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Episode 610: How To Use AI To Scale 7 & 8 Figure Ecommerce Brands With Ritu Java
Date: October 7, 2025
Guest: Ritu Java, CEO & Co-Founder of PPC Ninja
Host: Steve Chou

Overview

In this episode, Steve Chou interviews Ritu Java, an expert in AI-powered advertising and automation for ecommerce brands. The discussion focuses on practical ways AI is revolutionizing ecommerce operations, from listing optimization to creative content generation and process automation. Ritu shares actionable strategies, favorite tools, motivational stories, and real-life examples for both newcomers and experienced brand owners looking to scale efficiently in a rapidly changing digital landscape.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. State of Ecommerce: Challenges & Opportunities for Sellers

• Rising Fees and Tariffs: Brands are still grappling with increased costs, with most remaining conservative on ad spend and price adjustments. Only a small fraction of Ritu’s clients have changed pricing (04:09).
• Cautious Climate: “They’re just being very, very cautious. That’s the best I can say.” — Ritu (03:06)

2. Harnessing AI for Competitive Advantage

• Listing Optimization for Conversational Commerce:
  • Rufus Optimization: The shift from traditional SEO to "AI-ready" listings optimized for Amazon’s Rufus LLM. AI-focused content and imagery help listings respond more accurately to customer queries.
  • Comparison Images & FAQ Images: Proactively addressing potential negatives (from reviews or Rufus Q&As) with images or text in the gallery and A+ content boosts product appeal and machine readability. (06:09–13:49)
  • Quote: “SEO is slowly being replaced by this generative AI-enabled or AI-ready listing.” — Ritu (04:32)
  • Impact of Negative Reviews: Even a single negative review can dramatically influence Rufus’s responses, so reframing the narrative is key. (11:51)
• AI-Driven Creative Generation:
  • AI Video Assets: Quick, cost-effective video creation for testing and mass expansion without the need for expensive equipment or models (04:32).
  • Canva & AI Tool Stacks: Layer-based assembly, using AI tools like Magic Expand, Magic Grab, Magic Erase, and more to create assets efficiently (27:02–27:47).

3. Automating Operations—From Low Code to No Code

• Personalized Scripting:
  • Ritu explains how even as a non-programmer, she automates tasks using AI (e.g., Claude) to generate JavaScript, such as a Rufus Q&A scraper. (14:38–15:56)
  • Rule of Three: Any task performed more than three times is a candidate for automation (24:58).
  • Memorable Example: Automatic OTP forwarding from Gmail to Google Spaces for remote team logins, built in under an hour with Apps Script (20:44–24:58).
• No-Code/Low-Code Tools:
  • make.com (formerly Integromat): Used for automating workflows such as posting AI-generated content to social media based on new design uploads. Human review can be part of the process. (27:47–30:09)
  • Quote: “I have like this whole, you know, creative stack that, that we use internally…But at the end of the day, we compile everything in Canva, which is our assembly platform.” — Ritu (27:02)

4. Choosing the Right AI Tools

• Ritu’s Favorites:
  • ChatGPT: Best for brainstorming and planning, forgiving with typos, “never makes me feel stupid about my spellings.” (18:00)
  • Claude: Best for coding tasks, concise, gives focused options, but runs out of credits quickly (16:18–20:27).
  • Perplexity: Great for live web research.
  • Gemini: Integrated into Google Workspace, especially useful for video transcription, but less preferred for day-to-day creative work due to its UX quirks. (17:56)
  • OpenArt: Centralized access to various AI video generative models like Cling (Colors), VO3, and others, with a credit-based system ($14 for 4,000 credits/month = ~40 videos). (39:05)
• Insights on Tool Personalities:
  • Ritu humorously describes LLM personality quirks, including Gemini’s frustrating spellcheck and Claude’s “quiet, super smart” nature.
  • Quote: “Claude seems to be like this very…super smart, intelligent being that will only give you as much as you need and nothing more.” (18:00–20:27)

5. Managing AI Hallucinations & Training Your Assistant

• Custom Instructions & Memory:
  • Use custom instructions and shorthand keywords to keep AI writing styles consistent and reduce “hallucinations” (incorrect or off-brand content). (31:47–33:37)
  • “Remember this” command updates ChatGPT’s memory for persistent instructions.

6. AI Impact: Future of Work and Agencies

• AI Shifts—not Just Replacement:
  • AI will replace some jobs but also create new roles focused on oversight, creative prompting, and business direction. Agency value lies in context, QA, and business strategy. (43:07)
  • Quote: “Anyone who is in the creative space, I would say embrace AI and leverage it to your benefit rather than be afraid of it or try to oppose it…” — Ritu (44:37)

7. Adopting AI in Ecommerce: Getting Started

• Newsletter Recommendations:
  • Learn daily through trusted newsletters (Ritu’s is at ppc-ninja.com), as even expert agencies hire her to keep ahead.
  • Quote: “You don’t have to know everything about everything, but at least you need to know what’s possible. Once you know what’s possible, then you can hire people who can help you.” — Ritu (46:13)
• Next Steps:
  • Education: Subscribe to newsletters, attend events, consult experts.
  • Experiment: Try automating repetitive tasks (even simple ones).
  • Hire/Train: Seek “AI creatives” and talent who can multiply your team’s efficiency.
  • “If you’re doing something more than three times a day, chances are it can be automated away.” — Steve (48:03)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Price Sensitivity in Ecommerce:
  • “Literally less than 5% of our... agency clients have changed prices. Everybody else is holding on to their prices.” — Ritu (04:12)
• On the Power of AI for Creatives:
  • “You can now create so many video ass[ets] in the shortest period of time without needing any kind of fancy equipment or models or even the product. You can just superimpose layer... and just very quickly and rapidly test a lot of ideas.” — Ritu (04:32)
• On Using AI for Automation as a Non-Programmer:
  • “If you were to say, hey, write a, write a piece of code in JavaScript, I'd be like, I don't even know where to start. But... I can actually ask any LLM, especially Claude... and it'll do it.” — Ritu (14:50)
• On Human vs. AI Skills:
  • “You’re going to be using the people for the things that people are good at and automation for the things that automation is good at.” — Ritu (44:07)
• On Getting Started with Automation:
  • “If something is happening more than three times, consider automating it.” — Ritu (24:58)
  • “Almost anything is possible...you can automate practically any stupid thing.” — Steve (48:03)
• Newsletter Recommendation:
  • “Mine is ppc-ninja.com... all the new [AI] ones come out once every Tuesday. That’s one starting point.” — Ritu (46:13)
• On Working with PPC Ninja:
  • “We work with clients that have at least a million dollars in sales...The other criteria we have is the conversion rate. We generally look for 8% and above.” — Ritu (49:50)

Key Timestamps

• [03:06] Ecommerce sellers' conservative strategies amid rising fees
• [04:32] AI opportunities in listing and creative optimization; video creation
• [06:09–13:49] Deep dive into Rufus optimization best practices and AI listing preparation
• [14:38] Using Claude for code automation as a non-programmer
• [16:18–20:27] Ritu’s favorite AI tools and discussion of personalities
• [24:58] “Rule of three” for automating repetitive tasks
• [27:02–27:47] No-code and low-code workflow automations (Canva, Make.com)
• [33:08] How to use ChatGPT memory, custom instructions, and shorthand
• [39:05–41:30] AI video generation tools (OpenArt, Cling, VO3)
• [43:07–44:37] Will AI replace agencies and ecommerce jobs?
• [45:27–46:13] First steps for ecommerce brands to embrace AI
• [49:50] Ideal PPC Ninja client and agency fit criteria

Additional Resources & Calls to Action

• Ritu Java’s Newsletter: Sign up for step-by-step AI automations, tips, and free tools at www.ppc-ninja.com
• Seller Summit 2026 Tickets: sellersummit.com
• Host’s Free Ecommerce Mini-course: mywifequitterjob.com

This summary provides actionable insights and demystifies how ecommerce brands of any size can approach AI—not just to survive, but to leap ahead of competitors. Ritu’s practical examples and tool suggestions are a must-try for time-strapped founders and scaling teams alike.