Podcast Summary: "Live from Pittsburgh!" on The Next Level
Date Released: October 20, 2024
Host/Authors: Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last
Podcast: The Next Level by The Bulwark
1. Introduction and Setting the Stage
The episode begins with the hosts engaging in their characteristic banter, setting a lively and personable tone for the discussion. Jonathan V. Last (JVL) jokes about finding a place to sit, while Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller respond humorously about managing the live setup ([00:11] - [00:54]). This lighthearted exchange quickly transitions into serious political discourse as they welcome listeners to Pittsburgh and dive into the week's pressing political issues.
2. Donald Trump’s Campaign Dynamics and Nikki Haley
Sarah Longwell introduces a critical discussion on Donald Trump's campaign strategies, particularly his relationship with Nikki Haley. She references a "fantastic rant" by colleague Andrew Egger, highlighting concerns that Trump's decision not to utilize Nikki Haley might hinder his electoral prospects. Longwell notes, “So let's not give any good advice tonight to the Trump campaign” ([01:00]).
Tim Miller echoes the skepticism surrounding Trump’s endorsement choices, mentioning Trump’s dismissive remarks about Nikki Haley on Fox and Friends, stating, “he’s like, she sucks” ([01:56]). JVL adds insight into Trump’s alignment issues, questioning his support for certain campaign figures over Haley ([02:14]).
3. RFK Jr.'s Rising Favorability and Media Scrutiny
The conversation shifts to RFK Jr., whose favorability ratings have unexpectedly surpassed notable figures like Kamala Harris and even Taylor Swift according to recent polls. Sarah Longwell observes, “his favorables higher than Trump, you know, higher than Harris” ([02:33]). However, Tim Miller offers a counterpoint, mentioning that favorability tends to increase once a candidate exits the race, suggesting that RFK Jr.'s surge might not be as alarming as it seems ([03:34]).
JVL contributes by sharing an unusual video of RFK Jr. discouraging vaccinations, illustrating the polarizing and unconventional stances that may be driving his popularity ([03:34] - [04:19]).
4. Trump's Erratic Behavior Potentially Undermining His Campaign
The hosts delve into concerns raised by a New York Times article highlighting fears among Trump’s allies about his return to erratic behavior, which could jeopardize his election chances. JVL cites the article: “those close to Trump are privately worried that the former president is returning to his usual ways in the final days of the campaign” ([05:16]).
Tim Miller criticizes the New York Times for inadequately addressing the complexities of Trump’s influence, arguing that Republicans are struggling to manage Trump's unpredictable nature ([05:04] - [07:35]). He elaborates on how Trump's alliance with controversial figures like RFK Jr. exemplifies the broader issues within the current political landscape ([06:13] - [07:35]).
5. Criticism of Republican Donors: Gordon Sondland and Paul Singer
A significant portion of the discussion targets Republican donors such as Gordon Sondland and Paul Singer, critiquing their unwavering support for Trump despite his controversial actions. JVL expresses frustration over Sondland's financial contributions to Trump, referencing his role in the impeachment and subsequent behavior ([18:01] - [20:32]).
Tim Miller highlights the transactional nature of these donors, questioning their motives and the ethical implications of their support: “They just want grift because he's a transactional person” ([20:32]). The hosts discuss how these donors prioritize personal gain and access over the integrity of the political process ([21:11] - [23:05]).
6. The Influence of the Billionaire Class in Politics
The conversation extends to the broader influence of wealthy individuals in the Republican Party. Sarah Longwell references Susan Glasser's New Yorker piece on billionaires reclaiming support for Trump, illustrating a trend of financial elites throwing their weight behind him despite personal reservations ([12:03] - [17:18]).
JVL and Tim Miller further dissect the motivations of billionaires like Mark Cuban and Reid Hoffman, who support policies they believe protect democracy, contrasted with their financial contributions to Trump ([16:23] - [21:24]). The hosts criticize the prioritization of personal wealth and influence over national well-being ([21:24] - [28:13]).
7. The Al Smith Dinner and Political Fundraising
Sarah Longwell introduces the topic of the Al Smith Dinner, a traditional fundraiser in New York where major party candidates interact post-debate. She describes it as a “lighthearted comedy moment” that should foster unity but instead showcases problematic support for authoritarian figures ([35:51] - [37:10]).
The hosts lament the normalization of Trump’s divisive presence at such events, highlighting how even influential Democrats like Chuck Schumer participate without challenging Trump's ideology ([36:09] - [38:25]). They argue that these gatherings inadvertently bolster Trump's standing in the political arena ([37:10] - [39:43]).
8. Electoral College Concerns and Implications
A critical discussion ensues regarding the Electoral College system and its impact on reflecting the popular vote. Sarah Longwell raises the concern that Kamala Harris could win the presidency without securing a majority of the popular vote, a scenario unprecedented in modern elections: “that puts her at 50.5. Like she'll have a flat majority of the country voting for her” ([50:13]).
JVL and Tim Miller express frustration over the Electoral College's ability to potentially disregard the popular will, emphasizing the need for reform to better represent the electorate's intentions ([50:46] - [53:17]).
9. Strategic Path to Victory: Focus on Pennsylvania and Key States
Tim Miller outlines a strategic focus on swing states crucial for securing the presidency, specifically Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nebraska. He emphasizes Pennsylvania as the "ballgame" state due to its undecided voters and historical significance in elections ([53:01] - [58:43]).
JVL and Sarah Longwell discuss the importance of targeting moderate and independent voters who may swing in favor of Harris, leveraging the demographic advantages of women voters who are likely to support her over Trump ([56:13] - [58:43]).
10. Emotional Impact and Call to Action
The hosts openly discuss the emotional toll the election is taking on them and their listeners. JVL shares his frustration and anger towards the political dynamics, advocating for decisive action to prevent another Trump presidency: “The moment to stop him is now. It's right now, right this second” ([26:36] - [35:25]).
Sarah Longwell urges listeners to actively engage in the political process by contacting undecided voters and mobilizing support in key states, emphasizing the importance of collective effort to influence the election outcome ([58:21] - [58:56]).
Tim Miller reinforces the urgency, encouraging listeners to “call everyone you know. Call the people who are soft Republicans” and highlights the critical role of grassroots campaigning in securing victory ([58:15] - [58:56]).
Notable Quotes
- Jonathan V. Last (JVL): “Can we read the exact quote?” ([05:16])
- Sarah Longwell: “we have to do something to, like, shake people and say, is this a thing that you want?” ([10:04])
- Tim Miller: “We are sleepwalking into an autocracy” ([10:57])
- JVL: “They just want access.” ([23:41])
- Sarah Longwell: “You cannot roll up your sleeves if you are wringing your hands.” ([58:09])
- Tim Miller: “You have to do something to, like, shake people and say, is this a thing that you want?” ([10:04])
Conclusion
In this intense and emotionally charged episode, The Next Level hosts dissect the complexities of the current political landscape, focusing on Donald Trump’s campaign strategies, the unexpected rise of RFK Jr., and the troubling influence of billionaire donors within the Republican Party. They express deep concerns about the integrity of the Electoral College system and mobilize listeners to engage actively in pivotal swing states, particularly Pennsylvania. The episode blends insightful political analysis with a heartfelt call to action, urging listeners to contribute to the democratic process amidst mounting anxieties about the future of American politics.
For those who missed the episode, "Live from Pittsburgh!" offers a comprehensive examination of the critical factors shaping the 2024 election, providing listeners with a blend of analytical depth and passionate advocacy for democratic engagement.