280: #280 Thanksgiving

Summary

The Nateland Podcast – Episode 280: "Thanksgiving"

Date: November 26, 2025
Hosts: Nate Bargatze, Brian Bates, Aaron Weber, Dusty Slay

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Episode Overview

In this Thanksgiving-themed episode, the Nateland crew gathers to share stories, trivia, personal traditions, and plenty of laughs about America’s favorite food-focused holiday. The group—Nate Bargatze, Brian Bates, Aaron Weber, and Dusty Slay—mix heartfelt reflections and signature offbeat banter as they discuss Thanksgiving history, quirky family customs, food spreads, and “the real meaning” of Thanksgiving. The show is peppered with fan comments, unusual holiday facts, parade disasters, and memories that highlight the good (and sometimes awkward) of the holiday season.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Thanksgiving: America's Unifying Holiday

• History & Legitimacy:

  • Nate praises Thanksgiving as a “good American holiday,” noting it sometimes "takes flack for various reasons, but I don't think any of it's valid" [01:09].
  • The hosts discuss the possible biblical origins of Thanksgiving, referencing the Jewish holiday of Sukkot, and debate claims about the holiday's true first location (Plymouth vs. St. Augustine, FL).
  • Dusty summarizes the traditional story: 1621, Plymouth, 50 pilgrims, 90 Native Americans, a three-day festival after a successful corn harvest [48:07].

• Debate Over the Menu:

  • The first Thanksgiving likely featured venison, duck, goose, oysters, lobster, eel, and fish—not turkey.
  • Nate questions the cleanliness and accuracy of these menu items, speculating that pilgrims followed more biblical dietary rules [51:42].

Notable Quote

“I think the Thanksgiving is a good holiday. Some people believe it was... a biblical holiday of Sukkot. They think that’s what Thanksgiving turned out to be.” – Nate Bargatze [01:09]

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Who Made Thanksgiving a National Holiday?

• Sarah Hale—The Mother of Thanksgiving:
  • Wrote “Mary Had a Little Lamb.”
  • Campaigned for 17 years (letters to presidents) to make Thanksgiving a national holiday.
  • Abraham Lincoln made it official in 1863 to unify the country during the Civil War [55:12].
  • The holiday’s timing (“fourth Thursday in November”) was set by FDR for Christmas shopping convenience during the Great Depression [59:53].

Notable Quote

“So she started writing a letter to the President. Every year for 17 years... Finally, Abraham Lincoln said, okay, this lady’s not going to leave us alone, so let’s just do it.” – Dusty Slay [55:12]

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Family Traditions and Awkward Dynamics

• Plating Food Traditions:

  • Aaron's family: Dad sits at the end of the table and plates everyone’s food—something Aaron learned isn’t universal [76:49].
  • Bates & Nate: Less structured; often chaotic, lots of people split between rooms and outdoors, but togetherness is what counts.

• Hosting and Juggling Multiple Families:

  • The group empathizes about the complexity of Thanksgiving as families grow, split, and merge—especially with divorced parents or in-laws [88:38–90:11].

Notable Quote

“At my house, whoever the man of the house is sits at the end of the table, and all the food’s in front of him, and he plates everyone’s food... That’s just the way we did it.” – Aaron Weber [76:49]

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Food, Calories, and The Spread

• Shocking Stats & Favorites:

  • Average American consumes 4,500 calories on Thanksgiving [60:41].
  • The crew’s favorite Thanksgiving dishes: turkey, ham, dressing, casseroles, pies (“the sides steal the show!” – Aaron [61:40]).
  • Leftovers: Resoundingly declared "the best meals" are the days following Thanksgiving [61:10].

• Changing Times:

  • With older relatives passing and younger generations less engaged, many hosts note the food (and traditions) sometimes aren’t what they used to be [62:14].

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Lighthearted Listener Comments & Banter

• The hosts react to fan suggestions for a "Nateland dating app" [02:33], dissect Salvador Dalí’s "draw on the back of the check" trick [04:23], and amuse over commercial oddities—like pharmaceutical ads for schizophrenia [29:02].

Notable Quotes

“Would you guys consider that a jerk move or genius?... If he’s like, I do it and cash it or don’t, that’s their decision.” – Nate Bargatze on Dalí's checks [05:01]

“If you don’t let me do it, I’m gonna go in the alley.” – Nate (on "Ally’s Law" for bathroom access) [26:53]

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Quirky Thanksgiving Facts and Parade Mishaps

• Thanksgiving Football:
  • Lions have played since 1934; Cowboys since 1966; third game added only in 2006 [63:27].
• Blackout Wednesday:
  • Night before Thanksgiving = busiest for bars; “Drinks-Giving” or “Brown Friday” for plumbers [64:06].
• Parade Antics:
  • 50 million watch the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade on TV; first big balloon was Felix the Cat (before that—zoo animals!) [66:24].
  • Wild stories of parade balloons breaking free, police “stabbing” Pink Panther, and Barney and Cat in the Hat being deflated by New York windstorms [72:00].

Notable Quote

“Old timey stuff was very much just like, ‘we get it.’ Everybody’s like, that’s amazing. And there was never, ‘what are you going to do with it?’ And just no one cared.” – Brian Bates, on letting parade balloons go [69:01]

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Thanksgiving Traditions: The Good, The Bad, The Hilarious

• Expressing Gratitude:

  • Stat: 60% of Americans would rather do anything other than focus on gratitude at Thanksgiving [79:27].
  • Most of the hosts admit their gatherings skip the “go around and say what you’re thankful for” formalities [79:41]. Spontaneous, chaotic togetherness is the tradition that matters most.

• McDonald’s Check-in:

  • The group humorously checks in on each other's fast food habits—unapologetically loyal to McDonald's [84:50].

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “Reading a book in public makes you feel better than everyone real fast.” – Nate Bargatze [14:42]
• “I think the time... it’s weird to know that someone’s just right outside that door.” – Brian Bates (bathroom timer proposal) [24:00]
• “The fact that you got to live with your family for 80, 90 years is insane... Like, we were, you know, 20 tops.” – Brian Bates [50:44]
• “Sarah Hale... she started writing a letter to the President. Every year for 17 years... Finally, Abraham Lincoln said, okay, this lady’s not going to leave us alone, so let’s just do it.” – Dusty Slay [55:12]
• “About 50 million Americans tune into Thanksgiving Day parade each year... Before that, they were just using zoo animals.” – Dusty Slay [66:24]
• “If your town gets it, you win money... There’s money in Macy’s gift card.” – Nate Bargatze (on letting parade balloons go) [69:57]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Intro/Thanksgiving Warm-up: [00:42–01:34]
• Listener Comments & Salvador Dalí Antics: [02:16–08:47]
• Family Traditions & “Dead Internet” Theory: [12:07–14:50]
• Thanksgiving History & Origins: [48:06–56:02]
• Mary Had a Little Lamb—Sarah Hale: [54:04–55:07]
• Calories & Food Discussed: [60:41–62:14]
• Football & Blackout Wednesday: [63:04–64:34]
• Parade Stories & Wild Facts: [66:24–74:51]
• Traditions, Family Chaos, and Pass-downs: [76:19–83:51]

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Tone & Style

The episode is relaxed, irreverent, and conversational, brimming with observational humor, good-natured teasing, and moments of earnest reflection among friends.

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Closing Thoughts

The Nateland crew wraps with thank-yous, tour dates, and a genuine appreciation for their listeners. Sweet, silly, and as American as pie, this episode reflects on not just the quirks and history of Thanksgiving, but also on what really matters: food, family, and finding things to be grateful for—even if, as Nate jests, it’s just that Vanderbilt football plays in an “unrigged league.” [93:59]

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Happy Thanksgiving from the Nateland crew!

Transcript

[Nate Borghetzi]

Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first. There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[Brian Bates]

Hello, folks. And hey, Bear. Welcome to the Nateland Podcast. Nate Borghetzi. Brian Bates. Aaron Weber. All right, Dusty Slayer. Happy Thanksgiving.

[Aaron Weber]

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Brian Bates]

It's tomorrow.

[Aaron Weber]

This might be my favorite holiday and.

[Brian Bates]

Well.

[Dusty Slayer]

In the given category.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Might be.

[Dusty Slayer]

One of the few that Dusty believes in.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, I think it's a good one. I think it's a good. I think it's a good American holiday. And it's taken a lot of flack for various reasons, but I don't think any of it's valid. I think the Thanksgiving is a good holiday. Some people believe that it was when, you know, back in that time, they were celebrating a biblical holiday of Sukkot. They think that that's what Thanksgiving turned out to be. Yeah, I think it's a great holiday.

[Dusty Slayer]

We'll get into it today.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, we're getting the history and everything. Abe Lincoln and all that.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I mean, if our food wasn't poisoned now, it would be a much better.

[Aaron Weber]

Save it. Save it.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. We had. We pre recorded this one. So it's.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, we're like a month ago. We're time travelers today.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

So we're all caught up. Aaron's out of jail. He's still. No comment. Right?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, yeah, he took the prater silly money and ran.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

His lawyer told him no comment.

[Brian Bates]

We all noticed his fur jacket right after the day. After the Prater silly show.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Wow.

[Dusty Slayer]

Take it off.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Take it off.

[Brian Bates]

People even really buy fur anymore. All right, so we're going to start. It actually started with you guys. Comments. Carolee Crow. I mean, she likes Thanksgiving.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

There should be a Nateland folks only dating app. I'm 26 years old and single, and I'm tired of having to explain the Nateland lore to men who have never heard of y'.

[Nate Borghetzi]

All.

[Brian Bates]

If I meet a nice guy and he loves the pod, at least I know he's got good taste and a sense of humor. That's true.

[Aaron Weber]

Oh, Brian, you're the resident dating app expert on the podcast. I mean, do you think. You think this has legs?

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah. I mean, it could be a branch of Nateland entertainment.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Maybe just start putting yourself out there in the YouTube comments and in the Facebook group know. Let people. I guess that's what you're doing here.

[Brian Bates]

She's doing. She's doing car. I mean, look, if you're 26 years old.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. Castle Wide net.

[Brian Bates]

There you go. If you listen to this car. Lee. Cara Lee Crow.

[Aaron Weber]

Tough to lose that last name, though. Such a great name.

[Brian Bates]

It is a great name.

[Aaron Weber]

I guess you could just keep it. That's what everybody's doing these days.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, well, like stage. Yeah. You know, middle name. Well, it's like, it kind of like. Is your middle name now.

[Aaron Weber]

Caroly Crow Smith.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

What would a cool last name be to go with Crow?

[Brian Bates]

Caroly Crow. Bar.

[Aaron Weber]

Bar.

[Brian Bates]

Crowbar.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Crowbar, yeah.

[Brian Bates]

No, wait. Caroly Crow. It's a real medicine show.

[Dusty Slayer]

Who you say?

[Nate Borghetzi]

I worked with a guy at Outback. His last name was Murder. M E R. D E R. But pronounced murder.

[Brian Bates]

Well, murder would be good.

[Nate Borghetzi]

And a group of crows is called a murder.

[Brian Bates]

Crow. Murder. Carolee Crow. Murder. So, yeah, look for Kara. Look for him. Christian Moscoso. Salvador Dali. I think I said Dolly, right?

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

And I bet you thought I was going to say daily.

[Dusty Slayer]

Correct.

[Brian Bates]

Salvador Dali used to invite friends to a restaurant and they would party hard. When it was time to pay, he would write a check, but he would draw something on the back so the art would be worth more than cashing the check. So, so he basically figured out a loophole to party for free. Would you guys, would you guys consider that a jerk move or genius? I think if he. I once heard the story about Bill Cosby too, like, that he would autograph the check because he knew they wouldn't cast it because they'd rather just keep the autograph.

[Aaron Weber]

Whoa.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I just cashed the chat with both of them.

[Brian Bates]

Well, you got to think that was a long time ago. And autographs were, I mean, there's no pictures, but ever I could see. I, I, I, I would think it's a, the only thing reason I don't think it's a jerk move because it's like if he's like, I do it and cash it or don't, I'm just, you know, it's like that's their decision. It's your decision. So it's like, I don't think it's, I understand. You would be like, man, just pay them or maybe draw and then just pay them cash. But, you know, it's like, it would be.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Was the drawing really worth that much, though? I mean, did we, like, so you.

[Brian Bates]

Would want to be tipping them at least? Like, Yeah, I think at least.

[Nate Borghetzi]

You know, like, I, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I had, you know, I had a couple of those paintings hanging on my wall posters when I was, you know, Just out of high school, of course. But. But was he, like, wealthy while he was alive from art?

[Aaron Weber]

I think he was one of the.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Few.

[Aaron Weber]

Painters like that who was well known.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Okay.

[Aaron Weber]

Before he died.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

So he had. He had a little bit of sway.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Okay.

[Brian Bates]

So, I mean, I guess it could be like, yeah, hang on to this and then see. But, I mean, I think we would hear about it if it resurfaced.

[Nate Borghetzi]

You'd think it'd pay out Framed checks somewhere.

[Brian Bates]

And it seems like no one's has shown a frame check.

[Nate Borghetzi]

No, I've never seen a flip.

[Brian Bates]

I think people probably. I mean, even if it's Salvador Dolly.

[Aaron Weber]

Oh, a couple here. Oh, well, I got a couple here.

[Dusty Slayer]

It's not a drawing. It's just everybody's site.

[Aaron Weber]

He's got. There's a little bit of a doodle. Here's a melted clock and a crown and two.

[Brian Bates]

But is that a check?

[Aaron Weber]

That frame looks like it's worth ten grand.

[Brian Bates]

Is the. The check looks weird?

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. That's a different time.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. I don't know if it's. I would be willing to. I bet they cashed it, because then there's also, like, at the time, what. When was this? How. When. What year was this?

[Aaron Weber]

When did Salvador Dali live?

[Dusty Slayer]

That check said 1961.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

He.

[Aaron Weber]

He died in 89.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. So, like, you know, so if he's having big parties and it's like, 1960s, I think he's got to go to the right place. I don't think he could do it everywhere.

[Aaron Weber]

I don't think Applebee's or something.

[Brian Bates]

He can't go to Fridays. And they're like, oh, Salvador, he couldn't have come to. If I would have waited on him at Applebee's, I would have been like, oh, that guy.

[Aaron Weber]

That guy showed up.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Western sizzling.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

I'm not gonna be like, Western sizzling.

[Nate Borghetzi]

You'd keep the check because you'd go, this actually might be worth more than his dab.

[Brian Bates]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Because he really couldn't.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

I wouldn't even know that even if he told me that at Applebee's, I'm Salvador Dally. What?

[Aaron Weber]

He goes, I did the melted clock pictures. You've never seen them.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. You do dogs playing poker. Yeah. Yeah. Even if you told me you did that, I would be like, you guys.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Weren'T into these posters when you were, like, just out of high school, college age.

[Aaron Weber]

I went to his museum.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. Every. I feel like everybody I knew had these posters hanging on their wall. There was A girl working at the Kicking Chicken in Charleston. She had the. The stretched out elephant tattooed on her forearm.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, I almost would need to see more posters to know it's like this.

[Aaron Weber]

It's all surrealist cra. It looks like a bad acid trip kind of stuff. Everything's melted.

[Nate Borghetzi]

And I think about that girl a lot actually. Cuz she was very young and she had the Salvador dolly tattooed on her arm. And I was like. I was really into him when I was like 21, but I don't have any of his stuff at my house now.

[Brian Bates]

Like that elephant.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, but she still has the tattoo.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, maybe don't show that.

[Brian Bates]

You think she still does right now?

[Nate Borghetzi]

I mean, unless she had it covered up.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, they can get them covered up now. Now they can do all kinds of stuff. Yeah. Daniel Johnson. Will Nate donate a thousand dollars to the Boys and Girls Club for every second Dusty goes over an hour at his shows?

[Dusty Slayer]

Well, that would bankrupt you.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I mean that every second. I mean, geez.

[Brian Bates]

But.

[Dusty Slayer]

Oh, I didn't even notice it said second.

[Nate Borghetzi]

But yeah, I mean, I support it. I mean. Yeah, I mean if you.

[Brian Bates]

If I want to.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, if you want to do it.

[Aaron Weber]

That's over two. That's over $2 million.

[Brian Bates]

If he does what?

[Aaron Weber]

If he does 34 minutes over, which is.

[Dusty Slayer]

What's your record?

[Brian Bates]

How'd you do that?

[Nate Borghetzi]

About 32 minutes is what I've done. It's an hour and 32 minutes.

[Aaron Weber]

Okay, so that's 1.9 million.

[Brian Bates]

How do you know that? Is that by saying that? What did you just do?

[Aaron Weber]

So I did 32 times 60. And that's how many? That's how many sec. Yeah, that little *. So 32. So it's 1,920 seconds. And then multiply that by a thousand, add three zeros to it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Oh, I think it would be more than that somehow. I mean.

[Dusty Slayer]

Can'T trust math.

[Brian Bates]

I would stop the show.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. Yeah, maybe you're right. But yeah, it would be. Yeah, it'd be a long show.

[Brian Bates]

Lauren Marksbury. My husband and I used to use Dave Ramsey's system of keeping cash in an envelope for different budget categories. He brought his fun money envelope to the movie theater and watched in horror as all of the cash in it blew away across the parking lot in a huge gust of wind. Needless to say, we no longer use that method.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I don't think you can blame that method though.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, I think you need.

[Nate Borghetzi]

What are you doing? Fanning it out in the parking lot.

[Aaron Weber]

Lick the envelope.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Wait till you get inside.

[Brian Bates]

Don't have it in your pocket.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Don't bring Dave Ramsey into this. Just hang on to your money out there. I just want to state for the record, though, back to Daniel Johnson, just real quick, but what if it was consistently doing an hour and a half?

[Brian Bates]

Oh, yeah. What if it was consistently do an hour and a half? All right. What if it was fun? The money did have fun. Because if you're money, the money had.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Somebody got it and somebody had fun.

[Dusty Slayer]

With it, but the money had fun.

[Aaron Weber]

The money itself.

[Brian Bates]

The cash itself had a lot of fun.

[Dusty Slayer]

Maybe.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. But you got. You guys got to hang on to it for your last name being Marks, you really missed it on this.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, well, that's where the berry comes in.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Weinberg 85. On the final episode of this podcast, it will be revealed that breakfast was the hashtag Dump Dusty guy this whole time.

[Dusty Slayer]

Well, that is true.

[Nate Borghetzi]

That's the only way that it would be fun for me.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah. There's no way I'm getting up that early in the morning.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Do that every week.

[Nate Borghetzi]

This guy's on it.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah, he's like the first one of the first ones every week.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. I blocked him from all my social media. He started doing it on all my posts. And I go, well, all right, you're gone.

[Aaron Weber]

Other people's podcasts that you're on still does that.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I can't.

[Aaron Weber]

I can't stop.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. You can ask, but have you ever.

[Aaron Weber]

Heard of the dead Internet theory?

[Nate Borghetzi]

I think so. Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. That just. Most of the activity, most of the content on the Internet is either fake or bots or basically there's this illusion that's happening, but it's. The Internet's dead, and it's all just. I think there's the what if. The whole Nateland comment, it's all fake and it's all dead, and there's. It's just you.

[Dusty Slayer]

Oh, just me posting up.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Just you.

[Dusty Slayer]

You.

[Aaron Weber]

You've.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah, that's a lot of posts.

[Brian Bates]

I've never heard of the dead Internet. Like, they just think.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Well, I've heard that, like, if you go to Google and you go to search something, it used to say, like, oh, a million results for this. But then you could scroll as far as you could go and only get to, say, a thousand results. You know, you never would get to. There never was that many results.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. It's a theory that suggests the Internet has become artificial, filled with bots, and automatically generated content that creates the illusion of human engagement and conversation.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, I would, I, I, I definitely would believe in that. And especially now with AI and it being fake and like, you're seeing all this stuff, you're just, all it's going to do is make you not eat less and less. I think about that even, like, if I'm looking at Instagram or I'm looking at Twitter, you something and you're like, it's really pointless. It's, it's, as you go through it, you're like, I'm not even devouring any really news. Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

I'm not even interested.

[Brian Bates]

People like commenting on, like, where you go, like, I don't even. This is not even helpful for me as a. For no one.

[Aaron Weber]

For no one.

[Brian Bates]

It's. Yeah, it really is. And even looking at stuff online is like, what do you. That's even hard because you're going, what am I looking up? How do I. Like, if you want to go find something and you know, man, I know we look it up for like, quick. I get. Not saying you wouldn't get rid of it, but it's like, yeah, you know, the smart people are going to be the ones that are still reading books. That's what I think. The ones that have sat down and really, I don't, I think it. They will be because they're going to be able to sit and really go, well, this is what it said from this. Because you're going to. If you just look, if you just do all the evidence online, I don't know if you're gonna be able to tell who, what motivation behind, like, where was that story? It's like telephone. So by the time it, you know, telephone can spread very fast when like one thing comes out and then it can spread.

[Nate Borghetzi]

You know, I can tell you reading a book in public makes you feel better than everyone real fast.

[Aaron Weber]

Depends on the book. But yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I mean, anytime I'm reading in public, which is not a lot, I go, man, these people are stupid.

[Aaron Weber]

You're not even reading. You're just looking around like, look at all these idiots on their phone.

[Dusty Slayer]

Look how smart I am.

[Brian Bates]

Well, that's where like, you have a book too, like on your phone. Like, you know, or a Kindle.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

And it's just I saw some video.

[Aaron Weber]

And some something where they were like, that's the most attractive thing a man can do now is just like, have a book on them.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

To women. They're like, oh, my God, I got reads.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

So just keep one in your.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Seems like that was written by a man that reads in public.

[Dusty Slayer]

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[Aaron Weber]

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[Dusty Slayer]

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[Brian Bates]

Blanton I've heard Nate mention Circus Ole. Circus do Soli Circuit. No, Circus de Soli, but is that it?

[Aaron Weber]

Circus delay.

[Brian Bates]

Circus delay.

[Nate Borghetzi]

It's like it hasn't quite started yet.

[Aaron Weber]

Keep reading the comment.

[Brian Bates]

I've heard Nate mention Circus Delay on at least two episodes now, and it sounds like he's saying Circus Olay. That's exactly what I was saying. Instead, I feel like I'm being punked at this point or my ears felling me. Circus Ole. Yeah, I've said that to everybody. What is it?

[Aaron Weber]

Circa du Circle. Cirque du Soleil. I mean, you kind of say it.

[Brian Bates]

Cirque du Soleil.

[Aaron Weber]

Yes.

[Brian Bates]

Cirque du Soleil. Yeah. I would say Circus Ole. I've all. I've only said Circus Soleil.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Like. Yeah. Cirque du Sole. Cirque du Soleil.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. What's it mean?

[Aaron Weber]

It's like what are the. It's those shows like.

[Nate Borghetzi]

No, I mean what's the. But what's the word?

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah. Circus of the Sun.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. All right.

[Nate Borghetzi]

So Circus of the Sun.

[Dusty Slayer]

That's what it said.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

What do you think it really means?

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Rachel, When I was 10, I attended a sleepover and we were all sleeping. We were all in our sleeping bags in the basement at 11:30 when the group decided to watch Saturday Night Live. I announced that I wasn't allowed to watch it and went upstairs to sit in their living room by myself. At 1am I went back downstairs and rejoined the party. I had no idea how weird my behavior was until years later. Rachel, it was not weird. I did it to you.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. Rachel, I think this is. You probably were raised by healthy parents. This is very good. I think you should pass this down to your kids. You know, if Nate's on, Nate cleans it up. Nate cleans it up. And it's good. But. Yeah. Be proud of yourself.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

You saved yourself some filth out here. You know, unless Nate's on it, he cleans it up.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Look, Rachel, I did it too, with. So. Yeah. You know. Yeah. We all do stuff.

[Dusty Slayer]

Friday kid.

[Brian Bates]

Karate Kid.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I mean, the fact that you could even buy your product. An hour and a half. I don't even know what you did, but the fact that you could do that shows that you're.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

You know, you're pretty strong.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

I had a PE teacher growing up that if you got in trouble, she would make you.

[Brian Bates]

He drugged that out.

[Aaron Weber]

Did I? PE teacher?

[Brian Bates]

Pe. I don't know.

[Aaron Weber]

I had a fiscal education professor growing up.

[Brian Bates]

Phys Ed.

[Aaron Weber]

She would make you sit in the corner and literally twiddle your thumbs.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Wow.

[Aaron Weber]

For the whole hour if you got in trouble.

[Nate Borghetzi]

That's why your grip strength so good.

[Aaron Weber]

I'm just saying it felt like a year.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Another teacher. To make you watch the clock couldn't take your. Wow. To really watch.

[Brian Bates]

I think I could watch the clock and, I mean, I could just.

[Aaron Weber]

You would find a way to enjoy it.

[Brian Bates]

Well, I could just get in my own thoughts and just. And just like, be gone.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

How fast would you have to do the thumbs? Could you just do it like that? Would you make it like that?

[Aaron Weber]

No, it's. I mean, it's. It's not tiring, but it is.

[Dusty Slayer]

I'm getting tired.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. It's like.

[Dusty Slayer]

It's.

[Aaron Weber]

It's tough to do after a while. You ever come wrestling yourself? No, no, no. I had friends growing up.

[Dusty Slayer]

I'm talking about when you're in the corner.

[Aaron Weber]

I thought you meant just in general.

[Brian Bates]

I mean, I probably would have done that. Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Just 1, 2, 3, 4. I declare thumb. Or is that what you guys did?

[Aaron Weber]

Oh, big time. Yeah. Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

What if one had to win and then the one that cut off immediately let your left hand.

[Aaron Weber]

I think My right thumb's got the.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. So you're just. No question. Yeah, yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

There are guys that could play. I would try to play chess against myself sometimes. You know, like, you make a move, then you walk to the other side of the board, and you make a move, and it's hard to be truly objective.

[Brian Bates]

How many times do you walk to where you get to where you just start flipping the board?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Bates]

It's like, how long.

[Aaron Weber]

Look, I metaphorically walk to the other side.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah. You do one walk, and then you.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Hey, I don't got to do that.

[Brian Bates]

You go, there's no real reason for that.

[Aaron Weber]

The point of what I was like, it's hard to really remove yourself from one side objective. You end up just, like, almost rooting for one side.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, that's probably what the great chess players can do, like, because it's.

[Aaron Weber]

You're making them completely remove themselves and just, like, play each move objectively.

[Brian Bates]

Well, it's poking holes in yourself.

[Aaron Weber]

Right, right.

[Dusty Slayer]

Didn't you say your dad could beat, like, a whole class by himself?

[Aaron Weber]

My dad taught a chess class in high school, and he would. Every kid out of. He would play the whole class simultaneously and just like, make a move. Make a move and walk through. Just beat everybody.

[Dusty Slayer]

Wow.

[Aaron Weber]

He was really good.

[Brian Bates]

Bro. On the door of each bathroom stall, they should have a timer on the outside. When a person enters, the timer starts. Let everyone knowing. Letting everyone know how long it's been occupied by that person. It might be a motivator, motor motivator to get out quicker.

[Aaron Weber]

I don't mean I play Devil's App.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, I'm not in on that either.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. I'm not trying to shame people with.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I just like the flip to let them know, hey, we are waiting. But if you're.

[Brian Bates]

Because, like, someone that's in there. Sorry.

[Nate Borghetzi]

If you're taking care of business and you're like, you know, in some trouble, you got. May take time.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. I just picture. And I just picture you going in one, and you go, I mean, guys, come on. You're like. You have to just go. You know, it's like, all right, so this guy's answer should be. So I guess we all should have good diets.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Because I don't have a choice.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Or I see you. You have to just stand up and you see the door crack open and then close again to reset. Just keep starting over.

[Dusty Slayer]

Just.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Hand comes out.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Just.

[Brian Bates]

It goes. There's a lot of that happening once you Realize no one's in the bathroom. You just go. You stand up and reset it and sit back down. And then they. And they hear, you know, your music that you're playing.

[Dusty Slayer]

What was your proposal for downtown bathrooms?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Well, oh, I just think that, you know, there could be a switch on there. Like, you walk in, if all the stalls are full, you could know if you're waiting in line, flip the switch, letting people on the outside know, hey, there are people waiting. It's not to say, hurry up, let.

[Aaron Weber]

People on the inside know, but just.

[Nate Borghetzi]

So on the inside they know. They know. Well, there are people waiting. So don't be, you know, checking your emails.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, but. I know, but are. But if. Are you going to flip it off and then feel like that's. That's the same thing as this. Like you would feel like in a hurry.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I think the time.

[Brian Bates]

It's weird to know that someone's just right outside that door.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Well, but it's better for the people on the outside. They'll be like, I gotta get in there. And you're in there playing, you know.

[Brian Bates]

I know, but I don't see how you're against this. And then for.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Well, the timer on the outside is a indicator to everyone on the outside how long you've been in there. So that could be embarrassing.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like you let. You know too, after about 12 minutes, you go, you might want to shut that one down for the day.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, that guy's been in there 48 minutes.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Bates]

I, I think, I always think because people still knock. I mean, it's like, look, if it's locked, you don't have to knock. Those people drive me.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Insane. The door's locked and someone didn't knock.

[Nate Borghetzi]

But the knock, I think, is to just an indicator go, hey, there are people out here.

[Aaron Weber]

Serves a dual purpose.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Bates]

I.

[Aaron Weber]

Women don't even know. Do you know that women don't knock? They just look under.

[Brian Bates]

Really?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Is that true?

[Brian Bates]

Oh, yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

What do you mean? Look?

[Brian Bates]

I would like just kind of see.

[Aaron Weber]

If there's look under to see feet. But the knocking's not the default.

[Brian Bates]

I would do that too. But I mean, the.

[Aaron Weber]

Is that true?

[Dusty Slayer]

That is true. Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

But you don't stick your whole face under there. Yeah. Just so.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

You get down on the floor.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, I think I. Yeah, I think I'd have done that before.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I like to go through and push all the doors.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Oh, dang. All of these are full.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, that's. Yeah. Hydra. Yeah. I'd rather jump off a building. Janet Robinson. There's a law called Ali's Law that says if a person is denied access to a bathroom in public, if the person says, I can't hold it, they have to let them use it, even if it's for employees only. Oh.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Oh, I didn't know that. That's good to know. I have done that, though, where you go into a place and you go. They go, oh, we don't have a bathroom. And I go, oh, what do you guys do? You know, like, the employee says, we don't have a bath. Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

What do you do when you have to use the bath?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

What. But is a place or is it their job to do it? Oh, people with certain medical conditions. Oh, so now just every. So now everybody just knows Ally has ibd.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. Inflammatory bowel disease.

[Brian Bates]

You think, I don't know if I'd.

[Aaron Weber]

Want this named after me?

[Brian Bates]

You think they. You think when they came out with this, the Ali's like, hey, I don't. I wasn't even upset about it. And then they go, no, no, we're gonna. We're gonna get to the bottom of it. He goes, I had nothing to do with it. I really don't. I. I want nothing to do with it. All right? Just. If you're making a law, that's fine, but I want nothing to do with it. In the newspaper next morning, Allie's Law. You're like, oh, my gosh. They're like, allie Johnson, she Explosive diarrhea.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Maybe they spelled it wrong and people were like, if you don't let me do it, I'm gonna go in the alley.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That's. You know, I. I can't. I can't hold it. Yeah, that's really. We don't need to call it that. Yeah, no, we're going to. I'm sorry. You have ibd, and people have ibd. Be the face of ibd. You go, have it. Be other stuff.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, I always think that about those commercials. Like, constipation commercials. Like, you know, you're an actor. An actress, and you finally got a gig as a commercial. It probably pays well. But now you're like, on a constipation commercial from now on.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Like, you're always like.

[Aaron Weber]

And there are way more embarrassing ones, too, than constipation.

[Dusty Slayer]

Oh, yeah, dude, that's a Cracker barrel.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I don't think that's true.

[Aaron Weber]

They go hand in hand, though.

[Brian Bates]

You should go for some of those.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah, I'll go Off of them.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, you go. I think you could clean it up.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

For what? A constipation?

[Brian Bates]

No, just like, in general. Anxiety, like, whatever.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Like, are you worried?

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, just like any kind of, like, you know, you see this of a guy that takes something like. You don't think he would be. Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Unbelievable.

[Aaron Weber]

This guy consumes.

[Brian Bates]

I said there was one. I don't know if I'll get in trouble saying we this weekend. There's one where the guys the kids play is a dj, I guess. Or he brings a speaker and he's got a computer in the backyard. And then. So I didn't know what it was for, and I was kind of like. Because it was like a. It looked like a weird party that his parents threw for him to be a dj. And I'm like, what is this happening? I mean, I'm not even kind of looking at the medicine. I don't even know what any of this is. And then, because I enjoy some of the commercials when they are something like this. I kind of just like seeing the actors. I like watching them because it's just whatever's on the left side is a lunacy. Yeah. Whatever they're. They're having to take is the most extreme thing in the world. But then it's like a fun. Nice shopping.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Bates]

And then they were like, the medicine was for schizophrenia.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yes.

[Brian Bates]

And you're like, is there a schizophrenia? Would they know to. Would they be sitting there? Why?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Like, maybe he thought it was a real party. That's why.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, I. I understand, but I mean, I don't.

[Aaron Weber]

I don't think. Doesn't sound like there's a narrative to this.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Look at.

[Brian Bates]

Look up. Look up. Medicine for schizophrenia. I think they're advertising it. And then I thought, who would.

[Aaron Weber]

Fan apps or.

[Brian Bates]

No, I don't know what it's called, but it's like the commercial Lithium Respect. Commercial dj.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. They're like, our kid thinks it's a party. We got to get him. This is before.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, that's him.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Low motivation.

[Aaron Weber]

Okay. So then he takes him. So he shows up to him.

[Brian Bates]

No, no, I've never even seen that front part. So he escape. So I don't know where he's at. So he comes to. Yeah. So then he comes up. I don't know if where he can show it, but then it's like she comes up to him. It's like. That feels like it's her mom. Yeah, his mom. But he skateboarded, so I guess he doesn't live There now he's like a dj, I guess. He's his dj. He's only got one speaker. And. And all the people are coming up on schizophrenia treatment. So that's what I mean. So if you're doing schizophrenia treatment, is someone with schizophrenia just watching the Lions game and goes, huh. I'll write that down. Maybe that's what I have. Schizophrenia. Isn't it a little more.

[Dusty Slayer]

Is it.

[Brian Bates]

I mean, I thought, like, that's. There's movies about people with schizophrenia. Is. Do. I guess people have it lightly enough that you would just be watching a commercial.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I think everybody's just insane now, so it's like, not that big of a deal.

[Brian Bates]

I mean, am I crazy? Is schizophrenia.

[Dusty Slayer]

You would be watching this, thinking, is everybody seeing this?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Or maybe try some Covid.

[Aaron Weber]

I guess it's like, well, what else do you want in this commercial for schizophrenia?

[Brian Bates]

I mean, I want him on the roof. I want him like. Yeah. I want him doing different.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Like, from straight jacket to hanging out with people.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

I mean, I wanted to, like, you know, show me his before. Yeah. He was in a straight jacket.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Maybe he turns into a werewolf.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Some reason I have that in my head. But I wouldn't mind seeing that he's a werewolf now. He's a regular person. And this is for schizophrenia. I think it should be more extreme. I'm just. Is schizophrenia is.

[Dusty Slayer]

I. I.

[Brian Bates]

You know what? I don't be dissensive.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

You know, whatever.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Because someone could be. They could have it.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

But.

[Brian Bates]

And maybe I'm wrong.

[Nate Borghetzi]

They'll come get you.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, maybe I'm wrong. But I just. I thought it was more serious than it. A commercial on tv. Like, that's what I thought schizophrenia was like. So I don't. When you see this. Com. This commercial is for someone to see this and go, oh, yeah, you know what? Let me call my doctor and maybe see if I take this schizophrenia treatment.

[Aaron Weber]

I get it has the tone as if they're talking about, like, heartburn or something.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

And you're like, no, this is.

[Brian Bates]

Yes, that's exactly it.

[Aaron Weber]

Right.

[Brian Bates]

That's what I mean. So schizophrenia, the juxtaposition of a very.

[Aaron Weber]

Serious mental illness with a kid djing like a kickback in some backyard is. Yeah, it's pretty.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. And it's like. He's like, no motivation. Know this. No, that. You're like, well, that's not schizophrenia. Like, schizophrenia. I think people are in mental hospital. Like, is it. Unless I'm wrong on. Where else can they. What. How low can it get.

[Aaron Weber]

I think it's. Yeah, they're varying degrees, I think.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Check with your local dj.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I mean, is that even that girl? What's on the screen? That's what I want to know.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. It's the number one fastest growing schizophrenia treatment.

[Nate Borghetzi]

So schizophrenia is getting pretty serious out here. It sounds like.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, it's wild. Dude. What? All right, all right. I don't know how we got in there. Ally's Law.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, from bathroom.

[Brian Bates]

But I've been wondering that all week. I go like, what is this?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Who let the homeless guy.

[Aaron Weber]

I feel like. Did you talk about this for a while?

[Brian Bates]

It's on TV all the time.

[Aaron Weber]

I bet you did. You talk about this for like half an hour after.

[Brian Bates]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude. I was like, I don't know. What? Well, I didn't know. It's schizophrenia that I was talking about. Just something else in general that I just enjoyed the commercial because I didn't understand what it was.

[Aaron Weber]

And then that popped up at the end.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Well, the commercial didn't make sense because he's clearly, I would imagine, DJing. He's got one screen and then he's got his computer. And so I'd imagine he's being a dj. And so now they're skateboarding. So I guess he still lives at home.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I like that that girl's in it.

[Brian Bates]

Sometimes they skateboarded different ways. And then he comes home to. No, he skateboards to a party.

[Aaron Weber]

He's having trouble managing his symptoms.

[Brian Bates]

Okay.

[Aaron Weber]

He can't. So he can't fulfill his obligations.

[Brian Bates]

He skateboarded to a party. It looks like it's not his party. Right. And so then they hired him to be the dj. So then he. He's going like, all right, I'm going to be the dj.

[Aaron Weber]

But his mom's there.

[Nate Borghetzi]

She's not.

[Brian Bates]

But his mom shows up in his mind.

[Nate Borghetzi]

His mom's there.

[Brian Bates]

Oh, so maybe that'.

[Nate Borghetzi]

None of that.

[Brian Bates]

I could believe that a beautiful.

[Nate Borghetzi]

None of this is.

[Brian Bates]

That's what they should be. Yeah, they should be like, when the mom comes up, they should type in. He does not see. No one sees that mom.

[Nate Borghetzi]

He says, imagine what I. That would make sense. I could be social. I could be at parties.

[Brian Bates]

Dusty's right.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

The mom should be portrayed to us as he does. Not only he sees her.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I like that. My videos next after the schizophrenia.

[Brian Bates]

But he skates.

[Aaron Weber]

This is my own messed up algorithm now.

[Dusty Slayer]

Or.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, it's just.

[Brian Bates]

I'll tell you something that they do are doing in this commercial that I Don't mind the parties in the front yard. Yeah. And I don't mind that you don't.

[Aaron Weber]

See a front yard party.

[Brian Bates]

A front yard party. And I like a front yard party.

[Nate Borghetzi]

The schizophrenic guy showed up and shook hands with the dog.

[Brian Bates]

I thought it recently they had. I saw a house. Yeah, yeah. Or if the dog understood him.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, yeah. Like, dog's the only one really there.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. The dog is the only one that knows him.

[Dusty Slayer]

It's.

[Brian Bates]

I, I saw a house with a pool in the front and I thought that was a great idea.

[Aaron Weber]

Was it above ground pool?

[Brian Bates]

No, it was a nice. No, it was very nice.

[Aaron Weber]

I mean, like, never seen a.

[Brian Bates]

If you, if you, if you really went. If you, if you had your house set up and you had a good view, because usually your view is going to be great in the front. You know, you don't. Your front porch is awesome. You want to sit out in it. Like just move everything to the front. And the back could really be more like.

[Aaron Weber]

Don't you want a little privacy at the pool?

[Nate Borghetzi]

I like the front yard too, though. I'm with you. James Gregory has a bit on the front porch versus the deck. The deck ruined everything. When we built the deck, everybody suddenly was not hanging out with each other.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Yeah. If you're in the front. So I agree that they're throwing a party and it might be because he's not allowed in the house.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

So they go. He goes, well, how am I supposed to get to the back? I can't go through the house. And they go, well, we're just doing in the front yard.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

And this was.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, you don't want him in the house. We'll invite him to the party, but he's got to come up front.

[Brian Bates]

It's not an improvement across a range of symptoms of positive and negative. Most people taking. They saw no substantial weight grain. But why does he get his backpack and stuff on? And he's like, oh, that's right. But he's at his house.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Maybe he's also homeless.

[Brian Bates]

Well, he's at his house, though. Is it because his mom. Unless that's not his mom.

[Dusty Slayer]

That must not be his mom.

[Brian Bates]

Maybe like his. It's his aunt. Oh, no, that's his house.

[Aaron Weber]

No, I think he. Look, I think he. He's an adult.

[Brian Bates]

So that's his house.

[Aaron Weber]

Lives by. Yeah, he lives by himself there with a roommate.

[Brian Bates]

This makes sense.

[Aaron Weber]

He's having trouble managing the symptoms of his.

[Brian Bates]

And his mom booked him and he's a dj.

[Dusty Slayer]

His Mom.

[Aaron Weber]

Because you want to dj our cousins, you know, together?

[Brian Bates]

No, no, his mom book. Because he's on this. He's got schizophrenia. I don't know how. If he can work somewhere and then he. So she books him every Saturday and he thinks it's a real gig.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I think this commercial is normalizing schizophrenia.

[Aaron Weber]

Well, it's, it's, it is a noise. It's a common mental.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Brian is taking co benefi for schizophrenia.

[Dusty Slayer]

So if you're listening, go look up CObitify commercial on YouTube, see what we're talking about.

[Brian Bates]

Brian. Well, this is Brian. Oh, is taking it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Oh, so he is. So maybe. Look, Brian, I'm not trying to. Yeah, I, I, I guess I was just, you know, we've come a long way from what I thought schizophrenia was to it just being an average. Like, it just is, like on during the Cleveland Bengals game or some, you know, it's like, it's, it seems insane.

[Aaron Weber]

Bengals.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, I agree with you.

[Brian Bates]

Hey, Brian, you're not Ali's law, so that's something to be proud of.

[Aaron Weber]

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[Brian Bates]

Kendall Hearst. As a kid, I studied atlases and Know the general location of several cities that I've never visited. I enjoy looking out the window during lower altitude flights, looking for landmarks to determine where we are on the flight path. I've never been to the state of Kentucky, but successfully recognized the city of Owensboro from the air. So it seems like all that studying, he's. It's worked once.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. I just did a corporate gig in Owensboro.

[Brian Bates]

Oh, yeah?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Weird. I've never. And then I just did a corporate there.

[Brian Bates]

Our first guest, John Augustine, is from Owensboro.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Wow.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

I had the worst turbulence in years this weekend where it was like. It was almost like a boat on a lake where it was like. And you know, you just look ahead and you see everybody's head swaying with it. It's. It's pretty jarring. It lasted like almost 10 minutes of that, you know.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Wow.

[Aaron Weber]

Really makes you think about some stuff.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, I've. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been in. Where. I mean, you're just douche.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, I was with Jay flake. Slept. Slept through the whole thing.

[Brian Bates]

Did he?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Wow.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. I almost woke him up. I was like, I want you to experience. Yeah, you should. You should have to deal with this too.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. That's nice of you. I was thinking about other people. He could have just died in his sleep. You want to go, hey, buddy, we're about to go down.

[Aaron Weber]

Got any last words? I mean, come on.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Annie Finley, my niece, was about 16 years old the first time she flew. And she got the window seat about. About an hour into the flight. She asked with all seriousness, where are the lines that separate the states? You know, the ones you see on the map? She genuinely believed that there would be visible lines dividing each state, making it look like a map of the u. S. She's now 26. And remind her of that at least a couple of times each year. That does sound like. Funny that you would.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah, I can see that.

[Aaron Weber]

I get how you think that. Because there are visible borders for the countries in some parts, right?

[Brian Bates]

No.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, there's a. There's a wall between Mexico and the United States.

[Brian Bates]

Oh, yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

But I mean, the great wall of China.

[Brian Bates]

But Canada is not.

[Aaron Weber]

I mean, there's a visible border in certain parts.

[Dusty Slayer]

Europe didn't have borders on all that.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I think you still gotta, like. Don't you have to go through something to get to each country, though? You gotta go through a gate at least.

[Aaron Weber]

I was at Niagara Falls this weekend. Canada's about 100 yards away. It looked like. It looked like. Just going into like a parking Garage.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

It looked pretty easy to get through Canada.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. Canada.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I guess, depending on where you're at.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

If you're going, like, through Buffalo, it's pretty. Pretty serious.

[Brian Bates]

Did you ask to do the barrel thing? Ride a barrel over the Niagara Falls?

[Aaron Weber]

Are you talking about.

[Brian Bates]

You know, people have done that?

[Aaron Weber]

No, I don't know.

[Brian Bates]

You don't know people have done that?

[Aaron Weber]

No, I've never heard this.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, they get in a barrel and go over the natural.

[Aaron Weber]

Oh, God. Really?

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Like, they survived it.

[Brian Bates]

Some, yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Some, not all.

[Brian Bates]

I don't meant. Not very little, actually.

[Dusty Slayer]

Okay. Was it better or worse than you expected?

[Aaron Weber]

Well, I didn't bring my passport. I couldn't go to the Canadian side. Everybody said, you got to go to the Canadian side because they have the way better view. And so I only really saw it from the side.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

And we had.

[Brian Bates]

When you stand close to it, even on that side, you were still.

[Aaron Weber]

We were still getting misted by it. Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Well, there's one part you can go where you're just kind of right on the edge where it's going over and you're really close to it. It's pretty remarkable how powerful that water is.

[Dusty Slayer]

Just.

[Aaron Weber]

It looks insane, the speed that it's moving off there. But I. I didn't. I probably could have walked farther and found a better view, but I was like, I think I get it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

The Canadian side is pretty amazing, though, if you ever get that chance. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. People have said that you see it so much on TV that it doesn't seem that amazing, but I don't know. I was there and I was like, this is pretty amazing. Yeah, I'm pretty cynical about everything.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, this is pretty.

[Aaron Weber]

Have you seen the Grand Canyon?

[Nate Borghetzi]

No.

[Aaron Weber]

That's how I felt about the Grand Canyon. I bet you feel that way, too. The pictures don't do justice.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. But you know what I thought about the Grand Canyon was kind of the opposite, because it's like you can only see. The scope of what you can see is, like. It's hard to. You're seeing one little.

[Aaron Weber]

Favorite quotes from the early days of the pot. You said, the great. The Grand Canyon is so big, you almost don't even care because it's so big.

[Brian Bates]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

It's like, too big to care about.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Well, it's like when you fly over it in any commercial flight, you get.

[Aaron Weber]

A great view of it.

[Brian Bates]

You can then go like, that's nuts, dude. And you can see how big it is, but it's yeah. When you're there. I mean, I still go see it, but it's just. Yeah. I mean, what you. You can't even imagine. It's.

[Dusty Slayer]

It's.

[Brian Bates]

It's like you're seeing, like, one part of it. Heather Waldridge. I rewatched Tennessee Kid last night and wondered if Nate ever got his name updated on Delta. I. It's not on their. Not. Not through Delta. But there was a way because I like, for my flights, we have to have a travel person that books my flight. And so they were able to do it where I never ran into that problem again. And I would still get the points. But on my Delta, no, Delta was Nathaniel. Right. Whatever. Whichever it was, vice versa. But I do. I think it's. Yeah. No one ever, like, officially came in from Delta and said, we got it. I'd always have a lot of Delta flight attendants bring it up.

[Aaron Weber]

No, bring up the bit. Aura frames are the perfect gift. When you have somebody in your life and all they want for Christmas is you remember that song? You ever heard that song?

[Dusty Slayer]

For the rights of that.

[Aaron Weber]

Well, that's why I sang it a melodically. Our family lives all over the place. We're all in different cities. The holidays can sometimes just be hard logistically, getting everybody together. That's why I don't want to even meet them. I just want to show them pictures on my Aura frame. It means so much to get that quality. I was joking about that. We're trying to get together, but it's a lot.

[Dusty Slayer]

It is a lot.

[Aaron Weber]

Like, obviously in person, times are the best, but when you can't do that, Aura Frames comes in for the win. With Aura Frames, you can download the Aura app, connect it to WI Fi. You can even preload some pictures on that frame before you give it to your family member. But then when it's there, dude, you can just keep them updated. Just dump pictures on there. Here's what I've been up to. Here's what you've been missing. You know you can't see me. I can't see you, but you know you can check in on what I'm doing. You can't wrap togetherness in a gift, but you can frame it. Oh, that's good.

[Dusty Slayer]

That is good.

[Aaron Weber]

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[Dusty Slayer]

Well, this week is Thanksgiving. We're talking about Thanksgiving, as I said, off the top, something that we all participate in. So that's rare, right?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

And there's some debate about when the true first, true first Thanksgiving was the traditional story. Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock. They had their first successful corn harvest that the Native American showed them how to do. So they celebrated with Thanksgiving, 1621, three day festival, 50 pilgrims, about 90 Native Americans. That's the traditional story. Now, okay, St. Augustine, Florida claims that they did it like 60 years earlier. Some other places that claim it, but this is the one that took. Okay, any questions?

[Brian Bates]

Because it was right up. It was up near New York.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah. New York gets everything.

[Nate Borghetzi]

This is what it was.

[Brian Bates]

But in Pennsylvania, like, that's where everything kind of was. Like, even after this, it was Jamestown.

[Dusty Slayer]

So it's like Jamestown Colony was the first.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying because it was up there and that's where a civilization kind of when it all got going, it all got going there. So if you look at like when people, you know, most people just came over and went there. So no one was down here at St. Augustine, Florida. So it's like you're just going to get swallowed up by, you know, everybody's like, well, we're here.

[Aaron Weber]

They're small market.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

I think St. Augustine claims to be the oldest city in America.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, they do, they do. Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

This is what I had. This is kind of what I've come to believe about that.

[Brian Bates]

Not by just age.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. The earliest pilgrims came over and like the. In the first year they came over, they almost starved to death. And then the Native Americans saved them by, you know, I guess still that same sort of thing, teaching them how to grow certain things. But, you know, brought food.

[Dusty Slayer]

I think they gave them food directly.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. Brought food to them and saved them. So they were so thankful that they started to annually kind of celebrate this through their harvest. And you know, so it started because people really started to hate on Thanksgiving because of things that eventually would happen to Native people. But in the beginning it was like, it was this beautiful kind of friendship, sharing of things.

[Dusty Slayer]

I think about half died from the original.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Pilgrims that came but, oh, they all died.

[Brian Bates]

Half died.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, they all died eventually.

[Brian Bates]

I feel like back then. Half died always.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Year to year.

[Brian Bates]

It was half time. Yeah. It really, like. I mean, anything you go do.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. You know, Bob got diarrhea and took his whole family out.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

But that's why I like Thanksgiving.

[Brian Bates]

You wonder if people came back from those times, if you brought them back now, they would be remarkable at how long people. That their family wouldn't die. Like, I wonder if that would be the one thing they say. Like, you could be like, you could show them the Internet. You could show them planes. You could show all this stuff, and they would just be like, the fact that you got to live with your family for 80, 90 years is insane. Like, we were, you know, 20 tops, was like. Like that. I wonder if that would.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah, I used to have a joke about that. They'd be like, well, he lived to be 25. He led a good life.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Because it's all about expectations.

[Aaron Weber]

Right. Right.

[Dusty Slayer]

In the Bible. If you're living to be 900. Oh, man. He died at 650. That's tragic.

[Brian Bates]

So he had so much more to do.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah. Yeah. There was no turkey on the menu. First Thanksgiving, it was venison, duck, goose, oysters, lobster, eel, and fish were likely served.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Okay, I don't believe that.

[Aaron Weber]

When did turkey get involved?

[Dusty Slayer]

I don't. Why don't you believe that?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Well, most of those things that you listed would be, like, unclean animals. And so I think that. I don't.

[Brian Bates]

I feel like eels look pretty clean.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I just. Well, I think that the. The original Pilgrims, I think, would probably eat more biblical diets. That's just my belief. I got no evidence for it, but.

[Aaron Weber]

Okay.

[Nate Borghetzi]

All of those things, other than the deer, I feel like, are all unclean animals.

[Aaron Weber]

I feel like if they were starving, I feel like push comes to shove, they're just gonna.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. But it'd be easier to go get a turkey than the eel.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. And a lobster.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

I don't know. I think.

[Brian Bates]

Stupid. Aaron.

[Aaron Weber]

I'm sorry, guys.

[Brian Bates]

Notre Dame.

[Dusty Slayer]

I think fishing was also a big part of what the Native Americans showed them.

[Brian Bates]

That is true.

[Nate Borghetzi]

But fishing, you know, there's.

[Brian Bates]

There's shocking. They didn't even have it figured out.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Trout, there's, you know, all kinds of clean fish.

[Brian Bates]

How dumb are the Pilgrims that they never figured any of this out on the.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I think they would. I bet they knew how to fish.

[Brian Bates]

Oh, they go, I guess we can't eat here.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Bates]

And he goes, there's fish. They go, we don't have fish.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I mean, if we believe these people sailed all the way across the ocean. I bet they knew how to fish.

[Brian Bates]

I bet they caught fish when they had to catch fish on the way over to eat.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I just think they were ill prepared for. For the first real winter and all that, so.

[Dusty Slayer]

But lobster and eel, they may not had those before. Yeah, it's probably different way to catch those.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

So I don't know when turkey got involved.

[Brian Bates]

Is lobster only here they have lobster.

[Dusty Slayer]

I don't know.

[Brian Bates]

Because lobster, I feel, you know, it's got a French accent in aerial.

[Aaron Weber]

They're found in all the world's oceans, but they have. The specific species that we're thinking of is concentrated on the Atlantic coast of North America and Europe.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, so they're in Europe. So they would have had lobster.

[Aaron Weber]

European lobster. He's got. Yeah. A bunch of other types that I've never heard of. But, yeah, I think they have. I just think, like, you can really get it on our coast.

[Nate Borghetzi]

And maybe they were eating all that stuff. I just. That's not what I like to believe.

[Dusty Slayer]

So. There was a woman named Sarah Hale. H A L E. And she wrote Mary Had a Little Lamb.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Oh, great song. I sing that song to my kids a lot. Mary had a little lamb.

[Dusty Slayer]

Little.

[Aaron Weber]

Okay, the lyrics or the music too? She was a musician.

[Dusty Slayer]

I don't know. She wrote that song.

[Brian Bates]

Okay, which came first?

[Nate Borghetzi]

I don't know. There is really music to it, right?

[Aaron Weber]

You just. It's a song.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I just sing.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, but I think you just sing it. It's like acapella. Yeah, it would have been acapella. Maybe they've added music.

[Dusty Slayer]

You mean the tune, like the.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yes, I think the lyrics first.

[Brian Bates]

The lyrics first, and then I don't know. If pianos were around.

[Aaron Weber]

You could still write the notes, guys. There's a melody to it.

[Brian Bates]

But they wouldn't write notes from nada having a piano. What is she gonna write notes? And you go, what's that for? And they go. One day a piano will be invented, and then you can use this for the.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, we just gotta kill some elephants.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Please tell me these people. Yeah, they weren't. You're. You're over two.

[Dusty Slayer]

You look really dumb here.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, my bad, guys. What about Sarah Hale? What'd she do?

[Dusty Slayer]

Well, besides writing Married a Little Lamb, she is called the Mother of Thanksgiving because it was originally only celebrated mostly in New England, but she thought everybody should celebrate it. And so she started writing a letter to the President. Every year for 17 years. She wrote to Zachary Taylor, Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Abraham Lincoln. Finally, Abraham Lincoln said, okay, this lady's not going to leave us alone, so let's just do it. And he established. Thinks it was a national holiday in 1863. It was considered a unifying day after the stress of the Civil War, although the Civil War was still going on then. So that's. But anyway, so she is the mother of things. She's the one that just kept badgering them to make it a national holiday.

[Brian Bates]

So what do you think she's more proud of that or the Mary Had a Little Lamb.

[Aaron Weber]

Those are two pretty great accomplishments.

[Brian Bates]

They are. In one life, I would say Marry a Little Lamb, though, like the other one you just were. I mean, still, the fact that it still hung on. How did she. Did she ever make money on it? Married a Little Lamb.

[Aaron Weber]

She had some novels published. She was a writer, so she made some money from that. I don't know. I don't know if Mary Had a Little Lamb was copyrighted or anything. She lived to 89 or 90 to 90 years old.

[Dusty Slayer]

It's based on a true story.

[Brian Bates]

Mary Had a Little Lamb.

[Dusty Slayer]

I think I heard that somewhere. The lamb followed her to school and.

[Nate Borghetzi]

They killed the kids. Loved it. They loved to watch it laugh and play. Oh, yeah, it made them laugh.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, I could see that.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

So her husband died because it wasn't.

[Nate Borghetzi]

It was against the rules to take a lamb to school back then.

[Aaron Weber]

This woman's husband died in 1822. She wore black for the rest of her life in perpetual mourning. She died in 1879. So for 77. Or wait, wait 57 years.

[Brian Bates]

When did she write Mary Had a Little Lamb?

[Nate Borghetzi]

She sounds like a dramatic lady, I'll tell you that.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. 1830 it was published. So that was she.

[Brian Bates]

She wrote it in black.

[Aaron Weber]

She. She did eight years after us. She wrote it in morning.

[Brian Bates]

I wonder if then they were like. The children were singing it happily and she goes, it's a sad song.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Is there more?

[Aaron Weber]

Right?

[Nate Borghetzi]

You think there's more to the original song? Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Why does the Lamb love Mary so Mary so Mary.

[Aaron Weber]

This isn't even the version that I'm thinking of right here.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, well, now there's a new. Now that's it. Fleece was white as.

[Nate Borghetzi]

And the teacher turned him out but he still, still he lingered near. Yeah, I don't know all this.

[Aaron Weber]

Yes. It's probably a. A much darker story.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I gotta get into. I gotta get into that. Sarah. Hail Mary. Slam Two other verses to that I don't know about. Wow. We're just repeating Little Lamb over and over.

[Brian Bates]

When was the piano invented?

[Aaron Weber]

The piano is eventually. It has. It has predecessors.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. Classical.

[Aaron Weber]

There's. There's a harpsichord before. That's where like most of like. So like Mozart and those guys.

[Dusty Slayer]

That's what they played.

[Aaron Weber]

A lot of them did. Yeah. They played the harpsichord.

[Dusty Slayer]

Huh.

[Brian Bates]

So there's no real answer still.

[Aaron Weber]

No. Well, this is a lot of. It's like.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Hundreds and hundreds.

[Nate Borghetzi]

So the 1700s, is that right earlier? Yeah, about.

[Aaron Weber]

About right around then. Things got going.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Forte piano.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. So, like, what you think of as a piano? 1700s.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

So she probably did, right?

[Brian Bates]

No, I don't think she had music.

[Dusty Slayer]

Well, it said. Was a poem, so maybe it was made into a song later.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

So Thanksgiving is the fourth Thursday of every November. And it used to be. Go ahead, Dusty.

[Nate Borghetzi]

No, no, see what you're going to say.

[Dusty Slayer]

It used to be the last Thursday of the month, but Sarah Held's daughter kept writing letters. But that would make it occasionally, you know, there's. Occasionally there'd be five Thursdays in a month.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

And one year it fell on November 30, I think, and Franklin D. Roosevelt changed it because it's to give people more time to shop for Christmas.

[Brian Bates]

Okay.

[Dusty Slayer]

It's during the Great Depression. He wanted people to have more time, so he changed the law to say.

[Nate Borghetzi]

It's to say, get out there and spend that money, guys.

[Dusty Slayer]

But there was some confusion at first. The states were practicing two different Thursdays, so we're sticking with the fourth. I'm doing the fifth. So then Congress passed a law just making it the fourth Thursday.

[Nate Borghetzi]

See, I always thought, till recently it was the third Thursday, and I wondered if it was like some Mandela effect, that it used to be the third Thursday and then they switched to the.

[Dusty Slayer]

Fourth, but nobody remembers change in 2016.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, yeah, maybe.

[Dusty Slayer]

No, I don't think so. I think it's always been the fourth Thursday. All right, so the average number of calories consumed On Thanksgiving is 4, 500 calories.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Is that a lot?

[Aaron Weber]

Is that just the. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's putting in some work.

[Nate Borghetzi]

What are we supposed to take?

[Brian Bates]

22,000.

[Dusty Slayer]

2,000?

[Brian Bates]

It.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. More than doubling it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Getting in there. Is that just the first. That's just like. I don't know. When y' all do, like the big Thanksgiving meal, we always do like early. Early afternoon or like.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, I don't know, two or three.

[Aaron Weber]

O' clock or Something.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Two o'. Clock.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Is that just meal or does that include all the. All the following.

[Brian Bates]

I would imagine the whole day. Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah, I think so.

[Aaron Weber]

Because I actually think my favorite meals are the day after Thanksgiving.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

With all the leftovers there. You know, we take some of the ham, make a sandwich out of it.

[Brian Bates]

Yep.

[Nate Borghetzi]

The Sleigh family used to do a great Thanksgiving. I mean, they really would come together.

[Aaron Weber]

What's on the spread?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Well, I mean, Hannah. I mean, Hannah went with me the first time, and she was really blown away by how much food there was. You know, it's turkey dressing, ham, cranberry sauce. You got a bunch of dirt. You got casserole, green bean casserole.

[Aaron Weber]

The side steal the show.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Potatoes, sweet potato casserole. You got banana, banana pudding, apple pie, pecan pie. I mean, pumpkin. Probably a sweet potato pie. Okay. And then there's just. It's just so much of it. Everybody brings stuff and there's. There's cookies and. And my Hannah was blown away.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Because they have Canadian Thanksgiving.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Is there like a food element to Canadian Thanksgiving? The way that there is similar. Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

But according to her, they were not doing it like we were.

[Aaron Weber]

Okay.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. Now, as everybody gets older, as I've complained about on the podcast before, when the older relatives die, it gets. Everything gets less good.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

We're losing recipes.

[Aaron Weber]

You know what?

[Dusty Slayer]

You know what? Can it. Canada celebrates Thanksgiving for.

[Aaron Weber]

I don't know, the day we let them exist.

[Dusty Slayer]

I think it was when the Prince of Wales health got better.

[Aaron Weber]

Oh, really?

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

I think that's what I read today. I've mentioned this fact before, but the day after Thanksgiving is the busiest day of the year for plumbers. They call it Brown Thursday or Brown Friday. It's mainly because people are dumping leftovers, grease, stuff like that down the sink.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

At least that's what.

[Aaron Weber]

Sure. Yes.

[Brian Bates]

It depends on the neighborhood.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Football started as a traditional Thanksgiving. 1876. Yale and Princeton. The first NFL game was 1920. That's crazy.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I do love some Thanksgiving football.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, it's the best.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, it's nice.

[Dusty Slayer]

Started playing on TV in 1934.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I tell you what's not rigged the. The Lions losing every Thanksgiving. They just can't do it.

[Brian Bates]

Did they not win last year?

[Nate Borghetzi]

I don't know. Maybe last year.

[Dusty Slayer]

They've been good lately. Cowboys began playing on Thanksgiving, 1966. So Lion's been doing it since what I say, 30, 34. Cowboys started 1966 when general manager Tech Scram signed on to play because he saw it, got national publicity. And then 2006. I can't believe it's been this long. They added a third NFL game. I feel like that just started.

[Nate Borghetzi]

They go, are you spending time with your family? We got another game for you to watch.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah. That's great.

[Brian Bates]

I think people want stuff to do. You know what the great night for comedy is? The night before Thanksgiving.

[Aaron Weber]

It's the drunkest night in America.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yep.

[Aaron Weber]

Of the year. That Wednesday.

[Dusty Slayer]

Busiest night of the year for bars is Thanksgiving. It's known as Blackout Wednesday. Or drinks Giving drinks.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I like a blackout Wednesday.

[Brian Bates]

Movie theaters are good too.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yep.

[Brian Bates]

On Thanksgiving.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

How about you, Dusty? When you're drinking days, would you go home to Opelika and meet up with the guys?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was a blast.

[Dusty Slayer]

Crazy.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, it was awesome.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I didn't even know it was called Blackout Wednesday. I was doing it.

[Dusty Slayer]

In Springfield, Missouri, they do Wild Turkey Wednesday. It's a tradition where it's a local citywide party started at one bar. Now I think it's spread to other places, but it is the busiest. The night before is the busiest night of the year for bars. Also, the day before is the busiest day of the year for grocery stores.

[Aaron Weber]

Oh, yeah. It makes sense. All the last minute stuff.

[Brian Bates]

Yep.

[Aaron Weber]

Getting in there.

[Dusty Slayer]

There's a lot of Thanksgiving leads a lot of things in the busiest malls. Black Friday is the busiest day of the year for malls.

[Aaron Weber]

It's important to the economy, important to the country. You know, they got rid of it.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

It would not be good.

[Brian Bates]

Well, if they got rid of it, I think you would just go into like the Black Friday stuff and Amazon. Like, you'd be into, like, it'd be purely corporate.

[Aaron Weber]

But I think, yeah, if you got rid of Thanksgiving, then like Black Friday. I don't know if it can just exist as its own thing.

[Nate Borghetzi]

It's already kind of dying, I think. Right.

[Aaron Weber]

What is Thanksgiving?

[Nate Borghetzi]

No, no, Black Friday, the. The actual physical show.

[Brian Bates]

Because it's like online. What is it? Cyber Monday.

[Aaron Weber]

Cyber Monday. Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Small Business Tuesdays.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. All those days.

[Dusty Slayer]

Harry Truman is often credited with being the first president to partner turkey, but that's actually not true. He was the first to receive a ceremonial turkey. Ceremonial turkey. But he had it for dinner.

[Aaron Weber]

Oh, really?

[Dusty Slayer]

John F. Kennedy was the first to let a Thanksgiving turkey go, followed by Richard Nixon, who sent his turkey to a petting zoo.

[Aaron Weber]

And now they do it every year now.

[Dusty Slayer]

George H.W. bush made it a turkey pardoning tradition every year.

[Brian Bates]

It's a good idea.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I think they this year Killer Trump.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

About 50 million Americans tune into Thanksgiving Day parade each year. 3.5 million view it in person.

[Aaron Weber]

See that? I don't.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I.

[Brian Bates]

A parade.

[Aaron Weber]

I don't get. I don't. I know people are into it. I've tried. I don't get it as a television.

[Dusty Slayer]

I don't either.

[Brian Bates]

I think it's like, you know, it's. It can be nice to have on and it's just on in the background.

[Aaron Weber]

You know, there's the paint, you know, there's Snoopy going by, I guess.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

I think people get into it. Like they.

[Brian Bates]

Well, I think if you were there. Yeah. You're seeing them. They're so big. It's like, like being there is like crazy. And then so. And then they. It's show. I mean, you know, they have like Fallon usually like there and like, so they go by and do something and it's like, you know, the bands come through.

[Aaron Weber]

Marching bands.

[Brian Bates]

Something that's pleasurable, that is on tv, that doesn't feel like it's wanting something from you.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, I'm into it.

[Dusty Slayer]

Don't the dog. Don't they always do a dog show on Thanksgiving too?

[Aaron Weber]

Probably.

[Dusty Slayer]

I feel like it comes on after the parade. But the first large scale balloon in the Thanksgiving Day parade was Felix the cat.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I love Felix.

[Aaron Weber]

Felix.

[Dusty Slayer]

Before that they were just using zoo animals.

[Aaron Weber]

What was Felix the cat was a cartoon.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I was thinking of he Cliff. But I do like.

[Dusty Slayer]

I was thinking of he Cliff too.

[Aaron Weber]

What did he. What did he do?

[Dusty Slayer]

I don't know.

[Brian Bates]

Okay.

[Dusty Slayer]

But that's pretty crazy. They were using zoo animals.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Before.

[Brian Bates]

They should go back to that.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. So then they started doing no leashes. Let them run free running of the running of the zoo animals.

[Dusty Slayer]

That could be a tradition. There's a lot of marathon. There's, you know, there's a lot of races on Thanksgiving.

[Aaron Weber]

Oh, yeah, dude. You do a turkey trot Thanksgiving morning.

[Brian Bates]

I think it's like. Yeah, but it's like then you. Then you feel like you get to eat. You get up and then you're like. You feel good.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. Also that's just your right as an American to eat.

[Brian Bates]

To eat. I know.

[Aaron Weber]

Justified physically. You can just, you know.

[Dusty Slayer]

But Dusty's saying if you turn the animals loose, that would motivate you to run.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, probably.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

But anyway, so they started doing balloons, but they had no plan for deflating the balloons, so most were simply allowed to float away afterwards.

[Brian Bates]

Imagine just get that landed on your house in Kansas. You're Just like, what nobody believes you.

[Dusty Slayer]

Is that Mickey mouse during the 1993 parade. Eruptive.

[Brian Bates]

I like, old timey was a lot of like, just let it go, man.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Like, old timey stuff was very much just like, we get it. Everybody's like, that's amazing. And there was never, what are you going to do with it? And just no one cared.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

And I mean, now there's a lot of. Everybody's going like, what were we doing with all this stuff? And you're like, yeah. I mean, I. I can see it becomes a problem, but, man, what if, even though it was a hard time is still free in time that you could let a balloon go back in the 20s and I mean, they wouldn't even.

[Dusty Slayer]

A gigantic balloon.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Size of a house.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

You can just let it go. And they're like.

[Nate Borghetzi]

And if it did land in your town, that would have been in the paper.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

It would have been a big deal.

[Brian Bates]

It would have been fun.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

You would know about it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. Be like, oh, Owensboro got Snoopy this year.

[Brian Bates]

I think they should actually. I think they should do that.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Now. Now that would be the Macy's Days parade should do that. At the end of it, you let it go and you see who gets it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

And if they. If your town gets it, you win money.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

There's money in Macy's gift card. Yeah, yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Two stores left.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

We should do that.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

In Manhattan and just see. See how far it goes.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, just see where it goes. See if it makes it. How far would they flow?

[Aaron Weber]

I mean, it's going to get to Hoboken, maybe you think? Yeah, I don't think they're gonna go to Owensboro, Kentucky, or any of these others.

[Brian Bates]

How's.

[Dusty Slayer]

Boy, that thing went.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Really far.

[Aaron Weber]

How far did I go to another state?

[Dusty Slayer]

I thought it did.

[Brian Bates]

How far? Well, they, like. Can you type in how far could a Macy's Day.

[Nate Borghetzi]

You may need to go to Chat GPT for this.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

I need to go to the Dark Web.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

I mean, okay. The parade route is 2.5 miles. That's not what I wanted at all.

[Brian Bates]

If we let it go. If you let it. Because they have to hold it down. If you let it go.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah. Okay. A Macy's parade float could not be let go and float away like a helium balloon. The floats are built on truck or tractor chassis and are actively driven along the parade route. They're not airborne for the most part.

[Brian Bates]

Well, let's get them airborne.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, let's get some helium.

[Brian Bates]

Let's get some helium in them. Let's get something in them and just set them and let them go. And then they see you send them off in directions. Like, once it hits the last thing, it goes up, you point one that way, one straight wherever it makes it, and makes it.

[Dusty Slayer]

1993 parade. A ripped a Woody Woodpecker's hand caused him to slowly deflate, requiring him to be lowered to the ground. When was that 1993 Seinfeld episode?

[Brian Bates]

Oh, yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

About it.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. That's funny. It was a real thing. Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Seinfeld episode where it was like a. Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Woody. Is it like a no statue, Empire State Building.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Thing. And they knock it.

[Dusty Slayer]

Knock it out the window, and it deflates. Woody Wood.

[Brian Bates]

Woody.

[Dusty Slayer]

1997, the Barney balloon was ripped along its abdomen due to strong winds, while Pink Panther had to be stabbed by police in order to be stabilized.

[Brian Bates]

That's the opposite. Well, you usually hear, yeah, yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Cat in the Hat struck a lamppost at 72nd street and crumpled to the ground. So 1997 was a tough year for the parade.

[Nate Borghetzi]

And was it real windy?

[Dusty Slayer]

I didn't say it must have been, but yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Graduated high school. I remember being windy that day.

[Dusty Slayer]

After that, they instituted size regulations, required all balloons to be no larger than 70ft high. 78.

[Brian Bates]

That's where you go wrong, man. I mean, like, here's why the Macy's Dre Parade would be. They need to be gigantic. You need them to be the size of buildings.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Like, and then you're watching it, and you're like, goodness, dude. Like, look at the scale of that.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. When they say how big it can be, well, you're like, well, they'll never get bigger than this.

[Brian Bates]

Yes.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Let it be big.

[Brian Bates]

It needs to be big.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Who cares if they get tore up? Yeah. Who cares if you lose a lamppost in the city?

[Brian Bates]

That's fun. That adds to it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. I would have them be so. They should be so big.

[Dusty Slayer]

Big.

[Brian Bates]

So big. As big as.

[Dusty Slayer]

You know, those are huge. It's just that it's in New York City, so.

[Brian Bates]

I know, but throw. Throw them. Let us see some context. Throw it. Throw it in Lebanon. Well, those buildings are big, but then even go bigger. Well, you could go bigger than that, I guess you have to have a lot more ropes holding it down.

[Dusty Slayer]

But don't worry about it. If it gets away, it gets away.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, but I thought it can't float, so where's it going to go?

[Dusty Slayer]

Well, I got to put Helium in it, too.

[Brian Bates]

I know, but how does it stay up then?

[Aaron Weber]

I think they have helium. I think I. This was bad information from before. A lot of these f. Helium.

[Brian Bates]

So they would float.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

The big one right there with Barney's got. It looks like it's got a lot of ropes. Oh, that's.

[Dusty Slayer]

Is it?

[Brian Bates]

No, that's just the picture. Is that.

[Aaron Weber]

Yes, that's. No, those. Those are ropes holding it down.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, that's a lot of ropes. Which doesn't make it look as good, but. Yeah, make them. I mean, it should be. I know they're big, but you should have one that is the size of a building. I mean, what if you had one that was half the size of the Empire State Building?

[Aaron Weber]

That'd be great.

[Brian Bates]

That might be the only one you need.

[Dusty Slayer]

A Godzilla one.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. What if. Yeah, what if they did that? They told a story.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Bates]

With the. And it was Godzilla coming through the city.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. And then if it wrecked things, you'd be like, well, yeah. Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

It was all part of the show.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

People died.

[Nate Borghetzi]

He likes a good show.

[Dusty Slayer]

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[Aaron Weber]

Oh, yeah.

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[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

What do the Webers do?

[Aaron Weber]

I don't know about drink. I did realize later in life that my Family does do something weird, the way that we serve the food. So my whole life, I don't think I've ever talked about this on the podcast before, but when we have a family meal or anything, my dad sits at whoever the man of the house is sits at the end of the table, and all the food's in front of him, and he plates everyone's food for him.

[Brian Bates]

Oh, wow.

[Aaron Weber]

So he's standing here. Stand here. Everybody's sitting. He'll make your plate pass it down to you. He'll make your plate pass it down. And that's how we did every family meal of mine growing up. And that's just.

[Brian Bates]

I thought everybody did it every Thanksgiving or every meal.

[Aaron Weber]

Every meal that we're at the table. He said, I like that. He'll make it.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

And then I will go to friend's house, and it's just a free for all. Like, there's got everything late. I'm like, what's going on here?

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

And they're like, this is how. This is how it's done.

[Dusty Slayer]

You're like, I want your dad to serve me.

[Aaron Weber]

I go, I'd like your dad to sit at the end of the table and make me a plate, please. And if you wanted seconds, you'd pass your plate back to him and he'd.

[Brian Bates]

Put a little more.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I like that.

[Brian Bates]

It's another bizarre. Another piece to the puzzles.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

I mean, that's.

[Aaron Weber]

But I asked, you know, I want.

[Nate Borghetzi]

To start doing that with my family now.

[Aaron Weber]

That's how.

[Brian Bates]

Well, yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

My dad was raised. My grandfather would do the same thing. He'd sit. And I think it's just. Oh, I don't know why it started. I can't think of a practical reason why this would benefit anybody.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

But it's just the way that it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Shows the hierarchy of the family.

[Aaron Weber]

Well, it does do that.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

And you want to let the family know. Yeah, yeah. It's. Yeah. You want them to know. Don't forget who's in charge.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. The head of the household.

[Aaron Weber]

This meal that your mom made.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

I'm in control of it. At the end of the table.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

What's your grandfather's name?

[Aaron Weber]

Foston Neff Weber and then Albert Mahan, my two grandfathers.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Like the mayhem on the commercial.

[Nate Borghetzi]

The mayhem, man.

[Aaron Weber]

Mayhem. That's my mom's maiden mayhem. Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

I don't think you're supposed to give that out.

[Aaron Weber]

That's true. Yeah. It's my security. Security question.

[Brian Bates]

I mean, that's.

[Aaron Weber]

I was also born At Baptist Hospital. First pet name was Rocket.

[Brian Bates]

I was born a Baptist here in Nashville. So was he. Weren't you?

[Dusty Slayer]

No.

[Brian Bates]

You're born in stable. Nativity scene. You're, like, right on the cusp where they go. No, we had doctors, but we still did it in the barn. It was. It didn't all the way flip over. Like, they were still house calls. Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

They delivered.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Your family, you didn't have alcohol there Thanksgiving, did you? We didn't either.

[Brian Bates]

We didn't either.

[Dusty Slayer]

We do ice. We do sweet tea.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. We were all Baptist. Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

We're Catholic. We got after it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Only male turkeys gobble. Female turkeys cackle.

[Nate Borghetzi]

A cackle sounds about right.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

All right.

[Dusty Slayer]

That's where we're at in the show. 60% of Americans say they'd rather do anything other than think about what they're grateful for on Thanksgiving.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Wow. That shows.

[Brian Bates]

Why do you do anything like that?

[Dusty Slayer]

You're fine.

[Aaron Weber]

Do you ever do it? Go around, say something you're thankful for?

[Brian Bates]

I don't think.

[Aaron Weber]

Do you like that kind of stuff?

[Brian Bates]

I don't, but I don't. Weird. I, I, my. I like that stuff. We're very grateful family, but I think tradition, stuff like that is something that we're not. We do, we don't. I don't think anybody was really raised like that in our family.

[Aaron Weber]

You could start it now, dude. You're in control now.

[Brian Bates]

You're exactly right.

[Aaron Weber]

How often do you think about that as a parent? Like, I. Traditions and stuff like that and the responsibility. You have to start that stuff.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, I think that. I mean, look at, like, I always think about that stuff being pat. Like, stuff being passed down. We ain't got nothing that's ever been passed down. Like, stuff just doesn't. There's no watch. There's no. I have a joke. And I always tried to make it. I forget where it is. I might still be able to do it actually in a spot because it's like, you know, you're like. You're like, well, these were my this and that. And you're like, I just don't think we really had that. I mean, you know, my dad's upbringing was, like, you know, pretty rough. So it's like, it was just a lot of those traditions and that kind of stuff wasn't there. And so, I mean, maybe I'm forgetting some. I mean, we had something I forgot, like, but it's. Yeah. I don't know if we really did. And then where Laura's family I think had a little. They had more of that kind of stuff.

[Aaron Weber]

You don't do any of it?

[Brian Bates]

No, I, I, I. Yeah, I think I would feel weird about it for some reason, and that's me. Like, maybe I should. But it's like, my person, like, I don't know. I would feel like, you know. But I. But I'm very grateful.

[Aaron Weber]

Do you carve the turkey?

[Brian Bates]

No, No, I don't do any. No, I don't do. I don't like turkey. No, but they. They do it.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

But I don't. You know, it's. Yeah, there's not really a good. I don't. I don't think it's a. You know, I'm trying to think. We, you know, I mean, like, Christmas, we had the. You were. You would get. You know, Santa brings us three presents, and then the rest are wrapped.

[Dusty Slayer]

We don't have any traditions either.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, I don't think it was just. It was Thanksgiving. You'd have. We have everybody over now. I think now maybe we do. I guess everybody comes to our house and you host. We. Yeah, we host. And, you know, I. It's like.

[Dusty Slayer]

I don't know.

[Brian Bates]

What kind of space did people even have to do this stuff? I don't like. No one had a house that was like. If we had Thanksgiving at someone's house. They were all very small houses.

[Dusty Slayer]

You said a joke about that.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. What was it?

[Dusty Slayer]

Did you. I don't know if you.

[Brian Bates]

Oh, that's something about them.

[Aaron Weber]

Your parents downsize but still want to host.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

So the tables are, like, sneaking through the hallway.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, I don't think we, in our families growing up, we ever had, like, a house that could host everybody. It would be. If you did it. It's like half of the people eating outside. Half are in a garage or somewhere. Whatever. Everybody's kind of broken up. So it's not this proper. Like, it's already. There is. No, the tradition is just we're all together.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

But it's like, there's not a big table that we're sitting at and we all sit down and we're all talking. It's like. It's all just kind of, like, chaotic.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

But we're all in the same house.

[Dusty Slayer]

Okay.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

If it was, like, a big family. Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

That's nice.

[Dusty Slayer]

What tradition will you institute with Olive?

[Aaron Weber]

Oh, a lot. It's gonna be very regimented. 0.0fun.

[Dusty Slayer]

You'll make her curve. Carve the.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, I'll make her. Yeah. I'll make her do all the work, do the dishes.

[Brian Bates]

Will you do it so she'll know you're in charge?

[Aaron Weber]

I think she's.

[Brian Bates]

I think that's what. I think. Lucy's doing it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. To let the family know because you feel they.

[Nate Borghetzi]

If they don't get it.

[Brian Bates]

What if there's a little uprising? You feel an uprising happen?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Bates]

How about in your family, anytime you feel there's an uprising, you know, there's a little clap back when you serve dinner that night.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna go. Listen, if you want more, you come to me.

[Brian Bates]

That's right. I like it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Keep talking like that. You're in a small portion of whatever.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. The problem is the, you know, kids, they don't want to eat what we're cooking, so they're like, great.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

What are you cooking?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Well, we just, you know, we cook. My wife cooks great meals. But, you know, you know, kids, they're like, I want. I want Cheerios. Or, you know what I mean? I want pizza.

[Dusty Slayer]

You should serve lamb and then sing Mariette a Little Lamb.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I should.

[Brian Bates]

We do. You know, a tradition would be. I think sometimes it could be like, you'd want McDonald's, like, that night or something. Like, it's like you have Thanksgiving.

[Dusty Slayer]

That's a Nate tradition.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, that's a me tradition. At night, you're like, I just want some McDonald's. Or maybe it's Thanksgiving night or the next day, maybe the next day, but it could. Yeah, maybe it's the next day.

[Dusty Slayer]

You.

[Brian Bates]

Because you're like, after you have, like, two full days of just, like, all this kind of like real food, you're like, you know, I want some McDonald's.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I haven't checked in with you guys in a while on this. You guys are still into McDonald's pretty hard.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, I've been quite often.

[Aaron Weber]

I haven't eaten there a while, but. Yeah, I still like what they're still like what they're doing.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Still into it.

[Brian Bates]

Wow.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, I've been there this week.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, it's Monday.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah, I've been there this weekend. On the road.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, I've eaten. Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

What'd you. What'd you get when you were there?

[Brian Bates]

Number one. No onions.

[Dusty Slayer]

I got the number seven.

[Nate Borghetzi]

What's a number one?

[Brian Bates]

Big McMill.

[Nate Borghetzi]

What's the number seven?

[Dusty Slayer]

Two cheeseburger meal.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Oh, okay.

[Aaron Weber]

Used to be a number nine.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Okay.

[Aaron Weber]

I built it down to a seven.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, it's a nine. Yeah, I had that recently.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I watched A tick tock about a guy who. He. He was just holding a hamburger. He said, I've had this for 11 months. It's a McDonald's burger I've had for 11 months. He was just. It wasn't in a case. Yeah, he's just holding it.

[Aaron Weber]

Believed him, though.

[Brian Bates]

And what? And like, it's still.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Precisely. Totally looks the same.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

No mold.

[Aaron Weber]

That just means that. I mean, they're killing it. That's how good it is, dude.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

I think you eat. I think we eat it with the understanding and we know that it's not. It's not good. It's not good for you.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I just like to check in with you guys.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Are you not eating anything bad?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Well, I try not to, but yeah, McDonald's in particular. You just feel, you know, maybe, you.

[Brian Bates]

Know, they're the one that's not good.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Well, I don't eat Burger King or.

[Brian Bates]

Wendy's or at Burger King today.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Did you? Yeah, or I think Chick Fil A. I mean, I've said this before. I even think it's gone downhill. A lot of people disagree, but I think I. I still think it tastes good.

[Brian Bates]

But they. Their pretzel bun thing is unreal.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, it is. It's really, you know, sandwich.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I said I like steak and shake burgers on here one time, and I got some pretty bad criticism from a.

[Aaron Weber]

Guy, but from a random guy.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, but I think that.

[Brian Bates]

But if you eat clean.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

So you eat pretty clean.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I try to, yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

I don't want to be insensitive. How are you not shredded right now?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Well, look all right. Yeah, I look all right.

[Brian Bates]

I do. I know I do.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I'm sitting down in a chair. Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

But I would think.

[Dusty Slayer]

Take your shirt off.

[Brian Bates]

But I'm saying if it. If you. You would be shredded.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Well, you gotta be. You know, there's a good bit of exercise that comes in with being shredded.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Do you weightlift or anything like that?

[Nate Borghetzi]

I lift a little weights.

[Dusty Slayer]

Okay.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I do a little cardio. Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

On a treadmill.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

You gotta get out and get. Start grounding.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Well, I do ground, but, yeah, I mean, I just, you know, I. I quit eating bread. I've not had bread in about over a month.

[Aaron Weber]

How's it feel?

[Brian Bates]

Which I can't see. I feel like. I can see that you're.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, yeah, it feels great looking.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

You can see what? That he hasn't had bread.

[Brian Bates]

Well, maybe I'm seeing him now. If I look at him more in his face, like I can See it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I did have a fried. You know, I have some. You know, I. I'm still out and about.

[Dusty Slayer]

Green room.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. I had a chicken finger over in the green room. I told Abigail, shame on you, that I'm not eating bread. And then I ate a chicken finger. She goes, does that not count as bread because it was fried? And I go, well, technically, but, you know, I've not had a sandwich in.

[Aaron Weber]

A month now we're splitting hairs.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. She really came at me, so I was like, what, are we married?

[Dusty Slayer]

So you're.

[Brian Bates]

We're just the Bargettis. We just. Yeah, we're. We're. What you say we go? But I thought, yeah, because we take it as you judging us.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Why?

[Aaron Weber]

Yeah, I take it that way, too.

[Brian Bates]

So I take it that way. Then you go, well, yeah, chicken finger. And then it. I do take it like you're trying to say something. I think the.

[Nate Borghetzi]

The Bible says something like, don't judge, lest you be judged by others. So when I'm judging, I expect it in return.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is a good way to think about it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Brian Bates]

So the Bible does. Is like, look, judge. Because then even God, when you go, but they judge me. And he goes, well, you can do that if they judge you.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, yeah. If you're going to be doing it to other people, expect it back back at you.

[Brian Bates]

Right.

[Dusty Slayer]

So your wife's Canadian, so Thanksgiving, where you go is probably not an issue.

[Nate Borghetzi]

No, it's hard. Different for me. I got divorced, you know, parents, and then I got other family members that I hang out with that don't necessarily hang out with each other. So I try to accommodate my whole life. Growing up, it was two Thanksgivings.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I would have Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving with my dad. A lot of times we'd do Thanksgiving the day before, or I'd do Thanksgiving with my dad and then go to my mom's, and we would have kind of a night. Nighttime Thanksgiving.

[Aaron Weber]

Two Thanksgivings.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Sounds awesome.

[Dusty Slayer]

What are y' all doing? It wasn't.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

The alternate parents we got, now you got the.

[Aaron Weber]

Being married throws a wrench in everything, because now you got her families. That's two families to juggle. And then I got my immediate family and then my two extended families. So there's like six different possibilities. Or five.

[Dusty Slayer]

Oh, because grandparents are still in the equation.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Well, two different.

[Dusty Slayer]

For a long time.

[Aaron Weber]

Just like mom's family, Dad's family, you know, and then Lucy's mom's family, and Lucy's dad's family and then just my immediate family. That's like five different options. Or you'd spend it by yourself. We're doing my, my, my immediate family this year. Yeah, but then you got to go like, well, the next year you do it there.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's what you do. You just rotate. I want to eventually just be like.

[Aaron Weber]

Everyone come to me every year.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Even if it's your family, bring your family over here. We just have a massive amount.

[Nate Borghetzi]

It's. This is sponsored by Nateland.

[Brian Bates]

Yes. This.

[Nate Borghetzi]

This Thanksgiving sponsor.

[Brian Bates]

That's what I would want to do.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Sounds awesome.

[Brian Bates]

I was like, yeah, I would like.

[Aaron Weber]

Take all the whatever.

[Brian Bates]

Take all the whatever out. Everybody see everybody.

[Aaron Weber]

Everybody come over at the compound. Dude.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Actually it sounds like the dream.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I almost had that happen. It was 20, 21 and you know, things are still a little shaky and we had just had a baby and I had. My dad agreed to come with his family. My mom, my brother in law who doesn't really get along with a lot of my family, they had all agreed to come. But we had this brand new little baby and we were scared to get her sick. So we go, hey, listen guys, if anybody is sick, you know, maybe don't come. And then. No, but. But everybody was like, oh, I'm sick, I'm sick. And I was like, they just used. Used it as a way to get. Yeah. They go, I'm sick.

[Brian Bates]

He said, you're like, no one wanted it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. You thought people.

[Brian Bates]

You thought like they wanted it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

And where would they be driving from?

[Nate Borghetzi]

All from Alabama.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

But it was like it would be a big, you know, a big family group.

[Aaron Weber]

It'd be great.

[Nate Borghetzi]

This will be awesome.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

But I did take my dad to my sister's Thanksgiving, which is. It's not her dad. And I thought that would be fun because my mom was there. I thought, well, this will be cool. But it was weird. Yeah, it was weird.

[Dusty Slayer]

You should have something at the cabin.

[Nate Borghetzi]

I should.

[Dusty Slayer]

The first. The sleigh Thanksgiving, you could have a lot of people there.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah.

[Dusty Slayer]

Kill a turkey on side.

[Brian Bates]

You have a sleigh where they just all get to meet each other, you know?

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brian Bates]

Now who's your dad? Just a lot of that. He just looking around for.

[Dusty Slayer]

All right, well, we can wrap it up.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah. Happy Thanksgiving.

[Nate Borghetzi]

This is great. Do you guys.

[Aaron Weber]

See ya.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Do you guys want to do some dates? I got a date after.

[Brian Bates]

No, no, do it.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, I got a date after Thanksgiving. I'll be, you know, I'll Go.

[Dusty Slayer]

I got a lot of Christmas parties I'm doing, but December 26th and 27th, I am at Skyline Comedy Club in Appleton, Wisconsin. It's a great club. You guys should try it. Nobody's give me love here.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, I'm doing it the way Skyline's great.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, Skyline.

[Aaron Weber]

The week before you.

[Brian Bates]

We've said that about. But we've talked about Skyland a lot. Yeah, it is a great climate.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah. I actually just got random ones in. Oh, if you want to go there.

[Aaron Weber]

We go next weekend. I'm in. I've never done this club, but I've heard about it. It's Comics Comedy Club at the Mohegan Sun.

[Brian Bates]

It's great.

[Aaron Weber]

Cast Ville or Uncathe Connecticut it.

[Brian Bates]

And then for the first round for a long time. It's a fun one.

[Aaron Weber]

I'm excited about that one. That's for Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and then Sunday. This is a big show for me because I've never done stand up in Philadelphia. I'm doing the Helium Comedy club in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

[Brian Bates]

All right, coming out.

[Aaron Weber]

That's December 7th.

[Brian Bates]

Another great night. That's a great helium.

[Aaron Weber]

So that'll be a fun regional. Come on out and see me.

[Dusty Slayer]

You remember when I did it and the Eagles game went overtime?

[Brian Bates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

I think it's a bot or something with the. There's not an Eagles game.

[Dusty Slayer]

That's good.

[Brian Bates]

Oh, great.

[Aaron Weber]

Pumped.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Yeah, I got a few random ones. I'm being. I'm gonna be in Mexico on December 6th with, like, a bunch of bands. BlackBerry Smoke, few other bands. Should be very fun. I wish I had more details, but it's on my website. It's at Dream Sapphire Resort and Spa. And then I got December 12th, I'm at a casino in Dubuque, Iowa. I got a show at Zany's on the 16th, the 26th. The day after Christmas, I'm in Pocolo, Oklahoma, at a casino. First of the year, Naples, Florida. Off the hook. Boom, boom.

[Aaron Weber]

Happy Thanksgiving, dude.

[Dusty Slayer]

Yeah.

[Nate Borghetzi]

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Brian Bates]

Yeah.

[Aaron Weber]

Happy Thanksgiving, guys.

[Brian Bates]

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Aaron Weber]

I'm thankful for this podcast, dude.

[Brian Bates]

I'm thankful. Thank for all of you that listen and all that.

[Dusty Slayer]

And.

[Nate Borghetzi]

And I'm mainly thankful that Vanderbilt's doing so well. Football in a real unrigged league.

[Brian Bates]

Yep.

[Dusty Slayer]

That was the other episode, Dusty. Who knows?

[Aaron Weber]

Now.

[Brian Bates]

We are thankful for you guys. We. As we said, we are not owed this so from you. So thank you for listening. All right. We love you. We hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving with your family. All right, bye.

[Dusty Slayer]

Sa.

[Nate Borghetzi]

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