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Hi, everyone, it's kp. I hope you're having a lovely holiday season. As a gift to all of you, we are choosing our favorite episodes from the Nightly and re releasing them. Just to make sure you get to hear all that goodness. I am choosing the episode where we get to talk about how hot Bear Grylls is. This is near dear to my heart because he is hot. Thank you again for listening. We all super appreciate it and we hope to help your nights be a little cozier, a little more fun, a little more pop culture. Y. Happy holidays, my listeners, and I'll see you in the new year with new episodes. Hello, everybody. What a pleasant evening. I'm kp.
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And I'm Sophia. Welcome to the Nightly on Hatch, where you can sit by a campfire without smelling like smoke.
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Isn't that great?
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What a dream that is. Yeah, But I kind of like the smell of the smoke, too. I do.
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The next day, like, I'm like, get that off of me. Like, I'm like, day one, smoke. Lovely. When it's like, going into the washer, I'm like, I can't smell stale smoke.
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We have to get rid of this. Dang it. I have to burn all my clothes.
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She's gonna make them smell like more smoke. Oh, my goodness.
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Exactly. Until they're incinerated, you just can't win.
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How are you, Sofia?
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I'm pretty good. I'm chilling tonight. Yes, I'm absolutely freaking chilling. I'm doing well. I finished my book today.
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Oh.
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I was reading the Road by Cormac McCarthy.
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Oh, okay.
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And I finished that. And I'm feeling proud of myself.
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Yeah, I think I read that one at some point. I finished a book two days ago, and dare I say, I didn't like that one.
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Dang it. What book did you finish?
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I just kind of got it. Cause the COVID looks good. And it was sci fi, and I like sci fi, but, man, I was counting down the minutes until I could finish it.
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Ugh. Wait, what was it?
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Oh, you don't remember? What a good question. I think it's called Scott Scattered all over the Earth.
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Never heard of it.
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And it was about, like, language. And I, like, started it, and then I realized it was a trilogy. And I was like, oh, no way. We're not getting anywhere close to finishing this one. But now I'm onto a Better book. Really good.
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Okay. What's the book that you're on to now?
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Murder. You know this one.
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Okay. That was. Actually. Ended up being a Do not finish for me. Not because it was bad, just because for some reason it was hard for me to get into.
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Sometimes they're not the right time for the reason of the season.
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Yeah. Maybe I'll go back to it. I mean, I've literally heard amazing things and I did actually enjoy what I read of it. I just, like, for some reason was not feeling called back to it. Yeah.
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I think coming off of a real stinker, I'm liking it a lot. It's all context, you know, it is all context.
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That makes sense.
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And if the author of Scattered all over the Earth is listening, it's not you. I'm really sorry that I called it a stinker just now.
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It has nothing to do with you. And you're actually one of the most talented writers in America and beyond.
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You are so good to me. I did think it was funny because the COVID appealed to me, but I will say, like, the hook to get you in was like 2022 shortlisted for an award. And I was like, that seems like a lot of different, like, kind of qualities to put on it. I said, let me know if it wins. I don't need to know.
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Did it win in 2022?
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Shortlisted for, like, an award I've never heard of.
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Okay. Yeah. Well, sometimes they just want to have that, like, emblem.
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Of course, I haven't been shortlisted for anything again. Author, you're wonderful.
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Nor have I, that I know of. Maybe I have been and then they just never reached out because it didn't come to fruition.
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But we're two years from now. We're Varieties comics to watch, though I do know that. Yeah, I've heard the murmurs.
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Yes. I have four more years to be on Forbes 30 under 30, so we'll see how that all shakes out.
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So, as we talk about things beyond books.
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Yep.
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Is there anything you've been really mulling over in your head? Anything you've been curious about this evening?
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Yes. Something I've been thinking about a lot is extreme sports.
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I heard.
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Okay, well, basically, I love extreme sports because I find them highly interesting and I love watching documentaries about them. So I've watched a lot of documentaries about, like. Obviously I've watched all the rock climbing ones. Yes.
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There's a lot of those.
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That is like, the beginner's level, in my opinion, for, like, the documentaries on extreme sports. I've watched all of Hundred Foot Wave, which is like big wave surfing, right?
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Yeah.
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I don't know if you know about that. And what else have I indulged in? I also was thinking about this because someone recommended to me the like, F1 documentary on Netflix.
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Oh, sure. People really go nuts for that one.
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Yeah. Really, really liked. But I just find them incredibly interesting. I was thinking about, like, the Red Bull Games.
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Yes. I'm frequently thinking about those.
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That is something that it was kind of like a flash in the culture that I think about a lot. But yeah, I'm intrigued by extreme sports. It's not a sport that is extreme necessarily, but I just rewatched the movie Wild, which is where the woman walks.
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Bird watching or something.
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Oh, no.
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Nope. Never saw a bird in her whole journey.
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She was. She didn't see not one single bird.
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I'd like to fact check that.
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I think she sees a bird, but it' bird watching. She walks like a thousand miles.
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I'm sure she saw one or two.
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But she definitely saw some birds for sure. Sorry to shut you down so quick, but the movie about bird watching. No.
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Yeah. I'm realizing why I thought that, which is after a breakup, I got into bird watching and it was around the time that movie came out. And I thought, she's just like me. And I had never seen the movie, but I needed to be relatable in that time. Grasping at anything that makes sense.
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That makes sense. And in a way, you guys were going through similar things. Yeah.
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She walked a thousand miles. I saw, you know, pigeons.
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I saw pigeons. And what about it? Yes. Where do you come to extreme sports from?
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Yeah. I will say my take is that I think they are cooler and more impressive than the Olympics. That's kind of my take is I really liked the X Games when they were like the height of skateboarding. I thought that was really cool to tune into. And I do think Red Bull. I mean, I'm still getting the clips. I know you think it peaked relevancy wise. I think we're just getting started over in the Red Bulliverse.
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It's still highly relevant.
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So some of us never left.
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Some of us are still living in the Red Bull. Okay.
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I mean, I would like to know if you've seen the greased up pole competition.
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No, I would love for you to tell me about the Greased up pole competition.
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So that one's really important to me. That is sort of like a tree length. A really long. And I like that. I say tree length as if they're one size, but you know, a large Tree.
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Yeah, I know, I know. We're thinking the same size.
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They grease it up, Vaseline it, butter it, whatever it is. They grease that pole right on up. And at the end of that pole is a flag. You have to run from the edge of the cliff. Run, run, run, run, run. It's all greasy. And try and snatch that flag at the end of the pole and it's very hard.
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I do kind of know what you're talking about. That is crazy.
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I'd rather watch that than, you know, most Olympic sports. I'd say tennis. I'd rather watch grease pole.
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So the thing about me is that I love watching the Olympics, but I also love extreme sports. So I'm not like fully disagreeing with you, but I think I might like watching some of them equally, like for the Olympics. There's a lot of things I don't care to watch, obviously. So I think, like I would probably enjoy the whole of the X Games more than I would enjoy the whole of the Olympics.
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I think that's really fair. And honestly, what I will say, I'm going into the pillow fort library right now because the breadth of extreme sports does range really wild. I like kind of forgot that like surfing and water is a whole.
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Yeah.
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Like 20 of them. So they separate them really cool. Which is they separated by earth sports.
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By earth, wind and fire, water sports.
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Snow and ice sports, and then air sports.
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Yes, yes.
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Which I think is sick.
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I'm seeing one in this book that I would love a definition for, which is Zorbing. Do you know what? You don't know what that is?
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I'm assuming that's the most extreme sport name I just looked up. I flipped to what it is. Can I describe it to you?
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Yes, please.
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You're gonna really freak. Zorbing is where a person rolls downhill inside those huge transparent inflatable balls.
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Wow.
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You've seen a Zorb?
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Of course I've seen a Zorb. That to me, I'm like, almost, how is that a sword even?
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I am wondering, like, what's the goal? Fast speed or is there obstacles?
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Maybe there's obstacles. I am wondering, yeah, like, how do you better yourself at that? So in the book that we have, I'm just seeing a photo of Zorbing and it's just. Yeah, someone kind of sort of careening down a grassy hill in a huge see through ball. Which is really cool. Do you have like an extreme sport that if you had to do slacklining. Oh, you think you'd be best at slacklining?
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I'VE done it a few times in college.
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Yeah.
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And that's brave of me to admit, by the way. Of course, I've done it a few times in college. And I do have really good balance. I don't have, like, you know, great hand eye, but I have pretty good balance. I could. I could get up there and I could stay up there. And I said, okay.
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You got that low center of gravity.
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Yes. Pear shape.
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Yes. That's not what I said.
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Say what you mean next time.
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I would never say that.
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And I. When I did it in college a few times. And of course, I did do it because I had a crush on a boy.
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Literally, of course.
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Listen, we all tale as old as time.
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Look, it's actually worse if you were doing that of your own volition.
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100% doing it to chase a dirty, unshowered boy is my rite of passage as a college adult. And I was pretty good. And I did buy my own slackline. That's how into it I. I felt.
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And did you ever use your slackline that you bought yourself?
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I would say once.
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Yeah.
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Probably one time on that one.
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Yeah. This is not an extreme sport at all. But it is, like, really spiritually similar and related to slacklining, which is that my dad, kind of out of nowhere, sent me, like, one of those portable hammocks that you can put up in the park.
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Yeah.
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Which I think people actually would call mocking. That's what my friend told me that they called it at her school. And I said, this is so lovely. It's really not, like, in line with my vibe or spirit or personality. So I gave it to my friend who appreciated it. Yeah. I was like, you will use this, like, at least twice, which is more than I will use this.
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Yeah. I do think I have, like, a few camping gear things that I'm like, 364 days of the year, I'm not touching this. But I'm excited when it comes out.
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That one day, but one time, it's gonna be highly relevant. Yeah.
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I have, like, one where you catch the wind in the inflatable couch. Have you seen people sort of run on the beach with those?
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Yes. That is really fun.
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Really quite comfortable.
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Yeah.
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I got sent it for free, so it wasn't really like. I was passionate, but I. I'll sing its praises. I have a good time.
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That is really beautiful. To catch the wind in your couch.
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Yes. And that's the next book I'm reading, which I've been excited for.
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It's kind of a stunning sentence. Yes. The Wind beneath my couch. Mm.
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So I'm looking up another one, by the way, which confused me as much as zorbing did, which is helibiking. And it appears.
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Wait, let me guess first before you tell me. Yeah, I'm trying to visualize helibiking. I mean, you're biking in the air. Somehow the bike is flying. The bike must be in the air.
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It's hella biking.
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I'm biking hella around.
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Hella biking on this one. Say no to chairlifts and catch a ride in a helicopter. Helibiking is perfect for searching and discovering new lines, exploring new terrains, and turning the mountain into your canvas. So it appears that you are just dropping from a helicopter in your bike onto the trail.
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Oh, wow. Okay. Okay.
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That seems like what that one is.
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And how do you survive that? You have a parachute or something?
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I don't think you do. It looks like they get really quite close to the ground, and then you sort of just like, ramp down.
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Okay, cool.
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And I think that's what makes it the extreme, I would assume.
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Oh, yeah. It might even just be getting dropped off in remote places, which I will.
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Say, for having it as the first word, it's not that much about the helicopter. That's sort of the first way you can get there.
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So the helicopter is actually not connected to the bike.
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Yeah. It would sort of be called, like, bus restaurant. It's like you just took the bus to the restaurant.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It wasn't really part of it. Well, can I ask also?
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Yeah.
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Now with the documentaries, what was your thoughts on the F1?
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I haven't watched F1 yet because that was the one that was recommended to me, and I was like, that is right up my alley, because I love documentaries about extreme sports. So. Have you watched it at all?
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No, I had a NASCAR phase.
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Yeah. I feel like people have been getting into it.
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I think it's, like, quite thrilling when you know what's going on. But I did lose the interest just as fast as I gained it.
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Totally.
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So I think F1 might hit the same for me where I'm like, okay, smitten by knowing a little bit, but I don't want to know. There's like, a jumping off point where I'm like, I can't learn any more about this. I've reached all I need. But I did just kind of recently watch that.
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I'm.
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I'm really obsessed with, like, the climbing ones, and I know they're for the beginners, as you said, but the.
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It's Not. I just think it's an entry point. I just feel like that's the one that like a lot of people have.
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Seen Nymp's Purga with his seven peaks in 14 months or something.
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Oh, I haven't watched that.
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Okay, that one.
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I should watch that.
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That's an extreme individual. There's like seven peaks that are above 8,000 altitude, which is like the death zone. So human life cannot necessarily exist.
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But if you're really special, sometimes it can.
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And if you have sort of 100 tanks of oxygen, you can make it work.
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Yeah, totally.
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So he decided to do those faster than. In like right succession. Faster than should ever be possible. Cause you should really only do like one a year because it's like you have to train and there's only like two months. You can get to most of them. Yeah, but he did all seven of them in 14 months, which is like, wow, absurd. So he did. Yeah. K2 Everest.
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I want to watch that. I want to watch the. I really like the climbing ones are some of my favorite ones. Like obviously there's free solo, which we all kind of know about. Alex Honnold, who doesn't have the fear center in his brain. If only we could all be so lucky, then I'd be doing stand up comedy all the time. But Alex Arnold, I'm like, have you tried doing stand up comedy before? I think it'd be really easy for you.
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If you like mountain climbing with no parachute, you're gonna love open microphones.
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I have an amazing idea for you.
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In this climbing one that I just watched. They were like. So we went to a Britain guy that knew this climber who held the record for the youngest British guy to ever the summit Everest and who pops on the screen but Mr. Bear Grylls.
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Wait, who is that?
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Oh, now this is exciting. Bear Grylls used to have a show called man vs Wild, I think it was called.
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Oh, of course I know. Man versus Wild. I watched that show as a child. That was like me and my mom watching that for sure.
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Me too. I like those shows. I mean. And he's like genuinely so sweet and nice and he would eat the wackiest stuff. I felt like he to me was akin to Steve Irwin where it was like positive attitude, totally smiling through it all. Can't believe this is his life. Great vibes.
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Oh my gosh. Wow. I need to revisit that show as well.
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So Bear Grylls was not just like a kooky guy survivalist. I think he was like the youngest British guy To summit Everest. There was more backstory than I remembered. And he appeared on my TV again. It was nice to remember the guy.
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Oh, my gosh.
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I'm gonna look up a little more on Behr. Cause I am, like, if he has this much lore that we didn't know and we used to watch the show. Cause I watched it when I was a child also.
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Yeah, I watched that, like, definitely with my mom.
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Yes. That was, like, of the age, too, where Survivor was just kind of coming out. Like, there was a lot of people interested in survivalism. All right, I'm going to give you some Bear Girls lore drop here, by the way.
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Okay. Please.
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So he has a second black belt in Shotokan karate.
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Okay. Period.
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As a teenager, he learned to skydive.
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Of course.
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He was, like, a part of the Royal Yacht Squadron in sailing.
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Okay.
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This is all, like, before he hit, like, 20.
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Also, sorry. He's sexy. I'm looking at a photo of him.
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Oh, wake that up. He sure is.
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Just so you guys know, we have a bunch of photos of Bear Grylls in the pillow fort. We have a bunch of posters of him hanging up.
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Thank you to the librarians for putting that in.
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Cause he's cute. So know that.
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He is cute. And I think he's, like, a loving husband. Been with his wife since 2000. Oh, wow.
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He's young, too. He must have been really pretty young on that show.
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I guess so. Yeah. Because he's 51 now, so. 2006. He was 30. 30, something like that.
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Exactly.
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Great. Oh, and Bears, his nickname. Okay. Real name.
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I mean, Edward.
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That makes sense to me.
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A little bit sense to me.
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I was always a bit curious why this British man was named Bear.
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Yeah, of course. I wonder if that's a common nickname for Edward. But okay, that. You know what? So I've learned so much.
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Yeah. He's really something. That was a good show.
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He is something.
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He's something.
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Yeah. This is kind of related. I really want to go to an American Ninja Warrior gym.
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I think that would rock so badly.
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I know. Which is, like, for the uninitiated, that was also a show. American Ninja Warrior.
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Yes.
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And I guess. I don't know, they just have these gyms that are, like, basically obstacle courses, like, intense obstacle courses where you just have to do all of these different. You have to, like, jump on things and, like, twirl around and scramble and climb, and I think it would be so fun.
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I see that people starting their kids, like, so young on those, too. I also think I'm Like, I'm sure with every sport, you starting young is, like, half the battle.
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Yes.
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To get, like, good at it. Because I'm like, you know, gymnastics, figure skating, it's like, these people started at 18 months that are in the Olympics.
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So it is, like, out the womb onto the balance.
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I mean, all of them. I'm like, you can't start any of these. I'm looking through back at our list that started it all of all the extreme sports. And I'm like, I don't think you could start any of these at, like, 22 and be good like these. You all have to start at, like, 12.
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Watch me.
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Except for you.
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Everyone.
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Except for you. I'd be worried.
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Well, I'm gonna get really good at hella biking, so watch out.
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That was the one that really spoke to me.
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And gorking. Is that what it's called? Zworping? I'm gonna invent a new sport called gorking. And y' all don't even know what that's gonna be.
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Gorking could be good. Gorking could be really something.
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Gorking is gonna go crazy.
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I think the skateboarding. I mean, I think skateboarding. When I think extreme sports, I do think skateboarding. But do you have a separate one that, like, your brain goes there?
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Well, I think squirrel suiting.
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That is really interesting.
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So I think jumping with a squirrel.
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Suit on, that can't be what? It's called wing suiting.
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Okay. I'm like, no, it is called squirrel suiting. It's because you're putting on an outfit that turns you into a sugar glider. Yeah.
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You're not wrong about the mechanics.
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Yeah. But if you look up squirrel suiting, that will also come up.
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You're gonna get to the right place either way on that one. Would you do that?
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What is it called?
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Sorry, Wingsuiting.
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It's called wingsuiting. No, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't jump into a canyon. No, that. No, of course not. I would never do that.
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Maybe like, if it was indoor into, like, a foam pit.
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Of course. That I would do.
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I would like that.
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That's why I need to go to the American Ninja Warrior gym. I would also do the thing you're, like, in the tube with the air blowing, which seems kind of similar.
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I've seen so many people have so much trouble in those, and it's really funny.
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I know. It's really funny when they're struggling. Yeah. I was just. I feel like we probably saw the same video of, like, a girl on TikTok, who was really struggling with that.
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Having such issues getting up in there.
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Yep.
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I'd like to give you your flowers and give you your justice, because I just did one more look on wingsuiting and you are completely allowed to call it squirrel suiting.
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Look at that. Look at that. As always, I'm coming out on top.
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Never been wrong a day in your life.
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I was so out of it. When you tried to say no, I was like, no, it is called squirrelsuiting.
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I didn't look at the bottom, the sort of addendums, which is. Yeah, you can even call it Birdman suiting, bat suiting. But I think squirrel suiting is like, immediately I know what that was. Yeah.
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See, look, look. And that's how language works. So.
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Language is so beautiful and so is sleep. I think now that I know we were all very right about everything extreme, I think I'm gonna go hit the hay.
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I think I'm gonna do the same. I can go out on a high knowing that I was correct. Good night, kp.
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Good night, Sophia. Sam.
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Date: January 1, 2026
Co-hosts: KP and Sophia
This cozy, late-night podcast episode from "The Nightly" is a pop culture-infused wind-down chat between hosts KP and Sophia. The conversation drifts from the appeal of campfire smells and book recaps to a deep dive into extreme sports—including their favorite documentaries and the surprisingly layered backstory (and attractiveness) of Bear Grylls. The tone is playful, a little self-deprecating, and warmly conversational, making for an engaging listen tailored for listeners relaxing at the end of the day.
Timestamps: 01:00–04:21
Timestamps: 04:21–10:01
Timestamps: 10:01–12:44
Timestamps: 12:44–15:28
Timestamps: 15:28–18:09
Timestamps: 18:09–20:44
Timestamps: 19:40–21:41
On Grease Pole Competition:
“I’d rather watch that than, you know, most Olympic sports. I’d say tennis. I’d rather watch grease pole.”
— KP (07:40)
Bear Grylls is Attractive:
"He's sexy. I'm looking at a photo of him."
— Sophia (17:11)
Femininity and Extreme Sports:
“I did do it [slacklining] because I had a crush on a boy…chasing a dirty, unshowered boy is my rite of passage as a college adult.”
— KP (10:19)
On Early Specialization:
“It is, like, out the womb onto the balance.”
— Sophia (19:02)
On Squirrel Suits and Language:
“You are completely allowed to call it squirrel suiting.”
— KP (21:13)
Sleep and Satisfaction:
"Language is so beautiful and so is sleep. I think now that I know we were all very right about everything extreme, I think I'm gonna go hit the hay."
— KP (21:41)
This episode is perfect for winding down, offering both informative and comedic takes on the thrill—and surprising accessibility—of extreme sports, all wrapped in the hosts’ playful rapport. Whether you tune in for Bear Grylls admiration, cozy book suggestions, or to marvel at the wild subgenres of athleticism, you’ll leave both entertained and just a little more in-the-know.