A (1:55)

I'm a bit of a collector of jackets. I love jackets. But I've been saying for ages, I really like that one but I'll get rid of another one. So it's like one in, one out.

C (2:06)

Oh yeah, yeah.

A (2:07)

I've been saying that for about three

B (2:09)

or four years but the out has not been happening up until now. Just the in.

A (2:13)

The out has absolutely not been happening. So I've come up with a solution where I've got rid of a couple, took some to some charity shops. I got some vacuum bags to get rid of the ones that I don't want day to day but keep and some of the other ones I have got big into Vinted.

C (2:34)

Oh, you've been selling.

A (2:36)

Oh my God. I'm addicted now. I can't stop getting rid of stuff. I'm going to put the cat on it next week.

C (2:41)

Yeah, it's good to get rid of stuff.

B (2:43)

It is, yeah. And it's will leave more space in your life. It's less that you have to organize, less that you have to tidy about, less that's going to irritate your girlfriend.

C (2:53)

It's a bit of spring cleaning. I've done so many closet cleanouts, like, it's crazy. I feel like I'm finally at a point where I don't have shit I need to get rid of. And I'm like, happy to be, like, buying. I'm excited to be buying. But for years I was like, every couple months I was like, there's so much to get rid of.

A (3:14)

That must be a great position to be in, though, where you feel like you've got. You've got what you need.

C (3:18)

I feel like I've got what I need and I want some more. But it's a great position for my friends to be in. Cause they get all my old clothes and they have. One of my friends in particular has. I feel like at least once a week I'm seeing her in something I've gifted.

B (3:34)

Oh, that lucky friend.

C (3:35)

Yeah. Did your girlfriend help you with the cleanout, though? I feel like it's really helpful to have, like a second opinion.

A (3:43)

Historically, she would have done. I found actually I'm better off doing it on my own because she's been saying for ages, you need to do a clear out. Right. And I've done a couple with her, but they've just been so surface level because I've gone. I'm not sure about getting rid of that. And she's gone. Yeah, it's nice. And then I've gone, well, that's it. I'm keeping it then.

C (4:04)

Oh, she's opposite.

A (4:05)

Yeah. But then in the next breath she'll say, you gotta get rid of some stuff. So anyway, I just took it upon myself and I just did it. It took me 20 minutes.

C (4:15)

It feels so good.

A (4:17)

I packed a few things up for Vinted and as I was putting them in the bag, she said, oh, you're not getting rid of that, are you? This is exactly why you can't be involved.

C (4:26)

This isn't what you've wanted. No. You gotta have someone who's real with you. Being like, I feel like last time I did a clean out, I was doing it with my friend who was like, you're not gonna wear that. You're not gonna wear that. You're not gonna wear that. And I was like, thank you, thank you, God, I needed to hear that.

A (4:42)

That's so good to have someone like that.

C (4:44)

Yeah, yeah.

B (4:45)

And. And the fact is they're probably right. Especially if you've had an item in your closet for over two years and you only wore it once. Like, I had this ugly Christmas sweater mini dress, and I'd worn it once on One Christmas. And then I thought, why do I need to keep this ugly Christmas sweater mini dress around? If I wore it once in a while, many years, I don't need it.

C (5:08)

It has sentimental value. No, it's important. Once you get the bug, it's hard to stop. I'll give it. I give everything away. Yeah.

B (5:16)

Better just to, you know, see it for what it is. Which is stuff you don't need, right?

C (5:20)

Yeah, exactly.

A (5:22)

It does become addictive. Definitely start to see some. It really does space open up in the wardrobe? Oh, my God, it feels great.

C (5:29)

I know.

A (5:30)

Anyway, what else am I. Oh, have either of you been to see that new Elvis film yet?

B (5:39)

No, not yet. I saw the first one because this is from Baz Luhrmann. Also the new Elvis movie.

C (5:46)

It's another one from Baz Luhrmann?

B (5:48)

Yes, it's another Baz Luhrmann Elvis movie.

C (5:51)

Wait, why?

B (5:52)

Because this is like his live concept.

C (5:55)

He died at the end of the last one.

B (5:57)

Spoiler. Elvis dies in the end of the first movie.

C (6:00)

I'm like, where is there to go?

B (6:02)

But mat correct me if I'm wrong, the new Baz Luhrmann Elvis movie. It's his Las Vegas performing days. Is that right?

A (6:11)

Yeah, it looks incredible. I think it's almost entirely centered around his Vegas residency. So it's like behind the scenes stuff, like in the dressing room, backstage, and then live concert footage. And a friend of mine saw it in IMAX and said, it's one of the best things I've ever seen.

C (6:32)

Oh, my God. Wait, is it Austin Butler again?

A (6:36)

No, it's Elvis. As in like actual Elvis.

C (6:39)

Oh, my God. Okay, that makes so much more sense. I was like, what the hell? And I was like, okay, that sounds so much more interesting to me than actually the first one.

A (6:50)

I mean, not that Austin Butler is sort of actual Elvis now anyway.

C (6:55)

He is Elvis in a way. He's turned.

A (6:58)

But no, it's original Mark 1 proper Elvis.

C (7:01)

Oh, my God. Okay, that's sick. That's really, really cool.

A (7:04)

I'm so excited to see. I'm going to the cinema tomorrow to see that.

C (7:09)

Fun.

A (7:09)

Yeah, can't wait.

C (7:10)

I saw this crazy movie last week called Seurat. Have you guys heard of this?

B (7:16)

Hold on. Is this an old movie?

C (7:18)

No, no, it's not an old film. I think maybe there's an old film. Maybe there's something that has a similar name, but it's this, like, movie about this father and son who go looking for their missing daughter, S.L. sister, at a rave in the desert in Morocco. And it was really shocking. There were lots of things that happened that I did not expect to happen, is what I'll say.

A (7:43)

Is it an out and out horror film, did you say? Or is it like a psychological thriller type thing?

C (7:47)

I would call it a horror film.

A (7:48)

Okay.

C (7:49)

Which I didn't know, like, going into it, like I. Or if I thought it was going to be that. I thought it was going to be in a different way, I guess. But, um, I would say it's horror. I wouldn't call it psychological. It's not slasher or anything, but it is like. It's interesting because in a lot of ways I did not expect it to be like horror because it was like very like, naturalistic and seemed like it was going to be kind of like a normal, grounded story. And then, like, crazy stuff started happening. So it's horror, but not like in like a traditional sense, I guess. But it is in the way of, like, the beats that happen in the story, I would say, are like horror movie beats, if that makes sense.

B (8:26)

Oh, I'm intrigued. Is that still in the theaters?

C (8:29)

Yeah, I think so. I saw it like a couple days ago.

B (8:32)

Ah, fascinating.

C (8:34)

And also at the end of the movie, they're literally at the climax of the movie, like, the most suspenseful thing is happening. I, like, can't watch the screen. The screen goes completely black and we're like. I guess that's like a choice by the director. And then someone in the audience was like, I've seen this movie before. And like, this is not supposed to happen.

A (8:51)

Oh, no.

C (8:52)

And they were just having some technical difficulties.

B (8:55)

Oh, my gosh, that's so funny. Do you guys remember the movie Zorro, maybe? Or was it the Mask of Zorro with Catherine Zeta Jones?

A (9:03)

And is that the Antonio Banderas?

B (9:05)

Yes, Antonio Banderas. When I saw that movie in the theater a gazillion years ago, there was a certain point during a fight scene where the whole screen just looked like it was on fire. And I was like, oh, this is so artistic. And then the theater manager came out and said, we're sorry, the projector's on fire.

C (9:24)

And oh, my God, I didn't even know that could happen.

B (9:27)

So it reminds me of what you're saying, Sophia. Sometimes it fits into the movie where you're like, yes, this is an interesting artistic choice.

C (9:34)

Yes. And it was like a movie that was kind of like, it is enough, like, whatever, that I was like, maybe they would do this or something. But that's A fire is crazy. Yeah.

B (9:44)

I mean, just to be clear, this wasn't a scary fire. It was just like the celluloid was on fire. That the film itself was, which they said they were able to put out quick. And they're like, if you guys can all just wait a few minutes while we tape the film back together.

C (9:57)

Tape it back together, Yeah. I never knew that that would end up being projected if that was to happen. Yeah.

B (10:02)

Isn't that wild?

A (10:03)

That is. Didn't they still did that until like unbelievably recently, didn't they? That was the way to do it.

B (10:10)

Yeah, very recently, I think. Up until like 15 years ago. Right. Or maybe even more recently than that.

A (10:15)

Yeah, I think in some places we had an old cinema near us and I think it closed maybe seven or eight years ago. And I think right up until closing, I think it was still projector and reels and everything.

B (10:28)

Yeah. And it's its own union of workers to the projectors union. And so they.

A (10:32)

Oh, really?

B (10:33)

Yeah, it's a real expertise they have. Yeah.

C (10:35)

I know someone who's a projectionist.

A (10:37)

Oh really?

C (10:38)

Oh yeah. Not well, but I've met them.

A (10:42)

So is it. Do cinemas still do that? Is it still. I assume it's like if you're really into. If you're real sort of cinephile, it's probably the same thing as vinyl, isn't it? Like. Oh, no. You can tell the difference. Yeah.

C (10:53)

Well, is that what they mean when they're like it's 32 millimeter or whatever,

A (10:56)

you know, I'm saying that's what it was shot on, I think, isn't it?

C (10:59)

And does. But that doesn't have anything to do with what we're. What is being projected.

A (11:03)

I mean, somewhere down the line it does. Yeah.

C (11:05)

I love making stuff up. I'm like. So I had to guess. Like that's completely wrong, obviously.

A (11:14)

No, it's definitely.

C (11:15)

That's.

A (11:15)

But that's just the. Yeah. So they film it on 32 millimeter and.

C (11:19)

But then they can just put it. They just make it digital. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

B (11:23)

But more and more films are being filmed on like iPhones and stuff nowadays. Like, did you ever see the movie Tangerine that was filmed entirely on an iPhone?

C (11:31)

Yeah, that's. That was crazy.

B (11:33)

It's a really good movie too. I think one of my favorite Christmas

A (11:36)

movies is it Christmas movie.

B (11:39)

It all takes place during Christmas time. It's not your typical Christmas movie. It's kind of like Die Hard as a Christmas movie.

C (11:45)

Yeah. I was gonna say. But those are the best ones.

B (11:47)

Ye. Yeah.

C (11:49)

It's like Vibe Wise Christmas kind of.

B (11:52)

Exactly. You'll see some twinkle lights here and there in different scenes. Or you might end up at a convenience store that's playing chestnuts roasting on an open fire while there's a fist fight or something.

A (12:02)

Yeah, I quite like that. Just ambient. Ambient Christmas.

B (12:05)

Yes. Yes, exactly.

A (12:07)

I do like that. I'm a fan of ambience. This is such a broad thing to say. I'm a fan of ambience.

C (12:15)

I thought you were gonna have another qualifier.

A (12:18)

That's it. No, in terms of. If I go to, like my YouTube algorithm at so much of its different ambiences and it's like. A lot of it's so rooted in like, nostalgia, like 90s or 80s. So good.

C (12:35)

Which ones are you playing?

A (12:37)

I couldn't tell you offhand, but the. The. The images for a lot of them, I think some of them give more context than others, which I think are really cool. Where it's like you're a businessman in the 80s. It's just switched up and the artwork is like a real 80s penthouse.

C (12:56)

That's cool.

A (12:56)

And it's got the kind of 80s. Yeah. Sort of sounding music on it. It's great.

C (13:03)

I know I need to tap into those. I never use that, but people love the, like, lo fi. Like, I don't know. Yeah. The diff. They have all different settings.

A (13:13)

There's stuff like I saw the other day, a WWE wrestling intro, musics, you know, the different wrestlers intros. But in lo fi. Oh, it was absolutely amazing. It was so good.

C (13:30)

A different arrangement.

A (13:31)

Yeah.

B (13:32)

There's something about it that just feels so much more like you're in the action rather than it's an auto tune thing being projected at you.

C (13:41)

Yeah.

A (13:42)

I don't know what it is. It just hits some sort of part of my brain.

B (13:46)

Yeah.

A (13:46)

But it's great for focus.

C (13:48)

Do you just put that on when you're working or you just put it on? Whenever, anytime.

A (13:52)

Usually if I've got to sit and write something, I'll put it on.

C (13:55)

Yeah.

A (13:55)

Because it's like music for writing and

C (13:59)

it's something to look at occasionally.

A (14:02)

Yeah. The lo fi ones, especially the one, you know, the girl with the cat and that.

C (14:05)

Of course, the girl with the cat.

A (14:07)

Not too dissimilar to how you are currently.

C (14:08)

Actually, I know my lo fi setup.

A (14:14)

How is. What's your. What's your cat's name again?

C (14:16)

My cat's name is Tux. She is, like, basically completely enamored by like, wires and like microphones and stuff. It turns out so it's, like, very exciting for her. When we're recording, we should also point

B (14:28)

out to the listeners that it looks like she's wearing a tux at all times.

C (14:31)

Yeah. She's a tuxedo cat, which is why that's her name. Yeah.

B (14:34)

She is adorable. So cute.

A (14:36)

Really sweet.

C (14:37)

I'm trying to do a thing where I keep her in my lap because if I don't grab onto her, she really wants to, like, kind of get into it with the equipment. And I'm like, you have to stop.

A (14:49)

We do have that. We've got a tuxedo cat as well. And the amount of emails that that cat has sent.

C (14:56)

Oh, my God. Really?

A (14:57)

It would be a lot for a person, let alone a cat. Yeah.

C (15:02)

Just pressing send.

A (15:04)

Yeah, like, whenever. Because my girlfriend works from home forever walking across and just happens to hit the right combinations all the time.

C (15:11)

Yeah, yeah. No, they love to walk on a keyboard. It's like they're called to it. Like, there's something inside of them. It's like, I want to sit on. I want to sit inside of the laptop, basically. Yeah.

B (15:25)

It's warm. It's got that pressure. It's kind of like pressing on mom while you're milking.

C (15:30)

Yes.

B (15:31)

All of those things.

A (15:31)

Right.

C (15:32)

And it's, like, frustrating because it's like, I have the laptop, me. I have it in my lap, and they're like, I want to be in your lap.

B (15:38)

There's also that because their position in the world is to be the center of the world, and you're kind of ruining it by not paying attention to them. Right.

C (15:45)

The laptop is completely ruining it. Yes, exactly.

A (15:48)

I took our cat outside for the first time the other day.

C (15:51)

Oh, my God. Really?

A (15:52)

My God. I was terrified. Yeah.

C (15:53)

Did it. Did it. How did it feel? And did you put a leash on it?

A (15:57)

No, I just sort of. I have put her on a lead before, and she just wanted to come straight back in.

C (16:02)

Yeah.

A (16:02)

So I thought, I'm just gonna just plonk her outside or open the door to see. She went out and had her sniff around, and I was like, oh, this is great. And then. Yeah, she ended up, like, going underneath the deck, in and like that. And I was. Oh, God. And she wouldn't listen to reason anymore, and I had plans, so it was Dr. Me nuts. But eventually got her out. Yeah.

B (16:30)

Did you have to use cat treats to lure her out? How did you get her out from under the deck?

A (16:34)

Yeah, yeah. You've. You've got to, haven't you? That cat is never Doing anything unless it's for gain.

C (16:41)

And especially outside, it's so, like, there's so many other smells, and it's so overstimulating. You really need to grab their attention with something to get them back. Mine do not like outside.

A (16:53)

That's so lucky.

C (16:56)

Whenever I take them outside, it's like, there's hell to be paid.

B (17:00)

How did they adjust when you moved to your new apartment, Sophia? If they're into their cozy space, that must have been a big adjustment to move into a different cozy space.

C (17:07)

They honestly adjusted pretty quickly. I was really scared that it was going to be a longer period of adjustment. The boy one basically, like, went out immediately and was, like, looking around. She was hiding a little bit longer in the carrier, but for, like, a couple hours. But I think that generally they like being without roommates a lot more, and I think it's just less stressful. And the boy one in particular, he really is, like, wants to feel like the man of the house. I think he's like. Like, at my old place, he would, like, cry at doors and be like, I need to, like, have access to every single room. But it's like, it's not your house. We all live here. You can't go into my roommate's rooms. And so now he kind of does get to have, like, lay of the land, which I think is really special for him and really important to him.

A (17:55)

Yeah. If there's one thing I've learned from cats, that is. That is massive.

C (17:59)

Yeah.

A (18:00)

They own the house. Yeah.

C (18:01)

Yes.

A (18:02)

They've got to be able to get everywhere.

B (18:03)

Once again, we should just be at their beck and call. It's their world. We just live in their world.

C (18:08)

I think there is a thing where, like, in. I don't know where it is, but, like, in certain countries, they have it be like, when you have a cat, like, it's not even technically like, your animal. That's just an animal that has chosen to live with you. Like, you don't really, like, own that animal. They've just, like, chosen to, like, be in your house. It is how it feels sometimes.

A (18:29)

Yeah. Yeah. Until they decide they want to go somewhere else.

C (18:33)

Yes. They want to go under the deck for you. Yeah.

A (18:36)

Yeah. And it's only a matter of time, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. And it's only a matter of time, isn't it? Until someone. That's my worry. Someone. Because I used to do it with a cat down the road. I have really enjoyed hanging out with this cat.

C (18:48)

So you would snatch.

A (18:50)

I'd just give it the odd treat just for a tickle. Oh, my God. Nothing too involved. I didn't get her in the house or anything, but, you know, you just think, oh, it'd be nice just to. Just to stroke that cat.

C (19:02)

Of course. Oh, my God.

A (19:03)

You know, you're in the shop and you see some cat treats and you think that could help me towards my end of stroking that catch.

B (19:09)

Yeah,

C (19:12)

no, I know. Whenever I'm out and see a cute cat, I'm like, oh, my God, I wish that I just carried cat treats on me because, like, come here, let's hang out.

A (19:24)

On that note, I think it's about time that we turned in for the evening.

B (19:28)

Yes, we can dream of cats or just dream of living in their world, because we do anyway.

C (19:34)

Yeah, it's the cat's world and we're just living in it. So, yes, I think I'm going to turn into. Good night, both of you.

B (19:43)

Sweet dream, Sophia and Matt.

A (19:45)

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