
This week, Morgan recounts her run-in with Sebastian Maniscalco, updates us on her birthday plans, and reveals the mega icon who sent her a text. Then, Morgan welcomes cultural icon, Hilary Duff, to discuss her go-to pre-concert drink, her Mahjong coach, and her new album, luck… or something.
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It's my first day of work and I need to make a big impression from executive producer Mindy Kaling. This is our sexual harassment training. Hands off your coworkers.
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Now sign this saying that I trained you or you're fired.
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Yes, ma'. Am. Work relationships are too messy. I just met the woman of my dreams. You gotta chill out and not come on too strong. That goes against my entire personality, but I'll try. Watch the new Hulu original series not suitable for work. Premiering June 2nd on Hulu and Hulu on Disney for bundle subscribers. Terms apply. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile with a message for everyone paying big wireless way too much. Please, for the love of everything good in this world, stop with Mint. You can get premium wireless for just $15 a month. Of course, if you enjoy overpaying. No judgments. But that's weird. Okay, one judgment. Anyway. Give it a try@mintmobile.com Switch upfront payment of $45 for 3 month plan equivalent to $15 per month. Required intro rate first 3 months only, then full price plan options available, taxes and fees extra. See full terms@mintmobile.com. hey, everyone. I'm Morgan Stewart, and welcome to the Morgan Stewart Show. I'm gonna be talking about pop culture, fashion, my personal life, and just a warning, I will be giving my opinions on everything. And those opinions are subject to change. Okay, now let's get into it. Okay, you guys, I'm so excited. I just had the most fun encounter of all encounters. So to give you a little backstory, and I'm a little flustered because my adrenaline is pumping. We scheduled Sebastian Maniscalco to come on the show two. How long? Two months ago. Two months ago. He's new to Sirius. He has his own radio show. And they were like, that would be great crossover. Like, let's get Sebastian, blah, blah, blah. I was like, let's get him. So we were so excited. We were all pumped. Legitimate guests gonna have him on. And then he canceled. And because he was busy, his schedule was busy. And I was like, fine, you know what? Fuck. That doesn't matter. So I just got finished recording an episode with Jason Bolden, and I'm doing like a little solo topper with you guys. Cause we have things to talk about. I want to go over some stuff that's been going on in my life, and I go outside to pee and I can't even remember how this happened. But my producer, Cody, you were like, oh, Sebastian Maniscalco is recording? Wait, first of all, he's recording next door to me. But he is recording in the studio that I usually record from every single week. Okay. So he bumped me out of my own fucking studio. Which I guess that's what happens when you're a huge star and you have like, you know, all the things on Netflix and all the comedy shows and all the stuff. So I got bumped. So I was a little disoriented in how fast am I talking? There's a lot of things happening. Got bumped to a different studio. And what happened was I just went over and I plopped myself right into his live show and I just said, hi, you were supposed to come in the Morgan Stewart show and you didn't. You canceled. He could not have been nicer. And he told me about his weekend. He went to a Ronda Rousey fight, which. Did we even know she was still fighting? I didn't. It was her return to fighting. Her valiant return.
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Yeah.
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Oh, valiant return. Okay. So she returned and I had told him the story about how he was supposed to be scheduled on the Morgan Stewart show and he canceled. And he let me know that he went to the Ronda Rousey fight in Vegas over the weekend. Netflix had invited him and they did not show him in the celeb lineup during the fight. And some of the people that they showed, I mean, over Sebastian, I was kind of cringing for him. First it was Carmen. Carmen Electra. Who? I mean, Carmen Electra. Jessica, do you know who Carmen Electra is? My assistant doesn't know who that is. She's 29. Carmen Electra is a actress, former playmate, married to Dennis Rodman, an icon of our generation. Cody, like, she is gorgeous. She looks amazing. No, I was gonna say, I just looked her up. I definitely know who she is. Okay. Thank God. Thank God. She's like, I googled her. I know who she is. So he then proceeds to tell me about all these people at the fight. And he did not get shown in the famous person lineup. And I was like, cringe, like, maybe you don't need to be on the. No, he does. So he's coming on. So that was very exciting and a fun little serendipitous moment. And I was like, I have to jump on the mic and tell you guys. Okay. We have lots to discuss. Number uno. It is my birthday on Friday, May 22. She's a gorgeous girly. And I'm so excited because I'm gonna be having a dinner party at my house with 22 people. It's gonna be a long sit down dinner. And at the beginning of the Month. And I do this every single birthday because I am such a birthday freak. Like, I am not joking. I think it is the biggest day of the year. I think it is something that you should take seriously. I think it's something that you should celebrate and you should make sure you make it a big deal for yourself because nobody is gonna celebrate you more than yourself. So you should hype yourself up and just appreciate the day that you came into this planet. Every single person that I went to elementary school with knows that it is my birthday on Friday because I told them at the beginning of the year that on May 22, it's my birthday and don't make plans. There's nothing chill about me with my birthday. I don't do like a whole birthday month, but I'll do like a birthday week. And like, you know, as I've gotten older, it is kind of. It's sad because the day comes and goes pretty quickly and you're like, not as excited as you were as a kid. But anyway, beginning of the month, I was like, what am I gonna do for my birthday? I was like, I don't really feel like having another party because now I'm at that, like mid range age in the 30s, where it's like, everybody does a dance party, but every motherfucker is talking over loud music. They are not dancing. So then it just becomes a completely uncomfortable environment where you're like, it's too loud to talk and then you don't have a voice the next day you need to dance and have fun or you need to have lower music. So I was like, I don't want to do another party vibe. Does that make you know what I'm saying? It just doesn't work. And I don't want to talk to you about your fucking kids over a bad ACDC song. I don't. I don't care. I don't give a fat shit. I want you to do weird drugs or, I don't know, to talk about something inappropriate. I had a party last year. It was fun. It was like, it wasn't that fun. It was fine. I was bopping around and trying to make sure everyone else had fun. So this year I was like, it came to me like a vision. I was like, I am doing a sophisticated sit down dinner that's gonna be low level steaks and it's gonna be so fun because there's no pressure. And I think what makes for a good party is when there's no pressure. And I put a lot of pressure on everything. Because I'm not chill, but I feel very good about this. So 22 people outside in my backyard. I'm doing a long table. I picked all of my, like, tablecloth settings very early on in the month. It was like a one stop shop. And I do this for every party. Tablecloth. I rent plates and I do glassware. We have the glassware, flowers. We're doing candles everywhere. Like, I truly like to set a mood. We're not doing dj, we are doing playlist, which I've been adding to, which I've been playing back because you need to have a mix. Needs to be like upbeat songs, but also chill songs. And another thing, I do not know what I'm gonna wear to this birthday. And I don't know if you've heard. Well, I haven't told you officially, but I may be on TikTok. I am not buying clothes anymore.
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I.
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My assistant's laughing. I am on a shopping hiatus because what was happening was I was over buying to the point where I was forgetting about things and trying to, like, fill a hole in some capacity of like, some fashion hole that I thought, like, buying new stuff was gonna, like, make it easier for me to get dressed. And it actually did the contrary and made it difficult. And I felt like everything in the room was spacing out and I had so many options that I couldn't figure out what I wanted to wear. So that was a long winded way of me telling you guys that my birthday outfit is going to. I know, Take a second. It's gonna be a makeshift outfit that I come together on. Like, I'm not buying something new. It's gonna ha. I mean, I have an idea of what it is. It's a shirt that I haven't worn yet, and it's a pair of shorts I haven't worn yet. I will not try it on until Friday. I am allergic to trying things on. I don't. I feel like the energy has to, like, be authentic and it has to, like, come together in the right moment. If I try those shorts and that shirt on too prematurely, it's not gonna fit. And I tell me. I'm begging you to try it on. I know I'm not Friday. I know, because everyone knows I'm gonna have a full panic. But I'm not going to because I am. What I'm doing is I am envisioning myself in this outfit and I know it's gonna work. And I'm telling you guys, so many of you have followed me for so long and all the different looks that I've thrown together, I have never. Aside from like a literal gown. 4e because of television, I don't try anything on. So I'm really excited. I think the birthday's gonna be really great. But I also wanna say on Sunday, I don't know when this is airing, but a Sunday. I literally was with Susan from 9:45. I'm not kidding. Until 3:30, I tried on over 65 pairs of jeans, vintage Levi's and designer jeans. And I got rid of all of those jeans because they do not look good. They didn't fit. They were the wrong. For whatever reason, wrong wash. I mean, things that I have had for like 15 years that I'm like, this is just cluttering my space. I'm not joking. I feel better, I feel lighter, I feel more clear. I feel like I'm able to like get dressed. I'm. I'm just shopping my closet. I mean the outfit I have on today, I'm wearing a yellow. If you're listening and not watching, I'm wearing a yellow button down in a lime green chartreuse leather pant with a pink Valentino heel. Hold on. Oh, tight hamstrings. And this is one of the better outfits on, I've had on for a long time because I'm just, I'm getting creative again. You know what I mean? Guys, the birthday's gonna be great. I'm clearing out my closet. I'm really also, I haven't perfected it, but I am trying to stay off my phone for an hour before bed and in the morning. I'm not trying to grab it first thing because I was grabbing it and texting bitches with one eye open and it was becoming crazy and I was becoming disorganized and scattered. And I'm also trying to have more positive self talk. I know, I know because I'm constantly like, oh, how tired do I look? Or this isn't da da da. It's just constantly negative. And so now I am bringing light into my life. I'm saying that I'm wonderful. I deserve X, Y and z. Like I'm really trying to bring in positive chat. And I think it's also, it's helped me quite a bit. And another thing, I love these, I love these updates. I feel like it's so important for you guys to know everything going on in my brain and in my life. I am in a position now where I've kind of turned the corner at the gym and I'm loving going. I Mean, okay, granted, we had a 7. The 7am that I have booked on Mondays is becoming very challenging. I don't think that's for me. I think we need to ask her to Change that to 8.7am on Monday. By the way, I smoked a joint on Sunday. I don't know when this is airing, but on a Sunday. I could not. It's Wednesday. I still have a headache. I just can't be doing stuff like that. It's just not for me anymore. Okay, Jim, I am, like, turning into the girl. You go to the gym for six months when you start up, and you're like, I hate it. This is awful. And then somewhere along the lines, you just get better. You get stronger, you feel better. And I'm starting out my workouts on the treadmill every single day or every single time I work out, and it just makes me feel so much better. And I know that that's like, duh. Moving your body always makes you feel good, but sometimes it's just like you're not in a groove at the gym for a long time. And so, I don't know, I feel really good. I'm currently also looking at an Instagram photo of myself. I'm like, am I posting this Instagram or not? Should we let him know the big news now? Okay, guys, I had one of the crazier moments happen, and actually, it correlates to the gym. So I'm at the gym two weeks ago. Two weeks ago? Yeah, like three weeks ago. Three weeks ago. Two or three. I'm on the treadmill. Let me read the text first. Okay, Morgan. Exclamation, exclamation, exclamation. It's none other than. Drum roll, please. If you're in the car, I really want you guys to take a second. This name is no joke. I really want us to be in this together. It's Kris Jenner. No, I know. No, I know. Wow. In all caps. Wow. Wow. You made my day. Exclamation, exclamation, Exclamation, exclamation. So four exclamation points. Thank you for your kind and generous critique on my Met Gal Look. So sweet. It meant the world to me. White heart, praying hands. Guys, I didn't know what to do. I, like, looked around on the roof to make sure there was, like, not a SWAT team or, like, that, like, a whole network hadn't been canceled. Like, I didn't even know how to process the information. I immediately just screenshotted it and sent it to my husband and to my best Friends and then to the producer of the Morgan Stewart show because I didn't know what. I literally froze on the street and like looked around and like, I've seen Chris in passing. She's always been a queen. But for her to go out of her way to text me such a nice message, she could have. I mean, this woman has been so famous for so long, she could have just seen the clip or whatever. However it was sent to her and gone on with her day. The fact that she took time to get my number via Khloe Kardashian I thought was the sweetest thing ever. So I obviously responded with, I am framing this text. I couldn't believe your look. It was so elevated and so fashion, comma, the colors and the silhouettes with the glam and hair. Unreal. Whoever put you in this, keep them around forever. It was perfect. Do you love it? Do you love that fucking response?
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I know.
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And then of course I got, then I turned into my own version of Kris Jenner because I was like, I would be remiss if I said, I know your days are scheduled to the millisecond, but if there is any shot in fuck hell that you can get your butt to Morgan Stewart show to talk about anything, you. I don't care if she wants to talk about a caterpillar for two hours. I'll, I'll sit there and go on that journey with her. And she said, okay, I'll tell the team with a kiss emoji. I mean, I don't even that 80s kiss emoji. Like so glamour, so glamour, high end. I don't know why I thought of like a 1988 white SL Mercedes Benz. Like I just felt like there was red lipstick, there was gold. I felt like Beverly Hills in the heyday. Like everything aligned for me that day. It really did. Saie is a clean, high performance makeup brand whose formulas don't just look amazing on. They are actually good for your skin. Working to improve it over time. Saie essentials are elevated, effortless and easy to use. 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Don't have a model. Don't have creative locked. Don't know what accessories I'm bringing. Like, the week is just cuckoo crazy and I need to, like, organize myself. And for some reason, the days are flying by. They're like two hours long. And then my assistant is getting married on my time. So she's gonna be gone for two fucking weeks, which is just so fun. We're so happy for her. And my life is gonna run smoothly, perfectly. We're even setting up. You know what we're doing my genius idea. We're setting up an alt email for anybody that emails her that I can check because I don't want to be giving out my personal email to everybody because, like, I'm not accessible to the world. That's crazy. Um, and so I'm going to probably ignore all of the emails that come through. I'm definitely going to miss lots of meetings. I don't even know how I'm going to. I guess I'm going to have to go to the market. I haven't been to. I go to the market for like, under six items. Like, the bulk of the shopping is getting done. And I am good about knowing what we don't have. And I'm cooking quite a bit. I'm really maternal, guys. I'm cooking, making lunches. I'm doing all that stuff. But going to the market, there's a whole system for that. Right. Because you gotta get there early. First of all, you don't get everything from one market. True. There's like. I don't. We're in America. We're in Los Angeles, California, and it takes four fucking markets to get everything you need. I don't understand how we don't have one market that has everything. And don't get me started on Erewhon in Beverly Hills. I feel like that's a Sims character. That's like a game. Like there's no room. I had a full panic attack there a year and a half ago. There's nowhere to walk in the aisle. I don't want to go there. So I'm going to have to go to all the markets. And here's the thing. I'm not going to instacart things. I can't stand instacart. Like, right. Well, because I don't trust them to pull the right vegetables. They're not going to. I've gotten so many, like, floppy, bad vegetables. Oh, my God. I can't let another person do it. It's disgusting. Okay. The word floppy makes I think of really bad dick. And I don't want to talk about that ever on this show. I don't want. I don't. By the way.
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I haven't even had it.
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But I just don't even want to think about it. It just floppy sets me. It sends me. It sends me to a place that I don't want to think about.
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Nope.
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So to your point, I don't need a floppy carrot showing up. I want only organic. But it's going to take me four markets to do it. I'm going to have to do it early because let me tell you the other thing that's going on. While my assistant's out for two and a half weeks. Oh. And then she comes back and then has another wedding. So when I hired my assistant, she was like, I really want this job. First of all, she drives two and a half hours to me and two and a half hours home. I want everyone to pause on that. I made it very clear from the beginning when everyone told me not to hire because it was crazy, I said, you're not gonna wanna keep doing this. It's nuts. But I am so likable that we're six months. In five months. We're almost nine months. I think nine, I think, was September 9th. Well, you know, I don't know. Is it nine months? Yeah. Cause we're almost to June, okay? So nine months of driving four hours to work. I want everyone to know that is because I'm wonderful. Because no one's driving four hours, okay. With a husband in tow if you're not, great. So that says a lot about me, which I'm excited about. But in the midst of this. So then she comes back and then she has a wedding. Cause when I hired her, she's like, I wanna work here. I'll drive. But I have 68 weddings that I have to go to this year. Because I guess if you're 28 and 29 years old, everyone's getting married. You're not gonna know these people in five years, and they're all gonna get divorced anyway. So, like, I don't need you to go to every wedding. I did draw a hard line. I said, september. Or did you draw that line? I was like, this Fashion Week, I said, I'm not going to the Bachelorette. Priorities. We're off to the races. We can't go to everyone's wedding. You can't be a part of 68 Weddings. So she comes back, then she has to leave early on a Friday, and then I'm going out of town. But in the midst of her leaving, Susan also is leaving. Oh, yeah.
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No.
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This bitch is out of her mind. So she is usually like my, you know, help with everything, Help with market, help with dinner, help with, you know, raising my children. I mean, she's obviously like, my right hand in a lot of things. And she told me, quote, I'm going at the beginning of June because I don't have the rest of my life to wait. I was like, okay. It was very dramatic. She said, no fucking way. I'm going to my house in Switzerland. I'm gonna wait for you. And so what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna be alone with nothing for two weeks, probably eating, I don't know, out of an old chicken bag. How am I even gonna get to set? And then I am going to travel internationally by myself with my two toddlers in tow, because my mom wants me to basically take them and have a week solo with her for, like, some boot camp. And Some like grounding and some like getting some spoiled shit out of them and having them be real people. Like I had to do with like the cows and all the shit. So I literally. The cows and the shit. And I have to take my kids to Europe, which I'm so grateful to do that by myself on an airplane. My husband is coming a week and a half later, so he's golfing three days before I leave because he needs to be centered. And then I travel alone with him and then he gets a whole week of just doing whatever. But you know what's so fucked up? I can't even blame him because I made the plan. I can't even blame him because I literally was like, oh, yeah. So I'm gonna be jet lagged with my two kids and my mom who's going to tell me to get off the phone the whole fucking time. But she does get a good candid shot of me. I don't have one photo, by the way. Jessica took 6,000 photos of me. They're all terrible. I feel like my 101 year old grandmother who literally had a stroke six months ago, took these photos. I'm one eye open. We got to find our spot. I need a good photo. I really do. So you're going to have to pray for me because it is going to be quite the adventure doing that. And then, and then I'm going on a boat with my friends and my family or, well, my husband as my family and then I'm going with other friends on the boat, which I, I have to tell you, I'm so excited about because we took hiatus last year and. Cause I was like, here's the thing, let's get into really unrelatable content. We might as well, right? Cause that's why you come to the Morgan Stewart Show. So we have chartered about. When Jordan and I first met, his parents chartered a boat. It was the first time I had ever gone on a yacht. It was really one of the most surreal, unbelievable experiences. Then when we got married, his parents had gotten a boat like two times. And then we decided like, let's take this over. Which I know sounds, I mean, like what the fuck did I just say? In English out loud to like people listening to this, driving to their job, like, it's, it's completely off the fucking Richter planet. It doesn't make any sense. But anyway, we are able to do that. We're very fortunate to do that. And we have done it for three years. We go with the same group of people. And last year what happens is when you charter a boat, obviously a chef and all the crew and everybody comes on the boat, and sometimes you don't always get a good chef and you're stuck in the middle of the ocean, and when you're spending such a chunky Penny, you don't really want to risk it. So last year, being so humble, I was like, we can't do that. We can't be in a position where, like, you want a grilled cheese and they're giving you ceviche. Like, we just need to be able to just go, just take a time out. So we're getting back on the boat train this summer for one week, and I'm really excited. I feel, like a new appreciation for it. I feel a new excitement for it. I feel like, obviously last summer, without getting into the same bullshit over and over, was a horrific summer. So this summer, all the outfits I didn't get to wear last summer, I'm gonna wear. I'm shopping my closet. I'm gonna go through all of my bathing suits and make sure that I'm prepared. You know what I mean? It's gonna be really good content. Also, one of the girls that's been helping me with my social lately is gonna be on the boat, which just the convenience of that. There's nothing better. There's nothing better than knowing you're not gonna have to irritate your husband, you're not gonna have to irritate your friends. Because the problem with me, which is so lame, is if I don't have good content, which I wanna be clear about, if I don't have good, like the trip or the dinner or the lunch. Can't start without the content. And if you're really actually cool, what you do is you just live and you have fun and someone gets, like, a photo of you drunk. But I can't rely on that. I can't rely on that. And what happens if it doesn't happen? So there's that whole thing. And I also have completely forgotten how to take a photo. I don't know. I'm not one. I'm not one within. Because I want to be candid and like, oh, I didn't know you were taking that. But then meanwhile, I'm like, this is horrible, and I need to stare at you and put my hand on my hip. Die. I'm like, I'm so boomer. I'm like, still fake walking into the frame.
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I'll kill myself.
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No. I'll kill myself.
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No.
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It's out of control. What Am I doing okay? Another fun fact, and this is a topper to a very exciting episode. And the way my life works is, like, energetically, it is very aligned. There are no mistakes. There are no accidents. Everything is always for the cause of something else. And I usually look back and there's just always a reason that things happened or things were, like, meant to form that way or come together that way. I was working out with my trainer two weeks ago. Whatever. I'm on the treadmill and randomly out of nowhere. I had never spoken to her about guests on the show. I don't really talk to her that much about the show. We kind of just make fun of me not being able to work out that well. And she was like, you know, you should have on the show. I said, who? She goes, hilary Duff. And I said, what? And we were in the midst of, like, working out the details with Hillary's team. Like, we were trying to get everything going. She's doing a concert for Sirius. So they were like, well, you should go on the show. Blah, blah, all this stuff. And I said, that's so crazy. Like, we've been thinking about it. She goes, you know, I absolutely love her. I think she's such a role model. And I'm so inspired by the fact that she's encouraging young women and men to start lifting weights because she has that, I guess, that campaign with. With ladder. And it was so wild because literally a week later, they were like, hillary's confirmed and you're going to talk to her. So it was just, like, so meant to be. And when I tell you, I mean, Hilary Duff obviously has been our icon. Our icon and our queen for so long. I don't think. And I said this to her, but she's been so likable for so long. Like, we've never gone through an anti Hilary Duff phase. There's been no drama. Like, she has been consistently liked and sought after for her. I think she told me she had been working since she was nine. I mean, the girl has been on fire for a long time. Okay. So I went to the El Rey Theater. I met Hillary. We chatted on. What did we chat? I don't even know what. We were sitting on, like, large boxes, which I got to sit applesauce, crisscross applesauce, which was, like, my favorite way to sit, AKA daily pop days. I just hate sitting in a chair where I can't, like, have a leg up. It's wild. But she's lovely, so fun. I really want her to, like, get that Chore done with. So we can like, go. I won't give anything away because I'm gonna, like, obviously you guys are gonna listen and watch this next. But like, we have lots of fun plans that involve yachts, which I'll. I'll handle logistics. I just need Hillary to come and like, single and no kids. I didn't tell her. I should have told her. Clearly, like, we're not. She's got four of them, I've got two of them. I don't want to see him on the boat. I don't know. That might be a hard ask with her. I know things. She wants to. I know she. I mean, okay.
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I can't.
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We have to move on from Hillary, you guys. You'll listen later because then what's gonna happen is I'm gonna give away some things she said and I was like, oh, okay, okay, guys, I'm obsessed with you. I'm obsessed with these little catch ups. I think I'm gonna probably do catch ups more in the future. Like just do a catch up and then we'll talk about pop culture stuff. We're really conceptualizing the show. Okay, so I spoke about Hilary Duff. Without further ado, I'm so excited for you guys to listen. She is our fucking queen, our fucking icon. There's a break and then you get to listen. Okay, bye. So much fun. Bye. Saie is a clean, high performance makeup brand whose formulas don't just look amazing on, they are actually good for your skin, working to improve it over time. Stay essentials are elevated, effortless and easy to use. Their award winning bestseller Glowy Super Gel is the easiest way to glow. It's lightweight and the forever first step to that lit from within. No makeup. Makeup Radiance and their Dew Blush is the most blendable and buildable liquid cream blush and delivers a gorgeous stained glass effect to the cheeks. Say goodbye to harsh lines. Our creamy formula blends seamlessly for a wash of color that's never patchy or streaky. Then finish your look with the City Set Setting spray which sets makeup for up to 16 hours and has the most luxurious aerosol free application application. The formula is so low weight and leaves a gorgeous natural dewiness to the skin. Find say@sephora.com and every Sephora store across the United States and canada@sayhello.com this show is sponsored by BetterHelp. If you've been feeling overwhelmed, stuck, anxious or unsure, that's okay. Those feelings are more common than we think. May is mental health awareness month. A good reminder you don't have to go through those feelings alone. Having someone with you to listen, to understand and to support you can make all the difference. Whatever is keeping you up at night Therapy with Better Help can help you check in with yourself and gain support from experienced professionals. BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform. Just take a short questionnaire to identify your needs and preferences and Better Help will handle the initial therapist matching work for you. Feel confident knowing Better Help therapists work according to a strict code of conduct and are fully licensed in the US you don't have to be on this journey alone. Find support and have someone with you in therapy. Sign up and get 10% off@betterhelp.com Morganstromtra that's better. H E L P.com Morgan Stewart. I want all of you to act like a live fucking audience because you're standing here. So I just want to say, first and foremost, Hilary Duff, welcome to the Morgan Stewart Show.
B
Thank you. I'm so.
A
Are we not clapping?
B
Hello. She was looking for more.
A
I wanted like, we have a superstar icon. First of all, do you know how beloved you are?
B
Genuinely, I have a small idea. Like, I have to tell you, I didn't think I had an understanding of it for such a long time until this year. And I'm like, oh, weird.
A
I wanna just let you know that I have a trainer that I work out with once a week. And out of nowhere, I had never spoken about you. She had no idea that this was like in the pipeline. She goes, you know who you should really try to have on the podcast? I said, who? She goes, hilary Duff. I go, okay, let me just try to pull that out of my ass. That's not gonna happen. And she goes, I'm so inspired by her and I'm so happy that she's encouraging women to lift weights.
B
Oh, that's so nice. And then she just manifested it for you?
A
And a week later they were like, well, she's confirmed. I was like, thank God. Okay, I want to talk about the album.
B
Okay.
A
I've been listening to it with my 5 year old daughter every single day. I have a favorite song on the album.
B
Okay? I'm desperate to know what it is.
A
What do you think it is?
B
I don't know you well enough yet to know. Try to guess. Feel it.
A
Okay. Starts with an F. Future Trippin. Are you in my mind with Future Trippin?
B
I'm like, maybe that's the only one with an F. I don't know.
A
Well, I did give you a big Hit. I love them all, but Future Trippin for me, first of all, just like the whole sound of it, but the lyrics, the. Inside my brain thinking about future problems.
B
Yes.
A
Talk to me about that song and writing that song.
B
Okay, so this is an. Actually, it's an interesting one because it started off being truly a picture inside my head of the things that I. I freak out about that, like, actually ruins my husband's life for a little while. Like microplastics. And like, every once in a while he'll be like, where is our? And I'm like, it had to go like, you know, when it hits the pan, then all of a sudden, like, these things are real, like. Or just all the other things that, like, just get removed out of our household. Or, like, future fears that, like, aren't real. They're real, but, like, we have to, like, live with them in a way and, like, manage them differently. And then I. We wrote this, the song, and it was called Future Tripping, but it was not about, like a relationship. And then it came to me later and I was like, we have to rewrite it and it has to be about. It has to be like a love story.
A
Okay, so it's not autobiography, like autobiographical. I know the word. Don't worry. Because when I listened to the lyrics, I was like, this really resonates with me. Cause obviously I am married, I have children. And I feel like when you're in a committed relationship with somebody that you love, you have kids with, you think about your relationship more as like, okay, are we getting all these things in? Yeah, right.
B
Well, 100%. And it's really hard to talk about because I say, you know, I speak on the topic and then all of a sudden someone's like, pulled a little quote out and they're like, he's clearly cheated on her. She wouldn't feel this way. And I'm like, no, no, no. I'm just a female and I'm out of my mind. And I'll just make up a story one day and be like, but what if this happens? And he's like, you're absolutely out of your mind. Where does this come from? What are you talking about? Yeah. No. And then I get to write a song about it.
A
No, I love the song. The album is so good.
B
I want to know.
A
I mean, I know that you wrote the album, recorded the album, produced the album with your man. Yeah. How was that experience? Well, first I wanted. It's a two parter question. Get ready. Why did you decide to write the album and how was that recording with him?
B
Oh, my gosh. Well, recording with him is my favorite thing ever because he's just so easy, and he's my number one cheerleader. And he. I know. It's. It's just actually really that sweet. Like, he's so good egg. He's the.
A
Like, he's been scoping shit out here.
B
I've been watching him.
A
I'm like, he's on top of his shit.
B
He works so hard for me, that guy.
A
Where is he? Can we get a wave? Yeah. Anyway, he's been on top of it.
B
He's probably hiding. Cause I'm talking about him. But he's just the best. And I. You know, I literally woke up one day and I was like, hey, I want to make a record. And he was like, okay. Like, let me think about this. And we're gonna do this, and then we're gonna do it your way, and you're going to, like, guide the ship. And no one, like, no one was involved in the beginning, really, or, like, actually all the way through the entire process, like, until the album was done. It was so, like, homegrown. And it was really nice to not have outside opinions. But then also, there was no one, like, championing it except for us.
A
You guys, like, were in your own little, like, bubble doing it. Yeah. So are you, like, writing songs together? You writing songs on your own? Like, what's the process? Like that. So we.
B
They kind of, like, come up more in conversation. And then the tone is, like, set, like, oh, I want to talk about this thing. And then usually he'll have, like, a track idea, because that's his world and not my world.
A
Yep.
B
And in that world, I'm like, a very good AR person where I'm like, I hate that thing. What's that weird sound? Nope. That should be like this. But I can't, like, build it. Like, he can from. And, like, dream it up from scratch.
A
Right.
B
So it's a really great partnership because then I'm like, oh, this is making me feel this. And then we start writing a song that kind of is in that lane,
A
which also probably, like, kind of makes you guys deeper and closer because you're also talking about things that you feel vulnerable about, things that are in your mind that maybe you wouldn't share with him day to day. And the fact that you can do that successfully, I think that it has
B
made our communication really good.
A
Yeah.
B
And just kind of erase the nerves around, like, bringing something up with your partner, you know, when just, like, the days are Going by and you have this thing on your mind and bringing it up feels like it's going to create a bigger issue than you have time to deal with.
A
Yes, I know that. Yes, yes, of course I know that feeling. Uh huh. This.
B
I don't know if it's just four kids and the pace at which our life is moving at right now or something that we just don't have time to be in a weird spot, you know, or if it was like making the record and having lots of, you know, topics that maybe are sometimes a little like untouchable, just be really out in the open. But God, it was so easy making records. It fell the record with him and it was so like healing to talk about things that, you know, I've gone through and that scared me and that I haven't shared. Like just because it was done in a way that is so me and felt so authentic to like how I process things, like even really heavy things, I tend to somehow like bop along through my day even though it's there and that the record feels very much like this pretty weighted. There's a lot of, you know, heavy, weighted topics in the record that you know, sometimes are like dressed up with like some Lorax thread or something. You know what I mean? That like feel a little sparkly.
A
Don't talk to me about a Lorax thread. Are you kidding me? That's like you talking dirty to me really early in the interview. Yes, that totally makes sense. And like listening from start to finish, like I'm telling you I'm listening to it with my daughter and I feel like it feels so you. Like I am basically in the car with you and you are singing these songs sitting next to me.
B
I love that.
A
Like it really. So you should be really proud and really happy about what you put out. And I'm not kidding. You're so loved. People are freaking out that you're back. Like it's a whole thing. Like I told a few people you're on the show, they're like, do anything you can to get a photo.
B
I want to tell you on that. Like I feel so lucky right now because I just never. I got to the place of like, okay, I can't compare myself to like my old successes. And like whatever this album is, is. And it's going to be for me and I know there's going to be a handful of people that are going to fuck with it, you know, and like, and that's all I had to keep in like the focus, you know, and to see the response and to see people showing up for me because I did something authentic, like, is the biggest, biggest, biggest reward, like, 100%. We used to, Matt and I, when we would, like, sit and think about, you know, what the rollout was gonna look like or whatever, he would always be like, you deserve this victory lap. And it was like such a nice way to frame it. I know, but it feels so much bigger than a victory lap now, you know?
A
No, it feels like a whole damn field.
B
I don't know what.
A
I don't know what to compare it to. It feels energetically corre. Like, correct. I want to talk about the tour starts June 21.
B
Don't say that out loud. I know. I.
A
How.
B
Okay.
A
I had a follow up question, but, like, how do you feel about that? Like, are you excited?
B
I'm. Yeah, I'm thrilled. I think there's a whole bunch of question marks for me.
A
Yep.
B
That as a mom, I'm like, oh, my God. I know. It's like my family is obviously my, like, number one concern, and I've had to, like, compartmentalize a whole bunch of
A
everything. Yeah, it's everything.
B
Yeah.
A
It's so much. I have two kids, you have four kids. I can't even imagine having to go on tour. But you know what? This is what you're meant to be doing. And don't you feel like your kids are always fine no matter what?
B
Yes. And I think we have built a really strong community for our kids to, like, thrive in and be safe with other people.
A
Yeah.
B
And I love that. You know, I. I have been working since I was 9 years old. And like, how, like, that is crazy, but it's like you can't just take something like that away from someone. Like, it's. It's like a.
A
It's your destin.
B
Show horse or something. Like a race.
A
Racehorse.
B
Racehorse.
A
A racehorse. By the way, I was like, what is it? I don't know. But, like, to have that to now be doing this, like it truly is your destiny and nothing that is happening for you right now would be happening if it wasn't supposed to be.
B
Yeah.
A
So I feel like.
B
But I also feel like, so eternally grateful for my kids and my family that, you know, if this didn't work out, I get to like, go home and shut the door and be like, I'm also so fulfilled in this area of my life that, you know, the fact that I get to go and do this is like, it is a dream sequence.
A
Yep.
B
You know, but it's not like, the real stuff, that it doesn't fulfill you.
A
Like, it does one part, but, like, if it didn't work, it would work out. Yeah.
B
I feel like, okay, I'm gonna go back to, like, complaining about driving the kids too much, but, like, love that and thrive doing that, too.
A
What is the schedule with the kids? Do they come with you sometimes? Will they stay home? Like, what's the balance with that? And I hate using the word balance. I shouldn't say that. But what's the vibe?
B
Figuring out the tour logistics.
A
Oh, tell me about it. Talk to me about that.
B
What was the worst week of my life? I bet it was worse than waiting for your baby to come.
A
No.
B
Like, it was so bad.
A
Is waiting worse or pushing one out worse?
B
I weirdly.
A
No, don't tell me it was easy.
B
Oh, no, it wasn't easy.
A
Okay, okay.
B
But I weirdly like birth. So I.
A
Which part of it?
B
I think the part where you get the baby Simba, and you're like, ah,
A
I was blacking out at that point.
B
You were? Yeah. Wasn't that.
A
I felt like it was very challenging. Not challenging, but, like, I mean, it's horrible. It's also hard work. I did it two times, and like, the second time I was like, oh, he's not out yet. Is this done? Yeah. Yeah.
B
And then they're like, no, you've got to get the shoulders out. And you're like, the shoulders are bigger than the head. How did we get here?
A
I feel like we're roasting chicken now.
B
I don't even know.
A
I don't know how we got here. I don't know how to get back. I don't even know what the question was. Oh, poor logistics.
B
Yes.
A
So that was stressful.
B
Horrible, because I'm like, 1. My kids are so excited. They're so mad they're not here tonight. And I'm like, you're gonna see so many shows of the summer. You're going to not want to watch them anymore. You're gonna be like, can we watch a movie on the bus? Like, I'm not going to the venue today. Like, I just want to, you know, make sure that they have the tolerance for it. But they're so excited. And I think there's no time that we would ever go on tour across America. We would always choose other locations to go vacation.
A
Yep.
B
So we are going to be on a bus, which is scary because there's, like, no storage on a bus. And I have that many kids, but I also have a teenager who's like, I am not sitting my summer on the bus, so I'm gonna miss him, and he's gonna, like, fly in and out, and then the Littles are gonna be with me for the most part. But it was. It's a. It's like a whole.
A
It's a traveling circus.
B
Yeah.
A
I think it's gonna be fantastic. I'm sending you good vibes. I'm also. We have some rapid fire, but also, I just. My audience gets mad at me when I bring this up, but you are a Libra. Yeah. Sorry, guys. I'm doing it one more time. Wait.
B
They don't like horoscopes? No.
A
I talk about it a lot, which I should be able to talk about other things, but for some reason, I just, like.
B
I love to do it. I'm here for that.
A
You're a Libra.
B
Yeah.
A
You're married to a Gemini.
B
Yes.
A
Stay with me. Are you ready?
B
Yeah.
A
I'm a Gemini married to a Libra.
B
Oh, my gosh. Okay. How is it for you?
A
It's. We're soulmates. Right. And did you guys get back together? That was one thing I read. Did you date twice? Wait, what do you. Okay.
B
Broke up. Got back together. Broke. Broke up. Got back together, and then got married. Got back together. We're like, we should have a baby, which is psycho.
A
No, I love it. I love it.
B
Absolutely psycho. Like, three weeks later, I think I was pregnant with Banks.
A
Can I tell you? My husband and I were dating when I was 21 years old for a year. We broke up for 10 years. Almost got back together.
B
What?
A
Got back together. And literally, we're not engaged. And I was like, we should have a baby. And we had a baby, and then we had a baby right after.
B
And you're married.
A
Yeah. Okay, so when did you get married? When was that? Five years ago, after the baby. Oh, yeah.
B
Yeah. Pregnant. You were pregnant.
A
Scandalous.
B
And you got married.
A
I got married. Pregnant.
B
Okay. Okay. We had the baby, got married. Which was actually so fun. She walked me down the aisle. She was like, I know. It was really, really fun and cute and, like, Luca walked Matt down the aisle, which was. I would recommend it to people.
A
It's the best. Honestly, if you're in a place with a partner that you just don't even care about the logistics and you want to just have their baby, that's the best place to be. Right?
B
Yeah, I agree. But 10 years is crazy.
A
It was real.
B
That's a big break.
A
It was a lot. And when I say, like, we had nothing to do with Each other, Nothing. Did you guys. How long were you guys broken up for?
B
Okay, the first time, I feel like maybe he would be like, no, that's not correct. But he remembers things a little bit
A
better than I do, by the way. That's. Yeah.
B
I feel like maybe we were broken up for like a year, and then the second time we were broken up for like six months.
A
So not that long.
B
Not that long. Talking through it. No. But, like, weirdly, he would, like, words with Friends. Me or something. I know.
A
Wait, that's so intellectual. Wait, Words with. With Friends.
B
That's so smart. He's a writer, right? He'd always kick my ass too, which was so annoying.
A
Well, he's a Gemini.
B
Well, now when we play. Not Wordle. What's it called? Boggle.
A
Okay. I'm the worst at games. What is Boggle?
B
Okay, Bogle, explain to the one where you, like, shake up the dice that have, like, the letters on it, and then you try to make as many words as you can. It's really nerdy.
A
Isn't that another game, too? When we were growing up, Trouble. Trouble.
B
Okay, Trouble's when we pop it. And that's more of like a board game where you, like, go like this. But, like, Boggle is very similar because it's like in the little dome. Okay. I like the dome, but I get to have like a whole second, like 32nd head start on him. Cause he's so good with words, and we were getting in so many fights that now it just like goes without saying. I get to start 30 seconds before him.
A
Oh, my God. Okay.
B
And then he usually still beats me.
A
He still. I would not win Boggle, Wordle, Trouble, any of it.
B
Okay, wait, you don't play. You don't do any of the things I'm so. You're not Mojing. I'm not.
A
Do you know how to play?
B
Yeah.
A
Okay, well, if you weren't going on tour, I would make you teach me. Is it hard? And does it involve a lot of math?
B
It's horrible. And I got a coach. I know.
A
You said 20 minutes. Where are we? Because we have to talk about mah jong. You got a coach?
B
Yeah, her name's Beth. She's the best. Who the fuck is Beth?
A
Who's Beth?
B
She's my mah jongg teacher.
A
So you're literally paying Beth. So is it that difficult that you need a coach?
B
Yeah, there's a lot of rules.
A
Okay, That's.
B
You can come to. We'll do a mahjong night. No, Gabi, she's really good.
A
Don't talk. I will be there. Okay, can we do some rapid fire?
B
Yes.
A
Okay. Wine or tequila? Wine. Okay. Red or white wine?
B
I never care too much.
A
Orange wine.
B
Okay. I say it in the song. You do. Okay. But that's because it's about my friend who has an orange wine company. So every time she comes over, she brings a bottle of orange and I like it. She's a little too funky. Like, orange wines are like for the cool girl. And I'm like, give me that crispy Sauvignon blanc Sancerre. I want to be like a six year old woman on a yacht. Like listening to yacht rock with my cold glass of white basic bitch wine.
A
Cancel the tour. We're going on the yacht. I'm not. I'm not doing it with you. Okay, what is one thing you regret spending money on?
B
Oh, Lobous.
A
Why did you do that? You should have known me before. I would have never let you spend money on that.
B
First on the loo boo boo train.
A
I hate those things. So what are you doing with them now? Do you sell them, throw them out into the crowd?
B
No. Cause then I'm associated.
A
Oh, yeah, no, you're okay. Also, we have to talk about the Olsens after these. Okay, I forgot about that. Okay, what is the last thing you liked on social media? I feel like you don't remember that, do you?
B
Oh, I totally remember that.
A
What is it?
B
Yeah, it's like it's Colby Smulder's house in British Columbia. She just. I don't know, I felt like interior design. I know, I know. It happened today on my way here. And that was the last time I opened Instagram. It's like, it's all interior design, home architecture stuff. Okay.
A
Is that a passion of yours?
B
Yeah, I mean, it's more of like an obsession kind of dreaming into the future kind of thing.
A
Did you design your own house yourself?
B
I did. I've like remodeled my house three times.
A
That's very stressful. I'm about to start that. It's not easy.
B
No, it sucks.
A
It sucks. Did you have to do just double
B
the budget and double the time?
A
Did you hear that?
B
Okay, you're gonna go over budget.
A
Triple the budget. Hilary Duff said triple the budget. If you piss her off, I'm fucking done. Okay. Okay. What is your favorite holiday destination?
B
This is so corny. But anywhere. Anywhere that my kids are like, anywhere we go with family. Like, I love Hawaii so much, but we also went to Disney World and it was not as fancy, but it Was so fun. We went for Christmas.
A
You know, the craziest part of that answer is that I believe you.
B
Yeah. No, I would.
A
If I said that, you'd be like, no, that's not true. For me, it's the yacht, which we're going on.
B
Okay. I've never. I've never. Yacht. I've never. I've never been on a yacht before.
A
Hilary Duff, what's happening? I know you need to be on a yacht. You have. Literally, you are the yacht girl. Okay, We.
B
I said when I'm 60. I like, no, we can do it now. I'm out here grinding right now.
A
Girl, you're about to be on this stage.
B
Oh, I know.
A
By the way, that freaks me out a little that you're about to be up here and there's gonna be people everywhere staring. I would really. That's.
B
I'm more freaked out that it's such a baby stage. I'm gonna be taking, like, little mouse steps up there.
A
Oh, I thought it was big, and I like the color, and I like the drum set. I think it looks really good. Thanks. The hd.
B
Yeah, it's cute. The disco ball's my favorite part.
A
Oh, it's. Did you put that there or was that there?
B
Oh, yeah, no, we bring her everywhere.
A
Oh, there's Budget. Okay. I like it. I like it. Okay, what is the most used app on your phone?
B
Instagram.
A
Over TikTok.
B
Yes.
A
Okay.
B
How old are you?
A
Old enough.
B
Oh, okay.
A
But the fact that she asked. We're the same age.
B
Oh, we're the same age.
A
We're the same age.
B
So you transferred over to TikTok.
A
I'm kind of into the TikTok. I like it to scroll more.
B
Okay, but do you post more on Insta?
A
Yes.
B
So I just. My brain can't handle it. Figure out TikTok. And I like being behind. I will literally text Matt, and I'll be like, there's a huge storm. Like, the worst we've had in 10 years. And he's like, that's from three years ago. No, like, it's nice to be here.
A
So you're. Okay. But wait, so no TikTok at all? No, I do.
B
I do.
A
But, like, not the trends.
B
I'll do it for, like, a recipe or, like.
A
Oh, wow. Do you cook?
B
Yeah.
A
Are you gonna cook on tour?
B
No, I don't have a kit. I walked onto the bus, and I was like, where's the kitchen? There's no kitchen in here. Oh, my God. Can I get, like, a little hot plate? I don't know. I got into hair and makeup today, and I was showing off my manicure, and then there was, like, sourdough starter, like, crusted in the side of my nail, and I was like, oh, I was making sourdough too.
A
Oh, so you flicked it off? You didn't eat it? No, I wouldn't have either. That's disgusting. I would have. I just want everyone to know that. Okay, So I just want to say thank you. This was. I'm so excited for you. I really do hope you take the time to center yourself before you go on stage and realize how many people love you. Because I'm not just saying that people are fucking obsessed with you. They love the music. They are so excited. Excited to go on the tour with you. And I'm excited that we're going on a yacht together soon and playing mahjong and playing.
B
Drinking crispy white wine.
A
Crispy white wine? Or are you a tequila?
B
You're a tequila person.
A
I'll take it all back with you. Yeah. Do you know tequila?
B
No. I will. I will.
A
Tequila wine. I mean, yeah. Do you have a drink before you go on stage?
B
Yeah, sometimes I have, like, a. Like, a glass of wine.
A
I almost had one before this day.
B
You did?
A
Yeah. I was like, am I gonna be nervous? But then I was like, no, we're,
B
like, gonna be fine. I also have, like, a glass of
A
wine or something every day mostly. Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
Good.
B
Well, I just, like, I get home and I'm like, am I gonna be a bitch or am I gonna, like, take the edge off, like, after fighting the world all day? Like, I've got bath time. I've gotta cook dinner. I've gotta put you all to bed. Like, I want, like, a cute little glass of red to go along with this.
A
Bath time. Bath time is trauma, okay?
B
Bath time's insane.
A
I'm like, sit.
B
Also, my bathroom smells like lush and I'm so tired of it.
A
Lush. Do we need to switch that out? No. Ugh. This was the most fun I've had.
B
I love it.
A
I appreciate it so much. Thank you so much. Seriously, this was amazing.
B
It's like, oh, oh, we got the clap at the end.
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Episode Title: Everything Has Aligned w/ Hilary Duff
Air Date: May 27, 2026
Host: Morgan Stewart
Guest: Hilary Duff
Morgan Stewart returns with her signature candidness and humor, this time joined by longtime icon and multi-hyphenate Hilary Duff. The episode is a dynamic blend of Morgan's personal life catch-up, relatable honesty about adulthood (from birthday angst to closet decluttering), and a heartfelt, revealing interview with Hilary about music, marriage, motherhood, and self-realization. Across the episode, both women share unfiltered perspectives on growth, relationships, and finding balance amidst creative and personal chaos.
[02:00 – 28:30]
Sebastian Maniscalco Crossover Coincidence
Morgan recounts her accidental run-in with comedian Sebastian Maniscalco, after he canceled his Morgan Stewart Show appearance but wound up next door. She humorously details being bumped from her usual studio and awkwardly (but adorably) crashing his live recording.
"He bumped me out of my own fucking studio. Which I guess that’s what happens when you’re a huge star… but I got bumped… and just went and plopped myself onto his show." – Morgan ([01:00])
Birthday Planning and Party Philosophy
Morgan dives into details about her upcoming “sophisticated sit-down dinner” for her birthday, emphasizing the importance of self-celebration and getting older (“mid-range age in the 30s”).
"I don’t want to talk to you about your fucking kids over a bad ACDC song. I don’t. I don’t care. I don’t give a fat shit." ([05:30])
Fashion Reset & Closet Cleanse
Claims she’s “shopping her closet now” after trying on 65 pairs of jeans and embracing creative outfit combos from her existing wardrobe.
Mindfulness & Self-Talk Experiments
Commits to staying off her phone before bed and in the mornings, and focusing on positive self-talk:
Kris Jenner Text Bombshell
Morgan reveals she received a text from Kris Jenner praising Morgan’s commentary on Kris's Met Gala look.
“Wow, you made my day! Thank you for your kind and generous critique on my Met Gala look. So sweet. It meant the world to me.” – Kris Jenner, as read by Morgan ([11:12])
"I literally froze on the street...for her to go out of her way to text me such a nice message... I am framing this text." ([12:10])
Juggling Work, Travel, and Family
Describes the impending chaos with her assistant going on wedding leave, solo-momming while traveling internationally, and the intimidating prospect of running a household alone.
“It takes four fucking markets to get everything you need. I don’t understand how we don’t have one market that has everything.” ([18:50])
Boat Life & Unrelatable Content
Morgan admits her annual tradition of chartering a private boat—a full acknowledgment that it’s “completely off the fucking Richter planet.”
Serendipity & Guest Manifestation
Shares the story of how her trainer, unprompted, suggested Hilary Duff as a dream guest—just as Hilary’s Sirius concert was confirmed and aligned perfectly to make the interview happen.
[31:06 – 51:54]
[32:00 – 39:12]
Writing “Future Trippin”
“I'll just make up a story one day and be like, 'but what if this happens?' And he's like, 'you're absolutely out of your mind. Where does this come from?'" – Hilary ([33:41])
Creating With Her Husband
The album was a homegrown, collaborative effort between her and Matt (“no outside opinions”). Hilary credits Matt with being her “number one cheerleader” and their creative partnership with deepening their marriage.
“I literally woke up one day and was like, ‘Hey, I want to make a record.’ And he was like, ‘Okay, let’s do this, but you’re going to guide the ship.’” – Hilary ([34:48])
On the album’s tone:
“There’s a lot of heavy, weighted topics in the record that sometimes are dressed up with some Lorax thread… that feel a little sparkly.” ([37:47])
Authenticity Over Comparing to Past Success
“To see people showing up for me because I did something authentic is the biggest reward.” ([38:23])
“Matt would be like, ‘You deserve this victory lap.’ And it feels so much bigger than a victory lap now.” ([39:03])
[39:14 – 43:03]
Tour Logistics & Mom Guilt
Hilary talks candidly about her anxiety balancing touring with raising four kids, and “compartmentalizing” to make it work. The kids will partly join the summer tour—teenager flying in as desired.
“We’re going to be on a bus, which is scary because there’s no storage and I have that many kids… It’s like a traveling circus.” ([42:45])
On fulfillment outside of music:
“If this didn’t work out, I get to go home and shut the door and be like, I’m also so fulfilled in this area of my life.” ([40:41])
Motherhood, Work, Identity
Both Hilary and Morgan reflect on motherhood as grounding and chaotic, poking fun at “birth trauma” and the messiness of blending identities.
[43:04 – 46:00]
[46:00 – 51:54]
Guilty Purchases:
Most Used App:
Holiday Destinations:
Home Design:
On Not-Yet-Living-Yacht-Life:
Camaraderie & Closing Cheers
On Birthday Party Fatigue:
“I don’t want to talk to you about your fucking kids over a bad ACDC song.” – Morgan ([05:30])
On Positive Self Talk:
“I’m saying I’m wonderful. I deserve X, Y, and Z. Like I’m really trying to bring in positive chat.” – Morgan ([08:23])
Kris Jenner’s Unexpected Text:
“Wow, you made my day! Thank you for your kind and generous critique on my Met Gala look. So sweet. It meant the world to me.” – Kris Jenner (read by Morgan, [11:12])
Hilary on Relationship Anxiety:
"I’ll just make up a story one day and be like, 'but what if this happens?' And he's like, 'you're absolutely out of your mind.'" – Hilary ([33:41])
On Creative Collaboration with Matt:
“He’s my number one cheerleader… it was so homegrown, really nice to not have outside opinions.” – Hilary ([34:24])
On Letting Go of Old Success:
“I can't compare myself to my old successes. Whatever this album is, is… and to see people showing up for me because I did something authentic is the biggest reward.” – Hilary ([38:23])
On Touring as a Mom:
“We're going to be on a bus, which is scary because there’s no storage and I have that many kids, but I also have a teenager who’s like, ‘I am not spending my summer on the bus.’” – Hilary ([42:45])
On Domestic Chaos:
“Bath time is trauma, okay? Bath time's insane.” – Morgan ([51:38])
The tone is unguarded, irreverent, full of self-deprecating humor and mutual admiration. Morgan and Hilary strike a relatable chord as women openly figuring out adulthood, creative ambition, and motherhood—lifting the curtain on what’s often unspoken. The episode offers both laughter and honest reflection on modern womanhood and reinvention.
This episode is a mosaic of real-life recalibration, creative resurgence, and the enduring relatability that both Morgan and Hilary bring to their audiences. Longtime fans and new listeners alike will find honesty, comfort, and big laughs in this spirited, layered conversation.