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The Next Level: Aileen Cannon's SCOTUS Audition

Podcast Information:

Title: The Next Level
Host/Authors: Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last (JVL) of The Bulwark
Episode: Aileen Cannon's SCOTUS Audition
Release Date: January 8, 2025
Description: Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last bring their signature political insight and banter to the masses in The Next Level podcast. Tune in to hear them discuss the news of the week, break down campaigns and elections, and wade into pop culture feuds. The Bulwark

Introduction

In this episode of The Next Level, hosts Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last delve into the latest developments surrounding Aileen Cannon’s audition for the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS). While the title focuses on Cannon, the conversation weaves through broader political dynamics, including commentary on former President Donald Trump’s ongoing influence, President Joe Biden’s recent interview, and the implications of Cannon’s legal maneuvers.

Trump’s Continued Influence and its Implications

Jonathan V. Last (JVL) initiates the discussion by highlighting the persistent volatility introduced by Donald Trump’s actions and rhetoric.

Timestamp [00:02]: JVL remarks on waking up to Trump's unpredictable tweets, referencing a recent press conference where Trump suggested alliances with foreign entities like Canada.
Quote: JVL states, “We now wake up every morning wondering what insane thing he tweeted out at 3am this morning.” ([00:02])

Tim Miller and Sarah Longwell express their frustration over the anticipated continued political turbulence due to Trump's influence, contemplating the impact of enduring another four years under his shadow.

Quote (Tim Miller, [01:12]): “I come from a long line of Lebanese that have relatively early deaths. So, you know. Yeah. It’s tough.”

Canadian Reactions and Potential Political Ramifications

The hosts discuss a provocative statement made by a Canadian Member of Parliament regarding Trump’s remarks about annexing Canadian states.

Quote (JVL, [02:19]): “Canadian mp. That was this woman... I think that we should start to pursue Washington and Oregon and California.”

Tim Miller criticizes the possibility of Trump making such moves, emphasizing the absurdity and potential distraction it poses to Congress.

Quote (Tim Miller, [04:50]): “I think there are real tangible potential costs to the type of behavior that he is engaging in.”

Impact on US-International Alliances and Legislative Focus

The conversation shifts to the broader impact of Trump’s distractions on legislative processes and international alliances.

Quote (Tim Miller, [04:50]): “He’s distracting msnbc... like Panama does not have a standing army.”

Sarah Longwell underscores the threat to alliances and the focus required by Congress, pointing out how such distractions hinder progress on critical issues like immigration, taxes, and energy.

Quote (Sarah Longwell, [04:50]): “The weakening of the alliances is just an inevitable consequence of this.”

Aileen Cannon’s SCOTUS Actions and Democratic Response

The core of the episode centers on Judge Aileen Cannon’s recent legal actions and their implications for SCOTUS and broader judicial processes.

Jonathan V. Last (JVL) highlights Cannon’s injunction against Attorney General Merrick Garland’s plans to release the special counsel’s report, questioning the legitimacy and jurisdiction of her actions.

Timestamp [40:37]: JVL states, “Eileen Cannon went and yesterday issued an injunction forbidding Merrick Garland from releasing the report...”
Quote (JVL, [40:37]): “This is the most insane thing. And the reason I wanted to, to bring this up is because this seems to be a case where the Democrats need to understand and learn some lessons.”

Tim Miller criticizes Cannon’s allegiance to Trump, suggesting that her actions are manipulative and detrimental to the integrity of the judiciary.

Quote (Tim Miller, [42:02]): “Trump outsourced the judge process to Leonard Leo and these Federalist Society guys...”

Sarah Longwell predicts Cannon’s continued influence on SCOTUS, despite potential reversals, and emphasizes the necessity for Democrats to counteract her moves effectively.

Quote (Sarah Longwell, [43:27]): “She has single-handedly done so much for Trump...”

President Joe Biden’s Reflective Interview

The discussion also touches on President Biden’s recent interview with USA Today, where he reflects on his administration’s performance and interactions with Trump.

Quote (Tim Miller, [25:27]): “Joe Biden said that he, he thinks that he probably would have won had he stayed in the way in the race.”
Quote (Sarah Longwell, [26:32]): “Joe Biden was not going to win. He was going to... Kamala Harris saved his ass...”

The hosts express disappointment in Biden’s handling of strategic decisions, attributing failures to his leadership and the influence of his administration’s choices.

The Role of Alliances and Democratic Strategy

Tim Miller and Sarah Longwell debate the strategic missteps of the Democratic Party in handling both internal and external political challenges, stressing the need for a more robust opposition to Trump’s maneuvers.

Quote (Sarah Longwell, [26:32]): “Joe Biden was the only person who could have beaten Donald Trump in 2020. I didn’t believe a lot of the slurs against him, but he was always deeply imperfect.”

Distraction from Core Issues and Legislative Consequences

The hosts argue that Trump’s continuous distractions prevent Congress from addressing substantial issues, thereby weakening legislative effectiveness and damaging international partnerships.

Quote (Tim Miller, [04:50]): “If they're focused on Panama, they're not focused on very challenging, complex issues...”

Concluding Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reiterate the importance of strategizing to counteract Trump’s influence and Cannon’s judicial actions. They call for Democrats to engage more effectively in real-time discrediting of Trump’s narratives and to reinforce their legislative priorities without being sidetracked by his antics.

Quote (JVL, [65:27]): “We gotta get big because that's the only way we're gonna push back against all this insanity...”

Notable Quotes Summary

JVL ([00:02]): “We now wake up every morning wondering what insane thing he tweeted out at 3am this morning.”
Tim Miller ([01:12]): “I come from a long line of Lebanese that have relatively early deaths. So, you know. Yeah. It’s tough.”
JVL ([02:19]): “Canadian mp. That was this woman... I think that we should start to pursue Washington and Oregon and California.”
Sarah Longwell ([04:50]): “The weakening of the alliances is just an inevitable consequence of this.”
JVL ([40:37]): “This is the most insane thing. And the reason I wanted to, to bring this up is because this seems to be a case where the Democrats need to understand and learn some lessons.”
Sarah Longwell ([43:27]): “She has single-handedly done so much for Trump...”
JVL ([65:27]): “We gotta get big because that's the only way we're gonna push back against all this insanity...”

Conclusion

The episode provides a comprehensive analysis of Aileen Cannon’s recent actions concerning SCOTUS, intertwined with broader political discourse on Trump’s enduring influence and Biden’s leadership challenges. The hosts emphasize the necessity for Democrats to remain vigilant and proactive in addressing judicial maneuvers that could undermine democratic institutions, all while navigating the distractions introduced by high-profile political figures.

Note: Advertisements and non-content segments from the transcript have been omitted to focus solely on the substantive discussions and analyses presented by the hosts.

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Transcript

JVL (0:02)

Hello, everyone. This is JVL here with my best friends Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of the Bulwark. The Trump show is back. We have to do this again. We. We now wake up every morning wondering what insane thing he tweeted out at 3am this morning. I believe it was a map of North America, just all tan, saying, you America in it. Like, no, Canada and awesome. We had his press conference where he talked about. Yeah, the reason Zuckerberg is being nice to him is probably because he threatened him. I. Tim, how are we supposed to go through four years, at least of this? Because I get to say I'm having those thoughts of, wait a minute, four years? I mean, yeah, I'm 50. I've got like 50 years left. That is. That's. Yeah, four years is an appreciation. That's like 8% of my remaining life.

Tim Miller (1:12)

Yeah. That I have to live, like, more than that, probably. For me, I have. I come from a long line of Lebanese that have relatively early deaths. So, you know. Yeah, it's tough. I mean, I think I said this on a very. I forget if it was on you, with you or with Lovett. In one of the email episodes after the election where I was like, this man is taking the prime years of my life from me. Like, I don't want to think about him.

JVL (1:36)

The best years of my life. Yeah.

Tim Miller (1:39)

So we're gonna do it together is how we're gonna do it is the answer to that question. We're just gonna do it together. And some days we're gonna be like, fuck it. Nope, I'm not gonna do this today. And other days we're gonna do it. And today's one of the days we're gonna do it. You know, the States thing, the Canada thing. I did get a kick out of the Canadian mp. That was this woman. I don't have her name in front of me, but she was like, you know what? I don't know. I think that we should start to pursue Washington and Oregon and California.

JVL (2:18)

Yeah.

Tim Miller (2:19)

You know, I think that, like, why not? Like, okay, we're doing. Are we doing a deal? Are we doing a deal, Mr. Trump? Let's do it. Let's have a. Let's meet in Ottawa. Let's talk it. Let's talk it through. You want to do a deal? Let's call your bluff on this. All right, you want Toronto? Am I in San Francisco?

JVL (2:33)

You guys can have back to being pain in the ass. And we'll take California and glib.

Tim Miller (2:39)

We should shout out our friends. My. The producer on the show, Katie Cooper's in California with the fires in L. A. It's fucking awful. But. So I guess maybe this is one of those things where you don't call Trump's bluff because he's like, I don't know, maybe I get. Maybe I get rid of these blue states. Not that. Not that the Canadians are going to be voting for him again, but I don't. I guess he's not planning on running for reelection. So. I don't know, man. I mean, the press conference was insane. I think in the spirit of what all of our New Year's resolutions were of, of caring about the important things, of focusing on the important things, I think the way to dissect this is, you know, I. I think that there are real tangible potential costs to the type of behavior that he is engaging in. I think it is going to distract the Congress. Like we always talk about distracting us. Trump's distracting us. He's distracting msnbc. It kind of doesn't really matter whether he's distracting you, listener of the podcast. Like, you can get distracted or not. It's your call. It does matter if he's distracting the House of Representatives, where he's going to need to get Stu passed. One of them sent out a tweet about the Don Row doctrine and then had to delete it already. If they're focused on Panama, they're not focused on very challenging, complex issues they have in front of them about immigration and taxes and energy, which I talked about on the daily pod today. So I think that's one thing. And two, I just. Our alliances, we can't predict what actually the impact of this will be. But, like, the weakening of the alliances is just an inevitable consequence of this. Like, if you're Panama. Panama does not have a standing army. Right? Like, they do not. This is not the kind of country that, like, looks at this kindly. Like, they. They are part of a wet. The. Of a secure Western alliance where they didn't have to, like, think that they had to deal with this sort of stuff. Panama is going to have real domestic things. They might have to reconsider things such as that. Like, they got rid of their standing army after a coup, you know, Denmark, they're like, you're really going to tariff us, right? Like, I've got this threat of Russia from the other side, you know, where we're bringing Scandinavian countries into NATO, and now I've got to worry about the American guy tariffing me. I just think that there are also some real consequences to this in Addition to kind of the silliness of it. Sarah, what do you think?

Tim Miller (9:13)

I have just a couple things on this. Just one is just a factual matter about the D.C. constitutional people. Yeah. You could just make Washington D.C. just the Mall. All right. And have all the people that live around that have it, have a state. So, so just. You could, you can't. It isn't really in the Constitution. Like, you could just make the Capitol and the White House and then the mall, the, the D.C. of the Constitution. So you could make D.C. a state. And you should. As for this question about, like, the Seriousness, I think another important thing to layer into this, not to make conversation about Gulf of America sound high minded or whatever, sound important or have some higher and greater purpose because, you know, some of this stuff is just what it is. But like the, the group of people that Trump did well with. Right. The only material they're consuming is Trump wants to take over Greenland and make Canada the 51st state. That's the only thing they hear. If you look at the David Shore did this data and how Democrats actually improved with people who. I forget what the bar was, but there's a certain level of engagement in the news and reading the news, Democrats actually improved with that group, the highest, most engaged voters. And Trump made massive gains with people that aren't paying attention at all. So this idea that, oh, it's a distraction to talk about this and you should be focused on the real thing. Okay, sure, there are a lot of real things. There's a whole podcast today about reconciliation and folks can listen to that. But for a political purpose, the Democrats need to compete on his turf for attention. Eyeballs. They've tried the process of letting Trump do crazy stuff and be all over the Nelk boys and Access Hollywood, all this sort of casual shit on TikTok while they gave serious speeches about democracy. We saw how that worked. So nobody's exactly had to figure it out how to successfully do the asymmetric warfare back. We've been mentioning the Canadian lady as an idea of something that she did that was kind of funny. So it also isn't nothing to talk about this in the political context. The only thing that the people that, that the maga hat people, you know, who are the casuals are seeing is the silly shit, and so the silly shit is the real shit for them.

Sarah Longwell (16:36)

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Sarah Longwell (26:32)

Actually, I want to start with not just what this says about, because, like, Joe Biden was not going to win. He was going to. Kamala Harris saved his ass from getting absolutely annihilated and also taking the many more senators and many more House members down with him. She pulled his ass out of the fire. And how dare he, how dare he suggest that, that it's, it's on her. He would have won he would have won, not her. Let me tell you what this guy lives. And I'm sorry he does it because he is too old and too addled and too narcissistic to realize what a disaster he was being. And JBL, I'm sorry, you're going to catch Mr. Apneal here because you just mentioned Fetterman and Joe Biden. People that. But like, you should never lionize politicians. There are people that I like, there are people that I think are good, and there are people that I'm going to support because I think they are. But like the way like Joe Biden. Absolutely. His legacy is that all his talk for democracy. He didn't do the one thing that had to be done to actually help save democracy and keep Donald Trump out of office, which was after 2022. He had to walk away. So far, so good, him saying he, of course, have you listen, do you know what? You know who he beat? He beat Medicare. That's who he beat. Go back, guys. You want to get mad at me or any of us for talking about Joe Biden? And I'll say, to be clear, this is probably the last time we talk about Joe Biden, but I'm going to get this off my chest before it's the last time we talk about Joe Biden. We got four years to talk about Donald Trump. So if anybody wants to be like, I can't believe you would talk about Joe Biden when there's all this stuff for Donald Trump. Yeah, he sat down and he said a bunch of things that are lies and that are delusional. And. And I think that really reflect how devastating his decision making was. And I do think that it's important to condemn the people around him who let him go on with this delusion. And they didn't do the best thing for the country because the best thing for the country was him walking away after 2022 and letting his party have a primary like Justin Trudeau is doing right now in Canada.

JVL (35:34)

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Tim Miller (50:50)

Well, that seem like meetings, conversations, pitches, you know, whatever. I just like, I'm around rich people now sometimes I'm not one of them, sadly, but we're doing our best. One thing that you notice is there's no amount of money that protects you from the weaknesses of the ego and the, the desire to not be criticized. You know, like, there is no. Like I would have thought, like, for example, Trump. There was a theory of Trump in 2016 that I think, I never thought he was going to grow into the presidency, but there was a theory that like he had this hole in his heart, his daddy didn't hug him, he becomes the most powerful man in the world and he doesn't really need to do all this stuff anymore. He's not going to become serious or whatever, but he could just enjoy the accoutrement of the office and enjoy his victory over all his foes and anyone who ever slighted him and anyone from Manhattan that didn't invite him to a party, Right. And that he would get over it, you know, and that he would feel satisfied and fulfilled. Obviously that did not come to pass. There is that with Bezos and Zuck and Musk too, right? That it's like, why are these guys so prickly? You know, like you could imagine. I would have imagined a world where I would have thought they would have been very self satisfied and like, there'd be other issues. You'd be in a bubble and you'd be, you know, you'd be able. But like, you wouldn't really. I don't really care what these, these peons can make fun of me if they want or do memes about me or whatever, but who cares? They lost. I won. I got the big boat, I got the big house. I can do whatever I want. Fuck you. Okay? Like, I would, I would think that would be, would have been me if life had taken that turn, but that actually appears not to be the case. And these guys are all very sensitive to criticism and they're very sensitive little flowers and that I think that Charlie's point, the thing that he was able to bring to it, being a tech reporter and experiencing the pushback from Facebook flacks and such, is like, these guys actually get really annoyed by Casey Newton and Kara and Charlie and whatever. They get very annoyed that their friends send them an article. They're like, look at this mean thing that Somebody said to you on Substack. And I do think whether that not radical, but like, so is it red pilled? Like, depends what you mean by red pilled. Right. I think it's red pilled in the sense that it's like these liberal school moms are annoying me and saying mean things about me and so fuck them. I'm going to throw in with the racists. Like, I think that there is something to that for sure. And that is as much of a motivator for these big tech oligarch guys as the just like money. Because they already have a lot of money.

Sarah Longwell (54:06)

Yeah. I mean, I was trying to do this yesterday with you when we were talking. Like, I had a kind of Charlie Wartle take on the. With JBL yesterday, which is like, you know, why is he moving from California to Texas? And I was like, okay, well there's. There's both things are happening. On one hand, he's like, I'm sick of people in California telling me I gotta do this, that and this as part of the business regulation. Texas is a much more hospitable environment. But also I've been trying to sort of satisfy what feels like unsatisfiable liberals, both from like a regulatory standpoint but also a cultural standpoint. And he's like, instead, I can satisfy not Republicans exactly, but red pill types by, let's say, masking it. And this is my current pet peeve because I might be sympathetic to the annoyances of the left. And I think JBL has always, in jbl, my ongoing conversations, conversation about why is this all happening? I think he's always underplayed or under understood how much of this is because the most annoying liberal and everybody. When people's lives are like the thing that they vote against and the thing that repels them, the person who tells them, they're like, you get told you're sexist all the time for things that you're like, don't feel sexist. And then you're like, well, why don't I just be sexist? Quick aside, Elon's algorithm is insane and is putting insane things into my feed. And I'm trying not to be on Twitter too much, but I saw something yesterday by a guy named Jason Whitlock who I've no, I'm suddenly I looked. I watched one video, I read. I read one court filing about this Joy person on the Fox Sports and I read one thing and so then it just started feeding to me. And so I started getting all this like, sports stuff. And I got this thing from this guy, Jason Whitlock, where. And I watched the whole thing. Why? I don't know. This is why. How we get poisoned. And it's about him being like, they brought me this joy person to test for a screen thing, but she had these big cans and this peanut butter skin. And how was I expected to work with her? And I just said, I don't have the self control. And I was like, this guy right now we have moved into a world, an environment where he's like, I just got to keep it real with you guys. Just got to tell you the truth. And all the comments are like, way to keep it real, bro. Yeah, way to tell us. And so we live in a world where men now are like, you know what? I just gotta tell you guys, I actually can't be a professional in the presence of an attractive woman. Can't do it. Don't expect me to do it. How culturally could you expect me to do it? I can't be a professional. And, and so that is happening in our culture. And so, and that I was like horrified. And I, if I, I, I stopped myself from going and tried to learn the whole thing and figure out who all these players are. Cause I was like, you don't really want to know. But I was.