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Nearly everything is really interesting if you go deeply enough into it. Work as hard and as much as you want on the things that you like to do best. Don't think about what you want to be, but think about what you want to do. I think that's the perfect example of what we should be focusing on in this life, because the amazing part about being a human is that we are the only species alive on this earth that can choose our craft, choose what we're going to dedicate our life to, and to choose to become obsessed with it and to practice it for years and to eventually become one of the best world class at that thing. And I don't mean, like, just good at something, and I don't mean just getting paid for it. I mean, like, you becoming exceptional at something, at anything that you really care about, you know? And I don't. I don't care what it is. You could be the best violinist that you could possibly be. You could be a YouTuber, you could dedicate your life to be an amazing chess player. You can become obsessed with becoming a jiu jitsu master and then coach people at it. You could be an amazing sneaker designer. You could decide that you want to be one of the best tattoo artists in the world.

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You could be the best damn coffee shop owner that is in your city. But the idea is that you're trying to reach a level of mastery that is only exceptional to you where you're going. I'm going to be world class at this thing. Not because I'm trying to impress people or because I'm trying to make money doing it, but because of the fact that. That this is something that I love. And to get to the point where people stop and stare and they're like, whoa, it is really cool to watch this person do this thing. Because that's not normal. You know, it's not easy to get there. But it is available to every single person that's alive. And most people, 99.9% of people die without ever tasting greatness in their life. Why? Because mastering something, anything, takes a lot. It takes a lot of time. It takes a lot of obsession. It takes a whole hell of a lot of repetition. It takes a lot of getting out of your comfort zone because you're constantly challenging yourself to be better at this thing. And most people are not willing to put in the effort and dedicate their life to something, but you can. And I always think about the 10,000 hour rule, which you've probably heard of the 10,000 hour rule, but basically, this is what it means. It takes roughly 10,000 hours of deliberate practice to become world class at something. Now, deliberate practice doesn't mean that you, you decide you want to play the guitar and then you practice the same three chords for 10,000 hours. Deliberate practice means that you're on your edge and you're messing up and you're failing and you're getting better. You're messing up and failing and getting better. And that is 10,000 hours of deliberate practice. And you know, people always ask, like, well, is it 7,000 hours? Is it 20,000 hours? Is it 10,000? The number doesn't actually matter. What matters is the principle. And that's the thing that I love about it. Like, I actually have a tattoo on my wrist that is the roman numeral for 10,000. It's an X with a line above it. Because I want to remind myself that I am trying to master this thing that I'm doing. And one of the things that I'm trying to master more than anything else is me. I'm trying to get into self mastery. And so when you look at mastery, mastery is basically time plus focus plus feedback. You need to put a lot of time into something. You need to put a lot of focus into it. You need some sort of feedback to tell you where you need to get better and where you can improve. And then there's one extra multiplier that I would in there is love. Like, if you love something, if you truly love that thing and you love doing it, you will practice longer and harder and more than anyone else. Not because you have to, but because you actually love to do it, because you can't not do it. And that's what separates the exceptional from the decent. It's not talent. It's not luck. It's none of that. It's just time spent enjoying the reps. And, you know, a lot of people, the paradox of all of this is that what most people chase in this world is money instead of mastery. But often the people who make the most money are the ones who chose mastery first, the ones who decided to go for something that they love and something that they're passionate about. Like, there's a quote that I love that Oprah said, which is. Which is passion comes first. Money should always come second. Now, mastery is not like the shortcut to wealth, because, you know, you might be interested in something that nobody's going.

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About how much money you make. Like, there's some people who master something and nobody pays for that thing. There's some people who make millions of dollars with half of the skill of someone who's mastered something. But the truth of it is, mastery really, more than anything else, creates a lot of leverage. Like, when you are a master at something, people will seek you out for that thing. When you are a master at something, the name that you have builds your brand. When you're a master at something, you can get paid for your opinion and your consultation to somebody, not just for your labor. You know, if you look at, like, somebody who's mastered something, one of the quotes that I love or, you know, I don't know if it's a true story or not, but it's about Picasso. And a woman came up to Picasso when he was at a French cafe, and she asked him to sketch on a napkin at the cafe. And he took his pen and he quickly just drew one. And she was like, oh, my gosh, this is amazing. It took you three minutes to do this. And then he gave her some crazy price. It was like 10,000 francs or whatever it was. And she's like, oh, my God, 10,000 francs. Like, this only took you two minutes to draw. And he replied, no, it took me my whole life. And it, like, illustrates the fact that he has dedicated his entire life to be able to make something that looks so amazing in three minutes. And that's what comes from a lifetime of dedication and skill to take your. Your. Your craft and master something and do it really quickly so that somebody will pay you a lot for it. And so, you know, will you find something that the world will reward with money? Maybe, maybe not. That shouldn't be what you're actually trying to figure out, like, can I get paid for this thing? You still want to get better at something because what you get out of becoming better is the satisfaction of becoming better knowing that you are really good at something that is a great feeling and that you're improving all of the time and that your hours weren't wasted scrolling on your phone or just, you know, watching tv. But you put hours into mastering something that you've earned every single ounce of your skill. It's like Tony Robbins always says. He always says progress equals happiness. Like, I know from all of the research that I've done on humans and psychology and neurology that humans need something to work towards. Like it is built into the circuitry of our brain. And very rarely do you find a depressed person who's working hard at something that they enjoy or working hard at mastery. Usually someone that's depressed comes from people who feel stagnant in life and they're not moving towards something. And so what you have to start thinking about is I need to pick one thing. Like, you don't have to master everything. And in fact, you cannot master everything. You will not be able to. But you have to pick one thing. Just something. Something to lose yourself in, something to become obsessed over, something to train yourself in.

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What do you love?

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That's the first thing. Second thing, what are you good at? Like, what are you actually pretty good at? Not like a master, but, like, what.

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Bit of skill in? Okay, number three is what does the world need?

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And then number four is what can.

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And what can you be paid for? And then number five, this is not part of ikigai, but this is like ikigai. Plus, this is what I always added when I'm talking with people is what are you really interested in getting better at? Like, what are you interested. What. What looks like work to everybody else but feels like play to you? And you try to figure out if there's some overlap in what it is that you have there. If I would have found ikigai when I was younger, I would have found out that I should be doing what I'm doing now, probably five years earlier than I started. And the reason why is because, like, if I were to write down all the things that I love and what I'm good at and what the world needs, I would have eventually found this because, like, what do I love? I love neurology and psychology and reading textbooks about things that people would never want to read. Like, I love geeking out on that. What am I good at? You know, when I was younger, I was I became obsessed after I was thrown into public speaking and becoming the best public speaker I possibly could. And by the time I was 25, I had like over 10,000 hours of public speaking experience. So I thought I was pretty good.

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Right?

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What does the world need? I think the world needs mindset and psychology and help and healing and all of that. And then what can I be paid for? Well, now you can be paid for podcasting. When I first started, you couldn't.

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But public speaking, coaching, any of this.

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I would have eventually found hopefully where I am now if I would have known what Ikigai was back before I first started. And so you can go over those five questions and start to see if there's any overlap. And if you do, there's probably something that you're going to find that is something that you could become better at. And if you don't find anything, then you need to wake up every single morning, you need to look out at the sky and you need to say, I want to find out what I'm passionate about. And make that, like, your focus for the day, every single day until you find it. It's okay not to know what your passion or your purpose is in this life, but it is not okay to not wake up every single day and try to figure out what it is. Because I don't want you to get to end your life and just have nothing that you are passionate about, have nothing that you are exceptional at. Right? That's what I want you to get towards. And that's where most people don't get to. But you don't have to be one of those people, you know, you don't have to try to be the richest person that does xyz. You just have to find something that you can be exceptional at. If you do that, it will change your entire life. It will rewire how you see yourself. It'll build confidence that nobody in this world can fake. It attracts opportunities and people that you could have never imagined or planned for. And so what I want you to do is try to figure out what your pursuit is. Get obsessed with it, Put hours into it, celebrate your plateaus and your setback, and then just keep going, even when it gets boring, because that's about the time where it starts to shift. Most people quit when they're bored at something and they never find something they can master. Master something, keep going. And that's where the real magic actually happens. So that's what I got for you for today's episode. If you love this episode, please share it on the Instagram Stories. Tag me Obdial Junior R O B D I A L J R if you're interested in learning more about coaching with me outside of this podcast, I have programs that go from 12 weeks all the way up to 12 months to help you learn and grow and improve and master yourself. So if you'd like to learn more about it, go to coachwithrob.com, once again, coachwithrob.com and with that, I'm gonna leave you the same way. Leave you every single episode. Make it your mission to make somebody else's day better. I appreciate you and I hope that you have an amazing day. You want me to do an end card?

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