Think you need a business coach… or a marketing strategist?

Most business owners are asking the wrong question.

In this episode of The Meaningful Marketing Podcast, international award-winning marketing strategist Chantal Gerardy sits down with business coach Simon Boler to unpack what’s actually happening inside businesses that feel busy, stretched, and stuck.

This isn’t a debate.

It’s a real conversation between two experts working in different parts of business, exploring where things break down, what gets missed, and why so many businesses struggle to grow even when they’re doing “all the right things.”

Because before you focus on more marketing, more leads, or more growth… there are fundamentals that can’t be ignored.

Throughout the episode, Chantal and Simon use a real-world trades business example to bring this to life, showing how missed systems, poor follow-up, and scaling too quickly can lead to overwhelm, lost revenue, and unnecessary pressure.

Chantal unpacks:

The difference between a business coach and a marketing strategist (and where they overlap)
The core fundamentals every business needs before focusing on growth
Why many business owners scale in the wrong order
What happens when you hire, advertise, or push for growth too early
How systems, structure, and communication drive results
Why accountability is often the missing link between knowing and doing

Chantal also shares her perspective from inside real client businesses, highlighting what she sees when marketing is layered on top of weak foundations.

👉 Because when the foundations aren’t right, growth doesn’t fix the problem, it exposes it.

If your business feels busy but not moving forward, this episode will help you see what might actually be getting in the way.

Connect with Simon Boler on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonboler/

Ready to Make Your Marketing Meaningful?

If you’re ready to combine strategy with self-awareness and build a business that feels aligned and profitable, here’s your next step:

📥 Download your FREE Marketing Guide
👉 https://chantalgerardy.com.au/free-downloads/

🎧 Listen to more episodes
👉 http://themeaningfulmarketingpodcast.com/

🌐 Work with Chantal
👉 http://onlinebusinessmarketing.com.au/

If you’re ready to stop guessing and start building a marketing system that actually converts, Chantal shares practical strategies to help you manage, monetize, and market your business with clarity.