The Musers The Podcast – Cowboys Season Preview (Episode 11)
Release Date: September 3, 2025
Hosts: George Dunham, Craig "Junior" Miller, Gordon Keith (in & out as "Fake Jerry")
Special Guest: Bob Sturm, Football Analyst (The Ticket, Dallas)
Topic: A wide-ranging, often hilarious yet incisive, preview of the Dallas Cowboys’ upcoming NFL season, with deep dives into Cowboys history, fan culture, organizational chaos, and why we all love football so much.
Main Theme:
This episode gathers The Musers and first-ever podcast guest Bob Sturm (“Football Bob”) for a frank, funny, and, at times, philosophical Cowboys season preview. They dissect the team's historic underachievement, explore the cultural and financial phenomenon that is the Cowboys, discuss the role of Jerry Jones, and ruminate about what makes football so meaningful in American life. (Note: The recent Micah Parsons trade is not discussed as it broke after recording.)
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Cowboys’ Perpetual Spotlight (02:42–06:54)
- Despite a 31-year championship drought, the Cowboys remain the NFL’s headline franchise, both on and off the field.
- "Isn't it interesting that a team that... in its first 36 years went to five Super Bowls, won five titles... zero for the last 31 years, and yet they still are at the top of the discussion board..." – George (04:42)
- Bob notes the franchise “can’t stop getting eyeballs” and remains endlessly profitable: “They can't lose their spot on the top of the podium of, I guess, relevance, even though we're not even quite sure why.” (06:31)
2. Historic Droughts, Statistical Oddities, and Spoiled Fans (06:54–09:55)
- Craig offers a stark stat: from 1969–96, 31 playoff wins; from 1997–2024, only 4.
- "That makes no sense." – Craig (07:33)
- Bob’s hopeful take: “They’re going to win it all at some point real soon. It just... can’t keep going like this forever.” (08:10)
- The sense of a “spoiled” Cowboys fan base and mounting fatalism: “I'm starting to think… I don't know if it's gonna happen while Jerry’s still alive.” – George (09:22)
3. The Jerry Jones Era: Profit, Power, and Underachievement (09:55–14:17)
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Analysis of Jerry’s influence—an Arkansas “family business” turned into the globe’s most valuable sports brand.
- “The Cowboys not only are on top of them all, but they're building a lead every year financially… it defies all common sense that they can continue to underperform as a football franchise.” – Bob (11:40)
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Stark lack of faith in 2025’s team: “No one in this room has hope for this year, do they?” – George (12:16)
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“The level of hope is low... the idea they could win a Super Bowl this year does seem absurdly far-fetched.” – Bob (12:32)
4. Fan Psyche and Diminishing Hope (13:17–14:17, 16:47–17:33)
- Discussion of historically “downtrodden” franchises surpassing Dallas longevity-wise.
- Bob points out the local mood: “It’s a barren wasteland of just belief now… Nobody actually believes it anymore.” (14:13)
- George, on generational optimism: “We were so spoiled… it just doesn’t happen like that.” (17:05)
5. Jerry’s Legacy & The Owner/GM Dilemma (18:14–19:29)
- Debated: does Dallas’ return to glory require an ownership change—will Jerry ever live to see another championship?
- Parallels to Bill Wirtz/Chicago Blackhawks: “Almost immediately after he died, [they] turned into… a dynasty.” – Bob (19:29)
6. Cowboys as Global Phenomenon / The Never-ending 'Soap Opera' (23:52–26:51)
- Unique national (and global) appeal: TV networks prioritize Dallas games regardless of record.
- “It’s not a sports story, it’s a ‘what’s going to happen next in this Cowboys soap opera’.” – Bob (25:08)
- Craig: “A testament to Jerry wanting to keep the soap opera… going 365 days a year.” (25:42)
- Business-school paradox: “Like having a restaurant that is horrible at making food… yet there is a line around the block… The worst they serve the food, the more customers show up.” – Bob (26:30)
7. The Chaos of the 90s and the Netflix ‘America’s Team’ Documentary (27:21–32:15)
- Re-examining the wild 1990s Cowboys: “...how desensitized you get to chaos if you live in chaos.” – Bob (28:29)
- Did the 90s Cowboys “underachieve”? Several agree: “One of the most accomplished… teams ever, and yet I feel like they underachieved.” – Bob (29:23)
- Discussion of Jerry v. Jimmy, the cost/benefit of unchecked egos, and the collapse of dynasty.
8. The Real Super Bowl: Profit or Trophies? (33:34–37:52)
- Is Jerry’s goal financial “Super Bowls” or Lombardis? Everyone agrees: he prioritizes influence and riches.
- Bob’s hypothetical – “Fall to 11th on Forbes but win a Super Bowl… Do you take that deal?” – “No would not take that day.” (34:19–34:25)
- Jerry, per George: “He was right about… his manifest destiny… was… to run the league…” (34:38)
9. Organizational Culture: Acumen vs. Chaos (39:19–40:47)
- Contrasting Cowboys’ chaos with Eagles’ strategic professionalism.
- “All of [Philadelphia’s] biggest contracts… are signed in March and April. Every single one of the Cowboys biggest contracts are signed… August and September, when I get around to it… [Jerry] chooses chaos.” – Bob (40:12)
10. Why We Love Football: Beauty, War, and Ritual (42:14–54:18)
- Sweeping, emotional discussion of football’s beauty and hold on American culture.
- George: “To me, it was just this beautiful game of chess and... war at the same time…” (42:14)
- Bob: “It does feel like a real live game of chess… I also love how it introduces nature… I love grass stains and mud and wind and pouring rain and snow…” (43:25)
- Craig, on the sport’s aesthetics: “I love the uniforms… decals, the jerseys… the biggest stadiums… sensory overload, and I loved it.” (47:30)
- NFL Films and childhood nostalgia, failed playing, and subsequent deeper appreciation for the game’s demands.
- The symbolism of teamwork and unsung heroes: “All 11 guys go into a successful play…” – Bob (50:11)
- The emotional power of “going to someone else’s place and taking a win out of there…” (51:32)
11. Football as Life’s Great Adventure (54:18–56:54)
- The hosts and Bob reminisce about broadcasting, covering, and loving the game even as “benchwarmers.”
- “If you put on the Dallas Cowboy uniform one time, you are such a rare gem in this universe.” – Bob (55:25)
- Salute to players who barely make NFL rosters—“Most of them will get real jobs when they’re done playing football.” – Bob (55:41)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On the Cowboys’ relevance, despite futility:
“They can't lose their spot on the top of the podium of, I guess, relevance, even though we're not even quite sure why.”
—Bob Sturm, 06:31 -
On fan disillusionment:
“It’s a barren wasteland of just belief now… Nobody actually believes it anymore.”
—Bob Sturm, 14:13 -
On Jerry Jones’ priorities:
“it's way easier to like digest this entire narrative if you simply come to the grips that Jerry Jones wins his Super Bowl every year. Yeah, like he does win every year because those profit sheets, those revenue... the Cowboys are at the top, not only in the NFL, but in worldwide sport. And that is his Super Bowl.”
—Bob Sturm, 35:26 -
Comedy High-point:
A running “Fake Jerry” impression by Gordon/Keith, riffing on Jerry’s age, business, and even anatomy:
“And I want a penis the size of Charles Haley. I tell you, that thing was impressive. In the shower, I mean, look like an elephant's trunk down there… Some things money can't buy, I suppose…”
—“Fake Jerry,” 38:38–38:51 -
On the nature of fandom and football’s hold:
“It’s almost a different version of Star Wars as a young boy... this is fantasy land for me.”
—Bob Sturm, 52:46
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 02:42–06:54: How the Cowboys became (and remain) America’s Team
- 07:33–09:55: Playoff wins drought, fan psychology, and existential pessimism
- 13:17–14:17: Fan suffering and loss of faith
- 23:52–26:51: Why the Cowboys remain prime-time and nation/world-obsessed
- 27:21–32:15: Revisiting the 1990s circus and ‘America’s Team’ docuseries
- 33:34–37:52: Is profit the real goal? Jerry’s “personal Super Bowls”
- 39:19–40:47: Organizational chaos and “choosing” noise over order
- 42:14–54:18: Love letters to football—the game’s grandeur, rituals, and unifying power
- 54:18–56:54: Remembering the struggle and glory of just making an NFL roster
Tone & Language
The episode mixes analytical depth with wit, warmth, and irreverence—a combination that defines The Musers. Fans will recognize the blend of biting honesty about the Cowboys’ never-ending drama and drought, comic relief (especially in Keith’s “Fake Jerry”), and genuine appreciation for football as both spectacle and metaphor.
Summary Takeaway
Whether you’re a diehard Cowboys fan, a football romantic, or just crave sharp, funny sports talk, this episode delivers a tour-de-force exploration of what makes Dallas so maddeningly captivating—and why, against all odds and in defiance of logic, we all keep tuning in for the next chapter.
