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Dan Kennedy
Welcome to the Moth podcast. I'm Dan Kennedy. We have an awesome show for you this week. Two Favorite Stories from Our Story Slam Series the first one is from our LA Slam series. It's told by Amira Choudhury. Some of you may know I'm a huge fan of Iggy Pop stories. I give this one my personal seal of approval. It's awesome. It was told in 2012 and the theme of the night was Rebound. Here's Amira Choudhury.
Amira Choudhury
When I was a teenager, in spite of being a straight A student, I had delinquent tastes in music. I loved 70s punk rock like the Ramones and the Sex Pistols, who, if you don't know, are the spiritual ancestors of bands like Nirvana and Green Day. Of all these bands, my absolute favorite were those godfathers of punk, Iggy Pop and the Stooges. Nobody epitomized sex, drugs and rock and roll the way they did. It was 1997 and Iggy's record company had just released their greatest hits compilation called Nude and Rude to coincide with his 50th birthday. Being a delinquent, I skipped class to listen to the CD at my mall's Blockbuster Music. But then, being a straight A student, I wrote a review of it for my local paper, the Sun Sentinel. When the article was published, I clipped it and sent it to Iggy's record company, hoping they would deliver as fan mail. And they did. A few months later I got this envelope in the no return address, New York postmark and a Georgia O'Keeffe flower postage stamp, which my artist friend Carlos later explained was supposed to represent lady parts. So I tear open the envelope and inside is this card with this absurd photo of Iggy on the COVID wearing a crown. And when I open it, I realize that it's a personal note from Iggy himself. Iggy wrote Amira hi, I got your letter. When you get this card, give me a call if you want to, please. 212. There's a machine, so leave a number. If I'm not there, I'll be in South Florida quite soon, which is where I lived at the time. It'd be nice to meet you, Iggy. I was nervous and flipping out because Iggy Pop was my idol, my teenage fantasy, and he wanted to talk to me on the phone. I was sure I was going to pass out, so I begged my boyfriend Eric to phone the number on a three way conference call for moral support. Eric dials the number and the answer machine picks up. The message on the machine isn't something normal and comforting like hi, I'm not here. Leave a number after the beep but rather, Iggy's sneering, this is that thing you throw peanuts at. Take a shot, sucker. So poor Eric is awkwardly leaving a message when Iggy, who screens his phone calls like Gwen Stefani, picks up. Now Eric is stammering and calling him Mr. Pop. And somehow Iggy smoothly talks him into hanging up. And then Iggy and I are alone together on the phone. I'd like to think that after reading my review, Iggy must have thought I was older and worldlier than I was, because we hit it off really well. He was in the process of getting divorced, was on the rebound, leaving New York, moving to Miami, and he wanted to meet me. He told me that he liked my exotic name. So although we never explicitly discussed it, I was pretty sure I'd get to live out my wildest rock star fantasies with Iggy Pop. Iggy and I spoke a couple of nights in a row, and in the meantime, I persuaded my friend Carlos to drive me to Miami. Everything was set, except for a time and a place. Let me stress that this was happening in 1997, when people still talked on the phone and didn't just text all the time. Also, I only had one line in my house and the kind of family where everyone picks up the phone in the other room and listens in or interrupts as they see fit. So when I called Iggy the next night to arrange a meeting, my mom, who had gotten word that I was spending a lot of time on the phone with an older man, picks up the other line and says, amira, time for Benny buys. It's a school night. The game was up. I awkwardly confessed that I was only a high school student, and Iggy politely explained that he couldn't meet me anymore or every male member of my bloodline would come after him with swords. I'm not lying. That was the last I ever heard from him. At the time, I was absolutely mortified that this had happened, because the coolest thing that had ever happened to me had just ended in the most uncool way imaginable. But after years of therapy, I've come to see that the real hero of this story is not me or Iggy Pop, but my mom, who, despite working two jobs, still had the attention span to save me from my inner teenage delinquent. And while I didn't get to live out my rock star rebound fantasies with Iggy Pop, she got to live out every mother's fantasy. My mom told Iggy Pop that it was a school night.
Dan Kennedy
Love that story. Another entry into the crowded category of Iggy Pop folklore. Amira chowri has a Ph.D. in mathematics from UC San Diego and is currently a research fellow at the Institute for Mathematics and its Applications in Minnesota. Minneapolis. Okay, and now our second story. A quick advisory in case you're listening at work or something like that. This next story has some awesome and totally appropriate profanity in it, so be sure to turn it up loud. It's from a Grand Slam here in New York City. And to set the scene for you, it was a very warm night in late July. We had all been at the Music hall of Williamsburg for, I would say, about two hours or so. It was a long show, it was a great show, but we were winding down. And then Aaron Barker, the final storyteller of the night, got up on stage, stepped up to the mic, and this happened.
Aaron Barker
All right, so when I was in junior high, my mom left my family, which I know sounds like a terrible thing, but actually, bear with me, it was awesome because it was just me, my dad, and my brother. And every single night for dinner, we had pizza. And also I now, after school, had a coveted hour alone in the house. Before my brother got home from elementary school, I would spend this hour almost exclusively playing air guitar to my Barenaked lady scene. And then my brother would get home and we'd walk our retriever, Samuel, around the neighborhood. And then we'd watch Pokemon, and then my dad would come home and we'd eat pizza again. And it was awesome. Every day was a perfect day until the night of my school play. After our performance, one of our illustrious cast members, Bethany, came up to me with her mother, and she said to me the four words that would live in Is your dad single? I think back to this moment a lot and I wonder how my life would be different if I'd said no. But I didn't. I said yes. And within a year, my dad was married to this woman and she and her two stupid kids were living in our house. She had, like I said, two kids. Bethany, the first one, was the same age as me, and she was the Jesus freak to end all Jesus freaks. I went to church every Sunday and I was in the youth group, but even I was like, all right, Bethany, easy on the Jesus. She was a member of an all female Christian barbershop quartet called Voices of Praise. And the four of them would wear matching puffy painted sweatshirts and scrunchies to school all the time. Her brother Robbie was a year older than us, and he was a genius. He was building a computer from scratch. In his room. And he was also, like, a musical prodigy and got straight A's and everything. It became clear almost immediately after they moved in that my perfect life was gone. There was no more air guitar after school because Robbie and Bethany were there watching me with their judging eyes. The only show that was ever on our television was Bethany's favorite show, which was Seventh Heaven, which is the worst show in the universe. And my dad gave our dog Samuel away because Bethany was allergic. And what made it even worse was that I didn't know what my role was in the family anymore. Because my brother had always been the adorable baby. And then I was the good, smart one. And now Bethany was the good one, and Robbie was the smart one. And there was no way I could compete with either of them. I remember hearing my dad talking on the phone to my grandparents. And he was talking about Bethany and her choir recital and how good she was, and. And then he was talking about Robbie the mathlete, and how smart he was. And then he said, oh, Erin, no, she's not really doing anything. The clincher came at Christmas. What I wanted for Christmas more than I'd ever wanted anything was a Fender Stratocaster. This very specific Strat that was hanging up at our local music store that was the exact same color blue as the one Ed Robertson from the Barenaked Ladies played. And my dad, he took me to the store and he let me try it out and everything. And I knew. I just knew from the way he was smiling that he was definitely gonna buy it for me. And on Christmas morning, it was there under the tree, but it was also attached to a card that said, to Robbie, you guys. It was in that moment that I realized that though the good role and the smart role were both taken in my family, there was one vacancy still available. And that was the role of the complete and total asshole. And I assumed it immediately. I started drinking and swearing and just kind of being a general dick. I once egged my own house with actual eggs from my own refrigerator. And then came report card day. Obviously, Robbie had straight A's on his report card. And all the teachers loved Bethany. But me, for the first time ever, I had some C's and D's on my report card. And I was just sitting there, just feeling so frustrated by the fact that I could just never compare to them. And I realized that what would really make me feel better, what would really be a good idea in this situation, would be to set my report card on fire in a kitchen pot. In a symbolic gesture of my rebellion against their standards. Unfortunately, I failed to predict exactly how much smoke your standard 9th grade report card produces. It is quite a lot. So before long, my dad and Becky were both knocking on the door demanding to know what was going on over the following months. It got around school, probably from Robbie, that I had not only set a fire, but that I had been attempting to burn my house down and kill my whole family. I never corrected anyone because I had to make a choice and I could either have people think I was a psychopath or have people think I was emo. And psychopath was clearly less embarrassing. So over the course of a year, I'd gone from being the good and smart one to being the psychopath, which I'll admit bothered me for a long time. But now I'm grown up and Robbie's not a rocket scientist and Bethany is not the second coming of Christ. She's actually just kind of an asshole who lives in the Midwest and posts photos on Facebook of herself in line on Chick Fil? A. So it's hard to be jealous of that. And I realized that maybe there never was any such thing as the good one or the smart one or the asshole and that I'm just me, which is some combination of all three. Thank you.
Dan Kennedy
Aaron Barker is a writer, editor and two time Moth Grand Slam champion living in New York City. She is senior producer of the science storytelling project called the Story Collider and she considers herself to be a Gryffindor.
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Episode Title: Ameera Chowdhury & Erin Barker: StorySLAM Favorites
Host: The Moth
Release Date: December 9, 2014
In this episode of The Moth Podcast, host Dan Kennedy presents two captivating stories from The Moth StorySLAM series. The episode features Ameera Chowdhury’s nostalgic recount of an unexpected interaction with punk rock legend Iggy Pop and Erin Barker’s heartfelt narrative about family dynamics and personal identity. Both stories delve into themes of adolescence, aspiration, and the complexities of human relationships, offering listeners deep insights and relatable experiences.
Introduction by Host (Dan Kennedy): Dan Kennedy sets the stage for Ameera Chowdhury’s story, highlighting her passion for Iggy Pop and her anticipation for his greatest hits compilation, Nude and Rude, released in 1997 to celebrate his 50th birthday.
Ameera Chowdhury’s Story:
Teenage Passion for Punk Rock: Ameera describes herself as a straight-A student with a rebellious taste in music, particularly 70s punk rock bands like The Ramones, The Sex Pistols, and her ultimate heroes, Iggy Pop and The Stooges.
"Nobody epitomized sex, drugs and rock and roll the way they did." [03:30]
Engaging with Iggy Pop: As a delinquent fan, Ameera skips classes to listen to Iggy Pop’s new compilation at the mall’s Blockbuster Music. She writes a review for the Sun Sentinel and sends it to Iggy’s record company, receiving a personal note from Iggy himself.
"When you get this card, give me a call if you want to, please." [05:10]
Nervous Anticipation: Ameera is ecstatic yet terrified when Iggy Pop reaches out, leading her to involve her boyfriend, Eric, for moral support during the phone call. The initial conversation is awkward, but they eventually bond over shared interests.
Plans to Meet Iggy Pop: Iggy expresses a desire to meet Ameera, setting the stage for what promises to be a dream come true. However, logistical challenges and family interruptions complicate their plans.
"I was sure I was going to pass out." [07:15]
Mother’s Intervention: Just as Ameera attempts to arrange a meeting, her mother intervenes, revealing Ameera's true age and halting the budding connection with Iggy Pop. Ameera reflects on the situation, initially feeling devastated but later appreciating her mother’s role in guiding her.
"The real hero of this story is not me or Iggy Pop, but my mom." [08:50]
Conclusion: Ameera’s story intertwines teenage dreams with familial responsibilities, highlighting the unexpected ways parents influence their children's lives. Her retrospective gratitude towards her mother underscores the profound impact of parental intervention.
Introduction by Host (Dan Kennedy): Dan Kennedy introduces Erin Barker’s story, warning listeners about the use of profanity and setting the scene of a warm July night in New York City during a StorySLAM event.
Erin Barker’s Story:
Family Dynamics Pre-Change: Erin reminisces about her life in junior high, emphasizing the harmony she experienced after her mother left. Life revolved around dinner with pizza, an hour of solitude for personal interests, and quality time with her brother and dog.
"Every single night for dinner, we had pizza." [10:50]
Introduction of New Family Members: After a school play, Erin’s father marries Bethany, a devout Christian, bringing Bethany and her son Robbie into their household. This shift disrupts the previously perfect family dynamic.
"There was no more air guitar after school because Robbie and Bethany were there watching me with their judging eyes." [13:20]
Struggling with Identity: The arrival of Bethany and Robbie leads Erin to feel overshadowed and insecure about her role in the family. Attempts to fit in clash with her established identity, resulting in rebellious behavior.
"There was one vacancy still available. And that was the role of the complete and total asshole." [16:05]
Acts of Rebellion: Erin describes her descent into acting out, including drinking, swearing, and vandalism, such as egging her own house. These actions stem from her inability to compete with her brother and new stepsister.
"I started drinking and swearing and just kind of being a general dick." [15:30]
Realization and Acceptance: Following the culmination of her rebellious phase, Erin gains perspective on her actions and the arbitrary nature of family roles. She reconciles with her identity, recognizing herself as a unique blend of traits rather than fitting into predefined categories.
"Maybe there never was any such thing as the good one or the smart one or the asshole and that I'm just me." [17:10]
Conclusion: Erin’s narrative explores the challenges of blending families and the quest for self-identity amidst external expectations. Her journey from rebellion to self-acceptance offers a poignant commentary on personal growth and the fluidity of identity.
Dan Kennedy wraps up the episode by highlighting the storytellers' backgrounds and encourages listeners to attend upcoming The Moth events. The episode concludes with acknowledgments to sponsors and production credits, underscoring The Moth’s commitment to sharing authentic, impactful stories.
"Thanks to all of you for listening and we hope you have a story worthy week." [19:39]
Notable Quotes:
Ameera Chowdhury:
Erin Barker:
This episode of The Moth masterfully captures the essence of personal storytelling, blending humor, vulnerability, and introspection to create memorable narratives that resonate with a wide audience.