Just The Truth w/ Susan Stewart

Summary

The Morgan Stewart Show

Episode: Just The Truth w/ Susan Stewart

Host: Morgan Stewart
Guest: Susan Stewart (Morgan’s mother)
Date: April 15, 2026

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Overview

In this revealing and humorous episode, Morgan Stewart sits down with her mother, Susan Stewart, for a candid conversation about family history, motherhood, personal growth, and the quirks that have shaped Morgan’s journey. With Morgan’s trademark honesty and Susan’s unfiltered "just the truth" style, the pair discuss everything from Susan’s upbringing in Switzerland to Morgan’s rocky academic history, their mother-daughter dynamic, parenting philosophies, and the generational changes around career, motherhood, and lifestyle. The episode is a heartfelt, funny, and relatable deep-dive into the absurd and beautiful messiness of real life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Susan’s Background: From Switzerland to Beverly Hills

• Born in Zurich, Switzerland, Susan moved to Los Angeles in late 1978 with her first husband (Andy), opening a shoe store, Andy Chilean Shoes, in Beverly Hills (03:54–04:51).
• Early entrepreneurial life, running shoe stores both in Switzerland and L.A., until about 1988.
• Anecdote: Susan is occasionally recognized by fans, even internationally—a flight attendant once identified her as “Morgan Stewart’s mother” while Sophia Loren was beside her (02:24–03:21).

Family Formation & Love Stories

• Susan met Morgan’s father (Herb) after her separation, when he rented the upstairs office above her store. Their first real interaction happened amid a crisis over lost electricity and dusty floors—Herb fixed both, leading to friendship and eventually romance (05:18–07:06).
• The progression from friendship to romance took about six months; Morgan was born before they married, a new revelation to Morgan during the taping (08:01–08:30).
  • Morgan (on learning she was born out of wedlock): “So the trash in this family is nutty.” (08:28)

Astrology, Compatibility, and Long Marriages

• Brief but playful analysis of birth charts—Susan is Capricorn, Morgan’s dad a Scorpio—and reflection on astrological compatibility in relationships (09:14–10:32).
• Morgan’s parents were together for 42 years. Susan credits their long union to both compatibility and shared European sensibilities.

Morgan’s Childhood: The Real Truth

• Morgan as a kid: Described by Susan as “very serious” and “reserved,” only becoming outgoing in later childhood (10:59–11:22).
• Humor runs in the family: Both parents had a sense of humor, but Morgan insists she’s the funniest (11:38–12:03).
• School struggles: Morgan repeatedly failed math, eventually requiring a diagnosis of a learning disability and remedial night school to graduate. She notes her parents didn’t realize the extent of her struggles until late (12:44–14:59).
  • Morgan: “There’s failing and then there’s, like, overly failing. I failed every math class for 12 fucking years.” (12:44)
• Lunchbox embarrassment: Morgan laments her mother's “bad pantry” (lack of snacks or junk food), comparing it to friends’ houses full of treats (15:15–15:52).
  • “This fucking house has no food... I was that friend with the bad pantry. It’s mortifying.” (15:15)

Parenting, Food, and Family Culture

• Susan’s European approach meant fresh daily shopping, limited junk food, and hiding sodas from kids (16:08–16:45).
• Coca-Cola was stashed in the oven to keep kids from drinking it.
• Both reflect on the quirks of their upbringing and how they influence present-day parenting, including daily dinners as a family (36:17–36:22).

High School Years, Friendships & Fashion

• Morgan was “funny, outgoing... a big leader” in high school, organized events for friends, and had a knack for style from an early age (19:04–20:01).
• Birthday parties were big events, with Morgan managing RSVPs months in advance (20:35–20:53).
• Fashion roots: Both mother and daughter share a love of fashion, shopping trips, and lunches at iconic L.A. spots (39:51–41:22).

Academic and Career Predictions

• Despite academic struggles, Susan always believed Morgan would find her own niche, thinking it would be in fashion rather than television or reality TV (24:19–23:53).
• First sign of Morgan’s media career: Her blog “Boobs and Loops” foreshadowed her path to greater success (24:51–25:20).
• Susan saw Morgan as destined for success, even without following traditional academic or career paths.

Motherhood: Generational Perspectives

• Susan admits she didn’t imagine Morgan would have children early, and reveals her own hope to become a grandmother (25:45–26:07).
• The pair explore working-mom realities: balancing business, travel for Rangley in New York, and the importance of supportive partners and childcare (29:52–31:17).
• Susan praises Morgan’s hands-on motherhood—making meals, spending quality time, and managing without guilt for accepting help or having a career (30:55–31:15).
  • Susan: “There’s nothing wrong with having help. I mean, fuck it. If you can have it, you should have it.” (31:09)

Morgan’s Kids: Ro & Gray

• Susan expresses equal love for both grandchildren but details their distinct personalities: Gray is calm, charming, and “so smart”; Ro is “very artistic” and “great with numbers” (26:50–28:22).
• Both agree Morgan is a “good, sometimes great mother”, with Susan emphasizing the impossibility of perfection and noting that being a mother remains a lifelong role (28:51–29:19).

Self-Reflection, Growth, and Honesty

• Susan candidly describes Morgan as “more involved” and a “better mother” than she expected, though admits Morgan can be somewhat self-centered—a trait she sees as common in their generation (35:20–35:55).
  • Susan: “You’re more kind of a self-centered person. Yeah, you. All that generation. It’s just about themselves.” (35:28)
• Both agree that having a career makes Morgan a happier parent, and that sharing household and parenting duties is essential (36:53–37:17).

Jordan (Morgan’s Husband) as a Father

• Susan is impressed by Jordan’s evolution from a young man she worried about to an “excellent father” who truly wanted a family and is hands-on with the kids (37:24–38:07).
• Differentiates their parenting roles: Morgan handles logistical/social, Jordan excels at hands-on play and quality time (38:07–38:34).

Rapid Fire: Lighthearted Reflections (44:21–46:42)

• Most dramatic? “You now,” Susan jokes, noting Morgan has grown more dramatic with age (44:36–44:42).
• Most “Susan” trait in Morgan: Obsession with closet organizing (44:50–44:59).
• What drove Susan crazy? Morgan’s compulsive gum chewing (45:31–45:37).
• What embarrassed Morgan? Susan showing up to school pickups in yoga outfits (45:46–45:49).
• Mother-daughter relationship summed up: More tense “then” (teen years), “wonderful” now (46:03–46:39).

What People Don’t Know About Morgan (41:47–42:12)

• Susan: “You have a very good heart... You wish everybody the best. You want everybody to do well, and I admire that.” (41:53–42:12)
• Morgan admits she’s grown into her generosity, and Susan affirms she’s “a lot nicer” than people realize.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• (08:28) Morgan (on learning about her birth): “So the trash in this family is nutty.”
• (12:44) Morgan: “There’s failing and then there’s, like, overly failing. I failed every math class for 12 fucking years.”
• (15:15) Morgan: “This fucking house has no food. There’s like, one bag of organic salad... I was that friend with the bad pantry. It’s mortifying.”
• (16:08) Susan: “I’m European. We went to the market every single day and bought the salad and the fresh bread…”
• (24:41) Susan: “I always had that feeling. You would find your niche. Okay. I always had that feeling.”
• (31:09) Susan: “There’s nothing wrong with having help. I mean, fuck it. If you can have it, you should have it.”
• (35:28) Susan: “You, more kind of a self-centered person. Yeah, you. All that generation. It’s just about themselves.”
• (41:53) Susan (on what people don’t know): “You have a very good heart. You’re beautiful inside and out, and you don’t have one jealous bone in you. You wish everybody the best.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Flight with Sophia Loren story – 02:24–03:21
• Susan’s immigration and early career – 03:54–04:51
• Meeting Morgan’s dad & beginning of their relationship – 05:18–08:10
• Astrological compatibility discussion – 09:14–10:32
• Morgan’s childhood personality & humor – 10:59–12:03
• Academic struggles—math story – 12:44–14:59
• Pantry/lunchbox woes – 15:15–16:08
• European food/parenting philosophy – 16:08–16:45
• High school leadership & birthday parties – 19:04–20:53
• Blog to TV, career predictions – 24:51–25:20
• Becoming a mother/parental support – 28:51–31:17
• Hands-on parenting and modern family logistics – 30:55–31:34
• Morgan’s kids & Susan’s observations – 26:50–28:22
• Jordan as a parent – 37:24–38:07
• Rapid fire Q&A – 44:21–46:42
• What people don’t know about Morgan – 41:47–42:12

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Tone & Takeaways

Morgan and Susan’s conversation is unfiltered, warm, brimming with wit, and deeply honest. Susan dispenses “just the truth” with motherly candor, while Morgan brings humor and self-deprecation, making the episode as entertaining as it is insightful. The Stewart family’s story—marked by reinvention, resilience, and realness—illuminates universal themes of growth, generational difference, and the courage to parent, live, and love authentically.

If you want the real Morgan, this episode is “just the truth.”

Transcript

[Morgan Stewart]

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[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I'll come back up for you.

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[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

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[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, so in order to support our show, we need the help of some great advertisers. Okay. And we want to make sure those advertisers are ones you guys are actually going to want to hear about. But we need to learn a little bit more about you to make that possible. Okay? So I need you to go to podsurvey.com morgan and take a quick anonymous. Okay. Anonymous survey that will help us get to know you better. That way, we can bring on advertisers you won't want to skip. Once you've completed the quick survey, you can enter for a Chance to win $100Amazon gift card. Terms and conditions apply. As again, that's podsurvey.com Morgan M O R G A N thank you. Hey, everyone. I'm Morgan Stewart, and welcome to the Morgan Stewart Show. I'm gonna be talking about pop culture, fashion, my personal life, and just a warning, I will be giving my opinions on everything. And those opinions are subject to change. Okay, now let's get into it. Welcome back to the Morgan Stewart Show. So when I started this podcast, I knew I wanted it to be honest about life and motherhood. Ident. And the people who shape us long before anybody else does. And for this reason, I had to have the woman who made me who I am. She's seen every version of me. The messy, the confident, the unsure, the determined. Right? And loved me through all of it. So everybody please welcome Susan to the show.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Thank you.

[Morgan Stewart]

Let's not be. We're not gonna be timid. We're gonna be open and honest during this whole conversation. Okay?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Okay.

[Morgan Stewart]

Susan talks lots of shit. And then when there's a camera on, she gets a little nervous. So we're gonna pull all that.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, I'm not talking about shit. It's just the truth.

[Morgan Stewart]

Not talking about shit. There's gonna be a language barrier sometimes.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Okay.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. So we have lots of questions for you. Are you ready?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I'm ready.

[Morgan Stewart]

Are you excited?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes, I am.

[Morgan Stewart]

Do you feel like you've done this before? Cause obviously you did. Rich kids with me a few times.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I was on Rich Kids a few times.

[Morgan Stewart]

You become an icon from that.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Oh, really?

[Morgan Stewart]

Tell the people. Quickly, before we start, how many times do you get stopped a week either at the supermarket?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Genuinely, I have to say about two, three times a week.

[Morgan Stewart]

And what are people saying to you?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Even when I'm in Europe and boarding a plane, people are talking. A flight attendant comes up to me and said, and there is Sophia Loren next to me walking in.

[Morgan Stewart]

Wait, wait, you gotta stop. Let's tell that story. So Sophia Loren, yes. Who is a very famous Italian actress. Hopefully my audience listening to this knows that. But if we get some Gen Z, you might not.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Very famous.

[Morgan Stewart]

Very famous. One of the most beautiful women from

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

the 60s, 60s, 70s, 50s, 50s, 60s. Beautiful, gorgeous. We were boarding on the same plane in Zurich and the flight attendant walks up to me and she says, oh my God. And I look at Sophia Lorraine and said, oh my God. Yeah. Really? What an icon. Beautiful woman. And she said, aren't you Morgan Stewart's mother?

[Morgan Stewart]

There you go.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I was like, there you go. I was like walking in like this, I was just mortified. Yeah, mortified. And did you comfortable anymore?

[Morgan Stewart]

Was this. The flight attendant said this? Yeah.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

She knew you.

[Morgan Stewart]

And how old was the flight attendant?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I would say 40s. Yeah, late 30s.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, all right.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I guess they know you. That's the age group.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's the age group. Well, no, I'm not really there yet, but anyway. Okay, so let's go through some facts because I get lots of DMs about you, about your fashion, about you as a person. Okay. Where were you born?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Zurich, Switzerland.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. When did you come to the United States?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

1979.

[Morgan Stewart]

You came 1979?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

So you were pregnant already then?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Probably.

[Morgan Stewart]

So you flew?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, no, no, no, no. Let's explain, let's see. I came 1978, end of the year, I think. December, November, December, something like that.

[Morgan Stewart]

So 78, not 79?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

So you came here with your first husband?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

You got pregnant with Oliver? Yes. Okay, so gave birth in 79?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

Correct. OK, and what did you do for work when you lived in Los Angeles, when you moved?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

We were in the fashion industry. We designed shoes. It was the Andy Chilean shoes.

[Morgan Stewart]

So you had a shoe store?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes, we had stores in Switzerland and then we came to Los Angeles, opened a store in Beverly Hills.

[Morgan Stewart]

What street?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Brighton Way.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, and how long did you have that store?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Until 19. You were born?

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, we don't need, you know, 88.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I would say about nine years.

[Morgan Stewart]

Nine years you had the store. Okay, so you had the store. So I don't even know this. So you were married to Andy, you had the store. And how long. When did you split up?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

1984.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. And then you met dad. Well, first of all, how did you meet dad?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Dad moved in the same building. He rented an office space, very big office space. And he did some remodeling up there.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. Above where your store was?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes. And one morning I came to the store and I had no lights.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, were you fucking freaking out?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Freaking out.

[Morgan Stewart]

Freaking. Well, just a quick tidbit too, before she continues. Susan has absolutely zero chill. Nothing is relaxed, everything's uptight, something's out of place, there's dust on something or something doesn't work, she cannot function.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes, okay. Correct.

[Morgan Stewart]

So you had no lights in your store?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No lights. Went upstairs, knocked on the door. I don't know, 8, 9. Construction worker. And then I see this guy in the corner and I thought, oh, my God, what a good looking guy.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I mean, like. But still, I said, okay, business, first year. And I sat. What the fuck's going on here? I have no lights. I have a store. I have a business to run. Clients are coming at 10 o' clock and it's like 9:30 and no lights. So he came out and he said, yeah, I'm really sorry and I'm gonna replace him. And I said, yeah, when? When?

[Morgan Stewart]

Now, while the tension's still deep here. Okay.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

And he did replace him the same day.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, really?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

So who was there?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Salvador and. No, it wasn't Salvador. Some other guys. I don't remember them.

[Morgan Stewart]

Also, just to keep you. Salvador's a guy that worked with my dad for years.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

But what was amazing is that I had a lot of dust on the floor. I had this beautiful pine wood floors. And it just. And I said, and look at these floors and the dust. He said, well, I'm gonna refinish them. Oh, and he did.

[Morgan Stewart]

And you were single at this time?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Separated. Well, that's separated.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's single, right? Thumbs up crew.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No.

[Morgan Stewart]

Is that not.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I don't think so.

[Morgan Stewart]

Really? If you're separated, you're not single?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Well, I still was married.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

And then how long after did you start going out?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Well, we were really good. Became good friends because he was like, lived in Europe for so many years. He lived in Europe, he lived in France. And he was very European. Part of him was very European and I liked that. So we connected and he took me out to lunch. Favorite place, Cafe Roma.

[Morgan Stewart]

Cafe Roma is a restaurant in Beverly Hills. That we went to every single day, basically until I was like 15 years old. Best pasta. Okay, so you were friends first, then you started to be romantic. How long after you met?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Probably about six months.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. And then I was. And then how long until you got married?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

A long time later. Oh, yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

You're talking a lot of shit about me not getting married on time.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

But you took a long time. Okay, but we had you.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, you were married when you had me, or you were not married when you had me?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Not married. What the. Skanky bitch. What the fuck?

[Morgan Stewart]

You didn't tell me that. This is. I swear I did not know this. You were not married when I was born?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No.

[Morgan Stewart]

Out of wedlock?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

What the fuck planet are we on?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I didn't want to get married so fast, but I wanted you.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, that's. That. Can't wait to tell Jordan that one. I'm going to voice note him. I'm going to voice note him right now. This is fucking crazy. Well, you never talking shit. Hold on.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

We never asked me. You never asked me, first of all.

[Morgan Stewart]

Just found out on the podcast real time. Susan and Herb were not married when I was born. So the trash in this family is nutty. Okay, so then you had me, and you wanted me. Dad wanted kids or didn't really want kids.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

He wanted. No, he wanted kids. He wanted the child.

[Morgan Stewart]

And then I was born because he

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

was in his early 40s and he figured it would be nice to have family. It was tiny.

[Morgan Stewart]

He was 44. You were 34.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Correct.

[Morgan Stewart]

So you were 10 years apart.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes, 10 years.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. And you were a Capricorn sun.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

And he was a Scorpio son.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

I pulled up your birth charts. Let's see. Because I want to see the compatibility. Clearly wasn't that great at the beginning if you weren't fucking married. I mean, that's crazy, Susan. You're doing business like that. That's exactly what happened with Ro and I. Or Jordan and I with Ro. Okay, so your sun is in Capricorn, your moon is in Scorpio, and you're rising is in Cancer. So emotional and whatever. Dad. Sun in Scorpio. So his son, the planet he was born under when he was. The zodiac sign he was born under when he was born is Scorpio. Your moon is Scorpio. My son is Gemini. Jordan's moon is Gemini. So if your sun sign is the same as your partner's moon sign, that's extremely compatible. And he was a Libra rising, and then he had his moon in Cancer. Which is why you last. How long were you married?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

We were together like 42 years, I believe.

[Morgan Stewart]

So you're. You guys have the same. His moon sign is your rising sign. So, anyway. Very compatible.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

It worked really well.

[Morgan Stewart]

It worked really well. I feel like you got along really well. 40 years together.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I think it worked well. Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. So then I came into the picture.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

And then that was the best day of your entire life.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Obviously, it was okay.

[Morgan Stewart]

And then what was I like? I'm sure that people want to know this. What was I? And don't give filtered bullshit. We want real answers here. What was I like as a child? Truthfully? Truthfully, from, like. From Ro is now four. So from, like, three to seven, what was I like?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Very serious. You were a very serious child. It's very hard to believe. I know.

[Morgan Stewart]

What do you mean, serious?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Very serious. I mean, you didn't really make friends that fast.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah. No, no.

[Morgan Stewart]

What do you mean? Well, I hated that one bitch. That one bitch.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I hated. You picked a few people at school, but you were more Serious.

[Morgan Stewart]

Reserved.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Reserved. Yes. Correct. More reserved. And then later on in, like, second, third grade, it changed. You became very, very outgoing.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. So was I funny? What was I like?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Very funny.

[Morgan Stewart]

Always, always funny.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Always, always. Really, really funny.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. And where do I get that, do you think?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

It's probably a combination of that and you. Yeah, I think so.

[Morgan Stewart]

You're funny. I don't know if you're intentionally funny, but you're funny.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I'm funny. That was very funny.

[Morgan Stewart]

Was he funny?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah, he was.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm more goofy versus funny.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I think he had some good jokes.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

But I think he was funny.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm definitely the funniest by far, I guess. Not even a question. Okay, so I was very serious. And then I started to become more outgoing. Meaning, like, more vocal with people?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes. Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

And then how was I in school? I mean, I couldn't pass a class to save my life. Why weren't you paying attention to that?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

We did.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, you didn't. But what was happening? I was just.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

We did. We got you a math tutor for I don't know how many years.

[Morgan Stewart]

Guys, I.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You were extremely good in English. Everybody told me all the time, you should become a writer.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Every teacher.

[Morgan Stewart]

But I missed every grammar.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Even the French teacher said, oh, my gosh, she's so gifted. She's French gifted.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. I had a really good accent. I wasn't.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

That was it.

[Morgan Stewart]

But I.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Very good.

[Morgan Stewart]

I missed every grammar lesson. Like, I don't know how I know how to spell any words. I don't remember anything from school, learning anything. And then I had math. Obviously, we had math. Every year I failed. I want you guys to know there's failing and then there's, like, overly failing. I failed every Math class for 12 fucking years. Finally, my senior year of high school, the dean of school comes to me and was like, you're not going to graduate high school.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

And I was like, I remember that's inconvenient. Like, I can't have that. Like, I need to graduate high school. Like, that's crazy. Like, what do you. I'm like, fun. And he was like, you failed math in ninth grade and we're going to tell you now. So I had to sign up. Well, first I had to get. I don't know where the fuck you were, what your parenting was going on.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Came home and he said, mom, I'm just, you know, I don't think I'm gonna graduate. Yeah. And then I looked at you and

[Morgan Stewart]

I said, uh, yeah, I remember vividly. You said, you're gonna get this fucking degree.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

What does it take? What does it take?

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

And you know what you did?

[Morgan Stewart]

What? Well, no, don't. Don't tell them. Don't tell them yet. So.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Still so impressed.

[Morgan Stewart]

So, first of all, they tell me, literally, I think it's November of my senior year of high school, that I'm not graduating. It's not a lot of time to make up the credit. I had passed everything. So then I had to math psychologist, which then at 17 years old, finally, they were like, you might have a serious learning disability in this subject. And that is why you cannot figure out where the. The numbers would, like, separate on the page. And I would. I think that's why my personality blossomed so much. Cause I couldn't fucking do it. And you're very good at math. Dad was very good at math.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

Jordan's very good at math. I'm like, no idea. So I had to get a mass psychologist, get diagnosed. And then I had to enroll in Venice High School. Night school. I want everyone to know this.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

On Washington Boulevard. I had to go four nights a week to take Algebra 1 to pass. And it came down to the last. To the last second. And I couldn't even finish that day. And the guy just ended up passing me. The Friday before the Monday we graduated, the school was already closed. Seniors were not there. I had to give my slip through. The school wasn't even open. So through the door to my dean of students and Said, here's the paper. And they made, like, a diploma for me, literally Friday, Friday night, and we graduated on the Monday. It was insane.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

But you did it.

[Morgan Stewart]

But where were you when I was. Didn't you think I was. Something was clearly very wrong.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Every single day. I was home, prepared your lunch and your dinner and your lunchbox. Okay. Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

We took you to swimming, packing weird

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

shit in my lunch and belly class and whatever.

[Morgan Stewart]

I also want to say. Okay.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Okay. Look at you now.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. Yeah. Well, I do want to say, like,

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I don't think I did that bad.

[Morgan Stewart]

When you. Friends growing up. No, they're all. They're saying, no. When you have friends growing up, if you're the bad pantry friend. Okay. Do you know what? You know what I mean? Like, if you're the friend that the friends come over and you're like, this fucking house has no food. This house has no fucking food. There's, like, one bag of organic salad. There's, like, nuts and dates and, like, everything needs to be prepared. Like, we had no fucking mayonnaise. There were no cold cuts. Like, I was that friend with the bad pantry. It's mortifying. But then I had a very good friend named Alison Dixon. And there was mayonnaise, There was white bread. There was some sandwiches. That was really what I needed.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

There was a lot of junk food.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. I didn't have. So that is another thing. We had no junk food in the house ever. We went out for, like, pizza. We ordered Chinese once in a while. And then if we had Coca Cola. You would do what with it? We had it. You would have to do what?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Coca Cola once. Well, when we went out for pizza, you had a Coca Cola. I just didn't believe in that kind of food. I'm European. We went to the market every single day and bought the salad and the fresh bread and anyway, really wanted to feed you back.

[Morgan Stewart]

Crap.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Crap.

[Morgan Stewart]

I had to, like, eat my lunch turned around for, like, 10 years because I was like, there's nothing in this lunchbox. It's crazy.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

And then.

[Morgan Stewart]

But when we had Coke, you'd have to hide it in the oven because we could. We didn't know where it was.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I did. I had to. The Coca Cola. Yeah, I had to.

[Morgan Stewart]

Guys, I'll house, like, 12 of them in a row. Like, I will not stop drinking it. So. Okay. So then I get into.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You still remember the oven?

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, of course. That's insane. I found it after a while, but,

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

like, took you a long time.

[Morgan Stewart]

I would finish the pack, like, in two hours and I still it's my favorite beverage of all time and I'll never let go of it. I feel attached to it. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. If you've been feeling overwhelmed, stuck, anxious or unsure, that's okay. Those feelings are more common than we think. May is Mental Health Awareness Month. A good reminder you don't have to go through those feelings alone. Having someone with you to listen, to understand, and to support you can make all all the difference. Whatever is keeping you up at night Therapy with Better Help can help you check in with yourself and gain support from experienced professionals. BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform. Just take a short questionnaire to identify your needs and Preferences and BetterHelp will handle the initial therapist matching work for you. Feel confident knowing Better Help Therapists work according to a strict code of conduct and are fully licensed in the US you don't have to be on this journey alone. Find support and have someone with you in therapy. Sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp.com morganstewart that's betterhelp.com Morgan Stewart There

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[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, how was I in high school? What was my personality like in high school? Fucking fun.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Very, very funny. Had a lot of friends. Organized everything for your friends. I remember even Neiman Marcus one time he said, oh, we all have an appointment. We're going to this makeup class. And you were just really a big leader. I mean, I feel like they all lived through you, all your friends.

[Morgan Stewart]

They still are.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

They organized everything for them.

[Morgan Stewart]

I organize a lot.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You came up with so many incredible things all the time.

[Morgan Stewart]

I don't remember the makeup class.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You don't? We went to Neiman Marcus. Everybody came to makeup class. And then the guy was kind of upset because we didn't buy enough. And we had, like, seven of your friends there and all did their makeup for the night, and we bought, like, a lipstick or something, and he expected us to buy lipstick.

[Morgan Stewart]

We probably should have bought all the products. Products.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I know, but I mean, you know, when you're like, what, 16? Why do you need makeup?

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, my God. Okay, so, I mean, you need the

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

lipstick and the little mascara. This is the time you look the best in your life because you want to put that stuff on your face.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's true. I will say to my younger followers, my biggest piece of advice is to be as ugly as you can for as long as you can remember the eyebrows. You don't. Let's talk about the eyebrows. So when I was 13, I was like, I have to wax my eyebrows. And then it was. She said, don't wax the top of your eyebrows. And I said, you don't fucking know anything. It's my life, and I'm doing whatever the fuck I want, and I am fabulous. And so then I started waxing the top of my eyebrows. It never grew back. And I wish. I wish I had not done that and just kept them as bushy as possible. Okay, so high school. So what was I like in high school? Fun, outgoing.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah, fun, outgoing. Remember all your birthday parties? December, you already told everybody they have to come, and Your birthday is May 22. You put so much pressure on them for them to rsvp. It was, like, unbelievable. But they all came.

[Morgan Stewart]

Of course they all came. What are you talking about?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

And all the parties were great, and I think we had a lot of great birthday parties and a lot of fun, I think.

[Morgan Stewart]

And I had very little friends. I've never had, like, a. Well, I've had, like, two bad friends.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah, but you had kind of always good people around you. You never picked the one that was going out drinking all night long.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, we definitely were not doing drugs and drinking in high school. That's like a newer.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Some good friends.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

And so nobody was sleazy and. No, but I wasn't nice people, nice families.

[Morgan Stewart]

I was not doing well in school ever.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, that. That. That was your issue. Yeah. I think if you would go to school now, I think you would do really well.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You know, certain people's brain, they're. They're just takes time. It takes a while.

[Morgan Stewart]

Do you think I was underdeveloped?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No. Look, I always say so many different ways, go to Rome. But I knew that you would Be successful one day. I did.

[Morgan Stewart]

Don't lie.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, no, no. I knew.

[Morgan Stewart]

Did you know I was going to be in this field?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah. Because you always said when you were a kid, you always used to say at dinner, wherever we went, you used to say, I'm gonna be a star. And that and I. We looked at each other and felt like, well, the math is not really going well, so what is it gonna be? And. But I knew, and I had a feeling it would be in fashion. Fashion, because you knew whatever you picked as a kid, the clothes you picked, it was just so stylish.

[Morgan Stewart]

I always had good taste, huh?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Always.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. I hope that. I hope Ro takes a turn. Cause we're in a scary spot with Ro right now. It's a lot of purple, a lot of pink, a lot of sparkles, a lot of my worst nightmares.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Well, she's four years old.

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, what was I doing it for? Very chic. I was very chic. I had lots of cool corduroy button downs.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You know what we did when you were four?

[Morgan Stewart]

What?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I bought the clothes. I picked the clothes.

[Morgan Stewart]

And I'm trying to. Clothes.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

And I show you. She won't pick them up. They're like, what do you want to wear today? You know, that's the difference. So of course she says, I want to look like Elsa today.

[Morgan Stewart]

Fucking. I have a fucking problem with Elsa. Fucking bitch. In On My Time, all these characters,

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

you know, you never had a Barbie.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's a lie.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You had Barbies.

[Morgan Stewart]

That is a lie. That's a fucking lie. So many Barbies.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

But you didn't play with them. You did not. No. You didn't play with the Barbies. You did dress up.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. Yeah, I did dress up.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Dress up.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. And I drew a lot. There was a lot of drawing, right?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

A lot, yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. So you thought I was going to be in fashion? Not on television. Are you nuts?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No. Because you always said, I don't want to be an actress. I remember that.

[Morgan Stewart]

And at that point, I don't want to be in a reality.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Because dad said, maybe you should go into acting, Morgan, because you read so well, your English is fantastic, and there might be a field for you. And they said, no, but I had the feeling it would be fashion. Because all these drawings you did with the different clothes and where are they, by the way?

[Morgan Stewart]

Isn't that your job? I have no idea. You pass that shit up.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I mean, you're not living at home anymore.

[Morgan Stewart]

I have no idea where that is. No idea.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I kept your yearbooks. I mean, I Kept everything.

[Morgan Stewart]

Let's not get into where the yearbooks are anyway. Okay. So then you thought I was gonna be successful. So then when I graduated high school and I went to community college, you were like. Were you concerned at that point? You were like, oh, fuck, she's got. What the fuck is she gonna do? Or what was a point where you were like, ooh, this is. We're a little worried now?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No. Well, you know, that was more concerned than I was, actually, because I said, no, everybody's going off to college, and Morgan, you know, she's gonna be here, and she's gonna feel in a few years. And I always felt that you will find your niche. Okay. I always had that feeling.

[Morgan Stewart]

So even in my early 20s, it

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

was just in my gut that you just actually would find your niche. And you did, right? You did.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. So then I started Boobs and Lubes when I started the blog. That was good.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes, that. That was the first sign when you started Boobs and Loops.

[Morgan Stewart]

Boobs and loops.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes. Y'.

[Morgan Stewart]

All.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I love that. I still missed that. I'm gonna bring it back every day to go online. Why were.

[Morgan Stewart]

You weren't supposed to be going on it. Are you crazy? No, that's not for you.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I wanted.

[Morgan Stewart]

You're on my ship.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

So much fun.

[Morgan Stewart]

Anyway, I'm bringing it back.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I knew. I really knew that something is going to come out of this.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. And then I got the show, and

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

then you got the show, and then that was.

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, has it. I mean, the show was huge.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Early on. Early on, we knew that you would supersede the show. Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. And so what do you think about Wrangley? It's amazing. So you thought I would design clothes?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I had a feeling, yeah. Eventually would do that.

[Morgan Stewart]

And did you always think I was going to have children?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Not at first, no. What are you talking about? No, no. I didn't really think he would have children for a long time. And you didn't. It was the right time.

[Morgan Stewart]

She acts like I had kids at 50. It's crazy. I didn't. It wasn't that long.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Well, you know, I mean, most people have kids in their, what, late 20s? I mean, you waited in your 30s, and it just. It was the right time, but I didn't really think he would have kids that fast. I was a little bit concerned about it because I wanted to become a grandmother.

[Morgan Stewart]

We know. We fucking know.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

That was. But, you know, you cannot push these things.

[Morgan Stewart]

But I had kids at the exact right time, don't you think?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

For you.

[Morgan Stewart]

For me.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

For you.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, not for you.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

It was perfect. No, for you it was perfect.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. And do you love Gray more than Rose? And don't lie.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

That's not true. I love them both. Really? Equally.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, what do you love about both of them?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Gray.

[Morgan Stewart]

We knew. We knew she was starting with Grey, though. She thinks Jesus, Moses and Zeus made grey from their hands collectively and brought him up through the earth.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Gray. What I love about Gray is that he is very calm. He's very collected all the time. I mean, maybe not right now.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, he's going through a little bit of a rough time.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

And she's like, he's so smart.

[Morgan Stewart]

He's smart, huh?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

He is so smart. The things he tells me in the car when I drive him to school. It's like I go, oh, okay.

[Morgan Stewart]

So what is he saying to you in the car?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Well, when I'm driving, he says, grandma, did you see the Waymo. He took a left turn. I mean, how does he know with three what left and right is? I mean, that's pretty. I mean, do you.

[Morgan Stewart]

I don't even know left and right exactly. I don't know what six times eight is.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

But also, he is just very charming.

[Morgan Stewart]

Anything else? Is he gorgeous?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Very charming and gorgeous. Of course. Just. They're very great. They're great kids. And Rose. Very artistic.

[Morgan Stewart]

Artistic.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Artistic.

[Morgan Stewart]

Not autistic. Artistic.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Artistic. Oh, my God. Very artistic.

[Morgan Stewart]

If she was autistic, that'd be okay, too. But she's not.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

And she's a fantastic gymnast. And she is.

[Morgan Stewart]

Do you love that? She's like. Gray is so brilliant. He's so small. He's gorgeous. She's like Rose. Artistic and a good gymnast.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, no, but Ro is very, very smart. She's great with numbers.

[Morgan Stewart]

She's very good at math, ironically.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Very good at math.

[Morgan Stewart]

And she's gorgeous.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

She's so good in writing and writing. Very good. And they're just lovely children.

[Morgan Stewart]

Aren't they lovely?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

They're sweet.

[Morgan Stewart]

They are sweet.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

They don't have a mean bone in them. No, they don't, but they don't.

[Morgan Stewart]

Are you just saying that cause you're their grandmother?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, no, no. You could tell, you know. I tell you everything.

[Morgan Stewart]

You could tell.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, they're very sweet children, I think quite well.

[Morgan Stewart]

Very sweet and well mannered.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Really?

[Morgan Stewart]

So how do you think I'm doing as their mother? You can be honest.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

What?

[Morgan Stewart]

How do you think I'm doing as their mother?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I think you're doing pretty good.

[Morgan Stewart]

What the fuck do you mean?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Well, no mother is perfect. Okay, so let's just not get there. That. Oh, I'm sure. The perfect mother. I have a business and I have this great husband and I have this. And I'm so perfect. No, I mean, being a mother is a tough job. I think it's the hardest job there

[Morgan Stewart]

is for a certain time. Not forever.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah. No. It never goes away.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, so what do you mean?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You're always a mother?

[Morgan Stewart]

Yes.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Even if your kid is 50, you're still the mother. You still care. You're still, you know, worried about things.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, so what do you think? So you think I'm a good mother, not a great mother?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I think you're a good mother. And I think sometimes you're a great mother. Don't piss me off when you take time out. Just be with them.

[Morgan Stewart]

I am with them all the time.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

A lot. But how can you be with them all the time? You have a business to run.

[Morgan Stewart]

Exactly.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I had the same thing. I had a business to run and I had two kids. It's tough sometimes.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's also not easy. That Rangley's in New York and I have to go quite a bit.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

That's another thing.

[Morgan Stewart]

And I am trying to not go as long, but, you know.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

But I think in general, you do a great job as parents, because when you travel, Jordan is home. When he travels, you're home. One parent is always home.

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[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

And I think that's what it is. But we're also in a new world right now. It's not like 50 years ago where the mother was home with the kids all day long, did all the meals and all this. Women have careers now, and they work and they have passion and they want to do whatever they love and still want to have a family. So it creates more tension. Tension.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's just difficult to manage all things.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Exactly.

[Morgan Stewart]

But I think that I speak.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

But that's when my grandmothers come in.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right. But I spend quite a bit of time with them.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You do a lot?

[Morgan Stewart]

A lot.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You're home a lot. You make dinner for them almost every night. I love that.

[Morgan Stewart]

I cook for them. We know.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, but that's nice. I mean, that's really nice.

[Morgan Stewart]

That is something.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You cook for them.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, I cook. I don't think people know that I make dinner for my kids four nights a week, at least.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

I make their lunch in the morning.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

Jordan gets them up in the morning. And then we have our days where we don't. We make sure that there's at least twice. Twice a week where there's no nanny. Once a Week. Once a week. And I am with them alone. I take them to their activities.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes. Look, there's nothing wrong with having help. I mean, fuck it.

[Morgan Stewart]

If you can have it, you should have it.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You do need it.

[Morgan Stewart]

I couldn't do this pot while they were.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Either you have a grandmother or grandparents that live near you, or you need to have a nanny or you need to have something. Two people are working. It's just. There's no other way.

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[Morgan Stewart]

And Ro's gonna get into a school and.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah, she's gonna start kindergarten.

[Morgan Stewart]

She fucking better.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

She really grew a lot the last six months. I can't believe it. Right? I feel like October 6th.

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, how many months ago was October? What are we in January?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

We're in January now. Okay, three months. Three months.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. Yeah. So they're doing well. And then over the summer we're gonna spend time with them. We're gonna go to Switzerland, which I had to do, which was awful. But it's fun for them because they get to have each other, right?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah, I think it's gonna be fun. It's really like leaving the house, going to the park, walk to the lake.

[Morgan Stewart]

The lake. You're so excited.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Go buy the fresh bread every morning. Ride the bike to places just different. Because doesn't work here.

[Morgan Stewart]

Do you think my kids are gonna have a hard time with the bike the way I did? I just want everyone to know. I want everyone to know now since we're all together. It took me six years to learn how to ride a bike. I could not. Could not.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

It was a long time.

[Morgan Stewart]

Could not.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

How many parking lots did we go in la.

[Morgan Stewart]

Could not figure it out.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Like early in the morning, were you

[Morgan Stewart]

not like concerned there was a hand eye coordination issue?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, no, no, no, no. That's one thing. As a parent, you cannot be concerned all the time. You. Oh yeah. Does it? I mean, look at you. Look at everything.

[Morgan Stewart]

You're so lucky. I'm so great every.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I mean, everything just works out at the end.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, but I mean, it took how many years for me to learn the bike? Yeah, genuinely.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, the bike wasn't that bad. I think it was more the rollerblading.

[Morgan Stewart]

All right, we don't need. That's like a very dated nobody's fucking roller. We don't need to keep bringing up rollerblades like that. Nobody knows how to rollerblade. That's like Woody Harrelson knows how to rollerblade. And that's it.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Okay, Roller.

[Morgan Stewart]

When were we rollerblading?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

At the beach, remember? It was the biggest thing, rollerblading.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, so in the 80s. I wasn't rollerblading in the 80s.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Oh yeah. 90s.

[Morgan Stewart]

What plan do you think I'm 65. How old do you think I am?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I was rollerblading in the 80s. So you're 90s.

[Morgan Stewart]

We don't need to know about your rollerblading past.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

So two years, a long time. I noticed you training wheels.

[Morgan Stewart]

We had to keep putting the training wheels on and off on because I just could not get it together.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

But then can you ride a bike now?

[Morgan Stewart]

Not well, not that well.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Well, maybe we train you in Switzerland with the kids. Yeah, it's gonna be so nice in front of the house. They can go back and forth and I can't wait to get the bikes for them. Okay, well, the first thing.

[Morgan Stewart]

All right, well, we'll do it for their birthday. So then what do you think? Do you think I'm exactly the type of mother you thought I was gonna be?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Better.

[Morgan Stewart]

Better, Better, better. What the fuck does that mean?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Better? Better mother.

[Morgan Stewart]

How did you think? Did you think I was just gonna be checked out?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, but you more kind of a self centered person. Yeah, you. All that generation. It's just about themselves.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm sorry.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Every second.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. What, so you thought I was. You think I'm self centered? I'm self obsessed, huh?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

A little bit, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

All the greats are. I don't think, I mean, well, the girl.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

The grades are never easy, right? Is that what they're saying?

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, so you think I'm self centered?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

A lot better. Yeah, a lot better. Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

So what did you.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

There's so Many things. I really admire that you do that. You make dinner for them every night. You take the time out and I think that's fantastic. The dinner table, dinner with the family. I still think it's very, very important. It's a time to kind of unload and connect with the kids.

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, we had dinner as a family every night.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Every night? Yeah, every night. Every night.

[Morgan Stewart]

Goddamn. Every night.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I had to choke down every night. Right. Okay. I think it was nice. It's the time you just, you know, can talk about your day and unload and sometimes it's not that pleasant. And sometimes it's more pleasant part of life.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, so you think that I am less self centered as a parent and I'm more involved with them than you thought I was going to be.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

But you think I'm still a little self centered. But don't you think it's good that my kids.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You have to be. I mean, look what you do.

[Morgan Stewart]

But don't you think it's good for them to see that I work and have a job? Excuse me, multiple jobs.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Look, I really believe that it's better to have a happy mother around than somebody that's miserable 24 hours, that doesn't have an outlet and is stuck at home all the time? No, but you know, everybody needs to figure that out themselves. What's best for their family and for them.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, Yeah, I agree with that. And obviously, you know, it's easy when you have a good dad. Jordan's obviously a very good dad to those kids.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

The best dad.

[Morgan Stewart]

He really is. Huh? Did you think he would be as good of a dad as he is?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I have to say no because I kind of knew Jordan. What, when he was early 20s. I mean, early 20s, nobody's.

[Morgan Stewart]

But then also when we got back together.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

But then when you got back together and well, there was one thing about Jordan that he wanted. Children.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yes.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

And if a man wants children, most of the time he's really a good dad.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Because most of the time the wife.

[Morgan Stewart]

The mother.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah. Wants the children and the husband goes like, oh, okay, let's do it. But he wanted to. He was ready for a family.

[Morgan Stewart]

He was, he was. Jordan is an excellent father.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Excellent.

[Morgan Stewart]

He gets up with those kids, he spends time with them. He's better at like getting down on the floor with them and doing quality time. He plays with gray, he plays with ro. I just sort of more of like the logistical going out there.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You do the logistics. I mean, drive them. Lunch, birthday parties. All these things. Outgoing with a lot of people. And he's more like. I love the games we play together. Like the Goldfish. Like last night, Uno. Gray would enjoy that.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, well, we know whatever Gray wants. Okay, so let me ask you some other questions. So. And also, I mean separately, the birthday parties. It's different now, right? Like, both parents go to a lot of birthday parties. When I was growing up, dad did not come to the birthday parties. No. He picked me up from school twice. He was working every day.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I have to tell you that I. All these birthday parties, because that's. They also work very hard the whole week. And that they have to be schlepped to a birthday party every Saturday morning at 9:30 is like fucking awful. It's awful.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, dad wants to be there. And you know, he's sitting there like, my wife will kill me.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I want to go play sports or running or play golf or. Let him. They deserve that.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's also easier to not have them

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

around for that birthday party. I mean. No, I said always to that. I said, you know what? Play your instrument. Do what you want to do. I'm gonna. But also, I was a stay at home mom for a long time.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

So I said, you just relax, relax. I'm gonna take her alone. I mean, just sitting there on the,

[Morgan Stewart]

you know, the cake and the singing. Awful.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, so let's talk about me growing up and what we did. What did we do? We went to. We went. What did we do for fun when we spent days together? We went shopping.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Us. Yes, we went shopping.

[Morgan Stewart]

A lot of shopping.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

A lot of shopping. Buying birthday gifts for all the birthdays we had to go. Went to get birthday clothes, clothing. We did a lot of lunch. Lunches.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I mean, when you were older. But the shopping. Because, you know, there were all these bar mitzvahs and these bar mitzvahs came and then we went outfits, you know, every time you said, I need a new outfit. Obviously. Obviously. Couldn't wear the same time.

[Morgan Stewart]

Obviously the same goddamn skirt twice. Crazy. It's crazy talk.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

So. And I think we had a lot of time doing that because we both love fashion.

[Morgan Stewart]

Do we love fashion? We do. We do.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

She's not good. But we also like nature. Dad loved nature.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, my God. We were gonna get into the fucking nature.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Wasn't it nice, the hikes we did. It was so relaxing.

[Morgan Stewart]

We definitely. I had a good balance. Right. There was a lot of Barneys New York. Oh, I know. The world ended that day. Don't start.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Don't start was the best.

[Morgan Stewart]

The best store. But where did we go growing up? So it was Barney's. We did Neiman's.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah. But those days, there were a lot of boutiques. Really cool, cool places. And they're all gone. Fred Siegel.

[Morgan Stewart]

Fred Siegel. Let me tell you something. If you're not from Los Angeles and you didn't grow up in this, Fred Siegel was like walking through heaven.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

They had so many cool things. You could eat lunch.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Could eat lunch there. I missed that place.

[Morgan Stewart]

I miss all of it. I mean, I also think, unfortunately, that Los Angeles is not at the prime it was once at.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

It was magical when I was growing up, and now.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

It was magical.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's a little dim right now.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

It was magical.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

All the little places, the little pizza place, the little Italian places, it's all gone.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm still focused on the fact that you thought I was rollerblading in the 80s. Like, that's really what I'm like, what is the rollerblading in the 80s? I was not rollerblading.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

We did. We went.

[Morgan Stewart]

Not in the 80s.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You were. I know. The 90s. Okay. I don't know.

[Morgan Stewart]

Anyway. Oh. I'm gonna ask every guest this. What's one thing that you think people don't know about me?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

That you have a very good heart.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's what Jordan said last week. Right. Or whatever he said. He said sweet.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You're beautiful inside and out, and you lean well, and you don't have one jealous bone in you. You wish everybody the best. You want everybody to do well, and I admire that.

[Morgan Stewart]

I think I've grown into that more as I've gotten older.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah, but you've always been like this.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, I'm really not. Like, I'm a little competitive sometimes.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

That's good. There's nothing wrong with that.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, but I'm not phased. If someone has more than me or does better.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, no. Absolutely not. No, you wish everybody the best. And even if we talk about some of the girls. She's so beautiful. She has this. And you really.

[Morgan Stewart]

You're nicer than people think.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

A lot nicer.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, a lot.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I think. Yeah. Yeah. Well, all your friends know that I have good friends. You have very good friends. For a long time. I mean, sorrow. I mean, goes back. I remember little girl sleeping over at my house, you know, and with her, we all went shopping all the time. To the top there and buy all these fun clothes and shopping, lunch.

[Morgan Stewart]

And then we traveled. We went to Europe a lot.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yes. Summertime was European. Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

And I went to the same school my whole life. Which was nice. Yes, really nice. I'm hoping that for RO.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

13 years up and down that hill.

[Morgan Stewart]

How many minutes did you drive me to school every day?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Two hours, probably. Half an hour down, half an hour back for me. Yeah. And then back down again and then up again. Yeah. I think it was like two hours. And no cell phones, nothing. If you forgot the swimsuit, whatever. Had to go back up again and down again. And I don't know. That's.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's what I. It was a nice time.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

It was nice time, right? It was easier. Was it simpler?

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Nice.

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, we had the car phone. Remember the car phone?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No. So, yeah, then. But that started later with the car phone. It wasn't so hectic. It seems everything is so hectic. Or maybe because I'm older. I don't know.

[Morgan Stewart]

Do you feel like you have way less patience now that you're a bit older?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

No, I have more. I have more patience with your kids than I had with you, I think. With my kids.

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, yeah, it's always different when it's your own kids, right?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah, I think so.

[Morgan Stewart]

You're stressed out.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

More patience and you're more stressed out. And now it's like, you know.

[Morgan Stewart]

And now you can hang out with my kids for, like, hours.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Whatever it takes.

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[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

They're wonderful.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, so I'm gonna ask you questions. We're gonna explain what rapid fire is meaning. And you just answer quickly. Not quickly, but just. They're quick answers. Okay. First one, who was more dramatic, me as a teenager or me now?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

You.

[Morgan Stewart]

Now you think I'm more dramatic now? Why?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I feel it.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, what's my most Susan trait? How am I most like you? Just being crazy,

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

obsessed with closet organizing.

[Morgan Stewart]

I. Guys, I will. That is literally my foreplay. If I can organize a closet, that's all I want to do. I just want to fix it.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I think it's therapy for us.

[Morgan Stewart]

Therapy. Okay. So what's your most me trait? What's most like you about? What's most me about you? Did I get that right?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

What? What was it? What.

[Morgan Stewart]

What about you is most like me?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Not so much. No. Patient.

[Morgan Stewart]

Not patient. Yeah, I'm not patient.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

At all.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I'm not that patient either.

[Morgan Stewart]

But with your grandkids, you are with them.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah, but with other.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, what's one thing I did as a kid that drove you crazy?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Chewing gum.

[Morgan Stewart]

What the fuck is wrong? Why? Who cares about gum? I love gum.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I know, but I can't stand it.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, Okay. What's one thing as a mom that you did that embarrassed me probably so

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

much when I picked you up from school in my yoga outfit.

[Morgan Stewart]

Why are you doing that? That was crazy. That was crazy. It was insane. Well, I guess I'm doing that with Ro now. And my leggings. And my hair's a mess. Okay, one word to describe our relationship then. That's a hard one.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Ooh, then.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, Back like teenage years younger. Like, what was our relationship like then versus now? A word to describe it then. Maybe more. It was more tense.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

More tense.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Yeah, right. Normal teenager.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. But I wasn't difficult. I was strong.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Well, it's always like the mother goes through menopause in the teenager. It's always kind of a little stressful. Stressful time.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm gonna.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

I mean, you're like, you know, it's not the easiest time.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, what's one word to describe our relationship now?

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Wonderful.

[Morgan Stewart]

Wonderful. Right.

[Susan (Morgan's mother)]

Wonderful. Couldn't be better.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's why you need to cancel your trip to Europe. Cause I need you to stay in March. Okay, great. Thank you. The Morgan Stewart show is produced by Sirius XM and me, Morgan Stewart. Our senior producer is Judith Kargbo. Our audio engineer is Brendan Burns. Our videographer is Kim Cohen. And our video editor is Shannon Joy Rogers. Our executive producers are Cody Fisher and Adam Sachs. Siriusxm podcasts.

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