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J.J. Lieberman
Fill her up.
Ryan Shaner
You're listening to the Gas Digital Network. Wake up, it's time to go. Zach and Miko's got a show. Animals are here to play jokes against you Start your day till the sandman no more sleep Eat some eggs and cook some beef Laughter's waiting, don't be shy Stretch your leg, Touch the sky Grab a coffee and join the crew. It's Zach Amico morning, too.
Zach Amico
Wake up, wake up, wake up. Good morning, fuck faces. It's your old pal cousin Zach. Welcome to the morning goddamn zoo. This could be a fun day. I'm happy I got two guys across the table for me who I happen to love very, very much across the table from me. You guys know and love them. It's J.J. lieberman.
J.J. Lieberman
Yo, what's up, baby?
Zach Amico
How you doing, buddy?
J.J. Lieberman
Great, dude.
Zach Amico
You've been fucking popping out, popping off lately. Yeah. People get a lot of attention, and I would like to let you know, well deserved. And you're a very funny guy and I'm really happy for you.
J.J. Lieberman
Thanks, buddy. 1212 years. Finally a little fucking taste of old.
Zach Amico
Little piece of cake for the chipper, right?
J.J. Lieberman
Taste. Until they find out you've been doing some fudgeing deviant shit. You don't want to get too big. You want to be like. You want to get like.
Zach Amico
You should have told me that a few years ago.
Ryan Shaner
Where were you, dude? You want.
J.J. Lieberman
You want to get, like, to like, where nobody really knows you except people in comedy. See, something's going on, but you don't want to get diddy big.
Zach Amico
No, no.
J.J. Lieberman
Then they come after you.
Zach Amico
Yeah, no, I'm happy. I. I'm very happy with. If I get recognized at the airport once, I'm like, you know what? That's what I wanted.
Ryan Shaner
That's pretty great.
J.J. Lieberman
It's a nice life.
Zach Amico
Yeah. Just a night. Hey, how are you? Have a nice conversation. Appreciate it. Thanks very much. Enjoy your flight.
J.J. Lieberman
Well, Most people, they'll see me, they'll go, hey, what's up? I'm like, yo, what's up? And then they walk away.
Ryan Shaner
That's best case scenario.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, it's pretty good. Pretty good.
Zach Amico
Next to him from the end of podcast as well as now World War Fun with Sidney Gantt. It's Ryan Shaner, buddy, thank you so.
Ryan Shaner
Much for having me, Zach, my absolute pleasure.
Zach Amico
You know I fucking love you dearly. Let's get plugs out of the way because I've been forgetting to do them. So, jj, what do you want people to check out? My friend?
J.J. Lieberman
I was actually coming on because I had a show here next week in New York, but that sold out. So Naples, Florida, next month, July 6th. And then me and Che D Arena have just dropped a podcast called Two Goons and that should be out literally next week. So some of the biggest porn stars.
Zach Amico
We'Re interviewing and yeah, very, very good, Mr. Shaner.
Ryan Shaner
You can check me out on the end podcast. Wherever you get your podcast, make sure you call the hotline, 833-443-5300. And also World War Fun with Sydney Gant, wherever you get your podcasts as well. And check out the Good boys. We're going to be in Pittsburgh June 7, tailgating. We're gonna be at the Pittsburgh Improv and also tailgating the Pittsburgh Pirates and Philadelphia Phillies baseball game. And then June 21st, Sydney and I will be at Souljols at 7 o' clock. Check that out. And this weekend, if you're listening, I will be with John Moses at the Harrisburg Comedy Zone.
Zach Amico
Very cool.
J.J. Lieberman
Friday, Moses is the man.
Ryan Shaner
He's the fucking dude, yo. You know Moses?
Zach Amico
Yeah, he's great Toronto guy. Yeah, yeah, very good.
J.J. Lieberman
I'm always a Toronto guy.
Zach Amico
Very, very good man.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Zach Amico
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Ryan Shaner
Yeah, dude.
Zach Amico
All right, what are we looking at here? Okay, Kevin Costner sued by Horizon stunt double over violent unscripted rape scene.
Ryan Shaner
Whoa. Kevin Costner raped his stunt double. His stunt double or a stunt double?
Zach Amico
I think we're gonna need some details because I am unfamiliar with this, but Mr. Costner.
Ryan Shaner
Jesus Christ.
Zach Amico
The postman always does ring twice.
Ryan Shaner
It was a real water world inside of that guy's eyes.
Zach Amico
Fucking him. It's like dancing with wolves. All right, Shannon, tell us about it.
Shannon
So this is the stunt double for the leading actor, actress in the film, which is Ellen Ella Hunt.
Zach Amico
Okay.
Shannon
This is what she looks like. If you just want to see what the actual actress looks like.
Zach Amico
Oh, okay. It's her stunt double.
Shannon
Yeah, her stunt double. So she said that she wasn't ever told about this scene, that she wasn't prepared for it, there was no intimacy coach on set, and she felt violated by it, and she's now suing him and the production team for. For this.
Zach Amico
And he's the actor in the scene?
Shannon
I don't think so. I think he's the director. Let me just double check. But it also says. It says she's suing for an undisclosed amount and wants a trial by jury.
Ryan Shaner
So she. They just sprang this sex scene on her, and she had no idea that it was gonna happen?
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, no, I don't. I don't trust. You could always tell by people's looks who's gonna be a little troublemaker on set. And you could tell, like, a couple of her haircuts that.
Zach Amico
Well, that was the girl. She's the stunt double for.
Ryan Shaner
That was the girl.
Zach Amico
Oh, here's my thing. If you're a stunt double in a sex scene, you got to go, they must be doing something pretty wild. The sex scene, she needed a stunt double.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, it's more like a double is what that is. Dude, you got to. You got to. Really?
Zach Amico
So the thing that doesn't make sense to me here.
Shannon
This is her.
J.J. Lieberman
That's.
Ryan Shaner
That's the stunt double.
Shannon
Yeah.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, damn. She's good looking too.
Zach Amico
Oh, yeah. No, but she's. Oh, yep. Dark hair, light eyes.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, that's how it goes, man.
Zach Amico
Devlin Labella, go to that pic second from the bottom. Next one over. Nope, other way. Other way.
Ryan Shaner
The one where she looks like Morisha Adams.
Zach Amico
Yeah, the one where she looks like Marilyn.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, that one.
Zach Amico
There we go. Yep. That'll your life up.
Ryan Shaner
That'll really you over.
J.J. Lieberman
Dude, is that their whole career is. They don't even act. They got into probably acting, and then they're like. They get kind of typ. Casted as stunt doubling.
Zach Amico
No, some people do both.
Ryan Shaner
Some people really get into stunt Work like they really, really enjoy it.
J.J. Lieberman
I met, the only time I ever did, I did Rookie Blue. It was a show, the cop show. And. And I was like. Because I used to umpire in baseball, so they gave me like a special. Whatever. You're not an extra. You get like the higher rate. You're a special.
Zach Amico
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Featured background character.
J.J. Lieberman
Feature background character.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, yeah, it's a great title.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, it was something like that. You get a little. You get double the money or whatever it is. But there was like a professional stunt guy and he's like, dude, he was the coolest guy on set because he's like driving the cars. He's doing all this stuff like that.
Zach Amico
So what you're talking about being a feature backer? I have a few friends that do that for a living.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, big money.
Zach Amico
And so my buddy Abraham, who I believe Shayna you might have met.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, I think so.
Zach Amico
And he, he knows every fucking little loophole in every scene. So like that rain machine goes on, he knows his bump, that fuck if there's smoke in the scene. He knows, he knows how much extra he gets. He's got a stopwatch going. If they go a minute over.
J.J. Lieberman
Minute over.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, that's.
J.J. Lieberman
That's what happened the first day. We're in overtime. We did like 14 out. Cuz it was a two day shoot. 14 hours. And people were like, yo, we're getting paid. Yeah.
Ryan Shaner
How much you get paid an hour for that? Like, do you get like an hour?
Zach Amico
Well, there's scale okay. For sag and non sag.
Ryan Shaner
Gotcha.
Zach Amico
When you're sag, it's pretty goddamn nice.
J.J. Lieberman
So there are people that are sagging that do this. So if you're sagged just as an extra, you make good money.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
So if you're just a regular extra on the, in the. Whatever that is, you're union, you're making good money. So now if you're a special service, whatever it is you're making.
Zach Amico
So my friend Abraham's thing is he's.
J.J. Lieberman
I think that's what they call it in Canada.
Ryan Shaner
I appreciate that, dude.
Zach Amico
My friend Dave, he's a magician and he does clown work.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh.
Zach Amico
So they'll bring him in to be a magician in the background. But he's like, I got all my tricks on me and one of those motherfuckers makes me touch a card. That's another $500.
Ryan Shaner
Damn.
Zach Amico
Then that's a special. Then he's featured featured extra with something specific to do.
J.J. Lieberman
And he gets to work with kids.
Zach Amico
It doesn't Hurt.
J.J. Lieberman
Doesn't fucking hurt at all.
Ryan Shaner
Does he ever make black people run away when he does card tricks? He's like, do you get more money?
Zach Amico
That's what I hire him for.
Ryan Shaner
Do you get more money for them?
Zach Amico
Like, that's how I get the reference. I get the riffraff out of my shows. I have him outside doing magic.
Ryan Shaner
That is one.
Zach Amico
He's creating a perimeter.
Ryan Shaner
If only cops knew magic, you know?
Zach Amico
So, yeah, my. My issue with. And maybe this girl was taken by surprise. Whatever. But sex scenes are usually closed sets.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
So when she saw everyone leaving.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, yeah.
Zach Amico
And they went. This is a closed set. And it was also rehearsed. This isn't a found footage movie.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
In fact, I bet there's a script.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. I just. I don't really understand.
Zach Amico
I think this is. Lady didn't read the itinerary.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. She skimmed through the page.
Zach Amico
Yeah. I feel like she just saw that she was on the call sheet.
Ryan Shaner
She's like, I can be there.
Zach Amico
All right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I can turn. Yeah. All right. I'll get up around 8.
Ryan Shaner
Sounds fine. I saw Ooh and ah. And I thought I was getting I stub in my toe. I didn't know exactly what I was doing.
J.J. Lieberman
So they. They did. So what was the aggressiveness?
Zach Amico
Yeah. Is there any more?
Shannon
So it just said. So I think I said this before, but she said that it was unscripted and unscheduled. That it was sprung on her last minute, but that. That's it. It doesn't really say what happens. It also says that the Costner's attorney. But of course she'll say this. But she said that she's a. A serial accuser.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, no.
Shannon
And that she believes this has no merit. But I guess we'll see how it plays out.
J.J. Lieberman
Women be shopping, women be accuser.
Zach Amico
Yeah. You never want to hear that. You never want to get a. You never want to be the girl who cried rape. Like, because when it.
Ryan Shaner
Actually, no one's gonna believe you. No one's gonna.
Zach Amico
It's always like. You ever meet a girl who says her boyfriend's abuser?
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
It's like three in a row. And you're like, I don't think so, dude. That fourth guy is gonna beat the shit out of her.
Ryan Shaner
Wild. There was.
Zach Amico
If you put that mojo out in the world.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
If you're the girl. It's like, he would.
Ryan Shaner
It's called manifestings.
Zach Amico
Yeah. It's not one Manifesting, definitely Emphasis on.
Ryan Shaner
The fist on the end of that.
Zach Amico
Yeah. It's one manifesting.
J.J. Lieberman
Well, I side with Costner. Makes great baseball movies. And his. He's got pretty good swing. Like if you see him in Bull Durham and you know.
Zach Amico
Yeah, no, I completely agree.
Ryan Shaner
Great job. Do you ever see A Tin Cup?
J.J. Lieberman
Yes. That was amazing.
Ryan Shaner
The part where he hits the. The. The golf ball. That was done in one take. No, that was done in one where.
J.J. Lieberman
He threw it up with the shovel.
Ryan Shaner
And they didn't know that he was gonna do that. They're just like, hit the golf ball. He's like, yeah.
Zach Amico
Oh, okay. Actually, that's a good argument for that lady.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
If cast is a little things out, he's a little loosey goosey on set. I don't know if you've seen 10 cups.
Ryan Shaner
I like to throw things around. I'm sorry.
J.J. Lieberman
That was an outstanding movie, by the way. I've only. That was a one shot for me.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, I don't think I've ever watched. I don't think I've watched it again. Yeah, I think I only watched that one.
Zach Amico
The other one take things I've read about the pizza on the roof and Breaking Bad was one.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, when he threw it up on there.
Zach Amico
Yeah, one take because they had to get a pizza that was uncut because they wanted it to land in a circle.
Ryan Shaner
That's amazing.
Zach Amico
And they said they had a whole pile of pizzas and he did it on the first one.
J.J. Lieberman
Wow.
Zach Amico
I think the other one is. It took forever. It took all day. But the Toby Maguire, Spider man catching all the food on the lunch tray.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, my God.
Zach Amico
Is a real practice.
Ryan Shaner
He really. He really did that.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, yeah.
Zach Amico
You know I'm talking about wild.
J.J. Lieberman
Yes, I know that.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
That I think they said was like a hundred takes.
Ryan Shaner
I think the funny thing is when there's something that seems really simple, but then they do like 400 takes of it. The. In Home Alone where little Nero's the pizza driver hits the. The. The jockey out front. He does that almost 50 times. No, they can't get the take right. And he's hitting it too hard. It's flying off the thing up the bumper on that car so bad they had to have three replacement cars.
J.J. Lieberman
That is the most embarrassing thing.
Zach Amico
It's never the thing you think it's going to be that fucks your day up. It'll be like somebody. I remember one movie, it was a lady opening a bottle of pills and she had to land the label. Exactly. So that you could read it in the shot.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, man.
Zach Amico
And dude, it was like a Half a day she would open it and you would just. It would be half the thing, half the thing. It would go one. It just never fucking works.
Ryan Shaner
You would think they'd be able to just fix that in post with CGI now. Like they would just put like a green screen on the label.
Zach Amico
Just please, just fucking remember the quality of cinema.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, yes. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Zach Amico
Zach, please, please remember most movies it's I, I am accepting a minimal amount of money to be on set with a 40 year old man whose producer is his mother.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
You're an artist though.
Zach Amico
Yeah, yeah, I'm a whore.
Ryan Shaner
Zach's been in four unscripted rape scenes in movies. He is a, he's seasoned.
J.J. Lieberman
He didn't meet to anyone. I have a buddy who's out in Florida with me last week came by to the house we were doing some stuff at and he was telling me this is, you know, sometimes a new guy is in porn. So the two things that happens with one, he can't get hard and then two, gets too excited, he nuts too early, so he has to again, which for me, dude, I'm one round, I'm done for the rest of the. I'm actually good for like honestly a month now. Yeah, yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't need to.
Zach Amico
You're a Kamel.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, yeah. Damn.
J.J. Lieberman
But so could you imagine your first time on set? You're someone you nut too quickly, you're too excited and then they have to like fluff you up for an hour to try and get the scene.
Zach Amico
So one of my favorite porn site searches is premature really. And it'll just be outtakes of the girl being furious because now she's just watched her day get fucked up, right?
J.J. Lieberman
Because she, she.
Zach Amico
So she'll be like acting like she loves it. The dude comes, she's furious, but she can't waste the come either.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
And so you get to watch a range of emotions.
Ryan Shaner
I feel bad for all the special background actors in there too. You know, they were trying to make a lot of money. The featured background actors, like, come on, man.
Zach Amico
Yeah, like the guy that's got to be George in the Seinfeld parody Nobody Fucks George stands in the background craving.
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Ryan Shaner
Did you wait? I never saw. I saw clips of the Seinfeld parody.
Zach Amico
It's James Dean, I think.
Ryan Shaner
Did they. Did they.
J.J. Lieberman
Was it.
Ryan Shaner
Did George get.
Zach Amico
I would assume maybe George. George might have. I don't think Newman got any pussy, so I would assume that was. I would assume it was Jerry Kramer.
Ryan Shaner
Definitely. And I bet Putty Putty, maybe not Uncle Leo. Uncle Leo doesn't make a fucking surprise.
J.J. Lieberman
So James Dean was Jerry? Yeah, dude. I saw Johnny Sins last week. Dude is fucking Yokes.
Zach Amico
Shannon, that's one of your boys, right?
Shannon
Who is it? Sorry.
J.J. Lieberman
Johnny Sins.
Shannon
Oh, I do. I do like him. But I actually really liked Kisses. I feel like she was the most stunning porn stars I met. That's who. I think they used to be married Kisses.
Ryan Shaner
Really? Oh, she kept the name.
Shannon
So I was trying to find that Seinfeld porn. Is this the one you guys are talking about?
Zach Amico
Yeah.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, wow. Man, this is the porn.
Ryan Shaner
They did a really good job with the set.
J.J. Lieberman
Holy.
Zach Amico
I mean, Elaine's Puerto Rican, but.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
Look at the shot, the angle.
Ryan Shaner
Everything is sexy but not cheap. I know.
Zach Amico
I got hard just from the FBI warning.
J.J. Lieberman
Pretty good.
Zach Amico
The laugh track is hilarious. The fact that somebody had to sit and do a laugh track on board is really funny.
Ryan Shaner
It's got to be refreshing, though.
Zach Amico
This is kind of awesome.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
What a brilliant idea.
Zach Amico
Three men watching porn.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, man.
J.J. Lieberman
Hey, man.
Ryan Shaner
Not just porn porn. The. The highest grossing sitcom porn of all time.
J.J. Lieberman
Did this do well?
Zach Amico
I don't know. I haven't seen the box office. I haven't. I haven't. I haven't done the research on it. I'll shatter.
Ryan Shaner
The box office is real hairy.
Zach Amico
Yeah. Shannon get it. Who shaves box office?
Ryan Shaner
It was a shaved box office, dude.
Zach Amico
I don't know, but I'm sure. I'm sure it was popular.
J.J. Lieberman
That's. That. That was like. Yeah, the set.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
Amazing.
Ryan Shaner
They did a really good job.
J.J. Lieberman
The best someone should have.
Zach Amico
Can you look up the Pee Wee Herman porn parody?
Ryan Shaner
Is he fucking. Is he fucking the sofa? Is he fucking Jerry?
J.J. Lieberman
No. Guy jerking off.
Zach Amico
No, it's a. It's a parody of Pee Wee's Big Adventure.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, okay. Okay. I thought it was Pee Wee's parody.
Zach Amico
And it is my good, close, personal friend Tommy Pistol, who you will recognize from many a parody porn. And I would say this might be his. His coup de grace in cinema. Yeah.
Ryan Shaner
Citizen Kane.
Zach Amico
His porn. Peewee is so good.
Ryan Shaner
I can't wait to see it.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah. I'm surprised they don't do more of this.
Zach Amico
No, there is.
J.J. Lieberman
Really.
Zach Amico
What's. What is it? What's the rule? That. If you could think of it, there's Rule 34. Here it is.
J.J. Lieberman
Holy.
Zach Amico
Good morning. Good morning. Here on Gas Digital.
J.J. Lieberman
This is unbelievable.
Ryan Shaner
I really appreciate the knot, the Segways. It's just Peewee doing stuff and then straight up.
Zach Amico
Hey, Evan, stay. It's Triple H. I believe Evan Stone is Francis.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, all right. That makes sense.
J.J. Lieberman
I didn't know there were black people in Peewee.
Zach Amico
That's Cowboy Carl. All right. We don't have to sit and watch this.
Ryan Shaner
Great way to. Just kidding.
J.J. Lieberman
Zach. Zach Amico's morning porn review.
Ryan Shaner
Morning Goo, dude.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Zach Amico
Yeah. So that's. That is my good buddy, used to do sketch comedy. I was talking about him the other day because we were talking about the Dried angel harpoon parodies. And he's the guy in all those.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, great.
Zach Amico
And he's got the. The most Horrifying. So I only found out very recently that this new generation of porn stars, old school guys don't have a lot of respect for him.
J.J. Lieberman
Really?
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
Why is that?
Zach Amico
They're on the juice.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
The pill. That and then the injections.
J.J. Lieberman
So. So that's what I was talking to Alexis Fox about this. So many guys get their dick injected and. But what happens is you get it injected and it stays hard. You have to get it injected sometimes to get it down. Like you have to what? Yeah. So they fucking pump your.
Ryan Shaner
Fuck that.
Zach Amico
Yeah. Yeah.
Ryan Shaner
That is crazy.
J.J. Lieberman
Well. And what happens is your dick eventually stops.
Ryan Shaner
I was going to say there's no way. There isn't long term effects of that.
J.J. Lieberman
Well the problem is once you start taking. I use a dick pill for special occasions. First time when you.
Ryan Shaner
I got to impress this.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, you got to impress. Yeah. First time, first time I bring it out for like a superpower so I can get the second time. And I don't care if someone doesn't me after the second time.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, you're like done.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Zach Amico
Yeah. You got to, you got what you needed out of.
J.J. Lieberman
I got, I got what I needed.
Zach Amico
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
I'm not going to fuck them. Great. So and then, so the first time. So maybe they tell their friends unlikely event, but maybe. And yeah. And other than that, never. Never.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. I don't know if I could take until I used to. Every now and again like Mike Randy would get Blue Chew sponsors and he's like, yeah, have some blue. And like the first time I took one I was like, all right. Yeah, this is all right. But then I was like getting. I don't know how it happened. I was handed Blue Chew by Mike Rainey. My phone must have known because then I was getting updates for like load enhancer to make your cum super voluminous.
J.J. Lieberman
And I work with a company like that.
Ryan Shaner
Does it work?
J.J. Lieberman
I didn't take it long enough.
Ryan Shaner
I was gonna. You'll probably only take that on holidays. Not just.
J.J. Lieberman
Well, I think, I think the problem with a load enhancer is you have to take it all the time. And I just, I don't need to be fucking shoot. I'm more in the grind mindset than the fuck mindset. I rather like create as much content as possible then chase or ass. So I don't care if I'm shooting massive load. Some guy, I guess, I don't know.
Ryan Shaner
But you know, you'd rather shoot it than not need it, than need to not shoot it. You know what I mean? I, I, I Respect.
Zach Amico
It's like having a gun.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. You know?
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Ryan Shaner
Second amendment.
J.J. Lieberman
But yeah, I mean, it's just like. It's like zinc and some other. So the main ingredient zinc in a lot of these.
Ryan Shaner
Can you just, like, put it in, like. Like a. A morning shake or something like that?
J.J. Lieberman
Or you could do whatever you want.
Ryan Shaner
I guess you could.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah. But also, like, the company I work with, pop star, they do, like, flavor. So it's supposed to. They so not only get big loads, you get flavorful loads. It's like this fucking doctor who does this. It is so funny. Imagine going to med school to, like, create a load enhancer.
Zach Amico
The poor people that signed up for that fucking marketing test, that. That corporate. All right, so what you have in front of you is three vials marked.
J.J. Lieberman
A, b, and C. It's a blind taste test.
Ryan Shaner
Ye iPhone is like, I'm gonna go this one.
Zach Amico
The Pepsi challenge.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, that is. That is very. That's very crazy. Even being a doctor, she's been like, yeah. Setting out, like, you know what? I'm gonna cure cancer. I'm gonna help kids with cerebral palsy. It's like, no, I actually found my niche. Well, and it's making load flavors.
J.J. Lieberman
I mean, they tell me, you know, maybe they're just sales guys, and I believe them. They tell me people come back to them saying how happy they are and how their lives have changed. I mean, I guess I don't dribble come out of my dick. So I don't know. But maybe if it kind of like. Maybe.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, maybe you go out, you know, I'm guessing you want, like, a Super Soaker 300 down there sometimes. Fucking spray.
Zach Amico
I. My comment dribbles out like my dick had a stroke. If I want to come on a girl's face, I have to be, like, behind her. It's awful.
J.J. Lieberman
Would you take it then?
Ryan Shaner
Would you take it? Would you take a load. Load enhancer?
Zach Amico
For what?
Ryan Shaner
I don't know. Just.
J.J. Lieberman
I agree.
Zach Amico
I listen. Ask my check if my check was like, you know what? I need more come. I'm so sure.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
But also, I think it's the truth about it. In theory, more cum seems great. In reality, Sharon, can you confirm nobody's happy? Like, if you're doing, like, fucking Peter Norris stuff, I promise you, nobody's happy.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. Especially if he gets on something you like, you know, like, it ruins a girl. I can't look at you the same way.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah. I don't I too much.
Ryan Shaner
Come on.
J.J. Lieberman
I think there's, like, less than 1% of the population that love it. And then everyone else, it's just.
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Ryan Shaner
Yeah, you a bib or a wet nap?
J.J. Lieberman
Which one?
Shannon
You know, I don't, I don't care. It doesn't really.
Ryan Shaner
You don't care?
Shannon
No, I mean, I guess like in, in like a. I'm trying to remember. I guess like in like long, like a long term relationship, they like make it a thing where it's like, oh, look how much. Whatever he'll be like. And be like, wow, it's so much.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah. Oh, my God. He probably shoots massively.
Zach Amico
I'm surprised he's not covering the room with that one. Oh, wow. Look at it.
Ryan Shaner
The level of enthusiasm. Oh, man, it's so. There's so much there.
J.J. Lieberman
A lot.
Zach Amico
That's what comes.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, wow. What is that? Oh, yeah. You did okay.
J.J. Lieberman
Great job.
Ryan Shaner
Watermelon.
J.J. Lieberman
Amazing.
Zach Amico
Yeah. So Tommy's my friend. I think I've told you this before. He, he made a movie based on this, but he fell asleep with the. The pump on?
J.J. Lieberman
No, the dick pump.
Zach Amico
So he was in his. He had a trailer. They, they broke. So he was, he had his dick one of like the, the Swedish penis and larger pumps from Austin Valleys. Austin Powers is a movie for people who haven't seen it starring Mike Myers. And if you don't know who that is. And he fell asleep in his trailer and he woke up like an hour later and he had a giant blood blister on the head of his dick.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, no, dude, he had a shoot.
Ryan Shaner
Damn.
Zach Amico
And he.
Ryan Shaner
That's like having a pimple for the prom, dude. You can't do that.
Zach Amico
He went up to wardrobe and asked for a sewing needle.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, no.
Zach Amico
And he lanced it himself.
Ryan Shaner
No, you gotta.
J.J. Lieberman
Dude, I used. Have you ever pumped?
Ryan Shaner
Have I. No.
J.J. Lieberman
Have you ever used.
Zach Amico
I don't think I've ever used. Oh, you know what? Yeah, I have.
J.J. Lieberman
You used a pump.
Zach Amico
Yeah, I tried once.
J.J. Lieberman
I used to early 2000s use them all.
Zach Amico
Well, that was the style at the time.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, yeah, it was the style you.
Ryan Shaner
Can get away from.
J.J. Lieberman
I, in Baltimore, a guy gave me a 200. So he saw me stripping. I used to strip In Baltimore and D.C. he saw me stripping at the fucking club in Baltimore. I went to the sex shop. He gave me a 201. And it was great at first, but then what ended up happening, it was like, it had like a valve and everything. One of my nuts would you pump so hard it would get sucked into that. Even though you would have the, the basing the cock ring on it would still create so much. And it was incredible. It was fucking phenomenal.
Ryan Shaner
That sounds were.
Zach Amico
You just. Did it just find more decade?
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it made it because I've like, I'm girthy. I think it made a difference because I was pumping all the time.
Ryan Shaner
How many times, like, would you use it? Like every day.
J.J. Lieberman
Every day. It was amazing. And I was like playing baseball at the time, so all my Dominican ridiculous. No, but all my Dominican roommates loved it.
Zach Amico
Pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump.
Ryan Shaner
It looks like he's got three balls coming up.
J.J. Lieberman
They would literally, they're like, he pumping right now. Like they're standing outside the bathroom door. I was rooming with three Dominican guys. They would literally. Because everyone would come over, he go, he ping in the bathroom.
Zach Amico
Yeah. The guy's 35. He's got a birth certificate that says 16 in crayon. This guy's weird. He's doing weird with his dick in there.
J.J. Lieberman
But yeah, I, I, but it was like, yeah, it was a real thing in the early 2000s. I don't hear of anyone using dick pumps Anymore.
Ryan Shaner
Well, now they got the injections.
J.J. Lieberman
They got injections, which I never heard.
Zach Amico
Let's, let's, let's price out a. A dick pulp here.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. What's the best. What's, what was the name of the brand?
J.J. Lieberman
I don't know, but it was. I, I do recall it was $200.
Ryan Shaner
200 bucks.
J.J. Lieberman
Shannon, if you went to a guy's house, would you care if you went into his like, closet? He has some nice shoes, nice shoe rack, and then in the corner there's a big dick pump. And he's got a good dick though. He's giving you good dick? Oh, a little more enthusiast.
Shannon
Yeah. I don't know. It would be. It would be weird. I think I would. I wouldn't love it. But like if everything was going great sexually, I guess I would.
J.J. Lieberman
And the shoes were nice.
Shannon
Yeah, that's. That's good.
J.J. Lieberman
He has a nice shoe rack in the closet.
Shannon
Yeah, I guess I can look past it. Here's. I looked on shopping for dick pumps. Here's what came up.
Ryan Shaner
$15. First one 69. That's.
Zach Amico
Oh, I mean, I. I need to see this $501.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Zach Amico
That one has handlebars.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. What is that one? Is that because you're losing control of your dick? It's some point. What is that?
J.J. Lieberman
So that is proven. The stretcher ones. We actually had a company that wanted to work with skanks. What the stretcher thing are real. But bro, you have to be at it. It's like women who are trying to create lactation. So you can organically create lactation if you're a woman. But you have to pump for four hours a day. Same with the dick stretching. You have to stretch every day. You have to leave the thing on. Like the way they make their necks long in Africa. You can make your folk.
Ryan Shaner
Is it kind of like lactation? Like if I'm around another guy using a dick stretcher, my dick will start to stretch too. Like I'll just find a note. That's happening.
J.J. Lieberman
Community.
Ryan Shaner
Stretch, Stretch.
Zach Amico
Can we, can we see the one with handlebars? I want to know what that is and what it does.
Ryan Shaner
What? Yeah, what does that do you play.
Zach Amico
Excite Bike with it?
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, it looks. That just looks fucked up, dude.
Zach Amico
That. See that looks like torture.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, yeah, that's. You leave it on. For what it's worth, we had a dick stretcher sent here. It was like a five hundred thousand dollar dick stretcher sent here. Someone took it at Gas Digital Network, I believe it. And Nobody knows who it is.
Ryan Shaner
Nobody knows.
J.J. Lieberman
Did you take it, Jorge? You fucking ugly orange hair. Oh, no, there's not much to work with anyway. It'd be a waste for me. What do you mean?
Ryan Shaner
That's somebody with a dick stretcher would say.
Zach Amico
I am willing to bet.
J.J. Lieberman
He'S got his fucking alibi.
Ryan Shaner
Knew it right away.
Zach Amico
Unless it was one of the vagabonds that's only here for like two months and creates chaos and then gets fired.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, I guess that is it.
J.J. Lieberman
I blame it on the fucking Filipino.
Zach Amico
Oh, you know what? I literally think we could. We could get it all the way. The list all the way down to Robbie, Tom, Paco.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, yeah. Oh, Tom. To Tom.
Ryan Shaner
You.
J.J. Lieberman
Even if Tom. I wouldn't be shocked if Tom had a big dick because he's got to have a good quality about him.
Zach Amico
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
And I bet even with the big dick, he would still be like psychotically still. Fucking stretch. Like, sometimes I'll beat off with a fucking. This is the other time I take a dick pill. I'll take an edible and half of Viagra. If I'm trying to do four hour goon session. Like, this is like once every few months. Yeah, Treat yourself, Treat yourself.
Ryan Shaner
I'm trying to do a four hour.
J.J. Lieberman
I'm trying.
Ryan Shaner
I appreciate it.
Zach Amico
You're pushing yourself on the books.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, I get what you're doing.
J.J. Lieberman
I could see Tom from Gas just with his big dick, just. I'm going to stretch it more.
Zach Amico
I know when Tom drags off, he looks like Beaker from the Muppets.
J.J. Lieberman
But yes, Paco, for sure. Fucking using that dick pump.
Ryan Shaner
Wait, so with the, with the stretcher, like the one with the handles is that you like corkscrew that onto your dick and then pull forward. What the fuck? How do you use that mouth? Like silicone rubber grip. Fantastic.
Zach Amico
Oh, yeah. No, whenever I get a good blow job, I'm like, oh, baby. Your mouth's like silicone rubber so great.
Ryan Shaner
That your mouth's like a fucking corkscrew on my right now. Amazing. This does seem like torture.
J.J. Lieberman
It's torturous.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
I just don't get how you can put that on and not run around the house going, vroom, vroom.
J.J. Lieberman
There is.
Zach Amico
I am not mature enough to have that in my house.
Ryan Shaner
It's pretty good.
J.J. Lieberman
There is a point.
Zach Amico
Let me try to run over the cat.
J.J. Lieberman
I'm coming through. I got a basket dick getting bigger. There is a point. With some of these contraptions, I don't know how I have that animal of the shrine I don't know how women feel because, like, women have. I dated someone who had all these, like, weird things in her side drawer.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
And I'm like, how do you. Like. I have these two auto blow pumps. One's a thousand dollars. That the guy. I don't know if you've seen it, if he said, yeah, you plug it into a wall.
Ryan Shaner
Sure. That's a hardwired one. That's. That's for serious shit.
Zach Amico
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
But there is a thing where you're like setting up and you're like, I'm going through this whole routine just to nut. It's pretty crazy.
Ryan Shaner
It is crazy.
J.J. Lieberman
And then I'll put it away and just put it under the bed. I'm like, I'm not doing this for.
Ryan Shaner
A long time, man.
J.J. Lieberman
That's the same thing.
Ryan Shaner
And now you. You. So you have two. You said you have two Auto Blow ones.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, the guy sends me all the.
Ryan Shaner
He said. I was gonna say, like, getting them for free is one thing. Yeah, buying two is crazy. That's crazy.
J.J. Lieberman
No, the one. The one that plugs into the wall, it weighs 15 pounds. Honestly. 15 pound. 15 pound auto blow. And it has its own knapsack too. So you're like.
Ryan Shaner
So you can just carry around like the cool kid at school.
J.J. Lieberman
I went. I met a. I met a guy off Grindr right before.
Zach Amico
Hello, fellow goons.
J.J. Lieberman
I met a guy off Grindr right before. I went to Austin six months ago. And I was staying at. Now where I live, I just moved back Eric Freddy's place. And I said, I'll pay you 100 bucks. Let me use the auto blow on you. And he's like, totally cool, right? Like, sent him the picture, sent him a video. So I go there. But then fucking Eric Freddy, they were so amazed by this thing. They plugged when I was gone. They plugged in, but they. They packed it back up without the jack. So I showed up at this guy's house with the. Yeah, no, no, fuck it. So we had to go analog or what?
Ryan Shaner
Bicycle wheels.
Zach Amico
Oh, yeah. Yeah. You had to go back to.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Zach Amico
Taking over the fryer at McDonald's after it's been automated.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
Brutal.
Zach Amico
Yeah. That would be like if you. If you were the manager of a restaurant and your host is gonna show up that day and you gotta start taking over the books again.
J.J. Lieberman
Well, and I gave him the hundred dollars first before. And so it wasn't. Yeah. And so it wasn't working. So he's like, do you wanna just jerk me off? I'm like, no, that's. That's too gay for me. I just wanna see you nut in my blowjob machine and let me go home.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, man, that's like putting together a sniper rifle and finding out you don't have ammo. Just doing all this stuff like.
Zach Amico
Ah.
Ryan Shaner
Nah.
J.J. Lieberman
At the. At the. You're at the range on.
Ryan Shaner
I have nothing now. Did it.
Zach Amico
Did.
Ryan Shaner
Well, did he appreciate the effort that you brought the auto blow. Did he appreciate the effort?
J.J. Lieberman
At least we still got off.
Ryan Shaner
All right.
Zach Amico
Come on.
Ryan Shaner
That's all.
J.J. Lieberman
Look at this.
Zach Amico
You go all the way there for nothing.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. You know, you got to do something.
J.J. Lieberman
Turn a little morning zoo into a By guys throwback.
Zach Amico
Yeah, absolutely.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah. Just for.
Zach Amico
Yeah, just. We do enjoy it. We throw back all sorts of kinds. Yeah, we're going to soon and we'll.
Ryan Shaner
We'll do it back more like it.
Zach Amico
We'll probably play some of the old By Guys games like Guess the butthole.
J.J. Lieberman
Well, that's the problem. As soon as I start talking about gay stuff, you can see, like, I don't. I like comments. I never get bothered by comments. But people hate them.
Zach Amico
Oh yeah. They really don't like it.
J.J. Lieberman
They. I think they don't really don't like me.
Zach Amico
No.
J.J. Lieberman
No.
Zach Amico
Shit comes out. I was telling Shannon the other day that there's a video of me and Gene Simmons that like got posted again. And I'll tell you, these black folks. Not a fan of the Jews lately.
Ryan Shaner
What?
Zach Amico
Dude, pretty aggressive.
Ryan Shaner
Where has this been, Zach?
Zach Amico
Pretty.
Ryan Shaner
Where has this been?
Zach Amico
Pretty aggressively been living under a rock. I mean, real.
J.J. Lieberman
What was the. What was the main. Do they. You know, it's amazing what's never been adapted. I say this on stage. I left as soon as they started digging tunnels. I'm out. Like, I can't be a part of that anymore, you know? No, it's minority behavior. Like digging tunnels and like living underground. So. But that nobody calls the Jews the tunnel diggers, which I think is so funny. Like, why not? It's like so obvious.
Ryan Shaner
I mean, it's right there.
J.J. Lieberman
It's right there. And also, you can't get in trouble. You could look at that dirty tunnel.
Ryan Shaner
It's actually what they were doing. You know, it's like. It's what they. They did dig.
J.J. Lieberman
I know.
Ryan Shaner
It's. It's right there.
J.J. Lieberman
It's so embarrassing too. Like, there's enough. It's enough. It's enough that my people are cheap and they're like, you know, they can be a lot. They could be a lot. They Control the weather. What else is. What else is another.
Zach Amico
Okay, and I've said this before, the media, they're just. I am, I am very, very down with the run of the mill J's.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Zach Amico
Cool by me.
J.J. Lieberman
Me.
Zach Amico
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Zach Amico
I'm a runner. Just, just my same. My buddy Abe, great guy.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Zach Amico
It's when they start to get a little secular.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
That's the. They breed out the likeability.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Zach Amico
And then you meet hot. I mean, the more you fly, if you can fly every week and not be a little anti. Acidic, I'm impressed. Because, man, they're a lot in the sky.
Ryan Shaner
I could only imagine.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, why? Just seeing one. Fucking doing the.
Zach Amico
No, they fucking.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, they.
Zach Amico
They travel in fucking impacts. Oh, yes. Giant packs.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Zach Amico
And they all buy seats all over the plane and then try and sit together, that is. And throw the whole plane off. And they always have babies, so they always get on the plane first and they try and call territory. Do I see a pattern?
J.J. Lieberman
Pretty good at it though, to be honest with you.
Zach Amico
And yeah, I would say that that could be a little. But also realize. Yes. Have you taken the annoyance of the regular J and mixed it with the weirdness of Amish? That's not going to go good.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what saves a show after people hate hearing gay sex is hating Jews. Saves show.
Ryan Shaner
It's definitely like, you know, just Mentos in the coke.
J.J. Lieberman
You know, everyone's on board.
Ryan Shaner
It's.
J.J. Lieberman
Everyone's on board now. This is. This is crazy. I. I don't care. I don't give a. Because I have my own. Like this detest towards my own people. But I. I wish it's never been better time to be like.
Zach Amico
I thought the test was you throw a quarter on a ground and see.
J.J. Lieberman
If they pick it up. Ryan was telling the story. He has a fan like that calls into their Patreon that the black Israelites throws pennies at him when they see him on the train wearing the yarmulke, which is the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, that's what they call this. Detest. I detest you. I'm detesting you right now.
Zach Amico
I have. My buddy Stefan is Arab, but he looks like he's got the beard and everything. And he's been mistaken quite a few times. And one time we were on the trade, the black Israelite was doing something and he went to Sifad and the father just waved him off. He's like, oh, I'm sorry, Shalomo. No, really, I've been calling my friend Shlomo.
Ryan Shaner
That's pretty fucking good for 20 years. Shlomo is an amazing name.
Zach Amico
I call him Shlomo Stefanowitz. I've been calling him that since I am 17 years old. I am 37.
Ryan Shaner
Shlomo's a great.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, Shlomo's a great name. They have some.
Zach Amico
I don't think I've ever called him Stefan since then. I've only called.
Ryan Shaner
Fucking. I've only met one real Shlomo in my entire life. And when he told me that, I thought it was a nickname.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Ryan Shaner
And he was just like, no, it's actually.
J.J. Lieberman
They have like, Moishy.
Zach Amico
And I met. I met. I met a Shlomo. To the second power. Shloimy shloimy. S H L O I M Y Shloimy hers. Shout out Shloimy hers. Fan of the podcast. And that was. I've told this before. I apologize. I was on the train and I had on a Manson family shirt. And, you know, you kind of forget sometimes they leave the forehead on those.
Ryan Shaner
Whoops.
Zach Amico
Whoops. Whoopsie doodle.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. Hey, egg on my.
Zach Amico
But I'm just. I'm just, you know, goofing being me. And some old guy just starts fucking going off on me. Why would you wear that?
J.J. Lieberman
Really?
Zach Amico
Screaming at me on the train. And I was like, I like true crime.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
And he's like, you would win. And then he said screaming at me. And then I turn and then I get a tap on my shoulder and I turn around and it is a entire Hasidic family. And the guy goes, are you Zach Amico, the comedian? And I go, yeah. And he goes, ah, I'm such a big fan. We came here to New York for vacation. I met Honey, we met a celebrity.
Ryan Shaner
And all the other Jews. Back to it.
Zach Amico
Dude, I fucking had merch on me. I gave him one of everything.
Ryan Shaner
Hell yeah.
Zach Amico
I gave him patches and stickers and pins. I was like, thank you so much. I side shit for him. And, dude, I just smiled the whole time at the first guy. And then he added me on Instagram.
J.J. Lieberman
And he's like, schlemmy the credit to the Jews. And you get it when you perform in Brooklyn. Yeah, a lot of them love comedy. I bet they do a lot of, like, the very religious. There's a guy in Baltimore when we did last year, he was like, big time, like, lawyer. Wears the whole fucking get up and everything. And at the show, loves it, hung out with us after, you know, they just have a dark sense of humor. I think because of the grandparents that.
Zach Amico
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Ryan Shaner
Yeah, I made a mistake. It's funny. You were talking about wearing the Manson family shirt. I was helping my buddy Dan. He did a huge art project for a synagogue. And he's a regular J. And we were going in and I was not paying attention. I was wearing a vest that had a slayer patch on the back that said Slutanic war mocked. And he was wearing the German helmet. And I just was not. You know, I'm just like wearing a jacket. I'm not thinking about being a guy, just being a regular dude. And I walked in, we're walking through the synagogue, and he didn't. He just didn't think about it either. And all these Hasidics are like, what? Like you can hear them mumbling and talking. And then a guy came, he's like, we're gonna have to ask you to take. I have a couple questions about that. The jacket. The jacket. Just the jacket. I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, warm up. And I was like, oh, fuck. I was like, I'm sorry. My buddy dad's like, no, it's. It's cool. He's a. He's a good dude. He's actually got a really funny podcast. Just look at the podcast.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, it's fine.
Ryan Shaner
What is craz though, is he said, well, what's the podcast? And he told him the name of it. We went Back the next week. And the guy I came in and he's like, hey, very funny stuff. Very funny stuff.
Zach Amico
I love that, dude.
J.J. Lieberman
It was.
Ryan Shaner
Everything that I had done was completely absolved. It was so great. It was so great to hear that.
Zach Amico
Shannon, can you look up? I watched the thing the other day. Lemmy's knife collection.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, yeah, dude.
Zach Amico
Have you ever seen the tour of Lemmy's apartment?
Ryan Shaner
Dude, he loves the swastika.
Zach Amico
Still people in Lemmy, dearly departed front man of Motorhead, dude.
J.J. Lieberman
He was a legend, eh? Yeah, Best like. No, no, dude. When he died, so many. I had no. I. I'm not like, really into that kind of music, so I didn't realize how legendary.
Zach Amico
Like, you know, he was. He was. He was mean prick, but he really. But he was cool.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. Very particular.
Zach Amico
He did not want to hang out. Yeah. In my experiences with him, he could be a little touchy.
J.J. Lieberman
But was he a New York guy?
Zach Amico
No, he lives in London.
Ryan Shaner
London. Oh, yeah. Look, dude, he.
Zach Amico
Dude, this guy, he lives in a tiny apartment.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
And he just played video poker all day at the bar, dude.
Ryan Shaner
He loves casino stuff, dude.
Zach Amico
Yeah. All right, so, yeah, play. Do you have. Is this a video or a picture, by the way? This is a.
Shannon
Sorry.
Zach Amico
Hugely successful man.
Shannon
Is this. It's being dubbed in a different language. Right, sorry. Want me to mute it?
Zach Amico
No, yeah, yeah, you can mute it.
J.J. Lieberman
Was this a fan of the art of it or the Aryan race?
Zach Amico
He dresses into the art. Yeah, he would dress up a little.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, he liked the hats. He had a couple of hats.
Zach Amico
He had a couple questionable hats.
Ryan Shaner
Couple. Couple questionable pins and stuff.
J.J. Lieberman
When he would perform.
Zach Amico
Oh, yeah, no, just in. He just wear it out.
Ryan Shaner
No, he loved walking around in regalia, like a.
Zach Amico
It's just always funny, whatever a place is like, oh, he's a World War II enthusiast. Yeah. You never have to go. I wonder what side it's always.
Ryan Shaner
It's always German.
J.J. Lieberman
It's not the British.
Ryan Shaner
It's never the British. It's never America.
Zach Amico
Yeah, no, no. It's like, I have a huge collection of World War II British.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. All you have to do is like, what's he like?
Zach Amico
Ah.
Ryan Shaner
Really? In World War II, you're like, oh, okay.
J.J. Lieberman
Wow.
Zach Amico
The fact that. That just. He's fucking in this tiny apartment, dude.
Ryan Shaner
The knives on the wall are just.
Zach Amico
Oh, yeah, that's the wall. That.
Ryan Shaner
That's all. Is that all? Hitler Youth daggers.
Zach Amico
Yes.
Ryan Shaner
Jesus.
Zach Amico
He's got, like, all.
Ryan Shaner
He's got. Got him.
Zach Amico
Got him this. In this footage, he goes To a guy to get one fixed. And the guy's like, yeah, Levy fancies himself a. A knife craftsman, and he'll bring stuff in, and it's pretty bad, but, you know, I fix it for him.
Ryan Shaner
You know what? He's a regular swazaholic, that guy.
Zach Amico
Hey, just living it up, baby.
Ryan Shaner
You know, that would have.
J.J. Lieberman
Him and Kanye would have done a probably sick Collab. Eh. The 2000.
Zach Amico
No, he definitely was not.
Ryan Shaner
No, he wasn't. I wouldn't even say he was. He was just like, yeah. How do you describe someone who's that into white nationalist World War II memorabilia and be like, no, he wasn't racist.
Zach Amico
No, but there's, like, clips. Like, I remember he did a Q and A once. In one of the letters, it was from a black kid being like, hey, I'm black, and I like your music, and people make fun of me. And he goes on, like, a rant. He's like, yeah, absolutely every. My music's for everybody.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
Like, he was like, I have no hate in my heart type of deal. I think he just. The estate. I think he liked offending people.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
And I think he enjoyed the aesthetic.
Ryan Shaner
But when it comes down to it, we all can say, like, the Swans.
Zach Amico
They'Re well dressed people.
Ryan Shaner
Come on.
Zach Amico
It's Hugo Boss. Yeah.
Ryan Shaner
They're the most fashionable when it comes down to, you know, military outwear. Come on.
Zach Amico
I mean, the. The. The spiked helmet. It literally looks like a Mario.
Ryan Shaner
Amazing.
J.J. Lieberman
Do you never watch the. Do you ever watch the North Korea? They do their military parades. They're amazing.
Ryan Shaner
Military parades are wild.
J.J. Lieberman
The North Korea ones, like, the way they dress, the way they walk, like the. The. The legs going so high. And the uniforms, because they'll have, like, different uniforms for different brigades or whatever. And I'll watch like, an hour of the. They have them on YouTube for, like, an hour, hour and a half, and Kim Jong Un's just sitting there, and they just walk around. People are cheering. It's quite. In terms of, like, aesthetics.
Zach Amico
I. I have a. I have a buddy who took a tour of North Korea.
J.J. Lieberman
No.
Zach Amico
How to get a separate citizenship from, like, this little country. Basically, it was a country so small you could buy citizenship. That's for a set price.
Ryan Shaner
Damn.
J.J. Lieberman
So they were doing that up until. So after Covid, they. They had, like, no Covid cases.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
Because they completely locked down anyone who's out.
Ryan Shaner
The urban nation, dude, they're not gonna look at the size of them hats.
Zach Amico
Shop. Right. Does the can. Can. Oh.
J.J. Lieberman
I mean, this is. Look how they walk. I mean, isn't that amazing?
Ryan Shaner
I mean, flying in formation with the seventies, pretty sick. That's.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Zach Amico
So my buddy went, he, he had to get citizenship for another country and you're not allowed to sell.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
Anything.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
And he said everywhere they went, they would just talk about how much food there was and then there wouldn't be any. Like, oh, we have so much food. Everyone here eats so much with too much food. We have. And then just nobody had food. And he's helping because I guess they did a presentation in the town he was in, in like a giant arena.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
And all the people in the town had to memorize this flag dance. And he said, you're driving around doing the tour and every family would be on their lawn practicing because they were all so afraid to be the one who fucked up the dance.
Ryan Shaner
You gotta do that.
J.J. Lieberman
No, no. People on the. Like, I was watching, I watched a lot of like the travel vloggers. There's a lot of times they'll be like going to North Korea. So they were letting them in recently and then they stopped letting them in. No people on the streets ever. And then they. This one guy went to a grade school talent competition and basically all the songs were translated. How great the leader. How great leader is. So the basically singing songs about.
Ryan Shaner
It's very propaganda. Yeah, it's so propaganda. But it's like in that way. I kind of wish, like every time I see a military parade, I'm like, man, it would, would it be sick to see an American military parade?
Zach Amico
Oh, we're getting one.
Ryan Shaner
Come on, dude. I, I know we're getting one body. It's gonna be fucking wild. I'm hoping, I'm hoping when they do it, they, they disclose like some kind of weird new spacecraft or like aircraft.
Zach Amico
Oh, they premiere.
Ryan Shaner
Yes.
Zach Amico
Like Santa at the end of the Thanksgiving.
Ryan Shaner
Yes, dude. That's what I'm hoping for. Because this whole thing where they've been talking about like alien disclosure and like, yeah, we were in and out of it. If they're like, yo, here are rockets, here are fucking military. Yo, here's this fucking ufo.
Zach Amico
And now here, you know, no one's going to. No one knew about this but me. Time traveling hovercraft. This is what we've been working on.
Ryan Shaner
It's just a spray painted delorean. He's like, I'm going to go back in time the most time. I can't wait for that.
Zach Amico
Great doctors Doc Brown. Doc Brown, my good friend Doc Brown, who promised me that you can go back and fuck your mother.
J.J. Lieberman
Do you think they tell him if they have it or. No, they don't tell what?
Ryan Shaner
Tell Trump if they have a time machine.
J.J. Lieberman
Well, the alien stuff. Oh.
Ryan Shaner
So here's the thing. I don't think. I think a lot of the stuff with the aliens, honestly, is a very big misdirection. I think they're. They're telling you how much you. You think you want to know or how much they actually know. And what they're doing is they're giving us bits and pieces of things, and they're keeping it so compartmentalized that when the actual information is released, we won't either care or it'll be so off the deep end of what we thought it was that we're just gonna, like, not.
J.J. Lieberman
Well, Rogan said a good point.
Zach Amico
Wow.
J.J. Lieberman
He said if they start telling you aliens are real, that means it's not, you know?
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. It could be a whole misdirection.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah. Yeah. I. I think that's a pretty.
Zach Amico
I think we don't know a lot about what we know because they're so afraid of how little we understand.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Zach Amico
That they can't admit, like, oh, there's a bunch of. We know, but we don't know how it works. Like, they've openly said. And some of that declassified stuff that, like. Oh, yeah, there is something we don't understand that's been communicating with us.
J.J. Lieberman
What do you. What do you think? Like, so Area 51, which I assume has now, whatever they were studying there or doing there, they do. Something moved. They've moved.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, without a doubt.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, they've moved it somewhere. But what do you. Do you think they were testing military stuff or do you think it was, like, properly, like, the Bob Lazar alien stuff? Both things.
Zach Amico
I would assume whatever we picked up at Roswell was there.
Ryan Shaner
Well, there was.
Zach Amico
And that is just going solely off Independence Day.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, I saw a small. I mean, using movies as a basis. Dude, it hasn't. I've been using Terminator 2 as a basis for the rise of AI, and it's been syncing up pretty.
J.J. Lieberman
It is crazy. Oh, my God.
Ryan Shaner
So you can use movies as a basis.
J.J. Lieberman
I say we have five years, by the way.
Ryan Shaner
Five. Five years until the wipeout or five years till they're completely in control of just themselves?
J.J. Lieberman
Until they're in control of, like, mediums like this.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
Well, I think we're. I think the way. How quickly. How old are you?
Ryan Shaner
I'm 40.
J.J. Lieberman
Okay, so we're I'm a little bit older, so when I was in high school in 1999, nothing like this existed. That's when people were first starting like, you know, kind of like in the library. There was like Internet. But even me as a 19 year old kid, I was like, what the fuck is it? You know, I mean like people weren't really synced in. Three years later, everyone's. And now it's just. Dude, you can't even. I was just walking, taste. First day back in New York, walking out of the train. People are just walking on the street with their head in their phone. I think like the advancement from 25 years, in the next five years it just goes hyper crazy.
Ryan Shaner
I think it's.
Zach Amico
Didn't you just pay a dude to get blown by a robot?
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, of course I'm, I'm on board with it, but I mean I like the direction it's going, but. Sorry to cut you off. The aliens, I was just like.
Ryan Shaner
But I do, I do agree with you. I think I've always been one of these dudes who is, I would say like a retro futurist. I guess that's the best way to describe. I love how advanced we are, but I also think there should have been a cap on it.
J.J. Lieberman
Yes.
Ryan Shaner
I think we should have recognized things like, you know, you watch Terminator 2, all of that warning is there, everything's been there. And then we start like. I think one of the biggest downfalls we ever had as a society is broadband Internet. If we still all had dial up, we wouldn't be able to see or do half the things we could do. However, we wouldn't have AI as advanced as it is now.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, I don't know.
Ryan Shaner
I don't think we would.
J.J. Lieberman
I don't know. There is peace, like, you know, getting off the grid for two days. Oh, dude. When you get off the grid and like go into the woods. I'm being serious. It's some. It's fucking amazing.
Zach Amico
Cruise ship is like that too.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. I can only phone.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh yeah.
Ryan Shaner
Is.
J.J. Lieberman
I mean the people on the cruise ship probably suck, but the.
Zach Amico
Yeah, but the idea is being away from the phone. Well, I'll go leaving your phone in your cabin.
J.J. Lieberman
I'll do. I'll do cruise ship. This is the only time I would do cruise ship. If it's one of those culinary. I've heard there's a few culinary cruise ships where it's like, I thought you.
Zach Amico
Were saying colored cruise carnival.
Ryan Shaner
He's not wrong.
J.J. Lieberman
Is it really?
Zach Amico
They love it.
Ryan Shaner
It's crazy.
Zach Amico
They love it. Yeah. I told Rob Cruz he wasn't to start getting booked in black rooms. He should change his first name to Carnival.
Ryan Shaner
Wow, dude, that is perfect.
J.J. Lieberman
I have a buddy who does cruise ships and always takes like a video and posts about it. Like, after sets. He'll post the video in the cruise ship gig. Like, I wouldn't show anyone this. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be like, is this a flex or what? What's going on here? He's like, we here tonight. I'm like, what the Going on wild. Like, you know, like, that's like, like equivalent. Like, I did a show last week and I didn't sell many tickets. It was Sunday night in Tampa and they moved it to St. Pete. And there's like, you know, it was fine. It's 40 people. But I gotta.
Ryan Shaner
You gotta getta hype yourself up.
J.J. Lieberman
I'm not going like this. And people are like, what?
Ryan Shaner
Use force perspective to make it seem like there's more people there.
J.J. Lieberman
Wait, wait. This guy. This guy lost money on a gig.
Ryan Shaner
Yo, we out here, though.
J.J. Lieberman
We out here losing money. Nobody buying merch. Everyone's 18 and 19 years old.
Zach Amico
Yeah, well, since we're talking about A.I. we, actually, Shannon provided us with a story that I want to look at. If you're not sure whether you're hot, ask ChatGPT because it's brutally honest. Quote. I guess I needed to hear it. So let's get our feelings hurt.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. Yeah.
Shannon
Who wants to go first?
J.J. Lieberman
I'll go first.
Shannon
Who said I wasn't looking? Jj.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, JJ said I know how I look, though.
Shannon
All right, I'm going to just show you the picture that I'm using first.
J.J. Lieberman
Can I get the one where they turn me black?
Shannon
Oh, this is the picture I'm using.
Ryan Shaner
That's a good one.
Shannon
Okay.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, you're smiling. You're smiling.
Shannon
Good one Second.
J.J. Lieberman
You guys wearing the same shirt?
Zach Amico
Let's. Let's see. And we'll do me next and shaner last so we'll end on a positive one. You. Hey, like, I didn't like hearing that.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, what a chocolate bastard.
Zach Amico
Could you can chuckles over there?
Ryan Shaner
Wow.
J.J. Lieberman
Can I do one less of a smile because I have nicer lips than I do have teeth.
Zach Amico
Well, let's see what it feels about that one because that was a silly picture.
Shannon
Oh. So hold on. Initially I said, can you. If I put give you a picture, can you tell me if the person's hot or not? It says, yes, I can do that. And now I posted this. And he said, I can't judge whether someone. I have to think of a different way to say it.
Zach Amico
Was it just. What does it say in the article?
Shannon
It said that it will, it will judge and it's going to be honest.
J.J. Lieberman
What about on Grok? Could you do it on Grok?
Shannon
Let me just ask a different way.
Ryan Shaner
I think you're just going to get a picture of Lemmy holding up a knife. It's like, yeah, this is what I feel about this, dude.
J.J. Lieberman
I actually have one. I have an editor who's doing one of the high end versions of AI it's not, it's not. This costs like 200 and something a month.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, wow.
J.J. Lieberman
And I get them to do like my posters 1. I'll tell you, actually, the truth is people on the Internet hate it. Like when I, When I pay. When I post like a. Like I was doing a show in Tampa.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
I post a Tampa flyer that was done by AI and I thought it was amazing. And people were like in the comments, you, you're gonna lose followers like that. I mean like you, you fight it. But then I'll look at Fat Fellas season. You know that?
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, I know exactly, dude. People love that. I.
J.J. Lieberman
Have you seen Fat Fellas?
Zach Amico
Oh yeah.
Ryan Shaner
It's amazing.
J.J. Lieberman
That to me is incredible.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
But also too, isn't that like an artist that's like playing guitar and then hearing the electric guitar and going, now, now, you know, you're like, well, this is it, dude.
Ryan Shaner
I think, I think it's more like with AI art, I'm not, I'm not against air, but I am against. I'm. Again, I guess what I'm against is I'm not against people using prompts to make it right. I'm not against that at all. What I am against is as AI gets more advanced, AI will start making its own art. You have to. I think a lot of people aren't looking at like the slippery slope of like. And I'm not saying it'll eventually be sentient, but if we're going on the trajectory that we're on now, eventually. Because what we're seeing with AI art is we're seeing you're giving it prompts and then it's interpreting what you're saying and making it art. So basically what you're seeing is that a robot's dream. You're watching a robot think about what it. It's like unpacking what you gave it and then giving you back what it thinks it is. Eventually what you're Gonna see is that because of all these prompts that are putting it in, it's learning. It's gonna learn what these things are. And it's like, you know, one day I just wanted to do this.
J.J. Lieberman
Well, I mean the, the AI. As stupid as it looks, the AI delivery of UberEats, it's just four wheels.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
That is literally the first wheelbarrow. Yeah.
Ryan Shaner
In the AI. Yeah, definitely.
J.J. Lieberman
It's going to be, I'm telling you, in five years. What that. Well, the Waymo in Austin, I take Waymos all the time.
Ryan Shaner
Is that the self driving car?
J.J. Lieberman
It's exponentially better.
Zach Amico
That's how he describes his sexuality.
J.J. Lieberman
Waymo.
Shannon
I have the results. Oh, wait, you guys are ready.
Ryan Shaner
Ooh, results.
Shannon
Okay, so it's pretty positive. And then I have. And then I asked it for areas of improvement. So it says first, as far as your smile and energy, that your smile is big and expressive, which gives off very approachable. Approachable, high energy and confident vibe.
J.J. Lieberman
That's what I'm trying to do.
Shannon
Fitness and grooming. The individual appears to be in good shape and has a clean, well groomed look, which tends to read as a health conscious and put together person.
J.J. Lieberman
Who am I going to come in.
Shannon
Now and then style. The T shirt and casual vibe of a relaxed everyman appeal. Not trying too hard, which some people find appealing.
J.J. Lieberman
Just an everyman who goes on Grindr once a week.
Zach Amico
Some of the areas he'll blow every man. That's his appeal.
Shannon
Some of the areas where there could be improvement, it says brow and eye definition. It says that you can potentially start to use maybe a brow gel or something to make your eyebrows a little bit better. And then as far as your smile, in this picture, it says current smile is very enthusiastic, which is positive, but it's also quite wide and shows tensive in the tense tension in the cheeks and the jaw.
Zach Amico
Well, that's what you're looking for in.
Ryan Shaner
A guy who's gonna suck you dry, dude.
Shannon
And then all for wardrobe and styling. The casual shirt is fine for relaxed context, but upgrading to a better fitting shirt or layering can elevate perceived style.
Ryan Shaner
Wow.
Zach Amico
All right, do man get. Rip the band aid off.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, baby.
Ryan Shaner
I think you're gonna be pleasantly surprised. Zacky. I think you're gonna be pleasantly surprised, man.
Zach Amico
It's going to literally send back. No, I need a picture of a human.
Ryan Shaner
Wait, I think, I think, I think it's going to be very. I mean, that was like nothing, Nothing. I was actually very impressed with the generosity that said it was very nice. It was very nice.
J.J. Lieberman
But it also is like I said.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, I guess you could be like, yo, be a dick.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah. There should be the. There should be the dark side of AI.
Ryan Shaner
Wait, Shannon, did you ask, did you make the prompt where it said needed for improvement or did it say no, I did.
Shannon
Yeah. Because it was so nice in the first one that I feel like I needed a little something extra.
Ryan Shaner
It's like, can you tell this uggo where he needs.
Shannon
I feel like it's not funny otherwise. So this is a picture I used of you, Zach.
Zach Amico
Okay.
Shannon
Okay. And then I'm going to tell you what it said. It says, first impressions, big personality, vibes. The wild hair and confidence. A confident stage stand suggests this person owns their look. That can be magnetic. In a comedy or entertainment context, people are often drawn to bold self expression that they are.
J.J. Lieberman
That. That's pretty good.
Zach Amico
That's a pretty nice way of saying, look at this big fat.
Shannon
Styling. The outfit feels playful and purposefully exaggerated. Is giving. Wow. It said it's giving character. Performer or someone with a unique stage Persona. That's pretty impressive hair. The hair is a standout. Wild, teased, chaotic, which either reads as comedic or rebellious, depending on the context. Not traditionally quote hot in a mainstream way, but definitely unforgettable. Areas, areas of improvement. It did this this time. If the goal is to enhance attractiveness rather than character impact, first one is tone it down for more conventional, attractive presentation. Taming the hair. Swapping to a cleaner cut outfit would shift the vibe drastically. Glasses and facial framing. Slightly more stylized frames or adjusting fit could balance the face shape and then lighting and posh lighting, whatever. Fine.
Zach Amico
Hey, I'll take.
J.J. Lieberman
Pretty accurate.
Zach Amico
I'll take it. Wow.
Ryan Shaner
That was. Yeah, I told you that was not as. That was not as bad as you thought it was going to be, man. I think it was very, very positive. Sounded like a. It sounded like a grandmother trying to suggest what to do.
Zach Amico
You know you look sharp.
Ryan Shaner
You know you look good.
J.J. Lieberman
Would you change your glasses?
Zach Amico
I like, I like having the. Yeah, I like, I like my cheapo glasses.
Ryan Shaner
I like, I like the frames. The frames look good on you. If you had like big, like those wire frame, like Dahmer glasses. I don't know if that works.
Zach Amico
Yeah, I would look too pedophile.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, it would.
Zach Amico
Those were a fat face with the Dahmer glasses.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
Really screams.
Ryan Shaner
It's like crazy.
J.J. Lieberman
I don't, I don't recall his glasses.
Ryan Shaner
Let me see.
Zach Amico
He had like the, the aviators.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, they were like Wireframe. Almost like rose tinted bifocals. They look absurd.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, I know what you're talking.
Zach Amico
Yeah. All right, now let's get Shaner.
Shannon
All right, so this is the picture that I used.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, man, that's a great pick.
Zach Amico
It's very, very handsome pick.
Shannon
Okay, and here's what Chad GPT said. First impressions, masculine and gritty vibe. The thick mustache, slicked back hair and scowl give strong grindhouse anti hero energy.
Zach Amico
Wow.
Shannon
Very Ron Swanson meets 70s detective drama.
Zach Amico
Jeez, why don't you suck his dick? Now chat. Gbt.
Ryan Shaner
Wow. Chat. I'm about to hook up my auto blow. Tell you I forgot the cord. I'm gonna suck you.
Shannon
Styling. The leather trench coat and all black shirt tie combo are cinematic. Not subtle, but stylish in a moody, almost comic book way. This guy looks like he'd solve crimes and moonlight as a punk bar bouncer. Isn't that what you did?
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, that's exactly what I did. That's exactly why that picture was taken.
Shannon
Facial structure, strong brow, square jaw, and symmetrical features. All things that read as conventionally attractive, especially when paired with high contrast lighting.
Ryan Shaner
Now, where does it say I need to improve?
Shannon
Okay. Potential tweaks, expression range. The intense glare look is part of the character. But a second shot with a smirk or relaxed eyes and might add depth and dimension to their public image. Mustache dominance. The mustache is the centerpiece, which is a statement. If he wanted to soften the look or appear younger, trimming or reshaping it would do that, though he'd lose the character.
Ryan Shaner
I did do that.
Shannon
And then color variation. Earth tones are solid here, but a splash of unexpected color or texture like a patterned tie or vibrant backdrop could modernize the aesthetic slightly without losing edge.
Ryan Shaner
Well, I'll be damned.
Zach Amico
Very, very complimentary.
Ryan Shaner
Very complimentary suggestions there. Thank you. Thank you.
Zach Amico
And it said it's brutally honest.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
Wow. I'll take. Hey.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, I think it did. I think it. It definitely gave all of us a little.
Shannon
Also, Shaner, it does say, as far as appeal for you, it said this person likely reads as hot to people who are into alternative masculinity. Old school tough guys or dark comedy types.
Ryan Shaner
Alternative masculinity. Shannon, what is your definition. What is your definition of alternative masculine?
Shannon
It doesn't sound like a good thing.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, it does sound.
Shannon
It sounds like. Not masculinity.
Ryan Shaner
It doesn't sound like masculinity.
Zach Amico
This is the new masculine.
Ryan Shaner
This is new. What are the new masculinity?
Zach Amico
Crystal masculinity. A masculinity for a new generation, you.
Ryan Shaner
Know, Sugar free masculinity. Alternative.
Zach Amico
All right, we're gonna wrap up very soon. Surgeon dubbed the worst serial pedophile who ever lived.
Ryan Shaner
Whoa.
Zach Amico
After sexually abusing hundreds of patients over three decades, is jailed for the maximum sentence in France. 20 years. They really threw the book at him. This is the Marquis Asad over here.
Ryan Shaner
What? Only 20 years and he's the worst pedophile?
Zach Amico
A 30 year run, technically, Wouldn't that mean he's the best. Yeah, I was gonna say the worst pedophile ever.
Ryan Shaner
Like, I was gonna say, you're gonna give.
Zach Amico
This guy can't get hard and, like, has bad candy.
Ryan Shaner
30 years he's been changing the game.
Zach Amico
He's got circus peanuts and a soft dick.
Ryan Shaner
He had to reinvent himself. God damn.
Zach Amico
The van's broken down.
Ryan Shaner
Not this guy.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah. In America, they. They. What did they do to Larry Nasser? They gave him life, eh?
Zach Amico
I believe so.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, they definitely did.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Ryan Shaner
And this guy Larry. How long was Larry Nasser?
Zach Amico
I don't know.
Ryan Shaner
I don't. I don't think he had a 30 year run.
Zach Amico
Yeah, that's a. That's definitely.
J.J. Lieberman
I think he had a lot like he was doing. Hey, yeah.
Ryan Shaner
For. For over 30.
J.J. Lieberman
I think probably at least 20 years, man. I. I really think he. What he did was like, for. I think, at least. I mean.
Ryan Shaner
So wait, what was. What was this guy?
Zach Amico
Let's. Get the. Let's. Let's get some info. Shannon.
Shannon
So his name is Joel. I don't know how to say this. This French, stupid French name, but it's less. Gower neck, something like that. He's 74. He admitted at least to 299 horrifying crimes against victims who are mostly under the age of 15. And the youngest was 4.
Zach Amico
I would like to think, sir, you've accused of raping 300 children.
Ryan Shaner
No.
Zach Amico
Bullshit.
Ryan Shaner
No.
Shannon
They found 99.
Ryan Shaner
That's a very exact number.
Shannon
They found him guilty of 111. 111 rapes, 189 sexual assaults. And what he would do was most. So most of this took place between 1989 and 2014. He retired in 2017. So it took them all this time to like, nail him down. But he would. As they were anesthetized or while they were coming out of anesthesia is when he would around with them.
Ryan Shaner
Whoa. So he liked the waking up thing.
Zach Amico
So you gotta be. You gotta have a friend for that right there. You're not alone with them, are you?
Ryan Shaner
Unless he's doing the whole. Unless he's also the anesthesiologist and he doesn't need an assistant.
Zach Amico
Like if he's a surgeon, I don't.
Shannon
Think surgeon could, but I think it's because when they're coming out of anesthesia, so maybe it's like they're awake already and. But not completely.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, they're loopy.
Shannon
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, you get. Get very loopy after you come out of anesthesia. It's kind of like. Yeah, you don't really know what's going on, but you kind of do.
Shannon
It's also. It was 158 females. Sorry. 158 males, 141 females. Average age of 11. Man, this guy, was he self described as a major pervert and a pedophile?
Zach Amico
I'm sorry, I think this guy's no good.
Shannon
He says, I'm very happy about it.
J.J. Lieberman
Really?
Zach Amico
Yeah.
Shannon
They said in, in his notes, the doctor described himself as those things and said, I am very happy about it.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, I mean, who I am, you know.
Zach Amico
74. What else do you got to.
Ryan Shaner
You know?
Zach Amico
I guess he's got a little too late now, right?
Ryan Shaner
He's just taking anything he can get. I guess he's just really swinging.
Zach Amico
How did it take? He retired 27, 2017.
J.J. Lieberman
He retired. No, he retired.
Shannon
He retired in 2017.
J.J. Lieberman
So he's probably just sipping on margaritas right now. And then they came.
Ryan Shaner
Would you say he was discharged?
Shannon
He also. He was. He's already in jail because he is serving a 15 year sentence for rape against three other people. One. One included was his niece.
J.J. Lieberman
Jesus Christ.
Shannon
So he's already serving a sentence, but this 20 year sentence, he only has to serve 2/3 of it, which seems insane.
Ryan Shaner
That's just crazy.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, it's.
Ryan Shaner
Is that what it. Wait, what is. The max sentence is 20 years, the max sentence you can get for like molestation or rape in France?
Shannon
I guess. I guess so. But I feel like it usually. What it usually is is like a charge. Like each one is a different charge. So I don't know how 20.
J.J. Lieberman
Well, they do that in America. I don't know if they do that in other countries. Like they can have like. So you're going to serve. That's what they told Nasser. You're going to. You're going to the judge when she gave the. It was like actually like cool thing she said. I forget what it was, but it was something like, you are going to die. I'm going to make sure you die.
Shannon
In jail, he, he also, he kept records of his crimes, documenting the victims, names, ages Addresses and the nature of the abuse.
J.J. Lieberman
That's what Dexter did, too.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, man.
Shannon
Well, he just kept the slides.
J.J. Lieberman
Okay. True.
Zach Amico
It sounds like this guy wanted to get caught.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. It's almost like he was just leading his meddling kids.
Zach Amico
This guy hung out at the bottom.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, this guy. Hey, Shannon, can you do me a favor?
Shannon
Yeah, I'll put in ChatGPT.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Ryan Shaner
Can you tell me if this guy's attractive or not?
J.J. Lieberman
I mean, truthfully, some of those guys are like. They're so sick in the head. They like the idea of. I mean, you watch Mindhunter or whatever, you know, they love the idea. Some of these people love the idea of getting caught.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah. It's kind of weird.
Zach Amico
I feel like that's, like half the. I mean, if he's saying all these things, if you're writing it down straight up.
J.J. Lieberman
Summer of Sam, too. Didn't he like getting caught? It wasn't his.
Zach Amico
He was writing anybody who writes the cops letters, I think.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, you're begging for it.
Zach Amico
They want to get caught.
J.J. Lieberman
That's what you think? That's what they get off on.
Zach Amico
I think they get off on the idea of people finding out what they did.
J.J. Lieberman
And then it's kind of like when you're. You get successful in comedy, people like, I know him.
Ryan Shaner
I figured a bunch of children, you know, you guys know who I am.
J.J. Lieberman
Do you ever. Do you think in. In our. Do you think in our, like, sphere of people, there are people like that, that you like. That person could, like, in terms of, like, serial killers?
Zach Amico
Yes, sure.
Ryan Shaner
Really?
J.J. Lieberman
So you. Do you think there's someone out there who's a successful comedian who's also a successful murderer or.
Zach Amico
Well, there was the one guy was a very successful college rapist, wasn't he? Vince something Shamwell. No, there's a guy. He was a college comic, and they realized all the rapes were.
J.J. Lieberman
Yes, he would take. Yeah, that last year he would take.
Zach Amico
No, it's from longer than that. They did a Law and order on it.
J.J. Lieberman
Oh, I thought it was last year. They did do a law and order on it.
Shannon
Was it Vince, champ? It was 1997.
J.J. Lieberman
Yes. He used to book gigs just to do it. He was going to sororities and raping or something.
Zach Amico
Yeah, it was. They literally realized the rapes were happening on his tour schedule.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, quite.
Zach Amico
Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
Law and order wasn't ideal, which, by.
Zach Amico
The way, doesn't take a lot of work.
Ryan Shaner
No, not at all.
Zach Amico
If you could match. If you could. If you could find somebody's rape schedule just by Putting one calendar over another one. It's not really heavy duty police work.
Ryan Shaner
Holy.
J.J. Lieberman
I don't know why, like, at that level, like, why would the money. So good at college tours?
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, but.
Zach Amico
Yeah, but that wasn't his.
Ryan Shaner
That wasn't.
Zach Amico
That wasn't his thing. That wasn't his favorite part.
Ryan Shaner
I'm like, he got in, he got into raping, and he found comedy the other way around.
Zach Amico
He saw Animal House or Revenge of the nerds and went, I love what.
Ryan Shaner
I like this.
Zach Amico
I love making people laugh.
J.J. Lieberman
So funny. When you hear about, like, comics are making money from comedy, like, why would you. You piss that all away.
Zach Amico
Just for a couple lousy rapes.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah. People.
Zach Amico
What an idiot.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah.
Ryan Shaner
The world at your feet, man. What are you doing?
J.J. Lieberman
You're doing the colleges. That's 5,000 a gig.
Zach Amico
Yep. Yeah, well, you know, quarter million, everybody's got their own thing.
J.J. Lieberman
I'm like, anytime.
Zach Amico
Shannon, what did. What did chatgpt say about our doctor friend?
Shannon
So it said, the furrowed brow and lack of visible emotion suggest intensity or even intimidation. This might give off an authoritarian or not. No nonsense vibe. Image, image quality, socks, styling. With the glasses and minimal background context, it's hard to infer much about the personal style, grooming, or intent, all of which heavily influence attractiveness and vibe. And then it asked me if I wanted to improve the picture, and I said yes. And this is what I came up with.
Zach Amico
Nice.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, yeah. You never expect that guy.
J.J. Lieberman
That's a rapist.
Zach Amico
I mean, it's a better rate.
Ryan Shaner
It's a better rape.
J.J. Lieberman
If I, you know, if I'm gonna get diddles.
Ryan Shaner
Like when I hear best French rapist. That's what I think.
Zach Amico
Yeah. So, okay, now consider. Look at that picture. But close your eyes like two thirds.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
Pretty hot.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, yeah.
Zach Amico
And you're just coming. You're just. You don't quite know where you are. You're a little woozy, a little nauseous.
Ryan Shaner
That's a very inviting beanbag up against your nose. Just.
Zach Amico
All right, you probably. You probably got some sorbet coming.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, yeah.
Zach Amico
Something. Somebody owes you a treat?
Ryan Shaner
Something just real French. Yes.
Zach Amico
You're fine then.
J.J. Lieberman
Cracker Jacks in a soft dick.
Zach Amico
What?
J.J. Lieberman
It was.
Zach Amico
I can't. No, it was something else.
J.J. Lieberman
Circus.
Zach Amico
Circus peanuts and it's all dick.
J.J. Lieberman
Hey, circus peanuts, cracker Jacks and a soft dick, buddy. You got my mouth.
Zach Amico
Well, hey, that's. That's my baseball loving friend right there. That's his food groups.
J.J. Lieberman
I'll tell you something, man. I went to university of Texas baseball game, which is so amazing. And I bought a bag of peanuts. That's the way you watch baseball.
Ryan Shaner
Just baseball and peanuts.
J.J. Lieberman
Baseball, peanuts and a Coke Zero.
Ryan Shaner
Dude telling you, sounds like a little slice of heaven.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, I love going to the ballpark.
Ryan Shaner
I mean, I would have figured you a dollar dog guy.
J.J. Lieberman
No, don't like bread. Oh, I do like bread, but I try not to eat it. So if I'm just sitting on peanuts and a Coke Zero at a baseball game. Hot college bros playing.
Zach Amico
Oh, yeah, you were fucking living it up. So before we get out of here, I do want to show one more thing. Shannon. I forgot to put it on the. And that thing I sent you today, we'll do on another show. But so my good friend was on America's Got Talent.
Ryan Shaner
Okay.
Zach Amico
And I want to showcase him. My good friend Badlands booker Fantastic has appeared on America's Got Talent and I just wanted to give him a shout out and watch the clip with you guys. For you out of here today, for those who don't know, Badlands is the world's premier drink chugger.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, sick.
Zach Amico
All right, Shaner, I'm sure you've seen many videos. Oh, I've made you watch. Here.
Ryan Shaner
This is. I, yeah, I know this guy.
J.J. Lieberman
Beer chugger.
Zach Amico
Not online because you get demonetized for chugging alcohol.
J.J. Lieberman
Can he do milk?
Zach Amico
Oh, he does. He does habanero salsa. He knows, honey. He does. This is what. He's very famous for it. And he finally got America's Got Talent. That's my boy right there.
J.J. Lieberman
Let's fucking go.
Ryan Shaner
Let's see how Simon reacts. Hello. Good reaction already. What's your name, please, sir?
Zach Amico
My name is Eric Booker. Okay.
Ryan Shaner
Tell me about you, please, Eric.
Zach Amico
Yes, I'm a retired sober conductor from New York City. Yes.
Ryan Shaner
How many years have you thought about right. This is the year I'm going to come on the show.
Zach Amico
I told everyone I was going to retire on my birthday and I did. Ever since I retired, I have more time to work on my dream work on my talent. This is the time where I'm going to do it. This is my moment. I used to see him on the sub at the subway too, just walking around in his uniform. He was so big when he came here, he had to walk sideways through the front door for him to change your life.
Ryan Shaner
Good luck.
Zach Amico
No doubt. And it's not just fat. He's just. He's huge.
Ryan Shaner
He look. He looks like a huge dude.
J.J. Lieberman
Like Patrice, like.
Zach Amico
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ryan Shaner
Do you want some water or anything before you start.
Zach Amico
Just a little sip.
Ryan Shaner
Thank you, Terry. Okay.
Zach Amico
What is he gonna do? I have no idea. They're gonna do a fusion dance.
J.J. Lieberman
I think it's gonna be a comedian.
Ryan Shaner
Well, you were about to say singer.
J.J. Lieberman
I thought he would sing. I would hate to be on that.
Ryan Shaner
That better not be for us. Oh, Christ, that's not for us, is it? What is it?
Zach Amico
Y' all each have samples of what I'm about to do. So if you want to play along, you can see the first thing we're doing. You're going to find pickles floating in it and.
Ryan Shaner
Ooh.
Zach Amico
Hell yeah, dude. When he was here at Gas, him and Sega did Irish truck bombs.
Ryan Shaner
Amazing.
Zach Amico
So, yeah, he does the lemonade contest at Coney island every year. He's got a bunch of world records. I met him years ago on a shoot.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, come on, Mel. You stuck up.
Zach Amico
I would watch this every. Every day.
Ryan Shaner
Good for you.
Zach Amico
Dude.
Ryan Shaner
Green corn.
Zach Amico
He did the. The. You know, the gallon bag of sweet tea from Popeyes. Yeah, it was a pretty great visual.
Ryan Shaner
Wild dude is crushing. Oh, Simon, don't you be a puss.
Zach Amico
Get the away from that button. Scary Spice. You can't kill you. Come on. Don't let her near that button.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, come on. You know.
Zach Amico
How dare you shout out to Eric Booker. Congratulations on retiring, buddy.
J.J. Lieberman
Did he get through?
Zach Amico
No, I don't think so.
J.J. Lieberman
Why is everyone stand standing?
Ryan Shaner
I think.
Zach Amico
Let's see what. Let's see what happens at the end. Do you want it? Okay.
Ryan Shaner
Yes.
Zach Amico
All right.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah, I'll take that whole gallon of milk. Shut up, Sopia. So I actually don't know what to say. Yeah, for me, it was all a little small, if I'm being honest with you. Have you smelled what these smell like? Set your stomach on fire. It's not great. I just don't think hot dog water is that exciting. Damn.
J.J. Lieberman
Because this is the 20th season. We want something that is amazing.
Zach Amico
And the fact that I can do.
Ryan Shaner
It means it's not that special. Wow. Howe, I think you're gonna really injure the.
Zach Amico
The lining of your tummy. I don't think you should be doing that.
Ryan Shaner
Please, please take care of yourself.
Zach Amico
Right.
Ryan Shaner
Eric, I really like you, so I'm disappointed. I would have said yes. Awesome.
Zach Amico
Appreciate you, Simon.
Ryan Shaner
Thank you. Wait, don't they have. Don't they have, like, the golden buzzer that, like, cancels out all the other. Wow, Simon, you could have made a man's dreams come true.
J.J. Lieberman
I do think, like, even though that is impressive, I still, like, I want to Move away from the direction of Costco, guys.
Zach Amico
Yes.
Ryan Shaner
Oh, sure. Yeah.
J.J. Lieberman
I, I, I still, I, like, once I realize who they were, I'm obsessed. I can't believe that something that would have been cringe five years ago is the biggest mainstream thing right now. And it blows. Like, I, I attack the Rizzler on stage and people like, big L, I'm.
Ryan Shaner
Like, you, dude, just give it five years.
Zach Amico
In, in 10 years, that's, that's a snake that's gonna eat its own tail.
J.J. Lieberman
We're gonna think so.
Ryan Shaner
We're definitely gonna have a Costco murder.
J.J. Lieberman
Yeah, I think.
Ryan Shaner
Or like a behind the scenes costume.
Zach Amico
Well, we're gonna have a sad adult Rizzler.
Ryan Shaner
Yeah.
Zach Amico
Doing strip mall appearances like Kenny Powers, like, remember me?
J.J. Lieberman
The Rizzler's gonna be on my podcast in 10 years. We're like, we're both.
Ryan Shaner
I think his deathbed is just gonna.
Zach Amico
Oh, they're gonna have to be. They're gonna have to super glue his hand.
Ryan Shaner
Super glue his hand to his face.
Zach Amico
All right, let's wrap it up there, boys. Thank you so much for my guests, Ryan Shaner, J.J. lieberman. We got another episode coming this Friday, exclusive to subscribers. So see you then. Thank you guys and good night. Bye. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
Ryan Shaner
Thank you. Noon is morning time to him. Papa Baco. Chug it down just like favorite ob and join the crew. It's Acamiko work morning too. It's Acamiko work morning too.
Zac Amico's Morning Zoo
Episode 0014: Ryan Shaner and JJ Lieberman
Release Date: June 1, 2025
Hosted by Zac Amico of the GaS Digital Network, Zac’s Morning Zoo delivers an unhinged and chaotic start to the day, blending twisted takes on current events, wild stories, and interactions with a rotating cast of comedians and entertainers. In Episode 0014, Zac welcomes guests Ryan Shaner and JJ Lieberman, diving into a variety of engaging and often outrageous topics. This detailed summary captures the essence of their conversation, enriched with notable quotes and timestamps for key moments.
Zac Amico kickstarts the episode with his signature energetic greeting, addressing his listeners as “fuck faces” and introducing his guests with enthusiasm.
He introduces JJ Lieberman and Ryan Shaner, praising JJ’s recent successes.
Zach Amico [01:43]:
"You've been fucking popping out, popping off lately. Yeah. People get a lot of attention, and I would like to let you know, well deserved. And you're a very funny guy and I'm really happy for you."
J.J. Lieberman [01:52]:
"Thanks, buddy. 1212 years. Finally a little fucking taste of old."
The conversation transitions to promoting the guests' upcoming projects and shows.
JJ Lieberman [03:04]:
"I just dropped a podcast called Two Goons and that should be out literally next week. So some of the biggest porn stars."
Ryan Shaner [03:32]:
"You can check me out on the end podcast wherever you get your podcast."
Zac Amico also plugs his own shows and website, offering listeners exclusive discounts.
Zac introduces a shocking news story about Kevin Costner being sued by his stunt double over a violent unscripted rape scene. The trio delves into the details and implications.
Zach Amico [04:51]:
"Kevin Costner sued by Horizon stunt double over violent unscripted rape scene."
Ryan Shaner [05:02]:
"Whoa. Kevin Costner raped his stunt double."
They discuss the lack of preparation and intimacy coaches on set, expressing skepticism about the stunt double’s allegations.
JJ Lieberman [07:15]:
"Some people just do stunt work for the money. My friend Dave, he's a magician and he does clown work. He's got all his tricks on him..."
Zach Amico [10:10]:
"I think this lady was taken by surprise. Sex scenes are usually closed sets."
The conversation highlights issues surrounding consent and professionalism in the film industry.
The discussion shifts to humorous and frustrating experiences in movie production, focusing on scenes that required numerous takes.
Ryan Shaner [12:01]:
"Do you ever see A Tin Cup? The part where he hits the golf ball. That was done in one take."
Zach Amico [13:12]:
"Pizza on the roof and Breaking Bad was one."
JJ Lieberman [14:33]:
"There is a guy who used to do Rookie Blue. It was a cop show. And he was the coolest guy on set..."
They recount stories from movies like Home Alone, where simple scenes became monumental production challenges due to multiple takes.
The trio emphasizes the unpredictability and meticulous nature of filmmaking.
Transitioning to adult entertainment, the hosts review and critique porn parodies of popular sitcoms like Seinfeld and Pee Wee’s Big Adventure.
JJ Lieberman [18:49]:
"They did a really good job with the set."
Zach Amico [19:02]:
"The laugh track is hilarious. The fact that somebody had to sit and do a laugh track on board is really funny."
They discuss the quality and humor infused into these parodies, highlighting their blend of comedy and adult content.
The conversation touches on the intersection of humor and sexuality, and how these parodies reflect broader societal trends.
A significant portion of the episode focuses on the use and effects of dick pumps, blending personal anecdotes with humor and technical insights.
Zach Amico [25:03]:
"Sometimes a new guy is in porn. So the two things that happen with one, he can't get hard and then two, gets too excited, he nuts too early..."
Ryan Shaner [26:04]:
"No one is happy. Nobody's happy."
JJ Lieberman [29:05]:
"So what you're talking about being a feature backer? I have a few friends that do that for a living."
They explore the side effects, challenges, and societal perceptions surrounding sexual enhancement devices.
The hosts use vivid humor to discuss sensitive topics, making the conversation both informative and entertaining.
In a unique segment, the hosts experiment with AI, using ChatGPT to assess their attractiveness based on provided pictures. Their reactions highlight the sometimes awkward interaction between human perception and machine analysis.
Shannon [60:42]:
"So it's pretty positive. And then I have...I have an editor who's doing one of the high-end versions of AI..."
Ryan Shaner [61:03]:
"I did do that."
Shannon [64:18]:
"Your smile is big and expressive, which gives off very approachable... Areas for improvement: brow and eye definition."
The hosts humorously critique the AI’s feedback, revealing their skepticism and amusement.
The episode takes a dark turn as the hosts discuss a harrowing case of a French surgeon named Joel (surname unspecified) convicted of numerous child sexual abuses.
Shannon [72:19]:
"He admitted to at least 299 horrifying crimes against victims who are mostly under the age of 15."
Zach Amico [73:04]:
"I would like to think, sir, you've accused of raping 300 children."
The conversation delves into the severity of the crimes, the justice system's response, and parallels to infamous cases like Larry Nassar’s.
They express outrage and disbelief over the sentencing, questioning the adequacy of the punishment.
In the concluding part of the episode, Zac attempts to showcase a friend's performance on America's Got Talent. The hosts express disappointment as the act doesn’t make it through the selection process.
They end on a light-hearted note, incorporating more humor and teasing about future episodes.
Zach Amico [87:35]:
"We're gonna have a Costco murder or like a behind-the-scenes costume."
Zach Amico [88:02]:
"Thank you guys and good night. Bye."
Notable Quotes:
Zach Amico [01:14]:
"Good morning, fuck faces. It's your old pal cousin Zach."
Ryan Shaner [05:02]:
"Whoa. Kevin Costner raped his stunt double."
JJ Lieberman [07:15]:
"That's what happened the first day. We're in overtime."
Zach Amico [14:40]:
"I'm a whore."
Shannon [60:42]:
"If your dick has been trying to take a personal day when you need it to be clocked in, it's time to check out HIMS Ed."
JJ Lieberman [73:25]:
"Joel... admitted to 299 horrifying crimes."
Conclusion:
Episode 0014 of Zac Amico's Morning Zoo is a rollercoaster of discussions ranging from shocking legal cases and behind-the-scenes movie production woes to candid talks about adult entertainment and the quirks of AI. Ryan Shaner and JJ Lieberman bring their unique perspectives, infused with humor and candor, making for an engaging and multifaceted episode. Listeners are treated to a mix of serious topics and lighthearted banter, encapsulating the chaotic yet entertaining nature of the show.