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Hey out there, sleepy heads. I'm Kristen.
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And I'm Josh. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch a slumber party for pop culture lovers. Hi, Kristen, how are you?
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I am so happy to see you, Josh. And I'm really happy because we have someone else joining us in the pillow fort tonight. So it is a legit slumber party up in here.
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That's right, listeners, Please welcome to the Nightly, the very funny Amber Wallen. Amber, thanks so much for being here.
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Thank you for having me. A reason to stay in my nightgown. I'm never saying no.
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Ah, love it, love it. I'm all for nightgowns all the time. I mean, caftans are also okay or
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you know, any other pj the nightgown of the day.
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Yeah, we just need to like normalize wearing nightgowns out of the house if we can just like get behind that movement. Sign me up.
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I'm trying. I'm doing my best not to brag to bring down the level of overall outside attire in my neighborhood. Like I walk my dog, I'm going sweatpants, pants, big hoodie. I'm not dressing up to, you know, run to the corner store and pick up some butter. I'm like really dragging the discourse down.
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Exactly. Like just, just one step above. Like a house coat would just like a robe with a couple brooches on. It would be what I want to wear. You know, just like a little, a little sleep with a little glam. That's what I want.
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Yes, I think that's a great combination.
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Oh yeah, I'm all for it. And I think you can wear the house coat over the sweatpants, Josh. So you know, a little mix and match.
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House coat over. Oh yeah, love that. That's really nice, Amber. Thank you so much for being here. We like to ask all our guests, do you have a night to night bedtime routine or like a sleep tip or trick that you wanted to share with our listeners?
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I am getting the best sleep of my life right now because I have two children. So I'm not struggling to get to sleep. The minute my head hits the pillow, it is lights out for me. So, you know, I highly recommend overworking yourself with motherhood. If you are struggling to sleep, that'll just get you right down. So that is my best solution right now.
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So find two little humans to wear
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you out every day, two humans, a rowdy dog, you know, a husband that can't quite figure it out. You will go right to sleep. Sleep every night.
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Okay, this is great. Cause, look, I know a lot of people that say, I have a little kid. The little kid keeps me up all night. But you're saying, no. If you're doing it right, those kids are wearing you down to the point where you can't stay up all night.
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You can't. I even every single night, we trade off, like reading her bedtime stories. But, you know, around that second story, I'm knocked out. I wake up in her room, it's 1am she's still up. The story took me out.
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So.
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So I've woken up drooling in her bed many times. She's like in her fort in the corner. Yes.
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It's amazing how much energy they have and how much energy they just completely zap out of us adult humans.
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They are fatigue resistant. Truly. I'm like, they need to bottle this. I would buy it immediately.
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Oh, yeah, me too.
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Because at this point, the coffee's not doing it. I live in an area where I have Armenian neighbors. I have to drink Armenian coffee. Now. That's. That's the good stuff. The American coffee.
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Do they have a more powerful coffee?
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They do. Or have you ever had like a, A Colombian coffee randomly one day and you're like, oh, this is my first day on earth. I've. I've never had coffee before.
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Yeah, those, those beans have a different caffeine in them.
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Yeah, like when you like, stick a spoon in it and the spoon can just like stay standing up. You're like, oh, I'm about to be up for the entire weekend. Excellent.
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Yeah. This coffee is basically pudding.
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Well, Amber, that is a great tip. And we have more tips coming up. Or I should say pitches. Because tonight we are going to share some funny half baked ideas we've come up with business ideas or inventions we feel the world desperately needs at this moment. And if you have an idea, you can share it with us. But if you want to just noodle on that, we can have Josh start.
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Go for it, Jack. Okay.
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This is a business. I call it my turn to intern. And this is for adults who don't know how to do anything. That's like me. And you can, for a small fee, you can shadow someone in any kind of job field for the day. So it's like, oh, I don't wanna go to medical school, but I would like to see what a cardiologist does.
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All day.
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And for, like, the price of maybe going to a movie, you get to hang out with a cardiologist for the morning as they do their work. Or you could do that. A woodworker or someone who does anything. Someone who works on a submarine. And it's just like a job shadow program, limited slots. Obviously, we don't want to clutter up someone's day, make their life harder. But you do just get to kind of be a fly on the wall and see how different occupations work.
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A couple questions about this, Josh, please. So the fly on the wall aspect, does that mean that I don't actually get to do cardiology work while I'm shadowing a cardiologist?
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I think you do not get to do cardiology work. Number one. I don't think we want to turn this program into, like, a discount cardiology where hospitals are just having people come in recreationally to do heart surgery and such if they want. If they're like, oh, do you want to hold the stethoscope? Like, sure, whatever. But I don't think you'll be expected to be a contributing member of the team.
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I think you should have to go at the end of the day, like, contribute something.
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I love that.
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By the end of the shift, you need to change, you know, a valve or something.
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Yeah, Okay. I love this.
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Put some gloves on. It's one performance task at the end of the day because you got to get, like, if I'm paying for a session, I want to be able to do something right.
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Like, you wouldn't take a cooking class if you didn't walk out with some homemade pasta.
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Exactly, Exactly. Like, I want. If you're shadowing a lawyer, like, you need to, like, serve somebody some papers by the end of the day. Just some part of it.
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Oh, yes. Yes.
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I love it.
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I was priming up for this all day.
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Yes. Get me on that stage while Olivia Wilde's trying to present her next movie. And I will serve her. Yes, I'll do it.
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Going full Sudeikis divorce.
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Speaking of Hollywood, Josh, I think this would actually be a great internship idea for actors who are trying to prepare for their next role.
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I agree.
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You know, it could be great for people who are just curious about things, but it could be a real professional step up for performers.
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I feel like the only problem is too many actors would just want to shadow the joker because that feels like what everybody wants to be played out for awards, but I love that. Yeah, I think that's great. You pay a little money and you're like, oh, I'm going to sit behind the bus driver, see how the bus driver operates. And then, Amber, love your idea. 4:30 to 5:30. You're driving that bus.
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I think you should just, like, one or two of the routes. You know, you have to get your feet wet. Like, what could it hurt?
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Yeah, I mean, you should have to have a driver's license. I think you can't go from zero to bus. But, yeah, if you're just going on a straight. A straight shot, maybe a couple turns, picking people up, dropping people off, and bus drivers again. If I'm wrong, write in to the show, the nightlyatch co, and tell me that you think I'm out of line. I think most people with a driver's license could do three bus stops.
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I think they could do five. Okay.
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Oh. Oh, you're ambitious.
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I love your belief in the human spirit.
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I've been on a few buses before where I'm like, yes.
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Have you ever driven any? Yeah. Hey, man, why don't you take a break? I'll drive for a while, take a nap.
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I got that second shift. Because the way we are bumping on this bus, I think your licensure is expired.
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You're finding the potholes like it's a video game.
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I think I know what I want my internship to be, Josh.
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What would it be?
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This company needs to happen now because I want to sign up for a day to be. I don't even know what that machine's called. The big digging machine. The big yellow construction thing.
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Like an excavator?
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Yeah. I want to make that thing happen, and I want to dig things up. It doesn't have to be all day. It could be at the end of my internship visit. They're like, all right, Kristen, you can take over the controls now and you can dig stuff just for a few minutes.
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Yeah, that would be pretty fun.
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I love this for adults. I remember. I'm not sure if y' all ever had this, but growing up, you know, you have the, like, bring your kid to work day. And my dad, you know, had a thrilling job working at the post office for 30 years. And I remember going with him, like, you know, it was 90. So I'm just, like, sitting in his mail truck watching him, like, drop stuff off one by one. And I remember thinking, I do not want to do this. To the stage I go, because this is mind numbing. This was also in the 90s where they were kind of like, smoking in the mail room. Like, this is my nightmare. I see why my Father is angry every day. I would do whatever it takes to not end up giving people their bills.
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Oh, my God. Amber, you and I. Okay, this is a rude awakening for me because being a postal carrier is actually one of my fantasy jobs. It's one of the things I dream about doing. Walking down the street, saying hi to the neighbors, petting the dogs, putting the mail in the slots. Hi, neighbor. How are ya? Got a package for you. It sounds like.
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It's not that the dogs bite you. No one's happy to see their mailman. The tips aren't good around Christmas time. It can be glamorous in the movies, but in real life, people get really upset with those bills.
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Oh, I felt so bad. We, a year ago, year and a half, we tried to tip our letter carrier, and they wouldn't take it. They were like, it's against policy.
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What?
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And I was like, the Supreme Court's allowed to do it. You should be you. You work so hard.
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I'm tell post anthrax. They were like, keep it away. Don't dare give me anything.
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I remember we're not opening any envelopes.
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Oh, my gosh. Wow. Okay. This is a very rude awakening for me. My fantasy job apparently isn't such a fantasy after all.
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Well, do you have a fantasy business that you'd like to open, Kristen?
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I do. And I have a name for it. It's called Toot. And it's called Toot because you know the term so and so. They're always tooting their own horn. Of course I want to be the one tooting the horn for you. I want to be the plus one. My whole business is essentially, you have somebody who's your hype squad wherever you go. But ideally, this is going to be a situation like a high school reunion, an industry meetup, that ex's wedding. You know, some people invite their exes to their wedding, and then I had one in mine. You know, what are you supposed to do at the wedding? Like, I'm happy, but I'm not supposed to bring up, I used to date you. Well, I will be the hype man who comes along and just talks about how fantastic you are, how good you are in bed, how accomplished you are, your latest inventions. I'll be the person who talks about how amazing you are. And yeah, just name the situation. Especially I think the specialty is going to be situations where you might feel insecure or where hosers might be there who just really bring out the worst in you. So I'll be the person there, and you can just Be quiet and smile modestly like Amber. Why are you being so quiet? Why are you not talking about the fact that you're now the president of Paramount? Come on, Amber.
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This is the job made for me. Truly.
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Doesn't that sound so fun?
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I would absolutely love, like, silencing any of their self doubt and reminding them that they can talk about and celebrate their wins. I would love to sign up to do this.
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Oh, my gosh, Amber. I feel like you're employee number one. It's me and you starting off this company.
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Send me out, book out my calendar. I do this for free already. I really do. I'll see people out in the street. My favorite thing to do is just sit somewhere and people watch. And then from the cafe, go, okay, eyebrows. I speak back. And it. There's nothing more validating than getting a compliment from a stranger. And you see people's body language change when someone else notices. Like, you know that new bag that they bought? So if it was like actual accomplishments that they worked for. And you know, you got your PhD, but you don't want to make a stink about it because it's not a baby shower. I'm like, no, no, no, no. This is way harder than making a baby. I will come with you to Thanksgiving and remind your grandma that you have a PhD.
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Yeah. You know, and if your uncle doesn't respectfully call you doctor, I'm gonna shake him by the shoulders.
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Gonna be, excuse me. That's Dr. Amber. That's Dr. Amber.
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My mother has a Ph.D. and my husband always addresses her as Dr. Thomas. Like, even when we're just hanging out, when we are just drinking wine and relaxing, he always says doctor first.
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And he is her favorite son in law, right?
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Most definitely. He's the only son in law. Yes, but most definitely her favorite.
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That's so respectful.
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He can work for Toot. Toot. Clearly, he's a Toot candidate as well.
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I love the business at first. Now I will say, hearing the name at first, I was like, is this like professional fart earth?
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I know exactly what you're thinking, and I just think that Toot has a sense of humor to it. Toot says, we're not taking this too seriously. We can be as silly as you want us to be. We can laugh about it later. This is one of those things where it doesn't have to be all that. It doesn't have to be. You know, you're in therapy about this. We can just laugh about it. We can just laugh about your insecurities. We can laugh about how great you are. We can embellish. Why not embellish a little bit, too, while we're at it? Let's have fun. Let's toot. Let's toot.
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Toot and beep, beep. I love it.
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I have one question, Kristin. Yes. If you're showing up with someone as, like, a plus one, are you in character?
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Oh, I would love to be. Yes.
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Okay. That's my whole question.
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So I've always wanted to be invited to somebody's high school reunion. Anybody? If you're out there and want to bring me as your plus one to your high school reunion, please don't hesitate to reach out. And I will be anything you want me to be. I'll be your business partner. I'll be your romantic partner. I'll be anything you want. I'll be your sibling. I'll be your, you know, your adopted daughter, whatever you want me to be. And I'll just toot. I'll toot you all night. Toot your horn.
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I love that people do that.
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Yeah. This is so good.
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Yeah. And if you want me to, I can also obviously, wear costumes to accommodate the situation better.
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Kristin, this is such a dream job for you, and you would be so good at it.
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Thank you. I just love cheering. Josh, you already know this about me. I love cheering so much.
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Yeah, you're really good.
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And it could be a problem. Like, if I walk into the wrong situation and there's cheering, I might accidentally join in. If I don't know what the cheering's about, it might be a problem later when I find out, like, oh, what was I cheering for? Oh, it was the Knicks. But whatever, you know, I will cheer for just about anything.
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Love that. Amber, we would love to hear any business or product idea that you have to bring to the floor.
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So in worlds where there's Kristen who wants to uplift people, there are other sides of the world where I want. I want to harmlessly, of course, punish people. Now, here's the thing. I think there needs to be. Because we're not talking about jail. We're not talking about major offenses, about the people that do minor inconveniences here and there, you know, not putting your shopping cart back and things like that. I think that we need to go back to a time where we pie people in the face. I think.
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Wow.
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You know, it's just a little, like. It's a little fun. It's a little. You remember how that last day of school where you just get to pie a teacher in the Face something like that. I just think it would remind people, like, it's not that serious. Just be a good person. You know, this is a public bathroom, and you didn't flush. You've been pied.
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Pie to the face. Yep.
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Varying levels of pie. I. And then I think, you know, they would lick it off of their face and be like, you know what? One, that was delicious. And two, I could have put my cart back.
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I shouldn't have been clipping my toenails in public. That's rude of me.
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Yeah. Not on the subway. Don't. Don't need to do that on the subway.
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Like, I spoke over that woman in that meeting. I did. And here's my pie. And next time, I'm gonna let her finish whatever it is.
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And it, I think, feels like justice has been served. It's less of a. It's less of, like, a penalty that's supposed to ruin your life. Right. And it's more just to be like, we know what you did is wrong. This is an acknowledgement of that you are inconvenienced, and you can get your day back on track with a little knowledge that you should do better.
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Just a slight knowledge that you can do better. If we just all. I think I want to. I want to challenge all of our listeners here to pie one person in the face.
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This is incredible.
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Yeah.
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Is there a different type of pie for each infraction?
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That's exactly what I was about to say.
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Oh, you were gonna. Great minds think alike. Cause I wanna know. It's like, if it's a minor infraction, is it really just the whipped cream in the pie tin? And then if it's a more severe infraction, is it something a little bit more dense? Maybe something that has, like, peanuts in it, like pecan pie or something like that? How does this. How does this work?
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These are excellent questions. I feel like if you got, like, a good lemon meringue to the face, you know, you really messed up. You. You.
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Okay.
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You did something you shan't have done. But if it's just a little. A little soft whipped cream, you're like, oh, I misspoke. What a teachable moment. We gotta bring back some of those harmless pranks. You know, a whoopee cushion here, a rubber chicken there. Nothing that ruins lives. But just a little funny. That reminds me. I could have been a better friend today. That's all.
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The whoopee cushion version of this business is also called Toot. Actually.
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Yes.
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We are actually partnering with Toot in the fourth quarter this year because we both have great ideas.
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But, Josh, I think your business could be involved too, because people would really want to intern with us. I think.
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I completely agree. I think synergy is the word for what we're accomplishing here today.
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We're going to circle back and close the loop on this business idea because
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the KPIs are going to be through the roof.
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Not going to do it in Q4.
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Oh, yeah, Q4. We're going to. We're going to BCC somebody. I don't know the words.
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They're going to get all the deliverables. Everything's getting delivered.
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The scope and scale of the work.
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Scope and scale both. If you try to just give me the scope, I'm walking out of the meeting. You better give me the scale, too.
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If you don't give me that scale. When you give me that scope, I am moving right now. I've worked for myself for a while, so sometimes when people are like, yeah, I'll just PCC you, and I'm just like, one more time. What does that mean? You. So, yes, sometimes there's.
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There's new business words that I don't know because I don't work at their office.
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Somebody said to me the other day, they're like, well, what's my roi? I was like, what's your.
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Oh, no, no. Who's Roy with?
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Roy? Do I owe him money? What's happening? And I'm gonna pie Roy in the face.
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He deserves it.
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Oh, well, this has been so much fun. Amber, just a few questions for you before we let you go. First, is there anything our listeners should be checking out that you've been working on? Because I know our listeners want lots more of you.
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Yes, listeners, if you enjoy laughter and just general joy, if you need just a night off from all your worries and troubles. I'm currently touring my standup comedy right now. This is my first comedy tour and it's going great. Shows are.
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Oh, that's so exciting.
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I. I used to every day just write jokes in this one Google Doc. And the top of last year, my friend was like, how long is this document? Because I know you always write jokes there. I was like, oh, it's like 89 pages. She was like, whoa. Wow. So I was like, you're right, I need to. And it's going so well. So I've got some shows coming up, so you can follow me on Instagram. R. I am so like, Amber. It's like, will, I am. But nobody got the joke but me. But it's B U R R I A M and I'm just gonna be all over east coast, west coast. I'm constantly adding new shows so just check out shows there. And I also have a podcast with another comedy mother of mine. Her name is Jasmine W and our podcast is named Quit Playing with Jasmine and Amber where we, you know, complain about people who play games with us
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all day long, people that maybe deserve
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a pie, people who need a piece of. So that's really fun. So that's where the people can find me.
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Excellent. Excellent. And lastly, Amber, it's time for our goodnights. Who would you like to say goodnight to tonight?
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I would like to say goodnight to all those of you out there and I wanna just remind those of you about to go to sleep, the things that you did today, they're not your fault, they're someone else's fault. They're your kids fault, your partner's fault, your dog, cat and or fish's fault. You did everything right today because you're an amazing person and you'll never be pat in the face. And so I hope you have the best night, the sweetest of dreams, and I wish a nightmare on your enemies.
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Yeah.
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Incredible.
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That message was brought to you by Toot. Oh beautiful Amber. Toot. Thank you so much again, Amber for joining us tonight. This has been such a treat. I hope you have the sweetest of dreams tonight. And good night to you, Josh.
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Good night to you Kristen and good night Amber. Thanks so much for joining us.
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Good night everyone.
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Thank you for having me.
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Sa.
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Date: March 17, 2026
Host: Hatch Podcasts (Kristen & Josh)
Guest: Amber Wallin (Comedian, podcast host, “Quit Playing with Jasmine and Amber”)
This cozy, lighthearted episode of The Nightly brings comedian Amber Wallin into the podcast's signature “pillow fort” for a pop culture slumber party. Kristen, Josh, and Amber riff on unusual business ideas, discuss the daily joys (and chaos) of parenthood, and nostalgically call for the return of classic, silly punishments like pies in the face for everyday annoyances. The conversation blends sleep advice, self-acceptance, and plenty of comedic banter for a bedtime listen that soothes and entertains.
[00:57–04:17] — Sleep routines, parenting fatigue, and coffee preferences
[04:26–10:00] — Business brainstorming, including jobs people fantasize about (Kristen dreams of being a mail carrier, Amber sets her straight with behind-the-scenes realities).
[11:08–16:12] — Hypepeople startup, social anxieties, and the joy of excessive cheering.
[16:29–20:17] — Pies as social feedback, harmless justice, and silly corporate speak.
With warm, sleepy humor and childlike glee, Kristen, Josh, and Amber blend nostalgia for playful pranks with fresh, adult absurdity. Their “business ideas” are satirical comfort food for listeners weary of taking life too seriously: bring back playful correction (pies!), outsource your self-doubt to professional cheerleaders, and never underestimate the life-changing power of a good nightgown.
Amber’s closing lullaby:
“The things that you did today, they're not your fault, they're someone else's fault...You did everything right today because you're an amazing person and you'll never be pat in the face. And so I hope you have the best night, the sweetest of dreams, and I wish a nightmare on your enemies.” (22:34–23:09)