You Got A Mouse In Your Pocket? w/ Jordan McGraw

Summary

The Morgan Stewart Show – Episode Summary

Episode: "You Got A Mouse In Your Pocket?" w/ Jordan McGraw

Date: April 1, 2026
Host: Morgan Stewart
Guest: Jordan McGraw (Morgan’s husband, musician, entrepreneur)

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Episode Overview

Morgan Stewart makes a highly anticipated return to the podcasting world, this time with more candor and self-awareness after a hiatus spent building her family and navigating real adulthood. This episode, marking her first with an official guest, features a lively and revealing conversation with her husband, Jordan McGraw. The two dive deep into the realities of their relationship, the challenges of fame (including Jordan’s unique perspective as Dr. Phil’s son), parenting, marriage, and breaking down public misconceptions—all while maintaining their signature humor and honesty.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Relationship Dynamics & Personalities

[03:43]

• Morgan and Jordan explore how they complement each other—Morgan is more outgoing, eager to connect, and intensely curious about people, whereas Jordan is more reserved and selective about whom he opens up to.
• Morgan: “I am like, tell me everything that’s going on… What’s your sign? Who are you?”
• Jordan: “If I know you, I care what you have to say. If I just met you, I’m kind of like, shut up. Just tell me your name and let’s figure something out.”

[05:07]

• They recount the arc of their relationship, from meeting at age 21, a wild LA phase of clubbing and fashion obsession, a breakup, and eventual reconnection after years apart—a “screenplay” kind of love story.

2. Reunited and Building a Family

[07:10]

• Morgan and Jordan discuss reconnecting in 2020 via DMs, meeting up in New York, and quickly rekindling their relationship. Morgan recalls high points like flying to Paris together and Jordan gifting her a yellow Birkin bag.
• Notable Moment: The date of their first “official” LA dinner (Dec. 9) is the same date, two years later, as their wedding—a serendipity they didn’t notice until looking back.
  [10:24] Jordan: “That’s crazy. I didn’t know that.”

[13:12]

• The whirlwind of pregnancy and marriage: Jordan is candid about being surprised at how quickly they had their second child and admits to underestimating the chaos of parenting two young children.
  [14:36] Jordan: “Busy—yeah, in every way.”

3. Parenting Realities

[15:15]

• Open discussion about parenting, toddler “threenager” stage, and how Morgan is “logistical parent” while Jordan is the “fun parent," often spoiling the kids with Amazon treats.
• Jordan: "There's no terrible twos—it's the threes."
• Morgan: “The problem with Jordan [is]...there is something from Amazon coming through this motherfucking door every day.”

4. Fame, Family, and Identity

Jordan’s Experience as Dr. Phil’s Son

[16:00]

• Jordan describes growing up in Texas with a non-famous father who became a household name through the Oprah beef trial and, later, his own show.
• [23:07] Jordan: “Oprah got sued...the beef industry sued her… so she hired my dad to help her pick the jury… At the end of it, she said, I want you to come on my show…”
• He shares how the drastic shift to fame altered friendships, prompted jealousy, and brought the “weird asterisk” of being Dr. Phil’s son (“People would say, ‘Oh, it’s just because his dad’s Dr. Phil.’” [16:38]).
• Jordan finds it easier to have adjusted because he enjoyed a “normal” childhood first, grounding his sense of self even amidst public attention.

Parenting Influences

[27:20]

• Jordan acknowledges he subconsciously repeats some of his father’s tricks and sayings (“If you say ‘we’ and I’m excluding myself from your ‘we,’ I say, ‘What? Do you got a mouse in your pocket?’” [28:05]) and is perpetuating family quirks.

Managing Misconceptions

[28:49]

• They talk about public perceptions—how Jordan is seen as “dour” and reserved, but is actually fun (and often “wasted” at parties, despite looking serious).
• Reading comments is Jordan’s “toxic trait”—he admits being bothered by judgmental feedback but brushes it off with humor.

5. Careers, Music & Entrepreneurship

[29:43]

• Jordan discusses pivoting from a music career to scoring TV shows (including Dr. Phil) and launching a new business: “The Department of Hydration” with the flagship product, “American Water”—a beer-can sized, American-flag-branded can of water. Morgan expresses genuine excitement about his entrepreneurial move.

6. Friendships & Social Life

[32:17]

• Amusing stories about awkward game nights with the Jonas Brothers (Jordan’s best friends) and early pregnancy nausea. Navigating the world of LA “notoriety,” past gossip, and winning over each other’s tribes.

7. Marriage: The Good, The Bad, The Honest

[36:22]

• Morgan and Jordan analyze the surprises and challenges of their marriage, mutual patience, emotional styles, and the need for “everything to be perfect” for Morgan to truly relax.

[39:22]

• They discuss Morgan’s struggle with anxiety and health issues, describing the patience required of both to endure a succession of personal difficulties and losses.
• Jordan: “We have gone through what most couples go through in 50 years of marriage… in five.”

8. Generational Values & Traditions

[44:24]

• Generosity is a family trait, especially from Jordan’s mother—Morgan describes her as the "Wizard of Oz," always gifting and spreading warmth.
• Casual and grounded rich-kid behavior is contrasted with public assumptions of stuffiness—New Balances, Uber rides, sentimental touches like birthdays painted in closets.

[51:01]

• Advice handed down from Jordan’s brother: “Make sure the person you pick is your person, because they are always around. Even when you’re apart, they’re still always around.”
• Both agree that friendship is the backbone of their relationship.

9. Rapid-Fire & Lighthearted Moments

[49:40]

• Who’s the fun parent? Jordan claims the title, Morgan says she’s the logistical backbone.
• Small gestures: Morgan tries to keep Jordan well-fed and buys him underwear; Jordan appreciates this but insists on eating on his own schedule.
• TV-watching oddities: Jordan insists the TV volume be a multiple of five; Morgan compulsively comments on whether actors are "good" mid-show.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Morgan: "The days are long and the years are short." [14:59]
• Jordan: “It’s like a screenplay—this doesn’t really happen.” [09:56]
• Jordan: “You can go on a vacation, but as soon as you come home, it’s full parent…the days are long and the years are short.” [14:46]
• Jordan: “If I know you, I care what you have to say. If I just met you, I’m kind of like, shut up.” [04:32]
• Morgan: "You’re more emotional than me." / Jordan: "For sure." [35:21]
• Jordan: “What’s the point of having something if you can’t share it?” [44:24]
• Morgan: "We have gone through what most couples go through in 50 years of marriage— in five." [39:53]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:43] Contrasting personalities: outgoing vs. reserved
• [05:07] Relationship timeline & wild early LA years
• [10:24] Coincidental anniversary revelations
• [13:12] Whirlwind family-building and handling back-to-back pregnancies
• [16:00] Growing up as Dr. Phil’s son, the shift to fame, parental influence
• [27:20] Parenting echoes; “got a mouse in your pocket?” explained
• [28:49] Public/online perceptions; Jordan’s comment reading confession
• [29:43] Career pivots: from musician to entrepreneur
• [32:17] Friend group memories; Jonas Brothers; social anxiety stories
• [36:22] Marriage insights; patience; emotional differences
• [39:22] Personal trials, health crises, family losses
• [44:24] Generosity, wealth, and normalcy; stories about Jordan’s mom
• [49:40] Rapid fire: who’s the fun parent? TV quirks, small acts of love
• [51:01] Marriage advice and core friendship
• [53:14] Traditions to keep and create; building family memories

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Episode Tone & Style

Candid, witty, self-deprecating, at times emotionally vulnerable but always anchored with humor. Morgan and Jordan keep it real about the messiness, joy, and absurdity of real relationships and growing a family in the public eye—frankly acknowledging privilege, anxiety, and the universal need for connection.

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For New Listeners

This episode is an intimate, often hilarious look into Morgan Stewart and Jordan McGraw’s world—far from superficial, it’s a testament to growth, second chances, and making room for both chaos and gratitude in marriage and parenthood. If you want honest talk about the behind-the-scenes of “big life,” this one’s for you.

Transcript

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[Morgan Stewart]

Hey, everyone. I'm Morgan Stewart, and welcome to the Morgan Stewart Show. I'm going to be talking about pop culture, fashion, my personal life, and just a warning. I will be giving my opinions on everything. And those opinions are subject to change. Okay, now let's get into it. Okay, guys. Welcome to the Morgan Stewart Show. I am so excited because today I'm having my first official guest, which is none other than my husband, life partner, best friend, Jordan McGraw. Welcome.

[Jordan McGraw]

Thanks.

[Morgan Stewart]

Hi, Judith. Hi, Judith. You met Jordan.

[Judith Kargbo]

I did.

[Jordan McGraw]

Finally.

[Morgan Stewart]

Finally. Right?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm honored. How do you feel?

[Jordan McGraw]

I'm honored.

[Morgan Stewart]

Are you honored?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Was it expected?

[Jordan McGraw]

No. I didn't know if I'd make the cut at all. I mean, eventually. Eventually.

[Morgan Stewart]

Who did you think was gonna be before you potentially?

[Jordan McGraw]

I don't know. Maybe Susan.

[Morgan Stewart]

Susan. But Susan. This is the thing about Susan. Quickly, she's spicy. She gets a few drinks in her, she'll talk shit about anything. She'll go there.

[Jordan McGraw]

You gotta have tequila. Present. Tequila.

[Morgan Stewart]

Tequila. He can do her accent perfectly. I cannot do her accent at all because I've been hearing it my whole life. But are you happy you're my first guest?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. Very.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, we have lots of things to talk about.

[Judith Kargbo]

Yeah, I'm terrific. And for the audience, Susan is Morgan's mom.

[Morgan Stewart]

Sorry.

[Judith Kargbo]

Amazing mother.

[Morgan Stewart]

Guys. Sorry. I should know that. I feel. You assume like I assume you know everything about me. Okay, first guess. This is a lot of pressure on me. They basically want to know, if I'm

[Jordan McGraw]

on you, it's on me.

[Morgan Stewart]

Is it on you?

[Jordan McGraw]

Because if I'm a bad guess, it makes you look bad.

[Morgan Stewart]

True. Are you going to be a bad fucking guest?

[Jordan McGraw]

We'll See.

[Morgan Stewart]

Don't. Did you eat breakfast?

[Jordan McGraw]

No.

[Morgan Stewart]

At least you wore a jacket. I know that's a big.

[Jordan McGraw]

She always gets mad at me if I leave the house without a jacket.

[Morgan Stewart]

Are you 11? Why don't you have a fucking jacket? It could be 90 degrees out of the jacket. You don't need that. No, no, you do. You need it. And we're going to bring it.

[Jordan McGraw]

And then I can never act cold, ever. Because if I didn't bring a jacket and I doubled down and I act cold, I'll never hear the end of it.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, before we even get into like the origin story of Jordan and Morgan, I just want to talk about the fact that like, we share a way more similar, like, preference to temperature that you want to admit. Do you want to address that on today's show or.

[Jordan McGraw]

You're a little hot for me.

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, you're a lot of hot, but okay. I didn't even set it up that way, but literally I. The room could be 82 degrees for me. I can sleep in that. I have a problem. I hate air conditioning. You want the room at like a 68?

[Jordan McGraw]

No, 72. No, I want to sleep at 68.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's insane.

[Jordan McGraw]

I want it, I want it 72 max. 74 during the day.

[Morgan Stewart]

But we get like, if we go to your parents house, it's a meat locker. It's the morgue.

[Jordan McGraw]

Well, it's switched lately.

[Morgan Stewart]

Why is it so fucking cold?

[Jordan McGraw]

Well, now it's hot.

[Morgan Stewart]

It is hot late though.

[Jordan McGraw]

I don't know. Yeah, I guess Texas is hotter.

[Morgan Stewart]

But we go over there and we've gone over there obviously for all the holidays. And I am literally just like, no, it's frigid. Like I'm kicking an addiction. It is freezing.

[Jordan McGraw]

And then It'll be like 65 degrees inside and my dad will open the door. I got a little, little, little air in here. It's getting a little stuffy.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh. And no, no. Okay. The one thing about Jordan is his impressions are top. They are so good. And this is the thing I was thinking about just our dynamic before we started today. Like, you're a slow burn. Right. Like, I think people would assume you're quite reserved, quite standoffish, maybe a bit distant.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Because you observe and you take everything in and then you decide if you like somebody or trust somebody.

[Jordan McGraw]

That's fair. Yeah. I'm not. Yeah. Also, like a small party is my nightmare.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right?

[Jordan McGraw]

Like chit chat.

[Judith Kargbo]

Oh, yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

It's my nightmare. With somebody I don't know.

[Morgan Stewart]

With somebody you don't know. Yeah, you're uncomfortable. Would you say you're uncomfortable around people you don't know?

[Jordan McGraw]

No, I just don't care.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, okay.

[Jordan McGraw]

Like, I. It sounds meaner than it is, but, like, if I know you, I care what you have to say. If I'm just met you, I'm kind of like, shut up. Just tell me your name and let's, like, figure something out.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, that's true. I understand that. And meanwhile, I am like, tell me everything that's going on. What's your sign? What's your sign? Who are you? Did your mom hurt your feelings?

[Jordan McGraw]

Is it rising?

[Morgan Stewart]

Is it rising? Like, where were you born? Oh, my God. Did your parents struggle financially at that one point? What time were you born? What time were you born? All of that. And then I'm like, oh, I don't like that person, you know? Like, I go backwards, basically.

[Judith Kargbo]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, let's talk about us. Are you ready?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. Are you not excited to talk about us?

[Jordan McGraw]

I'm pumped.

[Morgan Stewart]

We've, like, gone through a lot. I know, and it's weird to say we're soulmates, but would you consider us soulmates?

[Jordan McGraw]

Absolutely.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh.

[Jordan McGraw]

Oh.

[Morgan Stewart]

I want a convertible for Valentine's Day. I just want to put that out there. I want to hop around in one. I went through my 2016 photos, and I had one at that point in my life, and I was like, that was so me. Right. Just to, like, bop around in. Okay, walk us through. We met when we were how old?

[Jordan McGraw]

21.

[Morgan Stewart]

21?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

I had my 22nd.

[Jordan McGraw]

There were no fake IDs involved, so

[Morgan Stewart]

there were no 21. Right. I had my fake ID. I had my 22nd birthday with you.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yes.

[Morgan Stewart]

So we dated for how long would you say the first time I had

[Jordan McGraw]

was it, don't get it wrong, two years?

[Morgan Stewart]

No, it was like three year and a half.

[Jordan McGraw]

Year.

[Morgan Stewart]

It was like a year and a half.

[Jordan McGraw]

It felt like two.

[Morgan Stewart]

It felt like two year and a half. We lived together. How long do. Do you think we lived together? You have a way better memory than I did.

[Jordan McGraw]

Probably a year.

[Morgan Stewart]

Probably a year. We were full on. This was like LA was at its peak. We were going out every single weekend. Way more weekend, week, night, day. We were going. It was like Fred Siegel. Lunch in the day, Beverly at night. And for those of you who are not old enough or were not around at this stage of Los Angeles, the Beverly was the best nightclub on the literal planet.

[Judith Kargbo]

Wow.

[Morgan Stewart]

The energy was perfect. The aura of the space was perfect. We would walk in, we'd get that table on the left in the middle. And we would just go.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. Till they closed.

[Morgan Stewart]

Bunk Buck wild.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Crazy.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. It was amazing.

[Morgan Stewart]

It was amazing.

[Jordan McGraw]

It was Entourage.

[Morgan Stewart]

We were, like, in full Balmain. Like, I was wearing, like, Balmain motorcycle pants, and you were doing, like, a version of it. Like, Andemuelmeister. Like, it was crazy. We were really. Those people.

[Judith Kargbo]

Did y' all pop bottles?

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, my God. Pop bottles, bitch. I taught everybody how to pop a bottle. We were. We were really going ham.

[Jordan McGraw]

She was, like, out and about dancing.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

I would sit in the back of the booth and. With a bottle of Jack Daniels.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, the Jack Daniels was off brand for me. I was like, where's the champagne?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

But that was a really good time. Okay, so we. We're together for a year and a half. We broke up. We went completely separate ways.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, very much.

[Morgan Stewart]

Very much. We both had other relationships, other lives. Jordan was. You were touring for how many of those years since we got back together?

[Jordan McGraw]

All of them.

[Morgan Stewart]

All of them.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Cut to 2020. We rekindle via DM.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Who sent the DM?

[Judith Kargbo]

Who slid?

[Jordan McGraw]

It might have been me.

[Morgan Stewart]

You slid in. You slid in right with the dm. And I was like, this motherfucker thinks I'm dumb. Like, my rent is paid, bitch. Like, I do not.

[Jordan McGraw]

It worked.

[Morgan Stewart]

It worked well. I was, like, intrigued. But when. When I say we didn't speak. I mean, I had seen his parents in passing. We. Weirdly, consistently, too. Like, throughout the years, I'd see them at least once a year, either together or separately. And then we got back together very quickly.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. I was in New York.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yep.

[Jordan McGraw]

And I was on tour in New York, and I had to leave for a show in, like, an hour, and I. I found out she was in New York.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right.

[Jordan McGraw]

And so we met up. We met up. We met up. And then, yeah, I had to leave. And then I didn't see you again for a while.

[Morgan Stewart]

A while.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. And then. And then I had. I had a short break between the US And Europe, and I lived in a hotel. And so you came and hung out at the hotel a bunch.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right. And this was all like.

[Jordan McGraw]

But I was only home for, like, two weeks.

[Morgan Stewart]

Pandemic. And then Pandemic hit. Or was. It was about to hit kind of.

[Jordan McGraw]

It was like a rumor.

[Morgan Stewart]

A rumor.

[Jordan McGraw]

And then. Cause I was in Europe. I was on tour in Europe. When it hit Italy, I had just left Italy.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right.

[Jordan McGraw]

And then I flew you to Paris.

[Morgan Stewart]

You did? I had to bag.

[Jordan McGraw]

Eat the show of the tour.

[Morgan Stewart]

I Had to bag E. I was like, I need to go for three days. She's like, I don't know. I was like, let me tell you something. I'm going on this motherfucking trip, bitch. This show can handle itself. That's what did it. The flying to Paris and. Cause I also think, like.

[Jordan McGraw]

And I bought you a Birkin in Paris.

[Morgan Stewart]

You did buy me a Birkin in Paris. God. Tell the audience. I wasn't even say it. It was yellow. I still have it. Didn't get stolen.

[Jordan McGraw]

Good.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. That trip, I think. Well, I just think we really separated and really had nothing to do with one another. So the chances of us running into each other was like, again. And let alone creating a whole life together, I don't think either of us thought was gonna happen. Did you ever think that was gonna really happen?

[Jordan McGraw]

I hoped.

[Morgan Stewart]

Did you really?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Don't bullshit my audience. No.

[Jordan McGraw]

Because you said you always saw my parents, you saw my brother, and so you weren't not talked about.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right.

[Jordan McGraw]

And so I always thought about you.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right.

[Jordan McGraw]

And then when it. When we were in New York at the same time, just like all of the things that started happening, it just, like, felt like it was supposed. Yeah, it was like. It wasn't. It wasn't an accident. It wasn't like we didn't, like, bump into each other at a restaurant and then just, like, you know, say hi and walk away.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, I think it was pretty immediate. Yeah, immediate in the sense it was like, oh, this fits. Does this fit? This is weird. Like, how is this actually really happening? This is like a. This is like a screenplay. This doesn't really happen. And funny enough, when I was also looking back through photos just to get some inspiration for photos or for questions, I was gonna ask him today. Our first, like, official date in la, where we went to a meal. Cause we had done, like, a bunch of other random things. Was December 9th, and we had our. We got married December 9th. Two years.

[Jordan McGraw]

That's crazy. I didn't know that.

[Morgan Stewart]

Two years later.

[Jordan McGraw]

Wow.

[Morgan Stewart]

When we went to Petit Trois in the Valley, I had just left E. And so two years to the day we got married, completely had no clue.

[Jordan McGraw]

That's so cool.

[Morgan Stewart]

Wow.

[Jordan McGraw]

I didn't know that.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. So I see with you in the hat looking down, and it was like a white vintage ET I don't wanna talk about T shirts, you guys. Just separately. I can't find some T shirts right now, and it's making me lose my mind. Jessica, make sure you find out where they are. Jessica's my assistant. Okay. Okay. So then we got back together and then we're living in Malibu, by the way.

[Jordan McGraw]

I flew her to Paris. I was playing in an arena.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

And she acted like she couldn't give two shits.

[Morgan Stewart]

No.

[Jordan McGraw]

She played it so cool. And I'm like, what do you.

[Morgan Stewart]

I don't care about things.

[Jordan McGraw]

Isn't this cool?

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. It was a huge moment for you. Are we almost done? Is there a party afterwards? Accomplishment wise, it's huge. I am not big on like that kind of stuff. Doesn't. I think it makes me more anxious.

[Jordan McGraw]

She was texting during my set.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, I was not. I was looking. I was not texting. I was with Phil. Phil's his manager or was his manager or friend. I was fully engaged.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, totally.

[Morgan Stewart]

I have secondhand embarrassment for people that get on stage. Like, I'm very stressed out for them. I'm like, what's gonna happen? Here's the thing. I have the biggest mouth. I cannot public speak. I cannot get up in front of an audience and sing, let alone speak. Like, there's no way.

[Jordan McGraw]

That's our opposite.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's our opposite.

[Jordan McGraw]

But I can't do a party. You can do a party. You can't do stage. I can do a stage.

[Morgan Stewart]

Nobody can do a stage.

[Jordan McGraw]

I love a stage.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. But that is a very specific. It's almost like when you meet extremely famous people, they're always really in real life because they come alive in that larger environment. You are that way. I am a real human that happens to be good enough to do shit like this. But I want to have a very controlled amount of attention. You would have massive amounts of attention.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. For short bursts.

[Morgan Stewart]

For short bursts.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. I couldn't do it all. I can't. That's why a party bothers me because I'm stuck. Can't leave.

[Morgan Stewart]

Also, I'm a little worried about how much you've said you don't like parties because we've had quite a few of them. Have you always hated them?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, that's with our friends.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. We do a Christmas party every single year. It's important for you to know this and I think it's very important to have a sit down portion of the party because we're sophisticated adults. And he said this last time that he has to take over and redo the party because he doesn't think we should have.

[Jordan McGraw]

I throw a hell of a party. So does she. But I throw. I think I throw a better party.

[Judith Kargbo]

What kind of party do you want to throw as opposed to the one that Morgan wants to throw.

[Jordan McGraw]

Well, I just don't. I think that you shouldn't. There should be no requirements at a party, okay. Like sitting down is a commitment and you have to sit there and you know, everybody's eating and it's like you're waiting for the guy in the corner and there's a really slow eater.

[Morgan Stewart]

I set this table myself for hours. Okay, first of all, we're gonna continue to have parties and I think it's okay to have sit down versions of the party.

[Jordan McGraw]

I don't hate it.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right? Yeah, they're very chic. I wanna talk more about. Okay. You and I quickly. And then I wanna get into more of you.

[Jordan McGraw]

Okay?

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. And also, guys, you should know, like, these are things I have never really asked Jordan. We haven't really spoken about. So number one, get back together, we get pregnant, you propose, we get married, we get pregnant again very quickly, soon after. Did you think we were gonna have children that quickly?

[Jordan McGraw]

I didn't think we would have a second child that quickly.

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, no. Well, no one fucking did. Yeah, no one fucking did.

[Jordan McGraw]

Uh huh. I remember sitting on the end of the bed, she's like, I'm take a pregnancy test. But she took pregnancy tests while she was six months pregnant with Ro. So I was like, whatever. She's gonna just. She's got some leftovers, she's gonna take one. And I was sitting on the end of our bed.

[Morgan Stewart]

I was tired and not feeling well.

[Judith Kargbo]

I know.

[Jordan McGraw]

And I was sitting on the end of the bed with Ro and I went, mommy's gonna pretend she's pregnant.

[Morgan Stewart]

I looked away for one second.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. And she goes, it's positive.

[Morgan Stewart]

It was so positive. And yes, I did. I just wanted to make sure that like, either with both children, that they were both just for sure committing to coming. I just want to make sure, like this. What is the hormone? You were like showing the.

[Jordan McGraw]

You were more than showing.

[Morgan Stewart]

I know it's my fucking personal business that you're telling the whole goddamn world now, but I just wanted to make sure I had a few extra. I still have the pregnancy test that I took when I met. When I found out we were pregnant. Aw. And then a week later I was like dry heaping for my life. Okay.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. What would you say about the last five years? What would be an adjective to describe the last five years? If you asked me that, I would not know what an adjective was. But you do, because you're smarter than I am.

[Jordan McGraw]

Busy.

[Morgan Stewart]

Busy.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, in every way.

[Morgan Stewart]

Every way?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. Like Two kids is. It goes fast, but it does it. Not that fast.

[Morgan Stewart]

Not that fast. Yeah, it's quite a lot.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, it's non stop. And it's like, as soon as you, like, you can go on a vacation, but as soon as you come home, it's like full, 100% parent. They say there's no easing in.

[Morgan Stewart]

The days are long and the years are short. But I think we have found that, like, we are excited and I don't want to speak for you, you're the guest. We are excited for our children to go to that next stage. We love them small. I think Ro is at such a special age right now. We love her so much. Gray is a fucking little terror, isn't he? Right now.

[Jordan McGraw]

Right now. Yeah. The threes are. There's no terrible twos. It's the threes.

[Morgan Stewart]

The three major.

[Jordan McGraw]

The twos are adorable.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, Three. That's what it is.

[Jordan McGraw]

Three.

[Morgan Stewart]

Like, I'll smack the shit out of you. You're fucking out of your mind. You need to sit the fuck down. And we're not getting another truck and we're not getting a Barbie camp, and we are not getting a Barbie camper until her birthday.

[Jordan McGraw]

Okay?

[Morgan Stewart]

The problem with Jordan is that Jordan's like, oh, they need colors. Oh, my God. They need truck. I mean, there is something from Amazon coming through this motherfucking door every day. Like, the credit card needs to be snipped up and taken away from him. Everyone's like, Morgan spends so much money. It's you. On the children, on the things they don't need more shit.

[Jordan McGraw]

I bought him stickers last.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, it's granted.

[Jordan McGraw]

It was like 300 stickers.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, it was like 60 pages of fucking stickers all over my fucking floor. We have to put that away. Okay, so we've been talking about this a little bit as we're in the kindergarten process. Let's talk about Jordan McGraw, the person.

[Jordan McGraw]

Okay.

[Morgan Stewart]

At what age? Let's go back. Obviously, Your dad is Dr. Phil. For those of you who do not know.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yep.

[Morgan Stewart]

When we first were together, it was like that was the last thing he wanted to say.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, but for good reason.

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, what is that reason? Is it difficult to have a dad that's that. That famous?

[Jordan McGraw]

I think I cared more what people thought about it. And so, you know, it's like I was in bands and playing, you know, starting to play bigger shows. And the thing that. That bothered me the most is that people would say, oh, it's just because his dad's Dr. Phil.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right.

[Jordan McGraw]

Which was like, you know, like, if you think about it logically, like, he can't clap on beat, right?

[Morgan Stewart]

No, he really can't. Sweet man. Sweet man. He really can't.

[Jordan McGraw]

But how. How could he help that? Like, there's people there wanting to hear the music. Like, he. It's like they were implying that he wrote it and that it was just like, it became this weird, uncomfortable, like, explanation I had to give.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right. Like, you'd be ready for it.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. And so I just, like, I kept it as. You can't really keep it quiet. There's like, you know, the Internet. But it was just this weird asterisk that people would put next to my name and still do. I just don't care as much.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, I think you've really grown out of it. Do you feel in all honesty that you would have been more successful musically if your dad was not who he was or who he is?

[Jordan McGraw]

I should say, yeah, probably.

[Morgan Stewart]

Do you feel like your talent was maybe a little stifled because he's so larger than life?

[Jordan McGraw]

I don't think stifled, and certainly not by him. He's like, he was like the most supportive parent ever, and he thinks it's cool as fuck. Yeah, he loves it.

[Morgan Stewart]

He fucking. He's like, what's going on over there with that? And I'm like, what?

[Jordan McGraw]

You got any new songs? I'd send him. I'd be like, yeah, sure, but don't play them for anybody. They're not done yet. And I'd send it, and then I'd immediately get texts from, like, ten of his friends. Hey, heard that new song. It's awesome. I'm like, dude, he don't put it in the chat. Yeah, 100%.

[Morgan Stewart]

Can I tell you? The man plays tennis every week. He's got a group of guys that are just, like, always in and out. And he's just like.

[Jordan McGraw]

He's got more friends than I do.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. Than both of us combined and our extended family. Yeah, he's got so many friends. They, like, all are all friends.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. He plays Tennis Probably 340 days a year.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. No, it's. It's wild.

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[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, so another thing that I also. I touched base with you about a little bit I want to talk about. Obviously, we went to dinner on Sunday night and this was the first time, all joking aside. Oh, yeah, we went to. It was me that you were at dinner with. Yep. And we were at dinner. We were with the kids. We were taking them out. And two different groups of people. Well, a group of girls and then a separate group of girl. Another girl came up to me and I'll let you say it. Like, lost their minds.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, right. Like, legitimately, like, freaked out.

[Morgan Stewart]

One girl sat down, started taking photos. She was crying, she couldn't speak. Like, I haven't had that sort of attention in quite a while. One of the girls got ushered away, or the group of girls got ushered away. The other girl was just like, sat down. Ro jumped in a photo. Long story short is tongue out peace sign. Tongue out peace sign. So cute. But my kids, what was the first time that I think they were exposed to, like, oh, mommy is. Maybe Ro was like, why did that woman come up and say she loves you? Right. This is something that they're gonna know throughout their entire life. You born in Texas till what age? Until your dad started doing. Not the show, but the start.

[Jordan McGraw]

I would. I would say probably when I was. I think I was in like 11. No, because he. He did Oprah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Let's talk about the trial. When was the trial? And then we'll go backwards and explain to everybody what I'm talking about the trial.

[Jordan McGraw]

I think I was 13.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay.

[Jordan McGraw]

I could be wrong, but no, it was probably before that because it was A long trial.

[Morgan Stewart]

So zero to 13. Your dad is doing what?

[Jordan McGraw]

He was like a trial litigation consultant firm.

[Morgan Stewart]

So totally normal businessman in Texas.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. He would, like, help people pick juries for trials.

[Morgan Stewart]

So not famous at all?

[Jordan McGraw]

No.

[Morgan Stewart]

Had zero aspirations of being famous.

[Jordan McGraw]

The opposite.

[Morgan Stewart]

The opposite, yeah. Gets into. So explain from this point on what happens.

[Jordan McGraw]

So Oprah got sued for saying that she wouldn't eat beef again.

[Judith Kargbo]

I remember that.

[Jordan McGraw]

Because of the mad cow trial. Mad cow disease. And so the entire beef industry sued her. And because it's. It's wild. It's like, what? There's like a song. I'm getting chips like Oprah. Because she said she wanted ruffled lays.

[Morgan Stewart]

And so they made them always, by the way. Always rough. Always, always a ruffle.

[Jordan McGraw]

Oh, yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

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[Jordan McGraw]

But she said one day that she would never eat beef again because of mad cow disease. And the beef industry dropped, like, 10% overnight because she said that, like, nobody bought beef. So the beef industry sued her, which is crazy, because you should. It's First Amendment. You can say whatever you want. She didn't tell people to stop buying it, and so they sued her. And the trial was in Amarillo, which is the beef capital of the world,

[Morgan Stewart]

which you learn something new every day. Guys, did you all know that? Nobody fucking knew. Amarillo, Texas, is the beef capital of the world, okay?

[Jordan McGraw]

And they wouldn't move the trial, which is also, like, weird. They should. But the judge was like, no, we're doing this here, right? And so she hired my dad to help her pick the jury and run, like, mock trials and stuff and, like, help her get ready for it. And through that process, because she was in Amarillo, the death threats were, like, insane, like, non stop. And so my dad helped her personally, too, psychologically, like, kind of get through that. And so at the end of it, she said, I want you to come on my show and do what you did for me for other people.

[Judith Kargbo]

That is wild.

[Jordan McGraw]

And he said, absolutely not. I will never be on your show. I have no interest in being on tv. No. And she said, I just paid you a lot of money. Just helped me a lot. Just come on my show one time. And so, long story short, the first episode he did, she never got more hate mail for a guest than for him on that show. And he said, I told you, people don't like my brand of this. Like, whatever. She goes, come on, one more time. And he's like, okay, I'll do it one more time. And after that, she never got more fan mail for A guest than she got for him.

[Morgan Stewart]

So I guess. And thank you for like walking everybody through that. So I guess my point is, like, you literally grow up completely normally. There's no conversation about anybody being famous. It's not your normal. And then watching your dad be your totally normal. Coming home at five o' clock every single day. Dad to. Then doing Oprah for five years. He did. He was a guest every year as

[Jordan McGraw]

a first regular guest.

[Morgan Stewart]

First regular guest for five years and then does the Dr. Phil show. Yeah, for 22 years. 21.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, 20 something. 21. 22.

[Morgan Stewart]

What was that transition like for you going through that?

[Jordan McGraw]

It was honestly, I think easier than, like, I had friends in high school whose parents were famous their whole lives.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right.

[Jordan McGraw]

And I think I had it easier because I got like a normal. I got a normal childhood.

[Morgan Stewart]

Can I be honest? Really quickly, and I'm not just saying this, I think that's why you're so normal. I think that's why you're kind. You are a normal person. You're not an asshole and you're not a douche. Because I think you had that grounding very. If you grew up that way, I think it might have been different.

[Jordan McGraw]

I had friends that they just didn't know anything else. Normal people.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right.

[Jordan McGraw]

And so it's true.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, it's true.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. So I got like. Also, he, like eased into it. So he would fly to Chicago. It wasn't where we lived, so it was like this different. This like weird side quest that he would go do and he would fly to Chicago once a week and do the show and come home. And then it like, it was a slow build, right. And so he was just that guy that people had heard of. And then, and then, then he turned into like a household name. And then when he got his own show, that was mixed with us moving to la. So for me it was.

[Morgan Stewart]

How was that experience for you moving from all your friends? Well, your friends were. Did you like your friends in Texas?

[Jordan McGraw]

Some of them, yeah. Some of them got a little weird when he got famous.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, why don't you say what happened there?

[Judith Kargbo]

Jealousy.

[Jordan McGraw]

They were like, usury. And, you know, like, I, we got. We would get concert tickets all, like, I would, I would use his new fame for concert tickets, of course. And so like, I had, when I left, I had a few friends say, we were never really friends with you. We just wanted concert tickets.

[Morgan Stewart]

Could you imagine being 13 years old and somebody saying, I'm not really your friend? I would have beaten the calm. Being calm about It. Huh?

[Jordan McGraw]

They waited till I left to say it. Oh.

[Judith Kargbo]

Cause they.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, they knew.

[Judith Kargbo]

Fake. Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

But that's a Definitely, like, a very difficult thing to experience, as that was

[Jordan McGraw]

the first, like, hard part of him being famous was that.

[Morgan Stewart]

And then how do you think your friendships formed and evolved throughout your teens with that after that?

[Jordan McGraw]

Like, when I moved here.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

It was easy when I moved here because it was, like, it wasn't a crazy thing to have a famous parent.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right.

[Jordan McGraw]

So moving here was probably the best at that point. It was probably the best time for that to happen.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's the thing that I think I've thought about most, is just, like, how crazy it is to, like, have no aspirations of. Just, like, the universe opened up and just a chain of circumstances. And then all of a sudden, it's also like, oh, he could have done Oprah for five years, but then to turn into. I mean, we can't walk through an airport. Like, he can't walk through a restaurant. There are people clamoring. I mean, he's like, in the zeitgeist of fame.

[Jordan McGraw]

And most people don't say anything. So the people that do say something,

[Morgan Stewart]

quite a few people come up.

[Jordan McGraw]

No, I know. But if you walk 10 steps behind him, that's the best thing to do. If you walk 10 steps behind him, you see everybody that won't say something

[Morgan Stewart]

but noticed him, and then, okay, obviously having him be a huge influence on you in terms of, like, your life. But how much do you think you're like him in terms of being a dad to our kids?

[Jordan McGraw]

I don't know. That would be a. You.

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, let's talk about. Let's talk about. Well, what do you think you've picked up on? Or certain parenting tricks that you've. Like, just what he did to you. Do you repeat any of that stuff?

[Jordan McGraw]

I think so. I. I find myself doing, like, some of the small things he used to do.

[Morgan Stewart]

Like.

[Jordan McGraw]

Like, if I was holding his hand, he would, like, shoot me forward, right?

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, God. Yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

Zoom, zoom, zoom.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, God.

[Jordan McGraw]

And I do. I, like, didn't even mean to start doing that. And I do that with gray all the time.

[Morgan Stewart]

You're also, like, coming up with, like, a lot of catchphrases that are really cringe that he does all the time. Like, it is so. It's like a bag of nuts or something's coming. I'm like, what?

[Jordan McGraw]

No, they're usually just actual sayings.

[Morgan Stewart]

You don't know so bad. The sayings are, what's the mouse in the pocket that I still don't understand you saying all the time now if

[Jordan McGraw]

you say we and I'm excluding myself from your we, I say, what? Do you got a mouse in your pocket?

[Morgan Stewart]

What?

[Judith Kargbo]

Whoa.

[Morgan Stewart]

I don't get it. I still don't cry.

[Judith Kargbo]

Are these, like, kind of like Southern sayings?

[Jordan McGraw]

They're just thinking, no, I didn't make that up.

[Judith Kargbo]

Okay. Okay.

[Jordan McGraw]

But it's like, we, when you got a mouse in your pocket, it means because there's two of you, because this must not be me.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's like when somebody tried to explain what mutually exclusive means to me. I, like, still cannot understand what that means. For the life of me. It's not mutually exclusive. Like, what the fuck does that mean? What does that mean?

[Jordan McGraw]

You can figure it out.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. Okay. So I think you are. I think people have a lot of misconceptions about you. I really do. Do you feel like that's accurate? Like, that's like. I think people think you're, like, what do you think people think you're like?

[Jordan McGraw]

I think. I think, like, your followers, I think they think I'm a dude. I read comments.

[Morgan Stewart]

Do you don't. Why are you reading comments? That's like, your toxic trait. You love a comment. Do we get bad comments?

[Jordan McGraw]

No, but they'll be like, tell your husband to have a little fun.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

I'm like, I'm fucking wasted. What are you. I'm just trying to look at the camera.

[Judith Kargbo]

That's all judgy.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, I don't think. I think that people think most of

[Jordan McGraw]

your followers like me.

[Morgan Stewart]

I think everybody likes you. I think that you are definitely somebody that is maybe harder to know at first glance. Right. Like, I think people don't realize, like, we live a very. I would say I'm gonna be very careful when I use this word. Not normal. But we're pretty normal. Right? Like, we get up every morning. We get our kids up. We have breakfast as a family.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Jordan goes to work all day. Jordan goes to work. I think people don't think you don't. People think you don't have a job. And we are literally just.

[Jordan McGraw]

They think I sit around and watch the Price is Right all day.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Obviously, when we started, music was your focus. You have since transitioned. Music is always gonna be a part of you. We're always gonna be playing instruments around the house.

[Jordan McGraw]

For sure. I still do music, too.

[Morgan Stewart]

You do music? Well, you do. Okay, well, let's talk about some of the music. I mean, you did the music for everything for your Dad's show.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, I do most. Most of the music I do now is scoring. So I've done a couple other shows. I don't just do his.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, I know, but I'm saying, like the tribute.

[Jordan McGraw]

Other TV shows, some promotions, like promos, stuff like that for other people.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay.

[Jordan McGraw]

And TV shows.

[Morgan Stewart]

What do you think your day to day job is? Now?

[Jordan McGraw]

I have a digital marketing company, so I do that, which is like campaigns and you know, like releases and debuts and stuff like that.

[Morgan Stewart]

And helping me sometimes do shit and.

[Jordan McGraw]

Helping.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, sometimes, AKA never.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, well, yeah, I do.

[Morgan Stewart]

I help you give advice. But anyway.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. You just don't listen to it well.

[Morgan Stewart]

Because you're not getting a good angle. But anyway, continue on about you.

[Jordan McGraw]

And then I'm starting a water company. A canned water company.

[Morgan Stewart]

Can we officially say that?

[Judith Kargbo]

Exciting.

[Jordan McGraw]

We can officially say it. Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Do you want to. Can you say what it's called?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, it's called the department of hydration.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay.

[Jordan McGraw]

And the first product is American Water.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Judith Kargbo]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

And it's. Can we say what the can looks like? We have them all over our fridge, but it's basically like aluminum can and it has a American flag on it. It's called American Water.

[Jordan McGraw]

Okay.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's actually fucking cool. And I am a big oner. It is good. We did taste tests. We have like, really?

[Jordan McGraw]

And we picked the same one too, out of the taste test.

[Morgan Stewart]

What I like about the water too, is like, we did. There was five cans, right?

[Jordan McGraw]

Five. Yeah. Five bottles.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's effortlessly cool. You're like, wait, this. It feels like it has already existed, which is always the best. Shit.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. It's like the size of a beer can.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. So good, so good, so good.

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[Jordan McGraw]

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[Morgan Stewart]

The second date we had was with Joe Jonas. He was. Well, I had to do first and last name. Who's. Jordan's. What?

[Jordan McGraw]

He's one of my best friends.

[Morgan Stewart]

One of your best friends. And we had to do a game night. It was sort of like the. The night that they were, like. He was like, introducing me as, like, maybe something a bit more serious. How badly did I bomb that night?

[Jordan McGraw]

Well, you were also pregnant and we didn't know it was. I. Yeah, you had a headache and you were nauseous.

[Morgan Stewart]

I had to draw at some point in the game. Like, I don't want to fucking draw. Like, I want to just eat and drink this wine. And then. Let's tell them about the other thing. We also went to Mammoth.

[Jordan McGraw]

That was in Mammoth.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, we did. When we went to Joe and Sophie's house and we did the game where we had to, like, literally draw. We had a full day.

[Jordan McGraw]

You had to draw on your phone.

[Morgan Stewart]

It was gorgeous. Then we had to, like, draw on our phone. I was like, get me the fuck out of here. I don't want to fucking do this shit. I don't want to draw ever.

[Judith Kargbo]

That is funny.

[Morgan Stewart]

It was not good. But then we went to Mammoth. That was a funny story. We went to Mammoth.

[Jordan McGraw]

That's when you were.

[Morgan Stewart]

That was the first introduction. Me. All of his friends. It was me, Joe, you, Nick. Who else was there?

[Jordan McGraw]

Greg.

[Morgan Stewart]

Greg, Paris, some other friends of ours. It was the worst, worst three days of my life. We were fighting horrendously. I was like, get me the fuck out of here. I could not settle in.

[Jordan McGraw]

Oh, wow. She had a headache and was nauseous. And we were at altitude.

[Morgan Stewart]

It was awful.

[Jordan McGraw]

And so I was like, you're fine. You gotta just, like. You gotta just like, come hang out

[Morgan Stewart]

and try with my friends that don't know you.

[Jordan McGraw]

But it turns out she was pregnant.

[Morgan Stewart]

I was pregnant. I was pregnant, like, two weeks. And it was the whole thing. Yeah, but that was like a. Definitely, like a little. Because that was. Obviously you had friends that had some notoriety. I worked for E. I made a living off of kind of like making comments and talking shit about these people all day. There had been some instances where I had, in the past, talked a little shit. And then they circulated when we were all hanging out again.

[Jordan McGraw]

Oh, wow.

[Morgan Stewart]

They were like, oh, but you said this in 2018. I was like, bitch, but now I'm getting married. I don't think you need to bring that up. Like, it was a whole.

[Jordan McGraw]

They didn't Care, though.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, they didn't really care, but it was just definitely, like.

[Jordan McGraw]

They're also very normal.

[Morgan Stewart]

They're very normal. Obviously, Nick and Joe are your two closest friends, along with some other people. They definitely, I felt, in the beginning of our relationship, were very protective of you and really took a second. They were never rude, but took a second to make sure, like, I was cool and the way you were. Yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

But it was less about them and more about. They were very protective of me.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's what I mean. That's what I'm talking about. I think they were very protective of you because I think also they wanted to make sure, like, this wasn't just for, like, a short while.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Did you think that when we got back together, we were gonna be together forever?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

You knew it.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. It just happened to. It happened too naturally. It happened like, it was too meant to be to not be for a reason.

[Morgan Stewart]

And through the years, did you keep up with me at all? Did you see, like, little bits of anything you did?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. So were you, like, you're famous. I'm famous. Ish. I'm not famous. Like, I could totally go into a restaurant and, like, nobody would come up to me. Or I could go into a restaurant. Like, 60 people could come up to me.

[Jordan McGraw]

That's fair.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. So you were like, oh, I'm happy she's doing well, and, like, maybe we'll get back together one day?

[Jordan McGraw]

Pretty much. Yeah. Pretty much.

[Morgan Stewart]

Cause we. Would you say we're, like, the same person?

[Jordan McGraw]

I would say we're very similar people. I don't think we're exactly the same.

[Morgan Stewart]

I mean, obviously, because I'm crazy and you're not crazy. Right?

[Jordan McGraw]

I'm crazy. I have my crazies.

[Morgan Stewart]

Are you crazy?

[Jordan McGraw]

I have my.

[Morgan Stewart]

I think you're more emotional than me.

[Jordan McGraw]

For sure.

[Morgan Stewart]

You are. Like, in your feelings. And I'm like, are we gonna get through this?

[Jordan McGraw]

In my feelings, no. But, like, my emo phase was. No, that's over.

[Morgan Stewart]

He. I'm like, Lil wayne. He's like, Blink 182. Like, he's like. Like, where are. Like, it's emo bang. Like, he's very emo.

[Judith Kargbo]

Two great bands.

[Morgan Stewart]

Two great bands.

[Judith Kargbo]

I was like, those are great references.

[Morgan Stewart]

Like, I'm true hip hop, which people don't know about. And you fully. Thank you. And you are like, any sort of catchy pop rock song that's, like, kind of cheesy.

[Jordan McGraw]

Sure.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, I'm fine.

[Morgan Stewart]

Just own it. That's okay.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Judith Kargbo]

Blink 182 went hard, though.

[Jordan McGraw]

Exactly.

[Judith Kargbo]

I like.

[Jordan McGraw]

Exactly. Thank you. They did.

[Morgan Stewart]

I didn't, like, blink 182 ever. I mean, I didn't dislike them, but I wasn't like, they're amazing.

[Jordan McGraw]

How could you know? What's not to like?

[Morgan Stewart]

I mean, I just had a different taste in music. I also grew up in Los Angeles, so.

[Jordan McGraw]

Did you? Did they? No, but it's just San Diego.

[Morgan Stewart]

But yeah, same thing. San Diego. Okay. So what would you say has been the biggest surprise about us being together in the last. What have you learned about yourself with us being together?

[Jordan McGraw]

What have I learned about myself? Yeah, that I'm patient.

[Morgan Stewart]

You are very patient. Do you think you need to be patient with me?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Do you think I'm high maintenance?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. And I think it's crazy that you think you're not.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm, like, kind of laid back when. No.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

You know what it is?

[Jordan McGraw]

On vacation. You're laid back.

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, no, no, I. You know what it is? I am somebody that, like, everything has to be perfect, and then I'm laid back.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. Yeah. Which is impossible.

[Morgan Stewart]

Which is impossible. I just, like, need to, like, be, like, feeling good. The outfit needs to be right. I need to have slept enough hours. I don't like being hungover at all. You can, like, there's no. I have such a large amount of resilience yet. None.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, I know, right? Yeah. Like a five hour flight and you're like, oh, my God, I'm never gonna recover from this. I need to lay down for a minute. I need to put my feet up.

[Morgan Stewart]

The swelling is.

[Jordan McGraw]

Where's the blow dryer?

[Morgan Stewart]

No, the blow. Literally. Okay, so here's the thing. I love heat. I need heat on at all times.

[Judith Kargbo]

Okay?

[Morgan Stewart]

So if there's a blow dryer, I will literally just let that blow dryer run.

[Jordan McGraw]

Do you know how hard it is?

[Morgan Stewart]

I can just walk by the hot air. It makes me feel happy.

[Jordan McGraw]

You know how hard it is to watch TV while a blow dryer is going?

[Judith Kargbo]

That is wild.

[Jordan McGraw]

Because it'll be on. She'll be like, just watch whatever. And then put the blow dryer on. And it's like the frequency of it cancels out all TV noise. So it's like the volume's up to like 100 with the subtitles on.

[Judith Kargbo]

Oh, what about the space heater? Do you have them?

[Morgan Stewart]

Of course we have a space. We need to buy more space heaters. The other thing.

[Judith Kargbo]

I'm so sorry, Jordan.

[Jordan McGraw]

At least I'm not here today.

[Morgan Stewart]

Can I tell you the other Craziest fucking thing right now. Just some random things about us. Our fucking heat and air conditioning has been broken on the left side of our house for six months. And we have called. We. My assistant has called 20 fucking different people.

[Judith Kargbo]

Oh my God.

[Morgan Stewart]

We have such a specific unit that it cannot be fixed. Like no one knows how to work on it. And so we are really.

[Jordan McGraw]

Punch a wall out.

[Morgan Stewart]

We have to. Yeah. So it's a whole thing.

[Jordan McGraw]

That's why we haven't fixed it.

[Morgan Stewart]

We've really. We're trying to figure out how to like manage our heat. Yeah. But let's talk about some of your weird ass isms.

[Judith Kargbo]

What have you learned? He's learned patience. What have you learned from that?

[Morgan Stewart]

He's patient. I think I've learned that he's patient. And also like, again, like to touch on. I mean, the last few years have been. I mean, we could have never imagined what we had to go through as a couple. Right. Like, there was so much to. I mean, it's just. I still can't even imagine what we had to go through. And like, also for you to like keep everything together. I was clearly like, we had little children and I was like, yeah. Was I functioning or not functioning?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, you actually, you did better than I remember. I think if we didn't have kids, it would have been harder because you had a reason to function and like kind of. And so get out of bed and

[Judith Kargbo]

that forward momentum do the day.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, that was really just quite a lot. And then also I think patience, because again, aside from like all of the loss, like just again, like just quickly touching on, like me not feeling well, you felt was just this entire time, looking back, just an extreme amount of anxiety.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, it was.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, but Jordan, I was having. I was having full blown sugar crashes. Like I was not able to. I was getting blurry eyed. No, I was.

[Jordan McGraw]

You had one. One.

[Morgan Stewart]

I had two.

[Jordan McGraw]

Okay. One or two real crashes. And then your anxiety started manifesting itself as that because that was your biggest fear. Was that happening?

[Morgan Stewart]

But don't you think there was some physical symptoms considering the thyroid were so bad?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, so how long do you think I had anxiety extending past when my physical body went back to normal the

[Jordan McGraw]

entire rest of the time?

[Morgan Stewart]

Really?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

You guys, we could not sit at a restaurant together. No, it was really bad. So that's where the patience came. We have gone through what most couples go through in 50 years of marriage. We've gone through in five years of marriage. And sometimes I think that's because we're so fortunate. Like, God is fair. Do you think about that?

[Jordan McGraw]

You do a lot.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm like, okay, I can get. I have access to all of this stuff. I have all these bags. I'm, like, so fortunate. And then I'm like, But obviously, in order to have those things, like, my family had to die, and I had to not feel good.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, I don't think that's true.

[Morgan Stewart]

Are you sure?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, I think it's true. I'm more of a. Things just happen, and, you know, they don't happen to some people, but that's just because they haven't happened yet. You know, like, everybody has a problem.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right. We just had a lot of problems very close together.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Right. But that's why I think it's important to make sure you're with the right person.

[Jordan McGraw]

100%. Oh, 100%.

[Judith Kargbo]

You mentioned that last time.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. And you're better. I mean, I think Jordan is like, you're very balanced. You can look at a situation. You can understand things very quickly. Like, Jordan can draw, like, a landscape and do math. And, like, what's 6 times 8?

[Jordan McGraw]

48.

[Morgan Stewart]

I didn't know that. Is it. Can we check that?

[Judith Kargbo]

I believe you.

[Morgan Stewart]

Is it.

[Jordan McGraw]

It is.

[Morgan Stewart]

Like, he has very. So we don't math.

[Judith Kargbo]

What are we.

[Morgan Stewart]

He has very specific skills. Like, I've been on, what, 1.6 of Instagram for, like, 12 years because I inconsistently. So every week I'm like, how many more? Till 1 7. How many more? And he'll, like, do the math in his head really quickly.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. And it's basic math.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, it's not. There's so many numbers.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. Fair.

[Morgan Stewart]

The fuck are you talking about? And then he's, like, a really good artist and just. Good. And he's very good at, like, just, like, calmly assessing the situation.

[Jordan McGraw]

Keep going.

[Morgan Stewart]

I. If there's, like. If he's trying to explain anything to me about how he feels, I am immediately in panic and shutting down. And I'm like, well, get in the fucking game. Like, I have no ability to coddle. Would you say 100%? Because I'm afraid of emotion. I hate it.

[Jordan McGraw]

Well, I think I. When it's something really serious, you're good at it.

[Morgan Stewart]

I want to fix it immediately for you.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

So, like, if it's something, like, if I. So then I'm like, I'll buy you a thousand pairs of underwear and socks. You need a jacket.

[Jordan McGraw]

That'll fix it.

[Morgan Stewart]

I physically need to help, but if I have to be like, oh, like, I understand. And you know, you should feel. You'll feel better if you do.

[Judith Kargbo]

You do. More practical.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

I can't like, which, to be fair, works because I don't actually like. I don't want the like. Woo. Woo. Like.

[Morgan Stewart]

Oh, good. Say it again. You know what?

[Jordan McGraw]

I don't want the Like, I don't want the coddling.

[Morgan Stewart]

But you want me to be sweet.

[Jordan McGraw]

I want the understanding.

[Morgan Stewart]

I could be sweeter. I hate being sweet.

[Jordan McGraw]

You're sweeter than you give yourself credit for.

[Morgan Stewart]

Because in. In terms of actions, like, I like to like.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

But.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. I think even still, you're sweeter than you think you are and most people think you are.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. Oh, my God. What do you think people's this? You're the guest. But what do you think people's biggest misconception of me is? Okay, I'm ready.

[Jordan McGraw]

I think probably that. I think that people probably think that you're. I think people think you're more vain than you are.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm not vain.

[Jordan McGraw]

No, you're selectively vain.

[Morgan Stewart]

Like, vain like, about how I look.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. And, like, money and.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

Looks. And I think, like, everything. I think. I think people think you are because you have an appreciation for those things.

[Morgan Stewart]

Mm.

[Jordan McGraw]

And like, a. But I feel like your appreciation for it is more, like, from a creative standpoint. Like, you. Like.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's very sweet. I don't know if that's true.

[Jordan McGraw]

No, I think it is. I think you like nice things. You appreciate nice things.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. My Venus is in Taurus.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. You're not getting, like, a knockoff Birkin because it looks the right way. No, you know, no, they're all real.

[Morgan Stewart]

What do you mean?

[Jordan McGraw]

I know. I'm saying you.

[Morgan Stewart]

You know. No, I'm just.

[Jordan McGraw]

But you appreciate nice things. But I think the reason that you appreciate them is, like, the way they're made, the way they look with other things, the way they like.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yes. Craftsmanship. I'm all about that.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. I don't think that. I think. I think people would probably. I think the misconception would be that you just like them because they're expensive.

[Morgan Stewart]

And I think a lot of, like, my sort of brand and how people have gotten to know me has been so closely associated with money. Right.

[Judith Kargbo]

Like, well, you have a luxury brand.

[Morgan Stewart]

I have a luxury brand. And thank you for that being the first thing you said. But I obviously did a show with the title Rich Kids at Beverly Hills, which was not the title when we signed on to do this untitled project. So there was that. And then obviously, you know, we Are very fortunate. And our life is quite big, I think, to people online. And so people just constantly think that is, like, the first thing. It is big. We have a big, big life. We're fortunate, though. And we are not. I genuinely can say this. I think we are very nice people. And I don't think a lot of other people would contradict that if they were to come out like, we are nice and. And generous.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

And maybe too generous. Would you agree with that?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, but.

[Morgan Stewart]

Meaning you.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, but what's the point of having something if you can't share it?

[Morgan Stewart]

That's true.

[Judith Kargbo]

That's beautiful.

[Jordan McGraw]

You know?

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, that is true. His mom. Oh, don't piss me off.

[Jordan McGraw]

What? Sorry.

[Judith Kargbo]

It's okay.

[Jordan McGraw]

Sorry about it.

[Judith Kargbo]

Yeah, let it. Let it come.

[Jordan McGraw]

No, but it's true.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, but you get that from her, right?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, I think so.

[Judith Kargbo]

Well, I.

[Jordan McGraw]

But both of my parents, it's like,

[Morgan Stewart]

no, your dad is very. But your dad is, like, hilarious. Your dad is Ubering around this town. I'm like, you can't get a driver. He's getting into an Uber black. And being like, what's the car, man? Like, what is happening?

[Jordan McGraw]

But he's like. He's an old man, so he thinks Uber's like, the greatest invention of all time. What do you mean? I just push a button and the car shows up. It's black car.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's weirdly like, the most laid back scenario.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Like, there's like, the same New Balance. He's in those goddamn sweats every time we hang out with him.

[Jordan McGraw]

Well, they were gonna discontinue his favorite pair of New Balance, so he ordered, like, a hundred pair.

[Morgan Stewart]

He's like, in a sweat tracksuit all the time. And it's literally Ubering to, like, our house.

[Judith Kargbo]

That is dad behavior.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm like, you can't get into the. Or he's like, oh. Or he'll, like, drive his car that he copied from his son. Like, he is a dad.

[Jordan McGraw]

He copies all of our cars.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Judith Kargbo]

That's so funny.

[Jordan McGraw]

He has two cars. And one. One my brother had first and the other one I had first.

[Morgan Stewart]

It's really sweet. And also, like, we walked. I was just with his parents in Texas because they lived part time. Texas, part time here. And, like, they were giving me a tour of the house, and he's looking around like, what the did we spend on this shit? Like, he is like.

[Jordan McGraw]

But then secretly he's proud of it.

[Morgan Stewart]

He loves it.

[Jordan McGraw]

You'll leave one room and he'll be like, all right, you gotta come over here.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. No, no.

[Jordan McGraw]

And then he'll start rolling his eyes again.

[Morgan Stewart]

No. He's so fucking funny. What is that? Is that a Zyn?

[Jordan McGraw]

It is a Zin.

[Morgan Stewart]

You can't Zin on the Morgan Stewart Show.

[Jordan McGraw]

I've had it the entire time. I just.

[Judith Kargbo]

Zin. What is that?

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. Are we allowed to talk about the Zinn? Are they illegal?

[Jordan McGraw]

Well, these are sesh.

[Judith Kargbo]

Am I. Oh.

[Morgan Stewart]

So what is this?

[Jordan McGraw]

It's a nicotine patch.

[Morgan Stewart]

He has a pouch.

[Judith Kargbo]

Oh, okay.

[Morgan Stewart]

He doesn't. No. First of all, you don't drink coffee.

[Jordan McGraw]

No.

[Morgan Stewart]

He had one panic attack a year ago and there's been no coffee since.

[Jordan McGraw]

Oh, it wasn't just that, but, yeah, it was. I cold turkey, though.

[Morgan Stewart]

You did?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Judith Kargbo]

That's impressive.

[Jordan McGraw]

I was having, like four shots of espresso before 3:00'.

[Morgan Stewart]

Clock.

[Judith Kargbo]

Okay.

[Jordan McGraw]

That and then a coffee.

[Judith Kargbo]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Have you eaten any food today?

[Jordan McGraw]

No. Yeah.

[Judith Kargbo]

Although I do feel seen. The only thing is my coffee.

[Morgan Stewart]

Don't you have a panic attack? I'm having a panic attack if I have too much coffee.

[Judith Kargbo]

No. It gives me the will to live.

[Morgan Stewart]

I will say my morning coffee I'm very excited about, but if I had another coffee, I would literally, like, be like, inscribing my name in the walls here.

[Judith Kargbo]

That is.

[Morgan Stewart]

Which I probably should do.

[Jordan McGraw]

Do you want?

[Judith Kargbo]

Well, before we move anywhere.

[Morgan Stewart]

We're good.

[Judith Kargbo]

You got emotional.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I just.

[Judith Kargbo]

What was that?

[Morgan Stewart]

Well, I think I'm emotional because I'm like, oh, God, I'm doing something against you.

[Jordan McGraw]

Cause I'm so fucking profound.

[Morgan Stewart]

You're profound. But I think also, like. I think, like, your, you know, mom is very generous.

[Lifelock Advertiser]

Generous?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

Very, very. Like, too generous almost. Sometimes, like, she's like, really, like, giving things. And I think you get a lot of that from her, for sure. They are not. You're not stuffy rich people at all. You are generous people.

[Jordan McGraw]

Kind.

[Morgan Stewart]

Let's just have fun. She's like, let's do it. Oh, my God. Baby, anything you need. So the first time we met, I had her. I was having my 22nd birthday and she had, like, a personal shopper and stylist. And I was like, oh, I needed to get blah, blah, like a mascara. And she was on the phone and she was like, like. And me and my friend John talked about this for five years. This was the only thing that we had spoken about you specifically. That, like, was so funny. But she was on the phone, she was like, yep, they got blue. Yep, they got red. Blue, red, green, yellow, Yep. Send it over, send it over. Every color. And like 20 boxes of the shit came. I can't even remember what it was.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

And then we just went to her house in Texas. And let me tell you, I don't know if this is too personal, but we can take it out if we need to. We went into her closet. No, no, no, no. You tell him, tell him, tell him.

[Jordan McGraw]

In that closet.

[Morgan Stewart]

Mom, what are we gonna do for dinner? I'm like, what the fuck is happening? She had all of our birthdays hand painted into the wall of her closet. So my birthday, and I don't want it to be shady, but like, got the best spot. Did it not?

[Jordan McGraw]

You got. Yeah, you got pretty, pretty.

[Morgan Stewart]

I got primed. Fucking real estate. Walk in to the right. It is my birthday then. Your birthday. Where the fuck was your birthday at? I had a good spot on top of the door. The entrance of the door. Right. And then my sister in law, my brother in law, they were more in the back. No shade, no tea, just more in. And then it was our kids and their kids. So, like, she's just a very, like, warm. I'm gonna have her on.

[Judith Kargbo]

Yeah. Sentimental.

[Morgan Stewart]

I call her the wizard of Oz. Oh. Cause that bitch just sparkles. Shit, it's everywhere. There's always just like something. She'll like pull out a blue fur and she's like, I've had this for 10 years. Do you own it?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, I haven't even worn it. Tag's still on it.

[Morgan Stewart]

Tag's still on it. I'm like. Anyway, that's the other thing. I'm like, sometimes I get worried if your dad knows how much my jacket is. I'm like, fuck. Is he like, what are these kids doing with their money?

[Jordan McGraw]

No.

[Morgan Stewart]

Can he read my mind?

[Jordan McGraw]

No, he can read your emotions.

[Morgan Stewart]

He thinks I'm so nuts.

[Jordan McGraw]

He's a human lie detector.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, I know. I don't like it.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, that made high school difficult.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. But he's cool about it. He'll like pretend he didn't know, you know.

[Morgan Stewart]

Let's do a few rapid fire questions. Are you up for that, Daddy?

[Coop Sleepgoods Advertiser]

Okay.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. What? Oh, this is hard. Okay. Who's the fun parent versus the rule enforcer?

[Jordan McGraw]

I think I'm the fun parent.

[Morgan Stewart]

I think you're full of shit.

[Jordan McGraw]

I think I'm the fun parent. You take them to do things more.

[Morgan Stewart]

I'm the logistical parent, but.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, exactly. But I'm the fun parent.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, I. And I think you're also. You have a lot more patience on Getting on their level, and you really, like, want to play with them. And I'm like, are we getting the on with this? Like, I don't care.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, you still do, though. You do. Like, you do the dance parties, I

[Morgan Stewart]

do the dance party, but I don't. I don't have the patience to go through every Barbie Dreamhouse scenario. And, like, if Gray wants to create that Barbie Dream House, well, you're obsessed with her, and she's obsessed with you. And then, Gray, you're also a dude, so it's easier for you to play into both strengths. Okay, good. Let's do a few more. What's a small thing that the other does that secretly means a lot?

[Jordan McGraw]

Ooh, that's tough. That's not rapid fire.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. No. Well, I just.

[Jordan McGraw]

I don't know.

[Morgan Stewart]

Buying new underwear.

[Jordan McGraw]

What?

[Morgan Stewart]

Buying you underwear?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, I think you. Even though I won't eat when you tell me to, you always try to make sure that I'm well fed.

[Morgan Stewart]

He's not eating. What is up with that jelly? Sorry, jk. Bad joke.

[Jordan McGraw]

I eat on my own schedule.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, you do eat.

[Jordan McGraw]

I eat at weird times.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. What's something about marriage no one warned us about?

[Jordan McGraw]

I don't know. My brother warned me about everything.

[Morgan Stewart]

Did he?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. He's a good older brother.

[Morgan Stewart]

I know, but there's nothing to be warned about.

[Jordan McGraw]

It's not perfect. He was always like, make sure that the person you pick is your person, because they are always around. Even when you're apart, they're still always around.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay, so this was pre me. This was like, when you were skating around, he was like, make sure you don't settle on any of these hoes. Like, wait for the right one. Yeah, sure. Right. Got it.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

I think. Yeah. Marriage. We. Again, I think we've been very fortunate, but I do really believe, like, it's so cheap when you know. You know, when it's a right fit. Like, I genuinely.

[Jordan McGraw]

We're also friends.

[Morgan Stewart]

We're very friendly. I think we're friends above everything. But I think also, if we are watching a television show or anything, we are having the exact same thought and we don't need to say it. Do you agree?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, totally.

[Morgan Stewart]

Completely.

[Jordan McGraw]

I think if somebody watched us watch tv, we're like. We don't say a word.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

And then. Well, you talk through the whole thing.

[Morgan Stewart]

Or. I'm texting.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, yeah. Her. Every show we watch. Everyone. Or movie. It doesn't matter. She'll be like, is he good? He's good, right? Is she good? She's good.

[Morgan Stewart]

I need to know if they're being good actor. Okay.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. I'm like, I don't know you. And she goes, are they gonna. And I'm like, I don't know. I haven't seen it.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, let's talk about that one. And he. You're the remote. The television channel or the volume needs

[Jordan McGraw]

to be at what, a multiple of five.

[Morgan Stewart]

Serial killer. It's crazy.

[Jordan McGraw]

Unless it's below 10.

[Morgan Stewart]

That's. Come again. I also have a learning disability math, so I have no idea what he just said. But if the number. If it's at 42, like, that's not good, right? It has to be at. What is it then?

[Jordan McGraw]

If she has the remote, I'll close my eyes when she's doing the volume so that I don't see what number it lands on.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah, It's a whole thing. Okay, one more question. All right. What traditions are we most excited to keep or create as a family?

[Jordan McGraw]

Keep. I mean, we do the holidays pretty, right?

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah.

[Jordan McGraw]

So I think we just. We make every holiday as exciting as, like, Easter to the kids is as fun as Christmas. And I like that. That's what I would keep, I think,

[Morgan Stewart]

also keeping just sort of, like, the little things, right? Like making sure we're eating meals together and making sure the kids, like, are, you know, doing what, like, setting the table. Like, having those, like, little, like, chores and things that we do together is, I think, important.

[Jordan McGraw]

And then create. I think we. I, like, we went to Switzerland last summer, and we're gonna do that again.

[Morgan Stewart]

We are.

[Jordan McGraw]

I think it's just I I Things like that where it's like, an upbringing.

[Morgan Stewart]

We want the kids to have, like, an upbringing that they can recall on and be like, wow, that was really wonderful.

[Jordan McGraw]

Same place the same time of year, every year.

[Morgan Stewart]

I think it's cool also. So chic.

[Judith Kargbo]

Nice.

[Morgan Stewart]

No, I know. No, I know.

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. Growing up, mine was Kansas City for Thanksgiving.

[Morgan Stewart]

Yeah. Oh, my God. By the way, where the. Is Kansas City? I don't even know what the. If you, like, literally. No, I know.

[Judith Kargbo]

That's funny.

[Jordan McGraw]

Or Missouri. Yeah. Okay.

[Morgan Stewart]

Our second date was confused. Can you draw a map or can you locate anything on a map? I was like, no, this is, like, not my brain. My brain is quick, smart, on about a lot of shit. And then, like, the developmental part, I, like, don't know where it was.

[Jordan McGraw]

The veliment part.

[Morgan Stewart]

Okay. Thank you so much for being my first guest. Will you come back?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah. I had fun.

[Morgan Stewart]

You had fun, right?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah.

[Morgan Stewart]

I think that was great. It was great having you. Isn't Judith my best teammate? Yeah, Isn't it effortless?

[Jordan McGraw]

Yeah, I know. Very effortless.

[Morgan Stewart]

It feels like you and I but you and I just to chat. I really feel that the Morgan Stewart show is produced by SiriusXM and me, Morgan Stewart. Our senior producer is Judith Kargbo, our audio engineer is Brendan Burns, our videographer is Kim Cohen and our video editor is Shannon Joy Rogers. Our introduction Executive producers are Cody Fisher and Adam Sachs.

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