Bad Bunny, Quad God & Traitors Fantasy Casts

Summary

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Episode: Bad Bunny, Quad God & Traitors Fantasy Casts
Date: February 11, 2026
Hosts: Sophia (A) & kp (B)
Podcast: The Nightly by Hatch Podcasts

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Overview

In this cozy, lighthearted episode of The Nightly, Sophia and kp decompress after “a freaking week” in pop culture, recapping the Super Bowl halftime show, the latest Winter Olympics controversies and highlights, and diving deep into “Traitors” (the reality TV competition). They wrap up with an imaginative fantasy-casting segment, assembling their dream cast for the next season of “Traitors,” weaving in reality stars, pop culture icons, and even scientists. True to The Nightly’s slumber party vibe, the conversation drifts warmly from scarf weather to meme-worthy TV moments, all with gentle irreverence and plenty of laughs.

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1. Pop Culture Catch-up: Personal Updates & Scarf Weather

• Sophia and kp exchange small talk, commiserating over winter essentials:
  • kp shares about braving New York's freezing weather, “I bought a giant scarf and I actually feel better now that I have that.” (01:13)
  • Sophia laments losing her favorite hat in an Uber—“Of course I looked into it to see if I could buy a replacement … the color that I have is out of stock.” (02:05)
• On the feeling of losing personal items:
  • kp muses, “This is just the tax of life sometimes … some things last you 15 years, and then you go, that's really nice. And then some things last you a short little season.” (02:54)

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2. Night Guist: Pop Culture Zeitgeist

a. Super Bowl Halftime Show

• Super Bowl round-up:
  • Both hosts admit they skipped the football for the “singing and dancing part” (04:01).
  • kp notes the “lovely little Easter eggs,” including a real wedding taking place on stage: “That couple was real. They really got married.” (04:13)
• Lineup highlights:
  • Bad Bunny headlined, with guest spots from Lady Gaga and Ricky Martin.
  • Green Day did the opening concert.
  • Sophia: “Are you like a Bad Bunny fan?” (05:02)
    • kp: “He’s on some playlists ... I think he’s really funny and cool and hot. And I like his music.” (05:06-05:18)
    • Sophia: “I honestly am not like, super familiar … But of course, I agree he is hot and as well. He is talented and he's. He's a cutie.” (05:18)

b. Olympics: Wild Moments & Luge Crash Course

• Olympic ‘jumps’ controversy:
  • kp describes athletes “injecting things ... into their nether regions, in order to create a sail like area to get more air in the jumps.” (06:13)
  • Sophia: “You saying that … is so hard for me to understand what that means.” (06:21)
• Luge explanation (07:05):
  • “Luge is like you push yourself, you’re on a sled, and then you’re going down these crazy ice turns.”
  • Intense speeds—up to 80 mph; “You could just pop right off.” (08:46)
  • kp laughs at the American team's cheery attitude despite poor performance: “Team USA … not doing well. And they're just smiling ear to ear ... Germany is like, fully ... miserable. And then USA is like, I love it here.” (08:00)
• Men’s figure skating and the “quad god”:
  • Introducing Team USA’s “quad god”—capable of “quadruple jumps, like, back to back to back and nobody else can.” (09:51)
  • Notably, he performs a now-legal backflip in competition: “Notably, he did do a backflip... that was an illegal move until 2000 and something...” (11:23)
    • Sophia: “People doing backflips on the ice is so cool ... Obviously goes without saying, could never.” (12:22)
  • The quad god wins gold in his first Olympics—“He’s merely 21.” (12:37, 12:43)

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3. “Traitors”: Recap and Analysis

• Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir as commentators and cast on Traitors:
  • Sophia: “I love when they … are finally alone and they're … queening out together … so funny.” (13:22)
• Rob as archetypal traitor:
  • kp: “Rob is a real traitor. He's a traitor to his own traitors.” (14:43)
  • Sophia confesses: “I like, want him to win, basically, at this point. And I feel scared about … Candace is going after him.” (14:46)
  • Candace as an instigator sowing doubt, even after being voted out.
• Rob’s gameplay evaluated:
  • kp observes: “It would have been a mastermind ... if you get Candace to get what you're saying ... Or if he hadn't voted for Lisa two times in a row.” (15:41-16:07)
  • kp: “I go, that is the game. You want the money to yourself. I go, that's kind of sick. Good for you.” (16:28-16:33)
• Memorable moment:
  • Sophia, on Rob’s style: “It’s rock and roll. It's freaking punk rock. He is our grunge king.” (16:33-16:37)

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4. Fantasy “Traitors” Casting (17:01–25:04)

a. Dream Drafts: Reality Stars & Cultural Icons

• kp’s picks (religious trauma theme):
  • Taylor Paul from the Mormon Wives: “Everybody loves them now anyway ... She's quite funny. She is a star.” (17:27–17:43)
  • “A Duggar”—reflecting on recent documentaries and public redemption. (17:55)
  • Chad Frankie: “He likes the spotlight ... I think that has been some of his life is he could get to the bottom of it.” (18:07)
• Sophia’s picks (Real Housewives theme):
  • “Any woman from Salt Lake City Real Housewives" —especially Mary Cosby (“wouldn’t happen”), Lisa Barlow, or Meredith Marks.
  • Sophia: “It’s all going to be gold … I wouldn't be setting them up for success. I would be setting myself up for happiness, of course.” (19:09)
• The appeal: Women from RHOSLC bring drama and “religious trauma” overlap.
  • kp: “The entire kind of thrust of their show is ... emotional, like, manipulation … lying.” (20:38)
  • kp shouts out former greats: “Phaedra, last season ... was one of our best masterful traitors ... Lord, not Ekinsu. I go, that was one of the best lines we've had.” (20:51)

b. More Fantasies: From YouTubers to Drag Queens and Scientists

• kp: “We haven’t really hit some YouTube people ... NikkieTutorials is one that I think ... she would just be having a really good time.” (21:31)
• Mamrie Hart as a nostalgia pick for Sophia (21:57)
• kp: “I love the show, Dragula ... Cynthia Dahl ... is one of the funniest people on television … She's got this like … really defensive, but also really sweet [vibe] ... I love her.” (23:13–23:56)
• Bonus picks:
  • Neil DeGrasse Tyson (“Wouldn’t he be such an interesting sort of vibe?”) (24:02)
  • Sophia raises Bill Nye the Science Guy as counterpoint (24:12)
• On mixing it up: More “civilians,” “old YouTube people,” and “older casts” for freshness.

c. Meta Moment:

• Sophia: “If any of these names come up, just know that it was our doing and all I would ask in return is I get to be on it too.” (25:16)
• kp: “We’ll take one slot too. … We can just work together. A duo team.” (25:29)

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5. Closing Vibes

• The hosts wind down: “All of this talk is getting me pretty sleepy … I got to turn in.” (25:31–25:44)
• kp: “I'm ready to fall asleep at the round table. … Good night, Sophia.” (25:44)
• Sophia: “Good night, KP.” (25:49)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On the ephemeral nature of hats and life:
  “This is just the tax of life sometimes is like, some things last you 15 years ... And then some things last you a short little season.” – kp (02:54)

• On Olympic athletes’ wild tactics:
  “They're creating a sail out of their nether region.” – kp (06:29)

• On pop stars who break the mold:
  “I love when there's like a pop guy who's like, doing it well. That is like, really fun and refreshing.” – Sophia (05:18)

• On Rob from “Traitors”:
  “He is our grunge king.” – Sophia (16:37)

• On casting Housewives:
  “I wouldn't be setting them up for success. I would be setting myself up for happiness, of course.” – Sophia (19:09)

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Notable Timestamps

• Super Bowl Halftime Recap: 03:48-05:45
• Olympic “Sail” Controversy: 06:04-06:40
• Luge Explanation: 07:04-07:59
• Quad God & Backflip History: 09:44-12:37
• Traitors Recap & Rob Analysis: 13:11-16:37
• Fantasy Cast Draft (start): 17:01

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a blend of witty pop culture analysis, easy laughs, and late-night comfort. Whether you’re a fan of sports scandals, reality TV strategy, or just hearing best friends riff from scarf weather to dream TV casts, you’ll find plenty to enjoy (and maybe doze off to).

Transcript

[A]

Hello. You're about to drift into an episode of the Nightly, a podcast designed to help you unwind and relax. For the full phone free immersive light experience. Visit Hatch Co. Enjoy. Hi there, I'm Sophia.

[B]

And I'm kp. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch, a slumber party for pop culture lovers.

[A]

How are you, kp?

[B]

What a week for pop culture.

[A]

What a freaking week.

[B]

There's some real hard hitting things happening.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In our pop culture.

[A]

Do you want to get into it or do. I'm also curious. I'm like, do you have anything personal going on that you want to share? If not, no worries.

[B]

Do I have anything personal? I mean, basically, what's up? I'm just like surviving the, the degrees that I'm seeing.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

And I'm feeling.

[A]

Because you're in New York right now.

[B]

Yeah. And I'm being really strong about it.

[A]

You're being brave?

[B]

I'm being brave. I'm being just strong as can be when I leave the house and I bought a giant scarf and I actually feel better now that I have that.

[A]

That can be really helpful.

[B]

Yeah. So that is really kind of just my. I'm just revolved around that right now and the hard hitting pop culture and the hard hitting wonder. Once in a lifetime pop culture events that are occurring.

[A]

It's a lot of wind and it's a lot of pop culture.

[B]

This past week, do you have something sort of scarf buying worthy or better?

[A]

Well, I lost a hat. So kind of opposite. I lost one of my favorite hats in an Uber, which was really sad. And it's like hard because I have other hats. Of course it's not really like a utilitarian issue. It's just that like when you lose, I feel like these days like people are like, I could barely get my phone back from the Uber driver, let alone like a hat.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's kind of gone. And of course I looked into it to see if I could buy a replacement one. The color that I have is out of stock. So that just is something that happened to me. It's okay. I accept it. I welcome hardship with open arms and I get, I grow stronger from them.

[B]

It's true. I mean, these days I'm trying to be so intentional about my buying that it does really quite suck when you lose something.

[A]

It's painful. Yeah.

[B]

Because you're like, I actually mulled that purchase over for a while and so it's really quite frustrating that I didn't have more time. But I do go, this is the cost of life. I've lost many a thing where I'm like, I wore it one time and then I'm like, truly couldn't tell you where it went. I could not tell you. And I'll see pictures of me wearing it and I go, I wish I had that. Where'd she go?

[A]

She's somewhere.

[B]

But this is just the tax of life sometimes is like, some things last you 15 years. And then you go, that's really nice. And then some things last you a short little season.

[A]

Some things last you three months. And that's also. Okay.

[B]

That was their time.

[A]

That was their. That was the time I was meant to have with that hat. Yeah, that's basically it. Okay, now maybe it's time to get into the hard hitting pop culture.

[B]

I can't. I can't hardly wait.

[A]

It's so hard hitting. I can hardly wait.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Basically, we're doing the Night Guist, which is when we go over the zeitgeist at night, and I'm wondering if you want to share what's been kind of lighting up your feed, what's been blowing up your phone, what's been taking over your time?

[B]

Let's get into it. We had the Super Bowl. I'd like to come forward and be honest. I didn't watch that part.

[A]

Of course. Of course I didn't watch.

[B]

What I did watch was the halftime.

[A]

I watched the singing and dancing part.

[B]

Yeah. I watched the arts portion of the evening. And I had a real blast, obviously. And there was just a lot of like lovely little Easter eggs. Apparently there was a real wedding in that.

[A]

Really? That was real.

[B]

That couple was real. They really got married. Right.

[A]

So Bad Bunny performed just for anyone who was honestly. And no shade been living under a rock. But just so you know, I mean.

[B]

God bless, honestly, if you are. If you get to be that tap I respect. Kind of almost jealous. Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But Bad Bunny did perform as well as some guests. We had Lady Gaga doing a song, Ricky Martin, and then Green Day did the opening concert.

[A]

I didn't know that part.

[B]

I saw that one separate also. Yeah, I mean, it was nice, but the Ricky Martin cameo was a highlight.

[A]

And the Lady Gaga, she looked amazing.

[B]

She. She looked incredible.

[A]

Her hair looks freaking fabulous.

[B]

She's getting more gorgeous as the days go on. I know.

[A]

Are you like a Bad Bunny fan? Just curious.

[B]

He's on some playlists and I'm like, not in the queue for his concert tickets. Like, I'm not queuing up for him, but I think he's really funny and Cool and hot. And I like his music.

[A]

I honestly am not like, super familiar with his music. Did like watch and obviously love the performance. It was like so good. But of course, I agree he is hot and as well. He is talented and he's. He's a cutie. He's fun. I'm like, I like it. I love when there's like a pop guy who's like, doing it well. That is like, really fun and refreshing. We don't get it. It's. It does not come across our desks often. I would say.

[B]

No. He looked like a total natural up there too. He was dancing and just each song was quite fun. And it looked like he was having fun and being himself.

[A]

He was being himself. He was living out loud. Yeah.

[B]

Now, not to move on too quick, but I also kind of spent my night watching Olympics stuff. Cause I know that is of the season two. Have you seen any?

[A]

No, but I would literally love to hear.

[B]

The drama with the jumps this year is that they're finding that athletes have injected things. Oh.

[A]

Into their private parts, into their nether.

[B]

Regions, in order to create a sail like area to get more air in the jumps.

[A]

You saying that I, like, just. It's so hard for me to understand what that means.

[B]

I don't think that's for us to know.

[A]

That one is just.

[B]

I'm gonna leave that to the medical professionals. They're creating a sail out of their nether region and.

[A]

Wait, sorry, what. What sport is doing that?

[B]

That is like the jump. So it's like you go all the way downhill, really, really fast, and then you get as much air as you possibly can.

[A]

Right?

[B]

And I think it's a length thing. It's like, how far can you.

[A]

That makes so little sense to me, but I would love to, like, have a deeper understanding of it later.

[B]

So these are the two events I did watch. I watched luge because I honestly haven't seen luge before. And I was like, what is luge?

[A]

Can you explain luge to me?

[B]

So luge is like you push yourself, you're on a sled, right? And then you're going down these crazy ice turns just downhill. But it's like you get speeds of 80 miles an hour. So it's like you're laying down, it's just you. A little sled and then the ice. It's not like a.

[A]

Going 80 miles per hour is crazy.

[B]

Yeah. You're fully open faced. There's no toboggan, like, top. It's just you in the ice. And I really started to get into it because the announcers really help, obviously.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You'll see something that, to you, looks literally perfect. You're like, whoa, that is a feat of athleticism. And they're like, oh, that is a huge mistake.

[A]

They are making horrible errors. And you're like, wow, that was one.

[B]

Of the worst runs. I was like, oh, couldn't have told you what was different. And then they're like, ooh, he lost a tenth of a second, so he will not be winning. I'm like a tenth of a. It's luge is quite crazy.

[A]

Sounds intense.

[B]

So I watched that and our USA team didn't do great on that. But it was funny that the announcers were like, and now the happiest team in the world, Team usa. And they're like, not doing well. And they're just smiling ear to ear. Every other country is like, they lose a half of half a half a second and they're just miserable.

[A]

USA's like, I'm happy to be here.

[B]

Germany is like, fully. We're having a long talk about your performance after this. They're just miserable. And then USA is like, I love it here.

[A]

So fun. I love losing.

[B]

Okay, so I saw that. That was kind of. The highlights was just. They're going really fast. 80 miles an hour.

[A]

I mean, that's literally insane. It's unbelievable.

[B]

And I would imagine it's like, well, just so dangerous. Because I think if you firstly, it's like skate sleds.

[A]

You could just pop right off.

[B]

You pop off.

[A]

I mean, and imagine how effing cold it must be as well.

[B]

That too. I mean, they're wearing little like, yes. Spandex suits. Just that.

[A]

But that can't protect you from 80 mile wind chill, do you think?

[B]

Totally. Yeah. I wasn't even thinking the wind, but.

[A]

You have a bunch of adrenaline coursing, I guess.

[B]

And they are. Because I was like, oh, I wonder what body type is like, best for these things. Because it's like, you know, when you're a horse jockey, it's like you have to be small when you're this. You have to be this. But luge, I like, couldn't tell. I mean, they look muscular, but they're not like thin framed.

[A]

You don't want to be that thin, though. Because I think like, part of it is you want a bit of a gravitational pull.

[B]

Yeah. So Team USA is a 6, 3 guy. He's kind of. He's a tall guy.

[A]

There's some hunks that are doing the loos.

[B]

Call Me, loser. Call me. So that was his. I mean, I. It's an interesting sport. And then I moved over to men's free skate.

[A]

Okay, fun. Tell me about that.

[B]

Okay, so we have somebody on our side called the quad God.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And actually Kristen talked about him in a previous episode when we had Joe and Jeremiah on from Sleepytime Sports, which was very fun. So, listeners, you can check that out if you missed it, but he's our guy. He's Team USA's guy.

[A]

Picture him.

[B]

He came out, they said he's the quad God. I'm looking at his quads, right? That's not what he's named for. Oh, I know.

[A]

What does he name for it is.

[B]

That he can do these quadruple jumps, like back to back to back and nobody else can.

[A]

That's misleading.

[B]

Totally. I mean, I. His quads aren't. Are nothing to shake a tail feather at. But using that wrong, I'm sure not even a phrase.

[A]

I love it. Wait, what is the real thing to nothing to nothing to. I don't know. But shake your tail feather out is amazing.

[B]

His quads are nothing to shake your tail feather at, as I've always said.

[A]

That is really good.

[B]

So he had like a really wild skate. So that's why I tuned in is I was hearing that, like, he really broke some, right? He. So the announcers went crazy. They were like, no one has ever done what he just did.

[A]

What did he do?

[B]

And again, I go, that's my question. I'm looking. And I go, it looked like the last thing he just did. I cannot tell the difference.

[A]

Like everything else I've seen today, he spun.

[B]

I mean, I'm like, you spin one way and then you spin another, and then it's called something completely different. And it all looks like a spin to me, of course. But notably, he did do a backflip.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

And that was an illegal move until 2000 and something. And then this woman, Surya Bonali Taylor, she performed a one bladed backflip at.

[A]

The one bladed black flip.

[B]

One bladed black flip. One bladed backflip at the 1998 Winter Olympics. And it was illegal.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And her point for doing that was like, you, I can do these moves. You're making them illegal. So you can like make women's figure skating just like, seem dainty and like you're trying to keep the princesses down. She said.

[A]

She said. So according to her, they were trying to keep the princesses down.

[B]

Something like that. And I go, that is sick. And so I think they made it Un. Illegal recently.

[A]

Yeah. Apparently. I'm hearing word that they made backflips officially legal in 2024. So this is completely. This is the first cycle. Yeah.

[B]

Yes. This is the first one to legally do it. And I thought it looked cool. He did.

[A]

I'm sure it did. People doing backflips on the ice is so cool. There's like.

[B]

Yeah. Landing one foot.

[A]

That's insane. I obviously goes without saying. Could never.

[B]

I think we can all agree that's not something we're doing. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. That's amazing.

[B]

So he's 21. It was his first Olympics. Cause he's merely 21.

[A]

Yeah. Wow.

[B]

And he won the gold.

[A]

He did win the gold. He won the gold. Okay. That's amazing. Well, we have some friends, some ice skating friends.

[B]

We did have Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir, who were our commentators in the Olympics, and we know them from their stay at the Traitor's Castle in Scotland.

[A]

Yes. Their. Their. Their tenure at the Airbnb in Scotland.

[B]

Verbo Cummings at the breakfast in bed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They are kind of treating it like that, to be honest, which I do love for them. I know, like, it's a besties trip for us.

[A]

I know. I love when they, like, when they, like, are finally alone and they're, like, queening out together for, like, a split second. It's so funny.

[B]

I do like them casting, like, IRL best friends. I'm like, it is fun. I know.

[A]

It is fun. Were you familiar with them before? Because I really am not, like, locked into, like, the Winter Olympics stuff, so I didn't really know them at all, even though I know they're, like, very famous, obviously.

[B]

I knew Tara from when I was a kid. I mean, she was kind of the name of the Winter Olympics for a while because she was quite just, like, a darling. Everybody was really stoked on her. And then Johnny, I found out about maybe last year only because, like, of course, commentating for other things, I feel like.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

Yeah. But he's just kind of like a fashion head, too. He just wears some kind of fun.

[A]

Outfits, and we see that on the show.

[B]

I loved this latest one. This, like, blue crinkle paper.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was good. That was really good. I'm curious how you're feeling generally about this, our season of the Traders and how things are going.

[B]

We have a hot season on our hands.

[A]

We do. I think people are so divided about it, but I'm, like, really enjoying.

[B]

I think it's really good. I mean, this is what you want from a season of traders, I'd say is, like, you want traitor risk feelings. You want traders.

[A]

You do want traitorous feelings.

[B]

And Rob is a real traitor. He's a traitor to his own traitors.

[A]

So I'm, like, locked in on Rob, obviously, and I, like, want him to win, basically, at this point. And I feel scared about, like, what's going to happen the way that, like, Candace is going after him. I feel scared for him, mostly. Is my preeminent feeling scared for Rob? Yeah.

[B]

Well. So you haven't seen this latest. Latest I'm hearing.

[A]

Oh, Candace went home. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[B]

Okay, great. No, I just didn't want to.

[A]

I have seen it, and I block. And I legit blocked that out. But I'm still scared for him. Is. Sorry. What I'm trying to say is that I'm scared that she. I'm scared that Candace sowed too many seeds of doubt.

[B]

Here's the thing. I mean, even liking. I love Rob. Listen, I have two eyes and a heart. I love Rob. I do believe everyone's quite divisive on him. Some are giving him, like, a misogyny edit here because he turned against two women. Some are saying he's, like, the best player of all time. I think it's somewhere in the middle.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is that, like, truly, to be honest, he did need to get Candace more in on the Lisa vote if he didn't want to have this happen. Like, it wasn't a mastermind play to get Lisa out. No, it was good, but it would have been a mastermind. If you get Candace to get what you're saying, you just have to.

[A]

I agree. Or if he hadn't voted for Lisa two times in a row.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

Like, I think that if he just, like, done it once and was like, sorry, my back was against the wall.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

And I felt like I had to do that. He would have been able to get Candace a bit more on his side afterwards.

[B]

But I think that is. I mean, he's. He's gonna be just fine. And I totally. If his goal is like, I want this money all to myself, which it seems like it is, which is really fun. Like, he wants. Now he has recruited someone and is like, I'm happy to just get this person out if I need to.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I go, that is the game. You want the money to yourself. I go, that's kind of sick. Good for you.

[A]

It is sick. It's rock and roll.

[B]

It's rock and roll.

[A]

It's freaking punk rock.

[B]

He is our grunge king.

[A]

Well, I Also was thinking to kind of like tie all of these beautiful themes together in terms of the super bowl and traders and even the Olympics. What if we did a bit of like a fantasy cast league?

[B]

This is ideal for me.

[A]

If we drafted some picks. Yeah, okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Do you want to go first?

[B]

Yeah, I'll throw a few. I have a list. But I won't. I won't go crazy. Crazy. What I think we're missing is some religious trauma.

[A]

Oh, yes, of course.

[B]

Honestly, I really do just think like, traitors is a game of like, who can you trust? Who can you believe?

[A]

No, I think that's true loyalties.

[B]

And I do think some religious trauma would be really good for us. So I'm heading over to the Mormon Wives on our first. Of course. I just think they're. Everybody loves them now anyway. Yeah, I kind of want our main girl, Taylor Paul. I think she's quite funny.

[A]

She is a star.

[B]

She's a star. And I'm not locked into like every episode of the show, by the way, but I know enough to know I think she'd be really good.

[A]

Yeah, she would.

[B]

And in that same vein, I'm going with like a Duggar. Some of the Duggars are cool now.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So I'm gonna go.

[A]

The Duggars are pretty in these days.

[B]

So I think there was a documentary recently on them. And so I go, maybe we can get a Duggar in just in general. Similarly, I'm going, Chad Frankie.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Who is an influencer now. So it's like in the realm of. He likes the spotlight. And I think he'd be an interesting one to figure out what's going on. I think that has been some of his life is he could get to.

[A]

The bottom of it. He has gone to the bottom of other realer mysteries. He could get to the bottom of the traitors. Yeah.

[B]

So those are three to start. Do you have. Do you have some.

[A]

Well, I think that I have some that could really go along hand in hand with your. This concept, which is that I obviously am dying to see any woman from Salt Lake City Real Housewives on this show.

[B]

I'm. They haven't. I mean, that's one of the best ones.

[A]

I know my first pick, which would literally never happen is of course Mary Cosby. She wouldn't. She won't even fascinated by. Participate in half of the things on the show. Real Housewives. They would not be able to get her ass on Traders. But I wish.

[B]

She's fascinating.

[A]

I know. I would love to see Lisa Barlow. I Know. Oh, my God.

[B]

Would you want these people as traitors or faithfuls or, like, kind of. It's all going to be gold.

[A]

It's all gonna be gold. Yeah. I mean, Lisa Barlow would be a horrible traitor, but I would love to know. That's the thing is, I'm like, I wouldn't be setting them up for success. I would be setting myself up for happiness, of course.

[B]

But she does speak almost so interestingly that you are like, are you lying? Like, it almost might be a double bluff.

[A]

I know. I think Meredith Marks. I. I mean, I truly would love to see any of them. Meredith, I think, could be better at being a traitor, certainly, than, like, Lisa, because she's so kind of, like, on pills that it's just like a blank slate to be, like, perfectly honest.

[B]

Would you get Jen Shaw? Could we get her post prison?

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

She would be actually really good.

[A]

She would be crazy. I mean, I am, like, scared to see Jen Shaw on my TV again because she is, like, has such a kind of explosive, I guess, just, like, at the end of the day, anger management issue. It would be astounding to see her on the show.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I honestly wonder if they. She would get voted out. Not that she's like. Like Michael Rappaport, but I could see her getting voted out in a way where they're like, you are simply causing too much chaos, and you must go whether or not you're a traitor.

[B]

And we're not sad if you were a faithful. That was kind of the gag when Michael Rappaport left and he was a faithful. Everyone was like, yes.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Yeah, I'd love to see any of those ladies. And they all. A lot of them have religious trauma, so that could be a beautiful kind of collab.

[B]

And I do think the Housewives, I mean, people dog on the Housewives for not being game players, but I am, like, they are always playing a game of who's lying.

[A]

Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm like, you guys think that these women aren't gonna be, like, good at this. And the entire kind of like, thrust of their show is, like, emotional, like, manipulation and, like, totally, like, talking behind people's back and, like, lying.

[B]

So Phaedra, last season was, I think, one of our best masterful traitors that we've had. I think she was, like, incredible Lord, not Ekinsu. I go, yeah, that was one of the best lines we've had.

[A]

I love Sagemaurkinsu.

[B]

I really loved her.

[A]

Of course, other than that, I Mean, I was also. I recently started watching this new season of Queer Eye.

[B]

Oh. Huh. Oh, wow. I forgot about the Queer Eyes.

[A]

Those guys are obviously quite odd. I don't think they would do it. But I do think that Anthony is like, the strangest man in America and that I would love to see him on Traders. He is very odd. What? Who else is on your list?

[B]

Okay, I have some. I mean, we haven't really hit some YouTube people. There's not, like, tons on YouTube that I'm like, you know, would die for. But NikkieTutorials is one that I think she's kind of loving.

[A]

That would be really good.

[B]

She's just sweet. Can be. And I'm like, I kind of think she would be really gagged to be there. I think she would just be having a really good time.

[A]

I agree. I mean, there's like, OG people. I feel like I would. This is a throwback. But if I would love to see, like, Mamrie Hart on Traitors.

[B]

No, I want some, like, old YouTube people, because I am like, that would be good. Sometimes the nostalgia people hit for people. I mean, like Stephen from the oc, he's not hitting for me, but I have never.

[A]

One Tree Hill.

[B]

One Tree, but.

[A]

And I've never watched it either. But that guy is like, literally, like the most random guy. I was watching it laughing so hard because it literally cuts to him and he is like, completely, like, dead in the eyes. Like, there's just nothing going on.

[B]

I was like, these traders could be talking in front of him about who they're gonna kill. I haven't seen anything. Sorry, guys.

[A]

I just don't know what's going on.

[B]

Sorry, what the heck? And I like that he keeps referring to himself as like, one of the strongest guys. He's like, I don't know, me and the other three strongest guys are probably gonna have to carry the team. I'm like, I know.

[A]

And being like, it's me, Colton and Rob. I'm like, so one of them is not like the others, but that's okay.

[B]

And I do go, listen, I know Johnny's small, but I am like, Johnny is an Olympian.

[A]

He definitely is, like, all muscle. Like 100% muscle.

[B]

I would say in a fight, if I'm like, okay, who do I want to get a physical feat of strength here? And I'm betting a million dollars an Olympian or Steven, the 45 year old from One Tree Hill?

[A]

I'm gonna go.

[B]

I am gonna go with Johnny. Johnny. I don't know. So I just think He's a real laugh to me. So I want somebody from old YouTube.

[A]

Yeah, I think that'd be good.

[B]

And then I do have one. And truly, this is gonna be for like two people in this world that watch this show. But I love the show, Dragula. It is like a scary drag competition.

[A]

My friends love. I don't watch it, but my friends love that show.

[B]

This latest all star season, I was introduced to a drag queen called Cynthia Dahl. And she is one of the funniest people on television. The way she speaks, let me see if I can do it without waking the entire world up. That's listening to Hatch. But she's like, wait, what the hell are you guys talking about? Ok. That's the last thing I need. She's got this like, really. She's really defensive, but also really sweet. Like she'll get in a huge fight and then be like, you know, I was just being crazy.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I love her.

[A]

I love an energy like that.

[B]

I know. I really am like, I need more people to see her because she's just really funny.

[A]

Okay, I love that.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's good. Yeah. And then my last choice, I don't like him at all, but I'm like, wouldn't he be such an interesting sort of vibe? Is Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

[A]

Yeah. And I raised you Bill Nye the science guy.

[B]

I want like a science because in one of the seasons they had like a guy from Parliament, a British.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

And I was like, it is interesting.

[A]

No, I know. It's fun. On the other seasons like that are like the civilians they do people with who have these like crazy jobs where they're like, I'm an analyst or not analyst, but they're like, I'm a whatever for like the CIA. Like, I like know all this like blah, blah, blah. So it would be fun to have someone who maybe has some type of like, I don't know, know how or expertise that isn't just reality tv.

[B]

Yeah. I was like, I think. I do think that an older cast is always nice too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because you just want to be like. You just don't want them all to be like, the 20 year olds are running away.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

So it's nice to have a mix of people in the mix. So I don't. I think he's kind of maybe not my guy, but Neil DeGrasse would be.

[A]

Certainly something like that.

[B]

He would have thoughts.

[A]

I think that we've created a beautiful kind of well rounded cast for the next season of the Traitors. And that I know people need to reach out to us and if you guys, if any of these names come up, just know that it was our.

[B]

Doing and all I would ask in return is I get to be on it too.

[A]

Yes, of course. That is the simple. That's the simple exchange that we ask.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is if you cast any of the people we have recommended you also must cast us as well.

[B]

We'll take one slot too. We'll sit on.

[A]

Exactly. We can just work together. A duo team. Exactly. But I think honestly all of this, this talk is getting me pretty sleepy. So I think I got to turn in.

[B]

I'm ready to fall asleep at the round table. I am going to sleep. Good night, Sophia.

[A]

Good night, KP.

[B]

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[A]

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