How I Show Up For You w/ Jason Bolden

Summary

The Morgan Stewart Show: “How I Show Up For You” w/ Jason Bolden

Date: June 17, 2026
Host: Morgan Stewart
Guest: Jason Bolden (Celebrity stylist, TV personality)

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Episode Overview

Morgan Stewart welcomes her close friend and renowned stylist Jason Bolden for a deeply personal, hilarious, and candid conversation. The two pull back the curtain on their friendship, the realities of “showing up” for people, parenthood, and the wild world of fashion and celebrity styling. Throughout, Morgan and Jason blend vulnerability and humor, touching on everything from body image and mental health to the pressures of public success, all while serving up biting pop culture commentary and memorable stories from their lives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Friendship & Group Chat Chronicles

• Morgan and Jason start by sharing the evolution of their group chat, initially named “Not a Ring, Not a Bag,” a reference to sizing up potential parent-friends by their accessories at school functions (02:00–04:14).
  • Jason Bolden: “I start looking around…not to be superficial, but I was like, a shoe, a bag, a ring or something.” (02:48)
  • They joke about struggling to connect with other parents and the importance of finding common ground.
• The importance of honest friendships and the comfort of knowing you’ve found “your people” is a recurring theme. Morgan discusses her openness and tendency to wear her heart on her sleeve, despite sometimes being hurt by inconsistent friends (20:08–21:05).

2. Parenthood Real Talk

• Jason and Morgan commiserate on the unpredictability of children’s friendships, the challenges of dealing with other parents, and whether to expand their families (03:28, 22:09–22:23).
  • Jason: “I can't trust my kid right now with the kids he picks. Like, what? Hard pass.” (03:28)
  • They get real about logistics: “I travel four people first class. Girl. Who is doing all of that?” (22:26)

3. Body Image, Health, & Self-Compassion

• Morgan opens up about struggling with a panic disorder, postpartum thyroiditis, and body changes after having kids (06:13).
  • Morgan: “The only friend who said to me, ‘remember when you were bloated?’ was Jason, girl. And I needed it.” (06:32)
  • They discuss the shame and humor around reclaiming health and showing up for yourself.

4. Their Professional Origins & TV History

• The two reminisce about meeting during their time working at E! on red carpet recaps and the instant connection that led to them being separated by producers for talking too much to each other on-air (08:05–10:26).
  • Jason: “We started doing it so often that they decided to separate us…In my ear, they would be like, ‘can you stop talking to Morgan?’” (10:02)
• Both vent about unqualified opinions in fashion commentary:
  • Jason: “You cannot tell me something’s good or bad if you don’t own any of it.” (10:33)
  • Morgan: “That was also before the time of, like, ‘it’s giving’…now it’s all anybody fucking says.” (10:46)

5. Showing Up in Hard Times

• Jason recalls Morgan checking in on him and his family during tumultuous times, distinguishing their friendship from others built on convenience or professional overlap (13:28–14:27).
  • Jason: “It just felt consistent. It felt authentic. It didn’t feel like we just connected because we both, you know, share a salesperson at a store.” (14:25)
• Advice about friendship authenticity, handling letdowns, and the value of honesty in relationships.

6. Jason’s Backstory: From St. Louis to Celebrity Stylist

• Jason traces his path from being a skateboarder and prom king in Missouri to the fashion epicenter:
  • Moved from St. Louis to Northwestern University as a pre-med major, realizing he loved “shoes over vagina.” (28:14)
  • Opened a vintage store in Soho, NYC, which attracted designers and celebs.
    • Jason: “We kind of coined the vintage store pop up.” (31:57)
  • Transition to styling happened accidentally when Gabrielle Union wore his finds and Vogue published it (42:20–42:42).
    • Jason: “My whole entire business started on my black card.” (42:43)

7. Philosophy on Styling and Representation

• Jason recounts building a roster of influential clients—Monica, Brandi, Nia Long, Taraji P. Henson, Nicole Kidman, Michael B. Jordan, among many others—advocating for diversity and tailoring styles to individual personalities.
• He discusses what makes a great stylist:
  • Jason: “Just because you dress yourself well doesn’t mean you can dress other people well…The beauty of a good stylist is to have range.” (47:11)
• On the precision and meaning behind choices:
  • Jason: “If I tell you to wear this black dress…there’s a reason for all of this...focus on staying healthy and doing your job, while I do my job.” (54:48–55:37)
• Iconic fashion anecdotes, including dressing Nicole Kidman (his “Mother Couture”) and referencing Princess Diana as inspiration for work.
  • Morgan: “She started the red carpet. That chartreuse Dior. What are we talking about?” (50:28)

8. Moments of Gratitude and Groundedness

• Both reflect on how the most successful clients are also the kindest and most grounded, echoing advice against entitlement or lack of manners (“Where are the manners?” (52:36)).
• Jason’s pride in working with up-and-coming talent like Tyreek Withers and in maintaining real, appreciative industry relationships.

9. Goals & Aspirations

• Jason reveals his three big goals for the next five years (57:52–59:37):
  1. Expanding his and his husband’s cocktail bar “Damn, I Miss Paris” into a lifestyle brand.
  2. Designing costumes for a major fashion historical film.
  3. “Continue to try to create an amazing, amazing human”—centered on parenthood and personal growth.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On honesty in friendship:

  “People don’t know how to be friends anymore…They can’t show up to you in honesty because they’re not doing it for themselves.”
  — Jason Bolden (16:54)

• On sartorial credibility:

  “You can’t tell me something’s good or bad if you’ve never sat at the show…or if you don’t own any of it.”
  — Jason Bolden (10:33)

• On showing up during hard times:

  “You checked in. It just felt consistent. It felt authentic. It didn’t feel like we just connected because we both, you know, share a salesperson at a store.”
  — Jason Bolden (14:25)

• On being open-hearted:

  “I’m literally internally seven years old. I want to be friends with you. I’m open. I’m wide open...But then my feelings get hurt.”
  — Morgan Stewart (19:59)

• On the role of the stylist:

  “Every single person that I work with and every single person that I touch has a campaign. Those are facts.”
  — Jason Bolden (56:00)

• Morgan on Nicole Kidman:

  “She started the red carpet. That chartreuse Dior. What are we talking about?” (50:28)

• On styling philosophy:

  “There is always a story and there’s always a theory to why I’m doing this.”
  — Jason Bolden (54:48)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:00–01:28: Intro banter and group chat stories
• 03:28–04:14: Parenting & friendship challenges
• 06:13–07:59: Body image, health revelations
• 08:05–11:21: E! days and red carpet chemistry
• 13:28–14:27: When friendship got real
• 16:54–17:12: Honesty in relationships
• 21:37: Jason coins the episode title: “How I Show Up for You”
• 24:49–29:11: Jason’s St. Louis roots and college journey
• 31:16–33:19: Vintage store & fashion entrepreneurship in NYC
• 42:20–47:02: Becoming a stylist, major clients, and philosophy
• 50:28: Nicole Kidman and iconic red carpet moments
• 53:03–54:13: Dressing 12 people for the Met Gala
• 54:48–55:37: Collaborating with clients and the science of style
• 57:52–59:37: Jason’s three key aspirations for the next five years

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Closing Vibe

Morgan and Jason end the episode with warmth, camaraderie, and the promise of more conversations to come. Their candor and humor turn insider industry talk into a relatable, feel-good exploration of what it means to show up for others and oneself.

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This summary encapsulates the heart, style, and wit of “How I Show Up For You.” For fans of honest friendship talk and fashion devotees alike, it’s an essential listen filled with gems on life, growth, and staying real at the highest level.

Transcript

[Announcer]

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[Morgan Stewart]

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[Announcer]

Welcome.

[Jason Bolden]

I feel like this is gonna go off from our like DMs to text thread.

[Morgan Stewart]

Now everybody gets to get to get to hear everything.

[Jason Bolden]

I feel exposed.

[Morgan Stewart]

First of all, should we talk about what our name of our group check is?

[Jason Bolden]

Wait, so I didn't know we were gonna go there, but let's go, let's go. Well, we changed it.

[Morgan Stewart]

We just changed it. Okay, so it was first. I also want to preface, I do obviously have a piece of paper in front of me. There's so many questions that I have for Jason because there's so many things about Jason I don't know. I don't know the history of you and he said before we started, bitch, I don'. Give a shit about that, but I need to know some things. Okay, group chat. Let's start there.

[Jason Bolden]

Okay, do you want to start with the first name or the existing name?

[Morgan Stewart]

The first name.

[Jason Bolden]

Okay, the first name.

[Morgan Stewart]

And how did it, how did it come about?

[Jason Bolden]

Well, our kids were pretty much at the same school.

[Morgan Stewart]

They're at the same school, different campuses,

[Jason Bolden]

different Campuses, which was a setup because I only went there because you were like, you gotta go. I was like, oh, all these other schools. No, I'm just gonna go there, get there, cut to. They're like, about that separation.

[Morgan Stewart]

Separation.

[Jason Bolden]

Segregation. They were giving full segregation. Anyway. Whatever.

[Morgan Stewart]

They were not.

[Jason Bolden]

They were.

[Morgan Stewart]

They were not.

[Jason Bolden]

They were not. But this is me and Morgan's banter.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yes. Okay.

[Jason Bolden]

But anyway, so we get there or whatever, and I go to. I don't remember. Was it orientation, a birthday party a

[Morgan Stewart]

few months into the year?

[Jason Bolden]

Yes. And I'm super, super relatable and just want to be, like, one with the people. I'm about that life.

[Morgan Stewart]

You are. That's who you are.

[Jason Bolden]

I also. I start looking around and I'm like. I just, like, first thing, like, what can I connect on? And not to be superficial, but I was like, a shoe, a bag, a ring or something.

[Morgan Stewart]

Something, something.

[Jason Bolden]

So I text Morgan and Jordan, and my husband and I go, not a bag, Not a shoe, not a ring,

[Morgan Stewart]

not a ring, not a bag, not a bag.

[Jason Bolden]

So that became the first one. And then recently, I don't know what happened, but you changed it.

[Morgan Stewart]

I changed it. So it was not a ring, not a bag. Which basically was the fact that there was not one bitch at that birthday party that you could connect with. And I really appreciate. It's not even to be superficial.

[Jason Bolden]

They were not turning it. They were not turning it.

[Morgan Stewart]

We need common ground. Like, what is something you can find in another person that you can relate to?

[Jason Bolden]

Cause I can't trust my kid right now with the kids he picks. Like, what? Hard pass.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, you.

[Jason Bolden]

Hard pass.

[Morgan Stewart]

Hard pass. Right. That's really. We have to get into, like, when your kids pick their friends, and sometimes they pick friends that don't really love them. It's really scary. And then you have to deal with those parents. And then recently you said something, and I was like, oh, what was it? Hold on, I gotta pull it up. Because it was. So it's something important. But what important. It's important to have. That's the group chat name. But why did that happen?

[Jason Bolden]

I don't know. But it had to be something that happened.

[Morgan Stewart]

Maybe around something you needed, something around Dior. Jason and I just went to the Dior show last week.

[Jason Bolden]

Yes. And then the crazy thing about that is. And what people don't really know is how much I love Jordan and how Jordan is literally, she gets a little annoyed.

[Morgan Stewart]

I didn't know how early this was going to come up.

[Jason Bolden]

But I love Jordyn the way That I love a custom croc pochette with the perfect stamp. Like, Jordan is just like. You know, Jordan is like such. Like, when you meet him, he's very, like, alpha, and he's like Jordan. But then at the same time, I'm like, oh, you Kiki. Yeah, Like, Jordan Kikis down. So it's like that on top. So it's like our group chat with my husband and, like, in Jordan and Morgan, and so we get to talk about stuff. And it's actually really funny. Cause sometimes Jordan clocks it quicker. He will clock it. He will clock it.

[Morgan Stewart]

I think also with Jordan, I'm trying to think. Do you remember the first time you met Jordan?

[Jason Bolden]

Valentino. We're at a dinner.

[Morgan Stewart]

Not Valentino.

[Jason Bolden]

We're at a Valentino dinner.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, so we. Pure Paulo pink, which I was talking about this morning, randomly, completely separately. Somebody, a guy who did my hair this morning was like, I loved that pink Valentino. I have, by the way, I'm in pink Valentino shoes today. Wait.

[Jason Bolden]

The craziest thing is, I just was texting with Pierre Paulo, because the other day, um, the girl who's the head of pr, I sent her this huge pink look that I did for Alicia Keys for Grammys one year, and it was pure Paulo pink. Oh, how crazy is that?

[Morgan Stewart]

When he. And Weirder. To add to the energy of this fashion chat so early on, which I'm remembering when we did TV together, why it was so fucking good. I bought, you know, the Manolo and Balenciaga shoe collab. Okay, so what color do you think I got? There was yellow, black, green, and. Okay, I didn't get green. I got yellow shoes.

[Jason Bolden]

No, no, no. I'm just saying I used the green on. Oh, okay. I used the green on Aisha Curry at the after party for the Met.

[Morgan Stewart]

But you should.

[Jason Bolden]

You should just get all of them.

[Morgan Stewart]

I was going to get both, but can I tell you what I'm going through right now? I'm going through a shopping hiatus, which we talked about. I cannot keep, because what's happening is I'm buying.

[Jason Bolden]

Are these leather?

[Morgan Stewart]

Are they not so chic You. Am I giving lemon lion chartreuse?

[Jason Bolden]

You're giving. Turning it right. The color's working today.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. I also just want to be very honest, direct to camera. I had a panic disorder the last three years. And autoimmune postpartum thyroiditis. I was so bloated, floated, and so big. I was like 10 pounds of water weight. The only friend. The only friend who said to me, well, remember when you were bloated. Was Jason, girl. And I needed it.

[Jason Bolden]

Girl.

[Morgan Stewart]

No.

[Jason Bolden]

Safety first.

[Morgan Stewart]

Safety.

[Jason Bolden]

Safety first. I was not gonna let you go down like that.

[Morgan Stewart]

Can I tell you something? I went to Jason's son Arrow's birthday last May. He is a Gemini, like me. He's the 23rd. Exactly. What's his name?

[Jason Bolden]

24.

[Morgan Stewart]

24. Okay. So I'm 22. I was so brunette and so fat. It was.

[Jason Bolden]

It was dark.

[Morgan Stewart]

Dark.

[Jason Bolden]

It was really dark. And what the best part about it was, is you were taking Ro to the bathroom in our house. The powder room in our house. And you were, like, down on the ground, and, like, I was, like, looking at how bad the wallpaper was in that powder room.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Bolden]

It was diabolical.

[Morgan Stewart]

I didn't think it was that bad.

[Jason Bolden]

Girl.

[Morgan Stewart]

It was not bad.

[Jason Bolden]

It was giving Nancy Reagan right before, like, all. It was just bad. And I was looking down and I was like, that is not my friend.

[Morgan Stewart]

That is not. I know.

[Jason Bolden]

And it was interesting. But let me tell you something.

[Morgan Stewart]

I got it back.

[Jason Bolden]

Commitment. Commitment, dedication. You have.

[Morgan Stewart]

Can I tell you what it is?

[Jason Bolden]

Cause no, you can't be that size that you were last summer in that. In that trouser.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, no. We're back. But you know what? Truly, what happened was I calmed down. The nervous system cannot be crazy. That's. That's what happened. I'm not joking. I literally stopped being crazy. I was so stressed out. I had such a panic that I was over. I was eating every 10 minutes. Cause I was feeling not good. Oh, so we're back.

[Jason Bolden]

You are back, baby.

[Morgan Stewart]

We're back. Okay, let's talk about.

[Jason Bolden]

Sorry, guys.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, we're okay. Yeah. This is gonna go all over the place.

[Jason Bolden]

The health show.

[Morgan Stewart]

I wanna talk about. What year did we meet? Do you have any. I have no concept of time, and I just cannot remember the first time we met. But it was.

[Announcer]

We met.

[Morgan Stewart]

Cause we were working at E. We were.

[Jason Bolden]

It was a red carpet cap. A recap or something.

[Announcer]

It was a.

[Morgan Stewart]

It was a post show. But then, weren't we live.

[Jason Bolden]

I think it was live because I think I had to come to you guys after I had just dressed people. But I don't know if it was.

[Morgan Stewart]

It was you. Me. I remember one time. So it was you. Me. Were we in New York together, too?

[Jason Bolden]

We did New York.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. You, me, Nina, Parker. And then there was one other guy, and I, for the life of me. Was it the wrestler Brendan? Was that his name?

[Jason Bolden]

A wrestler? What did you just say?

[Morgan Stewart]

He was a Former wrestler girl.

[Announcer]

Yes.

[Jason Bolden]

But that was. I think that was New York. That was the New York one. And la.

[Morgan Stewart]

La.

[Jason Bolden]

That one was when we first met.

[Morgan Stewart]

But LA was you. Was that the first time we met? So did we only do that together two times?

[Jason Bolden]

No, we did a couple times, but LA was the first time. And now I'm seeing it because I actually remember what I was wearing, and that was kind of the connect.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, what were you wearing? Black wigs.

[Jason Bolden]

I was wearing. I was wearing Hermes. Remember? I had an Hermes. I was in a.

[Morgan Stewart]

This is New York. You're talking about la.

[Jason Bolden]

And then you came and you were probably in a. Alexandra. Like, Voitier or something like that. Die young.

[Morgan Stewart]

Diabolical. But wait, can we all.

[Jason Bolden]

I was like, girl. All you would just be like, is. This was not me.

[Morgan Stewart]

Wait, this was. No, not even. But by the way, wait, now I'm remembering. Okay. We were in New York together. That was the first time we met. Yes.

[Jason Bolden]

Maybe. Okay.

[Announcer]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

Because John was with me. And you said a joke to me and John that we repeated, I think for two years. It was the funniest fucking line. And I. Something like. Something about your man, like he. But something. It was crying. Laugh out loud.

[Jason Bolden]

That's crazy.

[Morgan Stewart]

Then we did la. LA was after the Emmys, right?

[Jason Bolden]

Because I remember screaming Tracee Ellis Ross's name as she was walking by. I was like, trace.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. And we basically just talked shit about how everyone was so poorly dressed.

[Jason Bolden]

Yeah, it was. It was really bad. And then we just, like. We connected on that particular moment. We talked. I think after that, we even chatted. And then we had to go again. And then we started doing it so often that they decided to separate us. Cause we couldn't sit next to each other. Cause we would literally just talk to each other the whole time. It became a problem. And they would just be like. In my ear. They would be like, can you stop talking to Morgan? Can you stop directing your questions to Morgan?

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Bolden]

And I'm like, well, I don't know what else to say. Because she got on Manolos and like. I'm like, girl, what.

[Morgan Stewart]

What are we supposed to talk about?

[Jason Bolden]

You know, My pet peeve is people who have an opinion who ain't never experienced it. Girl, you cannot tell me something's good or something bad if you've never sat at the show 100%. You cannot tell me something's good or bad if you don't own any of it.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's true.

[Jason Bolden]

Like, keep it to yourself, sis.

[Morgan Stewart]

And that was also before the time of like, it's giving. It's giving. Like, that's all anybody fucking says now. It's giving this. It's giving. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[Jason Bolden]

It's giving. Girl, you need a reference and you don't know the reference.

[Morgan Stewart]

You don't know the reference. And also, why are we not. I really do think about it because I get messages all the time, like, I don't necessarily want to be doing that job, but there's no better people for that job.

[Jason Bolden]

No, I literally sit back and I just listen to people talk about those fashion shows and they're like. And I would have done a different ear.

[Morgan Stewart]

And I'm like, girl, you don't know anything, sis.

[Jason Bolden]

She has a contract. She has to wear that painful earring. That's also Kai yet.

[Morgan Stewart]

Let's also talk. Okay? I want to.

[Jason Bolden]

Sorry. We just. I don't even know. What is this? This is the Morgan Stewart Show. So we get to do whatever.

[Morgan Stewart]

We get to whatever the fuck we want but work.

[Announcer]

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[Morgan Stewart]

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[Announcer]

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[Morgan Stewart]

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[Jason Bolden]

I don't remember either.

[Morgan Stewart]

And sort of real friendship that, like, exists in our lives. When was it?

[Jason Bolden]

I do remember when was it? And this is why. This is why I say that I. I with you so strong and so hard. It was like everything in the world was shifting and everybody was crazy and all these crazy things were happening. And I remember you checked in on me and my family.

[Morgan Stewart]

Did I?

[Jason Bolden]

You did.

[Morgan Stewart]

Listen up, okay? Tell the story, because I don't remember these things.

[Jason Bolden]

Yeah. Because you. I mean, you probably drank this.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jason Bolden]

By the way, that memory is in, girl. A glass of tequila. But you checked in, and I think it was maybe during COVID or something like that. And you checked in and you was like, I just. I want to check in. Just make sure everything's good. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, oh, okay. And, like, you know, and then after that, we just, like, we really. It just felt consistent. It felt authentic. It didn't feel like. It didn't feel like we just connected because we both, you know, share a salesperson at a store.

[Morgan Stewart]

You know what? I also.

[Jason Bolden]

You know what I mean?

[Morgan Stewart]

I really. I do. As much as Jason and I. I think we talk shit, we make fun, we have, like, a laugh about it, because we both really know, like, what's going on. But there is a genuine friendship, a genuine connection about things beyond fashion.

[Brendan Burns]

Oh, my gosh.

[Morgan Stewart]

I mean, I went through something with a friend of mine not that long ago, which we won't go into the details about. And Jason was with me in Paris, and I was breaking down pretty hard, and he. I think that was the first time that. I mean, you and I have. You've given me advice about a million things, but that was, like. You explained it so clearly, and I'm somebody that, like, knows things. You're the same way. Like, you know something to be true. And you know how things you don't, like, lose your way very often, but sometimes you need somebody else to, like, step up and feel that for you and post that lunch. I was, like, weird.

[Brendan Burns]

You were shook.

[Morgan Stewart]

I was shook.

[Jason Bolden]

You were really, really shook. And we were at your favorite restaurant, which is.

[Morgan Stewart]

You're good. He's putting it on me. He fucking loves to go there.

[Jason Bolden]

Girl, I hate that place between you and Jordan. Jordan. Let's go to the text, right? Jordan's like, really? I'm like, oh, if I see another bitch in a brand new Hermes bag, her first bag, like, I am exhausted with these hoes. But anyway, cut to. We were sitting there and I don't know where I was coming from. From a fitting or something, but Chanel. Oh, I was coming from Chanel's ship.

[Morgan Stewart]

Chanel. Before Matt, you had debuted. It was with Nicole, and you had like a corner of a photo of the Chanel Charvet shirt. And I was like, what fun are you hung around?

[Jason Bolden]

That's what Nick was wearing. Nicole was wearing. Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

I was like, what do you mean?

[Jason Bolden]

I was like, you have no idea. This is about turn my brain.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yes.

[Jason Bolden]

It's about to turn you out.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yes.

[Jason Bolden]

But we sat across from that. We sat across from each other, and Jordan was there in Jordan's natural state of just kind of being like, I'm gonna let these two have their session and their moment. And he just like. It was one of those moments where he was just like,

[Morgan Stewart]

take the floor, Jason.

[Jason Bolden]

I need for you to say something because it's like I'm saying these things and it's not hitting and then. But the sad part about it is, like, when you truly love someone and with someone and like, you know, you don't want to see them go through something. You were going through it.

[Morgan Stewart]

I was really going through it. And I was going through it during

[Jason Bolden]

the Chanel, like, girl, we were. We're there to see Chanel. There was nothing that was going to outdo that. But the fact that that was overshining it. You couldn't, like, every five seconds, you would put your drink down, you put the pasta down, you were like. But you would bring it up, and I couldn't let it go. You got to let it go. But we had that conversation, and it's just like the reality is people don't know how to be friends anymore.

[Morgan Stewart]

Or do you think in general?

[Jason Bolden]

I just think in general. I grew up knowing that my parents would always say to me, sometimes when people show up this way, it's because they truly want to be your friend. They just don't know how. Because in a lot of cases, people try to show up and they think they need to razzle dazzle you, for example. But all you're looking for is honesty,

[Morgan Stewart]

a hundred percent, you know?

[Jason Bolden]

And that's a part of what I think people don't understand about you. And I think that's, for me, that's where my closeness comes with you. Because a lot of people don't know. It's like, I think Morgan Had a lot to do with Tupac and Biggie. Cause the stuff that she know is crazy. I'm like, how do you know all this Biggie and Tupac stuff, it is the craziest thing about her.

[Morgan Stewart]

But oh, my God, it's so true.

[Jason Bolden]

She is so deep. Like that going to pass. Like all the whatever stuff. I think it's the honesty that people are afraid to live for themselves. So they can't show up to you in honesty because they're not doing it for themselves. And in that particular moment, I'm like, you're showing up, you're honest. This person decides that it's a takedown. Because I don't want to expose myself. Because then everybody will find out I'm a fucking fraud and I'm a liar.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's honestly, I think relationships for me, as somebody who's been pretty social and outgoing my whole life, relationships for me at this stage are very difficult. People are so weird. I also don't know if you feel this because you are at the top of what you do. Right? Like, you have worked your way to a position where you are dressing the top 50 people in our entire industry.

[Jason Bolden]

I appreciate that.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's the truth.

[Jason Bolden]

It's a fact.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's a fact. Like. But think about, think about and pause on that for a second. You started. Which we're going to get into. I know you don't want to, but we're going to. You are literally dressing people like that. Create our zeitgeist that are the mold of what people look to, across everything, across entertainment, brands, money. I mean, the. The. The business that you are in and the people you're representing, it doesn't get more top than that. And I don't think you only want to do top people, but if you are doing them, they're going to that level.

[Jason Bolden]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, that's what's happening. I enjoy. I love the underdog and flipping the underdog and making it into someone that people can resonate with and become a reference 100%.

[Morgan Stewart]

I mean, Nicole Kidman. But my point is, is like, when you're at that level, people start treating you that. Like you're not a real person that doesn't deserve potentially real respect or real relationships or don't think that you're seeking that. And I think I'm in a similar. Like, people get so taken by all the different stuff, and I'm like, I really just need you to wanna be my friend. And vice versa. You know what? I can't stand I can't stand an inconsistent bitch. That kind of bitch fucking grinds my gears.

[Jason Bolden]

It's a bad colorist.

[Morgan Stewart]

It is a bad.

[Jason Bolden]

You know what I mean? But just, like, remember that.

[Morgan Stewart]

That also happened, bro.

[Jason Bolden]

That was problematic, but you know what I mean? It's like, sis, I came here because you set me up real good. I got the man. I got the ring. Now he's like, let me introduce you to these people. And you got a stunt on this bitch that you didn't like since high school and 100%, and now your color don't match.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, I don't.

[Jason Bolden]

The inconsistency.

[Morgan Stewart]

I can't do it.

[Jason Bolden]

You can't do it.

[Morgan Stewart]

This is. I'm experiencing this so much in my life where I will be open if a girl wants to be my friend. I am, like, literally internally seven years old. I want to be friends with you. I'm open. I'm wide open.

[Jason Bolden]

But you definitely are a girl's girl.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm a girl's girl. I ran into somebody at Dior last week, and we won't say her name because I don't want to say it in case she doesn't want me to. She said to me, you have to stop wearing your heart on your sleeve so much. You can't be so open for people all the time. I've met this girl twice, and she had the most profound advice for me. And what I do is I'm open with everybody immediately. The second they don't reciprocate or they. They get what they need from me, meaning they have access to me, or they get to clock whatever they need to clock, or. Or they get to, like, measure me up in their head. And then all of a sudden, they're nowhere on Instagram. They're no one.

[Jason Bolden]

But what's that with you, then? Why do you feel like you need to, like, give it. Give everyone your all? Why is that?

[Morgan Stewart]

Because I think it goes back to what you were saying about honesty. I don't want to start on a fake note. I want to start on the most authentic take place. And if we're not a match, we're not a match. But then my feelings get hurt because I'm like, well, I was so open to you, so I do think I need to find a balance of being guarded. I have just.

[Jason Bolden]

I mean, like, you're really good at small talk.

[Morgan Stewart]

I agree. Yeah. You're not. You.

[Jason Bolden]

You. I'm not doing all that. I'm not doing any of that. I'm not talking to you, girl. I don't care. Like, I. I really do not care. Like, I just. I. I don't. But the problem with that is, is because I save so much of my care for people that I actually truly care about right now. I'm not saying that I'm like, if I'm going to get. And I open the door, I'm just going to close the door. No, I'm going to hold the door like 100%. But most of my stuff is pretty surface because what. What is consistent about me is how I show up for you.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's the title of the episode. Thank you. No, no, it's. And I think also getting older, too. Like, you have to keep saying that.

[Jason Bolden]

Getting older. That's for you, sis.

[Morgan Stewart]

I know. White don't cry. I know. By the way, that's this white's cracking in half. Everybody. I got fresh Botox yesterday. Thank you. Catch me post brew than. But I do think as time goes on. Let's put it that way. It does. I forgot my point. What the fuck was I saying?

[Jason Bolden]

It does get to a point where you are able to.

[Morgan Stewart]

You need to save your energy for the things that matter.

[Jason Bolden]

And our kids are. Well, you got two. Girl, that's a whole. I don't know.

[Morgan Stewart]

Are you gonna have to.

[Jason Bolden]

And Jordan was trying to do. Yeah, my husband wants to have a second one. He would have like a football team, basketball team, soccer team, whatever. But like, the way that my life is built, we're out of the trenches.

[Morgan Stewart]

Like, I travel way too much.

[Jason Bolden]

And I travel four people. First class. Girl. Who is doing all of that?

[Morgan Stewart]

Can I tell you something?

[Jason Bolden]

The first class and the gas.

[Morgan Stewart]

The gas, girl.

[Jason Bolden]

What are y'. All. Y' all crazy?

[Morgan Stewart]

I literally filled up my car last week. Car gas. Not plain gas kit. I know you were going plane gas, but we're talking car gas. It was 180 fucking dollars, girl. In Westwood.

[Jason Bolden]

It is the ghetto. When I tell you it is the setup. Girl, I don't know what. Have you all seen Morgan's car?

[Morgan Stewart]

No. And a shirt and a shirt is thousand dollars.

[Jason Bolden]

The T shirt 2000 is the tax. The shirt is $5,876. Times the girl is too much. But ultimately at the same. Ultimately the gist of that whole conversation before we got.

[Morgan Stewart]

I hope we've said anything in English because I don't even know. We're just on the ride, girl.

[Jason Bolden]

We're just talking. But I think the. The truth is, is like, you gotta find your people and not to be so. I know you Know, woo woo about it. But you gotta find your people. And it makes life so much easier. Because when we go, like, for example, the Dior show at the Dior show, I'm literally. This is consistent. And you and your man are so consistent. No matter where we're going, it's the day before you going, am I gonna see you there? Where are we sitting? Da, da, da, da. Get in there. It's literally all you see. Me and Jordan are on the phone screaming, put your hand in the air. Like, that's the type of friendship. Like, you know what? Yes, I'm there. I went backstage as Dior before the show started. I'm, like, doing all these other things, but, like, the conspiracy consistent part of me is the reality. The reality is I know if some shit pops off.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yep.

[Jason Bolden]

I can be like, hey, I need this. Like, we may have to run this. We may have to jump this bitch. Like, you know What I mean?

[Morgan Stewart]

100%. Okay. Also, we have to talk about this straight to camera. And I did say this first episode. Jason is a Pisces. I have two Pisces in my life that I love.

[Jason Bolden]

And Morgan is the closest Gemini in my life life. And then I just had a son who's a double Gemini. Scorpio.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's. First of all. Do you know your rising sign?

[Jason Bolden]

I'm Pisces. Scorpio. Scorpio.

[Morgan Stewart]

I love Scorpio.

[Jason Bolden]

I love.

[Morgan Stewart]

Do you know what your Venus is in?

[Jason Bolden]

But this is like, girl, you need a nose ring and a tattoo on your forehead. Because the way you be asking all these damn horoscope questions, girl. What are you talking about, by the way?

[Morgan Stewart]

I can't. It's done. The audience is like, shut the up, girl. Care about the goddamn in a smoothie.

[Jason Bolden]

Like, what are we talking about, bitch?

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, let's talk about Jason Bolden before Jason Bolden.

[Jason Bolden]

Okay.

[Morgan Stewart]

I know it has St. Louis born and raised till what age?

[Jason Bolden]

I left directly after high school because I had to get out of that place.

[Morgan Stewart]

You had to get. But you were skateboarding in St. Louis.

[Jason Bolden]

I was a skateboarder.

[Morgan Stewart]

What do you do?

[Jason Bolden]

I had a tongue piercing. Girl, are you dead? My mom told me my tongue piercing meant she had to take. Cause at that time, you were like, you had to take a parent to sign off. She was like, you know what this means? In front of everyone in this, like, piercing place. And it was called the St. Louis Loop. It was the coolest place, whatever. And she was like, you know what this means? And I'm like, no, girl, I Just want a tongue piercing. Cause it's like a thing, right? It's like I'm watching MTV Cancun, Spring break. These bitches are like, you know what I mean?

[Morgan Stewart]

Uh huh.

[Jason Bolden]

So she was like, that means you eat sex. And I was like, what?

[Morgan Stewart]

Eat sex, girl.

[Jason Bolden]

She is nasty.

[Morgan Stewart]

That is how.

[Jason Bolden]

Damn.

[Brendan Burns]

What?

[Jason Bolden]

In front of all these people. And I'm like, lady, I am like 17. So you could do it at 17, but at 13. So anyway, did that. I was such a skateboarder. I was like, I can't believe you

[Morgan Stewart]

were a skateboarder, babe.

[Jason Bolden]

I was a skateboarder. I was also probably one of the only black people who got to stand front door at Abercrombie and Fitch. So I was living.

[Morgan Stewart]

You were doing it.

[Jason Bolden]

So I was giving the kids everything. I was.

[Morgan Stewart]

Wait, were you out at this point? What age did you out?

[Jason Bolden]

No, but I was like, I was. I am super, super, super, super lucky. I'd never had any of that stuff. Any of that stuff. My family life, my friends. Like, but I was also like the guy. Like, I was like prom kings, like homecoming, most likely to be on the COVID of gq. I gagged the kids. But I also came through a whole different setup. Like, I was like, I was like. I went from like, super kind of like punk, rocky kid. Then I went to like. But I always was. I was skateboarding throughout that point. I had like an eight ball.

[Morgan Stewart]

Wait, how good were you at skateboarding?

[Jason Bolden]

I was pretty good.

[Morgan Stewart]

This is. This is blow. When I read that today, I said,

[Announcer]

what the fuck is that?

[Jason Bolden]

But then my son just recently asked me for his birthday for a skateboard, and he's like, dad, can you still skateboard? I said, baby, let me tell you something about these knees.

[Morgan Stewart]

You can't do it.

[Jason Bolden]

It's too risky.

[Morgan Stewart]

I can. Okay, wait, so I'm in a row

[Jason Bolden]

flat today, Girl, I ain't got time.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, girl. What the references, though? I was like, what are you talking about? Skateboarding?

[Jason Bolden]

Like, yeah, that. And then I just. I went into this whole other phase where, like, Neiman Marcus was my place and I would just go and I would be in like, all the things.

[Morgan Stewart]

But I. Oh, wait, we need to. No, no, no, we can't skip over. There's lots of things. St. Louis, skateboarding, tongue piercing, prom king, all the stuff you apply to college directly from high school. We get into.

[Jason Bolden]

Yep. I go straight there.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, not. Where's there. Where's there? Tell the people where there is.

[Jason Bolden]

Well, I went to Northwestern, okay. And then I said, I'm not into this.

[Morgan Stewart]

No. How long did you go to Northwestern? We've never.

[Jason Bolden]

I was there for a bit, but I always knew that, listen, you grow up in the Midwest and there's only a couple of things that people talk about. You're a doctor, you're an attorney. You're like a this, you're a that. For me, fashion. The closest thing I thought all you could do in fashion was there was two things. You worked at a luxury store or you were a fashion designer.

[Morgan Stewart]

Got it.

[Jason Bolden]

That was the only thing I knew I could tell you. I could reference, you know, a 1992 Yohji Yamamoto collection from front to top. I could see something. I'd be like, oh, you know what that is? That's Ossie Clark from the 70s. Like, I could do it. My photographic memory, my short term memory is so amazing. That's why medicine was pretty easy for somebody like me. Cause it's repetition and then you memorize it.

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, we skipped over that because. So you go to Northwestern and just to be pre med.

[Jason Bolden]

Yeah. My goal was to be a obgyn, but I realized I love shoes over vagina. It was like. It was a thing. And now I think about it, I'm like, I kind of. I would have. I would.

[Morgan Stewart]

Girl, I would have gone to you.

[Jason Bolden]

You would have been right there.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right there. I would have been dressed. I would have made sure shit was put together.

[Jason Bolden]

Listen, listen, listen. The office would be major, but like, that was a thing. But it just. It never felt good. And that is. But even. I just. Even remember when I went to. When I went there the first time, my parent, my mom gave me a credit card and she said, this credit card is strictly for this. Jason, I blew the budget on the credit card on a Dolce and Gabbana denim girl. Dye girl. What? It was a denim DNG duffel. And I thought it was gonna be my backpack girl. The shoulder pain. That I exist, that exists in me. No, it was a mess. But then, you know, so it was like it became that. And then.

[Morgan Stewart]

What was it like telling your family? No, no, this is an interview.

[Jason Bolden]

I didn't. You dropped out and tell them. I did my own thing. I enrolled into the Art Institute and I just. I start doing that. But then I also, I. This sounds really bizarre. So when you. Everybody comes here exactly who they are, and this is a very, very, very true thing. And you can identify.

[Morgan Stewart]

Are you saying from birth or are you saying from college?

[Jason Bolden]

From birth. You can see it with. With your kids. You can see it with you and God bless your brother, you could see the difference. We all come here as who we are. Exactly who we are.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right?

[Jason Bolden]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

Agree.

[Jason Bolden]

And it's five of us. I'm the middle. And I was just like, I was always a little grown or mature for my age. Like it was always that. So I left. And then I would just be in Chicago. This the closest thing to New York. It was super metropolitan in that way and cosmopolitan in the sense of like, you needed that. Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Ye.

[Jason Bolden]

And I just, I just created this life for myself. And I wouldn't go like most kids would, like go home and do things. I would go home on Christmas. Cause I need my gifts, girl. But like, what, what are you talking about, girl? I need that and that cash. So. But everything else, I would spend the summers there. But then I became. This is really funny. But I became kind of like this guy that everybody in Chicago knew I wanted to be friends with. And I would be the guy openly gay, the guy at the club with all of my closest friends who are like straight guys or like, like I. I was running that. I want to tell you, I was running that, bitch.

[Morgan Stewart]

You're right.

[Jason Bolden]

It was a whole thing to the point where like these like middle aged white women would be like, oh my God, I wanna. Oh, like whatever. Like. And I'm like, girl, like I had it in a different way. But eventually once that kind of, that time in my life moved on done. I. I literally, I don't even remember that point after that transition from that into.

[Morgan Stewart]

What about store? When. What's this? What kind of the store?

[Jason Bolden]

I'm saying it gets a little foggy.

[Morgan Stewart]

But you had a vintage store.

[Jason Bolden]

I had a vintage store in soho which was called.

[Morgan Stewart]

What year did you open that? Do you remember?

[Jason Bolden]

No, no, no clue. Definitely drank that or smoked it. Yep, yep. In those days.

[Morgan Stewart]

I smoked something on Sunday. It's taken me five days to remember. I can't do that.

[Jason Bolden]

It's too much for me.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's disgusting.

[Jason Bolden]

I don't know why the problem is. It's also when people like to roll a blunt and then they lick it and do that stuff. That is nasty.

[Morgan Stewart]

Everyone's laughing. This was from a machine. And when I tell you I woke up the next morning and I was like, I can't.

[Jason Bolden]

No, it's not for me.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's not for me. And it's never for me again.

[Jason Bolden]

I like a liquid garment room. So I get to the garment room and it's there and it's really calm.

[Morgan Stewart]

You come in the store by yourself?

[Jason Bolden]

Me and a friend, my business partner at the time.

[Morgan Stewart]

So it is all vintage curated.

[Jason Bolden]

All vintage curated. And we. It was really bizarre because we were like. We kind of coined the vintage store. No, the pop up. Oh, we coined it. And basically all we did was we were in this place, which is now the Louis vuitton store in Soho. We were there, and we were paying $1,500 a month. So we started that, and it became a thing. And, like, we were dressing so many people, and, like, all these different brands would come in and they would buy our clothes for design inspiration. So I would see stuff, and then all of a sudden, I would see shit like. Like, on the Ralph Lauren reference, you know, you would see all these references. No, no, let's.

[Morgan Stewart]

That was on my docket. So Ralph Lauren and who? There was one more designer came in.

[Jason Bolden]

One of the crazy ones is Ralph Lauren, actress. There was, like, Alexandra. It was like, a bunch. A bunch of people. It was chaos. But the magic of New York at that moment. Super, super early in the morning, I would bump into people. I would see, like, Meg Ryan at her. I'm talking about giving you everything that you want. The haircut was still, like.

[Morgan Stewart]

It was, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Bolden]

So you would see all those things. And I was skateboarding still at that point, to work.

[Morgan Stewart]

Were you skateboarding?

[Jason Bolden]

What kind of, like. Cause it was kind of a thing. And I got this Chanel thing that I put my skateboard in because I was giving the kids everything. So I was like. I. At that point, I was like. I was wearing, like, vintage Dior Hedis Le Mane jeans with a vintage T shirt.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, so it was slim. Everything it was giving.

[Jason Bolden]

Tiny.

[Morgan Stewart]

Tiny.

[Jason Bolden]

She was a 29 waist. She was everything. I'll take it. What's on the mannequin?

[Morgan Stewart]

Yes.

[Jason Bolden]

And I was in, like, a Vance or Chuck Taylor. That's why I have mad respect for Jordan. Jordan.

[Morgan Stewart]

Because Jordan walks the guy. But we need to move on from those checkered vans. Can you please tell him we need to find another shoe he won't wear? The Dries ones are too flat for him, I think.

[Jason Bolden]

Is the Dior one too thick? The sole too thick, you think?

[Morgan Stewart]

I actually do. He doesn't have the Dior ones.

[Jason Bolden]

I told him about that. We should try that. But so anyway, cut to. We do all that. All the things are great.

[Morgan Stewart]

How long did you have the store?

[Jason Bolden]

I had it for a while, and then I met my husband.

[Morgan Stewart]

How'd you meet your husband?

[Jason Bolden]

We shared a barber, so my husband was the Head of something in entertainment. I don't remember what it was but he worked for like his whole career was like entertainment.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yep.

[Jason Bolden]

So he worked with all the like the top of the top also just

[Morgan Stewart]

to pause on that. Adair is such a calm, beautiful soul. He is the Jordan in the relationship.

[Jason Bolden]

He's definitely the Jordan.

[Morgan Stewart]

And we are each other. They are. He's just. Oh. When you say somebody is a wonderful person, people don't usually get that said about them and they don't mean it. Yeah, Adair is a wonderful person.

[Jason Bolden]

Yeah. He's very grounded to his detriment sometimes of course. But cuz I'm like, I don't care about those people. What? He's like, what should we say? I'm like, I do not care about the fundraiser for the cookies. Like what? Like don't ask me to do that shit. Send them anyway. But he's like there. He's literally there passing tickets out.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, he's the best.

[Jason Bolden]

Helping the kid out the pool.

[Morgan Stewart]

He makes me feel calm.

[Jason Bolden]

Call my child RIP like what? Girl, I'm joking.

[Morgan Stewart]

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[Jason Bolden]

Anyway, so I meet. I meet Adair Share barber. The barber's like, oh, you need to meet this guy. Speak it. He was a straight guy. His name was Crizzo. He was cutting every major music executive and rapper in the world. In the world. He would come to my house. This is when I lived on 72nd and park on the Upper east side. Always, baby. Don't play no games.

[Morgan Stewart]

Did you.

[Jason Bolden]

Y' all can have all that other stuff. Y' all can have that weird John F. Kennedy. Want to live in Tribeca. Y' all can have that. Cuz it is not going to give jfk, girl, your place is just in Tribeca. Sis. Sorry. It's not giving.

[Morgan Stewart]

So you're giving up Upper East Lady,

[Jason Bolden]

I'm giving 72nd and Park. Upsetting those women. Upsetting them.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay.

[Jason Bolden]

The questions that would be asked when I got in the elevator, wait, but

[Morgan Stewart]

the store was still downtown.

[Jason Bolden]

Store was downtown. So I would sometimes I would pump home. I would like actually walk home. I would give you a thank or I would. I was like, about that life. But you just be on the phone call and I was talking to some of my friends who didn't live in the city, so they would be like earlier time things. So anyway, we meet each other from our barber. He was cutting Adair's hair. Cutting my hair. And he's like, oh, I want to introduce you to this guy. And at this time, he had no idea Adair was gay.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, plot twist, plot twist, girl.

[Jason Bolden]

And then we met. He tried to take me to what is it called? Not PF Chang's.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, no, no, sweetie, we're not in Beverly connection. What is that place called, Mr. Joe?

[Jason Bolden]

Maybe it was Philippe. It was Philippe. I was like. He was like, let's just go to Philippe. Because we were supposed to go to this bar that I always go to, but my bartender wasn't there. He was like, let's just go to Philippe Chow. And I was like, who the fuck I look like? What? Not you about to take me there with Camron. Also, love Camron would have loved to sit next to him. But also, I didn't want you to take me there because you would have saw me fangirl out over Camron or some body. So we went to the Pierre.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, listen. Oh, this is romantic, girl.

[Jason Bolden]

It's me and a motherfucker who's like 9876 who probably did the Declaration of Independence. Still up to me. I was like, great. This is great. Like, I'm not gonna bump into anybody. And then we just start drinking. And we were there with each other for four hours. And we went on a date. That was a Friday. We went on a date on a Sunday. And he tried to kill me. Cause he wanted to take me to, like a homachi place or something.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, you're like, I'm not doing it, girl.

[Announcer]

What?

[Morgan Stewart]

What?

[Jason Bolden]

I was like, okay, this is gross. And then we've been with each other ever since. So we've been married for. Oh, my God, 12, 13, something like that. 12, 13 years. 15 years.

[Morgan Stewart]

Two dates and you knew. One date and you knew.

[Jason Bolden]

Well, I think it was the second date. It was literally the second date. When he took my phone, he was like, you don't have a password on your phone? And I was like, what? What does that mean?

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jason Bolden]

And I was like, no, just my phone. He was like, you need to put a password. And I was like, well, what? He was like, what should the password be?

[Morgan Stewart]

And I was like, tracks.

[Jason Bolden]

I was like, a dare. And I made my password, Adair. And it was just like, we've been rocking since then.

[Morgan Stewart]

And that was it.

[Jason Bolden]

He got a bad bitch.

[Morgan Stewart]

He fucking did.

[Jason Bolden]

Listen, let me tell you something.

[Morgan Stewart]

He fucking did. Okay, so then you move from New

[Jason Bolden]

York to LA when we've been in LA maybe 10, 11 years. We had. We probably were married for like two or three years, which we got married at the Surrey Top, New York. First one of the. First, actually. The first gay wedding on television. Not on la. La. School. Core life.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, wait.

[Jason Bolden]

Gag.

[Morgan Stewart]

Sorry. Hold on, hold on. That. Wait, run that back for me. So you have the store, you meet Adair, you're going to the pier. Two dates, you're fully together.

[Jason Bolden]

After he tries to move me to

[Morgan Stewart]

the Bronx, I was like, no, not doing it. And then he proposes. When or do you propose to each other?

[Announcer]

How did that work?

[Jason Bolden]

We're in the Hamptons. And I was like, we're laying in bed. And he was like, we should just get married. And then we went into Cartier and we bought. We literally actually. Cartier shout out. I work with you guys all the time. I love you so much, but I

[Morgan Stewart]

love you so much, too. Call me also.

[Jason Bolden]

This is a campaign, but we walk into Cartier and then we just buy the love rings. We literally just buy the love rings. And this is like before.

[Brendan Burns]

Girl.

[Jason Bolden]

This is before. Before the 10 karat graph. You know what I mean? It was like. It was giving. Just. I'm just happy to be here on 58th. I lived. This is when we lived right next to the Paris Theater on 58th street in New York. Bergdorf Paris Theater, my house.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, so then when. At what point do you close the store?

[Jason Bolden]

I closed the store because my really close girlfriend, she was. It was just. It was time. And then we closed the store. And Adair was like, just chill. You. You know, let's figure out. What do you want to do? And he was like, you can be. You can't be a. What is this saying? You can't be a jack of trades.

[Morgan Stewart]

You can't be a jack of all trades and a master of none, right? Is that what it is?

[Jason Bolden]

Yeah, I think it's something like.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's something like that master of none old person saying, like, yeah, Jason diamond just said it.

[Jason Bolden]

Tattoo. Yep. Here we go. So he was like, what do you want to do? And I was like, well, I don't know. And I was like, well, you know, I really. I like to do. I just kind of love everything. I have a good sense of taste when it comes to furniture and. Da, da. And he was like, well, you got a store. Why don't you just, like, do some stuff like that? And I was like, I don't know how to be a stylist. And then at this particular point, it was in like maybe like a week span of me closing the business and having overflow. Not closing. I just separated from her overflow and Gabrielle Union, who's one of my best friends. She called and she was like. And it was just like, if you would call and be like, babe, I gotta go to Art Basel. Basil, do you have anything? And that's how it started. So we go to our Basel. I give her a vintage Lanvin dress, an Alaia. I mean, the Lanvin is like highly flammability because it was all polyester back then, the 70s, but it was so. It was like a little long sleeve, like, Hostess with the Moses kind of thing. Just everything.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yes.

[Jason Bolden]

It was like multi color. It was blue, white, and red. And it was like. It was just really chic. Boat neck, long sleeve, gorgeous. It was major. And then an Alaia dress, and she wore it. And then the Lanvin look got published in Vogue. And Vogue called me Jason Bolden, lifestyle curator. I was like, bitch, what the fuck is that?

[Morgan Stewart]

What the fuck is that?

[Jason Bolden]

So then people just start calling me. And I was like, hi. I didn't know what I was doing. I put my whole entire business started on my black card, on my American Express card. Now it's black. Cause I've had it for bitch. I'm a Rainy member for 15 years.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yes.

[Jason Bolden]

She just didn't get one last week. But so my whole business, I was, like, doing that.

[Morgan Stewart]

Wait, so this completely happened by accident? You had absolutely no aspirations of being an actual, like, personal style?

[Jason Bolden]

No, I didn't know. I was like, what? Like, huh?

[Morgan Stewart]

Wait, okay, so, okay, Gab Union gets published, people start calling. Who's the second person after Gab Union? Like, who do you start dressing? And are you still in New York or when do you dress?

[Jason Bolden]

I'm in New York. It just began. It was like. It was a flood of people.

[Morgan Stewart]

When were you like, okay, I'm good at this. I love this. And this is what I'm gonna do.

[Jason Bolden]

I think. I think it's when everybody just start calling. And then I had such a point of view for, like, a lot of. Especially at this time. I was dressing. I had every black girl. Every black girl.

[Morgan Stewart]

Who were you dressing?

[Jason Bolden]

I mean, everyone from Monica, Brandi.

[Morgan Stewart]

Forget it.

[Jason Bolden]

Nia Long, Saniya Leith. I had all of them. Tragedy. I had all. I had all of the girls. I had all the girlies, but we were. I had a different type of passion because I just saw this missing space of like. Like, how they weren't being seen or treated. So I represented. Or represented. But. And these were girls for me. I'm like, they're. They are the reference. Like, I look at stuff and I'm looking at people saying this, and it's like, nia Long. And it's like, oh.

[Morgan Stewart]

I mean, I don't remember a time before Neil Long.

[Jason Bolden]

No, Jay, let's go.

[Morgan Stewart]

So it became that. I feel like that's way bad.

[Jason Bolden]

I mean, Taraji was to the Oscars. She took me. That was my first Oscars. She took me to the Oscars. And. And I'll never forget. I'm on. She has this really iconic W magazine cover that Edward NFL shot.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Bolden]

And she called. She called, styled and shot. And we were in the room And Edward was there with us. And I look at Edward NFL, who was the shifting. The shifting fashion point in my life was Edward Enofeld. He sat on the sofa next to me. He goes, who do you want her to wear to the Oscars? And I said, my dream is Jean Batista Valli. I wanted a Jamba dress so bad. He picks up the phone, puts Jamba on hello, da, da, da. And I'm like, literally, literally erection. I'm like, like everything. And he's like, whatever you want. So unfortunately, the dress didn't work, but she wore it to the Indie Spirits Awards, which was major, which was still major. And the wing caught it. And then we did a custom Alberto Ferretti. And it was one of the references still to this. It was off the shoulder, navy blue, crushed velvet, just. And the reference, I didn't realize it was. I didn't realize that this was a reference or something that had penetrated me so deep. But it was the Princess Diana black dress. When she was on the green baby. It was that. But I did it in navy blue. Right. And then what ended up happening? It was this weird statistic or whatever somebody said with Getty, it had got more views, clicks, views or hits than that image did. It was some weird stuff like that. Don't quote me, but also quote me in research. It was something like. It was huge like that. And it was a gag for me. And then that was my. That was my first true, true, real press run. And it was for Hidden Figures. And, you know, she was nominated for everything. And then she won, like, I think she either won a globe or a sag, though. They won the sag. She won the globe in a white strapless Stella McCartney. Just nothing. She was just like. She was just like little rail. Ugh. She was just like, fly in the wind. She was so like, oh, hanger ready. It was everything.

[Morgan Stewart]

So that was like your first real press run movie ever.

[Jason Bolden]

That was it. Hidden Figures. And then. Then I just kind of. Like, I was in la. And then I just kept. I just kept. And I like to just say I just kept doing good work and just being, like, tasteful and, like, the things that I liked that I knew translated, because it's not. It's like nothing that anybody is wanting to show you or do is anything that's, like, groundbreaking. Like, when people try to say, oh, this style, this is the new stylist. This is the thing. It's like, like, girl, they dress up like, it's. It's fine. It's literally fine. But the point is, when you create a DNA and a point of view and you stick to it and you're so clear and you're consistent, that's when the girlies and the boys come, because there's something so clear about it.

[Morgan Stewart]

When you have such a clear point of view of things that are. It's not just a. You can't just slap it on everyone, Right? Like, you have to personalize every single person that you are.

[Jason Bolden]

That's a good stylist.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's a good stylist.

[Jason Bolden]

And also, you can tell how people collect the people that they. They work with. See, for me, baby, I had. At one point, I had Ava DuVernay. You know, I had Ava DuVernay down to Michael B. Jordan. Then I would throw an Angelina Jolie in there, and then I would throw. I would have, like, Amy shirl, who painted Mrs. Michelle Obama, which. I dress Amy Shirl for that. It's just like my stuff was arranged like. It's a range. The. The beauty of a good stylist is to have range. Just because you dress yourself well doesn't

[Morgan Stewart]

mean you can dress other people well. Absolutely.

[Jason Bolden]

Or you have the restraint. You have the point of view. Being like, child, I'm only dressing this one type of person because I. I can turn it.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right.

[Jason Bolden]

But for me, I liked the idea of seeing diversity in that way because it would challenge me. I also want to do the person that everybody says no to. But I'm almost like, oh, it's something there. Watch me turn this out.

[Morgan Stewart]

But also, talk about styling men and women. Oh, yeah, that's not easy.

[Jason Bolden]

And, baby, I turn it.

[Morgan Stewart]

I mean, all of the. I mean, I know that, you know, what we said about Nicholas Hoult on this show. I mean, that moment for me is something I try not to think about too much because it was just so fucking good. Michael B. Jordan for the. The Oscars this year. Let's just talk about Michael B. Jordan first.

[Jason Bolden]

Oh, do you want a gag? Let's just talk about.

[Morgan Stewart]

Let's talk about that.

[Jason Bolden]

Well, I mean, listen, I have. We have Michael B. Jordan, who won his first Oscar. We have Ryan Coogler, who wrote and directed the movie, who won for best screenplay.

[Morgan Stewart]

Jordan loved the movie, by the way.

[Jason Bolden]

It's amazing.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. Some people were like. I was like, he loved it.

[Jason Bolden]

No, it's. It's something very special about it. And they keep using this reference that it was just like, speaking of these shakes trial because, you know, I hate a shake. People talk about it, but they said it's like, the perfect shape. You can put all that weird stuff in it. And then he blended it, and it came out, and it's like, this is good. I like it.

[Morgan Stewart]

And he. Did you think he would win?

[Jason Bolden]

I wanted him to win very, very badly. I wanted him to win best pitcher because. And I think it's because I'm so close to him. And I just know that for Ryan Coogler in particular, like, particularly him, it's because I just know him, and I just know that he's in it just for the work. Anyway, so for Michael's thing is, like, we. I just wanted to do something. My whole run with Michael was like, how do we bring Sidney Poitier and Harry Belafonte back? Like, how do we bring that? You are that right now. And the Vuitton look was just. We fit it. We literally put it on for the first time, and it was just kind of like. You know when you put. Like when you're trying to find something, you're like, this just can't be this right. We put it on, and it was right.

[Morgan Stewart]

And that was it.

[Jason Bolden]

That was it. And it was beautiful. And I just think he looked so, like, solid and easy, and it was. It felt fresh.

[Morgan Stewart]

Tell me about working with Nicole. Oh, Nicole.

[Jason Bolden]

I mean, oh, Kidman.

[Morgan Stewart]

First of all, how long have we been working with Nicole?

[Jason Bolden]

Because I just feel like four or five years.

[Morgan Stewart]

Has it been that long?

[Jason Bolden]

Girl, it's like that. But, like, for again, this is the thing. Talking from a boy from St. Louis, Missouri, having the ultimate reference. Like, she's someone everybody can be. Like, I'm a fashion girly. I'm a this, I'm a that. But, baby, have you ever stood in a room where Galliano has draped on you or Karl Lagerfeld has draped on you? Like, have you ever stood in those? You ain't never done that. So you hold. Hold all of your stuff to yourself. Like, that is a fashion girl. You know, we call her Mother Couture because all she does is couture. She is the reference for couture. She started the red carpet. That chartreuse Dior. What are we talking about?

[Morgan Stewart]

I think about that dress once a week, baby.

[Jason Bolden]

What are we talking about?

[Morgan Stewart]

Like, that with the tendrils. I mean, that.

[Jason Bolden]

Let me tell you, the realest gag to all of this is, is Nick is probably the most humble, of course, happiest funny. Like.

[Morgan Stewart]

Like, well, you know. Do you know she's a Gemini, baby, I know. Thank you.

[Jason Bolden]

Wicked, wicked, wicked, wicked, wicked, wicked, wicked sense of humor. And she gives the best parenting advice. She's the one who told me like, she was like, you just got. She's the one who's like, we come here. Who we are. You just gotta let them. You gotta love them and let the them be. I mean, like that. But can you imagine that as you're putting her in a custom Chanel couture dress and she's like, babe, just love the kids and let them be. And I'm like, girl, you are the same size, but also Moulin Rouge work. Share it.

[Morgan Stewart]

But also the thing that's so crazy is like you're dressing all of these like top a list people. And don't you feel like the people who are at the top and the biggest are always most humble and the nicest?

[Jason Bolden]

Yeah, right. You know what? Yeah, very, very, very, very, very true. But you know, my biggest thing now is like when I meet these, Meet the young kids, I. I'm fresh out the gate giving them that. Or if I don't work with you, that's probably why. Cuz I don't have time. Like, I have the. Like I have the Internet's boyfriend right now. Tyreek Withers. Right? Everybody dies for him.

[Morgan Stewart]

We know. You know, he's a cutie.

[Jason Bolden]

I was just FaceTiming him this morning. We had the best conversation. But it's just like the morning of the Met or the day before the Met. I think it was the morning of the Met. We did his fitting, we went to go have coffee. And it's just like to see an. The underdog like that and to see his. To see how he's propelled and he's become like this.

[Morgan Stewart]

The growth.

[Jason Bolden]

He's like the fashion force out of

[Morgan Stewart]

like nothing out of nothing in such a quick time.

[Jason Bolden]

And he's just. He's just so humble and he's just like, just really, really happy to be there.

[Morgan Stewart]

Wait, okay, I have.

[Jason Bolden]

And people don't say thank you. These people are nuts.

[Morgan Stewart]

Can I tell you something the way

[Jason Bolden]

I tell you both Waters? Give me an option.

[Brendan Burns]

Horrible.

[Jason Bolden]

Great.

[Morgan Stewart]

We got another Saratoga somewhere. We're moving on to Voss. But the craziest thing about this is that the amount like of times I am interrupting my children to say please and thank you.

[Jason Bolden]

Crazy.

[Morgan Stewart]

Where are the manners?

[Jason Bolden]

They don't have them.

[Morgan Stewart]

There's no home training.

[Jason Bolden]

Listen, I dress 12 people for the men.

[Morgan Stewart]

That was my question.

[Brendan Burns]

So.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, no, 12. Who are those 12 people? And how does that work?

[Jason Bolden]

Girl, it's chaos. But I love it because it gives me. It's like it Gives me my calm. It's what I've dreamed about. So I don't complain about it. You know what I mean?

[Morgan Stewart]

But logistically, who are the 12 people?

[Jason Bolden]

It's crazy. So Nicole Kidman. Her daughter, Sunday Rose.

[Morgan Stewart]

Loved it.

[Jason Bolden]

Cara Delevingne. Nicholas Holt. Gigi Hadid.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, oh, okay.

[Jason Bolden]

Paige. Basketball player. Female basketball player. There is Steph and Aisha Curry. Yes, baby. And custom Balenciaga. Dwayne Wade.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, we.

[Jason Bolden]

Danny. Danny Ramirez. Tyreek Woods. And I think. I think that's it. That's 12. It was 12 people. And I think what happens is, because the trust is so deep with all those people and these really close relationships with the brands it has. It is such a science now. And it's like this beautiful mathematic equation that now has been solved. And it's just like, here is plug and play. But it's also, when you look at the body of one work, they all have one thing in common. And it's expensive. It's expensive cuz they look expensive. It is just like you poured everything that you had into this moment. But it feels so good and so solid and so authentic. You know, that's the through line for me. But everybody has their own personality. Everything is completely their own personality.

[Morgan Stewart]

Do you like to collaborate with your clients? Like, if somebody's like, I feel very strongly that I don't like this. But you have a very strong vision. You're like, it has to be this. Like, what are those moments of tension? How feel do you. They get resolved for you?

[Jason Bolden]

I don't do that. No, girl, you know me.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's a. We're not.

[Jason Bolden]

How many times have you sent me a photo and I'm like, girl, no.

[Morgan Stewart]

By the way, I do have a photo for Friday. I have to talk to you about stuff.

[Jason Bolden]

Okay, let's do that. But like, I think it's, it's, it's. I want you. And I say this to everybody that I go with. There's two things that I want you to do, okay? I want you to keep a job and stay healthy. Those are just two things. You know what that means?

[Morgan Stewart]

Just.

[Jason Bolden]

That's it.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jason Bolden]

Let me. I want you to worry about that. Do I love your point of view and your. Your attention to detail and your appreciation for the arts of this? Yes. But what I want you to understand is there is always a story and there's always a theory to why I'm doing this. So if I tell you, I tell this to people that I meet all the time or new clients that I Meet all the time. It's just like, if I tell you to wear this black dress, you might be like, oh, Jason, it's so simple. Oh, oh, my God. I want a thing. Or like, hey, just wear this black double breasted suit. Great white shirt, like, done. Slightly unbuttoned top. Easy, right? I just want to be. I'm like, no, there's a reason for all of this, right? That black dress. The reason I'm telling you, wear that black dress. That could be Mrs. Prada's favorite look from that collection. Now it turns into something else. But I want you to focus on staying healthy and doing your job. While I do my job.

[Morgan Stewart]

Correct.

[Jason Bolden]

Because when you asked me about that campaign, when you asked me about this, I'm like, here you go. Serve it up. Which one you want?

[Morgan Stewart]

This is. There are orders, there's steps. There is a whole process of getting people to places.

[Jason Bolden]

And I don't talk about myself like this, but I like to say, like, every single person that I work with and every single person that I touch has a campaign. Those are facts.

[Morgan Stewart]

I think the episode ends right there.

[Jason Bolden]

Those are facts. Those are facts.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's.

[Jason Bolden]

You can put people in great clothes, but what's the point? I need. I want to help you create a business where you make money while you sleep. Like, that's part of it. You should make a. This is a business. Your likeness and all those things as a business. So every time you walk out, I want you to be able to portray something. And Nicole Kidman says something to me all the time, which I think is so genius, and I took it from her, and I try to present it in every fitting. Who do you want to be today? Because Nick will say, babe, who do you want me to be today? And I would just gravel. And I'm like, now that is a thing.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's a. That's an icon.

[Jason Bolden]

Revo just got the Mbmbe something in

[Morgan Stewart]

England where you get like a stamper or saw it.

[Jason Bolden]

A pen. I don't know.

[Morgan Stewart]

What does she wear for that custom?

[Jason Bolden]

Givenchy.

[Morgan Stewart]

The light shoe with that. When I saw the side profile with it was sort of like a gray.

[Jason Bolden]

Yeah. And black, you know, but it's like. It's women, like, it's women like her. Like, when we were doing the Wicked run and, you know, we were pulling all. When Lee. From. When Lee was at Givenchy, and we were pulling all the Alexander McQueen things that he wore, and she would just slide them on and she was like, what do you think the woman would do? Say, who Wore this on the day walking down the thing. And I was just. Stuff like that, you're like, what you become. Where you see an actor be an actor, where you're like, that is exactly why you're nominated. That is exactly why you will forever work. Because you can see the true work and the Archer street come through them into the garment.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, final question. Jason Bolden, next five years. Is there a place, a person, a thing that you want to achieve, a client, a destination, anything that you're like, this needs to happen. For me in the next five years. It could be a bag, anything that you're like, today, in five years, I need to have this.

[Jason Bolden]

I mean, there's three things that I constantly talk about.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, okay. I love that he has three.

[Jason Bolden]

Tell me three things that I constantly talk about. Like, as you know, my husband and I own a cocktail bar called Damn, I Miss Paris.

[Brendan Burns]

He.

[Morgan Stewart]

I had to invite myself, but we're friends.

[Jason Bolden]

Damn, I Miss Paris. Really great. Like, we don't do any pr. We don't even talk about it. It's just. It's become, like the heart and soul of West Adams in a way. And I want to. To. I want us, myself and my husband to expand that into something else where it's.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's a brand.

[Jason Bolden]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Where you can.

[Jason Bolden]

Where you can. You know, I want to sleep with every man and every woman because I want my sheets to be there. I want everybody to want to be able to say, I slept with you. You know what I mean? Or, I've had dinner with you.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's gonna happen.

[Jason Bolden]

No, it's happening.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's gonna happen.

[Jason Bolden]

That's happening. So, like, that type of thing and like the, you know, the lifestyle of that. And then I really, really, really, really, really want to do a fashion historical film, like, costume design. And I don't want to say, like, what other people have fucked up, but, like, I want to do something where it's just like, is. I want to be so neat, deep in it that when I post stuff on my insta story, people like you. Like, I post that shoe. Remember that Prada shoe?

[Morgan Stewart]

Mrs. Prada was screenshot it for 100 years.

[Jason Bolden]

But it's like, I want it to be so visceral. I want it to be like, am I pregnant? Do I need a. Do I need a plan B or do I want to keep it? You know what I mean? I want it to feel. I want it to feel so tightly connected to someone. And the third thing, I just. I want to continue to try to create an amazing, amazing human. That's the only three things I care about right now.

[Morgan Stewart]

I adore you.

[Jason Bolden]

Same thing.

[Morgan Stewart]

I am so happy you came on. You're gonna have to because there's gonna be a lot of follow up. They gave me 55 minutes here, but you need to come back on because there's so many different things.

[Jason Bolden]

Talk about nothing on your paper. That's the gag. That's the gag. She said, Jason Bolden research. I said, girl, we ain't talking about that shit.

[Morgan Stewart]

Nope.

[Jason Bolden]

I But I'll see you this weekend. This is the other thing that a lot of people don't know because I'm gonna say this. This is the funny, funny, funny. Morgan's birthday is so close to my son's birthday that we actually have to plan around each other's birthdays.

[Morgan Stewart]

Correct?

[Jason Bolden]

It is the most annoying thing in the world.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm showing up really hungover Saturday. It's gonna be really painful, bro.

[Jason Bolden]

A good thing. There will be a DJ and a dark room so we will both be

[Morgan Stewart]

there and it won't be like last year because I will be taught The Morgan Stewart show is produced by SiriusXM and me, Morgan Morgan Stewart. Our audio engineer is Brendan Burns, our videographer is Kim Cohen and our video editor is Shannon Joy Rogers. Our executive producers are Cody Fisher and Adam Sachs.

[Jason Bolden]

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[Brendan Burns]

Snoring, Gasping during sleep? Feeling fatigued? Ask your doctor about Zepbound Tirzepatide, the first and only FDA approved prescription medicine for moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea in adults with obesity. Zepbound is a prescription medicine used with a reduced calorie diet and increased physical activity to help adults with moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea and obesity to improve their OSA. Zepbound is approved as a 2.5, 5, 7.5, 10, 12.5 or 15mg injection. Zepbound contains Tirzepatide and should not be used with other Tirzepatide containing products or any GLP1 receptor agonist medicines. It is not known if Zepbound is safe and effective for use in children. Don't share needles or pins or reuse needles. Don't take if allergic to it or if you or someone in your family had medullary thyroid cancer or if you've had multiple endocrine neoplasia or symptoms syndrome type 2. Tell your doctor if you get a lump or swelling in your neck. Stop Zepbound and call your doctor if you have severe stomach pain or a serious allergic reaction. Severe side effects may include inflamed pancreas or gallbladder problems. Tell your doctor if you experience vision changes before scheduled procedures with anesthesia. If you're nursing, pregnant, plan to be or taking birth control pills. Taking zepbound with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. Side effects include nausea, diarrhea and vomiting, which can cause dehydration and worsen kidney problems. Talk to your doctor, call 1-800-545-5979 or visit zepbound Lilly.com hey everybody, Ted Danson

[Jason Bolden]

here to tell you about my podcast with my longtime friend and sometimes co host Woody Harrelson. It's called where everybody knows your name and we're back for another season. I'm so excited to be joined this season by friends like John Mulaney, David Spade, Sarah Silver, Silverman, Ed Helms, and many more. You don't want to miss it. Listen to Everybody knows your name with me, Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson. Sometimes, wherever you get your podcasts.