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Hey, it's your friend Mel. And welcome to the Mel Robbins Podcast. What if I told you it was possible for you to have a much better relationship with your family? Whether it's your parents or your siblings or your in laws or your adult kids, that it is possible, no matter what's happened, for you to change the dynamic with anyone in your family, even somebody with a really difficult personality? Well, that's what you and I are going to talk about today. We're going to talk about a simple tool and a whole new approach to your family dynamics. Whether they're good, whether they're bad, whether they're fun, whether they're sad. Whole new approach. Because here's what I know. The second that you are done listening to this, you're going to have absolutely everything you need to shift how you show up. And I'm telling you, it only takes one person in a family to change absolutely everything. 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Black Friday event dates are November 14th through November 30th. Shop macy's.com or macy's.com giftguide hey, it's your friend Mel. And welcome to the Mel Robbins Podcast. It is always such an honor to be able to spend time together with you. And if you're brand new to the Mel Robbins Podcast, I want to welcome you to the Mel Robbins Podcast family. And here's what's super cool about the conversation we're going to have today. Because you hit play on this episode. I know something about you. I know that family is important to you. And whether or not you have a great relationship with your family or a horrible relationship with your family, whether or not you're best friends with your siblings or you barely talk to them. Here's what I know you are interested in ways in learning how to be more deeply connected. You want the relationship to be stronger. And I have great news. It can happen. And it can happen based on some simple things that you're going to learn today that I learned the hard way that I've also been researching for the last couple years. Simple tools that you can use to fundamentally shift the way you think about family and the way you show up when you are dealing with your family. And everything that you're going to learn is going to apply to absolutely everything related to family. Whether it's the family group text chat that drives you bananas or that you wish was slightly different. Whether it's the dynamic when you all get together, whether it is things that's happened in the past that you can't just let go, whatever it is that's standing in your way or causing frustration or that you just wish would change. This conversation today is going to create an entirely new possibility for you because all it takes is one person. And today you're going to learn that person is you. And what we're going to talk about is so important. It has had a huge impact on my life. I truly hope you share this episode with your family. In fact, if you're going to be driving somewhere over the holidays with them, just put this on in the car because it can't go anywhere. And as you're all listening, you'll probably kind of look at each other and then look ahead and kind of nod. And because we do wish things could be better, you deserve to have more fun and I'm going to teach you how you can start to bring it. So my mission today in having this conversation with you is to really help you improve your relationship with your family. Because let's start with fact number one. Your family's not changing. They are who they are. You've got to learn how to let them be who they are. But here's the cool thing. If you change your approach in terms of how you show up, the energy you bring, your mindset around your family, you are so powerful that simply changing your approach can send positive ripples through the entire family dynamic. And that will change everything over time. It's your responsibility to figure out what kind of relationship you have with your family. If you love your family, if you're having a lot of fun with your family, if your favorite time of year is to go see your family, that's fantastic. And today, you're going to learn a few things that's going to make it even better. But if you dread seeing your family, if you are anxious about it, if you feel like you got a brace or that somebody in your family is always instigating something, there's members of our family that are like that. They just can't help themselves. They got to, like, pick and poke and twist and. And it's not fun. It's not fun. But I'm going to keep hammering this point over and over. You can't change another person because people only change when they feel like it. And you're also going to learn that the family dynamics have been in place for a very long time. But that doesn't mean they can't shift in a very positive way. Because we're going to talk about how you can use the let them theory and the laws of human behavior and the facts about how families are to positively influence any interaction. And here's how we're going to start this conversation. Because I'm not a part of your family, you're not a part of my family. But here's what I do know. All families are the same in one regard. They are an interconnected system. And so we're going to start our conversation with a metaphor for how I think about family. And this metaphor is going to change everything, because you are going to, perhaps for the first time, see your family and your extended family in an entirely new way. In fact, the family dynamic. And this is a really important thing to kind of zoom out and think about it, because you think about it like brothers and sisters and parents and the golden child and the favorite one. And I'm never this, and I'm the middle, and I'm this and I. And there's so many labels and so much history in families that you forget to zoom out and think about what actually is a family. A family is a interconnected web of people. It's a system. Like, I actually think about a spider web. Think about a spider web and you see it in the morning, and all the dew is on it and glistening. All those little strands are all the connections of family. And if you think about the center of it, that's your parents and your grandparents, and then everything flows out from there. And look, I'm not saying that the system or the web is fair or it's right. It's just the reality. Y'all are connected, and you have been since you came into this world. And so when you make a change, it's like Somebody going up to the upper right hand corner of Charlotte's Web and going tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. What happens? The whole web shakes. The dew drips off, the spider goes running around. Because you're all interconnected. In fact, I write about this extensively in the Let Them Theory book. There's an entire chapter, chapter 6, page 95. And let me tell you the title of the chapter that's about family, how to Love Difficult People. Now, the reason why I named the chapter about family, how to Love Difficult People is because family just cuts different. I think the purpose of family in some cases is to teach you how to love people that you don't like sometimes, right? Because there are people in your family you don't like and you may never like them, but guess what? You're still connected via that web whether you talk to them or not. Every time there's a family group chat, text and somebody texts something annoying and you roll your eyes, it's like somebody went tap, tap, tap to the web. It impacts you. So I'm going to teach you how to accept the reality that your family's not changing. Let them. Your power is in not managing your family or worrying about your family or being triggered by your family. Your power is in the second part of the Let them theory, which is, let me, let me decide what kind of relationship I want. Let me decide what kind of daughter or son or father or mother or sister or brother I want to be. Because just because you got somebody that tap, tap, taps the web and is an instigator doesn't mean you have to let it affect you. It doesn't mean you have to chime in. In fact, you're going to learn tools today that are going to have you look at family completely differently. And since I wrote about this extensively in the Let Them Theory book, I want to read to you a little bit about family just so that we're on the same page about why your family can be critical and harsh. And they say things that are like what? Like what are you doing? You know, why your parents have to step in or why somebody has to say, enough, enough. Could you just be nice? Could you just like, can we just have fun, please? So family tends to be a lot harsher to your face because they have a stake in your happiness and in your success. I mean, it's true if you're an interconnected web and you got somebody who is just stuck and sad and depressed and sending ripaways through it, it affects everybody because they're worried about you. And that's why people tend to be a little bit harsher than your friends are. Because your happiness or your sadness affects everybody. Because you're connected, which is very different than your relationship with your friends. And a lot of the time when your family cares, how do they show it? They show it by pushing you, you know, and they don't like your friends, or they think you're headed down the wrong path, or they think that you could get a better job or take better care of yourself. What do they do? They fricking tell you, I know it's annoying. And most of the time, it's how your family shows you that they care. They want more for you. They want you to be happy, and they see all your potential that may be going to waste. However, when somebody says something to you about your life or your choices or they're a little judgy, it crosses the line all the time, doesn't it? It doesn't feel like care. It feels like criticism. Now, here's why this cuts deeper. Your friends can give you suggestions and opinions, but when your family does, you're like, don't talk to me about that. I don't want to talk about. We need boundaries. I got to like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The reason why is family relationships cut deeper than any other relationships that you have. Why? Whether you talk to them or not, whether it's positive or negative, you're still connected. You're connected energetically. You're connected through the past. You're connected through everybody's expectations about the future. And knowing that people in your family are going to have a reaction because you're part of an interlocked web of relationships that's been in place for generations. Knowing this is going to help you navigate this better. Because I'm going to keep coming back over and over to say, your parents aren't changing. Let them be who they are. Your siblings aren't changing, and neither is the dynamic or the past or the favoritism or whatever else you think is unfair or amazing. Let your siblings be who they are. I'm not saying that these expectations or that this interconnected system is right. I'm saying it's the reality. And when you accept reality and you really are able to look at things not through emotion but through facts, then you are empowered to change how you show up so that your behavior and your actions and your energy align with what you actually want. And I'm assuming that you're listening to this and you hit play because you would love to be more connected you would love less drama. You'd love to have more fun. I mean, who wouldn't? So do I. I don't want to spend the time that I have with my family feeling tense or resentful or arguing about stupid things or big things. I'd like to feel the interconnected web to be more supportive. I'd like to pull in and be excited. And that's what we're going to talk about today. But really starting with this understanding of the larger context of the situation is going to help you control how you show up. And so I want to talk about changes first. Okay? Everything from the web to the DO to the tap, tap, tap, to the way that things going on outside the web, the weather can impact it and tear it and shake it. That's the family system. You can also see that you get entangled in it and you don't want to be. And now I'm going to teach you this tool that I've been talking about a lot online and here on the podcast called the Let Them Theory. Now, if you haven't heard about the let them Theory, let me just tell you what it is real quick. And then we're going to jump into how you use the let them theory to navigate this web, to separate yourself from it, and how you're going to use it to create stronger, more supportive, more fun and loving relationships with your family. So what is the Let them Theory? The Let them Theory is a mindset tool that helps you stay focused on what you can control. And using the Let them Theory, you're going to learn that two simple words, let them, will change your entire approach to life. Because, let's be honest, family can be really annoying. You've known these people for a long time, since you've been born or they've been born, and their behavior impacts you whether you like it or not. And so you're going to find that you're going let them, Let them, let them, let them, let them. Because the number one rule with this mindset tool is that you can't control other people. Your power is in controlling your response to other people. And that's why you're going to use this with your family all the time. Because you're going to start to realize that every single time you get frustrated or emotional or upset about something, the problem really isn't you. The problem is you've unknowingly given power to other people. And when it comes to family, you've given all this power to your family's drama or your sister's emotion or your mother's disappointment, or you've allowed your dad's politics to affect you. And when you allow other people's opinions or their drama or their behavior to impact you, that means other people have power over you. But here's the thing. You know that tap, tap, tap that I'm talking about? You feel that if you're entangled in the web, the let them theory has two parts. The first part is let them, Let them. When you say let them, you step back from the web and you're not tangled up in it. And you give space for that interconnectedness to be there. And you see it and you understand the power of it, but you separate from it. And then when you say, let me, you focus yourself on where you have power, which is what you say, what you do, what your energy is, and what you bring to that web. Let me. Is when you go, tap, tap, tap, let's have some fun. Tap, tap, tap. I'm going to step away from this conversation. Let me. Is where you see yourself as separate. And you decide. When you join in, you decide what you bring to it. And that's why this theory is so revolutionary, particularly with your family, because right now you're entangled in the web. And the reason why the let them theory has changed my family dynamics and it's going to change yours is that when you're an adult, you're not responsible for managing other people's emotions. You gotta let your mom be disappointed. You gotta let your stepbrother be an instigator on politics. You're not responsible for parenting them. You are responsible for your emotions, and you're responsible for how you react to things. If you've had enough of the political talk, then say something. If somebody is acting like a child in an adult body, get up from the table and leave. It's not your job to try to control, fix, or manage someone else's emotions. It's their job. But when you're the parent or you're the stepparent and you're dealing with a child, it is your responsibility to help a child feel seen, heard, safe, and supported. And that's why this theory is going to help you so much, because it's going to help you understand inside of this very electric and energetic dynamic of emotions and history and opinions and expectations about what the family is and who should do what and how things have already gone, what is yours to manage and what isn't. When you're an adult, you're not responsible for your mother. You're not responsible for your father. You're not responsible for how your brother in law or your sister in law or anybody else shows up. You're responsible for you. So let them. And then focus on what do I want, who do I want to be? Because the second you go, okay, I want my family to be more fun. I want my family to be more connected. I want my family to be more interested. I want my family to be more supportive. Now you have the roadmap for how you show up and when you show up in a positive way. And you're like, I'm not going to get plugged into the BS political crap. That always happens. I'm not doing it. Let them. That piece and that ability to step back is another version of tap, tap, tap. But you're sending a calming wave through the entire web. And that's the coolest thing about the let them theory is that you and I have spent years trying to change our family. Managing them, feeling like it's your responsibility for your mom to be happy, for no one to feel guilty, for everything to go okay for the right plates to be put out, for the centerpiece to look this way, for everybody to get the right present, for nobody's feelings to get hurt, to try to control your temper when the golden child gets all the attention and every. And the grandchildren over here are the favorites. Like that's how we've been doing that. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. It's a whole new way to do family and that is to see your family for who they are and let them. And then to take a step back and go, okay, well, what do I want? How do I want to show up? How do I want to bring the fun? What is it that I want to lean into and what am I going to opt out of? And when you start to get very clear about that, you now have a roadmap for what's in your control, which is how you show up, how you respond, how you engage, what energy you bring, what conversations you initiate, which ones you participate in, which ones you don't. That is all in your control. And if you just stay laser focused on that, I promise you, no matter how challenging the dynamic is or anxious you may feel, you have the power to influence everything because you're part of the system and the web and you are way more powerful than you think. And the more that I have focused on, how do I just bring peace, how do I bring acceptance, how do I make everybody feel the love? How do I bring things that we can all bond over. Whether it's family Olympics or it's the puzzle we're gonna lay out or it's a really fun dance mix, the more things have changed. And in fact one of my brother in law said to me like two years ago, he looked at me like right in the face and he said, you know Mel, you've really changed. And I thought, yes, I have. Because I made a decision to don't expect your family to change because your family and your relationship and how you feel when you're with family is your responsibility. But don't be surprised that when you start to change and you get serious about what you want to feel and what you value in terms of how you show up as a daughter or a sister or a grandchild, that everything starts to change. And that's the power of your influence. This feels like a great moment to hit the pause button and let our sponsors share a few words with you. But while you're listening to them, share this with your family. Just imagine a world where everybody in your family is using let them and let me to create more acceptance and connection. How amazing would that be? It's not only amazing, it's actually possible. 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We're talking about how you use Let them and let me to create more connection and less drama and better relationships in your family. And I know you want that, which is why you're listening to this. Here's what I wanted to share with you next. So I'm sure you're sitting there wondering, okay, well, if you were able to change not only the family dynamic, Mel, for yourself, but also so much so that somebody in your family is commenting on it. What were you like before? I'd probably be your worst nightmare as a sister in law. Honestly, because I'm loud, I'm opinionated, or at least I used to be. This I'm still that way, but I really temper it. I had a lot of expectations and opinions about how things should go and my husband's family are full of amazing people who are also very opinionated. And so I would engage in the web of energy, which involved a lot of debating, a lot of poking and twisting. You know, it's almost like in every family, because there's dynamics between siblings, and then you bring in spouses and kids and grandkids. It's like the dynamic between the siblings starts to, again, ripple through the whole web. And so you've got three boys, very competitive at sports, at skiing with each other. They're all successful, except for my husband. And my husband's a successful person. I think he's the most amazing human being on the planet. But his success is not measured in money. His success is measured in the impact he makes in the lives of the men he works with and in his work as a death doula, and in who he is as a human being and how he shows up as a partner and as a father. And Chris comes from a family where the success is really celebrated in financial success, and that trickles all the way down through the generations. And so there's always been this kind of dynamic of competition and debating and lots of drinking at the table, which would always end in tears and fighting and somebody storming off. And a lot of that changed when Chris's father died, like, 14 years ago. And even though we all really like each other and I think everybody wants to be really close, there was always this, like, underlying. I don't know what it is, just disconnection. And I think that's true in a lot of families that you get together and you just really want to get along. And then all the old energy comes up. And so I just decided when I started getting serious about my own work on myself and being a better person and not feeling so anxious all the time or on edge all the time or insecure all the time, that as I started to try to settle my nervous system and just be more chill and be more loving and accepting and bring different energy, everything shifted because I opted out of the debates. I walk away from conversations where somebody in the family, whether it's my family or Chris's family, they want to stick in the knife and twist it. And a lot of times it's kind of jokes at my husband because I'm the breadwinner and he's not, and I just walk away from it. I don't say anything. And that doesn't mean that I'm rolling over. It means it's not worth my time and energy. If that's what you're going to do with your time. With your family, then do it. But I'm not going to give my time and energy to this. And as I slowly backed away from it, I noticed I wasn't affected by it. And what's interesting about that kind of form of bullying or that sort of instigating or that sort of antagonism which always comes from a desire to be seen, it comes from a place of actually wanting to connect in a weird and toxic way. But when I pulled away from that, it, like when somebody doesn't have a target, it starts to disappear. When there's nobody chiming in back to you, you're talking to yourself. And a lot of the times I think we are showing up in family in particular with old patterns and old behaviors and just kind of modeling what's always been done. And we don't mean to be hurting each other, but we are. And so instead of looking at my family members, whether it's my kids or it's my sibling or it is Chris's family, as the source of how I'm going to change this, because that's probably what you're doing, right? If only I can get my mom to stop making me feel guilty. If only I can get my sister in law to stop like talking politics. If only I could get my parents to stop playing favorites. You're looking at someone else as the source of all power in your life and that's how you give your power away. Other people are not responsible for your relationship with your family. You are. And when I finally realized that and started going, wait a minute, let them. Let them be who they are. Let them live their lives, let them have their opinions, let them have their emotions, let them do life however they're going to do life. The more I said let them, the better my life got and the better my family got and the more I could see people for who they were instead of getting sucked into the drama of the moment. And the more you can see the good in people, not just the small petty stuff in the moment. Because I'm not perfect. Like, I wouldn't like me as a sister in law based on how I used to be either. I wouldn't want somebody that competitive and that insecure and, you know, that opinionated. That wouldn't be fun. And you wouldn't want somebody like that either. And so I just really went to work on myself because I didn't like what it felt like to be me. And I definitely didn't like the tension and the competition and the friction that I felt in family. And it Wasn't there all the time, but I knew I was a part of it. And so that's why I say it's your responsibility. You want more fun, you want more connection, you want more peace? It begins with you. If you wish the people in your family saw the good in you, you gotta learn how to see the good in them. If you wish your mom or your dad would stop using a guilt trip to get you to come home for the holidays or to do things the way that you wish that they would do them, then you need to see that a guilt trip is like any other road trip. You get to decide if you're getting in the car or not. Let them be disappointed. You're not their parent. They're an adult. When you get, and here's the amazing thing, when you give adults the space to feel their emotions, it's kind of amazing how the emotion dissipates. When you engage and you try to manage and you try to wrestle people's opinions or emotions to the ground, that's when all this like friction stays together. There's a whole different way to do this and it has to do with just letting people be. And the more you let people be themselves, the better your relationships get and the more space you give to the family dynamic, the more you'll see the good in other people. And that brings me to this tool that we write about extensively in the let them theory. I'm going to turn to the page because I want to read to you. This tool is so important and I need to give credit to my buddy Lisa Bilyeu. Lisa Bilyeu is the founder of Quest Nutrition. She hosts this show called Women of Impact. She's a good friend of mine and she shared this tool called frame of reference. And frame of reference is a fancy way of just saying, have you even bothered to step into your parents shoes? Have you even bothered to step into your sister in law's or your brother's shoes? We're so focused on our own experience and our own history that we never take the time to step into someone else's shoes and try to see the situation from their point of view. And that's what frame of reference is. The second I started to go, oh, wait a minute, this is my parents first time being human too. Oh, wait a minute. What must it feel like to be a parent who loves their kid and the kid moves far away and you only see him three or four times a year? What must that be like? What's their frame of reference? Wow. All their friends have their family nearby. They don't. Of course they want to see you. Of course they're going to pressure you. Of course they're disappointed when they're not a priority. You know, we get so caught up in being upset or angry that mom wants it done this way and no, no, no, no, no. Have you stepped into her frame of reference and thought about the fact that this is her first time being human, too? It's her first time being a parent, too. It's her first time being a grandparent, too. You know, when you step into a wider family dynamic and you marry into a family, you have not been there since the beginning. You don't know what it's been like for all of the siblings this whole time because you weren't there. And so kind of going, let them makes you be the bigger person. It lets you see that this is a web of people. And if you want to be a part of it, then get serious about what are you going to bring to the web. Is it fun? Is it peace? Is it connection? Is it interest? Is it compassion? Is it a calm demeanor? Or are you going to bring your politics? You're going to bring your attitude, you're going to bring all the injury and upset you haven't worked out with the therapist? Are you going to bring your belief that we should just be one big happy family and just put everything to the side? Because those expectations also send shockwaves through the system. And that's why I'm going to keep on reminding you. And this is the coolest thing. You get to decide what your relationship with your family is. How cool is that? Imagine if you decided that you were going to, instead of icing everybody out, instead of being crossed, armed and tense about it, what if you were going to do the work and you're going to bring the let them theory to every family group chat, every gathering with your family, and you're going to let your sister do her thing, you're going to let the grandkids do their thing, and you're going to focus on how you show up. Are you starting to see how this can really help you? I sure hope so, because that's why I wanted to talk to you about this. And I'm going to tell you what else is going to help you. Listen to this with your family. Send this to everybody. Because if everybody has this information, even if they don't use it, trust me, it's going to work at a subconscious level. And that's going to help make things even more amazing with your family. Don't go anywhere. I'm going to be waiting for you after a short break. And boy, do I have something important to share when we return. 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