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Hey there. I'm Sophia.
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And I'm Josh. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch, a slumber party for pop culture lovers. Sophia, how are you? It's so nice to see you.
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It's nice to see you too, Josh. I'm sleepy as we're want to be in the pillow fort. I'm like, maybe I'm losing my voice a little bit. Cause I was yelling probably last night.
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But tell me more about what you were yelling about last night.
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I was at. There's like a. There's an amazing lesbian party that happens every. Every month that I was going to last night that I wasn't yelling there, but I think I was like, my voice was raised, and then now it's. It's gone a little bit. But yeah, it was. So that's what I was doing. It was fun. I just was like, I got very socially overwhelmed.
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Oh, I understand.
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But I had an amazing time.
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Is it a big, like, a lot of people there?
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It's a lot of people there. And I had one point where I was like, I'm running into so many people. And then I kind of got back to my friend, and I was like, now I'm safe, is how I felt.
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Oh, that's good. Wait, were you running into so many people that you knew that were, like, outside your friend group or just, like, encountering new people and having to meet them over and over?
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The first thing, the people that I knew, yeah.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah. Which is fun. But it felt like. Felt like there was a moment where everyone, like all of my friends ran into three people at once. And I was like, I feel so overwhelmed right now.
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And you're like, oh, okay, we all have to. Now this group that I'm in is now so much bigger, and I'm having to do the same small talk, pleasantries over loud music. Yeah.
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But all in all, I had an amazing night. How are you feeling, Josh?
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I'm doing really well. I feel like my updates have been similar lately, but I've been on the road a lot, and I've gotten to do so much super fun stuff. This week. I moderated a Q and A for the hosts of Taskmaster, the British comedy game show. And I love Greg and Alex, the taskmaster and the assistant to the taskmaster. And I was with them in Philly and D.C. and two in New York. And it's been so much fun. And I get to kind of like, bask in the glow of having done that.
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Oh, that's nice. That's exciting.
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It was a blast. I do want to say. Cause it's outside of my own life, there has been a lot of very, like the nightly type news. Oh, we. You know what I mean? Like, a lot of big cultural recently that we haven't taken much time to talk about. And we got a letter, an email. You know, nobody put pen to paper, licked a stamp. I don't even know if you like stamps anymore.
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Sealed with wax.
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Sealed with wax. Absolutely. Yeah. Sent by pigeon.
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Of course.
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They wanted to hear us talk about the IU Indiana University football win in the national championship, which is. It was really exciting. It's a team that has not historically had a great football program. And their quarterback, Fernando Mendoza, is so talented and likable and enthusiastic. And so this was like a really fun, you know, it's different than, oh, the same four college football teams are competing for the championship. Was this story on your radar at all, Sofia?
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You know, it wasn't.
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I assumed it wasn't, you know, that.
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It was helpful when you said what you stood for in iu. And I definitely know who University. Fernando. Right. Obviously I meant I. But that's amazing. I'm like, what does the U mean? I also don't know who Fernando Mendoza is, but I'm, of course, extremely excited for everyone who this is important to. I feel connected to you. I actually even feel excited for IU as well as the players and in particular, Fernando Mendoza.
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I love this.
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Wait, do you want to tell me your. Your, like, relationship to this story?
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So I grew up. I'm a big sports fan, but I grew up in a place without a lot of. Without the biggest attachment to college sports. I feel like there are, you know, towns where you grow up near a college town and. Or in a state where there's not a lot of professional sports and you're like, oh, the Tennessee Volunteers, because I grew up near UT or, you know, the University of Tennessee is like, a big deal for me, and I just grew up outside of that culture, so I feel like such a college sports dabbler. But I. I was really heartened because I feel like my. This is maybe my own bias talking. They talk about the purity of college sports because the athletes aren't highly paid or whatever. And now that's changed a little bit with the name, image, and likeness rights that players are allowed to claim for themselves. But also, I always was just like, it's not that fun to me to be like, yeah, this is good, because the people that you are watching and cheering for don't make any money.
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No, it is like, well, thank God that they can make a little cash off of it now.
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Yeah, that's how I feel. But also, that kind of means it, like, levels the playing field because, like, these colleges and universities that are spending a little more money and, like, being a little more savvy instead of just being, like, the traditionally dominant teams are have a chance. And so this was kind of an exciting story, and it was fun to follow.
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I mean, yeah, I love. I love an underdog story. Of course.
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Of course. So with that mentioned, so everybody knows our thoughts on the college football National Championship.
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A huge shout out to iu. Of course.
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Big shout out to iu. Big shout out to Fernando Mendoza. We're going to play a little game called scroll for you.
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Yes.
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Sofia, you usually lead this. You usually walk me through what's been on your timeline.
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I know.
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For the week.
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I know I tell you the things that have come across my desk. But today you're gonna tell me the things that have come across your desk.
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We're flipping it. And I'm gonna tell you what I've been seeing. This is a perfect day for this because I've been seeing so much stuff on my timeline that I have only seen, like, the contours of these stories, and I've had to do a little research.
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Okay. I'm really excited.
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I've been traveling so much, and I would just see this and be like, I don't have time for this. And then I finally, when I got home, was like, okay, what is the deal? This is the first one that I keep seeing people talk about with the Beckham family drama.
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Wait, I need you to tell me. Cause I don't know. And I've also been wondering the same thing.
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Okay. I thought maybe you would be in the loop on this. Let me help you and any listeners that are out there. So Brooklyn Beckham is the son of David Beckham, the soccer or football, if you will, star. And Victoria Beckham, his wife, AKA Posh Spice. Right. Was she Posh Spice? She was Posh.
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Yeah, she was. She was Posh.
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And she still is posh, of course. So Brooklyn Beckham and his wife, Nicola Peltz, are in a feud with David and Victoria Beckham. It seems like part of the inciting incident here. What kicked this off? It centered around their wedding, which was a few years ago. Nicola Peltz was supposed to wear a gown designed by Victoria Beckham. And then late in the game, that switched up and she wore a gown from a different designer, which seems like it started a lot of family tension.
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Yes. I remember when the wedding happened that there was this stuff and I kind of heard about it, But I have since now that there's a new wave of information or whatever that is what I don't know about. But I didn't remember the part that Victoria Beckham design the dress. I didn't even know she did that.
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I also didn't know she did wedding dresses. Yeah. But this was a big thing where she didn't wear the dress. And then there's been conflicting reports over whose fault that was. Like, I think from the parents side, they're saying, oh, she was supposed to wear this dress. And then she bailed on us. And then from the other side, from Brooklyn and Nicola, they're saying, oh, no, the dress wasn't ready. She said at the last minute she didn't have the dress that they promised. So that obviously wedding dress stuff really causes tension.
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Of course. Wedding stuff in general really causes tension.
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Totally. Of course. Every little thing is so magnified.
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Yeah.
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And the other big story to come out of the wedding was that when they were getting ready for their first dance as a couple, instead of a romantic dance between husband and wife, apparently Victoria Beckham danced very sensually with her son.
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Okay, this is what I saw is that before, like, she danced inappropriate, which.
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Is so funny to me. And like, I know I am not. I can't imagine having a rift with my mom. I mean, I guess I have a very different mom, but I can't imagine a, like, years long rift with my mom over, like, her dancing too sexy at my wedding.
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I know. And I'm like, wait, what does that mean? Like, yeah, I get. Okay, because they're saying she danced too sexy while they were dancing together, her and her son. So I'm like, what does that mean? This is an interesting thing that happens, though, obviously. I'm also like, who knows what of this is true. But the thing of, like, the mother who's like, okay, you just want to date your son.
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Yeah, totally. For sure.
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That's your little boyfriend. And now you're upset that he's getting married and we need to work through that.
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And it seems like there's been a lot of other, like, broader family forces kind of pushing on this. Like, Brooklyn Beckham has said that the Beckham family brand feels more important to his parents than being a family. So, like, just you know, signing over his name rights and likeness rights or whatever for business purposes. And, like, not getting to spend a lot of quality time with his parents because they, you know, they're such big social figures and celebrity figures. And so this kind of bubbled up this week with them really speaking out about it, what they felt was going on.
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So this came directly from Nicole. It's Nicola.
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Yeah, Nicola and Nicola. I'm not 100% sure, but. And Brooklyn. Yeah, I think they.
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It's like they made, like, a statement kind of.
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Yeah, they came out and were like, yeah, these are the things that are happening. Like, I feel this pressure with my parents, and it's just not a healthy dynamic. And then I think David Beckham and Victoria Beckham made a statement that was just. Or David Beckham especially was like, you know, I just love my kids and want them to make good decisions or something. You know, like something kind of vague.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Thank you for teaching me about that. I really have been truly curious.
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This was all over my timeline. Cause this happens a lot. Just the idea of people tweeting, like, wow, this Beckham family story is really a mess. Like, whoa, eyes emoji. Beckham's and. But nobody explaining the story on my timeline. And I had to, like, really get deep and go to the primary sources.
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I feel like that's what was happening to me on TikTok, because I was seeing people, like, make jokes in reference to it, but I didn't. I didn't understand actually what was going on.
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Yes.
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So I'm. I'm really glad to know.
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Same. Sophia, now that you know the ins and outs of this conflict. Have you picked sides?
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I don't know. That's a good question. I. Okay, so the way that I feel is that I'm probably. I kind of. I'm leaning on towards the side of the. Of Brooklyn and Nicola, just because I feel like when I first heard about the wedding and the drama, it is, like, such a classic thing for you to people to get, like, married into a family or whatever, and then the family is all crazy at the wedding and is not really, like, happy that you're there. And I feel like maybe. I don't remember where I was, like, listening to this, but it felt like maybe the Beckhams wanted to kind of, like, absorb Nicola into the family and not have her, like, just, like, have her, like, do whatever they wanted, I think, with, like, the dress thing or whatever, like, designing a dress for her. But I also. Honestly, I like David and Victoria. I Watched their little documentary on Netflix like last year or something. So I do also feel like that PR worked on me, so I'm like, no, they're not mean. So I'm having a hard time really picking sides. But do you have a. Do you have an opinion?
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It's tough because I do think the, the dress conflict does sound stressful. And I bet it is. It is its own kind of stress to be the child of two massively famous public figures who want you to be a part of their professional life. Like as a family member. Not just I work for the family business, but I being me is the family business. Yeah, but that said, I mean, you could get a different job then. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. So it is totally.
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I do feel like the, the Beckham parents seem like they've been a little bit much.
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Yeah. I mean, the thought of your soon to be mother in law wanting to design your wedding dress and having to navigate how to like not do that.
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Yes.
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It sounds so stressful and so bad and scary both ways.
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Right. If it's, if it's Nicola Peltz now, Nicola Peltz Beckham saying like, oh, sure, mom, like design that dress, whatever, like that's a pain. Or if it's, if it's Victoria Beckham not delivering on the kind of dress that they had talked about or whatever. Either way, I'm like. Or somewhere in the middle, I can see that all being really stressful and putting a strain on a family relationship. Especially like a new family relationship.
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Yes. Well, maybe, maybe we'll have more information and that'll help me really lock in whose side I'm taking.
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We'll keep monitoring this story and we will take a side because that is important that we do that.
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It is important. Someone has to be right and someone has to be wrong. And we have to decide.
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I have one other story. I wonder if you will feel the same way as I did. I was seeing so many posts about the drama surrounding the Glambot guy.
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Oh, okay. This. I also don't know the full story of the JLO thing though.
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But it's more than the JLO thing.
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Okay, okay, okay. I saw. Should I tell you what I know?
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Yes, please.
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So I saw the clip of JLO with the Glambok guy and I guess maybe things have changed since what I saw, but people were upset with JLO because she like, I guess wasn't like effusive enough or something. Did you watch the video?
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I haven't seen the video. I've been doing A lot of reading about it.
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Okay.
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Because the subsequent drama has eclipsed the JLO part. I think the subsequent drama has eclipsed the JLO situation. Yeah. So there was this is from the Golden Globes a couple weeks ago where J. Lo was taking a photo with the Glambot camera. It's this, like, super fancy camera setup that's like, very slow motion, and it.
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Like, moves around you, and the celebrities do a pose, and it's fast, and then it switches to slow motion.
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And it's for. They use it a lot on red carpets. And this guy, Cole Walliser, who is not the inventor of the Glambot camera, I've heard, but has been its director, has worked on red carpets of this for a while. And so he was taking photos and video on the red carpet of the Golden Globes. And JLO was very businesslike. She did it, and she wasn't like. It wasn't super chatty about. It was just like, oh, this is one of the stops on the red carpet.
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Yeah. I mean, that's the thing is, like, she's walking down doing probably, like, 1 billion little, like, junkets where I'm like, yeah, she's just, like, saying hi and doing her business. I didn't find it to be offensive.
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Totally. And he said he made a video. Cole Wallacer, the Glambot guy.
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Oh.
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Said, hey, I don't take any offense at this. Like, some people are really chatty when they do this. But, like, she's at work, and so I'm not gonna expect her to be overly friendly or have extra time for me among this, like, workday that, you know, amidst this workday that she is in the middle of. And I don't think that caused any additional drama. But then a woman named Yinka Animashan, or Animashan. Excuse my pronunciation.
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Okay.
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Had emailed him about bringing the Glambot to her wedding.
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Oh, okay.
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And so this was where it really blew up, I think further.
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Okay.
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She emailed him and was like, hey, I would love to book you and the Glambot for the wedding. And he basically was like, look, this is really expensive. I don't know if you can afford it.
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I mean, that's my first question as well.
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Right. But he wasn't like, here's how much it costs. He was just like, it's pretty expensive. And she was like, yeah, I figured. Like, basically emailed back and was like, I figured because it's at the Oscars, this is a big ticket item.
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Yeah.
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But, like, I have money to pay.
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For services I know I am like, the person who's. Who's seriously inquiring about that has enough money to pay for the glambot, but I am like, damn, how much is the glambot?
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Great question. He said, I don't see how you could be confident that you can afford it, because I didn't say how much it was. And it, you know, it could be between $10,000 and a million dollars.
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He said that?
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Yeah.
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Okay, well, it's not a million dollars, first of all. It's not 10,000 do. And it's not a million dollars. And we all know that. It's like. It's like, that's a. Probably a really rich person who's like, I have an idea of how much this could be.
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Do you have a. Do you have a guess of how much it is? It is between 10,000 and 1 million. I'll give you that hint.
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I honestly think it could be $200,000.
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You are in the right ballpark. He quoted her $300,000 for.
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Feels so good to be right.
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A crew. You were right there. A crew of about 15 people and all the equipment and drop off and pick. So he said $300,000.
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Oh, my God. That is so crazy.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that is, like, what I would picture it being in terms of, like, what the Oscars would pay for it or even, like, more or whatever. But it is like, the thought of, like, paying that guy $300,000 to do that at your wedding is, like, so insane, obviously.
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And so people are now, like, on this guy's butt, being like, dude, you're just some guy. Like, this is someone wanted to, like, book a piece of equipment and someone to operate it. You're not like, the Greta Gerwig of Glambot. Like, slow down, Relax.
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I know. I mean, that's the other question, too, is I'm like, aren't there other people who do the same thing?
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I think so. And people are kind of questioning, like, is this guy even needed? Like, can someone else operate the glambot? Like, are there other comparable camera systems that you could book? But, yeah, I think the Jennifer Lopez thing kind of triggered this woman who had tried to book the glambot in the past to speak out, and that has, like, brought an avalanche down on this guy.
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Oh, my God. That's crazy. It's just unprofessional to respond like that. Obviously. It's so crazy.
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Yeah.
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Especially, like, it's just so interesting where it's like, obviously he's not, like, a celebrity, but I'M like, you're like a public, a front facing person who, like, people know what you look like and know who you are. And it's like people are dying to expose anyone that they can.
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I know.
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You gotta be careful.
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Totally. And it's like he's also, it seems like he is not of a stature where people feel compelled to like, if he's rude, keep it under wraps, you know, like, nobody's like, the glambok guy is gonna crush me. He'll bury me if I say this.
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No, no, no, not at all. Or like, or like it's also that he's in this like another kind of precarious situation where it's like people know who you are and know what you look like, but it's not like they're like your fans, they're like watching because they like, like the celebrities that you're glam bodifying or whatever, they're not gonna necessarily be like, defend you. You can't stand beside you 100%. Oh, wow.
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So those are the two dramas that I'd been kind of seeing people nibbling at the edges of and I had to get into it. And I'm so glad that I was able to be helpful to you translating this drama.
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Me too. I'm so, so glad. And those really were two things that I was extremely curious about but hadn't looked into yet. So I'm happy to get the full story.
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Well, I'm very satisfied with how this conversation has gone and, and honestly, I'm a little tired out from all this drama and I think I'm gonna head to bed. Good night, Sophia.
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You know what? I think I'm gonna do the same, so I'll talk to you next time. Good night.
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This cozy “pillow fort” edition of The Nightly with hosts Sophia and Josh dives into two of the week’s most perplexing pop culture dramas: the ongoing rift between Brooklyn Beckham and his famous parents, and the surprising backlash surrounding the “Glambot” guy from red carpet fame. With gentle banter and a signature sleepy energy, the hosts break down internet rumors, fact-check TikTok blurbs, and add their own warm takes on the messier side of celebrity life.
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Memorable Quote:
“The thought of your soon-to-be mother in law wanting to design your wedding dress and having to navigate how to like not do that...it sounds so stressful and so bad and scary both ways.” – Sophia (14:44)
Notable Moment:
Throughout the episode, Sophia and Josh maintain gentle, genuine curiosity and humor, making tangled celebrity gossip accessible even to non-tabloid fans. Their balanced approach—neither gleeful nor cynical—turns each “drama” into a gentle story about boundaries, expectations, and the internet’s appetite for taking sides. Perfect for unwinding and drifting off, but with enough wit and insight to catch you up for Monday watercooler chats.