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Spirits at Sunset Strip - Part III
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In this episode, the team returns to the Sunset Strip Comedy Club, located in the heart of Austin’s vibrant 6th Street, to continue their investigation into the strange and unsettling occurrences plaguing this historic building. After hearing chilling stories from both staff and patrons, and diving into the investigation back in September, they’re back now to uncover what might be haunting this space—and what truths are still lurking in the shadows. In Part I, staff and patrons shared eerie experiences — voices calling their names, dimmer switches flickering on their own, and strange energy around the back office and stairwell. One employee even described shadowy figures rushing at him when he opened the café alone one morning. These unsettling accounts left the team with more questions than answers. In Part II, the team, including psychic medium Jeffery, investigated the building. He validated some of the staff’s experiences, like the disembodied voices and names being called. But...
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The Night owl Podcast Episode 56 Spirits at Sunset Strip Part 3 welcome to the Night Owl Podcast. I'm your host, Stephen Ballew, and this is a place for all you restless spirits out there to tune in and hear true tales of the paranormal. I hunt these stories down, capture them from the mouths of those who've experienced them, and share them with you right here. We're currently looking for more personal ghost stories or haunted locations, so if you or someone you know has one, please submit it to us. For consideration, go to thenight owlpodcast.com Click on the Submit yout Story page and let us hear your ghost story. In this episode, the team and I are returning to the Sunset Strip Comedy Club, located in the heart of Austin's vibrant 6th street, to continue our investigation into the strange and unsettling occurrences plaguing this historic building. After hearing chilling stories from both staff and patrons and and then diving into the investigation back in September, we're back now to uncover what might be haunting this space and what truths are still lurking in the shadows. In part one, staff and patrons shared their eerie experiences. Voices calling their names, dimmer switches moving on their own, and strange energy around the back office and stairwell. One employee even described shadow figures rushing him when he opened the cafe alone one morning. These unsettling accounts left us with more questions than answers. In part two, my team, including psychic medium Jeffrey, joined me to investigate this building. He validated some of the staff's experiences, like the disembodied voices and the names being called. But he also introduced a new spirit named Hank. Even though no one had reported this energy before, to our surprise, Jeffrey didn't pick up on the heavy, oppressive energy around the back stairwell. Nor did any of the mystery of J. Waller Stevens Jr. S suicide by Lysol and Justin come to light. With these lingering questions still haunting us, the team and I are diving back in, determined to get to the bottom of what's truly hiding within the walls of Sunset Strip Comedy Club. But this time, we're bringing an additional psychic medium, Kate the Brave. Stay tuned. When we last left off, I was deep in the heart of investigating the Sunset Strip Comedy Club with my team. We were still trying to piece together the paranormal puzzle of this historic Austin venue. And as things unfolded, I was continuously surprised by what we were discovering. Jeffrey, our psychic medium, had been picking up on some serious activity. And while he identified a more friendly stagehand like energy, it wasn't until later that night that the investigation really took an unexpected turn. This energy or male presence he was calling. Hank was someone from a more modern time and seemed to be a helper or someone who wanted to be a part of the show. I had a phone number for a person named Lindsay who lived in Missouri. And when I made a call that night to hear her testimony, I was shocked to hear that she had also experienced this stagehand. I'm going to pick up where we left off in the last episode, so if you have not heard the previous episodes, do not continue because you will be very lost in the conversation. Lindsay had told me that she'd experienced the presence on the back stairwell. However, at the end of our call, she surprisingly had a calling to express something else that she experienced, and that's when she brought up the stagehand. We'll be jumping right back in, into that phone call right here.
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B
It's the. Okay, so it's the weirdest thing because it's been nagging at me, and I feel like I have to tell you it right now. If I don't tell you, it's going to keep nagging at me and I'm going to have to text it later. So maybe I should say one more thing. So, one. One more thing that I. It's. It's telling me to tell you this, and I don't know why, because it's the dumbest thing. But while I was on stage, I felt someone in the audience who wasn't there, but also I felt someone specifically on the stage. Now I'm getting goosebumps. I felt someone on the stage with me who wasn't there. And I. Like, I seriously was not going to say this because it wasn't. It wasn't anything that was, like, super significant, but it was. Hopefully, you understand what I'm saying. There was a presence there on stage and in the audience when I was performing. And I don't know if anybody else has said the same thing, but it was. It was the weirdest thing. It's so weird that I didn't even want to say it.
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C
That's okay. Let me ask you. Let me ask you a little bit more about that, because that is. That might be relevant for what we picked up today with my psychic, so.
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B
Oh, good.
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C
The person in the audience, was it the same that then came on stage with you, or was it two different energies?
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B
I believe that it was two separate people, and I don't think they were the same. The energy and presence that was on the stage with me felt like someone who was there to do a job. And the energy in the audience felt like someone who was there to have fun. It was distinctively different.
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C
Were you getting any. And this is. Okay, if you didn't, please don't answer if you don't feel it. But were there genders to those energies at all that you felt?
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B
Honestly, both of the energies felt male. They. Both of the energies, both on and off stage, felt masculine.
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C
This is going to raise your hair. The most prominent energy he felt was a male who worked the stage there. And he did help with shows and he said he still helps to this day. That's not something that no one I've interviewed and the owners. This is not the stories. So that's really fascinating that two sensitive people have picked up the same exact thing. And you might have been getting that today because. Yeah, we were picking it up. So what my psychic got. And again, I'm going to reveal a little bit more here. He said this was a. This was like a guy who loved the space more when it was maybe possibly to do with music. And see, what's crazy is this was a music venue for most of. And this is a guy that he felt was not ancient, not like, not like from the twenties, not from the old century. It was like, yeah, maybe 80s, 90s even, maybe later. You know, he's like, this is not like an old timey spirit. He was familiar with sound equipment, with music equipment and things like that. And this was a place called the Parish in Austin. And it was one of the most prominent music venues on 6th Street.
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B
Did the paranormal investigator find that the stagehand liked to hang out in the area, you know, the. The back doorway where you go through this, like through the green room into. Onto the stage. But there's like a doorway that you have to go through in a curtain and you go through that area. I felt something there too.
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C
So right to the left when you go through the door and in your. In the backstage area now? Yeah, if you're in the green room. Yeah, sorry. No, it's not in the green room when you go through that door to get on the stage. But there's sort of like a little bit of a backstage area. Yes, there's a room and he hides there.
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B
Oh, that would make sense.
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C
He kind of. He kind of gets away and just kind of recharges. And what I have found is that where there's electrical equipment, spirits tend to like to gravitate toward those areas because they can actually power up and they can actually manifest or make noise or move things more when they can get that sort of energy off of our devices. And Right there is where all the power for the stage is.
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A
Lindsay's partner, Jake, was with her on both visits to Sunset Strip, and he also had some unique experiences to share. I had a long phone call with him as well, which I recorded, but for sake of time, I need to summarize what was shared. I'll be sure to include Jake's full interview on Patreon, so if you'd like to hear all of that, you can find it on our Patreon page. In his call, Jake described feeling a childlike, innocent energy coming up the front stairwell, which stood in stark contrast to the other reports of darker, more oppressive energies on the back stairwell. This feeling he had on the front stairwell was entirely new, something no one else had mentioned before. However, Jake also experienced the same oppressive, unwelcome energy on the back stairwell that others had reported. He described that as he descended the back stairwell, he could feel the energy intensifying. And by the time he reached the bottom, it became much angrier. When he returned upstairs, all of the uncomfortable feelings dissipated. When asked if he could identify a gender for that energy, Jake confirmed that he felt it was an angry male presence. Apparently, Jake never found out what was on the second floor, so I informed him that it was, in fact, a hidden speakeasy. At the time, Jake shared his final thoughts with me here.
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C
Yeah, and that's kind of. That's why I said it was a very strange energy. Like there was angry. It was like it didn't want me.
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B
To go down there.
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C
And that kind of makes me feel a little more validated, knowing that there was like, a speakeasy down. Down the stairs. Because that's kind of how I felt, like I wasn't supposed to be down there. I wasn't supposed to find it. You know, if they had illegal activity down there, they. I don't know, like, they picked up on my energy, I picked up on theirs, but they. It did not want me there, and it tried everything it could to not let me go down in that stairwell.
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B
Probably wanted me to go down there.
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C
And commit illegal activity.
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B
Come down here, lady.
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Strangely, Lindsay mentioned feeling sort of an opposite energy when she encountered a male presence pulling her back down the stairwell. A stark contrast to staff reports who felt they were feeling unwelcome. During our previous visit, we heard numerous women pleading for help through the Estes Method. Staff member Philip was so unnerved by a woman crying out, please. On the stairwell that he had to stop the experiment. Given the building's proximity to Austin's former red light District and its active role during Prohibition. We speculate that hidden undocumented activities could be lingering in the building's past. Lindsay's pole dancing performance that night, with its erotic nature, might have led a presence that could have had ties to this potentially more seedy past to interact with her in such a way. Following all that I'd uncovered in our first investigation and this call, I was eager to return to Sunset Strip. Finally, on Sunday, November 10, we actually got the chance. This time, not only would we bring Jeffrey back with us, but Kate the Brave, our psychic friend from San Antonio, would join us for her third case with the team. We arrived just before 11am Owner Christina from Sunset Strip let us in, and Jeffrey was the only investigative team member with me at the moment. Alexis and Franklin were going to be unavailable to attend today. Devin and Tristan, my event coordinators, were on hand to help with logistics and to escort Kate to the building when she arrived downtown, Kate remained completely uninformed about the case details or location. But while we waited for Kate, I sent Jeffrey on a walkthrough to see if he was picking up on anything new and to give me a quick update before she arrived.
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D
Now, I'm wondering the people that work here, if anybody's been like. I mean, obviously when stuff happens, it's spooky. You know, it's. It's weird. But I get the feeling now that someone at least once was like, really, like, frightened. Like, really frightened. Not just like, you know, freaked out a little bit because they heard a noise, but, like, frightened like they weren't alone or something. You know that kind of feeling.
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Yeah.
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D
Like somebody's going to get me. That kind of a thing.
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A
Yeah.
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D
And then it's when I'm seeing that shadowy thing in that little room where, you know, that I thought the Hank guy likes to rest. But it's like, it's. It's small. It's like this. It's a shadow, right?
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A
Yeah.
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D
And it's like. But it's mean. But then other times, and I think it may be intimidated by Hank. I don't think Hank's afraid of it, but I think it's darting around, you know, doing stuff. I think it's the one that's going boo. And messing with the electricity and stuff like that. In fact, parts of the. If I. That, like, if it was like an outline, I'll draw a picture of it. Parts of it are jagged, almost, like it's almost made of electricity or something, which I'm sure is just symbolic, but. But it gets down really small and hides. And then like when someone's here alone, it got bigger. Almost like it was feeding. Feeding on their fear or something.
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A
But it.
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D
It's one of those, like, I'm afraid someone's gonna get me. Kind of a fear that someone was experiencing. Not just like, what was that? You know, or did I see a guy?
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A
It was. You know what I mean? I mean.
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D
It almost like got into somebody's head or something. And it really enjoyed that. So there's just this meanness to it. I'm not going to use the D word. I don't think it's that. I just think it's a bad spirit.
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E
But.
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D
And it's not the thing I see in the mirror. I'm not sure what that is.
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A
Yeah, it's different from that one. Okay.
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E
Yeah.
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D
Although that's a shadow figure. But it's got soft edges and everything. This is like. Got hard edges and it's very, very. Even in the dark, you can still see it. It's that black. It likes to be creepy. I mean, it's showing me it crawling across the ceiling, you know, trying to scare me kind of thing. I'm not scared.
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Yeah. The incident Jeffrey was describing and an employee being absolutely terrified 100% aligned with the experience that Philip had the morning he opened the coffee bar alone.
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D
Zipping around, but see how it bunches up like a little totey thing sitting in the corner, like in that room. Or like, you know, boo from behind, but it's behind people, you know, not in front of them. But it's also the thing that's just like.
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A
It's faster. Yeah.
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D
It likes to zip around and it likes the electricity. But you know, again, I keep. And I don't know if it was a man or what I want to say. Maybe it was a woman, but somebody that just felt like they were going to die or something. It was that scary, that overwhelmed.
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A
There was that there was an incident like that for sure. Okay.
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D
Yeah. Cuz again, it's not just like a jump scare. It's like this. So whatever it got to them was like feeding off of it. It hit their spot. You know what I mean? It's just mean. Yeah, it's just mean.
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A
I knew Christina might want to hear the validation Jeffrey was making with the incident that sounded like Philip's experience. But Jeffrey continued to share with her how this same shadow figure was tied to electric issues.
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D
I started getting thinking about maybe, I don't know, the lights are flashing or the. The settings on the light board are messed up when they've been set, it likes to zip back and forth. It likes the lights and the electricity. It likes to hide over in that little electrics room, you know, behind the stage, like hunkers down and hides in there. It's just very mean. It's like this mean, ugly shadow.
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Jeffrey also noted that the spot where Hank liked to recharge was the same area where the shadow figures seemed to hide. What's intriguing is that during Lindsay's phone call, she pointed out the very same control room, though she wasn't sure if it was the stagehand presence or something else that she felt in that space. So it's possible that she might have been sensing the shadow energy backstage as well. But at this point, Christina wanted to validate something else that Jeffrey had mentioned.
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F
Our AV guy. Sometimes the lights will just. They'll just be so baffled of why all of a sudden a light went off or one of the wash lights will flicker during a set.
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A
If you can recall, we'd heard reports about the actual dimmer switches and the light on the back stairwell having some strange activity. But Christina was sharing now that there was also lighting issues on the stage as well. At this point, Kate had arrived and was downstairs. Jeffrey was going to stay separate and not interact with Kate until she'd completed her first full walkthrough and. And shared that with me. So I got Kate upstairs. Jeffrey was going to sit away and continue to sketch and take notes out of earshot from us. The whole time, Tristan would be keeping him company while Devin and Christina would follow along with us. So, yeah, this is a comedy club, and this is the main audience, you know, auditorium area, bar, sound booth. And then I'll take you to all the rooms real quick. I'm going to do a super fast walkthrough to show her all the areas that we can go. I'm going to show her the bathrooms, the stairwell, the green room, all those good things. And take your time if you need to stop. Okay, this is the back green room area. That's the area to the back stairwell.
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E
Oh, can I open to you? Oh.
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A
Kate was immediately drawn to the back stairwell.
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E
And then. Does this go out to the street down here?
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A
It does, I think. Right, Go up to the street.
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E
It looks like it does. What's on around the corner? Just the back of the building.
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A
No, there's something. And I think we can possibly get to it slightly. I don't know if we can get to it.
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E
I just want to pee back there. At least for now.
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A
Yeah, careful. Stairs so this is a speakeasy, I think. Fairly recently converted to a speakeasy. Right.
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E
But they're not connected. They're two separate places.
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A
They're the same building, but are you interested?
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E
Different.
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F
Different business.
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E
Business, yeah. That's how it feels.
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F
So there's three businesses. There's us in the third, this in the second, and then on the lower.
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A
Level, there's a chicken. Chicken Fried chicken place.
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E
Okay. A lot of things happen here. And then come up the stairs, and they bring it up there. So it's like a very up and down the building. It doesn't necessarily feel related to your specific business. It feels more down here. And then they come up, is how it feels. But that's without looking over there. But you can feel it's almost like, too, like, I bet if you go around that corner, there's, like, the bar right there.
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A
You can still do it. Yeah. They've let us come over here and do something.
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E
Okay. Okay. See? Because I see. Yeah. They're, like, hiding down there is how it feels. They, like, hide down there and, like, I see him, like, peek around the.
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F
Corner and, like, run around.
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E
That's how I feel. It's that. It's. It's right in there.
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A
It's in there.
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E
Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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E
This is interesting, too.
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A
Yeah. This is the. Directly under the stairs. I don't know. Oh, it doesn't open. That's a bathroom, but it's directly under that staircase.
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E
Okay. Interesting.
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A
Kate was picking up some energy down here that was, in fact, traveling up to Sunset Strip via the back stairwell. She felt a presence behind the small bar, which was. Was directly beside the bathroom under the stairs, which, if you recall, was rumored to be the space that John Waller Stevens Jr. Committed suicide by Lysol ingestion. We made our way back up the stairs, and while out of Christina's earshot, I wanted to hear what Kate was picking up so far before she hears. What did you feel like? Male, female? What did you feel?
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E
Well, there's a woman here right now, and she's, like. She's, like, pulling me to, like, slow down and, like, look. So I'm trying to slow down and look, but it doesn't feel like. First of all, it's hard to breathe up here a lot, but down here, there's the kids running around, and there's also a man. And the man, too. He's, like, stands behind that cage as I was like, this is interesting how the bar is locked up. I don't think he likes it. I don't think he Likes the bars. He feels like a stronger energy that can, like, actually move things or, like, knock things off is how it feels.
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A
It was interesting that she was picking up a female now in the stairwell. Many staff report a welcoming female presence in the green room. But on Lindsay's call, she, oddly enough, felt a positive female presence as well. But Kate also mentioned kids and a male presence. The kids strangely aligned with Lindsay's partner's experience. Jake, whose call I briefed you on earlier. But I was mostly interested in the strong male presence that she was picking up on. She claimed he was down in the speakeasy, standing behind the caged lock bar. This was an area that many attribute to J. Waller Stevens Jr. Health of Speakeasy before Eden was named after him. But I was going to see how this presence progressed later on in her readings. At this moment, Kate was pulled back up to the green room, then into the back office again. This tiny back office is where a lot of the staff have reports of a darker presence. Some even refer to it as demonic. It's also where they keep a small shelf of liquor, and it's right beside the building's breaker box, tucked in a corner. You get anything?
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E
I'm waiting to see them step out more, but there's somebody that I'm chasing around that, like, keeps hiding, like, very hot. Like, he looks taller, though. At first I thought it was kids because of how it felt, but it feels masculine. And I don't know, he's just like. I keep seeing him, like, step behind the shelf or, like, duck down here. So I'm trying to pull him out, but right now he just looks shadowy. He looks medium built, not slender, but not big, just medium. It feels businessy, like he was some sort of business mongrel. I don't know. Very businessy.
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A
Interestingly, she was picking up on a shadowy presence that was hiding here. She even mentioned how she thought it was smaller before, maybe even childlike, which is similar to the way Jeffrey was describing the shadow figure he was seeing today. But one additional detail that Kate got was that he felt like a businessman. This was something to note because J. Waller Stevens Jr. Was an actual bookkeeper. This presence was dodgy. And she wasn't able to get much more in this moment. But Kate was pulled to the stage through the backstage door in the green room at this moment.
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E
And that's the stage?
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A
Yeah, if you want to go to the stage, you can check that out, too. That's the back stage area. And then you can get onto the stage for the stairs.
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E
Oh, I see.
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A
And to the left is like, a little. Just control room with, like, right here on this side. It's like a little control room with all the gear in it. Got it?
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Yeah.
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A
Sorry. I want to give you listeners a bit of a heads up. There is a lot of validating moments that are about to unfold in this section here, but the way they unfold is really fast and a bit confusing because Kate spots someone on the stage, but then she references the other male energy from before, the businessman. It will sound a little confusing at first, but I clarify it as we go along. So just bear with us. Pay attention to what unfolds on the stage here. The first thing that Kate spots is. Is someone walking on the stage.
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E
There's. There's somebody who, like, comes up and walks this way.
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A
What are you getting on that person that you saw here?
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E
Honestly, it feels like. My first instinct is it feels like suicide is how it feels. It feels like somebody was, like, sad. It's the first feeling that comes through.
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A
The one that was walking here.
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E
No, this is like a man and like a stagehand. He feels like stagehand, but there's an energy coming up the stairs that feels sad and depressed. That kind of, like, puts, like, a blanket on things. Does that make sense? But the stage hand walks around a lot, and he's fast, and it's very go, go, go. He doesn't really stop to talk to anybody because it's a job that needs done. Something happened with, like, a light falling.
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A
A light falling?
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E
Yeah. This feels past is how it feels. And he's like, if they would have listened to me about screwing it up there, that wouldn't have happened. Is how he's standing right here, right now, like, to be part of the conversation.
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A
Tell me if you get a name randomly. It's okay. Don't. It's not good. They never really.
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E
I've been fighting with names today.
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A
Don't do it. Don't. Don't force it at all.
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E
He's actually. This guy's, like, very kind, and he's very, like, show you around. He wants to show you the place. He wants you to know what's going on. Because there are some, like, beings, I think, that came in that weren't here originally, and he's, like, trying to get them to go away. Things that he's describing to me are, like some of the chairs being moved or, like, shoved, and it feels like. Like, if people are sitting in the audience, it'll feel like a mouse runs by, but it's not Mice. It's like a, like that playful, staticy type energy. And that's what I feel. That's what I feel down in the speakeasy, like kind of hiding in that employee's thing, like where you go down the stairs. It feels like they're like kind of in there. Feels very ecstatic. I don't know how to describe it. And it's not. It's not people. People mistake them, I think for children because of how they're able to like, shift and make themselves look. But it's has nothing to do with the comedy club. Has everything to do with where we're at locationally.
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A
What are you seeing them do?
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E
Like, it's not like chaos boss. It's like things like I thought I saw somebody run in the corner of my eye, like those kinds of things. And it's almost like a distraction from like, what's happening. So, like. And the. For this name I'm hearing, like Hank or something like that. Yeah, See, that's the name Jeffrey got. Yeah, his name is Hank.
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A
Holy.
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E
He is. He wants them gone.
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A
Hold on. I never had that much quick of a validation. That's insane. Okay. You probably heard me blurt out some language that I don't typically use on the show. That's because I was possibly the most shocked I have ever been on this show with what Kate just said. She not only was picking up a stagehand, which directly connects to Jeffrey and Lindsay's sightings, but for the first time in our show's history, two psychic mediums not only picked up the same presence, which has happened before, especially with Jeffrey and Kate at Hotel Havana, but never have we ever gotten an exact name match just to paint the picture. The current data states that There are over 5,000 first names currently being used in the United States today. The odds that they could get the same exact name tied to the same spirit of the stagehand blew my mind. But beyond this, she was picking up for the first time a suicide tied to an energy from the back stairwell. And now mentioning little energies that. That in some ways resembled Jeffrey's description of the shadow figure he was seeing. He described them as jagged edged and it looked like they were made of electricity. I was going to see what more developed from these from Kate as well. But let's get back to more on Hank because there was more validation to come.
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E
There's something about that light thing. He's like, check your lights. Like make sure. Just check them and make sure to.
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F
Make sure that something was secure. Yeah, because it was only Hanging on.
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E
But like, one little screw.
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A
Okay. Oh, my God.
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E
Jesus Christ.
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A
This is crazy. I did not expect that. Holy crap. Okay, go back and repeat what you just said about the light.
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F
So I'm going to have to get more details from my gm, but they updated me saying that they had to spend money on one of the fixtures because it was just holding. Holding on by a screw. And they were so nervous that it was gonna, like, fall down during, like, a show. And so they were shocked to even find it. We didn't know about it for a while until something like our air conditioning went out. And our air conditioning person was up there and told us about it.
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E
He is gonna keep giving you guys nudges like that. There's also something in the bar that needs food too. And it feels like where the espresso machine is. It's like something in that area there.
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A
Christina and I were still in shock from all this unique validation from Kate. And although this hand confirmation was incredible, I didn't want to lose focus on this other male energy, possibly the one suicide was tied to. And the businessman energy because that has eluded Jeffrey the times he's been here. That is like a small side, amazing validation. But what we're trying to get to is the weirder stuff. Yeah, we don't know an answer to it, but you were drawn down there. So we should focus on, like, we love this guy and we're gonna get his story out there. But I think we're still confused about the. The shadow figure person. Maybe we're not sure about that. I don't know.
- [28:28]
E
He's directly related to downstairs and he's made his way upstairs. That's how it feels. And it's very like he tries to hide. That's the thing is, like, he's cowardly because he knows if he gets caught, then he's seen and then he can be asked to leave. But I see him wearing like, like you would wear to a speakeasy. Which is why when you said speaky is easy, I was like, that makes sense. Cuz it's like a tailored suit. It is tailored. He has very special cufflinks. He's showing like a mustache. Like a waxed mustache, mustache, no beard, younger face, and like wavy, like, wavier hair. But I can't tell if it's. If that's his. His hair texture or like, if he waxed it that way or gelled it, whatever they had.
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A
Is there anything on, like, interesting or significant about his, like, what he's telling you about, like, is there Anything, what he did or also maybe how he died or anything.
- [29:27]
E
Well, I feel like he did something that like. Okay, hold on, let me slow down. Something about wealth is really important to him. And I don't know if he was embezzling or he was doing some sort of like money taken, it feels like, feels like embezzlement kind of. Because I see. Because when I go into your back room and like the books and stuff, I see him like sitting there, like going through it, like riding in it and things like.
- [29:58]
A
Like that. Again, this was another clue that was hinting that Kate could potentially be picking up on John Waller Stevens Jr. The only item I was able to find at this point online was J. Stevens death certificate. And on it it did confirm his cause of death was self administered Lysol poisoning. But also on his death certificate it listed his job and workplace. And it was in fact bookkeeper at Wilson Furniture store, which I had confirmed was in this building during the time of his death. But I had not yet been able to find anything in the record stating that he was embezzling money. That was just told to me by Sarah from Eden Speakeasy. And Christina had heard this rumor herself as well. When we get back from this short break, we'll continue our investigation of Sunset Strip with Kate and eventually bring her and Jeffrey together to share their findings. Stay tuned. This episode of the Night Owl podcast is brought to you by BetterHelp Therapy Online. For 10% off your first month, go to betterhelp.com night owl and please note, BetterHelp is not a crisis line. So here we are, night owls. It's January 2025. A brand new year. A fresh start, if you will. A chance to make this year the best year of your life. Every January, we are presented with 365 blank pages just waiting to be filled with the story of our lives. It's entirely up to us to pick up that pen and start writing that story. Maybe last year didn't go the way we anticipated and life threw us some curveballs that we didn't see coming. Perhaps you're ready for a plot twist, a new beginning, or a revision to your life story that you would like to see unfold. Think of therapy as your editorial partner. A way to write new chapters and create the meaningful life story that you truly deserve. We all need help at some points in our lives. I know I have. And therapy is extremely beneficial in helping develop coping skills that enable us to deal with those unwanted chapters in our lives. Therapy can assist us in setting boundaries and it can empower us to be the best versions of ourselves. BetterHelp Therapy Online has provided affordable and convenient therapy to over 5 million people worldwide. It is completely online and you will have access to more than 30,000 credentialed therapists with a wide range of specialties. Therapy is not just for those individuals who have experienced major trauma in their lives. Therapy is for anyone who needs that extra assistance to get their life story where they want it to be. And BetterHelp Therapy Online can do that for you. So pick up that pen and be the author of your own life. Write your story with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com night owl today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp H E L p.com.com night owl this episode is also brought to you by AG1 fellow night owls, like it or not, another year is upon us. And like many others, this time of year makes me contemplate where I am in my life and what goals I have for the coming year. Whether you call them New Year's resolutions or life goals, the intent is always the same. I want to make myself a better me. This year I've committed to getting in better physical shape and in pursuit of that goal, in addition to a membership at my local gym, I have hired a personal trainer to help me push me down the path to success. As most of you know, I'm already committed to giving my body the proper nutrition it needs and I do that by making AG1 part of my daily routine and I've been doing so for over two years now. AG1 is designed for people like me looking to support their foundational nutrition needs for whole body health. AG1 is an easy, drinkable daily supplement that supports brain, gut and immune health through a science driven formula of vitamins, minerals, prebiotics, probiotics, stress adaptogens, mushrooms, superfoods and digestive enzymes. Drinking AG1 every morning gives my body the kickstart it needs to be able to do the strenuous physical workouts required in order to accomplish those goals that I have set for myself. Even if you haven't set any New Year's resolutions for yourself, there is absolutely no wrong time for giving yourself the gift of better health. Why not let AG1 help you become a healthier version of you this year? One scoop once a day, every day is your solution to achieving whole body benefits and making you a healthier you. So this year, give AG1 a try yourself and discover how AG1 can change your life for the better and AG1 is offering new subscribers a free $76 gift. When you sign up, you'll get a welcome kit, a bottle of D3K2 and five free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out drinkag1.com Night Owl to get this offer. That's drinkag1.com Night Owl to start your new year on a healthier note. Continuing where we left off, Kate was discussing the male businessman presence. But now she began to explain that she had picked up on an older female presence that she believed was tied to the same male spirit.
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E
But it's funny because he comes in and then there's like a grandmother figure who comes in behind him and I see her like pulling his ear. And it's funny because we were going up the stairs and I felt her like pulling me. So I feel like, okay, wait, this is important.
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A
So between the two energies, you felt the grandmother pulling you where?
- [35:23]
E
Like back down the stairs.
- [35:25]
A
Back down the stairs?
- [35:25]
E
Yeah, like, and it felt like a slow, like a. Like I said, when we're coming it's like, slow down, slow down. Look, slow down. So to me it's like, slow down, look deeper into it and not just off of like the residuals. Cuz there's a lot of residual energy and so I'm trying to work past it. So just one second.
- [35:49]
A
Sure, we'll take your time. I was curious if this grandmother energy could be the female energy felt in the green room. However, it seemed a little different based on what Kate was sharing. Also, it was a bit odd to think that J. Steven's grandmother would be here too. But Kate continued.
- [36:05]
E
Feels like you're his grandmother, but it's like she came in here because he was here and she's trying to like, I just see him like pulling his ear like he's in trouble. Who owned this? Was there like a bank or like a big name bank or something that owned this?
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A
There is something that's tying to money to a person we've been interested in looking into. It's not a bank though.
- [36:31]
E
The Mongol, the business Mongol keeps coming into mind. So it's like he had several assets is how it feels. He thinks he's very prominent in today's world, but I think his name is forgotten is how it feels. Are you the same shadow figure? I'm gonna go back here for a second.
- [36:54]
A
Yeah, go ahead.
- [36:55]
E
Why are you hiding? What are you hiding? See, I think he's separate.
- [37:02]
A
Separate from what?
- [37:03]
E
Hold on. I'm sorry, just one second. I think he's separate from the shadow. Why are you showing me that? I'm gonna come back here to this office.
- [37:12]
A
We're gonna go back to the office if you want to follow us. This was interesting. Kate was now starting to feel she was mixing up the shadow figure that's been hiding behind things and sneaking around versus the businessman presence that she's been connecting with. Kate wanted to return to the green room to see if she could get more clarity on this.
- [37:32]
E
Okay, well, this area is like private. I mean, I know it's a green room, but it's like you can feel the men sitting around. This person that I'm tapping into sits like with his arm back like this. You can see his loafers, you can see his socks. This person is thinner.
- [37:53]
A
Now. Is this the same one that you were seeing with money?
- [37:55]
E
This is the business one from downstairs. Okay, I'm two. I'm trying to tap into his energy and see kind of what's happening around him is how it looks. Because like, I'm standing in the room observing. Basically he's sitting here, he has a cigar. There's a few other men sitting here and they're laughing. These all feel like businessmen. I also wonder if they did like some small time gambling back here. That's how it feels like taking bets or putting bets. Nobody was allowed back here. I don't even really see people bringing drinks to the men back here. If there was, it was maybe like one person. Can you show me a time period? Feels 50s. Are you shadow person? He's. He's very adamant. He's saying, no, no. He's the one that you see in the office. You see him in the office. He doesn't want to share. No, cuz that's bank. I'm trying to like, see what he's. What he's doing, what he's like writing. There's something about the paperwork that like, he has to do paperwork with what he's doing. And he died from. From like either I hear stroke, stroke or heart attack. I think that's why it's so hard to breathe up here. You should be able to find records of him in the hospital. He says, I don't think he means any harm, but there's some things that he's hiding too. So he like, puts on this, like, I'm just friendly, I'm just here. But there's some things going on in the shadow that I think he is a part of. And with that I see like doors shutting or like locked that shouldn't have been locked. And I keep seeing the shadow of a person, like, moving behind, like. But I saw him behind that rack in there.
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A
Is that him? Or is it. Or is it something else still? You don't know.
- [39:59]
E
You can't tell the difference. Because what I don't know. I don't know if it's. He's, like, pretending, and this is how I show up. And then this is also, like, sorry, I thought I saw something. I can't tell if they're two separate people.
- [40:14]
A
Long story short, let's try to. Like, we'll just spend some more time, and if that comes, let us know. But it doesn't have to be forced. I'm very interested in that. Jeffrey is getting a shadow person as well.
- [40:25]
E
Yeah, this shot, the shadow person, he's the one who's, like, shutting doors and things like that. But he. He doesn't have a face. He doesn't think he's being mean. He thinks what he's doing is funny, and it's not funny. And he's definitely what we would probably call an asshole. Like, that's how he just feels like an asshole. Like, he thinks it's funny when people trip. He thinks it's funny when the doors are shutting. Things like that. That's him. I don't think it's the same person. I really don't think it's the same person as. As the wealthy man. But there's something about his energy that the shadow is, like, connected to or shows up around. Because, like, when I was standing back there, you see the businessman here, and then you see the shadow person behind the liquor. Then we went downstairs, and he was behind where the liquor was again. So to me, that means he's related to.
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A
To.
- [41:25]
E
To that in some sense, whether he was, like, a bartender or somebody who was a drunk and just a nasty person. And so that's where he, like, sticks to. But it feels very alcohol related to me. He also says people who are drunk are the easiest to mess with. They always think they're seeing me when they're not. And then he'll, like, come up to people to make them feel threatened. But he could. There's nothing that he can really do. What are you tied to this building?
- [42:01]
A
There were still a lot of questions lingering around the businessman and the shadow person. But we were going to venture out and explore more. On our way out, Christina asked Kate if Hank felt like a spirit from an older or more modern time period. I honestly had forgotten to ask this myself. And Kate came back and confirmed, like Jeffrey, he is from a more modern Time. While Kate went off to explore a bit, I wanted to pull Christina aside and brainstorm all that we were hearing so far and ask a few more clarifying questions to her myself. You mind if I ask Christina something really fast? Yeah, let's go over here and just taking Christina to the office really quick. I don't know where the money, the embezzlement comes from.
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F
That's J. Stevens.
- [42:44]
A
I know, but I can't find it. Where did that come from?
- [42:49]
F
So downstairs, one of the managers had.
- [42:51]
A
Books and stuff that said that or had records.
- [42:53]
F
She had records of saying that. I think his father was the comptroller of Texas and he got caught because he used to do the books for this building.
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A
And it was a furniture store, I think was like.
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E
Furniture.
- [43:07]
A
Yeah.
- [43:08]
F
And then they were doing some kind of shady business up here. Up here because of the.
- [43:12]
A
So what she's seen Prohibition. So what she's seen might be real. She said they were up here doing that stuff.
- [43:18]
E
Yeah.
- [43:19]
A
Well, I need to get. Who has that stuff?
- [43:22]
F
I. I think Sarah downstairs.
- [43:24]
A
Okay. I need to get. I need to get that. The only problem is that she was getting 50s and he died in the 20s.
- [43:31]
F
Yeah, he did.
- [43:31]
A
So that doesn't line up. Everything else is crazy. Right. But that's. But there's sometimes they get that off. But I just don't. I don't know.
- [43:38]
F
I wish in the 50s and the 20s, I mean, I think she was like going off of visually what it looked like, because she goes, oh, it looks like the 50s. So I guess maybe clarify that.
- [43:47]
A
We'll have to get more clarity on that. That's the only thing that's not lining up for him. She also said that his death was a stroke, which is different from what I have on the record for him, the one we're thinking of, you know, which is obviously to the awful way he did.
- [44:01]
F
Well, I think it could be a different person, cuz. Remember the other manager downstairs, she was talking about how one of the regulars that was always a regular at the bar down there died of a stroke in the bathroom as well. So it could be that guy or.
- [44:19]
A
She'S getting the two energies mixed. Right. I don't know. That's interesting. We need to get more than that. I had completely forgotten about the man that Sarah, the owner of Eden, told me about, who also reportedly died in the same bathroom under the back stairwell. This man apparently used to be a patron of a bar that used to be on the first floor. I'm still not 100% clear on this. But he was possibly a homeless man who was well loved and had no real family. So when he died in the upstairs bathroom, the staff all pitched in and decided to have him cremated and his ashes mixed into the new foundation where Happy Chicks is now. So my brain was now wondering, could Kate be blurring what she's picking up between J. Stevens Jr. And this person? I wasn't sure, but Kate was sitting on the back stairwell, so I went to check up on her. Okay, going back to see Kate on the stairs. Sorry, Kate, didn't want to disrupt you. I'm just going to sit over here.
- [45:11]
E
I just wanted to see what was over here because it feels like somebody stands down there and is like, come here. So I came to see, but he's not doing it. Like, he's just staring at me. So I'm waiting to see. Okay, well, let's go see entertainment. I'm curious to see what opens up and goes down this way.
- [45:41]
A
Okay.
- [45:41]
E
Because I see somebody come and they run out here and then they go down that way.
- [45:47]
A
I know they take the trash out through here often. This is where they have to take the trash out.
- [45:51]
E
Oh, yeah. Okay.
- [45:54]
A
We made it down to the small room at the landing of the stairwell that has the door to the alleyway to the right and the entrance to Eden on the left.
- [46:02]
E
The shadow figure, I feel like, comes down here and hangs out here, too. I wonder if he was like. I just keep seeing him related to the bar. I don't know if he's bartender. I don't know if he was a patron. I don't know. But it's very. Like something about this is related to the alcohol and from what I'm picking up on. But he doesn't feel drunk. He doesn't feel. He feels very sober, actually. He feels very calculated. Very sober. Just an. I don't think he's gonna tell me anything else. I keep trying to, like, poke and prod.
- [46:41]
A
Yeah. Okay. We were down in the speakeasy. Now coming back up the stairs. I don't know.
- [46:50]
E
I want to look down out the door so badly.
- [46:53]
A
Okay, we can. We can let her find out.
- [46:55]
E
Well, the thing is, is I think it's because I feel an energy going that way. I don't think it's necessarily like. Yeah, looking out there, I'm going to find out. It's just somebody runs down here.
- [47:06]
F
Oh.
- [47:06]
E
Oh. It's a little. Okay. Also down here, too. Feels like younger. Not the sparky things, but it feels like kids, like, run in, grab stuff and run out. Is how it feels not really tied to the building, but people feel them. And like I said, like, how many feelings. The mice, it's like a rush of wind beside them. It's very fast energy. Giggling, tapping, things like that. But these kids are related to something down the road.
- [47:40]
A
Okay, now, when you said sparky things, what is that?
- [47:43]
E
I don't know how to describe it. It's an elemental. It's not like a human energy. It's not humany at all. It's just like. How do I say. How do I say that? They, like, come up from earth and they look. They almost look like mice because of the size they are and like, kind of how they're shaped. Not like they have a tail or like mouse features. It like, literally looks like scribble scrabble or like static electricity. And it's like little balls of them and they roll around the feet sometimes. Like, the feedback and stuff that's happening in the sound booth is coming from, like, those surges of things. It's just Austin related and not. Okay. Yeah, okay.
- [48:29]
A
We weren't making much progress with J. Stevens Jr. Or the Shadow figure, but I just wanted to point out how unique it was for these two psychics to describe things they were seeing that had similar features. Jeffrey and Kate reported something that looked electric or jagged and in Kate's terms, sparky. I wasn't sure what to make of it, but the two hitting on the same features was worth noting because it's something I've never actually heard reported before. So it makes it quite unique that they were both getting this. But for today, we were running out of time for this investigation. So I finally wanted to connect Kate and Jeffrey for the first time upstairs in the hallway by the stage. We don't have much time, and this may be the last time we get to be here. So, Jeffrey, the things that were really. Before you say anything about what you got, she got a lot of things that have been hidden that I was hoping to possibly get. I don't know. I don't want to. I want to give you a last chance to. Not that you need to get it, but I don't want to, like, reveal it until you've shared what you fully have gotten. She is getting a shadow figure as well. There is a lot of feelings about a presence that people feel uncomfortable about here. But the key area, which you kind of went there several times, we took you a lot. That back stairwell is an area. And so you had kind of mentioned that wasn't really bothering you the last time I don't think. And I was just curious about. You did say that they're poking around the corner and coming around here. The shadow figure, the pastor area right there. Yeah. So is there anything else from the. The shadow figure that you're getting before we kind of dive into sharing a little bit of what we're getting with?
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D
Well, I mean the main thing about the shadow figure was I think he's the one that likes to scare people from behind. He's the one that made the somebody feel so terrified that they thought they were gonna die or something. You know, that kind of terror. Okay, that one time. But mostly he's just.
- [50:10]
E
He's.
- [50:11]
D
He darts back and forth, he messes with the lights, he messes with the light control, he likes the electricity. The main thing I get from him is that he's just mean. He's just mean, you know. And I remember the staircase going downstairs from last time and I was sitting on it and I didn't get the creeped out feeling on the stairs, so.
- [50:33]
A
And that's one of the most common things here reported. That's kind of the thing is everyone is kind of afraid of the back stairwell cuz they have to take the trash out at night. And they all agree that it felt like a male presence to most people. And in some instances there is a shadow figure reported that did do something. Exactly what you said. She is starting to pick up possibly two different male presences. One is not a shadow and one is. And so I'm curious if the shadow might be the same one that you're seeing. I know you described him more as an asshole, right?
- [51:07]
E
Yeah. I think we're picking up on the same shadow person. And there's something about too like going out those doors. I don't know if he goes out there and waits in the alley, but I want so badly to just peek around that corner. Yeah, I'll let Christina know it feels the same. And that's what I'm seeing is like, yes, it's the same.
- [51:25]
A
That's the shadow figure.
- [51:27]
E
That's the shadow figure. He is separate, I think than the businessman. He feels separate.
- [51:32]
A
She got a businessman. And that's another. There's one figure I have found in the history records that keeps it just. It's the one that everyone even believes him to be the one here. You picked up a lot on what we think think lines up with this person. So I want to keep going with him. But I don't know if you can find anything more about him. But we found everything his death record. There's records about what things he did in life, and you're hitting on a crap ton of things. So I think you are picking up on him. But I don't want to force it because there's also one thing you said that nulls all that out. Like, that couldn't be him if you said one thing. You said dead.
- [52:11]
E
So the time period. Never trust my time period.
- [52:13]
A
Yes, it's the time period.
- [52:14]
E
Don't touch my time period.
- [52:15]
A
Also the death. The death.
- [52:17]
E
Okay.
- [52:18]
A
Because I have his death record.
- [52:19]
E
Okay.
- [52:19]
A
So I don't know. And I don't want to force it. So don't try to change it if it's not really changing for you. I want to make sure we get the right person, because this person, the. The stories that we have uncovered about him, it feels a lot like 100. That guy.
- [52:32]
E
Yeah.
- [52:33]
A
It's just the death is off and the time period's off. So I don't want to. I don't want to make it fit. This one is like what she described, and she saw him handling money.
- [52:41]
E
I want to ask you how he died. I just see him clutching his.
- [52:45]
A
It's.
- [52:46]
E
I don't know.
- [52:47]
A
It's the most. I've never heard of a death like this. So that's why it's like. It's pretty. Yeah. And that's what really made us think this guy is. If anybody would be haunting this place, this would be. Yeah.
- [52:59]
E
Wow.
- [53:00]
A
Yeah. So just kind of keep walking. Maybe he'll reveal if it is him. I don't even know if it's him. It could be another person. He says it's him, and maybe that's what he's hiding. What were you getting about the money? About him?
- [53:15]
E
Something about him embezzling it or, like, taking it from other people is how it feels.
- [53:19]
A
Okay. That's what this guy. This guy did something very much like that. Bookkeeping. He.
- [53:24]
E
He missed the papers. I said that about the book.
- [53:27]
A
He. He went in. You said you saw him in the back with the books in the office. And I'm like, that's what he did. He was a bookkeeper.
- [53:32]
E
Yeah. That makes.
- [53:33]
F
Okay, but he did the accounting for the building.
- [53:36]
E
Yeah, well, because you can see him literally writing in the books.
- [53:40]
A
Yeah. And you said that. So I was like, this seems like the guy, but the death is not it. Like, the stroke is not the way he died.
- [53:46]
E
Yeah.
- [53:47]
A
At least what we have in the death certificate.
- [53:50]
E
I see that shadow, man. It's almost like he was standing. Standing in the room as they were having their conversation. That's what I see. He's like, they're in the room as they're having conversation.
- [54:02]
A
That's the one that I'm dying to see if we can get anything else on, because it is a little. I'm unsure if that's what y' all are feeling. And I also want to see if it's what y' all are feeling.
- [54:09]
F
Yeah, I don't know how to, like, I don't know. I. I want you guys to connect more with them. But it's, like, hard because he's like that. That one that hides.
- [54:19]
E
That would be it.
- [54:20]
A
Let's try it. So we're gonna try the Essence Method and just go for it and see. There were some things that were solidifying. We were pretty sure that the shadow figure was separate from the businessman, who we still weren't sure was J. Stevens Jr. But we were very much leaning that way. We did believe Jeffrey and Kate were picking up on the same shadow person. Hank was an obvious hit, and I'll do my best later to see if I can dive into research and maybe actually find him. But the reason we were called out here was to try to help alleviate the darker energy that many felt. My theory was that the shadow person was the culprit here, but there were still some ties to Jace Stevens that Kate was picking up on, and we needed to do what we could with the limited time we had to get more on this. So we ventured to the Green Room and prepared to put Kate under an Estes Method session here. While setting up, Kate offered some more info on what she saw earlier with the Shadow man and Businessman being in the Green Room and as if they were connected in life too and spent time here.
- [55:17]
E
I just want to explain when I was watching what was happening in the room, my eyes, I guess my perspective was coming from here. And that was when I was trying to like, get in touch with the shadow guy here. So I think I was like watching the room from his perspective and I can't see if he's like alive during this point time in hiding in the shadows or past. But he was there to witness the conversation. It feels like he feels very witnessing of like the under the table stuff going on.
- [55:52]
A
Kate decided the Green Room would be the room that she wanted to go under. The Estes Method experiment with. Again, this is a sensory deprivation technique that removes your eyesight and hearing with goggles and noise canceling headphones. The person going under will then be fed the sound of a scanning AM radio into Their headphones. Meanwhile, someone on the team will ask the person under the sensory deprivation questions that they can't hear. And we see if actual responses seem like they are happening to the questions that are being asked and validate communication with potential spirits. I want to make it clear that what you will hear unfold in this edit is heavily edited. Most of these SD sessions in reality take a very long time, sometimes over 30 minutes. The pauses between responses and questions can be very long as well. And in most cases, including this session, the there were a ton of random sounds and words that the person utters out. There weren't too many in this session. However, for the sake of this episode's time, I trimmed it very tight. And also, I'm just going to summarize at the end extra things that were occurring in between the main communication that we thought we were having with J. Waller Stevens Jr. I just want to be transparent about what you're hearing. All right. I want to ask. If any of the spirits in here have something to say, say it through Kate.
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E
Kate.
- [57:06]
A
Kate. This is Kate. You can talk through her and tell her he. We're trying to communicate with any of the spirits that are currently in this jump.
- [57:19]
E
Business.
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A
What kind of business?
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E
Barely.
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A
Try to focus and just give the words that are important to let us know.
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E
Business.
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A
Business. Okay. What kind of business?
- [57:31]
E
It's him who run.
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A
No, we're gonna be here for a little while. Who are you? Can you talk to Kate and tell us your name?
- [57:40]
E
Steven.
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A
That's my name. Someone here had the last name of Stevens. Who's the shadow?
- [57:48]
E
Can you hear me?
- [57:49]
A
Yes. Who's the shadow? Person that people see here.
- [57:53]
E
Go.
- [57:54]
A
Go where?
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E
Sarah.
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A
Sarah. Who's Sarah? What's your name?
- [57:59]
E
I'm tired.
- [58:00]
A
Okay, well, what are you tired of? We can help you. What do you need?
- [58:04]
E
Can we connect you?
- [58:07]
A
Yes, we're trying to connect. What do you need to say?
- [58:09]
E
Lost you.
- [58:11]
A
I'm here. You gotta speak through Kate. Answer our questions more so we can know we're talking to someone else, not just gibberish. Did you die in the building?
- [58:19]
E
John. John.
- [58:20]
A
Okay. John. John is the name of the person we're trying to communicate with. John, if this is you, can you tell us?
- [58:26]
E
Family.
- [58:26]
A
What did you do for a living? Kate?
- [58:29]
E
Can you hear me?
- [58:30]
A
Yes. What happened to John? To you?
- [58:33]
E
Business. It's business.
- [58:35]
A
Okay? That's what you did, John? Yes. What kind of business?
- [58:39]
E
Forgive me.
- [58:40]
A
What did you do? We'll forgive you. We just need you to say what you can. What did you do?
- [58:46]
E
Get up to the stairs.
- [58:49]
A
Okay, someone go down the stairs real quick. Devin's gonna go to the stairs.
- [58:54]
E
That's it.
- [58:54]
A
Okay, she's going to the left. To the left, to the stairs. Okay, she's there. What do you need her to do?
- [59:03]
E
Time.
- [59:04]
A
Time is 12:17. You want me to set a timer?
- [59:08]
E
A farm. Homeless.
- [59:12]
A
Homeless.
- [59:13]
E
John Death?
- [59:14]
A
Yes, John. What happened? We were talking to you, and you seem to be talking about what you.
- [59:20]
E
Did for the business and then. Yeah, a farm.
- [59:25]
A
Who are we talking to now? Are we not talking to John anymore? Was there a John talking?
- [59:30]
E
Hello? Yes, that's my name.
- [59:32]
A
Okay, John, I don't know if we're gonna get much information to help the farm. I promise I'll look up your history and see if there was a forum in your history. But what do I need to know about the forum?
- [59:44]
E
Nope.
- [59:46]
A
Why won't you share with us what we need to know? We gotta help you. Do you want your story to be told truthfully or you want it to be theorized? We could get the information that we need and share your story and let you move on. What do you need to say?
- [59:59]
E
Can we take a time out?
- [60:01]
A
Yeah.
- [60:02]
E
Okay. Can I say something?
- [60:04]
A
Yeah.
- [60:04]
E
There's a woman trying to come through, and he's, like, not letting her talk. It's like, sorry, my eyes are watering. So I'm hearing like three or four different voices, and one is this woman, and she's trying to talk, and he, like, cuts her off and, like, pulls her back from. From talking. There's like three or four different people coming in, and I don't know, I just needed to. To stop and say that. And she's like, right here. She's like, right here. She had dreams. She had dreams of being a star and traveling and going. And I'm sorry, I'm probably gonna start crying because she's just sitting here. She had dreams of doing all of that, but they were taken away from her. And she's trying to get her story across, but it's not clear. She's not able to. It's not coming through clearly. And then all. Also, there were two different men coming through, and their voices were different. There was, like, a man who was saying farm and speaking clearly, and it felt like the businessman. And then there was another man coming through, and it was, like, short. Trying to make you, like, really listen and hear what he was saying. Jim. I keep hearing Jim for. For this other guy. Sorry, my eyes are closed.
- [61:21]
A
Speak short.
- [61:22]
E
Yeah, it's like, jim, what about the other guy?
- [61:24]
A
Was there Another name that is at all. Did any other names come through for you?
- [61:27]
E
That John was like a stronger word coming through.
- [61:31]
A
Okay.
- [61:31]
E
But there was also, like. Because it felt like at first, everybody was like talking at one time. So there's like a lot of different names coming through. But John was very singular. And then like, I just keep hearing. And Jim. Jim.
- [61:45]
A
But that was a different person.
- [61:47]
E
It's different. Yeah.
- [61:48]
A
Okay.
- [61:49]
E
But I just. This woman I feel like, is important to acknowledge she's the one who can bring sadness. And like, a lot of women feel empathy towards her while they're here. She doesn't do a lot. She doesn't want to mess with people. It's just. She's just here. That's how it feels. But she's like. She's trying to repeat, really make her presence known. She's not active. You know what I mean? She's not. It's not like she's active. It's just because I can hear her. She's. She's like, please, somebody hear me. Also, I kept hearing the word fall.
- [62:24]
A
Yeah. And that was tied to the gym.
- [62:26]
E
Person. I don't know.
- [62:27]
A
You don't know who singing.
- [62:28]
E
I just kept hearing the word fall. And farm. I kept hearing farm, too.
- [62:33]
A
There was also a woman that came through and was being suppressed also.
- [62:37]
E
Yes.
- [62:38]
A
With what Jeffrey was getting and also Alexis and her other employees. She was scared, right?
- [62:44]
E
Yeah.
- [62:46]
A
From this session, a couple of things further solidified my beliefs and aspects of what unfolded on our first investigation and various SD sessions. And also today with both Kate and Jeffrey present. One, it really does feel like J. Stevens Jr. Is here with Kate's specific details regarding someone handling books and money and embezzlement. And then the names John and Steven coming up when I specifically was trying to connect with J. Waller Stevens Jr. In this session were all continuing to build credibility to the theory that he was, in fact a presence haunting this building. Furthermore, I found it interesting that the presence I was trying to communicate told me to go to the stairs when I asked where he was in the building. And then the step by step instructions on where to go that Kate was calling out. Keep in mind, blindfolded, when my team member Devin was walking to the back stairwell, matched her exact movements as she made her way there. The parts I cut out of this call were a lot of side moments where a Gem character seemed to be trying to come through. He was tied to the word fall and jump that Kate kept calling out. Oddly enough, jump came out a lot in all the SD sessions that we did in the last investigation. I'm going to take note of all this, but I wanted to focus on what felt relevant for this case currently. Lastly, and strangely, very similarly to the last SD sessions as well, Kate was getting a woman who wasn't able to talk over a male voice. Also, did you notice how Kate even imitated this woman, letting out a desperate please much like the one Philip described during his session that felt so desperate that it disturbed Philip enough to make him stop the session? I'm noting all this as well and going to do my best to find answers for everything that is bubbling up to the surface on this case. This isn't the end of the mystery here at Sunset Strip, but as we wrap up this episode, there are a few key findings worth noting. First, it's clear that Hank has made his presence known. Three sensitive individuals, all from different cities and with no shared knowledge of him, picked up on his energy. I'm hopeful that in the next phase of this investigation I'll be able to uncover more about who he was and why he's here. But there's one big detail I'm left with after the second investigation involving Kate that really stands out. The staff at Sunset Strip have long attributed the uncomfortable, unsettling activity in the building to J. Waller Stevens Jr. His rumored suicide and the location of his death beneath the back stairwell just led them to believe he was behind the more frightening occurrences. However, with K's unique findings today, we now have a new theory. While we still believe Jay Waller is present, there's now a more elusive mean Shadow figure, a harsh, unfriendly melt energy that seems to be the one frightening the staff and creating the uneasy feelings in the back stairwell. Now, not only do I have the mystery of J. Waller Stevens Jr. To unravel, I am also faced with this even more mysterious male shadow potentially tied to Stevens in some way that we need answers for. Although I'm pretty exhausted already, I've got a lot more work ahead of me and plenty more investigating to do at the Sunset Strip Comedy Club. Thanks for listening to this episode of the Night Owl Podcast. Be sure to join us as this paranormal adventure continues in part four of this series on February 24th. 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