After Hours Water Park & Secret Shows

Summary

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The Nightly — "After Hours Water Park & Secret Shows"

Date: May 16, 2026
Hosts: Wils Pelton & Josh Gondelman
Produced by: Hatch Podcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Nightly delivers the cozy, meandering late-night chat fans love—ranging from the comfort of community involvement to playful fantasies about after-hours escapades in museums and water parks, secret shows, stand-up comedy etiquette, pop culture TV recommendations, and the quiet joys of fresh flowers. Peppered throughout are witty observations, deeply relatable moments, and warm encouragements to find delight in both the extraordinary and the everyday.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Community Involvement & the Power of Small Acts

• Josh recaps attending a local political fundraiser, sharing his initial nervousness and the surprising fulfillment from getting involved.
  • “It just feels really nice to be around people that are, like, invested in the community, you know?” (B, 01:19)
• The hosts talk about feeling disconnected in modern life and finding hope in small, actionable contributions.
  • Josh references a friend’s “diaper distribution” project, lauding the impact of small gestures and the satisfaction of helping local families. (B, 02:11)
  • Wils highlights the value of knowing your neighbors and assisting elders in his building, even if it’s as simple as helping with trash bags. (A, 04:19; 05:11)

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2. Lost Keys, Neighborly Bonds, and Security Quirks

• Wils recounts a mini-panic over possibly losing his apartment keys, using the anecdote to suggest the importance of backup plans and neighbor relationships.
  • “Let me get a lockbox or something, or even let me, like, talk to get to know a neighbor who can have a set of keys...” (A, 06:46)
• Josh brings up the etiquette of lockboxes at businesses:
  • “I think it’s uncouth of a business to leave it on the front door while the business is open.” (B, 07:22)
• The conversation leads to nostalgia for first jobs and youthful responsibility—like being trusted with restaurant keys at age 15 and post-shift perks.
  • “Sometimes after a night out, I would go to the deli and make myself like a chicken parm and then go back to my dorm.” (A, 08:38)

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3. Fantasies of After-Hours Escapades

• Both hosts revel in the dream of having free rein in public places after dark:
  • Museums (especially the Guggenheim), sports stadiums, high-end department stores, and, ultimately, water parks.
    • “A water park with no lines would be... that’s truly my dream.” (B, 10:22)
  • The allure is in the sense of exclusivity, adventure, and playful mischief.

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4. Secret Shows, Ephemeral Events, and Nightlife Culture

• Wils and Josh wax poetic about “secret” concerts and events—spaces that feel forbidden or magical.
  • “Imagine getting invited to, like, just a ripping show at a museum late at night.” (B, 11:34)
• Josh shares stories about secret performances, like John Hodgman’s catacomb show in Brooklyn:
  • “I just love, even if it’s not a secret, things that will never happen again...” (B, 12:39)
• They note the increasing use of no-phone policies at clubs, raves, and certain comedy events, riffing on the merits and minor annoyances (like blocked FaceID).
  • “They put little stickers on your phone so that no one can… It’s a no photo space.” (A, 13:36)

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5. Stand-Up, Comedy Heroes, and Hack Material

• Discussion turns to Ellen DeGeneres’ stand-up—her skill at elevating “hack” topics and being an unmatched comic voice.
  • “It’s not just like, oh, everybody has a subservation. It’s like you’re not doing it as well as she did it.” (B, 14:50)
• Light banter about classic routines:
  • “She did the OG and she hit it out of the park.” (A, 15:17)
  • Quotable bit about airplane seatbacks: “She’s like...then does the act out of like ‘live’ and then like leans two inches back—‘die’.” (B/A, 15:31–15:37)

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6. TV Recommendations & Fandom

• Josh celebrates the renewal of The Fallen Rise of Reggie Dinkins, praising its warmth, humor, and emotional resonance.
  • “It’s just so funny and wonderful and sweet...” (B, 16:15)
• The hosts discuss their mutual love for series like Girls5Eva, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Hacks, and The Comeback.
  • “I think Jean Smart is so talented. Hannah Einbinder ... come into her own as an actor... It just is a show that feels like it’s made by people who really care.” (A, 18:25)
• Wils shares the kind of mundane but meaningful dreams he has—like running into a crush—which keeps the tone grounded and endearing.
  • “All of my dreams are literally just, like, completely normal.” (A, 19:17)

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7. Everyday Pleasures: Buy Yourself Lilies

• Wils ends on a soothing recommendation: buy yourself fresh lilies.
  • “My recommendation is literally like, buy lilies. It’ll smell really good and you’ll get to watch them bloom, which is like the most beautiful thing in the world.” (A, 20:53)
• They reflect on the comfort of simple pleasures and the non-permanent beauty of flowers in the home.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It just feels really nice to be around people that are, like, invested in the community, you know?” (Josh, 01:19)
• “That’s such a corny thing. But I’ve really been, like, kind of overwhelmed and grateful for community and community organizing.” (Josh, 02:57)
• “I think being able to ask for that small amount of help and being willing to do it, it just makes the whole situation so much more livable when you’re in close quarters.” (Josh, 05:11)
• “Water park with no lines would be... that’s truly my dream.” (Josh, 10:22)
• “Imagine getting invited to like just a ripping show at a museum late at night.” (Josh, 11:34)
• “She did the OG and she hit it out of the park.” (Wils, 15:17)
• “My recommendation is literally like, buy lilies. It’ll smell really good and you’ll get to watch them bloom...” (Wils, 20:53)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:19 — Josh describes feeling fulfilled by local community engagement
• 06:39 — Wils almost loses keys, discusses the importance of neighborly trust
• 08:38 — Wils’ deli worker after-hours confession
• 10:20 — Fantasies about nighttime at water parks and museums
• 12:39 — Josh’s story about a secret catacomb show
• 15:17–15:37 — Discussion & imitation of Ellen DeGeneres’ “airplane seatback” bit
• 16:15 — Review and praise for The Fallen Rise of Reggie Dinkins
• 20:53 — Wils’ recommendation: buying lilies for your home

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Tone & Style

The conversation is candid, humorous, and inviting—a perfect balance of gentle reassurance, gentle teasing, and earnest delight in life’s small pleasures. Both hosts are self-effacing, warm, and playful, keeping the discussion cozy yet sharp.

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Perfect as a bedtime listen or a companion for winding down, this episode is a gentle nudge to find little adventures, embrace your community (even if through small gestures), and cherish the fleeting but fragrant joys—like midnight water park fantasies and the bloom of a single lily.

Transcript

[A]

Audio for sleep by hatch. Hey there. I'm Wills.

[B]

And I'm Josh. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch, where your late night thoughts go to rest. Wills, I had a really interesting thing that I did recently that I wanted to tell you about, if that's okay with you.

[A]

Oh, my God. It's more than okay. It's highly encouraged.

[B]

Okay, perfect. I was at, like, a political fundraiser for a congressional candidate in our district, and a friend asked us to come and help, you know, invite some people. And it's like, I haven't really done anything like, quite like that before. And so it was just like a

[A]

little

[B]

get together in the apartment, and the candidate was there and answered a bunch of questions. And it was like, just a really, like, heartening experience to be involved and to, like, hear from people directly. And, like, it just feels really nice to be around people that are, like, invested in the community, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I, like, left. I was a little nervous going in because they asked me to do, like, a little introduction for the candidate, which I was happy to do, but I always get nervous about that kind of writing and talking. But I left feeling kind of amazing.

[A]

That is amazing to hear. I mean, anything like that, where you get to, as you said, just be involved with your community and feel like people are trying to do things. It feels really, really good. I feel like it's easy to feel quite disconnected, obviously, from everything and a bit out of control and those types of moments where you can feel like, oh, there's like, actionable things I can do and, like, people that I can be around who, who, like, want to do these things to is like, so lovely and, like, fulfilling and like, I

[B]

really have been feeling that, like, mantra of, like, thinking globally and acting locally. Right. Where it's like, completely. I don't know. My friend Jane does, like, diaper distribution in her neighborhood and, like, just even like, donating a little money to that every week. Like just a small weekly contribution. Yeah, it, like, makes me feel invested in the people around me and, like, wanting to feel good and be happy and healthy and safe and just like those little things, I think, make so much of a difference. Like, you know, I think she recently announced that they'd given away something like a million diapers.

[A]

Oh, my God. Since she started, she's like Oprah.

[B]

Yeah, she's the Oprah of diaper. She's diaper.

[A]

She's diaper. So, yeah.

[B]

So I just, like, I don't know, been really, like, that's such a corny thing. But I've really been, like, kind of overwhelmed and grateful for community and like, community organizing and stuff.

[A]

Yeah, totally. No, I mean, it's real. Like, it's not corny, but it is like, these, like, things that are kind of trite. I feel like, where it's like, there's just these things that will so obviously make you feel better and you do them and you're like, oh, my God, like, shocker, I feel better. It's like the craziest thing in the world.

[B]

Yeah. No, that's so funny. And it's like they're. They're almost always, like, reliable things. It's like, so rarely a surprise where you're like, oh, you're going outside in the sunshine and like, reconnecting with a friend that. That, like, turned around my week completely. Who could have seen that coming?

[A]

I literally texted my friend yesterday. This is like the. This is the kind of self involved version of it, but I was like, 30 minutes of cardio completely changed my mood. Like, I was like, it's almost like doctors should study this, but they already have instances. Like the things where I'm like. So that's actually like, scientifically proven to like, make you.

[B]

Yeah, the results are out there in the world. This is not a surprise.

[A]

But it's like, wow. Like, getting to know your neighbors and like, feeling like a part of your community will really. It can really make you feel hopeful and it can really, really turn some things around for you.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I love it. Do you. Do you know your neighbors where you live now?

[A]

No, I don't. I just moved. I feel like I'm like, I need to, like, get to know everyone because, like, where I lived before, in Bed Stuy, I was there for like four years, so. And I lived in, like a apartment that had like three units. So I, like, knew everyone who lived in the apartment. And I also just, like, knew like, people in my neighborhood and I would, like, see the same people all the time and stuff, which is like, one of my favorite parts of living there. And now I'm like, I'm in a bigger building, so I don't, like, know people as well. And I'm also just like, still getting like, acquainted with my neighborhood. So I'm like, I do want to, like, get more in touch with my community here because I. I'm not. I'm not quite there yet. But yeah, I try to do. I mean, I try to do in the building. There's a lot. The building I live in is a lot of older people also, so it's not Necessarily people that I'm like, right off that we're, like, chatting. But I do a lot of carrying things up the stairs for people and things like that whenever I can, obviously.

[B]

No, I just did that. My neighbor had a shopping bag of trash, and she was like, she's much older. And she was just like, hey, would you take this out for me when you're on your way? And I was like, yeah, of course. It's just that little. I think being able to ask for that small amount of help and being willing to do it, it just makes the whole situation so much more livable when you're in close quarters with other people.

[A]

Completely. Oh, my God. Speaking of which, actually, the scariest thing happened to me last night.

[B]

Oh, no, wait, what happened?

[A]

I got. This is like, I got home to my apartment last night. I live alone, and I was rooting through my bag, and I was like, interesting. I'm not quite seeing my keys.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

And I had previously given my super a copy of my keys, but I think I'd taken them back for some reason. I think maybe he, like, gave them back to me. And I. If that's the case, I actually really need to make sure that he has a copy, because then what happened is that I. My. One of my best friends, Chloe, who has my spare set of keys, is of course, out of town.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so I was like. And she also is, like, in her apartment right now. She usually has a roommate, but the roommate isn't there right now. So I was like, really? I was like, there's a pretty high chance that if she has my keys, they're on her in New Haven, Connecticut. And if they're at her apartment, I don't quite know how I would even access them. I ended up finding my keys. It was completely, completely fine. They were, like, in my bag. But it was just one of those moments where I was kind of like, how do I proceed? Like, what is the order of operations? Yep.

[B]

Is it locksmith?

[A]

Exactly. I was like, is it locksmith? It is like, 11:30pm and it ended up being completely fine. But that was just a. That was a moment where I was like, okay, let me get a lockbox or something, or even let me, like, talk to get to know a neighbor who can have. Who can have a set of keys of mine might be helpful as well.

[B]

Wait, can I tell you, I might have read this opinion and then, like, come around to it myself?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You mentioned those lockboxes, which we just acquired one for, like, when we go out of town. And have someone come to hang out with our dog. But, yeah, I think it's uncouth when a business. Because, you know, sometimes a business will have one on the front door for, like, the person who's closing to leave the key for the person who's opening the next day.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

I think it's uncouth of a business to leave it on the front door while the business is open.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait. Okay, explain, explain.

[B]

Like, like, obviously, when the place is closed and you need that key there for the person opening the next morning or the next evening, that's fine. That's. That's utilitarian. Once the business is active for the day, I think they should hide that

[A]

away somewhere, that lockbox, because someone could take it.

[B]

No, I just think it looks bad.

[A]

Oh, you're like, I just think it's ugly.

[B]

Yeah. I. Yes.

[A]

Okay. Okay. I like. I like that take. I. I'm like 100 agree. I'm like, subway takes. Thank you.

[B]

Yeah, that's. We're more like, we gotta get more Subway takes on this show.

[A]

We gotta get more Subway takes. I will say one of the. I mean, it's always so funny, like, to think about, like, being a. Basically a child working at, like, a job. And it's like, I'm 15 and have a set of keys to a restaurant for some reason. Yeah. So I shouldn't have these.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

I have no business having these. But I, like, I could do whatever I want to the. To the business. And I used to work at a deli. And I'm gonna say just leave it at that. Like, we're not gonna say where, because I feel like I'm gonna say something that's not, like, the coolest thing I've ever done in my entire life. Okay. I used to work at a deli when I was in school, and they left us a set of keys to get in and out of it. And sometimes after a night out, I would go to the deli and make myself like a chicken parm and then go back to my door.

[B]

I think that's deli workers prerogative.

[A]

And what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? I think I know as well within my right. That's just something that I've done in my lifetime.

[B]

Okay. But there's nothing more fun than being a place.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

That's closed to the public completely. Oh, it's the best.

[A]

It's like. I mean, it's like you're a living night at the museum, basically.

[B]

I know.

[A]

It's Like a complete dream. The dream, it's amazing.

[B]

Do you have like a place that you're like, oh, I would love to get in this place after hours.

[A]

Oh my God. Wait, that's such good question. Of course. I'm thinking museum.

[B]

Museum would be great. I think the Guggenheim, which is architecturally a big spiral, would be a fun place to like go up and down without other people around. I think also playing like a light game of basketball, like even horse or something.

[A]

Oh, totally.

[B]

On like a professional court.

[A]

I mean that would be completely sick. I also think like low key, like kind of like a high end department store could be so fun to just like play around and like be the only person there trying on like whatever you want. I think could be like completely amazing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh my God. I mean that's such a dream to be somewhere after hours and just have like complete and total free reign of it.

[B]

The greatest.

[A]

Yeah. I think any type of sports situation would be completely.

[B]

Yeah, that would be fun to be on like a big like American football or soccer. Football field and just like would be so cool under the lights at night and you're like, oh, this is cool.

[A]

Oh my God. Oh my God. A water park.

[B]

Water park would be incredible. Water park with no lines would be. That's. That's truly my dream.

[A]

Yeah. That I just unlocked something because I was going to say like a huge pool and then I was like, think bigger. A water park dream. More ambitious. You would even say like an amusement park. But I think like something about the water park being like more contained is like so fun to me because it's

[B]

also like you need someone to run the rides or whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like you just leave the wave pool on, prop the back door open. Yeah. Let me bob around in that wave pool in the night.

[A]

Oh my God. Completely. I mean this is also reminding me of now the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum.

[B]

Love the Isabella. I could talk with the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum all day, every day.

[A]

Of course, I know we have before, but of course the security guards used to throw concerts in the courtyard, which is like the coolest thing I could possibly imagine.

[B]

Obviously they. On the other hand, there were consequences to the lacks security at the Isabella studio Gardner Museum in that it is the. That museum was the site of the greatest unsolved art heist in history.

[A]

But they had so much fun.

[B]

Yeah, it would have been so fun.

[A]

It was high risk.

[B]

I would have loved. Imagine getting invited to like just a ripping show at a museum late at night.

[A]

I just think it'd be the Coolest thing in the world. I mean, it's like, these are, like, the things that. It's like, this is why people have speakeasies. And it's, like, also why. But it's, like, completely not the same at all. It's like, people want this feeling of, like, being somewhere that you're not supposed to be, and then they try to, like, create that by, like, making a speakeasy, but it just. It's not. Nothing's gonna hit, like a. Like a midnight concert in a museum where you're, like, absolutely not supposed to be there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's so cool.

[B]

I like, love the idea of, like, a secret show or something.

[A]

I know. Ugh. I'm like, have you ever, like, been to a secret show?

[B]

I'm trying to think if I have. Yeah, I. I think I mentioned this. I might have mentioned this recently, but when years ago, John Hodgman, who's, like, a writer performer, used to do these. He called them Secret society, but they would just be regular shows at a real venue. But then he did the Super Secret Society, which was in a catacomb in Greenwood Cemetery in Brooklyn, which is a beautiful place. And then this very secret thing. And I just love, even if it's not a secret, things that will never happen again, like, oh, this person. And brought this other person out at the show, and it was really exciting. They played this duet together that's not recorded anywhere.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Anything like ephemeral is, like, of course, just extremely cool and exciting.

[B]

Do you have any of those that you go back to often?

[A]

Honestly, no. I feel like I haven't been to a lot. I haven't been to anything that's top secret. But I would literally love to please reach out.

[B]

If anyone has, you know, any secrets, tell wills about them.

[A]

I mean, if you know any secret. I mean, if you know any secrets, of course, tell me. But if you have any secret events happening, like, let me know, because I'll be there, and I won't. I won't tell a soul. I did go to. I mean, I went. It's not. It's not secret at all. But I. One of. I went out last weekend, and it was one of those places where they put. They put stickers over your phone.

[B]

Oh, sure, sure, sure.

[A]

Like on your camera. Which isn't secret at all. It's just no photographs.

[B]

I had that happen. I forget where I was that they did that. Where were you, if you don't mind my asking?

[A]

No, of course. I was at basement, kind of like a rave club place. In Brooklyn. And yeah, they put little stickers on your phone so that no one can. It's a, it's a no, no photo space, basically, which I don't care. But it. The only part was annoying was when I was trying to unlock my phone and I couldn't do with face id.

[B]

Oh, interesting. Oh, that's very funny.

[A]

That was the only real like impediment that it, that it posed to me, I think. But one of my friends went to Ellen degener stand up show that she did. Oh, sure, they did have to put their phones in bags. I was told.

[B]

Oh, yeah, a lot of. There's a lot of places that do that. That the comedy seller does that. I think a lot of the bigger venues. Yeah, yeah, I think I was also at that Ellen DeGeneres show in New York.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah, I was for sure there. It's like, I mean, I will say legitimately, I think Ellen's standup is. She's like, I had one of her cassettes when I was a little kid.

[A]

She's incredibly talented. Yeah.

[B]

One of the great standups.

[A]

It's undeniable. It's completely undeniable.

[B]

And I think there's also like, there are a few people where you're like, oh, these topics, like people talk about blah, blah, blah, airplane food or whatever. And then you like listen to Ellen's routine about airplane food from like the 80s and you're like, oh, it's hack because she did it all. Yeah, like you're just doing. It's not just like, oh, everybody has a subservation. It's like you're not doing it as well as she did it.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, she's there. She did the OG and she hit it out of the park.

[B]

Knocked it out of the park, truly. Then I think all the time about talking about putting up your seat straight up for landing, she's like, is that really making the difference? And then does the act out of like live. And then like leans two inches back.

[A]

Die.

[B]

Live, die.

[A]

Hey, no, I mean, it's very true. Look, she. Look, she's good. She's got it. Capital.

[B]

I certainly. You know what, I saw this news recently and I'm really delighted by it, which is that the Tracy Morgan Daniel Radcliffe kind of two hander sitcom, the Fallen Rise of Reggie Dinkins just got renewed for a second season NBC sitcom made by Robert Carlock, who is Tina Fey's often collaborator. I think Tina Fey is an executive producer now, but I might be wrong. And it's just so funny and Wonderful and sweet and. And I think 30 Rock obviously, is so beloved, but the other shows in that world, in that kind of, like, lineage and, you know, writer, creator, Family Tree, are so good. Like, I love girls 5eva.

[A]

Classic girls 5eva.

[B]

Yeah. So good.

[A]

My friend Kyle did a lot of the music for that. He works Tina and her husband, like, composing stuff. Yeah, Girls5Eva is awesome.

[B]

It's so good. It was on Peacock, and I think now it's on Netflix, and it's just terrific. And then I liked Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt very much as well.

[A]

I mean, of course, that was a classic. Wait, I'll have to watch the new Tracy Morgan show.

[B]

It's so good. The pilot is good. You're like, okay, this is fun. And then it's just like the whole other nine episodes of the season is, like, a notch above immediately, I think, you know, you just have to set so much up in the first episode.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, completely.

[B]

It's so wonderful and funny and sweet in a way that I think 30 Rock kind of always comes back to home base in a really nice way of, oh, we like each other and we're trying. But I think those dynamics on this show are even more earned and tender in a way that doesn't feel like fake or saccharine. It's just a real delight. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. I have to watch that. I'm behind on all my shows. I feel like, other than my reality shows, I really want to watch the Comeback because obviously I need to watch it. Have you been watching it?

[B]

I haven't. I'm, like, worried it's going to make me squirm too much.

[A]

You think so? I think the whole thing with that show is that it's a bit close to home.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

But Lisa Kudrow is so good. I have to watch that. And I also. I've. I've been watching Hacks as well, but I'm, like, an episode or two behind, I think. But I. I mean, what do you think?

[B]

Because this is last season, right?

[A]

Yeah, it is. I mean, I love this show. I really love this show. I love. It's. I. I just love it. I'm like, it, really. Meg Stalter is, like, the funniest person in the world, obviously.

[B]

Unbelievably funny.

[A]

It's incredible. I think Jean Smart is so talented. Everyone is so talented. It's just, like, amazing. Hannah Einbinder, obviously, so talented. And I think it's been, like. I just think it's been cool to watch Hannah in particular. Like, I feel like, come into her own as, like, an actor, too. And it's just been. It's, like, so well written, and so it just is a show that feels like it's made by people who really care about it and are, like, really funny.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's right.

[A]

And I'm now realizing, as I say this that I had a dream that I met Pat Regan, who's one of the writers, but that didn't happen. But it was, like, the most normal, realistic dream where I was like, oh, hey, it's so nice to meet you.

[B]

This is also certainly, like, I feel like you've been having dreams that are, like, very within the realm of possibility lately.

[A]

All of my dreams, like, I'm not joking, are, like, the most normal things. Like, even if they're, like, quote, unquote, scary dreams, it's, like, not. It's like, the stakes are so low. It's just, like, absolutely something that would happen in real life. Like, all of my dreams are literally just, like, completely normal. I, like, meet a person or I ran into someone or, like, whatever, and it's like, there's never any, like, interpretation. It's just, like. It's what it is. I had a dream about someone the other night where it was just someone, ultimately, that I have a little crush on who doesn't live here. And they came back to New York, and I woke up and I was like, damn, I wish they were back in New York. It's always, like, the most. It's just the most normal stuff. You never have to guess what my dreams mean. Really?

[B]

Yeah. You don't need to, like, go see someone who, like, closes their eyes and is, like. When you have a dream about encountering your high school crush on the day you win an Oscar, that just kind of is what it is, bud.

[A]

It kind of means that you want that to happen.

[B]

I'm like, totally. I'm like, I'm with you.

[A]

They're never outlandish. They're always very literal.

[B]

But that's beautiful.

[A]

That's my lot in life, I guess.

[B]

Yeah. Is there anything. I feel like I really pushed hard on this recommendation. Is there anything that you have been watching that you're like, oh, you gotta check this out?

[A]

Okay. I honestly don't have something that I've been watching that I recommend, but I have something that I bought that I would like to recommend. Okay.

[B]

Please.

[A]

I've been loving. I mean, I have fresh flowers in my apartment. I have, like, four small bouquets of fresh flowers. It's like, the most lovely thing in the world. So that's like the recommendation number one. What I got specifically, though, this week that has brought me just the utmost joy is I bought a lily and it's like one stem that has like four lilies on it or five or something. And two of them were in bloom when I bought it, and then three of them were not. And I woke up today in like, this morning, and when I looked, one of them had bloom. Bloomed in the night, which was like the coolest thing in the world.

[B]

Yeah. Now we're talking.

[A]

And it smells so good. My recommendation is literally like, buy lilies. It'll smell really good and you'll get to watch them bloom, which is like the most beautiful thing in the world. So it's not television, but it's just something that really has been making me happy.

[B]

Wow, that's, that's so nice.

[A]

And I think I get, I, I, I've killed some plants in my time, of course. And the thing about flowers is that, like, they will die. You know, that they will die. It's not, it doesn't feel as much of a failure when they die because that's kind of just what happens.

[B]

Y.

[A]

It's completely baked in. But it's so nice to have, like, living green and colorful things in your space. It's like the most beautiful thing in the world. So that's my recommendation.

[B]

I love that. I think that's really wonderful and beautiful. There's a book when you said just buy yourself lilies, someone I know wrote a book called buy yourself the. It's one of those, like, self help books with a very aggressive title, but it's Buy yourself the effing but, you know, crossing lilies. Totally.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And so you're just, you're living it naturally.

[A]

I'm just doing it. I don't see, I don't. This is why I don't need self help books. It's all baked in.

[B]

That's really wonderful. Well, I think this has just been such a lovely chat as always, and I want to say goodnight to you, but I also, I'm gonna say goodnight wherever she is out there in the world to friend of the show, Ellen DeGeneres.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes. I'm going to say good night to you, Josh. And I'm going to say good night to Portia, Ellen's wife.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I wish them both a restful night of sleep and I'm excited to see whatever projects they work on in the future. Good night, Josh.

[B]

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