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Oh hot hot, hot hot hot. Hot topic. Hello and welcome to the Neuro Spicy
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News Hot Topic Breaking news. It's back Bomb. Yes, it's disappeared for a little bit, but your Hot Topic is back in your feed. And hello to listeners on the Autistic Culture Podcast Network. This is going to be your the Autistic Culture Podcast Network plug, baby. Yeah. We are now part of your listening offering and this is where we're going to bring you some fun news. We sometimes call it new spicy news. It's just hot, hot, hot feeling. Hot hot hot with autism. Here's your news this week.
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I hope you like neuro spicy news because it's hot news. Not because Neuro spicy is what we are, but the news is spicy. Just so you know.
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Too hard. So what's the news this week?
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My friend Tom Hardy, my best friend in my own head and obviously not in real life, is neurodivergent.
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You were simply bored with the autism.
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I was murdered by it. That's a good point. I love Tom Hardy. Big fan. Just when I told Sophie, she was like, this is this Kind of annoys me. But Sophie, I think, is in love with Tom Hardy.
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She was like, oh, yeah, my partner to that list.
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Tom Hardy is the same age as me, and my daughter wants to marry him, and I'm like, harry Styles, and
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he's the same age as me. It's weird in it.
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It is weird. But, yeah, that's not the news.
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But.
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No, no, that isn't the news. The news is Tom Hardy is neurodiver. He. Do you want to tell the story? You tell the story.
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Yes, of course. Well, he revealed publicly at New York Comic Con, almost in passing. He said, it just sounds like I'm on the spectrum because I am. In typical Tom Hardy fashion, he didn't really make a big deal of it. It was been quietly making it count ever since, though, because he has teamed up with a Brazilian jiu jitsu brand, Tatami Fightwear, to promote Outsiders, which is a collection of gi, which is the super cool outfit that they wear. I say uniform, I don't know. I did jiu jitsu, like, three times, and they hurt me and I never went back again.
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You're letting the side down. You're not a jiu jitsu expert. I can't believe this.
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Not even close. Do you know of all. Of all of the things that I am good at, you never bring them up. It's always the things that quite figuratively and literally tapped out of. There was a. A lady in her 50s in Manchester. She beat the crap out of me and I got scared and never went back. But Tom Hardy's been working with outsiders on this collection, which is a full line of jiu jitsu gear celebrating neurodivergenity and autism acceptance. That's rash guards shorts, training kits featuring phrases like zero eye contact, bold, unapologetic, and built for the mats. With proceeds going to autism charities. And Hardy has been asking his followers to recommend which organizations should benefit and
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anyone but the na.
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Yeah, please and thank you. But isn't it brilliant to have somebody is, you know, world renowned as Mr. Tom Hardy? One, casually talking about being neurodivergent, but two, raising awareness and trying to do some good with it?
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I. I think it's phenomenal. I'm. I'm. Like I said, I'm such. Such a fan of. Of everything he's. He's done. Even. Even his, like, cameos in. In Peaky Blinders. I was like, oh, my gosh, you got the autism, have you? Yeah.
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Oh, Tommy Shelby, you've already got the adhd. Oh, yeah. I don't know why I'm doing an impression to Harry Red now, but that's a, that's a deep cut for certain listeners, but you're welcome.
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But yeah, I like, I mean we could just, we could talk about Tom Hardy's films. But I mean, I'm sure everybody knows them. I mean he, he is, he is definitely one of the shining lights of the, of the British film industry. And yeah, he, he definitely represents. But I have to admit it, this is again, no surprise the same as when we found out that Tom Holland also is neurodivergent. It is. And, and Benedict Cumberbatch. I don't know if we're yet to find out about Benedict Cumberbatch, but I'm, I'm telling you now, that dude is well nude at the Virgin. Yeah, I mean, I mean it's just over and over again we just find out and it's because we spend our entire life acting and masking that when it comes to acting in general. And you all know this because you are literally an actor.
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Oh yeah.
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It's just a natural thing to pretend to be someone else.
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Oh, it's easy to pretend to be a character that is to be myself. Sometimes I look in the mirror and I'm like, not today. And I've just, just masked my way through it, baby. And it's quite easy when you get given a script in front of you. You don't have to think about what to say. It's written down in front of you and you can play around and, and create something and not feel too judged. Like acting for me was the thing that I, I wouldn't know where I'd be without it, mate. Honestly, it, it gave me a lot of freedom to figure out who I actually am. It's, it's a very important thing. But this is happening right now with, with Tom Hardy and Tatami fightware post that he put on Instagram but seven days ago of when we were recording, you'll figure that out. The Outsiders Neuro Spicy collection created in collaboration with Tom Hardy. And he's got a picture of him looking hard
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as he does.
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He's a, he's a, he's a fridge freezer of a man. But he's got a very. I actually might buy one of these, you know, it's got a very cool sports top. It's very tight fitting. He's a, it's a muscular man that says neurospicy Rollers club on it. And he says in his post, this range stands for resilience individuality, and using jiu jitsu as a force for good. Available in men's ladies and kids sizes, with all profits donated towards our chosen Autism charities. Every role tells a story, Every purchase makes an impact. And Tom's like, he's my mate. Has commented underneath. For all my team members rolling with the range of the ND community and the wider full spectrum of ND community at large, the. There are so many of us. This is for you with love, kindness, awareness, but mostly love and respect. Thank you. Have a great day, everybody. Oh, he couldn't. He couldn't be any more gorgeous, could he? Yes.
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I mean, I'm not gay, but I could swing.
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I mean, if we were both on a desert island, if he kissed me, I'd probably kiss him back. Yeah. You know, anyway, thanks for that.
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Won't kiss me, but you kiss tomorrow. I see how it is. I get it.
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Dinner. I told you, baby. Dinner.
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A show.
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Dinner and a show.
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Yeah. I haven't got that sort of money.
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Oh, sorry. Yes. Theater's very expensive these days.
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Dinner in a show would be McDonald's and then go. And seeing ducks fight in a park. I'm in. Son of a bitch.
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Son of a bitch. Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in, man. Yeah, but isn't it great, though, that one. Somebody of this profile is talking about it, but then he's also making quite cool clothing as well that I'm probably gonna buy for the gym.
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And, you know, well, it depends on where that money goes. I'll be honest. Yeah, I'm very selective with my charities. If they're neurodivergent run charities, then I'm. I'm mostly. I'm in. Yeah, for sure. But I've had a lot of contact with charities that just loved throwing the puzzle piece around and. Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not gonna talk about the puzzle piece in great detail, but it is. It's not a good symbol we shouldn't be using. It is drenched in. In authoritarianism and treating us like we're broken. It's. It's not a positive thing, but I. I think the world is catching on. So we're not here to talk about charities. We're talking Tom Hardy. My. My friend Tom Hardy.
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I mean, yeah, I agree it's difficult, isn't it, with the whole charity thing, but I just love the fact that, like, Tom Hardy, he. He has access. Right. This is like, I can imagine that some of the people that would be like, oh, you know, he's adhd. Mate, you just need to get a grip. Have you thought about eating your kids? Like, they would be able to look at Tom Hardy and respect what he's doing. You know, like, it gives a bit of access like that. He's a hard man. He's been in movies. He's played like Bane and he's played like Charles Bronson, for Christ's sake.
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Like, he is such a good movie.
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He's a testosterone. He's a man's. Man's actor.
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Right.
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And I feel like him coming out and being open about being neurodivergent and obviously jiu jitsu, very much. Like, it's a bro thing. Right. You know, it's the Joe Rogan sport and things like that. So I feel like him being so open and also supporting a charity. Charity. But he's trying to do a force for change. And I think there will be a lot of people that will change their perception on neurodivergent people, because Tom Hardy's the sort of person that he is in a similar way that we were discussing with, like, Tom Holland. It opens doors to people that may have a prejudice or a bias against what neurodivergence is.
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Do you know what I want to see from Tom Hardy is a freaking documentary about him being neurodivergent. That's the thing is, it's all brilliant when you find out about Tom Holland and. And you find out about all these different Anthony celebrities. Yeah. Anthony Hopkins has denied it now. Yeah. But I, I. Because we. We always talk. We always say, like, autism is like the embarrassing side of being adhd. So if you'd be like, oh, I'm adhd and we can talk about that. And I'm whacking cool and catch. And catch my clothes on doorknobs as I go through, because I'm not checking it properly.
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Yeah.
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But, you know, autism is. Oh, God, I don't really want to tell people about it.
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You were. Didn't it.
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Because of freaking programs like Love on the bloody spectrum. It's. It is always fighting this broken versus different, you know, and. And people are trying to push that broken message, which is why I'm so selective in my charities, which is why I don't like the nas, because that. They started the whole broken thing and now they're trying to fix that. And I'm like, it's too late. You suck.
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Yeah. Horses bolted them for.
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Yeah. They're trying to get in with the community now and they're trying to change. And I'm. And I'm like, no, you guys suck. You, you're like, just, just now you suck. So I, I, I'm, I mean, if anybody ever knows tomato, I'm begging, choose a neurodivergent led charity. Be, be positive change. I mean, you know, in our episode yesterday, we talked to Paul Stevenson, and it was an incredible interview. He's an incredible person. So things like genius within an amazing organization, things like that, where, where they have neurodivergent people representing neurodivergence. And so for me, I mean, I know these people are busy. I know they, they're actors and, you know, they've got all the things they have to do. But it would be amazing for our community if instead of being just like, oh, yeah, I'm on the spectrum, but like, talking about it, doing talks, because you and I, we can talk to the cows, come home and we reach, you know, a thousand, few thousand people. I mean, we. 160,000 downloads now and counting. But that's peanuts compared to what Tom Hardy can, like, reach. He's literally one of the biggest actors in the world. In the world. He is phenomenal. And I just think I would like people like that to be even more involved. And I'm not saying that he's not, and we have no idea what's to come, but it's great that you're making jiu jitsu gear, you know, focused on, on being different, but that we need education. People need education, and, you know, what we're doing is what needs to be done, but we're not reaching. I always felt like I'm not doing enough. I can't do more. Oh, can we have Tom Hardy on the podcast?
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Tom, if you're listening.
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Yeah, Tom Hardy.
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Come on, mate.
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Come on.
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Yeah, we're a vibe, I think.
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Yeah, well, most, most people think, yeah. So Tom Hardy, come on the podcast and we can chat about you being awesome. And probably the reason you're awesome is because you're neurodivergent.
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Yeah, man. I mean, some of the things I've seen him within talk about with interviews as well. I've always felt like I really related to Tom Hardy in a way. Like, I always remember him doing that Jonathan Ross interview where somebody brought up a picture of him that he didn't like, and he literally just flipped him the bird, like, mid interview.
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I was like, yeah, I love that. I just sat there going, like, that's exactly what I would have done. Because I think in that interview, he sort of showed a clip of him on the Big Breakfast.
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Yeah.
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Which was like when, when he was like a model and I think he won a modeling competition on the.
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Yeah.
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And he just, he was so pissed at that because no one told him about it. And it was, it was moments like that I was like, yeah, he's, he's one of us.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Don't like the unexpected.
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Well, there you go. That's, that's your news for this week. Tom Hardy. One of us. One of us. So, yeah, that's been your hot topic for this week. And we'll be back with another one next week with another episode on a Thursday. And I think, I think that's all the housekeeping for today, my friend. I think I've, I've done everything. I'll go and do more zinc research off the back of this now.
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Yeah, that's our next hot topic. How is Jordan on the zinc?
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Yeah, good. We've also got a few more episodes coming up. We're gonna be doing our Reddit stories again as well, so check out your feed for those. We will be back with more episodes. Stay tuned. Take care yourself.
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Bye.
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So what do today's young people need to truly thrive? Tune in to Good Things from Lemonada Media to hear the six part Thrive series.
Hosts: Jordan James and Simon Scott
Date: May 14, 2026
In this “Hot Topic” mini-episode, Jordan and Simon react to the news that acclaimed British actor Tom Hardy has publicly shared that he is neurodivergent. Through a playful yet deeply insightful back-and-forth, they examine the wider significance of high-profile figures like Hardy being open about neurodivergence, the impact on public perception, and the importance of representation and authenticity. The conversation also touches on Hardy’s collaboration with Outsiders and Tatami Fightwear to produce a jiu jitsu gear collection benefitting autism charities, sparking a candid discussion about the complexities of autism charity work and advocacy.
Tom Hardy’s Revelation (03:23)
The Power of Celebrity Disclosure (05:02, 09:47)
Simon notes Hardy’s persona as a "testosterone, man's man" (10:23), highlighting how his openness may challenge stereotypes and broaden acceptance within traditionally less inclusive communities, such as martial arts and action movie fanbases.
Simon: “I feel like him coming out and being open about being neurodivergent—jiu jitsu, very much, like, it’s a bro thing...It opens doors to people that may have a prejudice.”
The hosts are candid about their skepticism towards large or non-autistic-led charities, especially those using the "puzzle piece" symbol, which they find negative and outdated.
Simon: “It is drenched in authoritarianism and treating us like we're broken...The world is catching on.”
They urge celebrities like Hardy to prioritize neurodivergent-led organizations and direct their support to genuine neurodivergent advocacy.
Simon (03:23):
Jordan (06:29):
Simon (05:02):
Simon (09:47):
Jordan (13:02):
Simon (08:15): (Joking admiration)
Jordan (15:17):
Jordan and Simon wrap up by expressing appreciation for Tom Hardy’s honesty, while challenging celebrities to use their influence for deeper change and awareness. They maintain a hopeful, cheeky tone throughout, mixing wit with serious advocacy—a trademark of The Neurodivergent Experience.
For further episodes, check your feed every week for new discussions centered on neurodivergence, identity, and advocacy.