The Creep

Summary

The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast: "The Creep"

Release Date: August 5, 2026
Episode Theme: A deep dive into the creation and legacy of "The Creep," one of SNL's most memorable Digital Shorts, featuring The Lonely Island (Andy Samberg, Akiva Schaffer, and Jorma Taccone) and host Seth Meyers.

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Episode Overview

This episode explores the making of "The Creep" SNL Digital Short. The Lonely Island trio and Seth reminisce about how the song and video came together, the collaborative process, their memories of working with Nicki Minaj and John Waters, and what made "The Creep" unique both musically and visually. Along the way, they touch on SNL backstage stories, inside jokes about scheduling, and share plenty of behind-the-scenes insights with their signature laid-back, comedic banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Podcast Banter, Vibes, and Scheduling Humor

• [01:21–06:13]
  • Andy clarifies his recent absence and the group's dynamic when someone's missing:
    Andy: "I was pretty run down. You know, summertime with the family." ([02:04])
  • Running joke about the podcast being mostly about “scheduling.”
    Seth: "This is definitely one of my top five podcasts about scheduling." ([05:15])
  • The “height discourse”: perceptions about each member's height and the running gag about “three snarks in a trench coat.”
    Keith: "And Yorm at 3 snorks in a trench coat." ([11:13])

2. The “Creep” as an SNL Digital Short

• [10:45–13:00]

  • Seth: “Is this the first time all three of you were in a digital short together?” ([10:52])
  • Turns out, along with "Jack Sparrow," "The Creep" was one of the only shorts where all three were leads.

• Heights and Public Perception

  • Andy discusses viewers often thinking he was much taller than reality due to "Lazy Sunday" and "Hot Rod."
    Andy: “Because I’m 5’10, which is, I believe, exactly average.” ([11:56])

3. Origins and Creation of "The Creep"

• The Beat and Writing Process

  • Keith: “Chops is on the track. He’s the maker of the beat. We liked this kind of spooky, kooky vibe...” ([20:53])
  • The concept of inventing a dance—something they’d often circle back to in their creative process.
  • Akiva's knack for coming up with awkward dance moves and group dynamic in developing skits.
  • Andy: “I feel like you came up with The Creep and, with the donkey roll...I stand up and just make the most awkward moves on purpose and go something like this.” ([21:39])

• Song Structure and Group Contributions

  • Akiva and Andy initially did most of the writing; Yorma contributed the chorus and attempted a verse, but the song worked best shorter.
  • Keith: “Me and Andy had kind of made the whole song…then we were like, Yorm, do the chorus with us, and it'll feel like it's all of us.” ([22:53])
  • Yorma (“Yhorm”) calls in to clarify that he was present for the writing and helped make the song “weirder,” supporting the track’s odd, playful energy.
    Yhorm: "...my big contribution was that Akiva's in particular got way weirder of, like, the way he was kind of freaking it." ([23:17])

4. Nicki Minaj’s Guest Feature & Production

• [26:00–31:00]
  • Getting Nicki Minaj on the track before her breakthrough as a mainstream superstar.
    Keith: “...it was not that hard for us to get her on the song...there wasn’t that much incoming business, especially from big things like SNL.” ([27:22])
  • Nicki's verse was written by Andy as a demo; Minaj gave input but agreed to record it as is. They also adopted “Nicki Minaj–style audio flourishes” in editing.
  • Nicki was impressed by the production values of Lonely Island’s videos compared to her own early work. Keith: "She was like, 'Why do your videos look better than mine?'" ([30:47])
  • The song only became a favorite for the Lonely Island guys after mixing and Nicki's contribution.

5. John Waters Cameo

• [33:09–36:06; 38:49]
  • Waters’ blessing and cameo was considered “overdue” since their visual look was inspired by him.
  • Details on securing his participation via remote filming and the delight they felt at his involvement. Andy: “We didn't have that [Waters] before it...[after] we thought...it’d be great to get his blessing because we're huge fans.” ([33:46])
  • Yorma shares his own recollections, further detailing logistics and the filming crew.

6. Choreography, Visuals & Technical Notes

• [43:39–47:32]
  • Use of anamorphic lenses (“to get those lens flares like Hype Williams would do”), giving the video its distinctive wide-screen look.
  • The intention behind the intentionally awkward dance and the Creeps’ physicality.
  • Keith: “This frame. I’m gonna go back a [teeny] more so you can see...This is quintessential what we’re talking about. Just awkward. Whatever that is. Not that. That’s it too. But this.” ([47:31])

7. Comedy and Satire: Creep Persona & Arrest

• [52:23–53:07]
  • The video ends with the creeps in jail, which the group explains as a tongue-in-cheek comeuppance for the characters’ “creepiness,” making it clear they’re antiheroes, not role models. Seth: “Which I think is your way of saying, we know they’re not heroes, they’re antiheroes and they've received their comeuppance.” ([52:38])

8. Script, Treatment, and Production Tidbits

• [55:56–57:15]
  • The hosts review the actual documented treatment for "The Creep," noting how closely the final video followed the original concept.
  • Andy and Keith reminisce about each major scene and the process for realizing them.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On creative process:
  • Andy: “We were never that hot on the song...then once it all got mixed, we were like, oh, I actually like this more than I thought I did, because it does...thump in the trunk like a gorilla trying to get up out the trunk.” ([25:17])
• On Nicki Minaj’s rise:
  • Keith: “[W]e told people we have a song with Nicki Minaj and got blank stares... by January she was a big enough deal to be the musical guest…that's how quick it went from 0 to 100.” ([27:41])
• On John Waters’ cameo:
  • Keith: “Somebody went to his apartment or house, they set up a green screen, got a close up and he just said the line for us and then they just sent us the clip and we just had a little green screen of him and put him into this TV and we were overjoyed.” ([35:59])
  • John Waters, via email: “For a sneak, I guess I'd rather look like a perv than an asshole... I love the song.” ([44:18])
• On video’s humor and self-awareness:
  • Seth: “Which I think is your way of saying, we know they're not heroes, they're antiheroes and they've received their comeuppance.” ([52:38])
• On behind-the-scenes dad life:
  • Keith: “It’s so easy to go to work on a Monday compared to taking care of kids over a weekend.” ([02:55])
• On podcast “scheduling” meta-jokes:
  • Seth: “This is definitely one of my top five podcasts about scheduling.” ([05:15])

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• 01:21: Main episode begins: Andy’s vibe and group chemistry
• 10:52: First Lonely Island digital short with all three as leads
• 20:53: “The Creep” production discussion begins
• 22:53: Song structure, group contributions, mythology of Yorma’s “lost verse”
• 26:00: Getting Nicki Minaj—her rise, recording process, video production
• 33:09: John Waters’ cameo and influence
• 43:39: Technical breakdown—lenses, choreography, and visual style
• 52:38: Creeps as antiheroes, arrested at the end of the video
• 55:56: Review of the original “Creep” treatment and production notes

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Episode Structure and Tone

• Language & Tone:

  • Casual, self-deprecating, and improvisational. There’s a sense of camaraderie, nostalgia, and a willingness to poke fun at themselves and each other.
  • Genuine gratitude toward collaborators and guest stars (especially John Waters and Nicki Minaj).

• Sections:

  • Catch-up and mailbag (audience feedback, podcast logistics)
  • Origin stories and creative process (music, video, SNL details)
  • Technical and behind-the-scenes info (production, video shoots, guest booking)
  • Extended bits about height, pop culture trivia, and in-group jokes

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode provides an in-depth, humorous, and sometimes irreverent look into the making of “The Creep,” revealing the fluid, collaborative, and sometimes chaotic Lonely Island dynamic. It’s peppered with SNL backstage lore, original creative choices, last-minute booking stories, playful ribbing, and affectionate tributes to comedy and music heroes. If you love insider comedy process, digital short history, or Lonely Island’s brand of absurdity, it’s a must-listen.

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Transcript

[Keith]

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[Andy]

And I'm Stephen, your bookish Internet goofball, but you can call me the Smash Daddy.

[Keith]

And we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic Mistborn. But here's the catch. Steven here has not read Mistborn before.

[Andy]

That's right.

[Keith]

Hey.

[Andy]

Hey. So each week, you'll get my unfiltered raw reactions to every single chapter.

[Keith]

And along the way, we'll do character deep dives, magic explainers, and Steven will even try to guess what's next. So, spoiler alert, he'll be wrong.

[Andy]

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[Unknown Child]

it's the lonely island and Seth Meyers podcast.

[Seth]

Hey, what's up, dudes?

[Andy]

Andy's back.

[Seth]

Andy's back. How was your vibe? Because we received some feedback that your vibe on the first show you were gone for, you came in really hot on the voice note. And the second one was a little different.

[Andy]

I was unwell.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Seth]

People noticed.

[Andy]

Yeah. Crashed out.

[Seth]

Yeah. Here's what somebody said.

[Unknown Child]

Dude.

[Seth]

Someone needs to check in on him. Last week he was frothing with rage, and this week he sounds like he's looking at the churning blackness of the water as it crashes to the shore of the cliff you're standing on.

[Andy]

Yeah, I mean, I'm not bipolar, though. Is that what they're implying?

[Seth]

I don't know. They also then added that either that or he just woke up, which is. I mean, that means they really know you.

[Andy]

I was. I was pretty run down. You know, summertime with the family. Seth and Keith. You know about this, too? Sure. Yoram would as well. Would he have been here? You Know, sometimes it happens. I hold no grudges. I'm happy for Jorm to miss.

[Keith]

He said he might join.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And if he does, that'd be great. And if not, it's okay.

[Seth]

No judge. No judge.

[Andy]

Yeah. But there are moments where it becomes too much and you break.

[Seth]

Yeah. I think it's a real reminder that.

[Unknown Child]

Why didn't you take me home?

[Seth]

I'm sorry, buddy. There's a good example right now.

[Unknown Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Yhorm]

Yeah.

[Seth]

There's a child right here who's a little upset with me. Can you just walk into frame and show him how you're crossing your arms at me?

[Andy]

There he goes.

[Yhorm]

Yeah.

[Seth]

All right, now out you go. I gotta do this. I'm sorry. I thought you were with your friends.

[Andy]

He's like, what friends?

[Unknown Child]

Dad.

[Seth]

It's. You know what? It turns out when you're a dad, you know, when your summer is the winter.

[Keith]

Me and Andy talk often about how I would show up on Mondays as the first person in our group with kids, and I'd be like, oh, just so ready to rock. Cause it's so easy to go to work on a Monday compared to taking care of kids over a weekend. Oh, that's right.

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[Keith]

And he'd be so tired and like, what are you doing? We're back at work. And I'd be like, this is the best part of the day.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I had no idea.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I didn't know.

[Seth]

You realize, like, the thing that you want from the lion, the witch in the wardrobe, is just the door. That the wardrobe has a door.

[Keith]

You're happy to sit in the closet.

[Seth]

When I go to my office, I'm always like, ah, hello, door.

[Keith]

Hi.

[Seth]

Hello, sweet door.

[Keith]

How do you close you?

[Seth]

Yes, yes. And it's respected. It's a respected door. No one here treats it like a saloon door that you can just push open guns blazing.

[Keith]

A respected door.

[Yhorm]

Oh, my God.

[Seth]

It's a respected door. Sorry, can I just unload on you real quick? Andy, everybody's really happy you're here, but I do feel like a lot of the comments were about your absence, and

[Andy]

I just wanted to get out of my way. I would love to get unloaded on, and I mean that. Any way you want to take it.

[Keith]

Andy.

[Seth]

You mean that?

[Keith]

Sorry. You recorded those voice notes on a good mic. You sounded really good on both, like, audio quality wise.

[Andy]

My brother was an iPhone voice note app. Wow.

[Unknown Ad Voice]

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[Keith]

I was surprised you had gotten out a good mic to do them, but whatever you were doing, it was working for you.

[Andy]

Thank you, my friend.

[Seth]

It's gonna be positive feedback too.

[Andy]

And remember, that's before I get dumped on.

[Seth]

If you wanna see Andy get unloaded on in person, just tell him you've watched Digman on the Somebody wrote in Andy's job interview if POD co host was a real job. So to recap, you hate our industry. The one hour work week is gonna be a problem. When you do show up, you'll complain about how much you ha. And you planned on spending most of the workday playing games on your phone.

[Andy]

Yeah, very apt. The only thing I would take issue with that is the one hour work week.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Cause I'm available like honestly, like 30 to 40 hours a week that others aren't.

[Seth]

The Venn diagram of the 40 hours a week we're all free. It's crazy how little overlap.

[Andy]

It's very difficult to parse. I think people have gotten that picture by now.

[Seth]

Somebod, in fact, wrote in this comment that made me laugh. This is definitely one of my top five podcasts about scheduling.

[Keith]

Fair hit.

[Andy]

I didn't ask for this.

[Seth]

Somebody piggybacked on a comment. I always enjoy when two members of Quaid army work in concert with each other. The first comment was, Andy not showing up for the podcast for the second week really pisses me off so much. I'm about to take my phone and throw it on the ground. And then the next person wrote in all caps. If I wanted a podcast without Andy on it, I listen to any other podcast.

[Andy]

Very in character.

[Seth]

Very in character.

[Keith]

So some people maybe think that you, Andy, are the best character on the pod.

[Andy]

I don't know. I think, you know, absence makes the heart grow fonder. Sure.

[Seth]

Yeah. That's true. That's a very, very smart move.

[Andy]

People have conflict, you know. Spicy.

[Seth]

They do they? Well, yeah. For the Real Housewives, you're like an essential part. If this was a Real Housewives situation, you needed Andy.

[Andy]

I'm the victim.

[Keith]

You are the victim.

[Seth]

You're the perpetrator who thinks you're the victim. Hey, real quick, Andy, how would you say the word B U O Y?

[Andy]

I'm sorry?

[Seth]

B U O Y floating in the water. How do you say it?

[Andy]

Buoy.

[Seth]

Yeah. So England, Australia, they call it a boy, which seems crazy to me, Right? But then a bunch of people when we were saying that sounds crazy are like, well, how would you say buoyant or buoyancy?

[Andy]

Oh, that's true.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Buoyancy.

[Seth]

And I will say I've always. You've always said, Andy, buoyancy.

[Andy]

Buoyancy. Buoyant yeah.

[Seth]

But you do say boy le Baiss for fish stew.

[Andy]

I say Bo ulia Bay ice.

[Seth]

But then the question I have for them, I'm going to turn it around. Like, if your spirit is buoyed, does that mean in England you're like, is your spirit buoyed?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So, you know, I don't know, man. I mean, good arguments on both sides.

[Seth]

So let us know.

[Keith]

Clappus and the tatus, clap us in

[Seth]

the tapas and the tapas to all our quumpets out there.

[Unknown Child]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Oh, we mentioned Reece Thomas as now a short film director, Rhys Thomas, who then with Alex Buono, directed documentary. Now, he's very accomplished director. He's done a ton of stuff. People were complaining that they could not Google him. And I think that's because a lot of people don't know that when you're Welsh and your name is Reese, it's Rhys. There's quite. Quite a few of them.

[Keith]

But is the Reese of Widow's Bay that we were talking about?

[Seth]

He does that.

[Keith]

Oh, yes. Okay.

[Seth]

Yeah, he's our hys.

[Andy]

So I heard you guys talking about Widow's Bay. I'm three in, and I've texted you guys about this, but it's entirely too spooky.

[Seth]

Like, it's too scary for you.

[Andy]

Yeah, you guys were being like, it's not that scary. And I'm like, yeah, but also, you don't like Lord of the Rings. You're an idiot.

[Seth]

Right, right. But Lord of the Rings for me is, like, not even close to scary enough.

[Andy]

No, I'm not saying it's scary. I'm saying it's good. Like, you have wrong opinions is what I'm saying. It's confrontational again, is what I'm doing.

[Seth]

I like a good jump scare and the best Lord of the Rings has is a sit scare.

[Andy]

But I like Lord of the Rings specifically because it's not scary. It's just good.

[Keith]

It's not scary. It's supposed to be scary.

[Andy]

It's a nice long walk.

[Seth]

Yeah. I mean, when you think about it, the Odyssey is basically just Lord of the Rings on boats.

[Andy]

Oh, spoilers.

[Seth]

Jonathan Rees Davies. Jonathan Reese Davies. Do you know what iconic movie he's been in a ton?

[Andy]

Jonathan Reese Davies.

[Seth]

Well, yeah.

[Andy]

From Paris With Love. Right.

[Keith]

Isn't that Jonathan Reese? Oh, no.

[Seth]

Jonathan Reese Myers.

[Andy]

No, Jonathan Reese Daisies. Is. He's Gimli.

[Seth]

Oh, is he Gimli? He might be Gimli.

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[Andy]

Yeah.

[Seth]

And he's Raiders. The Lost Ark. He's Bad dates.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah.

[Seth]

Yeah. Oh, my God, I'm so bummed. I'm so bummed. I brought up somebody in Lord of the Rings. Bad dates.

[Andy]

Because you know, it's dope deep in your heart.

[Seth]

Yeah, I'm okay.

[Keith]

So they're both Jonathan Reese's.

[Seth]

Yeah. It's crazy. Rhys Darby. Reese Darby from Flight of the Concords.

[Andy]

Terence Trent Darby.

[Seth]

Yes.

[Keith]

Wish Me Love a wishing well doesn't involve the Reese.

[Seth]

Do your impression of Terence Reese Darby. You're Welsh. Terrence Trent Darby. But you remember when you auditioned for SNL and you did Terrence Reese Darby, who is the Welsh.

[Andy]

Yeah. Wish Me Love a wishing Welsh.

[Seth]

You're wishing on a wishing Welsh. You're wilshing on a wish. Oh, boy. Rhys Ifans. Ifans, I think is his name, right? Notting Hill.

[Keith]

That's how you say it. Not Ifans.

[Seth]

Ifans. I think you're right. I got it wrong.

[Keith]

That guy's very funny. He's very good.

[Seth]

He's very good. Andy, did you get one of these fake IDs that Keev and Yoram used to have? The North Carolina fake IDs?

[Andy]

Never did. I was always very envious and impressed. Yeah, they did a good job.

[Seth]

They described at length what it took to make him, and someone said it seems like the steps to make The North Carolina IDs is exactly how many steps Ray Harryhausen took to make Jason and the Argonauts.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Seth]

Joke about how hard claymation is a nice walk.

[Andy]

A nice, long, leisurely walk. Like Lord of the Rings.

[Seth]

Lord of the Rings.

[Andy]

I said it first. You were gonna say it, and I heard you start saying it, but then I said it instead, and I.

[Seth]

You jumped in. You jumped in. My height came up, Andy. And someone said you're. They got your height wrong. I think somebody said, I always thought Seth was at least 6. I put. Put Keeve at 5' 10, Andy at 5' 8, and Yorm at 3. Snorks in a trench coat.

[Keith]

Appreciate it being a snork. You know, we're Snork guys.

[Seth]

We talked about Top Billin by Audio2.

[Andy]

Wait, people thought Keev was taller than me?

[Seth]

I know. I'm very surprised. Well, we are about. So we're gonna talk about the creep today.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Seth]

And before we do. And before we watch it. Is this the first time all three of you were in a digital short together? Like, not counting I'm on a boat,

[Andy]

Oranges in My Pants, which Keith was in in a cameo. But was this the first one where all three.

[Seth]

But this is like all three of you. Like, you're like all the leads.

[Andy]

Yeah, possibly.

[Seth]

I think it is. And it's pretty great.

[Keith]

I think that's right. And it might also be the last. Oh, no. I guess. Jack Sparrow.

[Andy]

Jack Sparrow.

[Keith]

It's just those.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Pretty cool. So check out the heights. Check out the heights, everybody, because this is you. There's not a lot of time to see them all in a line. And this is.

[Andy]

Well, I can't remember if I've ever talked about this height wise, Seth. I mean, just quick little diverg. In the beginning of me being on the show, everyone thought I was tall because the first thing they all saw was Lazy Sunday, and I am taller than Parnell.

[Seth]

Right.

[Andy]

And then they would watch our stuff, you know, the few people that watched Hot Rod, and they would see me next to Yorm, and they'd be like, this guy's a giant. And so I would get the opposite thing where when I would meet people, a lot of the time it was like, roadhouse. They'd be like, I thought you'd be taller.

[Seth]

Right.

[Andy]

Because I'm five' ten.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Which is, I believe, exactly average.

[Nikayla Matthews Akome]

That's a.

[Keith]

And I'm a half inch shorter than Andy.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Seth]

And they did nail three snarks in a trench coat. That is. That's accurate to the centimeter.

[Andy]

Kev is a half inch shorter than me, but 100 times smarter. So it's a good trade.

[Keith]

Hey, thanks.

[Seth]

I'm the real roadhouse situation. Andy, because of spending an entire career sitting for real, everybody's like, whoa. Like, just like. They're like, whoa.

[Andy]

They think you're going to be bigger or smaller?

[Seth]

Smaller. The thing I hear all the time is like, oh, you're so much taller than I thought.

[Andy]

Roadhouse is the opposite. They're all like, I thought you'd be big.

[Unknown Child]

Oh, right.

[Seth]

Yeah. You're a roadhouse.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Unknown Ad Voice]

Right.

[Andy]

Well, I don't know about the new Roadhouse. I haven't seen it. But the Swayze Roadhouse.

[Seth]

Yeah. I feel like they probably. I hope they kept that.

[Andy]

Thought you'd be bigger. Get that a lot.

[Seth]

In the new Roadhouse, the catchphrase is, that's about right. Every time they see Jake, they're like. That's what I picture.

[Andy]

Yeah. Like, good looking, kind of jacked.

[Yhorm]

Dude.

[Seth]

Yeah, kind of jacked. Not giant.

[Andy]

He looks like he could kick some butt.

[Seth]

Not giant. Not tiny.

[Andy]

Yeah. Especially when you put him next to the guy from Broad City.

[Seth]

We talked about top Bill and by audio two.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Somebody said it's the featured sample In a ton of other songs.

[Andy]

The drum loop, for sure.

[Seth]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

I want to say real love.

[Seth]

They said 50 cents. I get money.

[Keith]

I get money. Money I've got. It's that line.

[Seth]

I believe Kanye and Jay Z's Otis from Watch the Throne.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Classic Nobody Speak by DJ Shadow and Run the Jewels.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Seth]

Only God can judge me by two pack.

[Andy]

Two pack?

[Keith]

Yeah. From two Pacalypse. Now, I love that. I love that two pack because of.

[Seth]

I'm sorry. Two. Two spots.

[Andy]

He's been globally famous for, like, 40.

[Keith]

Yeah, but that's the. You can't take the New Hampshire out of the voyage.

[Seth]

There's been a huge problem for me for a long time.

[Andy]

That's the most Ant Linda shit you've ever pulled.

[Seth]

It really is. And by the way, I've gotten. I've had this corrected the entirety of my life. I can't get it right, but.

[Keith]

Is that a New England accent? Is that what that is?

[Seth]

I don't know what it is. I just. How I see it, and I can't get over it when I see it.

[Andy]

It's kind of.

[Keith]

It's kind of Pittsburgh because it's packed.

[Seth]

It's Chicago. Dupac is Tupac. I miss him.

[Andy]

Is Yin's two Packs going to come over to the.

[Seth]

Yeah, Tupac. Let me tell you something. Yeah. Well, boy, I'm all over the place. The name of the video game was Karateka. Is that what it called? Karate. Karateka. Karate ka. Karate Ka.

[Unknown Ad Voice]

What are you talking about?

[Seth]

That's what we're talking about. The Nintendo thing from last week.

[Keith]

But what. What game would be Karate?

[Andy]

Nintendo Fun Hour, by the way. I listened to a little bit of the pod. Yoram was saying that I wasn't a part of it because I didn't like editing, which I took issue with.

[Keith]

No, you just weren't there.

[Andy]

I was out of town. And I remember coming back and being like, this is so dope. You guys rock.

[Keith]

Yeah. You were very super happy.

[Seth]

And you love editing. I'm not. I'm not doing a bit here. You. You have an incredible amount of respect for editing.

[Keith]

Also without touching the computer. You're one of the better editors.

[Unknown Child]

I know.

[Keith]

You just are.

[Andy]

Maybe that's what your man is like. What happened, Seth, is this. I went to film school. I edited all my own stuff. I'm not as tech savvy, like, on the Ones and Twos, as Keev or Yorm. They're both really, really good at it. Like, obviously at a professional level. And so when I started, we all started working together. I was like, well, I'm not gonna do it. Like, you guys are better at it. But then we would all just do it together, right?

[Keith]

Yes.

[Seth]

Like, I remember coming in and often finding you at 2, 3 in the morning with these dudes looking at an edit every time.

[Keith]

Yeah, no, this guy gave editing notes that were frame on every episode of Brooklyn Nine Nine. That Dan Gore counted on and told me himself a couple months ago that it was a key part of the process.

[Andy]

I love editing and I think Yorm just meant I wasn't putting my fingers on the keyboard. I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt since he's not here.

[Keith]

Yeah, well, you're technically per the editing guild. You're not an editor if you're not touching the keyboard. A lot of directors sit there and tell the editor exactly what to do, and the editor is still editing even though the director is sitting there. I love the process, making every choice.

[Andy]

And you know what I also loved was Nintendo Fun Hour.

[Seth]

It was great.

[Andy]

Nintendo Fun Hour and the heist. And just two guys are the three things that these guys did without me where I came back and was like, fuck, these are so good. I love you guys.

[Seth]

There's a real early, genuine Keevan Yorm

[Andy]

vibe where so good.

[Seth]

You see a direct line from those early seeds to what they. What they grew into. All class, all craft, all combined, 10 and a half feet.

[Keith]

Thank you.

[Andy]

I still in my mind often will hear you are the superior dancer.

[Keith]

Wait now, Seth you for a second though we're saying Karate K. I still don't understand what that was.

[Seth]

That's the name of the game on Nintendo that people think yhorms dude was from.

[Keith]

No, that was Kung Fu.

[Andy]

Kung Fu. Okay, Are you sure it's not like a whole genre of making things out of video games?

[Seth]

Because it was a movie as well.

[Andy]

That was a movie because that's a thing too.

[Keith]

I mean, the. The classic Nintendo game is called Kung Fu Master. I guess.

[Seth]

Yeah, you're right. I'm looking at this.

[Keith]

But no, it didn't have the word master on it.

[Andy]

It's Kung Fu.

[Keith]

I don't know why they said.

[Seth]

I don't know why I said this. I'm. Look, sometimes I just read there.

[Andy]

Oh, wait, no. Maybe it is Kung Fu Master.

[Keith]

No, but then that's the COVID and it just says Kung Fu on it. I don't know where they get the word master in. Yeah, different territories might have had a master on there. The game we couldn't remember the Name of that we were debating was Rad Racer, which is the one that looks like Outrun. Sega Outrun, where you're behind the car.

[Andy]

Oh, I loved Rad Racer.

[Keith]

Yes. And that was Rad Racer. That's the only game we didn't remember the name of, really.

[Seth]

While we were talking about it, I just put in the chat, someone made this because we were talking about the Shining and Yoram referred to Shelley Duvall as Shelley Long. And if you look in the chat, there's a really nice piece of graphic from Quaid.

[Andy]

Is it going to be Shelley Long and the Shining?

[Seth]

Yeah. It's pretty good, though.

[Keith]

Oh, wow.

[Seth]

Yeah, it's really good.

[Keith]

I would like to see that.

[Seth]

I'd like to see that.

[Andy]

Whoever did that. I like what you did.

[Seth]

Yeah. Let's see what else we have to talk about. Oh, you know, sometimes somebody writes something in and it's like. I don't know, you feel like it's like two truths and a lie situation. Because I believe part of it. And then I'm like, hold up here.

[Andy]

We're all ears.

[Seth]

In a recent New York Times Games ad on the Ezra Klein podcast, Sam Mazersky talks about having grapheme color synesthesia where letters and words evoke specific colors. Believe it. He also says he's finished the mini in four seconds. I believe it. I believe Sam would say that.

[Keith]

He must be doing it on a computer for some.

[Andy]

You said you believe he would say that.

[Seth]

I believe he would say that.

[Andy]

Do you believe that he did it?

[Seth]

I do.

[Keith]

Four seconds is insane. But there's no. I would argue there's no way to do it on iPhone.

[Seth]

No, he's gotta be on the phone.

[Keith]

The buttons are just too clumsy.

[Seth]

Or is he on, like. You know what? I think he did it on, like, a Minority Report thing where he was like, oh, yeah.

[Keith]

Like he got one of those giant Microsoft tablet tables for seconds.

[Andy]

Seth, even if I knew the answers before I opened it, I couldn't do it in four seconds.

[Keith]

Right, Right.

[Seth]

Maybe it's a lie. So maybe it's two lies and a truth. Because the last thing was. And then he continues, and I quote, fuck you, Andy.

[Andy]

Oh, my God.

[Seth]

Don't think that was in the ad, Sam.

[Keith]

Somebody could find us the clip. Kevin, will you see if you find us the clip before?

[Seth]

But it's an ad. That's the problem. Oh, I don't know if they have the ad in the transcript. It was a New York Times game ad.

[Keith]

An ad isn't going to have the F word in it.

[Seth]

To quote Shelley Long in the Shining.

[Andy]

Yeah, Sam.

[Unknown Child]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Thank you.

[Keith]

Yeah. All work and no play makes Sam a dull boy.

[Andy]

Woody.

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[Seth]

all right, we're. We're talking about the creep, you guys. I turn it over to you.

[Keith]

Chops is on the track.

[Andy]

Chops on the track. He's the. The maker of the beat. This was definitely one where we liked the beat and had flagged it. And we were like. We like this kind of spooky, kooky vibe. Right, Keith? Your words.

[Keith]

Yeah. I always call things spooky and kook.

[Seth]

It is a spooky, kooky vibe. It's not a terrible way to describe that.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Yhorm]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But still got a little bit of thumper in it. And I don't remember how it started. Was it we were like, we want to do a dance song. Like, where we have an original dance.

[Keith]

I'm sure we. That always is kind of circling us at some point during every.

[Andy]

It's always kind of circling the drain with us. Yeah.

[Keith]

It's always just kind of right next to the trash can. I do feel like we talked about it a lot of times in various things. Like, yeah, we should have a dance. I mean, we do it in Pop Star with the Donkey Roll.

[Andy]

Exactly. It was the double down. But yeah, I mean, I'm guessing Akiva made up the dance. He's really good at that. It always just sort of flows through him.

[Seth]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Seth]

So Keev is the choreographer of the Tree.

[Andy]

I feel like you came up with the creep and with a donkey roll. Am I wrong?

[Keith]

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I stand up and just make the most awkward moves on purpose and go something like this.

[Andy]

It is an interesting thing, though, Seth, because yhorm and I are more into, like, physical, like, moving kind of performances.

[Unknown Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Keith]

But I like acting awkward. That's what all of Justin guys is. And Virginia Whoreson's. Those are all my moves. I choreographed Virginia Horsons.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Oh, my God. You worked with Whoreson.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Wish we had more crystal clear memory of how it started, but I think it was basically exactly what it was.

[Seth]

It's tough when we don't have the memory trap. Yhorm.

[Keith]

Yeah. Yhorm's gonna have a yhormthorn and I'm gonna set him up for it now, which is me and you. Andy must have done a lot of it without yhorm. And then we're like, no, but you can get on it. Like, get on the chorus.

[Yhorm]

Right?

[Keith]

And he did get on the chorus. So it feels, Seth, to your point, like it's all three of us. But if you actually pay attention, yhorm doesn't have a verse. Ah, so you think it is. But I think me and Andy had kind of made the whole song.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Keith]

And then we were like, yorm, do the chorus with us, and it'll feel like it's all of us in the video. And then at one point, he was like, well, let me just try to do a verse. And he added it. But the truth is, like, we always talk about our songs. Should be like, two and a half minutes at most.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Keith]

And so it just kept making the song too long. And then again, he'll yorm thorn us. He was annoyed that we kind of deleted it. We were like, nah, it didn't make it better.

[Yhorm]

It's 2:30 in the morning when I'm recording my responses to this episode. You guys are misremembering. I was in the room for the entirety of the creepy and was, I think, on the ones and twos. As Andy so eloquently put it, Ones and twos is a reference to turntables, guys, for those of you who don't know techniques 1200s. So I was in the room for all of it. We were sort of working on it together. And yeah, I had a verse about being under bleachers. Or something like that. I was like, at a high school football game or something like that. And also I made the song weirder because I don't know whose verse was first or whatever. Maybe it was Andy's or whatever. But I was encouraging us to go weirder with the way we were talking. And so that was my big contribution, was that Akiva's in particular got way weirder of, like, the way he was kind of freaking it. And.

[Kohler Smart Toilet Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Yhorm]

And then. And then we all sort of collectively decided that it was. It was too long. I. I agreed with that. I mean, it was. It was all good on that one. I'm on a boat I'm still angry about, but the creep. I was like, yeah, no, that's. It's too long.

[Andy]

Yes. And it was a totally good verse, is my recollection. It was just about tonnage of the premise, which is already a little soft.

[Keith]

Yeah. And we were never that hot on the song. There was a few things that happened. We liked it enough. We were like, yeah, this is fun. One thing that happened, this is jumping farther ahead, is when it got mixed. We realized that, like, the simplicity of the chops beat, like, this is a compliment, not backhanded, that it was leaving enough room for, like, the bass to hit actually really hard. And usually we are attracted to very complicated, dense beats that are really dynamic on their own before there's a voice. But if you listen to a lot

[Andy]

of modern backpack rap.

[Keith]

Yeah, if you listen to a lot of modern rap, like, Drake specifically, is really minimalist in his beats, and it allows his voice to really take up a lot of the speaker, a lot of the frequency.

[Andy]

Travis.

[Keith]

Yes. A lot of modern hip hop. A lot of trap is like that.

[Andy]

So this stands for trapezoid. Keep going.

[Keith]

Yeah, a lot of trapezoids are like that. This was more rectangular anyways, so this was a little something that we weren't as hot on. And then once it all got mixed, we were like, oh, I actually like this more than I thought I did, because it does. As. As Andy said in his words, thump in the trunk like a gorilla trying

[Yhorm]

to get up out the trunk. E40.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically paraphrasing, but yeah.

[Keith]

And then Nicki Minaj is the other huge thing. Yeah. She had done the verse on the Kanye song Monster.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Keith]

And this is before both of them became monsters in real life, which was interesting.

[Andy]

Akiva, you can't say that.

[Seth]

I think you can at this point.

[Keith]

I think it's.

[Seth]

This isn't a toe on the line situation.

[Keith]

No, these are. These are so far gone, it's fucking nuts. So let's just get that out there.

[Andy]

I personally am gonna stand on the sidelines on this one.

[Keith]

Okay, well, that's interesting.

[Seth]

Do you think in the end, the song was a curse, Keith, that everybody who did the guest verse didn't realize that they were.

[Keith]

They were slowing.

[Seth]

Jay Z, Rick Ross, Jay Z.

[Andy]

And he's doing great.

[Keith]

Jay Z's Rick Ross is on Monster too. I haven't heard Monster in a decade.

[Seth]

It's, by the way, top to bottom. Fantastic.

[Keith]

Yeah, it's an all timer.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Keith]

And we're big on the. We separate the art from the artist on this pod. That's a huge thing for us.

[Andy]

Remember the moment that moment was all about, like, whoa, Nicki Minaj just stole it. And she's on this track with these

[Keith]

huge fucking hands, and she's basically an unknown to the real world. And then. So it's only people really paying attention who are like, it's a Bridesmaids, Melissa McCarthy moment for Nicki Minaj where she's coming onto a thing with superstars of the genre and being the thing that just pops right out of it, but is not a household name by any stretch. So my point is, it was not that hard for us to get her on the song.

[Seth]

Right.

[Keith]

Because the opportunities hadn't started rolling in.

[Seth]

Do you think Kanye, when the verses came in, I mean, by the way, I'm sure much has been written and said about this was like, oh, no, we gotta put her last.

[Andy]

Unclear. But it was definitely. This is very, very, like, common knowledge. Like, oh, Nicki Minaj popped off on Monster and stole a song.

[Seth]

Yeah, I think that's true.

[Keith]

But for instance, I remember when we got back to SNL in September, this is how fast she blew up. We told people we have a song with Nicki Minaj and got blank stares from anybody in the cast or writer that we brought it up to. Not a single person knew who she was in the beginning of this year. And then by January, she was a big enough deal to be the musical guest. That's how quick it went from 0 to 100.

[Seth]

Oh, so is that why this is the week you did the song? Cause you shot her for the video?

[Keith]

Correct. But we did the song in the summer.

[Seth]

I didn't realize she had already been on the track.

[Keith]

Yeah, when we reached out, it was awesome because we were like, we know she's amazing. It would have been much harder to get her later, of course, but this was like, there wasn't that much incoming business, especially from big things like snl, which always helped, you know, grease the tracks for us.

[Seth]

I want to say one more thing about Monster, which is. It's still like, genuinely. It's a great verse. It's so funny to me that Jay Z's verse starts Sasquatch, Godzilla, King Kong, Loch Ness. It's so funny.

[Andy]

I'll never go against Hov, but it's, you know, the beginning of that verse. I wouldn't put in my top five Jay Z verses.

[Seth]

Let's just say that it's so funny. It is like.

[Keith]

It's on theme, though. He didn't just go do some random stuff.

[Seth]

So funny. I love it so much. It's like someone had fun with it.

[Andy]

Seth.

[Seth]

It's so much fun. It was like they were.

[Keith]

He was having fun with it.

[Seth]

It's like they were like trying to guess monsters on, like, $10,000 pyramid. It's so fun. I love it. I have no shade for it. It's. It made me smile every time I hear it.

[Andy]

Sounded like a pretty well constructed burn.

[Seth]

Well, that. But that's all. Look, I'm gonna.

[Andy]

I would have gone Family Feud.

[Nikayla Matthews Akome]

Family Feud.

[Seth]

Family Feud.

[Nikayla Matthews Akome]

Better.

[Seth]

He's a guy at the end. They have one left. And that's what he's yelling from the end. It's a family.

[Andy]

Should I farrow do that?

[Seth]

It's a family yelling out the final category for Scary Moth.

[Unknown Child]

One at a time.

[Keith]

Andy, we wrote the verse and you did a temp.

[Andy]

Yeah, for Nikki's part.

[Keith]

Yeah. And we weren't sure because she is a real rapper who writes her own stuff, how she would feel about getting it. But she was also ready to be a pop star and liked it and was like, no, this is good. And just did it.

[Andy]

And I also remember, Keev, you experimented, as you always do, to try and do the, like, chopped up thing in vocals. That was really hot at the moment. The like, brrr.

[Keith]

And she was one of the main people doing it.

[Andy]

Exactly.

[Keith]

And so we were like, oh, let's put it into her style and do a bunch of Nicki Minaj style editing audio flourishes.

[Andy]

And you pulled it off famously, my bruv.

[Keith]

Hey, thank you.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Once we had her on and it was mixed, then we were like, oh, shit, now we better really believe in this one. But it was one of the few ones that because she was the musical guest, we used SNL money to do a more expensive video. And because it had to be that week, I also remember this. This is one of My memories from being on set with her. Is that because it was such a nice compliment. She was so new in it that she only had one or two music videos and they were bad and she knew it. And she.

[Andy]

It wasn't on set, Keith. It was when she was recording her part at Downtown Records and we showed her some of ours and she was like, why are your videos look better than mine?

[Keith]

Oh, it was there. I wasn't her looking at the monitor when we were shooting.

[Andy]

No, no. It was looking at a laptop of us showing her one of our other videos. I don't remember which one it was.

[Keith]

Okay. In my memory, I've moved it to us looking at the monitors on set.

[Andy]

I want to say we were showing her one of our big ones. Just in our minds being like, let's put her at ease so she knows we're legit.

[Nikayla Matthews Akome]

Right.

[Keith]

Probably showed her I'm on a boat or whatever. Or just in my pants.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Keith]

But she did say exactly that to her management.

[Andy]

Yeah. He's like, why is. They're joking and their video looks better than mine.

[Keith]

And I like.

[Seth]

Because we spent all your money on Bud Lights.

[Andy]

He said specifically that wasn't a real thing set.

[Keith]

But yeah, I remember being so flattered by that but also respecting her because we had watched her videos and be like, oof, her videos are bad. Look bad.

[Andy]

I didn't remember.

[Keith]

No, but they were just the very first little. I mean, she went on to make the highest levels Starships videos. Yeah, but like Anaconda is an amazing looking video.

[Andy]

How come? Why do you think that?

[Keith]

Not the butts. I don't even look at the butts. I'm just looking at lighting.

[Andy]

Me too. I'm like, are there butts in this? What great lighting.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Seth]

So wait, you think the lighting is great but you don't even notice what's being lit?

[Unknown Child]

It.

[Keith]

That's right.

[Andy]

Well, there's other things in the frame. Seth, you pig.

[Seth]

Sorry. Yeah, okay. Sorry. I'm a pig.

[Andy]

I'm sit this one out. I mean, whatever they want to do, that's their opinion.

[Seth]

Just because. And before we talk about. Did you see T pain's tweet? Because I'm gonna put it in the chat.

[Andy]

No. Which one? This one. The one you put in the chat?

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Oh, I see. I see. It's a mild spoiler.

[Seth]

I don't think so.

[Keith]

So now I know that Anne Hathaway plays a character who's worried about where her husband is.

[Seth]

Yeah. She's like, where's my husband?

[Keith]

And then Odysseus is us going, I'm on a boat. I'm on a boat. It's pretty good.

[Seth]

It's real good.

[Keith]

And then T. Pain wrote Poseidon. Look at me. I like it a lot.

[Seth]

Should we do a rewatch of the old Creep?

[Keith]

Oh, yeah, sure. I thought you'd never ask. All right, Seth, how many views do you think ours has?

[Seth]

Mm. The creep.

[Keith]

17 mil on our post with Nicki Minaj.

[Seth]

Oh, gotcha.

[Keith]

I'm gonna let you take that again.

[Seth]

Times 10. 170 million 120.

[Andy]

Well, now we're humiliated.

[Keith]

Yeah, that worked horribly in both directions.

[Andy]

Why'd you go so hard, Keith?

[Keith]

Okay, but now let's.

[Andy]

I mean, right out of the gate, we can't forget that we got John Waters to be in the video.

[Keith]

Oh, yeah, well, that's gonna come up right away.

[Andy]

Yeah. Okay, well, let's get there.

[Keith]

Should we. I mean, I don't think this thing has really hard laughs in it. It's. That's part of why we were a little unsure about it. But should we do the one with sml laughs, guys. Or this one?

[Andy]

Let's do with.

[Seth]

Yeah, with.

[Keith]

All right, here we go.

[Seth]

Hi, I'm John Waters, and this is the Creep.

[Unknown Child]

When you're out at a club and you see.

[Keith]

So how did we get that? Because that was a video ad. Right? We didn't have that before it.

[Andy]

Right, correct. Sorry. Not ad. Add. It was an idea that we had. We were talking about how our looks in the video were so overtly John Waters inspired that we were like, it'd be great to get his blessing, basically, because we're huge fans.

[Seth]

Obviously, you didn't think to get him until you were shooting the videos. And the looks were so John Waters.

[Keith]

Y.

[Andy]

Kind of. We hadn't really thought about the video as much when we were recording.

[Keith]

The album was still not coming out till May, and so there was a lot of loose ends on the album.

[Unknown Child]

So.

[Andy]

You know what, though? That's absolutely untrue. We did think about the look a lot because it's all in the lyrics.

[Keith]

Yeah. But we just hadn't reached out in any way to anybody, really.

[Andy]

Yeah. We didn't know we'd be shooting it yet. We didn't, at the time of writing it, know that Nikki would get on it.

[Keith]

As you know, Seth, SNL guests are often very last minute announced. So we only realized Nicki Minaj was even coming a few weeks before. And we're like, oh, shit, Nicki Minaj is coming. I also want to mention that My first daughter is three weeks old and I had no intention of coming into the show.

[Andy]

That's right.

[Keith]

Then all of a sudden it was like the guys were like, oh my God, Nicki Minaj is going to be on. And I was already a dad. And we were like, it has to happen. I was like, oh my God, Liz, this has to happen. So we like hired a night nurse for the first time because I was like, you need help and I'm going to be gone for four days this week and it's going to be crazy. And I remember it feeling crazy because I was like all of a sudden at work all night with a newborn at home.

[Seth]

And your night nurse had a crazy rider, right?

[Keith]

Yes. She needed a lot of weird stuff. Hers was all like, weird, like sex stuff, like, like dildos and things. Yeah, it's really weird.

[Seth]

Doesn't put a lot of confidence in it. But anyway, it might have been more

[Keith]

of a Gregory Isaacs night nurse. Am I right, Andy? She was the only one that could quench dis. Hear ter.

[Andy]

Terse. Yeah. No one else can quench disheartenurst.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Keith]

He was in San Francisco, I believe. We reached out just through SNL talent department, I assume. Just complete blind ask. I don't know if we sent a crew or if he had some local people he could use. Somebody went to his apartment or house, they set up a green screen, got a close up and he just said the line for us and then they just sent us the clip and we just had a little green screen of him and put him into this TV and we were overjoyed.

[Seth]

It's great. Seeing him makes you so happy.

[Andy]

I'm trying to find the email correspondence with him. That's why I'm sort of looking down.

[Keith]

It makes you so happy to see him. And it also like kind of just positions the whole video because it's a weird video about kind of pervy guys, creeps. And that's kind of his world.

[Seth]

Yeah, but like also like benevolent creeps.

[Keith]

Yes. Hopefully not actually crossing any lines.

[Seth]

Yeah. Hi, I'm John Waters and this is the Creep.

[Unknown Child]

When you're out at a club and you see a fly girl do the creep and do the creep. You want to make friends after atm do the Creep where we got a new dance. Soak it up on your feet. It's real easy to do and it's called the Creep. Let your hands flop around like a marionette Pop your knees up and vaguely.

[Keith]

Which southern rapper do you think you're kind of evoking? We don't do impressions. But we pretend to kind of to be there.

[Andy]

I mean, there's. What do you think?

[Keith]

There's so many. I don't know. But it feels specific to me. Not as specific as TI in no

[Andy]

Sex, but it's maybe a little more. Oh, fuck, I'm gonna get it wrong and be embarrassed.

[Seth]

But leave in two pack, right?

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah. Gotta keep two pack. Your cred in that department is fun.

[Seth]

Yeah. I mean, even if I pronounce everybody right, I'm such a distance fourth. I just feel like lean into it now.

[Keith]

I want to say before we even hear me, that I cringe at mine. A. Because I was trying to do an impression of somebody specific. And it might have been Lil Wayne on a very specific song, but no one can sound anything like Lil Wayne. And we always kind of have, like, different cadences and flows in our head that are kind of vaguely an amalgam of things. And we know none of us can actually do an impression, so it always just becomes us. But I'm doing, like, a weirdo because I was like, oh, I'll do a creepy voice. And I kind of hear it and think it sounds just kind of lame. And.

[Andy]

Well, I don't.

[Keith]

Well, you might not.

[Andy]

January 13, 2011. John Waters.

[Seth]

Great.

[Andy]

He likes the song and is interested. So when did this air?

[Keith]

Oh, so we did ask ahead of time.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Keith]

This is airing January 29th.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Keith]

So we got ahead of it a little bit, knowing it was coming, and

[Andy]

it was saying he's in San Francisco and could figure out a way to put himself on tape.

[Keith]

That's awesome. But we started knowing this was on the horizon.

[Andy]

Yes. And then I have an email with his whole schedule explaining why he couldn't be in New York.

[Seth]

So scheduling has been a big part of your life, even before the pod.

[Keith]

What kind of stuff did he have? Tell me about his schedule.

[Andy]

He was in SF till Sunday, then Baltimore from the 24th to the 26th, booked solidly each day. Tampa, January 27th and the 28th, then he's back in Baltimore. Jury duty, et cetera.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Damn.

[Andy]

He's in New York February 3rd through 8th.

[Keith]

He keeps it very real.

[Andy]

Yes, bro.

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[Yhorm]

My memory of tracking down John Waters is that we had to actually do this outside of snl. And I think that we did it through a crew from Caviar. Caviar is a company that represents me for commercial direction, acting. And this small little splinter crew was in San Francisco. And then they went over to where he was, like, at his hotel room, and shot this for us, but I believe we had costumes and makeup go over there as well. So it was, you know, it was a real deal crew, but I don't think this was through snl.

[Seth]

There's really no shame in giving away a famous person's schedule from 15 years ago. But then the jury duty thing, like, what if there's a guy. What if there's a guy who's like, death row right now, who's like, I got screwed. And now he's like, hold up. He's listening to this pod. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It was Waters.

[Andy]

And then we sent him a bottle of wine. Or he sent us one.

[Keith]

I'm sure we sent him one.

[Andy]

Anyway, I. I imagine John Waters just lapping up jury duty.

[Seth]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Andy]

Like, oh, this is the worst.

[Seth]

Yeah. I feel like he would respond to jury duty the way haters Keith Morrison would like.

[Unknown Child]

Oh. Ooh. Oh.

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[Seth]

all right, let's see you guys keep creeping.

[Unknown Child]

Now pull your waistband up like you expecting a flood and slick your head down.

[Keith]

This one's fine. That verse was fine. That was not the one I'm talking about. It's the. It's the later one where I change into, like, a different character.

[Andy]

One technical thing of note, I believe some of these shots are anamorphic.

[Keith]

Yeah, that's why the aspect ratio actually changes. See how it goes? More widescreen here, Seth.

[Yhorm]

Yep.

[Keith]

So we used anamorphic lenses because we wanted to get those lens flares like Hype Williams would do on his videos or basically because you can say jj. Well, isn't that timing?

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[Keith]

Yeah. Star Trek had already come out.

[Nikayla Matthews Akome]

Right.

[Seth]

I like, by the way, just for what I'm sure will be a yhorm thorn, is you guys are like. He had a verse, but it was great. We couldn't use it. And meanwhile, Keev's like, my second verse, I don't love.

[Keith]

Yeah, we could have erased my second one.

[Seth]

You're like, all these years later. I hate my second verse. Anyway, the problem with yhorm was it made it too long.

[Keith]

Listen, his might have sucked. His might have been bad. And Andy was trying to be nice. I don't. I don't know what to tell you. I can't remember. Can I go back to your form?

[Yhorm]

This is so funny. Listening to this.

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[Yhorm]

As we went, it just felt like it didn't need three people on it. That's the reason. So I don't think there is a version that has. I don't know if even I did a full verse. We started it, and then we were like, ah, it doesn't need it. So that's what happened. Nika's second verse is good. I definitely encourage them to get weirder. We. Andy did for sure. He's just. He's. He's just a little scared guy. Scared of being the accomplished rapper that he is. Trapper Seth.

[Andy]

No, that you're gonna get to keep second verse. And then we're all gonna be like, actually, it's great. It's so fun. I love his second verse.

[Seth]

It's so fun.

[Andy]

Okay, so we sent him a bottle of wine. So Seth.

[Seth]

Great.

[Keith]

That does make more sense.

[Andy]

He wrote back, thank you for the lovely, very good, totally unnecessary bottle of wine. I look forward to seeing it anyway. For a sneak, I guess I'd rather look like a perv than an asshole. I'm sure that was in response to something I had written. I'm sure it will be hysterical. And I love the song. John Waters. And we all, like, started crying.

[Seth]

He's so sweet.

[Andy]

The best.

[Keith]

All right, hold on one second. I found a creep with Andy, not Nikki.

[Andy]

Oh, well, let's listen and then we can decide.

[Keith]

Should we finish the song first?

[Seth]

Yeah, let's finish the song and then we'll.

[Andy]

A really good idea. Seth, you're such a good. You really keep a nice baseline. Hate myself so much.

[Keith]

This is one of the first videos we ever did where we had one big warehouse in Brooklyn.

[Nikayla Matthews Akome]

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[Seth]

Freeze frame right here.

[Keith]

Only one of us pop a freeze

[Seth]

frame on this one, Kev. So everybody can see where Kee.

[Andy]

Her faces in the video are making good, bad face faces.

[Seth]

And I think this is where I want to say I feel as though my memory was that YM had an equal amount in this song because the yeah is such a yes. And also, he's doing the most with this, too.

[Keith]

And you really aren't paying attention to who's doing what. We're all just together.

[Seth]

You're all just a bunch of creeps. It's a. Yeah, you're a trio.

[Andy]

We're a creep cluster.

[Keith]

I was going to say this is one of the only videos we did where it was all in one warehouse. Like, you can see these are like a backdrop of the beach where they pour some sand on the ground and then that little gold background with the anamorphic lens and blah, blah, blah.

[Andy]

So are the characters in the Song of the creep. Sex pests Hit us in the tittis and is that funny? Hit us in the tittis.

[Keith]

I'd say they are.

[Unknown Child]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Of course they are.

[Keith]

That's my personal opinion.

[Unknown Child]

I was six years old.

[Keith]

See, now you're a different guy.

[Seth]

I like how quickly you were like, are we sex pests? And the next shot was just a real.

[Andy]

Are we seeing what's behind your back, Keith? Is it like a. I think it's

[Keith]

just a backdrop of blue just to, like.

[Andy]

It's not what we're standing on. Or maybe it's a piece of the tree.

[Keith]

Yeah. And then the window frame. I think the camera's not locked off. It's like on the Steadicam still. So it's slightly moving to the left or something.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Keith]

So you feel the frame move it. The window frame moving while the tree is Bouncing with us. Now you're doing someone else here.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Keith]

I mean, it's cute, you know, you're almost doing Scarface.

[Andy]

Is that almost. Yeah, Kittis and the Titus. Who am I doing?

[Keith]

Yeah, is he doing Scarface or what?

[Seth]

The thing is, we couldn't let Yoram do a second verse because I had two voices.

[Keith]

That is right. And this song was done, By the way. That's that dance I'm doing. Whatever that is. This frame. I'm gonna go back a team more so you can see it. This is a quintessential what we're talking about. Just awkward. Yeah, whatever that is. Not that. That's it too. But this.

[Seth]

Yeah, great.

[Andy]

We like that. That guy's got some squirm in him.

[Seth]

Yeah,

[Andy]

I came out clean.

[Yhorm]

Yeah.

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[Andy]

Which translates to wearing a full suit.

[Keith]

Yeah, he came out clean. Not just with no fluids on me.

[Andy]

No, it wasn't a Sergio.

[Seth]

It's great. It's a great verse. Keev, you're wrong. I mean, I get it.

[Andy]

It's fine.

[Seth]

I get why you're. But it's great.

[Andy]

It's just a choice. You're having fun with it.

[Seth]

You're having fun with it.

[Andy]

All that matters is that Yorm didn't get a verse. You know what I mean?

[Keith]

His was like, hey, I'm also a creat creep. And we're like, that doesn't really fit.

[Yhorm]

I'm also a creep.

[Keith]

Who are you even doing? Are you doing. Trying to do Sinatra or. That's not really the genre Y Thorn is up, bud.

[Andy]

Hit us with them thorns, buddy.

[Yhorm]

Okay. Another Yorm Thorn. No, when I was doing my verse, I was getting weirder and again, encouraged you guys to be weirder, and it inspired a re record. So this is why Kivas in particular got way weirder. So I take full credit. And again, I wasn't upset about getting cut out of this one. This one. I also love you guys to remember that you. I keep. It keeps saying that I wasn't there because I full on was for all of this. Usually in any song that you hear, though, that. That is two guys and then third guys missing. Yes. That has been sort of like recorded without the third guy in the room usually. But that is not the case for this one.

[Keith]

All right, let's see Nikki here. Is that scream. I don't remember being in the song. That is that the.

[Andy]

The studio audience was amped.

[Keith]

Listen to this screen. It sounds. Sounds like a canned sound effects scream. It's perfect.

[Andy]

Sounds like the Sondheim scream.

[Keith]

Willem Wilhelm.

[Andy]

The Sondheim.

[Keith]

Sondheim. The Stephen Sondheim scream. It's the one he famously did at the premiere of into the Woods.

[Andy]

What is it? The Wilhelm screen.

[Keith]

Bernadette Peters was fabulous, and he couldn't believe it, and he screamed and went down in history.

[Andy]

It's the Wilhelm screen.

[Keith]

Yeah, there you go.

[Andy]

Scream.

[Keith]

Helm, I believe the Wilhelm scream is in Naked Gun for the Heads.

[Andy]

Where? Where?

[Keith]

When Danny Houston is flying through the air when he flies off the motorcycle and he's about to land in the fountain at the ending, and you hear this scream, and it is that scream.

[Andy]

Spoiler.

[Keith]

Another interesting scream is the film scream and scream 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

[Andy]

And obviously the painting. The Scream. Seth's favorite painting.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

He's always just like, painting gets me.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, if you wanted to sum up me, Seth Meyers, the Scream.

[Seth]

Remember how I always say, like, oh, my God, I wish it was f food because I would have munch for lunch.

[Andy]

You always say that.

[Keith]

He keeps reposting on his Instagram the scream. And then it just says, parenting.

[Seth]

I'm like, me.

[Keith]

He doesn't get the likes. He thinks, oh, the algorithm didn't get it this time. I must have done the wrong time of day, because it never.

[Andy]

He puts up the scream and says, tfw, you're trying to schedule da cast.

[Seth]

I've actually reached out to social media just at large about the algorithm and how I feel like it's overlooking that

[Keith]

something must have got messed up, because this deserves way more.

[Seth]

Hey, guys, could you take a look at this? Could I get some human eyeballs on this? And just what's going on over there with the algo? Do you guys know TFW is that feeling when. Okay, whatever. I'll just write it out next time.

[Keith]

All right, well, here's the scream. But the song is creepy. We could have had a scream here. It adds energy. It's good, is my point.

[Andy]

It's Halloweeny.

[Keith]

We should have added this exact scream into the actual song. That wasn't out yet.

[Seth]

I creeped in the boy's locker room

[Unknown Child]

Hide deep inside it was my little creep stalker room as they disrobed I was oogling and ogling Little did they know that for me they were modeling and I would laugh and they would dance so got your peepers in, out your sneakers, dork Sleep, come on, get your creep on with going to get to sweating off the pride at a wind do the creep and do the creep when you get you awake and you feel deep cake do the creep, do the creep when the judges are hiding you can't control your body do the creep and do the creep so get your knees flexing and your arms T waxing and free.

[Keith]

Don't forget to smile. That lady screamed two more times.

[Seth]

It was very exciting that you got T Rex arms in there.

[Andy]

Andy T. Rexen arms. T Rexing.

[Seth]

Yeah, T Rexing.

[Andy]

And again, a lot of our characters get arrested by the end of the video.

[Unknown Child]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Which I think is your way of saying, we know they're not heroes, they're anti heroes. If anything, they're antiheroes and they've received their comeuppance.

[Andy]

Yeah, they're going to just jail.

[Seth]

Yeah, they're going to jail. You don't have to worry about it. They're going to jail in the tittis.

[Andy]

They going to jail.

[Unknown Child]

Yeah, yeah.

[Keith]

I mean, they were already in court in orange murder suits. You know what I mean?

[Andy]

Hit us in the tittis. You think the charges stick?

[Seth]

Are they still in jail? 2011. Are they still in jail? Are they out now?

[Keith]

They're. They're out. They're out now.

[Seth]

But here's my question. Did they go back in?

[Keith]

One of their dads donated a sizable to a certain package political action committee just like mine, and they were released.

[Seth]

Andy just got up like there was a bee went in his shirt.

[Andy]

It felt like some kind of bug, I'll tell you that.

[Keith]

He's up in bug country right now. I don't want to blow up his spot, but he's up in bug country.

[Seth]

Yeah, he is in bug country.

[Andy]

Country living is the best.

[Seth]

It's very fun and it does feel like the three of you. And I like it. I like that about it.

[Andy]

So we are unable to find yhorm's lost verse.

[Keith]

Let's listen to this and then we can decide if it was worth it. Hold on. Maybe he has it, so. Oh, yeah. He probably plays it for all his friends. This is the supposed to be. Can you believe those guys? And I wasn't doing Sinatra, by the way. It was Jimmy Buffett. Hey, this is Andy's demo that. So this is what Nicki Minaj would have heard when we gave it to her. When I was a girl, I'd creep in the boys locker room high deep inside. It was my little creep stalker room. As they disrobed, I was oogling and ogling. Little did they know that for me,

[Unknown Child]

they were modeling and I would laugh

[Keith]

and they would dance.

[Seth]

La la la la la la la

[Keith]

la so pup pup Pup your peepers

[Andy]

and tweak out your sneakers don't sleep,

[Seth]

Come on, get your creep on with

[Unknown Child]

me don't get to sweatin'.

[Keith]

There you go.

[Seth]

It was very good.

[Keith]

You're doing kind of a spooky Vincent Pricey kind of a guy.

[Andy]

Yeah, I.

[Keith]

That is really rich, Andy.

[Andy]

Thank you so much. Cause did you know that Bill famously did Vincent Price on the show?

[Seth]

I knew someone did and I couldn't remember who. Yes, yes, it was Bill. It was Bill Murray Lane. Hello. I did it before he showed up. People forget we did that sketch before Bill got hired. Hello. Happy Halloween, everybody.

[Andy]

And now, Keev, do yours.

[Keith]

I told you before, Lolita, no boys. Nope.

[Seth]

That's the wrong one.

[Keith]

Know I was kidding. That was James Mason.

[Andy]

It was Mason.

[Keith]

It was a joke.

[Seth]

Hello. Yep. All right. Why am I Halloween?

[Andy]

Right?

[Yhorm]

Hallo.

[Andy]

I'm just going to go.

[Seth]

I'm going to go.

[Keith]

I've got the treatment here in my email.

[Andy]

Say words from it.

[Keith]

Let's see. Download, download.

[Andy]

Look, hit us with some creep cues. Yorm will be hopefully back next time and can get involved more. Yeah, we can talk more about the creep.

[Seth]

Yeah, of course.

[Andy]

It's an interesting one in that we always were like, it's fun. And then if you look at like the numbers, it really did quite well and that was a nice surprise for us.

[Keith]

Yeah, it's one of our bigger songs.

[Seth]

It's really beloved.

[Andy]

Yeah. So like if it was your wedding song, hit us in the Titus.

[Keith]

So we wrote Nightclub. Simple shot of girls dancing. Our three creeps creep in. That was the beginning there. So our nightclub ended up just being a black backdrop where we put smoke and lights.

[Yhorm]

Yes.

[Keith]

Atm. A girl takes out money. Our three creeps creep in. So true. That happened.

[Yhorm]

That's so true.

[Keith]

Andy. Verse 1. A TV dance party. Soul Train slash American Bandstand. Slash the Grind. Remember the mtv? The grind? Do I. Andy describes the creep to people. What do we want it to look like? 70s, 80s, 90s? That's a question on there. Cutaways, knees popping up and down, Chickening your neck. A red curtain setup. Andy is a marionette puppet with strings from his limbs, like in sync.

[Andy]

We got.

[Keith]

Got that Akiva verse. Akiva enters the set, pulls his waistband up. Cutaways, ankles expecting a flood. Yeah, we got this hair covered in mud. Pencil mustache being trimmed. Peepers popping. Oh yeah, this is a very clean treatment. And we really did check each thing off. Chorus 2 Beach backdrop. Girl laying on the beach. Our three creeps creep in.

[Andy]

Yep, she a country peach In a

[Keith]

treetop looking through bedroom window at girl. Maybe a set. Just a tree top and a window flat. And a bedroom flat, question mark. See, we're being efficient.

[Andy]

We believe you. Now let's go through. Is there anything we put on there that didn't end up exactly in the video? And then.

[Keith]

Uno momento. Checking.

[Andy]

This is good stuff. Don't you touch a frame of this. Don't you touch a single frame of this.

[Keith]

Here's a note for the Nikki verse. We were like. We knew it'd be a tougher order. We want some lockers she can attempt to get into even if she can't fit all the way. That's okay. Then we'll build the inside of a locker like a stylized version with some slats behind her and a towel, jersey, and helmet in it for her to perform in. So we were like. We understood it might be like, we're not going to stuff her in a locker. We need a fake locker that we create just to see her eyes peeping. Yeah, we really just did everything. And then at the very bottom, it says maybe one other performance setup. And that's what became the gold with the anamorphic. And it's not that long of a treatment because it's surgical, is what I would say.

[Andy]

Speaking of presumed heights, Nikki was shorter than I was expecting.

[Keith]

Yeah, yeah. She, Lil.

[Andy]

She, lil. She's like 5:2 or something.

[Keith]

That's what that movie Lil Nicky's about.

[Seth]

Oh, that's like a biopic.

[Andy]

That's some artistic license. Yeah. On the adaptation.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Keith]

I'm gonna give you one guess who's in Lil Nicky. And it has to do with this pod, this episode of this pod.

[Andy]

John Waters.

[Seth]

Jonathan Rhys Davies.

[Nikayla Matthews Akome]

That's it.

[Andy]

Oh, I said Jonathan on.

[Keith]

Yeah, you got it too.

[Andy]

Does that kind of count?

[Seth]

Yeah, sure.

[Andy]

Does it kind of count?

[Seth]

Yeah. As long as we can go back and re record my two pack that stays no matter how I die on that hawk. Just cut that in. And then I think I did it a third time.

[Andy]

There's no way that's going.

[Seth]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Hey, Jack Black.

[Andy]

Spelling bee.

[Seth]

This is a rough one for you today.

[Andy]

You could probably tell by how excited he was that I bailed. Three short.

[Unknown Child]

What? Not the bee.

[Andy]

And Seth. Got it with hints. But also list, maybe. Yeah, I listed, so I don't count.

[Seth]

I was actually. I meant to look to make sure that I kind of wanted to tell you what my. My what my list was.

[Andy]

What were your listers?

[Seth]

I mean. Hold on, give me one sec. I'll be there, I promise. Hold on.

[Andy]

Talk.

[Seth]

You guys just talk about something else real quick.

[Keith]

How many words is it usually on average?

[Seth]

Today was 48 words because I tried

[Keith]

it the other day because I have the games. I'm past the games paywall now. So I was like, I'll give a spelling bee a try. I got 50 words and I was still just that solid. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's a bad day.

[Andy]

Sometimes it's a lot.

[Seth]

That's a bad day. Okay. Those are days that you shouldn't even do. Would be. If that's the best I can do.

[Andy]

What were your listers, my man?

[Seth]

All right, I'm going from the bottom up. Papilloma.

[Andy]

Yep, that's one I didn't get tail lamp. Yep.

[Seth]

Lipoma.

[Andy]

Yeah, lipoma. I got tail lamp. I didn't get mailot.

[Seth]

Yeah, yeah, Myott. I was going to be maybe myott. Maybe softails there.

[Andy]

Is it mayotte or mailot?

[Seth]

I don't know. It's spelled mail out. But you know these words. I'm going from the bottom up. I did get to Tommy Tomatillo, Tom Impala on my own, so that's something. But yeah, at least four listers minimum.

[Andy]

Is it my lot? It's a woman's one piece swimsuit, so shockingly we didn't know it because that's our favorite kind of swimsuit to look at.

[Seth]

Right. Also, we've been getting updates and I'll see if I can get another one. Hamilton Whiteman, friend of the pod, has been updating us on his health situation.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah, I heard he was dying.

[Seth]

Yeah, he was dying. He licked a slug.

[Andy]

Is that what it was?

[Seth]

And yeah, that's what it was. But I just. If you want to send in a voicemail, just let us know. Is there anything we can do for you? Any final requests? You have any, I don't know, loose ends you need tied up, let us know. And I think the window of my podcast has closed.

[Keith]

A sweet little visitor.

[Seth]

All right.

[Andy]

Okay, for next time, Jesse Eisenberg host Mark Zuckerberg came on the show.

[Seth]

Oh, yeah, we have. I think maybe first.

[Keith]

Was this the triple Zuckerberg open?

[Andy]

I think so. And definitely a Herb Welch. There's some fun stuff to talk about.

[Keith]

Oh, wait, wait, wait. We got a. Hold on. There's an audio clip here. Here's a transcript of the New York Times ad. Are you ready? Hi, I'm Sam Azerski and I create the game Spelling Bee and letterboxd on a daily Basis. And I have this thing called promesthesia. I see color when I'm listening to music. I'm Tracy Bennett. This is the second person. Yeah, you be Tracy Bennett.

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[Seth]

I get to pick the wordle every day, which is not as easy as it sounds. The fun fact about me is that I'm descended from a witch who was put on trial and stuck.

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Salem.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Keith]

Amazing brag, Andy B. Joe Fagliano.

[Seth]

He probably has a really heavy Italian accent.

[Keith]

Yeah. Do it like Luigi.

[Seth]

Do it, Luigi.

[Keith]

Do it like Luigi.

[Andy]

Amazing. And I'm Joe Faggiano. I created your daily mini crossword. I've been making these apuzzles for the times for over 10 years now, which is like a 3000 minis. I am a beg in the universe for any new five letter word.

[Seth]

Excellent. But then he said, what's everyone's fastest mini time? And someone says, four seconds.

[Keith]

So it is.

[Seth]

Somebody said one of them probably Sam. And then he says, I'll go find it. I have my screenshot somewhere.

[Andy]

I don't understand how it's physically possible.

[Keith]

I don't think there's a fuck you, Andy in there, though.

[Andy]

Yeah, there's no fuck you, which is disappointing. Obviously.

[Keith]

It is implied.

[Seth]

I mean, it's implied. If you say you're doing it in four seconds, he's saying, fuck you, Andy.

[Andy]

Oh, my God.

[Keith]

I think it'd be a good test. Learn how to do it on a computer. When you just type the word hit enter and it automatically goes to the next one. Do a Mini where you know it all memorizes. Memorize it and then try to do it again because it's just typing in five words in four seconds. You can definitely do that.

[Andy]

I don't know how you can do a Mini a second time unless you have like a whole other.

[Keith]

Well, you'll just go on.

[Seth]

I'll just tell you what it is.

[Andy]

I do the Mini the second time, I'm a burner.

[Seth]

You got those Lester Freeman wire phones, right?

[Andy]

That's right. Just so I can get one on Wordle. Check it out. All one. I get it right every time.

[Yhorm]

In one.

[Andy]

I don't know, I can't explain it.

[Keith]

I get it right every time.

[Seth]

All right, love you, dudes.

[Andy]

Love you. Love you. Later, Arnold. Later, Quaid.

[Keith]

Later, Emily in Paris or Voir Quades.

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