Game Recognize Game w/ Emily Oberg

Summary

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The Morgan Stewart Show

Episode: Game Recognize Game w/ Emily Oberg

Date: June 3, 2026
Guest: Emily Oberg (Sporty & Rich)

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Episode Overview

In this refreshingly honest and irreverent episode, Morgan Stewart returns to the mic after her hiatus, sitting down with Emily Oberg — creative force behind Sporty & Rich — for a freewheeling, no-BS conversation about entrepreneurship, personal style, women in business, LA culture, and modern wellness trends. The pair dig into the realities of building brands, being women with opinions, the absurdities of beauty and shopping culture, and why “game recognize game.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. How Morgan & Emily Met — “Game Recognize Game” (02:00–05:00)

• First Meeting: The two recount meeting at a Lauren Sherman x Olaplex dinner at Mr. Chow. Their instant connection was sparked when Emily innocently asked if Morgan owned a questionable handbag, which Morgan quickly dismissed — “[in disgust] You know that’s not my bag.” (02:37, Morgan)
• Reflection on Connection: “From that moment, I was like, that’s my bitch… Didn’t we instantly connect?” (02:55, Morgan)
• On Social Media Friendships: Both vent about obligatory follows and the annoyance of a one-way social ‘hate follow’ dynamic.

2. Owning “Bitchy” Energy & Authenticity (04:10–06:30)

• Both women own their “bitchy” but honest streaks. Emily admits, “If I don’t like you, I can’t hide it. I won’t even say hi.” (04:20)
• Morgan confesses she’s more willing to be fake for convenience but admires Emily’s bluntness.
• Quote: “I would rather them just be an ass than be like, hi, how are you? Like, I hate that.” (04:36, Emily)

3. Astrological Banter (05:00–06:00)

• Emily is a Capricorn; conversation pivots to signs, with Morgan marveling at her “one shot” approach to people.
• Amusing aside about how Emily’s “colonic lady” asked her for her rising sign.
• Tone: Playful, self-aware, subtly roasting astrology fascination.

4. The Sporty & Rich Origin Story (08:00–15:00)

• Early Days: Emily details going from working retail in Canada to moving to NYC for Complex, then starting Sporty & Rich as a passion project/Instagram/Tumblr.

  • “I was obsessed with fashion, determined. I was like, I’m gonna do it.” (08:53, Emily)

• Growth & Entrepreneurship:

  • Sporty & Rich grew from a blog, to zine, to apparel brand.
  • Emily discusses running the brand as a creative, then teaming with a Paris-based partner (who she also dated).
  • Despite collaborating and sharing operations, she always retained 100% ownership.

• Quote: “Equity is like gold… guard it with your life.” (23:05, Emily)

• Challenges: Running operations in Paris while living in LA, handling transatlantic travel, and ultimately disentangling business and personal ties after their breakup.

  • “It was the best case scenario… all you want to talk about is work. It’s like having a kid.” (12:52, Emily)

5. Business Decisions & Female Instinct (18:00–24:00)

• On restructuring, Emily reveals she delayed changes for three years because “it worked” and allowed her a leisurely lifestyle, but eventually it became clear it was time for a shift.
• Morgan praises women’s instinct in business:
  • “Women are instinctively more instinctive… Men need to ask lots of people, check stats, get a hedge fund check. I’m like, hey, dork, you can do that over there. I’m making moves over here.” (21:53, Morgan)
• Emily is adamant about protecting equity and only bringing in minority investors she trusts.

6. Creative Control & Daily Operations (25:00–27:00)

• Emily has recently moved all operations to LA, building a new team—mostly non-Americans for their work ethic.
• Discussion of hiring, office culture, and her pivotal role as creative and business leader.

7. The LA Store & Brand Expansion (26:00–31:00)

• Emily describes opening the Sporty & Rich flagship in LA: two levels, café, workout studio, striking grapefruit color palette.
• Reflects on the challenges of build-out but pride in creating a beautiful, non-flimsy retail space.
• Morgan lauds the store as a symbol of “what LA used to be.”

8. The State of LA and Urban Life (27:10–30:00)

• Both women bemoan LA’s rising costs, vacancy, lack of community, and escalating crime.
  • “These landlords are just so greedy… No wonder everyone’s closing.” (30:04, Emily)
• Both have experienced home robberies and discuss the emotional aftermath and perspective on material possessions.

9. Beauty and Wellness: Real Talk (31:20–41:00)

• Foundations & Facials:
  • Emily abhors foundation (“I wash it off every time”), prefers a minimalist routine, and remains unimpressed by most LA facials.
  • Both rave about lymphatic massage and Russian sculpting for face/body.
• On Wellness Extremes:
  • Emily is critical of blanket wellness trends, fasting, and cold plunging—
    “Cold plunging, I think, is horrible for women… I feel the worst I’ve ever felt in my life when I cold plunge.” (39:44, Emily)
• GLP-1 Injections & Body Image:
  • Both worry about GLP-1 (Ozempic) overuse and shifting body ideals.
  • Emily predicts, “The new flex… is gonna be fit, lean, toned, muscle. That’s the thing you cannot buy.”
• Exercise & Diet:
  • Ditching heated Pilates for strength training, hiking, and balanced (warm) meals.
  • Emily’s famed “lukewarm yogurt” habit provides comic relief.

10. Style, Shopping, and Trends (42:10–45:00)

• Emily’s style: strong vintage lean, online shopping, missing the in-person luxury experience (“It feels haunted!”).
• Both vent about oversaturation of Birkins, the loss of the “special” feeling, and the rise of unexpected shopping moods—Morgan: “I’m wearing a Row beach bag.” (45:44)
• Notable:
  • Emily stays loyal to distinctive brands (Chanel, Our Legacy), but is turned off by mass luxury and ‘flat, stained vintage.’

11. Robbery Stories & LA Crime (46:00–50:45)

• Both share vivid, personal accounts of home break-ins and losing high-value items.
  • “If you’re going to take my $50,000 bag, you better take that box, bitch.” (46:18, Morgan)
• Ultimately, both agree: “It’s just things, they can be replaced. It doesn’t define you.” (50:48, Emily & Morgan)
• Conversation on being unjustly labeled materialistic as self-made women.

12. Business Future, Ventures, & Lab Diamonds (51:00–55:00)

• Skincare line didn’t work out, but vibrators (new side project) are coming.
• On Sporty & Rich’s next 5 years: focused on retail expansion (NY, Miami, London), team building, and remaining involved as creative.
• Lab-grown Diamonds: Emily is pro—citing quality, practicality, and her tendency to lose things.
  • “I’d rather spend money on a crazy house or another car or an insane vacation.” (55:13, Emily)

13. Rapid Fire: Watches, Quotes, & Wrap-Up (55:20–56:00)

• Emily’s dream watch: “Rolex Stella dial… gold, with a coral pink face.”
• Both express gratitude for authentic convo.
• Emily: “This was probably my favorite interview ever.” (55:57)

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Notable Quotes

• “Game recognize game… the same undercurrents of swagginess that, if you know, you know.” (03:53, Morgan)
• “If I don’t like you, I can’t fake it. Like if I don’t like you, I won’t f--k with you.” (04:25, Emily)
• “Equity is like gold. Guard it with your life.” (23:05, Emily)
• “You just know these things. I don’t want to be tied to you forever.” (24:03, Emily)
• “We are the richest, most expensive state. It makes no sense.” (30:41, Emily)
• “Cold plunging… I feel the worst I’ve ever felt in my life when I cold plunge.” (39:44, Emily)
• “The new flex is fit, lean, toned, muscle. That’s the thing you cannot buy.” (36:42, Emily)
• Morgan, on loss: “If you’re going to take my $50,000 bag, you better take that box, bitch.” (46:18)
• Emily, on being materialistic: “I work for these things. I buy a lot of my own shit just for the sense of self.” (51:17)

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Important Timestamps

• 02:00 — How Morgan & Emily met; instant connection
• 08:00 — Emily’s journey: Canada to NYC, Sporty & Rich origin
• 13:01 — Running a transatlantic business & breaking up with her ops partner
• 18:36 — Restructuring the company, building a new LA-based team
• 23:05 — The importance of equity for founders
• 27:00 — Launching the LA store; LA’s changing retail landscape
• 31:32 — Beauty routines, skin philosophy, facials
• 35:35 — Body image, wellness drugs, and the LA fitness scene
• 39:44 — The dangers of cold plunging & blanket wellness trends
• 42:32 — Shopping vintage, experiences at LA stores
• 46:00–50:45 — Home robberies, loss, and shifting values
• 51:33–55:15 — New ventures, lab diamonds, future directions
• 55:20–56:00 — Watches, wrap-up, and favorite moments

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Takeaways

• Brutal honesty and mutual respect are central to Morgan and Emily’s dynamic.
• Building a business as a woman comes with unique challenges, instincts, and occasional double standards.
• Sporty & Rich’s success is rooted in clear creative vision and business savvy — and Emily’s unwillingness to part with equity lightly.
• Materialism and wellness are both scrutinized and demystified, with no topic off-limits.
• LA is a city in transition, fraught with opportunity, anxiety, ambition, and beauty — much like the women at this mic.

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Transcript

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Hey, everyone. I'm Morgan Stewart, and welcome to the Morgan Stewart Show. I'm going to be talking about pop culture, fashion, my personal life, and just a warning, I will be giving my opinions on everything, and those opinions are subject to change. Okay, now let's get into it. Okay, you guys, I am so fucking excited because today we get to sit down with Emily Oberg of sporty and rich fame, Creative director, creative visionary, awesome human. We met. Do you know how we met? Do you remember when we met?

[A]

Yeah, at the dinner.

[B]

Okay, so we can I set the scene. I'm gonna take my sweater off because I'm balls hot. Are you hot in here?

[A]

No.

[B]

For sure, because if it gets hot, tell me I'm good. Okay. First and foremost, actually, before we get into the dinner, I started this podcast because I want to be able to have real conversations with people and, like, talk about some real fun shit. I've watched some of the interviews you have done and I. That will not be like this.

[A]

Thank God.

[B]

Okay, we are gonna have a good fucking time. You can say whatever the fuck you want. We will take whatever the fuck you want out. It's gonna be fabulous. Okay, so basically, Emily and I met. What month was that?

[A]

Maybe like five months ago. Okay, Recently. But I knew, obviously knew who you

[B]

were and I knew who you were, but when we first locked eyes, I didn't put it together. Okay, so let me ask you a question. Before I set the scene, were we sitting next to each other or did you get moved next to me? I have this weird vision that we,

[A]

like, no we were sitting next to each other.

[B]

Next to each other?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So we met at a dinner for Lauren Sherman, who is a writer. She writes for Puck Media. It was Lauren Sherman's dinner. With whom? What was it with? Do you remember?

[A]

No.

[B]

What the fuck was it? I have spent all day.

[A]

I know. It was sponsored by, like, Olaplex.

[B]

Okay, so with Olaplex.

[A]

I don't know, some weird glam company.

[B]

Something weird, yeah. It was at Mr. Chow. You and I were sitting next to each other. You looked at me and you said, is this your bag? And I looked at Emily and I said in disgust, I said, you know that's not my bag. You know that's not my bag. And we cackled and laughed. And from that moment, I was like, that's my bitch. Didn't we instantly connect?

[A]

Yeah. I didn't mean to offend you. I was like. I didn't. First of all, I didn't even clock what the bag was. I didn't either, but it wasn't a.

[B]

It was like black. No, it was black and shiny and small. It wasn't even that. It was not the brand. It was just like.

[A]

You were just like, how dare you? And I was like, oh, shit.

[B]

It was hilarious. Because you also knew. But it was just a combo starter. Exactly. And then we started following each other on social media, which I will say, like, sometimes you feel like you have to follow people. And then aren't you frustrated that you have to follow people?

[A]

Totally.

[B]

And what bothers me, I don't mind following somebody, but if I'm gonna follow you and I wanna hear your thoughts on this, and then you don't engage with my shit and you just become an extra follower on my list. Where's my camera? Right here. Right there. I have no time for it.

[A]

Totally. Otherwise, why? It's like a hate follow at that point.

[B]

It's a hate follow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But you and I. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, I love it all.

[B]

I love it all.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And another thing that I wanna talk about with you is that game recognized game here, like, we both kind of have a little bit of the same, like, undercurrents of swagginess that if you know, you know. Do you agree?

[A]

100%. Not even undercurrent. And also, like, we're kind of bitchy.

[B]

We're kind. Right.

[A]

But like, whatever.

[B]

But also, really, I don't think you're bitchy. I think you are.

[A]

I can have an attitude.

[B]

Okay. When do you have an attitude with people?

[A]

I mean, if I don't like you. Like, I can't hide it.

[B]

Oh, I'm fake as fuck. I'll be fake as fuck.

[A]

I can't. And my boyfriend is always like, you're so, so obvious. And I'm like, I can't fake it. Like if I don't like you, I won't don't with you. And I won't like, I won't even say hi.

[B]

That's a really good quality.

[A]

I don't think so. Because then people were like, why is she such a. And I'm like, also if someone doesn't like me, I would rather them just be an than be like, hi, how are you? Like, I hate that.

[B]

Okay, so if somebody doesn't like you, you don't find yourself wanting them to like you. You're like, I. You don't. It doesn't.

[A]

Cause no, I kind of get off on it. I'm like, yeah, that's that Capricorn.

[B]

I didn't even ask you your sign because the audience is like, okay, Morgan, sh the up about the signs. But I'm not kidding. A Capricorn. I was saying to Emily off camera, whatever the this is, I obviously Googled your birthday. January 3rd. So strong Capricorn. My mother is the 11th, my mother in law is the 28th. You get one shot with a Capricorn. Do you know your rising sign?

[A]

No.

[B]

You cannot build a $100 million business and not know your rising sign.

[A]

I looked the other day cuz my like colonic lady asked me, but colonic.

[B]

Oh, let's add that.

[A]

We'll talk about that colonic.

[B]

Let me write it down in my notes. Okay.

[A]

It wasn't Capricorn though. I thought it would be because I'm such hardcore Cap.

[B]

I do get a lot of Earth signs. Do you know your moon or any other planets?

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay, can we.

[A]

I'll tell you after this. It's on my co star.

[B]

Yeah, we need to know what the fuck is going on.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

Okay, so game recognized. Game Watch Game style. Game figuring everything out. Game. I instantly knew. I was like, this is a girl I like. And this is a girl that weirdly not to be creepy, is gonna be in my life. And we will probably end up spending more time together.

[A]

Yes. And we have a mutual friend who I love. Jason.

[B]

Jason, who I.

[A]

Who also is like the bitchiest of the bitches, but in the best way.

[B]

In the best fucking way. And he can be just doing the goddamn Lord's work every fucking day, styling the whole goddamn world. But I don't Think I knew you knew Jason until recently. And then I don't remember. Whatever, but I literally told him you were coming on. He's like, that's my family.

[A]

He's the best.

[B]

He's the fucking best. And he's been so good.

[A]

He'll talk shit.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And he's still like, just kidding.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I just love honest people. It's so rare. I just see all these podcasts and everyone's like,

[B]

I know. Well, you can. I tell you, I want to give you props because some of the interviews I watch, you are so poised. You are so fucking intelligent. You know your shit, and you are polite.

[A]

Well, look, I think, like, I'm lucky to be on anyone's podcast and have a platform, but at the same time, I'm like, what are you asking me? Kind of like a snooze fest.

[B]

Oh, my God. Could you imagine if I asked you? Well, the other thing is, is that I know you don't drink Matcha, and I know you don't drink coffee. You don't drink caffeine.

[A]

No.

[B]

So there's no Coca Cola?

[A]

No.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

But I feel like when I say that, I'm like, it comes off as, like, shaming people or something. No, not at all. I don't care. So I have, like, hyperthyroid. So if I have caffeine, like, I'll probably die. My heart will just like this, and I'll actually feel it. So it's. I can't.

[B]

So I have hypothyroidism.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

So the difference is hypo. Hyper. Hyper means obviously fast pace. You can lose weight easily. You're not inflamed. Hypo. I was like, eeyore. I was like, what's happening?

[A]

That. Yeah, that does happen often.

[B]

Do you take anything for it?

[A]

Yeah, I do. So now my thyroid is balanced, but every day I have to take something.

[B]

Does your mom or parents or anybody have it?

[A]

No. Which is so odd.

[B]

Do you think that's caused by the stress of building your business?

[A]

I think it's caused by, like, internalizing stress and always having to, like, put on a face. Yeah, definitely.

[B]

Okay, let's get into sporty and rich, because I obviously feel like this is. This is connected. So obviously I did a lot of research yesterday, and there were so many different elements of sporty and rich. Had not realized. And the. When I think of sporty and rich, it's just always been in the zeitgeist. Like, you've just been around. And I had an active wear Line, like, I guess 10 years ago now.

[A]

I loved it.

[B]

I thought it was so cool. Thank you. I really did start the seamless sets. Why is my psychic messaging me? Sorry, that's really weird. I have to check.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

Okay. He's just saying thank you. I didn't know if he was, like, going to tell me I was going to die. Okay, back to Emily's deal. Okay, Sporty and rich. What year is it? 2016.

[A]

So it was really 2014. Okay. But it started as an Instagram, so.

[B]

Right. So, okay, let me tell you what I know, because I want you to talk me through the start and where you are now. Cause I read your substack and I loved it. It was so informative. So well written. You started as an Instagram and then it turned and you were working at Complex at the time. Right. Okay, walk us through that time.

[A]

So I'm from Canada.

[B]

Yes. Which I didn't know either.

[A]

So I was living in Canada, working retail, and I was like, I'm gonna live in New York someday. I didn't know how, but I was like, you know, I was obsessed with fashion, determined. I was like, I'm gonna do it. So I was working retail, and then I just randomly. Okay. It wasn't that random. So I kind of like. No.

[B]

Well, when Instagram started, Which was what, 2014?

[A]

No, it was way before the 2012. Yeah.

[B]

Not that it's like two years. Is that two years?

[A]

Wasn't it like 2010? It was like 28.

[B]

It was 2010, guys. Yeah, that's what I said.

[A]

So still okay. Still not.

[B]

Not that. Okay.

[A]

Yeah. So I guess, like, I was posting, like, outfit photos, and that was maybe new. I mean, everything was new on the platform at the time, so whatever. And I was, like, into street wear at the time. So it's mostly that. So complex. Like, emailed me, and they're like, do you want to be, like, the face of our video? This was when all the media platforms were pivoting to video.

[B]

Okay, got it.

[A]

And I was like, that's crazy. But like, yeah, Yeah, I have to do it. This is insane. So I did it. I took the job, I moved. It was great. It was still, like, probably the best job.

[B]

Where did you live when you lived in New York when you moved?

[A]

I lived in, like, Deep Bed Stuy.

[B]

So you moved from Canada, living with your parents?

[A]

So I had moved from Calgary, where I'm from, to Vancouver. So I was living with my boyfriend at the time. And then I moved to New York.

[B]

By yourself? So you were like, peace out, boyfriend.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So then you moved to New York. That's a huge jump.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then you started working Complex. You started the Sporty and Rich Instagram. It was a Tumblr as well.

[A]

It was, Yeah. I mean, I always was like, I was on Blogspot and then I was on Tumblr. Like I was just always about the blogs.

[B]

Blog. Okay. And then how long did you work at Complex before you completely went to go do Sporty and Rich?

[A]

Four years. And then I went to Kith for a year.

[B]

Yes, I read that. Okay. And then after Kith, you started Sporty and Rich?

[A]

Well, no, I started Sporting Rich, like in the background of all of this. So, like what? Like early on in Complex, I started the Instagram and then kind of like I did a magazine for it. Oh, wow. It was just like a hobby and like a passion thing I did. Okay. And then after Kith, I was like, I need to leave New York. I came to LA to visit a friend and I was like, I love la.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I moved and then I just kind of started doing Sporting Rich slowly. And it grew.

[B]

Well, yeah, it grew. But talk to me about, like when you decided to make Sporty and Rich, like when you started to do it full time, because I know you reached out to your operating partner at the time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he was. Had a brand and lived in Paris and then how did that all come together?

[A]

So, yeah, he had a brand that I actually like covered when I was at Complex. I thought it was super cool. And then we met because. Yeah, I was following it. He asked me to like help them with some image stuff. And then we started dating.

[B]

I. I was shocked.

[A]

Yeah, I mean most. There's a lot of companies who like co founders are together.

[B]

Okay, so how so you. Okay, so talk me through that whole time.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, we were together for two years, but he lived in Paris. He lived in Paris. So I would just go back and forth.

[B]

So you were long distance.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so you, you reached out to him, you start this company with him. He does all your operations. You are the creative director, founder. Yeah. But you retained 100% ownership and he just did operations and you paid him a fee out of the monthly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. And you were doing pre orders at this time?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Do you see how researched I am?

[A]

I love it.

[B]

Can you fucking believe it? I love it. Are you guys shooketh by all this knowledge? I have no doubts. But two. Okay, so then you start. How quickly into this did you start dating?

[A]

Oh, after we met, we Started dating, like, a couple months after. So I had the brand, I had, like, the asset. Okay. I had started selling things, but, like, on a really small scale. Okay. And then, yeah, we kind of just like, over time, I was like, can you help me? And he was like, yeah, let's do it together. And I was like, great. And it was great for a while. Like, it's kind of like the best case scenario because you trust the person. You're with him all the time. Like, all you want to talk about is what is work.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

Which is good and bad, but it's just like, your life together becomes about building this thing. It's like having a kid. Like, it really is truly.

[B]

And how often were you traveling back and forth?

[A]

Um, I would probably go there, like, every two months. And he would come as much as he could. But at the time, like, we both couldn't afford business, so we were like, flying E code from LA to Paris. It's brutal.

[B]

Girl. I was literally just gonna say traveling. I have to travel for my business a lot. To New York. And traveling from LA to anywhere.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Is so taxing on your physical.

[A]

Even if you're a business. I'm like, I'm over this shit.

[B]

No, I. Business. I have to be. I have to be next to the pilot. I am literally flying that airplane or I won't make it. No, I'm dying.

[A]

No, it's horrible.

[B]

Okay, so this is. So you date. Did you know? I'm just like. That is really impressive to, like, start a brand, even though you started it on your own. You're with him for two years, go back and forth, and then you break it off, and then still operation stays in Paris. Okay, so talk. So what year are we at? 2016. Now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So 2016. How long? And so 2016 to 2026. You were in business with this person?

[A]

No, sorry. I say we would have met in, like, 2018. So 2018 until. Yeah, 2026. Like, this December, this year is when we officially ended.

[B]

That's a decade.

[A]

December 31st.

[B]

That's less than a decade. That's like a long time.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And what was that experience like, building that business? Like, traveling, doing all of that Crazy.

[A]

It was great. I had the best time. I mean, Paris is the best for fashion. Like, the talent is the best. People cost, like, a fraction of what they do here, but they're much harder workers and better.

[B]

Right. Don't you feel like the product's better?

[A]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[B]

Where's everything made?

[A]

So for a long time Everything was here. Okay. Now all of, like, the fleece, which is the biggest part of the business is Portugal.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then we do, like, activewear in Asia. We do Italy. We do all over Portugal. We kind of do everywhere, depending on what it is.

[B]

Okay. So then you traveled how often over the years back to Paris? Every two months still?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it was. It was quite often for some periods I would go for like an extended amount of time. But it was just so hard to run a business from here.

[B]

I mean, it's basically impossible. But I guess also going back to, like, when you decided to part ways romantically, was there ever a period of time where you were like, I can't fucking continue this business with this guy. I can't stand him.

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

That's, like rare because we ended. It wasn't a bad ending. It was kind of just like a. We aren't the right people for each other.

[B]

What was his sign?

[A]

Taurus. And my boyfriend now is a Taurus.

[B]

I feel like that's good for Capricorn. Like, I guess.

[A]

They're so stubborn.

[B]

I know, but aren't you stubborn?

[A]

No, I think I'm like, pretty flexible and easygoing. But, yeah, I guess I love a Taurus.

[B]

How long have you been with your boyfriend now?

[A]

Two years.

[B]

Is this the boyfriend?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah. I mean, since I ended with him, like, I let go of a lot of the staff there, obviously, and I've hired a few good people here. So I would say, yeah, I have like two or three people who are kind of like in my corner, who I talk to about like the big picture things.

[B]

Well, when I read your substack about how you restructured your company, like, what really stuck out to me is I do feel like I obviously have my own brand and I have operating partners who are wonderful. But it is, it's interesting how what came across to me, what you wrote was like, instinctively you knew you had to make this change for a long time, but just avoided it. And do you feel like you did that out of convenience or were you just like, I'm not ready to face this right now?

[A]

Yeah, everything, I mean, it was like to have basically everything handled by a full team and someone else is a dream.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And it allowed me to, like, really, for the past five years, like, I've chilled, like, my life has been so leisurely. I obviously, I have to work, but like, it wasn't the work that I'm doing now where it's like, I'm in the weeds and I'm actually managing people and, like, operating things.

[B]

So are you having.

[A]

Okay, so it's different.

[B]

That's a lot. So I guess the way I'm thinking about this now, which is, I guess a little inside baseball, you're creatively directing a brand. And so when you have an operating partner, that means that they take care of, like, shipping, distribution, factories. Like, you were not in touch with any of the factories. Like, someone else was handling all of that. And since you've parted ways with this person, this company, you now are doing all of those things.

[A]

I mean, I'm overseeing it from, like, a high level, but I have a

[B]

team that you put together yourself?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

How the fuck did you find these people? Does anyone work here? Yeah, so they do.

[A]

So I have a few girls who I've known from Canada.

[B]

Okay. They're not LA girls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's. But my.

[A]

Like, a lot of people on the team are LA people.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But the girls that I've hired, the people in charge. Yeah. None of them are American. I'm not saying Americans don't work hard.

[B]

No, not at all. I think I also grew up here and I'm just, like, really used to, like, a lifestyle where, like, I feel like all of the boyfriends I had growing up or girls, like, everyone was, like, so promising. Everyone went to such a good school. I was like, the loser. And none of these people have a job.

[A]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

No one is doing a goddamn thing at all.

[A]

Except for you.

[B]

Except for me. Thank you. Or like, they're collecting, like, rent checks, like, from their dad's buildings that they own or whatever. Like, no one has. So I think I come from a very isolated place in this city, but it's nice to know that people are getting up, they're contributing to society, they're paying their bill. Like, they're doing shit.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I guess what I really want to know, like, why in 2026 were you like, we cannot continue to work together? Like, was it the travel or you just were like, this is my time.

[A]

It was a. It was a mix of things.

[B]

How long did you avoid this feeling?

[A]

Maybe, like, three years.

[B]

That's one thing that I want to just point out. Women in business and I've. I've found myself in a position as a woman in business, and I think that women are instinctively more instinctive. We know things to the core of our being so quickly, immediately. And I Do find, and this is a question and a statement that we don't need as much external validation when we know something is right. Men need to ask lots of people.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Check lots of stats.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Get a cool vibe. Check.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Get a hedge fund check. And I'm like, hey, dork, you can do that over there. I'm making moves over here.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

But it's interesting that you are building this feeling fucking business from the ground up. You're now seven or eight years. Don't ask me to do the math into this. Three years, you're like, this is not my person. So finally. But you sat with it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't think men would have sat with it as long. Do you agree? Yeah.

[A]

I mean, I was kind of okay with it because it worked.

[B]

Right? Okay.

[A]

It was working. And I liked my lifestyle.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, let me. I'm gonna eventually, you know, have kids. I know I'm gonna take the business back into my full control, and then life's gonna be hell, so let me just, like, milk it and chill.

[B]

So why. Why were you like, this is the time to move on?

[A]

It was kind of more detrimental for the business than it was good. Just because of the way the deal was structured and me not wanting to give equity. Obviously, like, when you don't wanna give equity, you have to pay more upfront.

[B]

Would you. If someone is in business right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they're in a position where they want to give more equity to incentivize somebody, would you advise against that as a founder? Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I would say guard it with your life. Equity is like gold. Okay. I still, like.

[B]

Like, it's so hot.

[A]

No, but if you have the right partners, look, it could be great.

[B]

Yeah. No, And I will say, like, I've had the wrong partners.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I've had the right partners. Yeah. So I just think. But it is what you're saying is important. Like, and was he or that business always. Were you very clear? Like, I'm never giving you equity ever.

[A]

I just knew.

[B]

Go off, bitch. Go off, bitch. What the fuck do you. That is so badass.

[A]

That was like, a point of contention in our relationship. He was always like, how could you not, like, give me equity? Like, we're basically partners. And I was like, yeah, but no, like, it was my idea first and foremost. I started before I even met him. So for me, it was mine. And he was also the type of person where I was like, I don't want to be tied to you forever.

[B]

I don't. I have chills like, you just know these things.

[A]

You just know.

[B]

Okay, so you have retained full equity ownership of your own company. You've never. Or you have taken on capital?

[A]

We've taken on a little bit, yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And you're very minority.

[B]

And have you given. You've given them a little bit of equity.

[A]

Teensy, that was. Once he left, you had to do it. It all happened kind of at the same time.

[B]

Are you happy with that decision?

[A]

Yeah, because they're great. They're. They haven't asked me one question.

[B]

See, you know what? We need to get the people in the room who aren't asking questions.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I'm like. Because.

[A]

Yeah, don't ask me a damn thing. I know what I'm doing.

[B]

Don't ask me a damn thing.

[A]

And you can trust me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If, like, I'm fucking things up and, like, you know, the company's going under, sure, by all means.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But, like, we're killing it.

[B]

Do you feel. Oh, I fucking love it. So do you feel like, in terms of, like, were you always, like, margins and were you like, you were on top of that kind of stuff?

[A]

Yeah, I think, like, unlike a lot of creatives, I have, like, half of, like, a logical brain and, like, business mindset where it's like, if this doesn't make sense financially and if we're not going to turn a profit, then, like, we're not doing it. I don't have this kind of ego that a lot of these, like, artists have where it's like, I want to make money, like, the most beautiful whatever. It's like, I love what we make, and, like, it's fun and, like, it has to be cool, but it has to make sense. Like, this is a business. And I love. I love, like, running a business. That's the most interesting thing to me.

[B]

Do you have an office?

[A]

Yeah. Now we do. Here.

[B]

Okay, let's talk about. So you.

[A]

Hi.

[B]

How long have you had your new team because you've moved operations to LA. 2026. What, officially? March.

[A]

Um, no, before that, I would say I started hiring everyone in, like, August, September.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

When this was all going down.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It was all happening, like, at the same time.

[B]

And then how long has. So you just opened a store here?

[A]

Mm.

[B]

The store is two months ago.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How long has that been in the works?

[A]

Oh, God. Like, it was nine months, probably.

[B]

The store. So you had. You did this with your new partners, not with your old ones. Let's talk about the store.

[A]

Yeah. So the office is above the store. We have a Cafe. We have a workout studio. It's a huge, like, two levels. It's great.

[B]

It's stunning.

[A]

Thanks.

[B]

It's fucking crazy.

[A]

I'm happy with it.

[B]

Yeah. It's so beautiful. There's very few things that, like, I see on Instagram that I'm like, this doesn't feel flimsy. This has such good taste. The design of it, the interiors. Did you design everything yourself or did you work with an interior designer?

[A]

I worked with an architect.

[B]

So you had. You were a collaborator in it?

[A]

Yes. It was a nightmare, the whole process. I'm sure I wanted to kill myself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it was worth it.

[B]

It was worth it. I mean, what is it? It's like a peach coral mauve hybrid color.

[A]

It's like a grapefruit kind of pinky.

[B]

It's gorgeous. So what? It's like grapefruit furniture. And then I haven't. I need to come see the space.

[A]

Yeah, come see it.

[B]

So are you there every day?

[A]

So I'm in the office, like, three, four days a week, so I always, like, hang downstairs because I just love being in there and just, like, seeing everyone and what they think.

[B]

Oh, my God. And the foot traffic's insane or what.

[A]

Yeah, it's been great. It's been really good. Which is surprising for la.

[B]

No, it is. But I do feel like I want to talk about la, too. Like, la. So you've been here how long? What year?

[A]

I've been here, like, eight years now, which is crazy to me.

[B]

How do you feel about LA right now?

[A]

Yeah, how do you feel about.

[B]

How do you feel about LA the last three years? Like, talk me through your journey with la.

[A]

Well, look, I love the city. I don't think I'll ever leave.

[B]

Yeah, it's amazing.

[A]

Like, my boyfriend is from here. His family is from here.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

They're very la. And, like, he would never leave, so I would never leave. And, like, he also has such a good community.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

That I'm just like. It feels like home. Like, New York never felt like home. And I'm like, oh, LA's home. So in that sense, I love it and I think it really is, like, the best place to live. But there's obviously some issues.

[B]

What the fuck is going on?

[A]

It's kind of crazy.

[B]

Do you feel like. I feel personally, like there's a vacancy to the city. Like, it doesn't feel like. Well, first of all, everything is vacant. Most things are not where they used to be. I don't feel like there's a. Like, a culture Like, I mean, I guess there's the community goods and people are getting coffee and. But I don't feel this sort of sense of, like, alive.

[A]

Community.

[B]

Yeah, community. Or just like, where are you going to dinner? Where are you going to dinner? Yeah.

[A]

I won't say because I'm gatekeeping my places.

[B]

Fuck me, dude. Okay, but let me ask you this. You'll tell me off camera, off mic. Is it in West Hollywood?

[A]

No, it's in the Valley. It's in Studio City.

[B]

What's the cuisine?

[A]

Japanese.

[B]

Yeah, well, I know about all those places, too.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sure you do.

[B]

Okay. But I'm just thinking, like, when I'm driving down Melrose, there used to be, like, five different restaurants that, like, I'm thinking about your store location. There used to be so many places to eat, and now I'm like, am I getting, like. Am I eating an old cookie under my seat to get through the day? Like, where am I getting. I have a wrap in my bag right now. Can you. And I. By the way, I want it. I'm hungry. That's insane. Like, I just don't. But I do think we're coming back.

[A]

I think LA is coming back. I think this, the next mayor situation girl is gonna be a wild one.

[B]

I think that we. I'm, like, a little nervous about it.

[A]

I'm nervous, too. I just want the best for the city.

[B]

I do, too.

[A]

And, I mean, whoever that is.

[B]

Whoever that is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I have. I mean, obviously the last. Things have not been handled that well, but, like, where we could potentially go is also very scary. But, like, the whole city was literally burnt to the fucking ground.

[A]

No, I think there has to be a happy medium between the two worlds. Yes.

[B]

Okay. We're very aligned on that. Okay, good. Yes. No, no, no. Don't be scared. Everyone's like, what am I gonna get? No, I'm very with you, but I. Yeah, I just want things to feel. There is a heaviness around the city that I feel like, needs to go away and needs to, like, break through. And I feel like, honestly, going back to your store, like, I'm like, this is a beautiful space and this is what LA used to be. We don't have so much of that anymore.

[A]

No, but no one can afford, like, I'm lucky you can afford that. The rent is insane. And these landlords are just so greedy. Everyone I know, they're charging crazy arm and a leg. And it's like, no wonder nobody's opening. And no wonder everyone's closing.

[B]

Yeah, it's true. And I even feel like my. My kids work with. Like, when you do this, you'll. It's crazy. But my kids have, like, a psychologist to help them with their school. Like, not, like, basically she's a psychologist. She doesn't, like, help my children, but she'll help you, like, with getting into kindergarten and all this shit. She has to move her offices. That's crazy. Like, every person I know, like, they're like, I can't afford this rent. You can't, like, charge me $5,000 extra every year for no fucking reason.

[A]

And we are the richest, most expensive state. It makes no sense.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Like, trust me, I want to somehow, I don't know, like, how to help make it so that it's more friendly for founders and business owners.

[B]

I mean, and also, these are people who have, like, dedicated their lives to working, and now they're, like, at their career and they're 60 years old. And you have to leave.

[A]

No, like, we're not moving. Like, so I'm not living in, like, Texas or Miami.

[B]

Neither am I. Can we get that on record? Neither am I. No, I'm not going there. Okay, what about. Let's talk about LA lifestyle a little bit more because I am curious about this and I want to go back to your business. What. Where are you getting your. Are we gatekeeping this, like, best beauty treatment?

[A]

So I'm actually going to write a sub sec about it, but which do you. What do you want?

[B]

Like. Okay, well, first of all, I know that you don't wear foundation. Yeah, I do.

[A]

Anytime I've gone. No shame to anyone who does.

[B]

By the way, I globbed it on, bitch. I put it in the sink and I put my face in it and I shoved it on.

[A]

No, anytime. Anytime someone's done my makeup, I cry because I'm like, why am I so ugly? Like, I look insane. I wash it off every time. Even on my wedding day. I will not get my makeup done.

[B]

So you have no makeup on right now?

[A]

No, I have mascara on. I'm.

[B]

A little bit of blush, I'm gonna call it. No, no, the fact that you. So the skin is just, like, even like that. We're not putting any.

[A]

There's so many sunspots from tanning and all that.

[B]

Okay, so this is. Yeah, I literally had someone come over and, like, glue my eyebrows onto my head. So you. Where are we getting our facial? Where's your best facial?

[A]

Okay, so this is the one thing that I still haven't found that I love.

[B]

Oh, Well, I. Okay.

[A]

I've tried a million. This is the other thing. Every time I get a facial, my skin is worse than when.

[B]

No, I agree with that.

[A]

And I'm like, oh, I'm just not gonna get this. Gonna do this. But I do love a lymphatic facial

[B]

and a lymphatic drainage massage. Yes.

[A]

Body better, but just for the face also.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which I'll do, like, every other week. Obsessed. So for that, I go to Kocha, which is in Studio City.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Kocha Spa.

[B]

They're the best for lymphatic face and body.

[A]

Just face.

[B]

Just face, body. Where are you doing body?

[A]

Okay, so everyone knows Rebecca.

[B]

Yes. I used to go to Rebecca when I was pregnant with Gray.

[A]

Okay. So I've been seeing Rebecca since she first opened.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. I love Rebecca's. Amazing.

[A]

Ages ago. She's great.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That's like a traditional Brazilian technique.

[B]

Yes. Do you do machines, or you just do hands?

[A]

She does both.

[B]

I just do the hands, though.

[A]

I like the machines too.

[B]

I don't know. I want to just. I want you to rub the body. Okay. So for that.

[A]

For that. That's more of, like, a Russian sculpting technique.

[B]

Okay. I want to be Russian to sculpted.

[A]

So I have an amazing woman from the Ukraine who actually came when the war started with her son. Single mom. She's amazing. Okay.

[B]

I need her information. I need to support that small business.

[A]

She's not super expensive either. She's right in Beverly Hills, and she will, like, beat the fuck out of your body.

[B]

That's what I want.

[A]

But you'll be snatched.

[B]

No, there's nothing better. And I am somebody. I don't know if you deal with this. My inflammation is so wild.

[A]

I mean, everyone's.

[B]

Is it even, like, hyperthyroid? Because the hypothyroid, like, I'm like, no, hyper too. It's awful.

[A]

I feel like we're all just dying.

[B]

No, I know I'm not. Can I be honest with you? Right now, I'm literally like, am I speaking English? Because I'm like, I haven't eaten. My stomach is eating itself, and I might have to take a bite of my wrap. This show is sponsored by Better Help. For some people, summer is their favorite season. Travel, pickups, kids are out of school, and adventure is in full swing. You guys. For others, though, juggling everything. Summer demands can be tough and can lead to feeling overwhelmed and counting down the minutes until the kids are back in school. Whether you are someone who thrives or just survives in the summer, make sure to take care of yourself during the warm months. Therapy with BetterHelp, the world's largest online therapy platform, can help you understand your needs, feel more confident about setting boundaries, and create a version of summer that actually feels good. Just take a short questionnaire to identify your needs and Preferences and BetterHelp will handle the initial therapist matching work for you. Feel confident knowing betterhelp therapists work according to a strict code of conduct and are fully licensed in the US you don't have to say yes to everything this summer. Find support in therapy. Sign up and get 10% [e-mail] Morgan Stewart that's betterhelp.com MorganStewart hey everyone, it's me, Morgan Stewart and I have a new podcast called the Morgan Stewart Show. Join me each week as I talk about pop culture, fashion, my personal life and just a warning, I'm gonna be giving my opinion on everything. I'll also have some really fun guests to join in on the fun. The Morgan Stewart show is out now. Listen and follow wherever you get your podcasts or watch full video on YouTube. Just transparently they're gonna cut it. But I had to take an eating break cause I was getting dizzy, so. Which I literally was. Did you see me fade or I was okay?

[A]

No, but I love that you eat.

[B]

So tell me, do you think no one's eating? Cause everyone's on a GLP1.

[A]

I think, look, I think we all have a bit of body dysmorphia.

[B]

Oh my God, talk about it.

[A]

I think there's a lot of eating disorders going on.

[B]

Do you think via because people are taking stuff or you think just like a good old fashioned.

[A]

Well I think I shouldn't say good old fashioned people. Look, I think there's people who need this GLP1 and I think it can be like a lifesaver for some.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I think that people want to look a certain way so they take this drug 100%. And whether that's an eating disorder or not, I don't know. But I think it's scary.

[B]

Well, it's also like LA at its like peak. Right? Because like for years everyone is like doing everything they can to look as good as they possibly can. Appointments with like, I mean just so much happening, so much maintenance and now you get to take this shot that essentially is now allowing for everyone to have their dream body type that people.

[A]

However, I did see this thing and I do wholeheartedly agree. I think that the new flex or whatever like status symbol, whatever you wanna call it is Gonna be, like, fit, lean, toned, muscle.

[B]

Talk about it.

[A]

Body.

[B]

Talk about, talk about it.

[A]

Because that's the thing. You cannot buy. Buy the way you have to spend hours in the gy to eat correctly. And that's what people are going to go after, Which I think is much healthier.

[B]

I think it's much healthier. I am somebody. I spoke about this, like, a few podcasts ago. I am terrified of taking a GLP1. I know people that have microdosed it have lost that, like, stubborn six pounds. And I'm definitely somebody. My body has maintained itself pretty well post kids. But, like, I deal with inflammation to, like, a crazy level. I definitely am not, like, losing weight as quickly as I did pre kids. Or, like, maybe my anxiety is just so bad. Do you have anxiety? Sometimes you seem like the. I feel like you're a lava lamp in human form. I feel like when I'm around you, I'm like, it's very.

[A]

No, you'll never see me stressed. But inside I'm, like, probably having a panic attack. Not right now, but, like, are you

[B]

totally calm right now?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You feel good in this space?

[A]

Yeah, I feel good.

[B]

Cause we're not having a dumbass conversation. But do you go to the gym?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. What are you doing? Are you, like, weight training?

[A]

So I was at one point doing heated Pilates, like, five days a week. However, damn, girl, heated is not great for you.

[B]

Honestly, every time I left heated, I felt, like, depleted.

[A]

Hashtag, yes, you are. And it's not great for, like, your skin and hair. I love the workout, but it also kind of tricks you and makes you think you're working harder than you are.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So I switch now two days a week. Then I do gym strength training, like, three, four days a week. And then I try to hike, like, four days a week.

[B]

How many days in the week are there? That's 100 weeks. What do you mean you'll hike and

[A]

you'll do your strength training in the same day?

[B]

Do you work out with a trainer?

[A]

No, I used to see a trainer, but honestly, I feel like I know more than all these people. I just do my own thing.

[B]

Do you work out at home?

[A]

No, I can't really work out at home.

[B]

So you're going to the gym by yourself and you have a routine that is so impressive. If I don't have somebody, like, I cannot get my. I went to the gym this morning, and I'm not kidding. Like, going to the gym, strength training, weightlifting. Like, I used to be just like a pilates Girl. And now I'm like, if I don't lift weights. Yeah, I think it's really important for women also as we get older. And like, I'm thinking about myself in a post menopausal, pre and postmenopausal phase. Right. Like, how am I going to look and feel at 50 versus right now? So I'm trying to set myself up for success.

[A]

Yeah, you need the muscle.

[B]

You need the muscle. Obviously, if you are a morbidly obese person or you have, it's a miracle diabetes, like, absolutely supportive of that. But I think these girls in this, like. And I'm all about like a thin frame. Like, I'm not talking, like, I'm not saying I don't want to have that. But to what degree? What end?

[A]

Totally. It's dangerous.

[B]

It's very dangerous. Okay, good. I'm glad we agree on that.

[A]

So I'm glad you took an eating break.

[B]

I needed to take. I'm not kidding. I am so sensitive to not eating food. Me too. You said that you were talking about it. So tell me about your. I mean, not your morning routine, but like, if you don't eat, you need it as fuel. No.

[A]

Yes. I mean, I. This whole fasting thing, like just these hardcore health extreme things. I think they work for some people, but I think the problem with the wellness industry in general is like, everything is a blanket statement and everything is like meant to work for everyone.

[B]

It's not, it's not.

[A]

Cold plunging, I think is horrible for women. I feel.

[B]

Holy fuck. Say it.

[A]

I feel the worst I've ever felt in my life when I cold plunge.

[B]

Why are we jolting and jiggering our bodies into this extreme place?

[A]

I mean, men sure go for it. Like, knock yourself down.

[B]

They don't have a hormone.

[A]

They don't have at all.

[B]

At all.

[A]

Nothing.

[B]

Not a good day, not a bad day. They're just fucking trucking along. My husband's Waking up at 6:30, eyes are bluer than God.

[A]

Oh my God. My husband goes to bed at like 3 and will get up at like, like 8 and be fine. I'll go to bed at 10 and I'll like need to sleep till 9am no, if.

[B]

I'm not kidding. If I go to bed at 11:30 and I've had one drink, forget the

[A]

next day, like, it's game over.

[B]

What's your dream? Breakfast. Like what's fueling you in the morning?

[A]

So I'm all about warm food. There's this whole like tcm, Chinese medicine.

[B]

Are you joking?

[A]

Which I kind of love because it's healthy.

[B]

I love teas. I'm literally. Do you get accessory?

[A]

Yes. Yes.

[B]

Okay, tell me about your warm foods first.

[A]

So, I mean, just anything warming. So, like, bone broth.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Like warm water. Ginger.

[B]

I love ginger.

[A]

Like, I would do, like, a hot oatmeal. People don't love oatmeal. They say it's like, I just need

[B]

you to walk me through oatmeal. Is it good for you or is it not good for you?

[A]

Honestly, at this point, I'm like, everything's bad for you, but there's no protein.

[B]

Do you need protein?

[A]

So in that, like, I'll also have protein. Like, I'll have a protein shake, but this is weird. I'll, like, wait till it gets to room temperature because I don't like to have cold things. I know people are grossed out. I don't mind it at all, personally.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

But I'll always pair whatever I'm having with protein. So whether it's like, almond butter with some fruit. Okay. And then the oatmeal. I love yogurt. I'll also wait till it gets till room temperature because I.

[B]

Okay, Emily, there's. There's limits.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

No, no, there's. Okay, here's the thing. I'm all about a room temperature water. I will only drink, like, as much room temperature hot liquids. Unless I'm, like, having a Coke. And I'll have nine of those. But a lukewarm water. Excuse me. A lukewarm yogurt is where I have to draw the line.

[A]

But I love the yogurt, and I don't wanna eat cold. So I'm like.

[B]

So is it like a Greek yogurt warm? So are you, like, sitting on it? It's not warm? No, I sleep. But not five minutes? Ten?

[A]

No.

[B]

An hour? I need you to answer. Holy. Holy God.

[A]

Maybe this is why I got food poisoning.

[B]

What else the are we talking about? I have so many notes, but I want to talk about. Where are you sh. Are you shopping? Vintage. What? Like, is this a vintage sweater? It's so cute. Is it LA vintage or.

[A]

No, I got online. Honestly, I do so much online.

[B]

Are you not to going? Do you miss shopping in stores? I feel like I really miss that.

[A]

I miss, like, Barney's and the. I'm like, I know we have, like, Saxonymons, but it feels, like, scary in there.

[B]

And it also feels like Nordstrom.

[A]

They feel like they're shutting down. And also that it's, like, haunted.

[B]

Also, the amount of product and the amount of product with, like, makeup on it in every store.

[A]

50% off.

[B]

Yeah. It's very odd you're not having, like, a luxurious shopping experience lately. And so I do feel like I'm shopping online a lot, but I get, like, like, kind of depressed about that same.

[A]

I hate it. I want to go somewhere. I will say I went to Dover street the other day.

[B]

Do we go to street in la? Yes. How do I not know that? Okay.

[A]

But it's downtown.

[B]

Oh, yeah. That's why I didn't know that. Yeah. Okay. How was it?

[A]

It was good. They have a good selection.

[B]

Okay, Are they. What are they? They're selling all kinds of multi brands.

[A]

Obviously they have Mew Mew, which, like, I don't know where, like, Maxfield has it, but I don't know where else you can find me.

[B]

Okay. Maxfield's a good example. Yeah.

[A]

But then they have, like, Phoebe and they have just like, other random good brands, but it's like a good assortment.

[B]

Yeah. The Phoebe online is really tricky. I'm like, sending everything. I'm like, I don't. What am I doing here?

[A]

I mean, it already fits like, insane.

[B]

Insane.

[A]

So you need to see it in real life.

[B]

What are some of your favorite brands?

[A]

New brands.

[B]

Yeah. Or old or whatever. Could be Chanel. Love Chanel.

[A]

I think new Chanel's great.

[B]

It's fun, right?

[A]

I love this brand called Ora Liquid. They're amazing.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I like our legacy. I think supreme is, like, such a great brand. I don't necessarily, like, buy it. There's some things that I'll buy.

[B]

What are you wearing most of vintage? Like. Like vintage Chanel. Vintage everything.

[A]

Vintage every. Like, I'll buy a lot of vintage tees. Like, obviously vintage denim.

[B]

I mean, there's only vintage Chanel. Vintage denim is the vibe.

[A]

I love that. That podcast where you're like, I hate vintage.

[B]

Well, that was so good, by the way. I was gonna get into that, but this is good. Here's the thing. I don't like flat knock. Like a vintage sweater that's, like, held up and gorgeous. Fine. But I don't want, like a flat stained vintage thing.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

You know what I mean? Like, where girls are like, it's vintage. It's like, no, it's just old and dusty.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

There's a difference. We need to be very specific.

[A]

There's archival. It's vintage.

[B]

Right. Like, this is very fresh. What year is this from this sweater?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

It's.

[A]

I feel like. Like it looks early 2000s.

[B]

But it also looks like it was made yesterday.

[A]

Yeah. And looks. Make it again.

[B]

I know. This is very him.

[A]

I do want to talk about Birkins. Let's talk about Birkins and how everyone has one.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And it's really turning me off.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I think the only way to feel. Okay. Is having an exotic.

[B]

I. I completely agree with you.

[A]

A regular leather Birkin. It may as well be a Coach bag.

[B]

I know. I don't know.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

I don't know how we got into this market, because it was all about exclusivity. And now, like, every. And now the girls that know, know. And like. Like today, for example, this week, you've caught me on a week where I randomly have changed bags three times, and I'm just like. I'm just gonna throw shit in a different bag because I have them. But, like, the bag I came with today, I have not worn in two years.

[A]

Cause you're over it.

[B]

I'm wearing a Row beach bag. Like, I'm literally wearing, like, a disheveled bag, which I'm not saying is, like, trend. Like, it's very trendy and on brand right now. But, like, I'm not trying to. I want a large Birkin with a lot of crocodile on it. And this is gonna segue. I bought one in Paris. It was gonna be my last bag. I spent an ungodly amount of money, my own money, to treat myself. Brown croc shiny 30. It was a 30. Brand new from the store, got home to LA. It was in the box in my office. Two days later, my house got ransacked. They took the bag out of the box.

[A]

Shut up.

[B]

And they left the box.

[A]

No, they left the box.

[B]

If you're gonna take my $50,000 bag, you better take that box, bitch.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You take the whole package. And then I saw these two people on my video cameras walking out of my driveway, and they had six bags on each side, and they threw them over the gate, and they trickled down the driveway. And I was like, you spent all this time robbing my ass, and you're not gonna get the dust bags.

[A]

Literally.

[B]

Okay. I had a black box, Kelly, that I just saw it hit the ground. It was just scratched and shit. I got a rainbow Birkin, which is, like, rare Birkin, which is three different colors. It's kind of ugly, but I got it on vacation as, like, a souvenir. That's relatable. Keep that in. Then people are gonna hate me. They took that. I mean, but you also got Robbed. What was that experience like? Talk about la. When was it, first of all?

[A]

Oh God. So the first time it happened to be two.

[B]

Twice.

[A]

Unbelievable.

[B]

Okay, so how did they get in? What happened? What did they take?

[A]

Okay, so the first time my house was. I gutted my house, my current house, I was gutting it, full renovation. I was living in the pool house in the back. So all of my things were there, everything I owned was in there.

[B]

Very antsy, okay.

[A]

And it was like a sliding glass door. And I was in Italy for two months and I posted while I was away. I mean, obviously I wasn't thinking someone was gonna go rob my house.

[B]

And obviously you need to like feed the people and tell them that you're in Italia. Like what do they want you to fucking do? Fucking crazy.

[A]

So I posted, I was away. My architect calls me, he's like, someone broke into the guest house. And I was like, fuck. And I didn't have cameras or security at the time, obviously, because my house, it was in a full renovation and I didn't think to do it for my guest house. Like who? Anyway, whatever. I like asked my neighbors for camera footage. They send me all this footage of this guy carrying like all these bags. I think it was like two or three Birkins, a vintage Kelly. That was so cool. It was so like a chocolate brown, but it was like. I swear it was from like the 50s. It was so fucking old. But it was amazing. Six Chanel jackets. I hadn't worn any of them because I was saving them for a special. Some of them are vintage, some of them are new. You know how expensive they are now, by the way.

[B]

It's ungodly. It's unethical. Unethical.

[A]

I can't. Can't.

[B]

It's like you cannot be charging $12,000 for a jacket every time. It's crazy.

[A]

So those and then some like really good shoes. They stole these two lamps which I actually got back cuz they found the guy.

[B]

Oh, they found him.

[A]

There was actually like a thing on like, I don't know if it was like CBS or something recently that it was like about this guy. Cuz he's like a. Like a. Yeah, it's. It's a very LA thing. He's like a vintage furniture thief. And that's what he targeted with me first. Cause I had these like really expensive lamps. Okay, thank God I got them back.

[B]

But how did you recover them though? The police found them.

[A]

The police found them. Okay, so they didn't find the rest of the stuff. And I was like, fuck, dude. And then the second time, I don't know who it was.

[B]

Oh, you don't think it was the same person?

[A]

No, I don't think it was the same person.

[B]

So now you have security?

[A]

Well, the second time I had cameras and an alarm. But like, yeah, what, like, what is that gonna do?

[B]

It's honestly one of the most invasive, heart wrenching situations. I was coming back from a camping trip with my kids for their school and we got a call from security that they had broken in. We had security. We only had one guy in the front. And he walked the dog. No. And they smashed my office door. God was on my side because in my office I have a glass case with all of these different, like bags in it. And they ran past that and then they went into my bedroom, but they ransacked my husband's watches.

[A]

No.

[B]

Gone. So many bags. We just didn't. We had never had that issue. We live in such a, you know, safe area. But it's just. That's what I mean. Like, the city is in such a bad spot. Like, we need to get back to a place like.

[A]

I mean, it took the police three hours to come.

[B]

It's awful. It's an awful thing.

[A]

It's awful. Like, for a little bit I was upset, but then I'm like, you know what? It's just things, they can be replaced. I mean, not really. Cause some of those jackets were vintage, but like.

[B]

But still, it's ultimately like, that's what I was thinking. Like, no one is home. No one got hurt. And you really. It does kind of rejigger your thinking of, like, okay, I have all this stuff all the time. It is just stuff, right?

[A]

Yeah. It doesn't matter.

[B]

It does not matter. It doesn't define you.

[A]

People get like think, like, I don't know if they call you like, materialistic

[B]

or like, I am very materialistic and I wear that proudly. And I don't think that that's a bad thing. I enjoy nice things.

[A]

Same.

[B]

I also work for these things. I think people have this ide. Especially women who are successful and who are running their businesses. Like, they're just like. There seems to be like an ease. Like, well, oh yeah, she has this. It's like, well, actually, and I think people assume for me specifically, like, oh, her husband bought her that bitch. I buy a lot of my own shit just for the sense of self.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Constantly.

[A]

Same.

[B]

Okay. I do want to just circle back though. Sporty and rich. Like, what are the next. Obviously you're in an amazing spot. The store is amazing. The wellness. Wait, I want to talk about Central Sports. Okay, well, first of all, there's a skincare line and there's Central Sport.

[A]

No, skincare we tried wasn't making sense.

[B]

Cody. I didn't get it. I know.

[A]

Leave it in my bag.

[B]

No. Cody, I love you so much.

[A]

I tried it with Sporting Rich, and I was like, fuck this. I also, like, I don't really care about skincare. Like, I just don't give a shit.

[B]

Okay. So then we pivoted into vibrators.

[A]

Well, that was a different brand.

[B]

Yes. No, totally.

[A]

So I was. That was just like, I kind of want to do something different. This is a fun category that, like, I'm exploring, and I just feel like the images could be super cool and I could build, like, a cool DNA.

[B]

So you're currently still doing that?

[A]

I'm doing it. I don't have time. So, like, it's just, like, on the side, but, yeah, it's just there.

[B]

So it's not in the store. You're not selling those. Okay. Would you ever expand on that, you think?

[A]

Yeah, if I have the time. But right now I'm just like, Sporting Rich is so full on.

[B]

What are the next five years of Sporting Rich? Like, what do you want to see happen?

[A]

I probably would want to get an investor involved for, like, a minority or majority. I'm open. I would still want to be involved because I think I have to.

[B]

Yeah, of course. Oh, Would you consider not being involved?

[A]

Not maybe like, after 10 years, but, like, five to 10 years? I think I need to stay and I want to do it. But definitely, like, a huge retail expansion.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then obviously, like, building the team.

[B]

Where's your next location? Dream location for a store. Do you only have LA and New York, LA.

[A]

New York? Either Miami or London.

[B]

Not Paris.

[A]

The shopping. Like, people don't spend money in Paris. Tourists do. Parisians don't.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like, it's not that kind of culture.

[B]

Right, right, right.

[A]

They literally killed the queen because she.

[B]

That's a really good point.

[A]

No, but. Okay. One thing I want to talk to you about, which I know you're gonna disagree with me on.

[B]

Tell me.

[A]

Lab grown.

[B]

Oh, God, I'm scared.

[A]

These are lab grown.

[B]

Okay. They're beautiful. Okay.

[A]

I love a lab grown. Let me tell you why.

[B]

Okay, tell me.

[A]

I think the reason.

[B]

Okay. I'm bringing it close.

[A]

You buy a diamond is for the quality.

[B]

Yes. So, yes.

[A]

If a lab grown is equally as good quality, if not better. Okay. As a real.

[B]

Yeah. It doesn't matter.

[A]

I'm okay with it.

[B]

Yeah, but how are we deciding? How are. I don't know much about labs grown diamonds, so I don't want to speak out of turn, but, like, how do we know if it's as good a quality as a real diamond?

[A]

Because they're being, like, graded in the same way.

[B]

Okay. Is this the future?

[A]

I think so. And also, I think because I've been robbed multiple times.

[B]

I know that's also true.

[A]

If, like, say, when I get engaged, like, I have that ring, say it got stolen or even these got stolen, I also lose things.

[B]

So do I. So I'm like, I lose things all the time.

[A]

No, no, no. It's bad.

[B]

No. In a way that is mortifying.

[A]

I have this beautiful yellow eternity diamond ring.

[B]

Is it lost?

[A]

No, no, no. I left it on the counter in the bathroom in Century City Mall. Cause I take my rings off when I wash my hands.

[B]

Are you. I was done with you at warmth. Oh, my God. First of all, you cannot be eating warm yogurt and leaving diamonds on the sink, bitch. That's crazy. That's literally.

[A]

That's gonna be my memo.

[B]

No, that is insane. I literally. I had an emerald ring that I bought from the Row, and I literally left it in my car. It's gone. I have no idea where it is, but.

[A]

See what I mean? This is so with diamonds. I'm like, if it's lab, whatever.

[B]

What about lab engagement? Do you want him to get a lab grown engagement?

[A]

I'm fine with it. Okay? Honestly, I'm okay with it. Because I'd rather spend money on, like, a crazy house or another car or an insane vacation.

[B]

Okay, let's. Let's end here. What's the dream watch? What's the next dream watch? Because I know we have a little bit of watch swag happening.

[A]

I know.

[B]

And I didn't even realize the Cartier came that big, but.

[A]

Okay. I didn't wear one today.

[B]

Oh, I didn't either. So I was, like, being cool. So what. What is the one, or do you have one in mind that you're like, I would love this one.

[A]

I mean, it's. Well, it's kind of a crazy. It's like a, you know, like the Rolex Stella dial. Like, the colors. I want, like, a gold all gold. And then I want, like, a coral pink face. I think it's just so cute. But they're very hard to find.

[B]

Are they?

[A]

Yes, extremely.

[B]

We're gonna put it out there.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, good.

[B]

Thank you so much for coming on. This was so fun. And I hope not painful for you.

[A]

No, this was the. This was probably my favorite interview ever.

[B]

Yeah. Cause I. We're not doing this. The Morgan Stewart show is produced by Sirius XM and me, Morgan Stewart. Our audio engineer is Brendan Burns. Our videographer is Kim Cohen, and our video editor is Shannon Joy Rogers. Our executive producers are Cody Fisher and Adam Sachs. Siriusxm podcasts. What's up, sports fans? I'm Rachel Dimita, here to tell you

[A]

about my show, Courtside Club. If you love hoops and hot takes,

[B]

then you're in the right place.

[A]

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