B (2:35)

Where is that?

A (2:36)

And, like, he was just a school liar. So much, so many funny things. But he became like everybody's enemies. But you kept him close. Kept him close so, you know, you can find out what he's lying about, you know what he's talking about and things like that.

B (2:51)

Yeah, there's always a liar. And I find it, like, so funny. Mm. I am like, let kids lie. It's funny. Let them lie.

A (3:00)

Kids lie.

B (3:01)

We had. We had a liar.

A (3:03)

You had a liar. Tell me about the liar.

B (3:05)

I had a liar. The lie that I remember the most was that her dad was like. I'm like. And if you're listening, I send you literally nothing but love. Her dad was a physical therapist, and she would. We lived in Oregon, and she would lie and say that he did, like, physical therapy on literally, like, Michael Jordan and people like that.

B (3:26)

Well, no, he doesn't. But.

A (3:28)

Yeah, he doesn't. Not in Oregon either.

B (3:31)

They're not here.

A (3:32)

Yeah, they're not coming to Oregon. That's so funny. Did you. I remember, like, I. I know, like, when I was younger, there were, like, two lies that I would tell that I'm like, as I'm older, I'm like, why? Why did I. The first one was I would always pretend like I was a year older because I was always the youngest in my class.

B (3:51)

Okay. Okay.

A (3:52)

Like, I graduated high school when I was 17.

B (3:55)

Yeah.

A (3:56)

So I was always the youngest in my class. Always be, like, a year older. So I could. Because for whatever reason, that made me cool.

B (4:04)

Of course. Did that get complicated later on, though? Like, do you know what I mean? Were you, like, graduating high school, being like, wait, guys, by the way.

A (4:13)

No, no, no. I think, like, so, first of all, kids don't remember anything.

B (4:19)

Yeah, totally.

A (4:19)

So like, you can be one thing, and then, like, three months later, just drop it. Nobody will ever. And then, like, it'll come up again. You can just tell the truth. So eventually, like, I change in, like, fifth or sixth grade, and I think.

B (4:33)

Eventually, like, dropped it.

A (4:35)

I dropped it. But by high school, like, I was.

B (4:38)

How old you were. Like, it's okay.

A (4:39)

It's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I also, for whatever reason, just thought it was cool to, like, not be from where I was.

B (4:48)

Right.

A (4:48)

Like, because everybody was from Chicago.

B (4:51)

Yeah.

A (4:51)

Yeah. So I was like, yeah, man, we're from Detroit.

A (4:55)

For no reason. For no reason at all.

B (4:58)

Sometimes it feels good to lie.

A (5:00)

It does feel good to lie. But then, you know what's funny? Guess who, like, pretty much caught me in the lie?

B (5:06)

Who?

A (5:07)

Brandon.

B (5:07)

Oh, my God.

A (5:08)

Cause he was actually from Michigan, near Detroit. And then he told his mama, and his mama came like, oh, tell me where you from? Come on. I couldn't. And adults are like, this little boy ain't from Detroit.

B (5:22)

Of course.

A (5:22)

Of course.

B (5:23)

I feel like, as a kid, you always have the little things that you're like, for some reason, this will make me like, exponentially cooler or whatever.

A (5:30)

And.

B (5:30)

And the thing about the kid who lies is that I love that because everyone has one and everyone remembers who it was.

A (5:36)

Yeah, 100%.

B (5:38)

I'll say this. That's an amazing conversation starter. If you're ever trying to connect with people, being like, did you guys have a weird liar at your school? And everyone will be like, yes, I did. And this is what they told everyone.

A (5:48)

They told everybody. These are the things they lied about.

B (5:51)

Yeah.

A (5:52)

So funny. Sometimes I wish I could just, like, go back and watch, like, just from like. Like a voyeur. Just watch. Like, I know things that I used to go through in school. Like, we used to roast each other. And, like, we would get. Man, I would be ate up for weeks on, like, this dumbest roast, like, you, Pepsi Head. And I'd be like, ah, they got me. They got me. And.

A (6:17)

For no reason, just distraught. It is so funny.

B (6:23)

Oh, I know. I do wish I could be like a fly on the wall of myself in, like, high school or middle school. It'd be so interesting to see. It'd be so interesting.

A (6:33)

You know how you see these memes online about, like, you could take one or two pills, and one pill is you get $10 million right now, and the other pill is. Or you go back to the age of 10, but knowing, keeping all of your knowledge that you've amassed over your life at this current state. And, like, I always am, like, I'm just to take the money. I don't want to.

B (6:59)

I'm going to take the money and run.

A (7:00)

Yeah. Because I think. I think for a lot of people who think that choice is a dilemma are thinking, all right, yeah, you can have $10 million, but if you know everything that's about to happen, of course, back to the Future style, you can go. You can play the stock market. You can. And I'm like, no, But I still got to go and relive, of course, all of that life.

B (7:23)

Yes. I want to watch for, like, an hour or so. I don't want to really relive, first of all. Second of all, it's like, given the things I know, I don't think that if I went back to, like, 10 years old, given the things I know, I would not be able to amass $10 million by now. Like.

B (7:40)

That would not be it.

A (7:41)

I also think just the weight of knowledge, of knowing what's going on, like, how do you stop bad things from happening?

B (7:47)

Yeah. It's too much.

A (7:48)

People are going to be like, who is this weird kid who's seen too much. Yeah. And then, like, if stuff starts coming true, you're gonna be like, you know? But I also kind of take the eternal sunshine of the spotless mind approach, which is a great movie if nobody's ever seen it, of course, which is like, the movie is about breaking up with someone, and then you erase them from your memory. And, yeah, you can erase all the bad parts, but then once you start getting into the good parts of the, like, really special things that you just want to hold on to as a part of yourself, as a part of your soul, even just going back through life, like, one little thing could change so much.

B (8:27)

I know.

A (8:28)

And then I'm like, Then I wouldn't, like, meet this person, and I wouldn't have these moments, and I wouldn't feel this love and feel all of this. And so I'm like, I don't want to, like, regret. I'm sure we all have them, but, like, I don't want to lose any of the good moments that I've had to.

B (8:45)

No, I don't need to change much.

A (8:48)

If I could change one thing, I would change the Cubs not winning in 2003. I would tell Steve Bartman, don't. Don't go too the game, bro. Don't go to the game. Which only means something to 15 people listening. But those 15, a little more. I know they know what I'm talking about.

B (9:04)

You change that, though, and, like, it, like, literally, like, irrevocably changed. There's, like, fabric of your life. Yeah.

A (9:09)

It changes the entire course of my life.

B (9:11)

Yeah. Little did you know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, speaking of things that we hate, we could also talk about things that we're grateful for. Huh?

A (9:21)

I love that. I love a grateful. A grateful conversation.

B (9:25)

Me too. And so tonight, we're gonna do something a little refreshing. One of my favorite segments, which is the airing of our gratitudes.

B (9:44)

Do you want to go first? What are you grateful for, Chiquis?

A (9:48)

I would love to go first. I'm grateful that you're letting me thank you so much.

B (9:51)

First and foremost, I'm grateful for going. First and foremost.

A (9:53)

Yes, I'm grateful for going first. I'm a theater kid. Theater will always be near and dear to my heart. And the first musical or the first Broadway production that I saw was the national tour of Wicked. This is, like, 2004, early 2005. The original national tour cast can't through Chicago. And I had started doing theater my junior year of high school, so I'd only been doing it for about A year or so, decided I wanted to do that for, you know, my career and my life and saw that play that was the first Broadway musical that I saw and was like, oh, like, I love what I do, but, like, you could, like, change people's, like, trajectories and lives. Like, yeah, stuff on this scale. Because, like, yeah, I never seen anything like that. And obviously so many people felt that way considering it's still on Broadway.

B (11:00)

Yeah.

A (11:00)

To this day. And still touring. And it's the most popular Broadway hit of all time, I think. And like, so it was. But seeing that when it was at the beginning of this, like, dominance on the theater world was so special and so influential to me as a actor who, like, knew, like, oh, there is no plan B for this. Like, this is what I want to do. This is what I'm going to do. This is my life right here. Because I could get to moments like this. Right. And so, like, knowing all of that, I'm really grateful that the movies are out, part one and part two are out, and that they are getting a positive play and, like, people are enjoying them and liking them and they're huge. And like, Wicked is big no matter what. But there are a lot of people who had never seen Wicked who this is their first time seeing it or seeing it in a fleshed out version. And movie musicals are not new, but for a while there they were looked at as, I don't want to say lame, but just kind of like, oh, yeah, musical, right?

B (12:14)

Yeah.

A (12:15)

And like, this one is Wicked as one where it was like, oh, no, this is a great story, like, nominated for Oscars, like, performances are amazing. And it kind of takes me back to, you know, well, I wasn't born in, but when west side Story was so big and like, that was, you know, it changed, like, the cultural aspect of, like, the filmmaking era. And like, I think Wicked is in that. So I think that's dope. And, you know, considering how special it is to me personally, it's really dope that people are enjoying it and loving it and I'm grateful that the world is speaking positively about some theater stuff.

B (12:57)

Yes, it's beautiful. I think Wicked was the first thing I saw on Broadway too, when I was, like, pretty young. I think that's probably the case for a lot of people. Yeah, but it is, like, it is amazing and beautiful how art can transform people. Did you. You saw the second part, I'm assuming already?

A (13:16)

Yeah, so I saw the second one already. Yeah.

B (13:19)

Did you like it?

A (13:20)

I did, yeah. It was great. Yeah, it was good. It was good performances. Fantastic. I always love when, like, people who are already stars in their careers.

B (13:32)

Yeah.

A (13:32)

Get that one thing that's like, oh, snap.

B (13:35)

Icon status, like, cemented.

A (13:38)

And especially when it comes later in their. In their careers and it's like, now this is something else you're gonna remember me for. It's almost like a. A BC and an ad, like, before Wicked and after Wicked for, like, somebody like Ariana Grande and stuff like that. I think that's, like, really dope.

B (13:56)

Yeah, it's fun. I saw it also with some friends, and it's just fun when everyone is, like, seeing something and talking about it and there's, like, culture for everyone. It's all. It's all very communal feeling.

A (14:09)

Yeah, it's really dope. It's really great. So, yeah, I'm. I'm loving it.

B (14:14)

Who would you be if you got your pick out of everyone in Wicked?

A (14:17)

Oh, Fiyero.

B (14:19)

Okay.

A (14:19)

Of course, of course, of course. But I. I, like, really love. So, like, the first Fiyero I ever saw was black man.

B (14:29)

Okay. Period.

A (14:30)

So, like, for me, Fiyero's always been black.

B (14:34)

Yeah. You're like, that's me.

A (14:36)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Jonathan Bailey is fantastic. Of course, now, if it was somebody who, like, wasn't Fear, There aren't many, like.

A (14:45)

You know, male parts in a movie, which I think is great.

B (14:48)

Fiyero or the wizard kind of are your options.

A (14:52)

Yeah. Like, I don't want to be Bach.

B (14:54)

Yeah, well, no one wants to be boxed.

A (14:56)

Nobody wants to be Bach.

B (14:58)

Yeah.

A (14:58)

I guess. I guess Dr. Dillon in the play True, is, you know, has a fun part. Small part, but like a little fun. That's real in the movie, you know. He's just a goat.

B (15:10)

Yeah, he's just a goat.

A (15:12)

Peter Dinklage, I think.

B (15:14)

Yeah. Yes.

A (15:15)

Voices him. Yeah. But no Fiero, you know, of course, leading role, ego over here.

B (15:21)

Gotta have it.

A (15:24)

But that's what I'm grateful for. But I gotta know. I gotta pass the grateful baton on to you. So. Yeah.

B (15:29)

Okay. Mine is different. Mine is simple.

B (15:34)

Mine is candles. I'm grateful for candles.

A (15:36)

Heck, yes.

B (15:37)

I love. Well, okay, here's my thing with candles. Obviously, we all love scented candles. It's amazing. If you have a good scented candle go off, and I actually am in a place where I'm like, I need a good scented candle. However, I feel that what I love the most right now and I feel like I've just realized you can do is, like, just buy big cylinder candles, basically, and, like, at night when I'm reading or watching something or whatever, I just have my like two candles lit in my living room and it's like the most beautiful vibe ever. It's like so stunning and it really is like, look, this is the OG light source for a reason.

B (16:17)

And it really, it really improves my mood and it makes me happy. And yeah, I just love candles.

A (16:25)

I do too. I'm with you. I love a candle. Yeah, I have a lot, I buy candles, like, a lot. And like, I'll get candles from other cities. Like, if I'm like out and I'm like shopping or, you know, looking at souvenirs and I see a candle and it's smelling and it smells good, I'll buy it. Just bring it. Yeah, there's something about like, just. I have a butterscotch candle right now that I'm burning through. It smells so good.

B (16:53)

Yeah.

A (16:54)

And it's just like, it just makes the whole room smell good. And the flickering of the lights is perfect for everything. It's perfect for reading, tv. It's perfect for booty duty. It's perfect for everything.

B (17:06)

It really is.

A (17:08)

This is a great thing to be grateful for. Do you, I, I, you know when Bath and Body Works, does their like, you know, special on the, on the big fat candles? Yeah, I always go get like two or three.

B (17:20)

Yeah, yeah.

A (17:20)

But like, I'll go on the smell parade. Like, of course, you know, I'm smelling.

B (17:25)

We gotta figure it out. We gotta know what the best ones are.

A (17:28)

Yes. You know where else I get candles from?

B (17:31)

Where?

A (17:31)

Cracker Barrel.

B (17:33)

Oh my God. What? Are their candles scented as well?

A (17:36)

No, they just have like a candle section and they'll always have like, amazing. Some fun smelling candles over there.

B (17:42)

Okay, wait, I need to try that because Cracker Barrel has like an amazing gift shop, right?

A (17:46)

Yeah. That is the first thing. It's the first and last thing you enter and see.

B (17:51)

Yeah, they got you. Yeah. I need to, I need to get some scented candles because I've been rocking with the unscented ones. But I, lately I'm like, no, I want it to smell good in here too. But yes, I really just like, I think I spent so long just having scented candles that I was like, wait, I can buy like a pack of huge candles that are the same price as like one scented candle and it can just astronomically increase the vibes in here in a positive way.

A (18:16)

Yeah.

B (18:16)

Yeah.

A (18:17)

Do you have a favorite scent that you know of?

B (18:20)

I really like this one company called like PF Candles. I don't know, they're like, kind of. They have like, I don't know, the scents that I like. I can't remember off the top of my head, but they have like, nice kind of like pine, cedar or like earthy, whatever ones that I like a lot. And I. I think all. I think all get something from them soon.

A (18:40)

Heck, yeah. Yeah, I love it.

B (18:42)

Well, Jacques, speaking of candles, I feel like my energy has dimmed.

A (18:47)

Yes.

B (18:47)

And I feel like it's time for me to. To hit the hay and to go to sleep.

A (18:53)

You know what? The candles are burning. The crackle of the fire is sounding good. I'm gonna go ahead and put that on my hatch and shut it on down here in the pillow fort. So I'll talk to you next time. Good night, Sophia.

B (19:08)

Good night, Jacques.

A (19:31)

Sam.

A (20:01)

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