seat. I don't even know why I'm making you guess. Raiders of the Lost Ark. Ooh, now I'm watching it again. Not the right way to watch Raiders. One seat up with the sound off is not the way to watch it. But it's so good. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to watch Raiders and Ash because Ash is watching something and Addie's sort of just looking at the map. You know, she's, she's too young. She doesn't know that that's not a movie. So she's just looking at.

[Josh Meyers]

She must love that part in Raiders where it's just the map.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, right, you're right. There's a lot of that. Raiders.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And I watch Raiders the Lost Ark on the plane. And man, oh man, that movie holds up. It's so good.

[Josh Meyers]

So good.

[Seth Meyers]

It's so good. But then a few times, you know, there's some gnarly moments in Raiders and I look over and Ash, who again is watching his own movie, is just locked eyes locked in on Raiders. Just locked in on the. Maybe the. Some of the gnarliest moments of Raiders. And I, you know what? I made a decision to just look at him and give him a nod like, yeah, yeah. This is in your future, bud.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Movies like this are in your future. Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

I remember when we were little. Little when we were living in Michigan, we had a babysitter, Joe. Do you remember Joe?

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

But I remember he was watching Deer Hunter.

[Seth Meyers]

Yes.

[Josh Meyers]

And if. And it was like just on tv, but if we were living in Michigan, I was five or under and I remember seeing some Deer Hunter stuff I shouldn't have seen and Def didn't want to see at that time.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. That Russian roulette scene in Deer Hunter.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm remembering now. I've definitely first saw with a babysitter.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

It's funny because I think there's a lot about how hard it is to be a modern kid, but the fact that we had babysitters who would just come over and be like, let's see what's on.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

And also they had like, there's three things on.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

I'm gonna watch the coolest one of them also.

[Seth Meyers]

Right at 8 o'clock at night. None of the three things were kid friendly.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

It wasn't. Like, go over to the old Netflix account.

[Jorma Taccone]

Do you.

[Josh Meyers]

Back to Harry Potter real quick. Now that Ash is listening to professional audiobook readers of Harry Potter, is he less impressed with your reading?

[Seth Meyers]

Thank you for asking. I think he's still impressed. I think I'm not going quite fast enough for him anymore. I think the only downside of this, you know, back and forth or trade off, I should say we've done with him, is now he's just. He's just charging through the books. I think he's staying up too late. We let him have it in bed too. I think he's just. I will. I'm basing this on the fact that like five times last week I went in and he had fallen Asleep with his headphones on. So he's definitely just trying to like, grind through it so that he can hold up the phone. And he came in very late the other night to be like, I just finished book five. Can you download book six? I'm like, go to bed. Oh, wait, I think I told you this, but not on the podcast.

[Josh Meyers]

You.

[Seth Meyers]

We've talked about the fact that you had a moment that Ash just had. You had a moment where you told everybody you were into Holstein cows, and then for like three years, everybody bought you cow stuff, and then you had to make basically announce that you'd made a mistake and you don't like cows. So, yeah, Ash just had this with legos. He just, you know, had his eighth birthday. He got so many Legos, including from you.

[Josh Meyers]

You say Legos.

[Seth Meyers]

I know because I. I've decided I don't care about people who don't like it that way. Lego. He got some lego.

[Josh Meyers]

Now you sound dumb.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, right. If I'd have done it. The only way to do LEGO is this way. You get it wrong, someone corrects you and then you say it. Otherwise people would hate me. I'm not gonna be the guy who walks around is like, lego. You had a few of those where you would do the foreign pronunciation of stuff.

[Josh Meyers]

Did I?

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. I'll try to remember. I don't know, but I'll remember anyhow.

[Josh Meyers]

All right, so Ash getting too many lego.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, we told Ness. And I'm remembering we had to tell you because you got him lego, you got him a box.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah, well, I found out when I was on a FaceTime with you three days after his birthday, and he drag asses into the kitchen and he's like, thanks for my gift, Uncle Pashi. Someone else is gonna get me the same thing.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. And then on top of it, which, by the way, that didn't happen, he didn't get the same thing. But he did get so many Harry Potter LEGO that Harry Potter's lego. He got so many of them. And he had a real breakdown because it was that thing that happens to a kid. They ask for a bunch of stuff in the time it takes for them to come. He decides he doesn't like that stuff anymore. And I went into the other room. He was sitting in our little playroom. TV room. It's a room with a tv and we never watch tv, so it's basically the kids playroom. And he was just sitting with a big box of Legos. Of Legos bricks. He had a big box of LEGO in his Lap. And he just was staring at this beautiful box of Harry Potter Lego. And I just heard him saying, who likes Lego? Not me. To himself.

[Josh Meyers]

Do you think I went to a kid's second birthday?

[Seth Meyers]

You knew the parents? No. Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

And there were a bunch of people going to this party. And I know, you know, this little girl, she's got plenty of toys, and you feel like you need to bring a gift, but at the same time, I was like, do you? And I feel like I need to buy something, you know, for my nephews and niece. And certainly our uncles would have done that. But where's all this stuff go?

[Jorma Taccone]

Oh, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Like, I mean, trust me.

[Josh Meyers]

How many Lego sets did he get? I think part of the problem is everyone feels like, oh, we need to buy him something.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, we're backlogged.

[Josh Meyers]

Doesn't need anything.

[Seth Meyers]

By the way, did our uncles get us presents?

[Josh Meyers]

Uncle Kurt would show up with stuff.

[Seth Meyers]

In my head right now. I know what Uncle Kurt showed up with for our birthdays.

[Josh Meyers]

Scratch tickets.

[Seth Meyers]

Scratch. Like 10 scratch tickets he got from the liquor store he worked at.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Maybe a thing of pretzels.

[Josh Meyers]

I mean, it's all pretty good. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

As I think about it, it's all pretty exciting. It's also probably better than a box of Legos for mom and dad, because everything was immediately garbage. It didn't just, like, build up.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. Maybe that's the move.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. Scratchers.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. Talking about reading slow. We have a snail population at our. At my building in la.

[Seth Meyers]

Okay.

[Josh Meyers]

And when it rains a little bit, these snails will come out, and it's very exciting. Mackenzie and I really like the snails.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, that's good. I was. I was wondering if. Well, the very fact that you called it a population instead of an infestation was pro snail.

[Josh Meyers]

It's just like. There's just, like, a couple come out when it rains, and there's, like, these little drains. And Mackenzie the other day sent me a video or a picture of this, like, snail trail, and the snail had ended up just on top of this drain. But in that day, it was very sunny and everything dried up, and I walked past this drain, and the snail was just done dead center on the drain. And I was like, oh, this dude didn't make it. Like, there was. He couldn't get away. And it got too hot out here, and we, you know, Mackenzie gets, you know, sad if she sees a crushed snail. If I ever step on a snail, very, you know, feel terrible. So this snail was on this grate, and I took some water down. I Poured it on him, and he wasn't moving. And I was like, it's not going to happen for this guy. And then later on, I went down, and he had moved, but it was still hot out, and he was running out of water, so I got him some more water. And I got this little, like. It's like a knife, but it's like a thing that you move chopped vegetables from the cutting board into the pan. It's like this big flat thing. And I laid that down, put a little. Some little celery greens on it. And he crept up on there, and I moved him to a new place. But the whole procedure took a long time.

[Seth Meyers]

I was going to say, I think the difference between me having three kids and you having none is I wouldn't have gone and checked on the fucking snail.

[Josh Meyers]

But I walked by the snail. When I'd taken the dogs outside, I walked by the snail, and I'm like this. I'm just. Either I'm watching this thing die, or I'm gonna save this thing. And then it happened again the other day. So I like. And I'll just, like, bring a book out there now. And I have to wait for the snail to climb up on this.

[Seth Meyers]

Now, wait. Wait a second. If it happened again, isn't there a chance the snail's like, oh, finally made it back. Geez Louise.

[Josh Meyers]

I think it's gotta be a different snail. Cause I walked that first snail a long way away from where he ended up.

[Seth Meyers]

Interesting. Okay.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

So multiple. This is happening to multiple. Well, do. I do think. I don't know if we should just keep doing updates on this podcast about that or start a second one with just the snail. The snail cast.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

You're a good man.

[Josh Meyers]

And I know snails can be invasive, and they're not. They're not always. You know, people aren't always psyched to see snails showing up, but I am.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean, I think. Look, there's a. You know, some people aren't psyched, and some people are like you and MacKenzie and totally insane. Honey. Honey, come outside. The snails are back. The snails?

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. It's very exciting. Debbie, our dog, she always loves the snails. She's. We'll always give it a little sniff. Move on.

[Seth Meyers]

Great.

[Josh Meyers]

They're our friends. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

All right, well, for those of you who are still with us, we have our. Our friend Yoramotechoni is joining us, and it's a lovely conversation. He has an incred. His upbringing is fantastic, and a really good story coming your way. But first, Jeff Tweedy Family trips with the Miles brothers.

[Jorma Taccone]

Family trips with the mother's brothers. Here we go. Oh, here.

[Seth Meyers]

Wow. There he is. Is that deep.

[Josh Meyers]

You got those deep pipes.

[Seth Meyers]

He does have deeper pipes than he appears when you first meet him.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

For such a short guy.

[Josh Meyers]

All right.

[Seth Meyers]

You said it, not me. You know what pops into my head every time I see your full name printed?

[Jorma Taccone]

What is it that my. I put myself in quotes.

[Seth Meyers]

No, no, no. I just think, do you like your Mattaconi?

[Jorma Taccone]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I don't know why, but that's always been the way it works for me.

[Josh Meyers]

I don't even know what that's a.

[Seth Meyers]

Reference to the Pina Colada song.

[Josh Meyers]

Oh, I see.

[Jorma Taccone]

Okay.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh. The minute I do a parody song, Josh is in the woods.

[Jorma Taccone]

You know what's really funny is that recently, because I've had this experience too, but my having my brother say it was somehow more insulting. But he was like, he. Recently. Asa was like, yeah. Sometimes I just think about your name and I just laugh. I'm like, what? Like. But it is such a weird name. Like, whenever I've met anybody who has a similar, like, yohas or like, just any Y sounding. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Up front, I will say Jormitaconi is a fantastic name. Also, it's interesting that Asa would take that position because I feel like that is in the. The same ballpark of name, but it's biblical.

[Jorma Taccone]

It's like Old Testament biblical. Right. So, like, you're more like.

[Seth Meyers]

I would just say both of you. His name is Asa.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

You're J O, R M A. Both of them. I feel like you have to tell people how to pronounce it.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes. Because Asa, somehow.

[Seth Meyers]

Yes.

[Jorma Taccone]

Did I tell you the funniest one I ever got when somebody.

[Seth Meyers]

What was the best?

[Jorma Taccone]

Because. And this was also. It was also funny because they weren't trying to be insulting, but the guy was like, I'm sorry, urine. I was like, urine. No, my parents didn't name me urine.

[Josh Meyers]

But you're named after some, like a kickass guitar player.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, yeah. Macau Conan from the Jeff Zara, Jefferson Airplane, and like, Hot Tickets. And I met him and I. I did. I did tell.

[Seth Meyers]

Because this should be. Because I feel like when you're named. When your parents name you after a kick ass guitarist, there's two paths. One, your dad just loves a band, but this is the better version. Your dad knew him. He was a friend.

[Jorma Taccone]

No, no, no, no, no, no. My dad just loved the band.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, God. I thought they were friends. Oh, so it's the Worst version.

[Jorma Taccone]

I met him because I. Because I went and saw him at McCabe's guitar store in Pico.

[Seth Meyers]

Vil was just like, this guy shreds.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, 100%. I don't even know if he liked the name. I think he was just like, yeah, Shred. That's cool.

[Seth Meyers]

He was like, we're naming him. He didn't know the name first. He said to your mom, whoever this guy is, that's what the boy's name is going to be. He's got like, I got bad news.

[Jorma Taccone]

I looked it up.

[Seth Meyers]

It's bad news. It's urine. And she's like, I don't think you say it that way. And he's like, okay, close enough.

[Josh Meyers]

Better. Getting better.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, I think he saw him at Woodstock or something. I don't know.

[Seth Meyers]

And what is. Was AC's name? Just. Just the bib Straight Biblical.

[Jorma Taccone]

There was a. There was a guy named. Who we just always referred to as Big Asa in Berkeley. Who. Who. He was a family friend, kind of. And so he was. I think he was 11 or something. He was a couple years older than me. And actually, Big Asa sold me my first car, too, which was a 1977 Plymouth Volare that he described as doja green inside now, which is a very Bay Area term for weed something. So.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, doa. So we. You bought a weed green Valare?

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, it was pretty cool. Had dents running up and down the sides.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean, so Jorma.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes.

[Seth Meyers]

Is from the Bay Area, and along with Andy Samberg and Akiva Shaffer. And every detail I ever hear about growing up in the Bay Area makes me happier and also is illustrative of the way you guys all turned out.

[Jorma Taccone]

This. This story that I'm going to tell you guys is very, very Bay Area, too. Like, very Bay Area.

[Seth Meyers]

Like, I was thinking about, basically, you kind of are. You've taken a different approach. I feel like you're showing up with one trip that you want to talk.

[Jorma Taccone]

There's one trip that is a long. It has different facets, and we can talk about family trips in general, but we didn't take a lot of them growing up, so. So we can talk about whatever you guys want. I'm perfectly. This is a very BAE parent, like my parents. And, like, both me. Like, me and my brother were talking about this, and we were just like, oh, my God, this.

[Seth Meyers]

All right, so I'm going to let. Josh is going to maybe lay down some tracks. We get to your one massive trip. Great.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. Well, I mean, just sort of set the scene. Your brother's how much younger than you?

[Jorma Taccone]

My brother's four and a half years younger than me.

[Josh Meyers]

Okay.

[Seth Meyers]

Were you psyched? That's old enough to know if you're psyched you're having a younger brother. Were you psyched that another one was.

[Jorma Taccone]

Coming in a very Bay Area way? I was at my brother's birth, which was at home. There's a picture of me and my. My best friend Ari. Like, just like Macaulay Culkining. Just like, watching it happen. Happened. Like, oh, God, what is this? And then my parents saved his placenta in our refrigerator, so it was in our freezer for, like, a year because they forgot about it. So whenever I would try to go get ice cream or anything, I'd look up there and be like, well, that piece of meat there is for mom.

[Josh Meyers]

What was the goal of keeping it. What was sort of the. The end game if it hadn't just been forgotten after a year?

[Jorma Taccone]

I think that they were. Their intention was that they were going to eat it.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, that was my fear about freezer was definitely.

[Josh Meyers]

And then, like, some freezer burn. You're like, wait for the. Right.

[Jorma Taccone]

You wait for July 4th. Or, you know, they're waiting for it, but, yeah, freezer burn. And then they planted it under a tree.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

My Alexi has become more B area with each successive birth of our children. Because the third, Addie was a home birth.

[Jorma Taccone]

Wait, which one was in the lobby with, like.

[Seth Meyers]

Because that's second. The boy? Yeah, the second one was in the lobby, which was.

[Jorma Taccone]

She was.

[Seth Meyers]

She was trying to have a New York birth. And then her women parts were like, no, we are. We are of the bay.

[Jorma Taccone]

I mean, that's the coolest home birth story ever.

[Seth Meyers]

I feel like we maybe saved the first placenta and had the same situation of, like, there's no. In the end, we're not gonna actually do anything with it. But what I was getting at was the kids. It was the. The home birth happened at night or else. I bet the boys would have been. I don't know. I don't know if they would have watched or not, but I think they would have been nearby.

[Jorma Taccone]

What time did it happen?

[Seth Meyers]

Like, 11 o'clock at night. It was the best because they went to bed. It was very much Shoemaker's elves. They went to bed and woke up and somebody else had made a baby that was just there.

[Jorma Taccone]

I honestly thought you were talking about Michael Shoemaker for a second.

[Seth Meyers]

That's the problem with having a shoemaker. Having a real shoemaker in My life named Michael.

[Josh Meyers]

And your parents are both very creative people professionally? Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes. My dad is an artistic director of theater. He's a theater director and is. And my mom was a graphic designer for many, many years and is now sort of retired. She's retired, but he attempted to retire and hasn't.

[Seth Meyers]

Gotcha. And they've managed to make this work with normal names like Troy and Sue Ellen.

[Jorma Taccone]

What's funny is that my wife is named Marielle, and then we named our kid. I wanted to name our son Wiley and then name our last child like Bob, because I just wanted everyone to have a good name.

[Seth Meyers]

Bob Taccone is definitely a guy with, like, a used car place on Long Island.

[Jorma Taccone]

It probably exists. Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

He sells rolls of quarters. You're like, I need rolls of cars. I got a 20, and I just need rolls. Go see Bob Deconi. He's got.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

So, yeah, tell us about this trip. What's a creative Bay Area family?

[Seth Meyers]

Well, before. Yeah. So before you tell us about the trip, what was like, sort of a baseline trip?

[Jorma Taccone]

Well, I did research, you know, which I think most people do, because you're like, oh, am I remembering these?

[Josh Meyers]

Not everyone does it. Yormo. And let me say we appreciate it.

[Jorma Taccone]

Okay.

[Seth Meyers]

Some people do so little research that about five minutes in, they say, oh, so it's about family trends, really. So you're massively, massively ahead of the game.

[Jorma Taccone]

Those people are doing better than me. I think the better you're doing in your career, the less research you're doing.

[Seth Meyers]

You do at the podcast you're about to appear on.

[Josh Meyers]

They're not doing better in Larry Meyer's eyes, I'll tell you that.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, that's true. My dad is very down on people who don't do the work.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes. Well, honestly, like, I was trying to remember the trips beyond going to visit grandparents, because most of our trips financially growing up, we were not doing well at all. Certainly I grew up in Berkeley, as you said. We lived in a pretty crappy neighborhood in Berkeley, so we got robbed a lot, which was really funny because we didn't have. We had nothing to rob. And there's some really good stories there, but this isn't about that.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, I do want to take a pause because it's almost too interesting to just pass over. When you got robbed, were you always away from home? When you got robbed, were you.

[Jorma Taccone]

No. There's a couple. Couple stories where I remember someone trying to break in through the one window that didn't have the electrical alarm tape with this crazy Alarm that was like a school bell alarm. So it was the loudest thing you've ever heard. But if you broke a window and it had the gray tape, then it would shatter the tape and then it would trigger this alarm. And the one window that only had iron bars on it was being broken into. So I remember seeing a guy trying to get into the. And then one of the funnier times when we were robbed, we were robbed by our neighbors.

[Seth Meyers]

By the way, it speaks to how many times you get robbed if you have a funny one.

[Jorma Taccone]

There's a couple funny ones. There's a couple funny ones. This one was. Was that they used our. Our own wheelbarrow to steal a amplifier. And like all of a sudden, like, you know, old school stereo equipment that we had. But they covered up. It seemed like they had covered up the stereo equipment in the wheelbarrow with diapers. And so there was a trail of diapers leading to our neighbor's house. That was a funny one. And then another one was we did take a trip, a family trip, and we came back and the alarm had been going off for like 12 hours. Oh. So every. So all of the people in the name. Nobody cared that we got robbed. At that point, everyone's just like, turn off. The fire department had tried to be there. Nobody could turn it off. And. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Anyway, so now what is the order of things? Because if the neighbors stole your stereo equipment. Second, I feel like they're. Now it's a justifiable theft if they had to go through 12 hours of the school bell alarm.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, that's true. You mean like if it had been going off and then they were like, you know what, it's already going on, right?

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. Just steal shit. I think that's fair, I hope. Yeah, I do hope.

[Seth Meyers]

Did you ever. I mean, I'm assuming you confront the neighbors when you realize they've left a diaper trail.

[Jorma Taccone]

There was another moment that I was telling my dad about this because I don't think he had ever heard that story. Like, there's. I mean, it's sad. We were living in a pretty crappy area. But no, there was a moment that I was walking to the corner store to get. I was really obsessed with now and laters and I was talking to. Getting an hour and later to the corner store and. And our neighbor. This isn't that funny because I'm like seven or whatever, how old ever I was. But like. But our neighbor threatened to kill me with a. With a kitchen. With a kitchen knife. And the thing I Remember most about it was that I think it was our kitchen knife.

[Seth Meyers]

Jeez Louise.

[Jorma Taccone]

It was a serrated kitchen knife that I was like, oh, that's, I think that's our knife. Like this is what I remember about it. And I just sort of went, walked around him into the street and walked to the corner store.

[Josh Meyers]

Was this your next door neighbor or.

[Jorma Taccone]

No, we didn't confront anyone. It is funny.

[Seth Meyers]

I like that. Yeah. In your seven year old, it's like, I'm going to kill you. It's like, well, I'm afraid the tables are turned because you've just revealed yourself to be a thief.

[Jorma Taccone]

A thief.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm afraid your attempted murder will have.

[Jorma Taccone]

To take the back seat because you're in trouble, mister. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

You columboed your own assailant.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. No, there was a lot of that growing up. It was, it was just like a. And the, the weirder part was we had, I never experienced this before anywhere, but there was a mobile police station on our block. They had a bus that they parked there on our, on our block. Because it was so, so bad growing up. There's, I don't know, I mean it's, it's no longer like this sort of thing. But yeah, that was, it was pretty intense. So. So regardless, we didn't take that many family trips because we just didn't have that much money.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, it also, it seems like, yeah, when you leave, people take your things and your neighbors hate you, then you.

[Josh Meyers]

Need to buy more things. So any money you have goes back into replacing televisions, amplifiers, kitchen knives.

[Seth Meyers]

The cost, it was an exponential cost for you to go on vacation. The least of it was how expensive the vacation was.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, yeah, we still, yeah, we left our doors open.

[Josh Meyers]

Where did your grandparents live? Were they close by or so.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, my grandmother lived in Stanford, Connecticut so that we would go out to the east Coast a lot. And I remember like those were great trips because like we got, obviously got pampered because we, my grandmother didn't get to see us as much. And then also my other grandparents lived in Irving, Texas, so very hot. But I loved visiting them. So we did that a lot. And then we went camping and things like that. But it wasn't, we didn't have that many trips overall. I was like, but those were my big memories.

[Josh Meyers]

What were the activities of note when you went to your grandparents, like the Connecticut or Texas?

[Jorma Taccone]

My grandmother in Connecticut, she's a very feisty Puerto Rican woman who, she taught Spanish for years, but she was like, had more energy. I think you Maybe. Seth, you must have met her at something.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, yeah. Was she at the wedding?

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes. Yeah, absolutely. And then she, like. I'm sure she came to the show, like. But yeah, she had so much energy. And so she would wake us up at, like, six in the morning singing, like, Spanish song, like, get up, get up.

[Seth Meyers]

We gotta go.

[Jorma Taccone]

We gotta go play. It was like, ah. And I was always obsessed with. With vacation. I was like, this is vacation. Like, just the word vacation was so frustrating being like, it's not. You don't get up at six to play tennis. But, yeah, she was just. She was obsessed.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

Ball of fire.

[Seth Meyers]

That's great. It is funny. I feel like it's dawning on my kids now that they can use the idea of vacation as a way to have the same complaints they always have. You know, they always want ice cream and then all of a sudden we're on vacation.

[Jorma Taccone]

It's vacation.

[Seth Meyers]

Shut up. You always want this.

[Jorma Taccone]

It's a good argument. I always like when your kids have pretty good arguments. And my kid now is starting to really know. So, like, where he. If it's educational, he's, like, using educational now. It's education, but I'll learn.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

And that's why you need this Pokemon pack.

[Josh Meyers]

How old your son now?

[Jorma Taccone]

He's nine. All right.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. Figuring it out. And in Texas with. With those grandparents, was it, like, were you in a city? Were they out in the countryside? What's.

[Jorma Taccone]

No, Irving, It's. It was. It's, like, really suburban. Like, a lot of track housing, a lot of, like, cul de sacs. It was always so hot. I just remember, like, as a kid, like, being really excited to use the. You know, like, the first time when you get a hose and it's the hose with, like, the nozzle, and you're like, I'm a fireman, and I'm very excited about being a. So Texas, to me, was like, the place where I got to shoot the house with a hose.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. Because you thought maybe it was going to catch on fire with how hot it was.

[Jorma Taccone]

It's possible nowadays. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

It's so nice to hear you actually dial into that memory. Because, of course, I remember the first time you did it, and I feel like I forget when my kids are doing it, that there's just no way to get through to them. Because this summer they were just blasting our house with a hose. And I was like, stop it. And I was telling them to stop. And they couldn't. They physically couldn't stop it.

[Jorma Taccone]

Worth it also, because you're feeling like the kick of the, like the hose has power in the way that you've seen like a firefighter, like, whoa, this thing.

[Seth Meyers]

And they were just like, they were spraying different surfaces. They're like, ah, I'm gonna shoot wood, I'm gonna shoot glass. Then it's like, I'm just gonna blast it into the ground till it turns into mud. Like they just were. Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

So I got one of those like power washers. Cause I was recently to clean the deck. And this is really fun because you can. It's probably. This is not a good idea for just saying this out loud in public. So I think. But I was shooting my kid with the power washer and he like it. Blah. It has so much water. You like your instantaneously. Grinch. He like, he loved it. That was. I like any activity. That's like a parent activity. But you're having a pretty good time.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Yes.

[Josh Meyers]

When our father used to be in charge of baths with us, he sort of took a much heavier handed approach. And he would just have like a bucket and he would call us dirt ball number one and number two. And we'd get like. He would just pour the bucket over our heads and you just get like deluged. And then he'd like scrub shampoo. And then he'd go like, dirt ball number one and he'd like pound you with a bucket. And it was like, it was efficient and it was aggressive and it was fun.

[Jorma Taccone]

Oh, my God. I'm sure he was having a great time. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And you 100% knew when it was the times he gave you a bath, like how it was gonna go.

[Jorma Taccone]

So this was last night. There was a bunch of kids who came over after they were doing their little Pokemon thing and they all got Nerf guns and like, come outside, be the dad. We need a dad. Because they just only abused death. And so I was like, well, if I'm doing this, I'm really doing it. So I got this leaf blower. I got this huge leaf blower and an umbrella and just walked outside, clicked the umbrella. So that's my shield. And then just shooting kids with this leaf blower for like half an hour.

[Seth Meyers]

God, that's good times. I'm going to steal that. I think both of those are.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I think watching a dad come outside with an umbrella and a leaf blower is as exciting as seeing Bane in Batman for the first time.

[Jorma Taccone]

What a beautiful voice.

[Seth Meyers]

Support for the Lonely island and Seth Meyers podcast comes from Airbnb. Hi, Yorm.

[Jorma Taccone]

Hi, Seth.

[Seth Meyers]

They've asked us to put this ad in our own voice. So that's really exciting for me because you have one of my favorite voices.

[Jorma Taccone]

Oh, thanks for noticing, Seth.

[Seth Meyers]

And you know what? I feel like if you and I were on a vacation together, here is what I would very much like to do.

[Jorma Taccone]

Okay.

[Seth Meyers]

I would want to be near that voice, but not, like, share a bedroom with that voice.

[Jorma Taccone]

That makes sense.

[Seth Meyers]

I would want to, like, convene in a kitchen, maybe make a coffee, knowing that you would come out of your separate bedroom and we could kind of hang out, you know?

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes. The only thing about that, Seth, is that in the mornings, I sound like this. Seth, do you want to have some toffee like that? So it would be different.

[Seth Meyers]

The point is, I don't want to talk to a guy like that in a hotel lobby or even at a hotel restaurant. I want to talk to a guy with both that really good voice and then that terrible morning voice.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

In an Airbnb kitchen. And this is one of the nice things that Airbnb Vacation provides when you're with friends. Nice common areas to hang out in, but also separate spaces we can return to.

[Jorma Taccone]

Far away from each other.

[Seth Meyers]

You realize that a little goes a long way with Jormus voice. And at some point you're like, well, I'm back to my room where the door is going to be closed.

[Jorma Taccone]

Thanks to Airbnb.

[Seth Meyers]

Support comes from Rocket Money. Hey, Yorm, Rocket Money.

[Jorma Taccone]

Hi, Seth.

[Seth Meyers]

I should have let you do it. That was really good. Do it again.

[Jorma Taccone]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, that's happened to me. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

So you get a Rocket Money account, and all of a sudden it's like, hey, man, do you really want this German expressionist streamer? You really want to pay 40 marks a month for this?

[Jorma Taccone]

You know my search history?

[Seth Meyers]

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[Jorma Taccone]

Thank you.

[Seth Meyers]

It'll even try to negotiate lower bills for you. And that's certainly going to go better than you Yorma being on the phone with somebody. I've heard you try to argue your bills down. In the end, you end up paying double. They're so sick of you.

[Jorma Taccone]

I end up apologizing to them, and I just want it out.

[Seth Meyers]

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[Jorma Taccone]

Can you imagine that there are people that have saved $740 a year? That's so many apps that they didn't need. That's crazy.

[Seth Meyers]

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[Jorma Taccone]

Rocket Money. Oh, well, that's your money getting saved. Here we go.

[Josh Meyers]

All right, so your big trip. The big famous.

[Asa Taccone]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

Trip.

[Jorma Taccone]

Okay, so, because we didn't ever get to do anything. And like, I was again, obsessed with, like, the word vacation. Like, we're gonna go on vacation was the time that my. I was 12 years old, my brother, so my. I was. I think I was like 12 and a half, 13. So I'm angsty too. Like, I'm just like. In addition to being obsessed with, like, this is my big vacation. We're going to Hawaii for the, like, spend some money. Like, wow, we're going to Hawaii. And my brother's eight, so we. And we're going to visit my. My godmother, who is a woman named Sandra who sadly has passed away, but she married a native Hawaiian man.

[Seth Meyers]

So.

[Jorma Taccone]

But like, so we're gonna go visit them on Kauai. So I'm so excited. And just to give you some context of how I've been disappointed in the past by my parents, I remember we had this super shitty Volkswagen Bug that was like every. Every friend or was a different color. It was super dented. It was super embarrassing. Like, like, that was our family car. And I remember when I was in third grade, I was obsessed with, as every kid was Lamborghinis and limos. Was the other car that I was like, you can drive a lim. I just thought you could drive a limo. And that was. Was like the coolest car thing. So as I'm running to, like, my dad picks me up. I'm like, did you. Did you bring a link? I don't know what I was thinking. Did you bring a limo?

[Seth Meyers]

Did you bring a limousine?

[Jorma Taccone]

He was like, yeah, because He's a dad. Like. Like that's exactly what I would have said. Like, yeah, I brought a limo. And then running outside to see this fucking embarrassment. Like, oh, no, no, I hate this fucking car. This. But this felt like this to me. To me, because again, I'm 13. But we go. So when we show up to my godmother's, what I thought was a house she had been squatting on, she was. Okay, let me give you some context also. Like, my, my parents are very political, liberal minded. Like, you know, my mom worked for a socialist newspaper and she meets Sandra. They're selling little Red books together, which is Mao's like Dr. Whatever. Like, so. So, you know, they're communists.

[Seth Meyers]

It is for real. They are the stereotype of what every Republican thinks. A normal Democrat.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes.

[Seth Meyers]

My parents are like, they were no exaggeration. What like Jim Jordan thinks I am.

[Jorma Taccone]

My mom worked for a newspaper called Frontline, which is like the front line of the proletariat will rise up again. Like Karl Marx. It was all just like Marxists, basically. But to be fair, they're also like, it's a lot of intellectuals and like they're reading everything. They're like, they're not like hippie, like silly, like 60s, like, it's all very political. And so my, my godmother is one of these people and she, she married a native Hawaiian man named Michael. And so there was a lot of education on this trip. So like, so we. But we pull into this area that we're going to be staying and they, they've been squatting on the beach, basically. There's no place to say it's, it's drift. And when I'm not exaggerating with Davis, it was like a shanty town basically. So it was probably 10 different shacks kind of. But they're made out of like driftwood and tarps that they had found from the sea in some cases. But they had. Then it's weirder than that though, because then they're furnished inside. There's no doors, there's just flaps with tarps and like, it's like a unhoused person's like, like squatting area, something. But it's called Anahola beach park. And. But they have electricity. So there's like refrigerators and stuff in there and people have television. They're stealing electricity from the electrical poles and like running them to the things to get electricity. But so there's electricity and there's like an outdoor beach because it was meant to be like a public area. So there's an outdoor, like, shower and stuff like that. And so the beach is beautiful. But for me, like, showing up to our Hawaiian vacation to be like, sorry, where are we staying? We're staying in this shack.

[Seth Meyers]

Like, the best is the thinking. Thinking it was a limo was you being insane. But now the tables have turned.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes. And the. Yes. And then we're staying in this. From my remembrance, me and Asa stay in the shack and then across the road, because let's back it up politically, because this is all true. It's like, you know, Hawaii was basically stolen by, you know, like, Liliokalani was a queen. They had, like, 50 treaties with, like, every country in the world, basically, that, like. And then the United States came in and basically a policeman was shot. And Lili Kalani just was like, okay, I don't want this to go to war. And then all of Hawaii was now American. And so I can't remember when they became a state or whatever, but, like. But there were laws made that were basically, like, in trying to make things right, they were supposed to give land back to native Hawaiians. So that was sort of like, you know, Michael and a lot of people were like, we're waiting for our land, but, like, none's been deeded to us. Or, like, it takes a really long time to actually get that land. So. So in the interim, across the street from these shacks is this house that they've been building, and Sandra has taken all of her inheritance from her mom and put it into this house, and they spent, like, $35,000. It was. Saying it was a house is a little weird. It was like a plywood house, basically. So none of it's been furnished or whatever, but they're working on it forever. And it does have electricity, but. So my parents stay in there, and then me and my brother stay on the beach in this house. But there's. There's flying cockroaches. And, like, I mean, just. There was. Just. For me, I was like, this is a nightmare. This is like, Brother had a great time. Like, in fact, like, I. I have audio of my brother talking about this, which I can. I can play real quick. Let me see if this works.

[Asa Taccone]

It was like camping. My dad said it was a quote scene. And then I asked him to describe what he meant by that, and he said it was just like, you know, I think they partied pretty hard, but it was really fun for me. I mean, I was eight. I was just in it. I befriended a local Hawaiian boy named Koko. I spent most of my days with him. And the mornings I would wake up, we'd go out on his makeshift canoe and catch fish in the coral reef for my mom's friends so they could have for their breakfast. And we just hung out with all these local Hawaiian kids. We ended up going to, like a luau for a celebration of a baby that was born in the community. And my mom used to be a sign painter, so she painted this big sign for them. And we went to a natural water slide, which was these two massive rocks that were kind of edged together and there was this slick moss in the middle.

[Jorma Taccone]

Okay, that's all true.

[Seth Meyers]

This is the best definition of the ages 8 and 12. Yeah, I think that's the best example.

[Jorma Taccone]

He was loving it.

[Seth Meyers]

Like, 8, still sees the wonder in the world. And like, I made a local friend, whereas you're like, where's my limo?

[Jorma Taccone]

The kids are also younger too, so he had like, more options with hanging out with people. And we did, like, we had an amazing time. I mean, like, like, for. I was telling my dad, like, I was like, he's like, you remember that beach? I was like, yeah, like, we found that riptide. And then me and my brother would like, duck our heads under and follow the riptide in and see how long our breath would last as you got pulled under. Oh, man, that was like, super. And then obviously the waterfall, it's. I mean, it's super, like amazingly beautiful. But there's, you know, like, there's a lot of like, vets who were a part of this community. And like, it was, it was just like this. Yes. Again, I was just like, oh, what is this? Like, what are we doing? And then the thing that my brother mentioned there, the sign that was made, like, my mom painted the sign. The reason that that sign was made was that four days, this is a six day trip. Four days into the trip about, we wake up in the morning and about 30 police cars are pulling in. And they're federal agents. So all these federal agents get out and they start tacking up eviction notices everywhere, like, on everything, every structure, every car, every. Like, on the, on the house that they. My. My godmother had built. And so it becomes this huge. It's like, you're gonna get evicted. It's like two days after we're leaving, they're coming in and they're gonna clear everybody out and evict everybody. And so again, for me, I was like, what is happening.

[Seth Meyers]

On this vacation?

[Jorma Taccone]

And so then my mom gets into, like, activist mode and she like, paints this huge. They got this big piece of plywood, and she paints this beautiful mural to make it look more official. When they come in and people start.

[Seth Meyers]

People.

[Jorma Taccone]

And then people start coming out of the woodworks like hippies from I don't know where who are just activists come, like, show up and start making documentaries.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. I imagine it's like, it's local news maybe covering something like this.

[Jorma Taccone]

I don't know, like, you know, as a government, like. So I don't know how much they wanted to be involved, but, like. But, like. But the woman named. I remember this woman named Smokey Rain showed up with her boyfriend, and she was like, they were making a documentary. I was like. And so my mom makes this big, beautiful sign that they put in front to make it look more official before. And then they did a big lubow and the radio station came. They did have, like, local. We're like, on everybody's side.

[Seth Meyers]

That is really a funny. And I do think that documentaries are incredible tools for societal change. But it is a really funny hippie thing. When shit's going bad to be like, don't worry, we're gonna come make it.

[Jorma Taccone]

We'll be there.

[Seth Meyers]

You're like, we're getting evicted in two days.

[Jorma Taccone]

Smokey's. Smokey's on the next plane over.

[Josh Meyers]

Smokey, rain's coming. Smokey, don't worry.

[Seth Meyers]

I think with editing, we might have it done in, like, 18, 19 months.

[Josh Meyers]

Also, what was the name of the sort of native Hawaiian guy that your godmother was married to?

[Jorma Taccone]

Michael.

[Josh Meyers]

It got pretty good. Sort of cheated out of the cool name contest in terms of.

[Seth Meyers]

It's like every time a kid in the Bay Area gets a yorma, a guy in Hawaii has to get a Michael.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. I mean. Yeah. I mean, we visited them since this all happened. And Michael was a big part of our family for a long time. He would drink a lot, though. And I remember one of the things, because we were in, we were all staying together was that he would sort of pass out and he would snore and then me. And it was so regular that me and my brother would, like, beatbox to it and we would go.

[Seth Meyers]

I do picture that while Michael's snoring. The flaps on the shanty are, like.

[Jorma Taccone]

Blowing out very well.

[Seth Meyers]

That's when the cockroaches are getting in.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. Disturbing the chickens that were running around. But then to complete that, like, they got evicted right after we left. Everyone got evicted. Everything got torn down with bulldozers. Her house got torn down. And then My godmother and six other people were in jail for nine months after that. Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

So the documentary in the end maybe didn't help.

[Jorma Taccone]

It didn't. I don't think. Well, you know what they became known as like the Anahola Beach Park 7 or something. So maybe. Maybe it did, you know. And then she ran for mayor after that, too. Ran for mayor of Kauai.

[Seth Meyers]

Was the plywood house that they were building, was that evicted as well or was that more legal?

[Jorma Taccone]

That got torn. That was the saddest because then we watched the documentary. It was like I was only at. By the way, I was like only like a half an hour documentary. But that was. Seeing that was like, just like. So. Because they. Because they got a quick claim deed, which I don't really understand the mechanics of that, but it's like basically like you. If you go down and you say like, hey, we're on this. This thing and we've been here for a while and. And again, like, he was on the list as a native Hawaiian man to. To be able to get this land. So he. He should have been able to get it.

[Josh Meyers]

It just.

[Jorma Taccone]

It takes years to do and apparently you can't like, just claim whatever land you want.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

And then eventually they were. They were actually given like a bunch of acres and we went. Me and. Oh, that's me and my wife. The first trip we went to, we visited them and it was great.

[Seth Meyers]

Did you really, when you guys. Before you were married?

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, it was like right when the Lonely island started. Like. Like right after we got graduated, I was already dating Mari and Annie and Keefe came down to LA and I had already had this trip planned. So they were looking out, like going to look for houses in la. And I went to Hawaii and visited Sandra and Michael again.

[Seth Meyers]

And did you. Did you make multiple trips over your life or. Or.

[Jorma Taccone]

I haven't. Just those two. Three. Three times, I think. Yeah, I think it was three.

[Seth Meyers]

That was great.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. But the first one was the most memorable.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, yeah, obviously.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I like a couple things from Aces that I want to go back to. The natural waterfall. Did you have a memory of that?

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, that was. It's amazing. Especially like, because you are with local people who are like, oh, no, no, go to this one sort of thing. And it did take like forever to like hike into the. You know, I mean, and Kauai is stunningly beautiful. I mean, it's like. It is Jurassic Park.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. We used to go to. There was like a natural water slide thing in New Hampshire called Diana's Baths that we would go to. And it was freezing, but it was also these, like, very smooth rocks. It wasn't so mossy. It was just smooth rocks. And so fun as a kid. And I remember going back maybe as a teenager or like mid-20s, and then there were all these signs that say, like, don't swim here. This is like drinking water or whatever. But I don't know if we were not allowed to be there when we were there, sort of taking those rides, but. But you're definitely not allowed to now, or not supposed to, at least.

[Jorma Taccone]

It's so cool. Like, Hawaii has so many. I actually went on vacation with me, Mari, Akiva and Liz went to Hawaii and found another. I can't remember what island we were on, but we. We found another one of those deep woods. Like, you know, you had to like, a mile in, and then you hike forever, and then there's this huge open area of this, like, this, like, almost like this lake. And then you have to go, like, through the lake and then up a rope ladder up this waterfall. And like, and then, like, in the back, there's this amazing. It was great. And it was really great to watch Akiva do that too. That was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

[Seth Meyers]

This is real. This is a tangent, but you'll see where it got inspired from. We're talking about swimming and drinking water. Was it during the pandemic that you started making weird nursery like fables?

[Jorma Taccone]

Oh, Derek stories.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, Derek stories.

[Jorma Taccone]

It was during the pandemic, yes. Yeah, it was.

[Seth Meyers]

So Yorm reached out to me and said he was. Yeah, you sent me a Derek story. You're like, hey, this is probably.

[Jorma Taccone]

You know anybody with kids. I was like, do your kids think this is funny?

[Seth Meyers]

But Derek was sort of like an Aesop Y type dude.

[Jorma Taccone]

Right? They're Aesop's fables. These are on Spotify. It's on all streaming podcasts. They're like two minute long stories. They're basically Aesop's fables that get interrupted by a guy named Derek and then changes the moral.

[Josh Meyers]

And they're called Derek stories.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. So the downriver one was. Was it someone.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, you really listened to them.

[Seth Meyers]

What was the downriver one? Just. I mean, there. It's only two minutes long. Go listen to Derek's story. But just in your best. Yoram give us just for Josh real quick. How did Derek ruin this?

[Jorma Taccone]

So the Aesop's fable is that there's a lamb that's bathing in A river. And then up from there, there's a wolf trying to come up with an excuse to eat the lamb. To like, basically be like, hey, how dare you drink from the water that I'm bathing in. He's like, oh, no. If the water is. Is soiled, it cannot be for me because it runs down from you to me. And it's basically like he's going to eat him anyway sort of thing. He's not going to get like, a villain is always going to be a villain, was their moral. But in, in this version, as he's trying to, like, poke at the lamb, then Derek's like, oh, no, that's me, actually. I'm up here just ringing out the old dungarees here. What? He's like, yeah, I must have had a bad jalapeno or something. Just ripped in the inside of my pants. He's very Carmen, because it's just the insides of my pants are just coated pockets to pockets.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, there you go. One of the things, Yorm and Andy Samberg, who were two thirds of the lonely island, I think one of the things you probably connected on early in life was a love of diarrhea as a punchline to a joke.

[Jorma Taccone]

It's, it's still a punchline. Constantly. There's a, there's something that we're working on right now that involves diarrhea.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, I, I've heard it. Yeah, I've heard it.

[Jorma Taccone]

Have you played it for your kids? Because it's popular. My, my, my, my Wiley's friends cannot get enough. I literally had a conversation where he was like, I can't hear this again. Like, it's not out yet.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, you can't go find it. You, You've got your two kids. Do they travel well?

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes. And then it goes. I don't know if this is like this for you, you guys, but like, but it goes, it goes back and forth like, like, he was great for, like. I mean, the Wiley was on a plane at like eight weeks to Berlin. So we were like, ah, he's settled. And then, you know, just recently, like, we went to London recently and it was like, like, oh, man. He was, he's. He was super anxious about the whole thing. I don't know what it was, but.

[Seth Meyers]

Like, yeah, how was the, how was he with the jet lag and, like, settling down when he got there?

[Jorma Taccone]

There? I mean, it was okay. Like, we were trying to keep them on a New York schedule because it was five days. But then every day it's like, very consistently, it's like one hour has chipped away and then by the end I was like, no, this is perfect. Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

How long of a trip total to London? Yeah. Was that like you were going to be there for a while or that was.

[Jorma Taccone]

Oh yeah, it was just the right amount to like be problematic on the back. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, we like to do it like that as long as it's very.

[Seth Meyers]

Problematic and they've had to move around. Your wife Mari, who I've been lucky to know for a very long time, is much like you, an accomplished film director. So you guys have moved around your kids not as like on trips, but hey, we live in Pittsburgh now because yeah, she's directing a movie about Mr. Rogers. So does Wiley. Do you feel like as a kid he thinks of that as a trip?

[Jorma Taccone]

I don't know. We had to live in, in Berlin as well for a little while because Mario was doing the Queen's Gambit out there. So like. So we were there for the same amount of time. It was basically like four and a half months. So it's always been that it's crossed over into his school year. So it's a little bit beyond a trip because then you're also going to school there. So he's gone to school in Pittsburgh and Berlin and LA recently and yeah, so it's like he's had to. It's like the summer plus two months or something like that. So we. I don't know what he thinks of it as like it's actually another like, like now I'm creating my own family trips and, and the. I think maybe the best trip that because I make a lot of dad decisions of like this will be fine. And when it was just Wiley because there's a pretty big gap. He's nine, our daughter's three. But when we were in Berlin I decided to take him. Mari had to go to London for a second. This sounds very hoity toy. We're like jet setting. But she has to be in London for the weekend. And I was like, I'm gonna go to this place that these stuntman guys. When I was working on Kung Fury, the movie, I met all these German stunt people who were like, you gotta go to this place called Tropical Islands and you should look this up. But there's a place called Tropical islands. It's about 45 minutes outside of Berlin and it's in the most massive old like Soviet era. It's going east. Soviet era zeppelin factory. So it's the biggest like Twinkie, like concrete looking Twinkie. You've ever seen in your life. Like, just so unbelievably massive. And they created a water park in it. So. Wow. So I was like, I'll bring my. Then like 4 year old to Tropical alone. Like, I'll just bring him there. So I drive to tropical islands and then, you know, it's a theme. It's a what? It's amazing. Like, there's like a jungle inside and you can take a hot air balloon ride inside the thing and we go there and then I just proceed to feed him nothing but like fries and candy for like six hours. I'm just like, yeah, this is great.

[Josh Meyers]

It's vacation.

[Jorma Taccone]

It's fine.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

And then. And then getting home, I mean, just like. And then. And then wondering why he's like melting down. Just like screaming at me and like, yeah, it's a good.

[Josh Meyers]

Well, we saw you. We were in Pittsburgh and cross paths and I want to say grab lunch or something like that, but you've had a couple occasions to sort of be a dad in a new place where, I mean, I know that you're always working as well, but when Mari's shooting something, you might end up as like, now I'm a dad in Berlin with a kid, or now I'm a dad in Pittsburgh. And you've had to sort of adapt to those different cities. And you seem to really be enjoying it when you were in Pittsburgh in terms of like, oh, it's a whole new world of stuff.

[Jorma Taccone]

We're a good couple for that sort of thing. Like, when Mari's like. Because Mari, I think when deciding to do the Queen's Gambit, she was also like, who's gonna watch this show about chess? Like, really? Like, come on. I was like, well, yeah, but you should do. You should do it. Like we like, yeah. So, yeah, like, I'm. I'm definitely a good partner for that sort of thing. I'm just like, this will be fine. Like, whether it's like. Or like just like being overly optimistic. That's kind of what I mean by like, dad decisions. I think that, like, those are like, you know, like, I was just talking to Avi the other day, like, and he was like, should I go, like, after we were going to. This is Kristen's. Kristen Wiig's husband. Like, but. But Avi was like. Was like, in addition to going through this, like, ninja trampoline park that we were at, he was like, I think may I'll go to the Natural History Museum. Yeah. Yeah, man. Push it. Get him some candy.

[Seth Meyers]

God love Him.

[Josh Meyers]

When you touch down in a Berlin or out of Pittsburgh, do you just start sort of, you know, googling or reaching out to figure, like, what are good things to do with a kid here? Like, what are my.

[Jorma Taccone]

I like to like, sort of either drive around or run around, like. Like, and just sort of figure out things based on that. So much I like. And then there's. There were. There were things that I would immediately do in places where like, somehow I always end up like as like a skate. Skate shop kind of thing. Like, so in Berlin. Well, Berlin.

[Seth Meyers]

I like it. It's like somehow. I guess maybe it's because I Google where's best skate shop.

[Jorma Taccone]

It might have been that. But like, no, I bought a skateboard there and I would skate at this, like this, this park near where his school was. But that was also when we were writing the MacGruber series. So it was particularly weird because I would. I met these. It's just meeting random people. Honestly, like, I just have no shame in like, what's up, man? So there was a production company that was right near where, like three doors down from where we were staying in Prinz Lauberg, and I met these guys and I was like, oh, there's like a film production coming. I was like, hey, when are you guys done? Because I'm writing with people in Los Angeles and they come in at like 10 in the morning. So if you're done at like 6:30, if I could get in here at 7, I could just write all night while you're not here. And so that's what. Every night I would write from like 7pm to like sometimes 5 in the morning. Then I would drive. Then I would go back to bed as long as I could. Then I would drive Wiley to school. Then I would go to the skate park to try to make myself tired. Then I would go back to bed.

[Seth Meyers]

I like the Germans. Germans think an American skater. Their stereotype now is they just do it to fall asleep.

[Jorma Taccone]

Well, when you're my age. And I, by the way, I don't skate much anymore because I have this. I know you can't see this scar, but like, the last time I really tried was a. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I will say that the kind of dad you are who's like, let's just go to the place the German stuntmen recommended. It does. Like, because another thing in Aces that really made me laugh was when he asked your dad where you were going in Hawaii. Your dad was like, it's like kind of a scene that's such A funny.

[Jorma Taccone]

They party.

[Josh Meyers]

They party pretty hard.

[Seth Meyers]

They party pretty hard. That's such a funny thing for a dad to tell an 8 year old.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, the other crazy thing in researching this with my parents was that both of them, their response when I was like, yeah, I was disappointed. They were both, they're. Both of their responses was like, wow. Like they just, they, they had no idea.

[Seth Meyers]

I will say, I'm gonna guess based on your parents and based on, on their philosophy about the world. They also would probably be like, yeah, sorry your, my friends got evicted. I'm sorry you had a bad.

[Jorma Taccone]

That was my mom. That was. It wasn't so much that it was. My mom was like, you know what? You learned something. And this is not wrong. I just don't know if I would like, you know, call it a vacation.

[Seth Meyers]

I would say you did a grandparents move when you were calling it a dad move, but like bringing a kid to a water park and just feeding them sugar for like six hours.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, yeah, that's fair.

[Seth Meyers]

Like, because, you know, because I feel like grandparents sort of feel like they have this like diplomatic immunity of like, hey man, what they do in my six hours.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes, I'm above the law. It's always different when you don't. When there's no one to hand off.

[Seth Meyers]

That child to what my. I remember the first time, I think the first time our oldest had ice cream was with my father in law, who's the best dude in the world. But he came home and Alexi was like, did you give him ice cream? And he went, he liked it. And I said, we didn't think he wouldn't like it. Like we weren't holding. I was just laughing. First of all, I was very pro. The idea of like, that's exactly how we should get ice cream for the first time is on the sly with his grandpa. Like, so I got no problem. But it was so I was like, your defense stinks.

[Jorma Taccone]

I just like it when, when parents now, when it shifts a little bit where they're kind of in the kid position of like, oh, but no, but I didn't mean, you know, like, like we did that with my mom a lot too. Like, like pandemic. Because we were out there in the bay for the birth of my daughter. And it was the same. Granted, it was pandemic time. So we had some rules that we were supposed to follow. And then occasionally my mom would just be like, it was like, you couldn't go in a store. And then we'd come back and yeah, she'd brought him to go get ice cream. And you were like, it's a store. It's still a storage. Well, you know what? And you're like, the dynamic has shifted here.

[Josh Meyers]

You also wonder how much the kid is sort of pushing that, being like, grandma, please, Grandma, please. Then it's like, well, I'm not gonna. I can make his dreams come true in these moments. Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

Were your parents. Were they big on. Were they okay with sweets? Yeah, they were.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I think we had probably. No exaggeration, I would say we ate 10 times more sweets than my kids.

[Jorma Taccone]

Oh, easily.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. Maybe higher.

[Josh Meyers]

Your kids eat sweets that aren't sweets. Like, they get tricked.

[Seth Meyers]

I have a joke in my standup, which is their cookie is what we used to have to eat to get a cookie. Like, that's how healthy their cookies are.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. See, that's.

[Seth Meyers]

It was like, if you finish this weird, like, smash dates shaped into a circle.

[Jorma Taccone]

See that. That was my upbringing, like, because we had, like, Caribbean.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, yeah, that's. I remember Sandberg said the same thing. But you Berkeley kids were like, wait, no, no.

[Jorma Taccone]

There was a moment where me and my friend snuck a bottle of vitamin C. We ate an entire bottle of vitamin C. And I calculated, and I was like, oh, we ate 50,000 times our daylight allowment and just peed like electricity neon. Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. Like, I'll go to Seth's house, and, like, my nephew Ash will be like, oh, do you want an ice cream, Uncle Pashi? And I'll be like, sure. And he'll go to the fridge, and Alexa will be like, it's not ice cream. It's. It's something else.

[Jorma Taccone]

That's weird.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

Like, do you want these? Do you want a cookie? And she's like, it's not a cookie.

[Seth Meyers]

But I'll be sure it's like, it. They all have the, like, the texture of an old coin. Like, that's how hard it is to fight through one of the.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, you're looking in the right places. Then that's really hippie dippy. Because it's like, it. I felt like all that got better. Like, back in the 70s, it was. Which I can say.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, I will say that's like. I mean, like, well, Josh is. You know, Josh is a vegan. And. And even in just, like, the last few years, like, hasn't, like, the. The food tastes so much better. Your options taste better.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, way better. Way better.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. Also, last time I was with Seth and his family, the kids got these little, like, parfait. Desserts. And it was like this fake chocolate thing with some fruit and whipped cream. And they were like, where's this whipped cream from? And Alexi had to be like, I made it. And they were like, oh. She's like, yeah, I made the mistake of one time giving them like ready whip. And now if I like make them like, whoa, there's a whole world of homemade whipped cream. They're like, this is garbage.

[Seth Meyers]

First time. But then it's. By the way, the first time Ash had a real hot chocolate because no other options we'd taken. We were in New Mexico where Lexi lives. We'd taken this gondola up. Oh, you've, you know, you shot McGr there, you know, but like that crazy gondola that goes to the top of this. And again you get up there and it's like this little chalet and it's. Ash is with his cousin and so they shared a. Literally shared a hot chocolate that was a real one. And then he threw up and we had to like give him an hour long bath. We had to cancel dinner reservations because it's like, wow, we can't have a hot chocolate. We're not sure he's going to make it.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah, he's going to be a real joy when he goes off to college. Yeah, Ash has to go lay on the bathroom floor again.

[Seth Meyers]

He's back with the nurse. Yeah, that's like Ash's frat house. Like we had to hold his hair back while he puked up. M and M's.

[Jorma Taccone]

Support for the Lonely island comes from Thrive market, right, Seth?

[Seth Meyers]

100% right, Yoram? And let me tell you something. We get a Thrive box once a week and I'm over the moon because I know that my wife Alexi, you've met her, you were at our A wedding.

[Jorma Taccone]

I was.

[Seth Meyers]

She cares very deeply about the food that we put inside our children. She cares a little bit less deeply about the food she puts inside of me. But once I know it's healthy, then I feel very safe. And you know, nothing makes me feel more like a man than when I sneak into our pantry late at night and have a healthy turkey jerky that has been purchased via Thrive Market. Just very quietly eating food that was meant for my children.

[Jorma Taccone]

That I did it this morning, Seth.

[Seth Meyers]

Uh huh.

[Jorma Taccone]

With Thrive and it was on the way to school. It was handed to me to give to my four year old daughter. Ate it all myself.

[Seth Meyers]

Here's a feature I can't live without Yarn. The Healthy Swap Scanner and the Thrive Market App. Here's how it works. You scan a product you're used to buying, and it instantly recommends cleaner, healthier alternatives. For my family, this has been a game changer. We made some fantastic swaps. Instead of sugar pack snacks, we're stocking up on brands like Simple Mills Crackers, Annie's Mac and Cheese Chomps, Beef sticks. Those are the ones I'm eating in the pantry. If you do it quietly, it doesn't actually make a chomp, so nobody knows you're in there.

[Jorma Taccone]

Okay, good life hack.

[Seth Meyers]

Are you ready for a junk free start to 2025 yorm?

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes. Seth, thank you. Absolutely. 100.

[Seth Meyers]

You know what? You appreciate me more than the other two guys. Head to thrivemarket.com island and get 30 off your first order, plus a free $60 gift. That's Thrive T H R I V market.com Island. Thrive market.com Island. A lovely trip I took. And again, a lot of times I speak and almost, like, try to legally defend myself against Josh, calling it out as not a family trip. But when your family began, I went on a trip to your wedding, and it was fantastic. It was in Big Sur.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. Correct. Carmel very close.

[Seth Meyers]

Carmel close. But it was a really lovely. And also, like, everything there was a real nice, wavy gravy vibe to the whole.

[Jorma Taccone]

Oh, was there? Deal. No. From your perspective. That's.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

Nice to hear.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. I mean, there were. I feel like there were a lot of, like, there were like, people where, like, yoga was a profession.

[Jorma Taccone]

Oh, well, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

That said, you know what I mean? Like, there was. It was like comedy slash.

[Jorma Taccone]

No, that. Okay.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

Really set the tone because the. The woman who married us is a yoga instructor, is our friend who we went on yoga retreat with. So that really set that tone. And then later was on K. And.

[Seth Meyers]

I think it was the first time I was somewhere, and God correct me if I'm wrong, she maybe started by making us thank the people who. The land. Does that sound right?

[Josh Meyers]

The land Acknowledgment.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes.

[Seth Meyers]

And I think it was the first time I heard a land acknowledgement outline.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. Yeah, I think that that is right. And it's also like, that's always a fun one because you ask your friend to do it and then you're like, oh, that's what you're gonna say. Like, this is a big surprise to me as it was to you.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, I was. But it was great. And the other thing this is now I'm, you know, treading on dangerous ground because it's a little bit of an snl story. So I'll make it quick, Josh, but I will say, I think the Peyton Manning show where Forte did that dancing scene where he was a basketball coach, had happened the previous year because it was a summer wedding. And then this woman, like, an older woman, said to Will, like, that. I love that so much. And then Will just did the full dance. He just, like. It was that thing where when you compliment Forte, you. And like, I felt like halfway through it, I was worried the woman was gonna be like, uh huh. No, no, I remember it.

[Jorma Taccone]

It was during the wedding. He did this.

[Seth Meyers]

No, no, no. It was like, at the hotel.

[Jorma Taccone]

Okay, Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, but it was one of those really fun. I mean, those weddings. And there were a few of them. Mine was right at the tail end of it. But, like, it was like that was that. It felt like an SNL wedding. It was a lot of fun.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, it really was. And, Josh, I'm sorry I didn't invite you. We were. You know.

[Josh Meyers]

That's okay. If it's more SNL stuff, I'm glad I'm done.

[Jorma Taccone]

I get it.

[Seth Meyers]

This was awesome. Do you have. Was that all we had from Asa? Because the one thing I want to say is how much I enjoy Asa's voice.

[Jorma Taccone]

I love. I love my brother's voice. He's fantastic. In fact, we just did a thing for this Knuckles Sonic the Hedgehog spin off show that he did all the music for, and he plays the voice of this demon. So when you see episode four, that's my brother, he did do one more. That was about. It's about a fight that I had with my dad that I don't remember. That was on the church.

[Seth Meyers]

Let's hear it.

[Josh Meyers]

Okay.

[Jorma Taccone]

All right.

[Asa Taccone]

My mom said that my brother and my dad got into it and that it got physical. I guess Yorm, like, punched my dad or something. I told this to my dad. He was like, I have no recollection of that. But he said that, like, some months prior, Yoram had graduated 8th grade. And after the graduation ceremony, he disappeared with his friend Winston for, like, five hours. And my parents were, like, losing their shit, freaking out. And when he came home, he was just like, I'm not going on the Hawaii trip. Nobody understands me. Only Winston understands me. That was the quote that my dad remembered. And he said, like, oh, shit. Like, this is how it's about to be when we're out in Hawaii. Like, it's just gonna be an uphill battle for Yorm, not for me. I was chilling.

[Jorma Taccone]

So aren't you glad I played that?

[Seth Meyers]

I'm so glad. Do you. Now is Winston. Do you have. Do you remember Winston?

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. Well, okay. Winston, my friend Winston Ross and a guy named Mark Shotland. I was really. I was very good pals with right before I met Akiva. I met Akiva when I was 12 years old. So, yeah. So I met those guys and we were in. It was the first comedy rap that I was ever involved in. We were in a group called Strike 3 because we had each struck out with ladies.

[Seth Meyers]

Super cool.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. So we would write raps about. I guess it wasn't comedy. It was comedy. Rap from an outside perspective for us was just emotional rap, you know?

[Seth Meyers]

Right, right. You didn't think Strike Three was funny. You were like, we're showing you our full hearts.

[Jorma Taccone]

But me and. But me and Winston did some pretty good. We had some pretty good pranks, though. We did. We did a lot of prank calling because you could do that back in the day. Yeah. So our big. The one I was the most proud of because I was like, this is a really weird joke for 2, 212 year olds to come up with. We would call in our little voices, we would call people's houses and we would find an answering machine and then we would read. We'd fill up their answering machine by reading John Steinbeck's the Red Pony. We just keep calling back and be like, where was I? Chapter two. That's a fucking weird joke. Just think about our little 12 year old voices being like, chapter two.

[Josh Meyers]

And that's how Audible started.

[Seth Meyers]

That's how audible started. Bay Area. That's when Bay Area became a tech hub.

[Josh Meyers]

Somebody was like, this is amazing. I'm listening to the Red.

[Jorma Taccone]

I did listen to it to go to bed.

[Seth Meyers]

The best one that I get, Higgins does to me. Steve Higgins, SNL producer Yorm and I know. First time McConaughey hosted, he told a story in his monologue and Higgin said, you should practice it and record it, like. And so McConaughey recorded this long story about his dad. And then like every three years I'll get a voicemail and it's just like, hey. And then I remember my dad's. And I'm like, what is this? And I'm like, oh, fucking Higgins just literally finds it and then plays it.

[Jorma Taccone]

Into just like, Those are the best jokes to me. Those are the best jokes. With the advent of AI, this is in the same vein. I'm just like, I wanted to find old emails that I hadn't responded to. And then Have AI write a book as a response. Like, be like, write 300 pages on how sorry I am that I didn't, and then send that years later. Like, dear Seth, I'm so sorry I missed. Just like, why did I miss it in the first place?

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

I looked around my place for the sweatshirt you said you left over here. I just can't seem to find it anywhere.

[Seth Meyers]

Do you. Looking back, do you think it's true that Winston was the only one who understood you?

[Jorma Taccone]

Maybe. It's. It's possible. I mean, it's.

[Seth Meyers]

You know, it must be a funny thing when people become teens, when kids become teens, that you actually then start commiserating with the younger kid about. Like, look out for this one. Like, all of a sudden an 8 year old is more rational. Because it does feel like. I know we're hearing Asa's perspective as an adult really, from those two short messages.

[Jorma Taccone]

This was always the dynamic, though, Seth. Asa was always cooler than me. Like, Asa. Okay, just to give some context, first of all, my brother's in a band called Electric Cast. He's. He's a very talented music producer.

[Seth Meyers]

He's an incredible.

[Jorma Taccone]

So he's a cool lead singer of a band.

[Seth Meyers]

Always been cool. As when. The first time I met AJ Asa, I. Because I will say, all jokes aside, I thought you were cool.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

When you showed up at snl.

[Jorma Taccone]

I'm totally fine.

[Seth Meyers]

I didn't. I do not think you're a nerd. Anyway. When your brother showed up, I thought you were the biggest fucking nerd in the world. I was like, oh, next to Asa.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. Asa's like me from Concentrate. Like, everything's, like, sharper, smaller, like, more compact. He's cooler. Like, he. He had a competition with himself where he was trying to see how many, like, winter balls and, like, proms he could go to in the Bay Area. I think he went to 13 or something like that. I met a girl. Two girls introduced themselves to me on the same day. To me, his brother, as their girlfriend. Like, is this my boyfriend? I was like, oh, really? I just. Because I just met somebody and you.

[Josh Meyers]

Were like, I'm in strike three.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, exactly. So to get back to that, so I used to record myself on audio cassette. And when. When I was rejected, it was a real. This was real painful. When I was. When I got my strike, I recorded a lot of myself. And, you know, and she just. She didn't like me, I guess. You know, like, it was like a lot of that. Like 10 minutes of that. And then years later, my Brother found this tape, and he was like. He was like, dude, I found this tape of this girl, like, crying about something. I was like, that's not a girl.

[Seth Meyers]

That's me.

[Jorma Taccone]

I was like, yeah, this is perfect.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean, I was hopeful that he had remixed it, that he had used his multitude of music skills to make.

[Jorma Taccone]

We only had that to go out on.

[Seth Meyers]

I know.

[Jorma Taccone]

And here it is.

[Seth Meyers]

What a delight. Thank you to both you and Asa for the work you put into this. But before you go, Posh has some questions.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes.

[Josh Meyers]

All right, here we go. Yoram, you can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational?

[Jorma Taccone]

I think it's adventurous. All right.

[Josh Meyers]

What's your favorite means of transportation? Train, plane, automobile, boat, bike, Your own two feet? Something else.

[Jorma Taccone]

I'm a real Joe Biden. I do like train.

[Seth Meyers]

All right. I feel like train. A lot of people train.

[Jorma Taccone]

Well, that's the romantic answer. Like, if I'm probably. Because it's like, oh, it's a fast plane.

[Seth Meyers]

It's a romantic answer. But I think if we had. It's also a good reminder if we had better trains in this country. I think a lot of people are right there ready on the lot, ready to take them.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, fictional or real, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with?

[Jorma Taccone]

Oh, alive or dead? Like, so are people mostly choosing, like, historical figures?

[Josh Meyers]

I mean, some. Some are, like, you know, friends or other, you know, celebrity families or.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, it probably be like. Like, it's hard not to like, Macho Man's fam. Family.

[Josh Meyers]

You know, Randy, Macho Man Savage.

[Jorma Taccone]

Like, Macho Man, Randy Savage's family. And I would hope it would be, like, somewhere in Florida.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

By the way, just a little shout out. Macho man released a rap album, and it's called Be a Man Hulk. It's a diss album to Hulk Hogan. If you have not heard it, it's one of the best things you've ever heard. It's really well produced. And he says, because he doesn't want to, like, alienate fans, he says, kick you in the butt a lot. You like, kick in the butt? Like, it's. It's great.

[Seth Meyers]

And you can tell he's like, I'm glad you said, if you haven't heard it. For all the listeners who were like, I heard that, dude. Oh, okay.

[Jorma Taccone]

I don't know how. How nerdy comedy fans, your audiences, I assume.

[Seth Meyers]

I think that's a wrestling and rap fans I don't even know if that's.

[Jorma Taccone]

It's comedy, actually.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

It's.

[Josh Meyers]

If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be?

[Jorma Taccone]

Asa. Coolest guy ever.

[Seth Meyers]

Asa great. Yeah. No, I mean, that's. That'd be my pick.

[Josh Meyers]

And Berkeley, your hometown is Berkeley?

[Jorma Taccone]

Indeed.

[Josh Meyers]

Would you recommend Berkeley as a vacation destination?

[Jorma Taccone]

No. As kids, we were like. We thought it was, like, an urban hub, and I was like, this is, like, the coolest. Berkeley's, like, hardcore. And then as soon as I moved away, I was like, oh, I lived in a. Like, a quaint college town with cafes.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah, but that sounds. Could be lovely. I've actually never been to Berkeley.

[Jorma Taccone]

I would.

[Josh Meyers]

I'd like to. I'd like to see Berkeley.

[Seth Meyers]

I went and did a show there once, and one of you guys told me, sent me to a very good burrito place.

[Jorma Taccone]

Gordo Burritos. I. I'll pronounce it correctly, even though everyone says it with an S sort of thing, but. Gordo. Yeah, that's. And, in fact, there was a moment at snl, Andy was, like, having an animated discussion with Billy Joe Joe from Green Day. And I walked up, and I was like, you guys talking about Gordo? And they're like, yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

And then Seth has our final questions.

[Seth Meyers]

Have you ever been to the Grand Canyon?

[Jorma Taccone]

No.

[Seth Meyers]

Would you want to go?

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. Are you inviting.

[Seth Meyers]

No.

[Jorma Taccone]

Okay.

[Seth Meyers]

We just. Josh and I. Josh has barely been, and I haven't been, and Josh really wants to do it, and I really don't.

[Jorma Taccone]

Why don't you want to? That's.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean, I probably will.

[Jorma Taccone]

Isn't it, like, one of the seven wonders of the world or something?

[Seth Meyers]

It's like, there's no way of knowing.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah, don't. Don't. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I would not go look into that, but I just. I just feel like. I think it's a seven. Yeah, I do. It's the wonder why people go there. Was that fast enough?

[Jorma Taccone]

Sick. Burn.

[Seth Meyers]

Was that fast enough?

[Jorma Taccone]

Burn. And then I don't know if I was it.

[Seth Meyers]

Can we take the air out? So it's like, right after. And you're. This is very exciting, and hopefully Josh won't be deeply jealous. Myself, Andy Samberg and Akiva Shaffer have a new podcast that just came out about the Lonely island, about all the famous Lonely island songs and. As well as the ones that are unfamous and the ones that are infamous.

[Jorma Taccone]

I hope Josh is jealous about this, because I'm really excited about it, and I want to cut into your family time.

[Josh Meyers]

I'm not jealous. I'm very excited. I mean, there are songs that you guys have that will stick in my head that I jog very often to your music to, like, complete albums of yours. I think it's great. Yeah. I've always been a fan, and that's.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

[Jorma Taccone]

Which to tell me, just to prove it, what song have you jogged to.

[Josh Meyers]

That whole album that the Michael Bolton.

[Jorma Taccone]

Track is on so badly worn, you'd be like, poodle hat.

[Josh Meyers]

No, it's turtleneck and chain. I want to say. Is it that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

That's a good. All right. You proved I love it. He proved it.

[Josh Meyers]

And then very often, if I'm, like, about to leave the house and I can't find my wallet and my keys or, like, once I have everything, I'll go, okay, I'm reloaded. And then I leave.

[Jorma Taccone]

Oh, my God. It's amazing to me that, like, he really did just love doing that impression. I think that's how it came about of him being like, well, I can do Scarface. You are a surprising.

[Josh Meyers]

It's made its way into my everyday.

[Jorma Taccone]

And then there was a song that we did called Trouble on Dookie island, and we wanted to have a Scarface sample on it because it was like a crime story, like, Wu Tang style crime story. And we were like, wait, how much is that? Every time you use the sample, it's $10,000. Then we were like, we know a guy. We called up Michael. Like, you need to do this sample for us. There's Scarface guy.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, it's really funny. And also, Josh is going to enjoy it because I think Josh will have less of an issue with SNL stories being on. On a podcast that is specifically about SNL stories.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah. Maybe you'll get it out of your system and you'll stop.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

Well, maybe Seth will get it out.

[Jorma Taccone]

I'm saying stop. He is the problem. You're fine. Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

It almost never comes up. Because of Josh.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

The real bummer would be if, when Josh listens to the Lonely island podcast, if all the stories are about family trips.

[Jorma Taccone]

Why?

[Josh Meyers]

What if.

[Jorma Taccone]

It's really sweet, though. It's all just. Just like, you know, talking about how much he loves his brother.

[Josh Meyers]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

Could be. You should tune in, Josh.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, I'm just like, a lot of me. Climb. Be, like, enough about your songs.

[Jorma Taccone]

You know what?

[Josh Meyers]

Really tell me more stories about voicemails that Steve Higgins left for you.

[Seth Meyers]

I think that people are going to like the.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Jorma Taccone]

By the way, Josh knows Steve Higgins like someone. Someone only you and I know.

[Seth Meyers]

I know. But sometimes for the listener. All right, well, y love you very much.

[Jorma Taccone]

Love you too.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. I hope to see you soon.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yes. And if you want to go to the Grand Canyon, Josh, I'm all in.

[Josh Meyers]

Great. Excellent.

[Seth Meyers]

Ace and I are gonna do some cool instead.

[Jorma Taccone]

Oh, What?

[Josh Meyers]

All right, pal. Thank you. He wanted some now and later was just living his life Neighbor said Imma kill you with his own kitchen knife Wasn't great with the latest so we started strike through yelled at his dad only Winston understands me 12 year old.

[Jorma Taccone]

Yamato Coney took a Hawaiian vacay? He was so disappointed when he saw where he'd stay it was a structure made of driftwood with a tub for a door There were fire cockroaches and you slept on the floor but his brother loved it he was the cooler tween freaking love and a whole of he was part of the scene Went down the waters run with slick moss Going to a new house you might be more like AA if he only knew how.