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Episode 605: Why 99% Of Ecommerce Content Fails (And What Actually Works) With Chris Schaefer
Date: September 3, 2025
Host: Steve Chou
Guest: Chris Schaefer

Episode Overview

In this insightful episode, Steve Chou sits down with content strategist and seasoned E-commerce practitioner Chris Schaefer. Their discussion revolves around why the vast majority of e-commerce content falls flat, and more importantly, what actually drives results in today’s rapidly evolving landscape—one dominated by AI, TikTok Shop, and changing social media habits. The conversation is refreshingly tactical, diving into actionable strategies for content creation, platform prioritization, and overcoming mental hurdles that keep e-commerce owners stuck.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chris’s Current Role & Unique Consulting Model

• Chris’s hands-on experience: Chris highlights his journey from outreach in 2013-14 to now acquiring most clients via word-of-mouth and delivering real results.
• Performance-Based Offers: Instead of monthly retainers, Chris initially charged commissions on additional sales generated. This “irresistible offer” later transitioned many clients to monthly contracts as trust grew.
  • Quote: "No one says no to that, because if you don’t do anything... I like it." (06:06, Chris)

2. Where to Focus Your Content Creation in 2025

• Written Content’s Diminishing Role: Due to Google’s volatility, Chris suggests written content is now commoditized—"kind of a dime a dozen"—and shouldn’t be your main focus.
• The Video Imperative:
  • YouTube Reigns Supreme: YouTube offers unmatched evergreen value, with videos generating traffic for years—a contrast to Instagram/TikTok lifespans.
    • Quote: "YouTube is the second largest search engine in the world... and it’s evergreen." (08:25, Chris)
  • Longer-Form Focus: Creating 10-12 minute videos allows for repurposing snippets across other platforms.
• Don’t Spread Yourself Too Thin: Most e-commerce teams lack bandwidth for all platforms—start with YouTube and repurpose.

3. Content Ideas: It’s About the Audience, Not the Product

• Start with the Niche, Not the Product:
  • Example: Black Rifle Coffee doesn’t post about brewing coffee—they create content for first responders and military.
    • Quote: "Who do we serve? Who is actually using my products and what do they want to see?" (13:12, Chris)
• Define Your Niche: A niche is “a group of people who identify as something or say they love something.” Your content should aim to serve this group, not just tout products.

4. How to Find Content That Resonates

• Test (“Research”) Accounts on YouTube:
  • Create a new YouTube account, only watch videos in your target space/niche, and let the algorithm surface top-performing topics and formats.
  • “YouTube’s algorithm is a proxy for your audience.” (15:47, Chris)
  • Copy proven concepts/titles and adapt them for your brand—don’t reinvent the wheel.

5. Lowering the Barrier to Video Production

• Production Quality Myths: High production is not required for success. iPhones and simple lapel mics suffice for compelling, topic-focused content.
  • Chris references Scott Voelker’s channel as using minimal gear and still producing effective videos: "Almost all of their videos are shot with an iPhone and the DJI Bluetooth mic." (25:02, Chris)
• Psychological Barriers: The biggest hurdle is simply recording and publishing that first video.
  • Chris advocates for “one-shot” or live video to overcome perfectionism: “Just keep the camera rolling, take a breath, and start where you screwed up.” (27:48, Chris)
  • “Done is better than perfect.” (44:24, Chris)

6. Faceless and Story-Driven Content Works

• Faceless Channels Are Valid:
  • Steve shares his personal example: creating a faceless YouTube channel for Bumblebee Linens by telling customer stories with AI imagery, not appearing on camera.
  • Chris: "Stories will always sell better than anything else... if you can find a way to keep people engaged, the content creation part becomes easy." (39:52, Chris)
• Storytelling Over How-To: The emotional connection matters more than product specs or technical demos.

7. Overcoming Content Creation Traps

• Trap #1: Only Creating Product Content: Focus on the people you serve, not just your catalog.
• Trap #2: Waiting to Launch: Publish even if you have a single video — “If you get it 80% to where you want, that’s good enough to publish.” (41:33, Chris)
• Trap #3: Obsessing Over Production Value/Batching: Don’t let perfectionism paralyze publishing velocity.

8. Podcasting for E-commerce

• Podcasts as a Low-Energy Option: For founders uncomfortable on camera, recorded conversations or interviews about the niche can serve as easy long-form content, later repurposed for YouTube.

9. How Broad Should Your Content Go?

• Casting a Wider Net—With Boundaries:
  • Stay broad within your niche’s interests, but not so generic you lose topical relevance.
    • "As wide as you can in the niche... but don’t go off-topic." (50:39, Chris)
  • Make content approachable to more than the “already converted”.

10. Titles, Keyword Research, and Discoverability

• SEO Is Overrated for Titles: Focus less on exact keywords, more on titles that intrigue and broaden appeal—most YouTube traffic is from suggested videos, not search.
  • Example: Instead of “Email Marketing for E-commerce,” try “The #1 ROI Marketing Strategy You Need in 2025.”
  • "Keyword research is overrated ... wrapping it into something broader and more enticing will almost always do better." (53:31, Steve)
• YouTube’s Recommendation Engine Rules:
  • "The vast majority of views come from that recommendations feed... not search." (54:13, Chris)

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Content Focus:
  • "You don’t have time to be everywhere. Start with YouTube—one good 10-12 minute video fuels your entire content flywheel." (11:13, Chris)
• On Overcoming Perfectionism:
  • "You will never be happy with the first video… You have to get over the fear of the constant tweaking and just publish." (41:33, Chris)
• On Storytelling:
  • "It’s not about you. It’s not about the niche. It’s about the story." (39:52, Chris)
• On Content That Endures:
  • "YouTube is just like the good old Google search days. You do something once, you get traffic forever." (10:22, Steve)
• On Relationship Building:
  • "When you consume content from someone... you build that relationship pretty quickly. All you have to do is say, hey, go check out our screwdriver, or our coffee." (22:08, Chris)
• On Faceless Channels:
  • "Can I do a faceless YouTube channel? The answer is: Yes. Like, you’re a prime example of that." (35:45, Chris)
• On Publishing Velocity:
  • "Don’t wait till you have 15 in the can—if you have one, get it up and you’ll start seeing results." (40:55, Chris)

Noteworthy Timestamps

• [05:01] – Chris explains his irresistible, performance-based offer for consulting clients.
• [08:25] – Why YouTube is the best starting point for evergreen e-commerce content.
• [13:12] – The shift from product-focused to audience-focused content strategy.
• [15:47] – Using YouTube’s algorithm as your market research tool.
• [25:02] – High production "not required"; iPhones and basic mics are enough.
• [27:48] – How to overcome perfectionism and anxiety about recording.
• [35:45] – Validating faceless and story-based channels.
• [41:33] – Psychological traps: launching, perfectionism, and why publishing trumps waiting.
• [53:31] – Keyword research myth-busting and the power of compelling titles.
• [54:13] – Source of most YouTube views: recommendation engine vs. search.

Conclusion & Action Steps

Big takeaway:
Content strategy for e-commerce in 2025 is less about perfect blogs or fancy production, more about deeply serving your niche through stories and video, especially on YouTube, and leveraging that content across other platforms. Start with the audience’s interests, get that first video out, and let real feedback—rather than endless self-editing—guide your improvement.

If you’re stuck:

• Identify your buyer’s “niche identity”
• Use a test YouTube account to research successful topics
• Map your first 3-5 video ideas around stories your audience cares about
• Record simply—iPhone is fine—bullet-point, not script, your outline
• Publish before it feels perfect: feedback is gold

And if you need support:
Find Chris at Seller Summit or email him at chris@brandcreators.com.

For more tactical advice and community, check out Seller Summit and the free mini course at mywifequitherjob.com.