Career Reveals, Bucket List Items & the Return of Anti-Grombolio

Summary

The Nightly: "Career Reveals, Bucket List Items & the Return of Anti-Grombolio"

Podcast by Hatch Podcasts | Hosts: Josh Gondelman & Matt Bragg
Date: February 27, 2026

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Overview

In this cozy, late-night installment of The Nightly, hosts Josh and Matt settle into the Hatch Pillow Fort for a gentle, humorous debrief spanning eccentric listener emails, the origins (and return) of the mysterious word "Anti-Grombolio," personal career revelations, and an exploration of their ultimate bucket list dreams. Delivered in an easygoing tone peppered with laughter, playful banter, and classic slumber party energy, the episode is perfect for pop culture lovers looking to unwind before bed.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up: Travel Tales & Tiredness

• Travel Mishaps: Matt recounts a recent nerve-wracking experience riding a motorbike between two shows in London, admitting:

  "I was honestly petrified. ...The worst part was getting off it—I pulled my quad trying to get my leg off it." (01:26–01:48)

• Homebody Joys: Josh shares his joy at being home for a bit, catching up on chores and relaxing. (01:59–02:15)

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2. Pop Culture Callback: The Enigma of "Anti-Grombolio"

• Listener Mail Deluge: The hosts marvel at overwhelming feedback following their prior episode with comedian Jo Firestone, who introduced the word "anti-grumbolio."
• The Word's Genesis:

  "She said, and isn't garlic—and I believe the word she said, which we think was made up, was anti grumbolio, which upon further interrogation, she said means like cleans itself, doesn't need to be cleaned or disinfected." (03:20–03:55)

• Distinctions Made: Jo insisted this is not the same as "antimicrobial." (03:55–04:09)
• Listener Detective Work: Listeners wrote in with found instances of the word in online reviews, sparking debates about their legitimacy and intent.

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3. Listener Letters: Grumbolio in the Wild

• The Coffee Table Mystery
  • An anonymous listener shares a review for an item by "Annie Gromboglio":

    "Lovely design. It makes for a cool focal piece for my coffee table. Made it successfully across the world with no issues." (04:44–05:00)

  • Josh and Matt riff about what kind of object it could be (vase? big book?) and share a tangent about art books, including one that was "too sensual" for Josh's coffee table:

    "It was too sensual to have out on my coffee table. It sets a very erotic vibe for the living room. ... I had to, like, put it underneath other books." (06:27–07:09)

• Restaurant Review: Micro Grumbolio
  • Another letter features a one-star review of "Micro Grumbolio Restaurant," decrying poor service and comically small food:

    "'We waited 45 minutes to get our appetizers after ordering. Still no hello, just small food when we finally left. ...One star.'" (09:09–09:43)

  • Matt jokes:

    "Don't know why they're surprised by the small food. ...If you wanted the big food, you should have gone to the Mega Grumbolio." (09:43–09:55)

  • Both hosts question the authenticity and rationale of the complaint, culminating in giggling about "Undercover Boss" scenarios investigating this likely-nonexistent eatery. (11:23–11:41)
• Shoutout to Gigi
  • Gigi enjoys the show and requests more about the hosts' lives:

    "'I enjoy. All of the hosts would be fun to learn more about their careers outside of Hatch.'" (12:10–12:45)

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4. Personal Reveals: The Hosts’ Careers [12:45–16:15]

• Josh Gondelman
  • Stand-up comedian and TV writer: credits include Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, Desus & Mero, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, and Wait Wait...Don’t Tell Me!
  • Has two standup specials available on YouTube; active touring continues.

    "I wrote for John Oliver's show for a long time...I have a couple of standup specials out...I'll probably come to your city if you're in America and beyond." (13:09–13:53)

• Matt Bragg
  • Also a full-time stand-up comic, performing six nights a week, with his first tour extended due to high demand:

    "I do stand up... probably the most all consuming thing I think I've ever done...my first tour...extended due to demand." (14:15–14:47)

  • Plans for an Australia/New Zealand tour in the coming year, with a special out on YouTube.

    "This hasn't been announced anywhere yet, but I am doing Australia and New Zealand next year." (15:16–15:19)

• The Mystery of Their Names
  • Real names revealed: Josh Gondelman and Matt Bragg (with a joking fallback to “Matt LeBlanc” if disliked). (16:03–16:14)

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5. Pop Culture Chat: TV, Art, and Comedy [16:14–17:30]

• Discussion about TV sitcoms featuring Matt LeBlanc: Joey, Episodes, and Man With a Plan.
• Matt enjoyed Joey on a plane; Josh recommends Episodes as clever showbiz satire.
• Both reflect humorously (and a bit cynically) on the perils of working in entertainment.

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6. Snooze Pack Mini-Draft: Bucket List Items [18:09–22:58]

• Josh's Pick:
  • Visit All Seven Continents—Inspired by his grandmother's travels; currently at three (North America, Europe, Asia).

    "My grandmother did it while she was alive. ...She had been to, I think the last one was Antarctica." (18:34–19:24) "I would like to visit all seven continents." (18:22–18:34)

• Matt's Picks:
  • Headline a Major Arena—Having performed in arenas but always as part of another bill, Matt desires to do it under his own name.

    "I'd love to have that under my name and have...it's all me. It's all about me, Josh." (21:03–21:31)

  • Scuba Dive at a Shipwreck—He admits the idea scares him, but the allure of shipwrecks and the experience draws him in.

    "I think I'd be rubbish at it and I think I'd hate it in the moment, but I'd love to scuba dive. ...I'm a big fan of a shipwreck though." (21:31–22:01)

  • The dialogue leads to mutual enthusiasm about Stockholm's Vasa Museum, which houses a 17th-century shipwreck, with both hosts marveling at its preservation. (22:05–22:49)
• The "Newspack" segment wraps with mutual appreciation for the expanded understanding between hosts and audience alike.

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7. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Garlic Presses:
  • "I'm anti garlic press...I don't see why it even needs cleaning because it's only ever garlic that's in a garlic press." — Matt (03:13–03:20)
• On Making Up Words:
  • "She was absolutely adamant that it wasn't antimicrobial." — Josh (03:55–03:59)
  • "It's canon now." — Josh, about anti-grumbolio (04:10)
• Listener Feedback:
  • "I don't trust anyone that doesn't say hello." — Matt (11:07–11:08)
• On Comedy Tours:
  • "My demand still count." — Matt, tongue-in-cheek about touring (14:54)
• On Career Announcements:
  • "Unless you don't like what I do, in which case forget my..." — Matt (16:03–16:12)
• On Bucket List Dreams:
  • "I would like to visit all seven continents." — Josh (18:22)
  • "I'd love to have that under my name and have...it's all me. It's all about me, Josh." — Matt (21:25–21:31)
  • "I think I'd be rubbish at it ... but I'd love to scuba dive." — Matt (21:56–22:01)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Travel Tales & Catching Up – 00:54–02:18
• Anti-Grombolio Recap & Listener Mail – 02:18–11:56
• Career Reveals (Josh & Matt) – 12:45–16:15
• Sitcom/TV/Comedy Banter – 16:14–17:30
• Bucket List "Snooze Pack" Draft – 18:09–22:58
• Wrap-up & Final Book/Media Shoutouts – 23:29–24:05

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Final Thoughts

This episode delivers a delightful blend of inside jokes, real career insight, and quirky listener interactions—an inviting listen both for regular subscribers and new arrivals. The tone is friendly, witty, and good-humored, anchored by real friendship and mutual respect between the hosts. In a signature Nightly move, the conversation creates a cozy sense of connection, leaving listeners a little more relaxed—and perhaps inspired to chase a bucket list dream or coin their own word, anti-grumbolio style.

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Host Recap (16:03):

• Josh Gondelman
• Matt Bragg (or, if you don’t like him, “Matt LeBlanc”)

Transcript

[A]

Hello. You're about to drift into an episode of the Nightly, a podcast designed to help you unwind and relax. For the full phone free immersive light experience, visit Hatch Co. Enjoy.

[B]

Hello and good evening, everyone. I'm Josh.

[A]

And I'm Matt. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch, a slumber party for pop culture lovers. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. Josh.

[B]

Great to be here with you, Matt. How are you doing?

[A]

I'm good. Yeah. I'm very tired, which is great. That's what we're all here for, isn't it?

[B]

It's that time of night.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Lot of travel lately. Have you been back out on the road?

[A]

Yeah, it's been. You've been super busy and I had for the first time ever, I won't bore you with too much of it, but I had to get a motorbike between two shows.

[B]

Were they just real close together and you couldn't get there any other way?

[A]

Yeah, the timings didn't quite work. The only way to get across to that part of London where the second gig was was on the back of a. Like a motorbike.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I was honestly petrified.

[B]

Yeah, that sounds terrifying, but really thrilling.

[A]

It was actually not as bad as I thought. I built it up so much in my head and was so panicked that then by the time I actually got on it, it could never have been as bad as I thought it would be.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

So the worst part was getting off it at the other end. I pulled my quad trying to get my leg off it. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my goodness.

[A]

Super embarrassing.

[B]

I hope. I hope you have a little recovery time, some rest.

[A]

Well, hopefully. Yeah, I'm going to try. I'm going to try tomorrow. How are you, Josh?

[B]

I'm doing okay, thank you. I've been home a little bit. It's been really, really nice. I've had some good time to settle in and do some laundry and chores and keep the house nice. So that's very gratifying. Yeah.

[A]

Best of both worlds. Yeah, that's good.

[B]

And I'm truly so excited to introduce this element to today's show because you and I recently recorded an episode of this show, the Nightly, where we were joined by comedian Joe Firestone and we received a lot of listener mail related to a word that we think she made up.

[A]

She definitely made it. By the way, before we get into that, how fun was Joe Fierstone.

[B]

She's the best. She's so funny. She's so wonderful. If you have not. If you're listening now and haven't heard that Episode of the Nightly. I like. Super, super recommend. It chose the best.

[A]

It will give slightly more context as well, I assume too, I think.

[B]

So let's try to give a little context, which is we were talking about. You mentioned that it's very difficult to clean a garlic press. You are anti garlic press. Yeah.

[A]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I don't see why it even needs cleaning because it's only ever garlic that's in a garlic press.

[B]

So Jo added on. I think she was delighted to hear your opinion and added on, she said, and isn't garlic. And I believe the word she said, which we think was made up, was anti grumbolio, which upon further interrogation, she said means like cleans itself, doesn't need to be cleaned or disinfected. We followed up to ask if she might have meant antimicrobial. She said, that does mean that, but that's not the word she was thinking of.

[A]

She was absolutely adamant that it wasn't antimicrobial.

[B]

Extremely clear that she did not mean antimicrobial. What she meant was anti grumbolio, a word that we are pretty sure does not exist.

[A]

Until now.

[B]

Until now. Which I think, yeah, it's canon now. So we got like a larger than average amount of listener feedback, which I'm always delighted to receive. And you can. You can email us anytime at the nightly at Hatch Co. And if you ever want to reach out about anything we've said or didn't say, you can and you did in droves. Here are some of the responses we got. Matt. One anonymous listener wrote in with a review of an item purchased from someone named Annie Gromboglio. And the review is lovely design. It makes for a cool focal piece for my coffee table. Made it successfully across the world with no issues.

[A]

So we assume that's. That's real, then a piece of.

[B]

Sounds like someone found or in their own life had written a review of an item from someone named Annie Grumbolio. And what we know is it seems like an art piece, like a centerpiece.

[A]

Well, again, this could open up a whole other can of worms here. Because I was gonna say to you. Yeah, what. What do we reckon that is a cool focal piece for my coffee table?

[B]

I don't. I wanna say like a vase.

[A]

Okay, you're going vase. I reckon my initial thought was a big book. Like a big.

[B]

Like a big coffee table book.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I don't know, what is it? What do you normally get in, like big coffee table books? It's like shoes or.

[B]

Yeah. Like photographs. Right. Like, it could have been, like, mountains of the world or, like, architecture or fashion.

[A]

Yeah, I reckon I'm gonna go with that. By the way, this is completely unrelated. I drove past the world's biggest paving slab last week.

[B]

Huh. How big? Were you impressed by how big it was?

[A]

No, not at all. It's. Yeah. I mean, it sort of looks much like every other paving slab. I don't know why that was in my head there. I guess that would be a focal point for a coffee table.

[B]

Yeah. Maybe a coffee table book of large paving slabs.

[A]

That is exactly the kind of thing I had in my head. Yeah.

[B]

A couple years ago, maybe a year ago, I met an artist, a photographer, and she was like, oh, I do these art books. And I was like, well, new friend, I would love to support you by buying one of your art books. And she told me where to get it, and I ordered it and she sent it to me, and I was very excited to receive it. And it was too sensual to have out on my coffee table. It sets a very erotic vibe for the living room. And I had to, like, put it underneath other books.

[A]

What kind of thing are we talking here?

[B]

A lot of nudity.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And I was like, this is, of course, art, and they're very beautifully done portraits. But this isn't the tone I'm trying to set in my living room.

[A]

The weird thing is that would be seen as fine, having that book with that content on the coffee table.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

But if you get the calendar with the same content that's up in a mechanic's garage, you put that in your living room. Gives off a very different vibe. But it's the same content. Pretty much.

[B]

Well, I think the calendar shape makes it feel a little less artsy when you're like. When you're like, oh, I just love the February's boobs or whatever, I think.

[A]

Yeah, fair enough. Yeah.

[B]

My dog is now here. She's like. She might be a little grumbly on Mike, but she's being very good.

[A]

She's a very sweet dog.

[B]

Yeah. She's such a sweetie. She's so cute today.

[A]

Maggie.

[B]

This is Maggie. Yeah. She loves every person and hates basically every dog. I have to, like, airlift her out for rescue purposes all the time. She's. She's so funny.

[A]

That's the problem. You never let her learn the lesson.

[B]

I know. Yeah. I just can't bear to watch her get her butt kicked in a fight with, like, a pit bull or something.

[A]

Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't Would you say that is Maggie anti Gromboglio?

[B]

I would. I would say she's extremely grombolio. She's always dirty. Yeah. Does not clean herself. Okay, we have a couple more.

[A]

Yes, please. Please do.

[B]

This is from another anonymous listener. They wrote in with a review of a restaurant called the Micro Grumbolio Restaurant, which again, Micro Grumbolio is not the same as anti grumbolio, but micro makes it sound like they're just a little grumbolio.

[A]

Just a small piece of gromboglio. Yeah.

[B]

Here's the review of the Micro Grumbolio restaurant. I took both mom and sis here to the Micro Grombolio restaurant for Mother's Day. What a horrible experience. It was absolutely deplorable service. It took 15 minutes for anyone to acknowledge us after being seated. Not even one hello, just hey. We waited 45 minutes to get our appetizers after ordering. Still no hello, just small food when we finally left. Still no hello, just goodbye. One star.

[A]

Hmm. Don't know why they're surprised by the small food.

[B]

Yeah, they did order small food. Yeah.

[A]

You've gone to Micro Grombolio. If you wanted the big food, you should have gone to the Mega.

[B]

Mega Grumbolio. And also they ordered appetizers, which is small food to begin with.

[A]

An excellent point, Josh. That is small food.

[B]

And when they left, still no hello, which is not the time that you say hello to someone.

[A]

It would have been weird at that point, wouldn't it? Yeah.

[B]

To be like, hello as they walk out the door. Yeah. That sounds a little passive aggressive.

[A]

Yeah. I don't. It doesn't sound that bad, really. 15 minutes. 15 minutes to get served.

[B]

45 minutes for an appetizer is a little much.

[A]

That's a little bit much. Yeah. Fair enough. One star. I think that's a harsh.

[B]

It does seem harsh, especially because they didn't mention the quality of the food at all. Just the quantity.

[A]

Yeah. So, I mean, I take from that the food is actually probably quite good, but it would be begrudging of them to. They don't want to say that it was good because it would take away from their other points.

[B]

The review is very much like we live in a society. You have to say hello when someone walks in, which I understand.

[A]

Yeah. They do struggle to get over that. Well, there we go. The Micro Grombolio restaurant, if indeed it exists.

[B]

Right. Which again, we don't trust because we don't trust you listeners.

[A]

I don't trust anybody.

[B]

I don't trust anyone that doesn't say

[A]

hello, but they said, hey. I'd be fine with hey, wouldn't you?

[B]

Wait, they said no. Oh, that's true. They did say hey. You know what? I'm starting to come around on the micro grombolio people. I think we need to add a star to this review.

[A]

I want to be, you know, if you've seen them. Was it Undercover Boss? I think we should do that for this restaurant. Even though we've got absolutely no affiliation to it whatsoever, but just. Just sort of go undercover.

[B]

I think that's good. I think we could do it. I would be curious to see how well we pull off convincing the people there we are. Their boss.

[A]

Mm. Yeah. Well, we said this word once that's kind of in the name of your restaurant and it that. Yeah, so this is fine.

[B]

Also, the other thing with this is we do not know where this restaurant is.

[A]

No, no, we don't do. Follow up on this. If it was you that wrote in with this review, I need more detail here.

[B]

Yeah, This was from a listener named Gigi. Gigi used their name, so they're on the record, unlike the other two anonymous cowards. Cowards. Yeah. That's exactly the word I was going to use. Who wrote in earlier, Gigi said, omg, I haven't laughed so hard in ages. That was gold. Thanks for the laughs. I enjoy. All of the hosts would be fun to learn more about their careers outside of Hatch. That's so nice. Thanks, G.G.

[A]

that is very nice. Yeah, thank you very much, G.G. no one ever normally takes an interest.

[B]

I think this is the first time anyone's asked anything about us. I think probably most listeners assumed we're all AI.

[A]

Yeah, well, get comfortable because I've got a lot to say. Why don't you start, Josh, why don't you tell us a bit more about your career outside of Hatch.

[B]

Yeah, I don't want to take too much time because really, again, only Gigi has ever been curious. But I'm a stand up comedian and a TV writer. I wrote for John Oliver's show for a long time. And then Desus and Mero on Showtime and the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. I'm often on the NPR, the public radio show in the U.S. wait, wait, don't tell me. And I have a couple of standup specials out that are. I think you can watch them both on YouTube at this point. And I tour a lot, so keep an eye out and I'll probably come to your city if you're in America and beyond. I don't you know, I got nothing keeping me from going to Finland or Taipei or whatever.

[A]

Yeah, why not? And get Josh on socials and stuff now because you've posted a few standup clips recently that have really, really made me laugh.

[B]

Oh, thank you so much. That's really kind.

[A]

So go follow Josh.

[B]

Thank you. What about you, Matt? What should people know about you or what should Gigi specifically know?

[A]

What should Gigi know? Well, stand up comedian. Do you know what the mad thing is? I don't do a lot. Apart from I do stand up is probably the most all consuming thing I think I've ever done. So I reckon I'm on the road around six nights a week at the minute. I finished my first tour in. Was it last June maybe? That was the first tour I've ever done extended due to demand.

[B]

Wow, that's awesome. What a good feeling.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. My demand still count.

[B]

I gotta make a lot more money on this.

[A]

I really gotta make demand. No. So that was great. Did that. I'm gonna tour again next year. I've done. I've done all over Europe. I've done all over the uk. Obviously next year. This hasn't been announced anywhere yet, but I am doing Australia and New Zealand next year.

[B]

That's so exciting. Have you been before?

[A]

I've been to New Zealand before. I've never done Australia, so I am very excited about that.

[B]

Cool.

[A]

And I don't know us at some point. That'll be. Yay. That would be nice.

[B]

And you have a special out as well.

[A]

Yeah, I do have a special out. It's also on YouTube.

[B]

Yeah, excellent.

[A]

Yeah, you should go and go and have a look, Gigi. And then what you should do is watch it and then have it on like a loop. And you could turn the volume down, but just, just keep it playing. Just let it cook kind of every day for the rest of your life.

[B]

Oh, wait. You know what? I also forgot to say, this is so silly. We have not. We never say our last names on the podcast. So.

[A]

I am Josh Gondelman and Matt Bragg. Yeah. Unless you don't like what I do, in which case forget. Forget my.

[B]

Then it's Matt LeBlanc.

[A]

Matt LeBlanc. Yeah.

[B]

Star of Friends and Joey in Episodes and I think man with a Plan was his most recent sitcom.

[A]

When was that out? Man with a Plan. I've never heard of that.

[B]

Probably the mid to late 2000. Teens. Let me look in the Hatch Encyclopedia.

[A]

Are really that recently?

[B]

I think so. I'm gonna look this up.

[A]

I actually really liked Joey. I remember watching all of Joey on a plane once.

[B]

Wow. Cause it didn't last super long. Right.

[A]

I think it was two series. It was either one or two. I can't remember.

[B]

Yeah, I really liked episodes. I don't know if you saw that episodes. Yeah. The premise was two British comedy writers moved to Los Angeles to adapt something they'd written for an American audience. And Matt LeBlanc has signed on to star. And it's like kind of a show business satire about what a Hollywood nightmare their lives become.

[A]

Oh, what a great idea. It's a great premise for a show.

[B]

It's really fun.

[A]

I'll have a look at that.

[B]

Yeah, it's like a little mean, but very, very funny and a little cynical in a way that I'm like, yeah, we deserve it. And show business deserves it.

[A]

Oh, 100%. Yeah. It's an absolute cesspit, this business.

[B]

Terrible over there. And apart from us, I mean, most places about all over. Okay, so tonight we have just a little while left to chat. And we had on our agenda we were going to create a snooze pack. It's a selection of choices that we each make under one big topic. Usually we draft about six. We do three each. Tonight we were going to draft bucket list items, which is a big idea to think about, and we might not have time to get through all of them. So what if we just each go through the top item in our bucket list. Activities, Newspack. How does that sound?

[A]

Yeah, I like it. I like it. I think that's the answer.

[B]

Excellent.

[A]

Go on, Josh. You kick it off your bucket list activity.

[B]

This is actually you. You brought this up. And this is something that. That has always been kind of interesting to me is I would like to visit all seven continents.

[A]

Mmm, Good one.

[B]

My grandmother did it while she was alive. My grandmother was a big traveler. That was like her main recreation. And she. She worked till a pretty old age because she would take these extensive trips overseas. And so she has. She had been to, I think the last one was Antarctica, but she went all over the world and she, you know, she spent a little time in Africa and Asia and South America and a bunch of time in. Around North America and visited Europe. And it's just like a really, I think, a really cool goal that, like, it's hard to have uniform experiences when you're going that many places. Like, you don't go to Antarctica and go, I don't know, I just ate at McDonald's.

[A]

Yeah, that is true. Although I can't Imagine there's a great deal to do to get there.

[B]

She took a cruise that went by Antarctica. I think they disembarked at one point, but I'll count cruising by Antarctica.

[A]

Yeah. Realistically, you're not going to do it any other way, really, are you?

[B]

Unless you're like, well, I've become an environmental biologist and I study penguins, and so I'm going to spend years there.

[A]

Huge commitment involved with that. Yeah, that's a great one.

[B]

Yeah. Thank you. I'm 3/7 of the way there, obviously. I live in North America. I've been to Europe and I've been to Asia. I was in Hong Kong for a few days several years ago.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

Yeah. I would love to go back to Asia, into Europe. But I do count it for, you know, for accounting purposes.

[A]

Yeah. I think I'm probably on the same as you, actually. Oh, no, I would have done New Zealand. So what's that?

[B]

That counts as Australia. Right. The Australian continent.

[A]

Is it called Eurasia? Am I going to.

[B]

I thought that was like Turkey, but I could be wrong.

[A]

I thought that was still Europe. We'll have to look into this at some other point.

[B]

Yeah, but you're going to Australia this year, so that's, like, part of what got me thinking about it. I just think that's so cool.

[A]

Next year. But. Yeah, next year.

[B]

Excuse me.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

GG Wait until next year if you're going to fly out to Australia to see Matt's shows.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Don't go yet. You will be waiting a little while.

[B]

What about you? What's your number one bucket list item?

[A]

It's a. It's a really tough one that I don't know whether it would be from a. From a personal point of view, like from a career point of view. I mean, I would love to. I've been very lucky and done, like. I've done an arena before. I've done like 17,000 seat arena, but it's not been under my name.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

I'd love to have that under my name and have. It's all me. It's all about me, Josh. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, that's exciting and it's. It's different. Like, I've. I've done big theaters, nothing that big, and it's always so fun and exciting, but there is, like a level of electricity when people are there to see you and they want to know what you're doing as opposed to they enjoy your performance. But they're there for the next guy.

[A]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then apart from That I reckon I would love to. I think I'd be rubbish at it and I think I'd hate it in the moment, but I'd love to scuba dive.

[B]

Ooh, that sounds fun too. I've never done that.

[A]

No. I'm a big fan of a shipwreck though.

[B]

Have you been. There's this amazing museum in Stockholm about. It's like a shipwreck museum. Have you been to this?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. The Vassa Museum.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great. Yeah. It was a ship that was like. They were like, this is our big vessel we're sending out to sea. And then it immediately wrecked in the harbor or just outside the harbor. So they have recovered basically the whole ship. And the museum was built around this big ship. It's really cool.

[A]

It is unbelievable because it is. It's almost completely intact and I think. Was it about 6, 700 years old or something? Maybe more.

[B]

It was really neat. It's like one of my favorite museums I've ever been to. It's really unique.

[A]

Yeah. I spent a long time in there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But that's part of it. I would love to go and see a shipwreck, but under the water.

[B]

Yeah, that's cool. That would be great. Yeah. Well, I'm glad we got to the snooze pack. Even in an abbreviated version. I feel like the listeners know us better. They know our careers better and we know about the world of anti grumbolio institutions out there in the world.

[A]

It's about time. Yeah. We got there.

[B]

Yeah. And we'll let Jo know that there is something called anti gromboglio, but it has nothing to do with the thing she said.

[A]

Yeah, she would love to hear the update, I'm sure.

[B]

I think she'd be excited. We'll let her know. And if you haven't listeners, if you listen to that. And then read Jo's book Murder on Sex island and pre order her new book, Sex on Murder island and go

[A]

and check Josh's special out on YouTube and mine if you got time. Why not?

[B]

Amazing. This was a great and far ranging conversation both thematically and geographically. But I'm getting pretty sleepy and I think I'm gonna turn in.

[A]

Me too. But this is. Yeah, been a lot of fun. Absolute pleasure as always. Josh and I will see you next time.

[B]

Goodnight.

[A]

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