Heated Rivalry & Celeb Sleep Methods

Summary

The Nightly: “Heated Rivalry & Celeb Sleep Methods”

Host: Hatch Podcasts
Episode Date: January 29, 2026
Hosts: KP (A), Josh (B)

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Overview

This episode of The Nightly is a cozy, lighthearted pop culture slumber party designed to help listeners unwind before bed. KP and Josh discuss the cultural phenomenon of the TV series “Heated Rivalry,” explore societal attitudes toward romance fiction, and dive into a rapid-fire round (“Snooze or Choose”) evaluating current sleep trends—including hilarious and eyebrow-raising celebrity sleep rituals.

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Main Discussion Points

1. “Heated Rivalry” — Pop Culture’s Latest Obsession

[00:42–04:21]

• Phenomenon & Fandom: KP and Josh acknowledge “Heated Rivalry” as currently the #1 show, noting it’s based on popular books and has an especially devoted rewatch culture.
  • KP: “I wanna be a part of the conversation. So it is tough. But if this is a big movement, I'd like to make sure that I'm savoring.”—[01:16]
  • Discuss the tension between binge-watching for cultural participation and savoring shows slowly for personal enjoyment.
• Romance Genre Talk: The pair debate the (unfair) reputation of romance books and how interests popular with women often get trivialized compared to “serious” literature.
  • B: “What's Serious is a 470 page book about one boat. Yes, yes, that your grandpa recommends to you…”—[02:28]
• Classic Literature Banter: Playful comparison of “Heated Rivalry” to The Odyssey and humorous speculation about Christopher Nolan’s imagined adaptation.
  • A: “But Heated Rivalry is our current day odyssey.”—[02:59]

2. Viewing Habits & Relationship TV

[03:36–04:21]

• Alone vs. Together Shows: Discussion about personal vs. shared TV routines; for KP, some shows (“Ink Master”) are reserved for solo viewing. Josh often defaults to sports and certain competition shows (“Taskmaster”).
• Rewatching Social Dynamic: Observations on how “Heated Rivalry” viewers often rewatch with partners to share the experience for a second time.

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3. “Snooze or Choose”: Sleep Trends Rapid Fire

[04:44–20:59]

A segment dedicated to evaluating current sleep trends—hosts declare “snooze” (pass) or “choose” (embrace) and discuss each with a blend of honesty and comedic flair.

a) The Hatch Restore Device

[06:19–06:47]

• Consensus: Both “choose.”
  • A: “I can't believe I lived before I chose it. It's nice. Yeah, I'm biased.”—[06:22]
  • Laudation for gentle nature sounds and customized wakeups.

b) Earplugs/Earbuds for Sleep

[06:48–07:55]

• Josh: Chooses it, preferring one earbud for comfort.
  • Notes pros (better sleep) and cons (losing earbuds, discomfort).
• KP: Snoozes; prefers ambient sounds without anything in her ears.

c) Blackout Sleep Masks

[08:10–10:46]

• KP: Uses occasionally, especially with intrusive neighbor lights or sleeping at odd hours.
• Josh: Never tried, but appreciates total darkness.
  • B: “I'll tell you what, I love total darkness.”—[08:48]
• Discussion devolves humorously into classic cartoon hunters (Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam) and their “beef” with noisy animals at dawn.

d) Mouth Tape

[10:51–12:43]

• Both: Firm “snooze.”
  • Find the trend odd and restrictive; joke about mouth tape representing a strange contrast between “natural lifestyles” and literal self-restraint.
  • B: “The people who use mouth tape... commune with nature. Except for I will tape my mouth shut in defiance of my own physical desires.”—[11:36]

e) Celebrity Sleep Rituals

[12:47–18:39]

i. Mariah Carey

• Sleeps 15 hours nightly surrounded by 20 humidifiers.
  • A: “She can't really sing anymore. So what is this sort of for?”—[13:50]
  • B: “Getting to this level of... success and renown where, like, everything you hear about her is just like, someone asked me to do anything and I was like, I don't do that anymore.”—[14:27]
• Mix of awe, skepticism, and intense joking about living in a “vegetable spray” grocery store effect.

ii. Eminem

• Covers windows with aluminum foil to block out light.

  • B: “Hard snooze on that.”—[16:34]
  • The hosts dub it “baked potatoing himself” and riff on the environmental and aesthetic “bizarre-ness” of this approach.
  • Joke about the horror of discovering a tinfoil-lined bedroom at a party.

• Celebrity Pairing: The two joke about Mariah Carey and Eminem possibly dating, imagining a sleep environment of “wet tinfoil.”

f) Fire Burning Rituals

[18:40–20:57]

• Description: Write stressors or people's names on paper and burn it before bed to “release” the day.
• Both treat this with caution, highlighting the difference between cultural rituals and trendy appropriations.
  • A: “The only way I'm snoozing. This is if it's Goop's.”—[20:19]
• Concerns for fire safety; playful mockery of “Goop” (Gwyneth Paltrow’s brand) marketing such rituals.
• B: “But I agree. ...if it's just kind of like, oh, and they sell sleep candlesticks at Goop, it's like, eh, forget it.”—[20:05]

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4. Celebrity Sleep Rituals: The Goop Factor & Gwyneth Paltrow

[21:05–22:35]

• KP speculates that Gwyneth Paltrow surely has an eccentric sleep routine “that would make Mariah Carey look like Eminem”—[21:10], and jokes that the most shocking reveal would be if she’s totally normal about her sleep.
• Shift into respect for Gwyneth’s acting career, sidestepping the Marvel movies focus for earlier classics like “Shakespeare in Love.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On binge-watching:

  • A: “I wanna be a part of the conversation. So it is tough. But if this is a big movement, I'd like to make sure that I'm savoring.”—[01:16]

• On romance novels’ reputation:

  • B: “I think that's it, right? I think it's like a zillion women read this and people are like, well, that's not serious. What's Serious is a 470-page book about one boat. Yes, yes, that your grandpa recommends to you…”—[02:28]

• On sleep technology:

  • A: “I can't believe I lived before I chose it.”—[06:22] (re: the Hatch Restore)

• On mouth tape:

  • B: “Except for I will tape my mouth shut in defiance of my own physical desires.”—[11:36]

• On Mariah Carey’s sleep ritual:

  • A: “Surrounded by 20 humidifiers to create a... steam room effect—that rules. God.”—[13:21]
  • A: “She can't really sing anymore. So what is this sort of for?”—[13:50]

• On Eminem’s tinfoil blackout:

  • B: “Hard snooze on that.”—[16:34]
  • A: “Baked potatoing himself.”—[16:36]
  • B: “Environmentally bizarre. It's neither good nor bad. ...Aesthetically horrifying.”—[17:51]

• On fire-ritual trends:

  • A: “I was gonna say I can not snooze this without knowing who I offend.”—[19:38]
  • B: “If it's just kind of like, ‘oh, and they sell sleep candlesticks at Goop,’ it's like, eh, forget it.”—[20:05]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Heated Rivalry discussion: [00:42–04:21]
• “Snooze or Choose” intro: [04:44]
• Hatch Restore device: [06:19–06:47]
• Earplugs/Earbuds: [06:48–07:55]
• Blackout Sleep Masks: [08:10–10:46]
• Mouth Tape: [10:51–12:43]
• Celebrity Sleep Rituals (Mariah, Eminem): [12:47–18:39]
• Fire Burning Rituals: [18:40–20:57]
• Gwyneth Paltrow & Goop: [21:05–22:35]

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Tone & Style

• The conversation is breezy, playful, and gently satirical, with friendly teasing and pop culture riffing. Both co-hosts embrace a slightly self-deprecating, “in the pillow fort” vibe, ideal for bedtime listening.

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Summary Useful For:
Listeners who want smart, funny takes on current pop culture, relatable discussions about the pressures of staying “current,” and insight into quirky sleep trends and methods from both celebrities and the general public. Perfect for winding down, with lots of laughs and not a trace of doomscrolling.

Transcript

[A]

Hello.

[B]

You're about to drift into an episode of the Nightly a podcast designed to help you unwind and relax. For the full phone free immersive light experience. Visit Hatch Co. Enjoy.

[A]

Hello, good evening. Hi, I'm kp.

[B]

And I'm Josh. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch. A slumber party for pop culture lovers.

[A]

That's us.

[B]

That's us.

[A]

Well, I'm gonna dive right in because we can't be talking pop culture without talking about kind of the number one show right now. Heated rivalry.

[B]

Huge a phenomenon.

[A]

Huge a phenomenon based on books.

[B]

Have you read the books or watched the show?

[A]

I have not read the books. I've watched a bit of the show. I'm really trying to like savor, take my time. I can't be rushed when I watch tv. That's kind of my thing.

[B]

I love.

[A]

Yeah, I just, I'm not beholden to the weekly format. I can't do. I need to take my time.

[B]

I also, when stuff comes out all at once and everybody binges it, I'm like, well, that's gone forever.

[A]

I wanna be a part of the conversation. So it is tough. But if this is a big movement, I'd like to make sure that I'm savoring. I'm watching only when I really want to watch it.

[B]

Right. You can't make it feel like homework.

[A]

It should be the most relaxing thing in the world. But sometimes it does feel a little chore. Like to me when I have to keep up with too much.

[B]

I feel the same way. I have not seen it. I know people who've watched it multiple times already.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I'm hearing.

[B]

It's such a condensed series, but my wife watched it while I was out of town and she is a person. My wife really likes to similarly stay on top of things and be in the conversation. And she's a big, big reader, but romance is kind of outside of her genre. So she was like, oh, let me dive in here. And she at first was like, this is what everybody loves. And then by the end was like, I love these men. I would die for them.

[A]

I like this because I think romance books get a bad rap or just an interesting rap of their very junk food of books perhaps. And I think with many women based interests it gets a little trivialized.

[B]

I think that's it, right? I think it's like a zillion women read this and people are like, well, that's not serious. What's Serious is a 470 page book about one boat. Yes, yes, that Your grandpa recommends to you, and you're like, and of course.

[A]

We'Re talking about the Odyssey.

[B]

Classic boat book.

[A]

That's a classic boat book.

[B]

A book based on just a tale, just a tail. Homer would just be like, come on, everybody, let's come hang out. I'll tell you all about a boat.

[A]

Yes. But Heated Rivalry is our current day odyssey.

[B]

Yeah. Until the Odyssey, the movie drops, directed by Christopher Nolan, comes out this summer.

[A]

I will be watching.

[B]

I'll see it.

[A]

I really like that darn tale.

[B]

It's a good tale.

[A]

They knew what they were doing 2,000 years ago.

[B]

Kind of the heated rivalry of its own day.

[A]

Yes. I mean, there was journeys, there was cheating. I don't know. It's good. Heated Rivalry. I'm gonna take my time and watching it. I am eager. I've heard a lot. It's like this. I think people are rewatching it multiple times because I've heard from a few friends, you watch it once by yourself, and then you see if you can get your boyfriend or husband in.

[B]

Oh, that's very funny.

[A]

That's what I'm getting. I'm hearing a lot of friends being like, well, it's my time. Gotta watch it with my girlfriend now.

[B]

If my wife wanted to rewatch it together, I would totally watch it with her. But I don't know. I don't watch that much stuff alone.

[A]

Yes. Okay. So I have a good amount of alone shows. Just because sometimes I don't like having to coordinate with another person on when we're gonna watch. Sometimes I go, this one's just Ink Master is gonna be whenever I feel like it. Ink Master's for me.

[B]

For me, it's like almost always just whatever sports are on late at night. And then occasionally the seasons of taskmaster with the contestants that my wife finds unpleasant.

[A]

Yes. Great. Okay, well, we are choosing to watch Heated Rivalry.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

That's our choice.

[B]

It's not homework.

[A]

It's. It's not homework. And how about we do a little Rapid fire Snoozing or choosing. Just zooming out. Let's see what else we got.

[B]

I love this. Let's do it.

[A]

We're gonna play snooze or choose Rapid fire Style, where I'm gonna present some of the wildest, coolest, weirdest trends in fashion and culture right now. And we are gonna share if we want to snooz or if we want to choose those trends. Okay. This is gonna be Sleep Edition.

[B]

Great.

[A]

It's our favorite topic.

[B]

Love to talk sleep.

[A]

We love to talk sleep.

[B]

We love to sleep.

[A]

We love to do sleep.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it is funny because sleeping sort of was invented, you know, millions of years ago or whatever.

[B]

It was kind of the odyssey of it.

[A]

And it is fun that even something this old has new trends that are coming.

[B]

I do like that that people are always innovating. We haven't learned all that we can learn about sleep.

[A]

There is still, still new things to be done in the topics of sleep.

[B]

Do you think that it's just. It's because we keep developing new science and that helps, or do you think it's because we can't know everything about sleep because we're unconscious while we're doing it?

[A]

Mmm. This is interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I think it. Well, it is kind of one of our great mysteries because dreams are still like a lot of. I feel like philosophers or scientists or whatever are like, they don't exactly know what's going on with that.

[B]

Who can say?

[A]

We don't know what's happening when you're doing that. We don't know where that's coming from. So I do think sleep's got some question marks on it still. And I think trends will exist long into the future of sleep.

[B]

Our own minds, the outer space of the human body.

[A]

It's the ocean depth. I said Mariana Trench in my gosh.

[B]

We know so little about both. Yes. And I resist knowing about either.

[A]

And I know so little about everything. So this is great for me. Okay. This is Sleep Edition trends. First trend. The hatch restore.

[B]

Obviously we're choosing it.

[A]

I'm choosing it.

[B]

Yeah, gotta.

[A]

I'm choosing it. And I can't believe I lived before I chose it. It's nice. Yeah, I'm biased.

[B]

Good for sleeping and good for waking up.

[A]

I've been experimenting with the wake ups and I'm finding more about what I do and don't like, which is nice.

[B]

I like the gentle hatch wake ups because I specifically hate most alarms. Yeah.

[A]

I like the music a lot and I like the birds the most. I'm gonna bird freak.

[B]

I like a gentle nature sound.

[A]

Yeah. Second trend, Sleeping wise earplugs while sleeping.

[B]

For it.

[A]

You're choosing?

[B]

I am gonna choose it. Yeah. I'm choosing earplugs. I often sleep with one headphone earbud in. Cause I sleep on my side and so two is not super comfy. But I'll sleep with one in.

[A]

My boyfriend does this too.

[B]

Does he?

[A]

Yeah, he's a one wired earphone type of product.

[B]

I've done one wired. I've done which is. Honestly, there's ups and downs because it stops my phone from charging because the wire is plugged into the charge hole.

[A]

Yep, absolutely.

[B]

But on the other hand, it is. I've lost so many earbuds.

[A]

That's what I was thinking. I was like, you kind of do need to, like, wrangle those things.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I was doing it for a bit, and I found it a little bit harsh on my ear holes. And then I lost. Yeah.

[B]

Yep. Well, that's why they're gone. I have rolled over and smushed the earbud into the down ear, the pillow side ear, and that's not a good night.

[A]

No. I'm gonna snooze them for kind of these reasons.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I'm blessed that I don't really need them. I like my just kind of orange noise on the hatch to go to sleep. So I like hearing that. And I just don't need them. So I'm snoozing. All right, next one. Blackout sleep masks.

[B]

I've never tried it.

[A]

I like that this says blackout sleep masks as if there's sort of like a mesh sleep mask that still lets in all the light. I would assume all the sleep masks are mostly blackout.

[B]

Yeah. Maybe there's some that. There's a little more light filtration in the shirt.

[A]

Blue light sleep mask.

[B]

That could be. I like the idea. This is one that it's, like, not for me, but I don't want to. Yuck anyone's. Yum.

[A]

I use these rare, but I'll use these. A little silk one. And I do find that total darkness. I mean, they're onto something with that. That does help you sleep.

[B]

I'll tell you what, I love total darkness.

[A]

It's really good.

[B]

Are there circumstances under which you more routinely use them?

[A]

Yeah, I think when my neighbor's big light is on.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

It's an outside light that just sort of has been going through my curtains. But it's really rare that he'll turn that on. And then if I'm going to sleep too early or too late, like, then the nighttime is not quite dark enough.

[B]

Yep. Understood.

[A]

Cause I do, as some listeners know, I go to sleep quite late, and sometimes I go so late, it's a little light out. Wow. And that's not good. But that's just my truth.

[B]

But I also. I think another thing about going to sleep late. Right. Is like, if I'm going to sleep even before it's late, if I'm going to sleep at 2, I cannot be woken up with daylight.

[A]

No. Exactly. Yes.

[B]

If I go to bed at a sensible hour at 11 o' clock, and then the sun comes up, whatever, seven, let's say it's that time of year, I go, oh, that's nice. It makes me feel in tune with nature.

[A]

Yes. There's circadian things happening.

[B]

It feels very circadian things. Yeah. But when it's like, oh, I went to bed at 3am and it's 6am and birds are chirping, I hate those birds with my life.

[A]

And it does make you become sort of a hunter. In that moment where I go, yeah, if I was, what's the Elmer Fudd? I go, Elmer Fudd on birds. In that moment, I go, I've had it.

[B]

I can't do giant cartoon rifle.

[A]

I just sort of am twirling my big red muscle.

[B]

Oh, that's Yosemite Sam.

[A]

Oh, darn it. Was he also a hunter?

[B]

He had firearms, certainly.

[A]

Okay. And he might be a better one to one. Cause wasn't he trying to kill Foghorn, who is a bird?

[B]

Oh, that could be true.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Elmer Fudd was hunting wabbits, famously.

[A]

That's a wabbit. That's a classic wabbit.

[B]

I've got no beef with wabbits in the morning.

[A]

No. One of the most silent creatures to exist. I actually would love more rabbits in my head.

[B]

Very quiet.

[A]

Really quiet. Okay, so sleep masks. I. Overall, I choose.

[B]

I'll choose two.

[A]

Okay. Next is mouth tape.

[B]

I'm out on mouth tape.

[A]

I'm out on mouth tape.

[B]

I'm snoozing it again.

[A]

This is one where I don't begrudge you. Cause I'm sure everyone is turning to this for some reason, but I don't need it. I'm blessed in that way.

[B]

And sometimes nose is not doing all the work.

[A]

There's a lot of dander. There's a lot of allergies. We have to do what we have to do.

[B]

Yeah. Sometimes you get a little sniffle and then nose as there's someone sleeping next to you.

[A]

You.

[B]

You can't. Nose is a little rude.

[A]

Nose is rude. I think mouth tape also. It just feels sort of a job. My nose has got to clock in at night. I'm just trying to do. I think, let me.

[B]

That's such a good point.

[A]

Let me sleep the way I want. There's like a military barracks thing happening.

[B]

I go, it feels like. And this is extremely judgmental. And feel free to write me angry letters about this. But the people who use mouth tape it seems like the same people who are like, oh, I do all natural cooking and cosmetics and soap. Just what the body wants to commune with nature. Except for I will tape my mouth shut in defiance of my own physical desires.

[A]

And remember, people, those emails go to thenightlyatch Co. And you can just really yell at Josh.

[B]

Yeah, you can.

[A]

Yeah, just get all in it.

[B]

Take care of Josh the monster.

[A]

Everything you need. I do think. And I'm not begrudging the mouth tape because I'm a grind. I grind my mouth. So it is like I understand that you wake up and you're like, I can tell I was mouth breathing. My mouth is dry.

[B]

And yes, I don't like that drink.

[A]

It smells like a basement.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So I assume if your mouth's open, perhaps.

[B]

Yeah, I don't like the dry. But does it help grinding?

[A]

It doesn't. But I'm just in general being like, mouth tape's not my mouth's issue.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Mouthguard. So I don't, I don't begrudge.

[B]

You're saying sometimes the mouth needs a little help.

[A]

Sometimes the mouth needs a little help. Yeah, I'm snoozing it though.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

Okay. Next trend is celebrity sleep rituals. So there are certain celebrities that really have something specific going on. Mariah Carey's sleep method is.

[B]

Tell me more about it. She falls asleep. I think Mariah Carey goes to sleep until the day after Thanksgiving. From the day after Christmas till the day after Thanksgiving.

[A]

Yeah. Hers is a nine month hibernation period.

[B]

Yeah. And then she wakes up to sing.

[A]

Well, so it's not that different. It kind of is. She has 15 hours of sleep nightly.

[B]

God bless.

[A]

Surrounded by 20 humidifiers to create a.

[B]

Steam room effect that rules God.

[A]

An aquarium in there.

[B]

It's the Amazon rainforest.

[A]

It's truly a vegetable spray in the.

[B]

Grocery store that's just under a mister.

[A]

Wow. I have to deeply snooze that. It is scary to me.

[B]

I'll tell you what, 15 hours of sleep is incredible.

[A]

And I'll take some emails on this one.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

She can't really sing anymore. So what is this sort of for.

[B]

Like what's she preserving?

[A]

I must say I've sticking up for. I've not seen the recent live performances. It doesn't seem like 15 hours of sleep.

[B]

People are really gonna come for you on this.

[A]

I don't know. Is there carry heads that are really gonna get me on this one?

[B]

The night at Hatch. Excuse me. The nightly at Hatch Co. Care of kp. Care of kp and really get her for this.

[A]

Maybe she's on the up and up. But I've seen some live performances and I go, maybe make it 16 hours of sleep. I don't know. Maybe one more. Something's not hitting.

[B]

I, like, love. I have, like, a deep affection for Mariah Carey. Getting to this level of, like, talent, obviously, of course, but, like, success and renown where, like, everything you hear about her is just like, someone asked me to do anything and I was like, I don't do that anymore.

[A]

That's fully iconic. And I need you to know I'm a Carrie head. I think her. Some of her songs bring me to an emotional place that no other person can. I give my all to you. That song that she wrote for the baseball player she was dating, and I'm really sorry to that man.

[B]

Was it Derek Jeter?

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Mariah Carey's man. I only know men in their relation to women. That's what I do.

[B]

You are gonna have a tough time with heated rivalry then.

[A]

Dang it. Um, that song's incredible. So I am a carry head. This. This sleep ritual is very scary to me though, Mariah. But if it works for you, the humidifier is really interesting.

[B]

The humidifier part is.

[A]

It's really fascinating to me.

[B]

Imagine, like, truly just imagine going home with someone. You had a wonderful first date with. Recording artist Mariah Carey.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You come home, it's 6pm, she's gotta hit the hay to get her 15 hours of beauty sleep. You're like, okay, I can rock with this. You get into her bedroom, 20min blasting.

[A]

Just wet at you.

[B]

You are drenched the whole night. It's like being at an indoor pool with that level of humidity.

[A]

We have another celebrity sleep and it is actually an interesting celebrity to go right after Mariah Carey.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Why are you so obsessed with me? Eminem has a sleep difference.

[B]

Eminem, this is unhealthy. But he throws up a batch of his mother's spaghetti and then just conks right out.

[A]

Yes. That is his nightly purge. His sleep method is cover windows with aluminum foil to block out the light.

[B]

Horrendous.

[A]

We're at like two very different weird sides of coins here.

[B]

Hard snooze on that.

[A]

Baked potatoing himself.

[B]

There are other blackout curtains. Correct. You don't need to go to aluminum foil for that.

[A]

And even if your point is like, okay with aluminum foil, it's so flat. I know that they have that too. Like, you could just black tint your window. There are things that are doing that.

[B]

Yeah. We have great blackout Curtains. When I'm in my bedroom, I have no idea what time of day it is.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And I love that about my home.

[A]

Eminem needs some help in that one. I'm gonna snooze that too.

[B]

I'm snoozing it so hard. That's terrifying. Especially going by the test of like, hey, Eminem's throwing a little house party. You show up, you go, hey, thanks, Marshall, for having me over. He goes, coat's on the bed. You open the door to his bedroom, aluminum foil everywhere, and you're like, is this trying to stop the aliens from hearing your thoughts thing?

[A]

Yeah, I just am. I can't look good, it can't feel good. It's also gonna get hot in there, I think. I don't know. You're just sort of baking metal on your windows when the sun hits it.

[B]

It's environmentally bizarre.

[A]

It's environmentally bizarre. It's neither good nor bad.

[B]

It's just bizarre. Aesthetically horrifying.

[A]

Very odd.

[B]

I'm so far out on this.

[A]

And they did date, and so imagine just wet tin foil.

[B]

That's so gross.

[A]

Together they're sleeping and they. I think maybe I'm wrong that they dated. I mean, there was some entanglement.

[B]

I think they dated too.

[A]

There was some sort of something going on with them.

[B]

You know what it would feel like is like, have you ever gotten french fries as delivery? And they show up in, like, they try to do all they can. They put them in paper bag, they wrap them in tin foil, and then you open them up, and the french fries are like, they just saw a ghost. They're limp and soggy.

[A]

They're depigmented and put me out of my misery. Squealing. These are snoozes for us.

[B]

Big time snoozes.

[A]

Big snoozes. Our final sleep trend to snooze or choose here is fire burning rituals. Okay, so a fire burning ritual.

[B]

Tell me about.

[A]

This is where you write down on a piece of paper the names of people that have affected them that day that they're thinking about, that they're stressed about, or situations that cause them stress. And I assume they burn it in.

[B]

A fire and then probably you put the fire out afterwards.

[A]

Unclear.

[B]

Unless you're camping, I guess. Maybe if you're camping, you stay near it. Yeah, but I don't like a roaring fire or even a flickering fire in my home while I'm not conscious.

[A]

I would assume you do this and you burn it and then you let the fire go out.

[B]

You know, maybe I'm being a hater because I don't want to speak ill of anyone's spirituality, anyone's wellness that's not harming anyone else. But this feels like a lot of effort to wind down for the day.

[A]

I was gonna say I can not snooze this without knowing who I defend.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Because I'm just seeing sort of a general them right now.

[B]

This is true. And who's that? And they're like Buddhists.

[A]

And you're like, all right, sorry, let them burn it. Let them do whatever they wanna. Let them it. But if this is more sort of just maybe like Etsy Witch realm, I still actually would be.

[B]

Look, they can do whatever they want.

[A]

Anyone can do anything.

[B]

Yeah. But I agree. I think if that's part of your spiritual practice, let them have it. But if it's just kind of like, oh, and they sell sleep candlesticks at goop, it's like, eh, forget it.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. The only way I'm snoozing. This is if it's goops.

[B]

If it's goops. Yeah.

[A]

Everyone else, you should do this. You're allowed to do this.

[B]

That's right. I think that's a great compromise.

[A]

Yes. Goop, you're not allowed to do most things.

[B]

You're on notice.

[A]

Goop, you're done. Don't think I didn't notice you put a goop kitchen in my neighborhood. What is that?

[B]

I kinda thought they were anti food.

[A]

Everything I've seen about them leads me to believe that most of their food is sort of wet liquids.

[B]

Yeah. Like, it's like soylent for her.

[A]

Yes. Yeah. This is what I've seen of it, but I won't be. Well, maybe I'll go to Goop kitchen.

[B]

We'll investigate.

[A]

I don't know. Okay. I'm snoozing. Well, I'm choosing fire burning rituals because I think Josh and I have had enough angry emails today.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

So we're gonna just choose that.

[B]

We'll choose it with a caveat for particular sneezing. Yeah.

[A]

And I would. I'm surprised she wasn't on the celebrity sleep rituals. Cause I am sure she's got something interesting going on.

[B]

I bet it makes Mariah Carey look like Eminem.

[A]

It would almost be more shocking if Gwyneth was like, nah, I just kind of, like, stay up late on my phone and then I just sort of like, get six, seven hours and then.

[B]

I wake up, I find the blue light relaxes me.

[A]

I would be more shock at that than if it was weird.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause she's. I mean she just seems very quite particular. But she was great in Marty Supreme. I just watched it.

[B]

I haven't seen it yet. I'm very excited.

[A]

Yeah, she was lovely.

[B]

Excellent. I forget sometimes that she acts still.

[A]

I do too. Well, because she's quite choosy and she's got just a specific really way of acting.

[B]

She's choosy, but also she's been in like seven Marvel movies and anytime someone asks her about them, she's like, I was in that.

[A]

See, that is what's interesting. I saw some maybe hater real about her or something. I don't know what it was. And all the boys in the comments were like, big attitude for her to have. When all I know her from is Marvel. And I go, we are so different. I don't recognize her from that at all.

[B]

All disrespect to that point. All disrespect because she was a very great and frequently working actress. And now she works less frequently, but still goodness.

[A]

Which is great. She's got a business that we love. Goop.

[B]

Wait, no, no, no. I'm still anti. I'm still anti.

[A]

Notably the Goop I know her from. I mean, if you were like, where do you know what?

[B]

Shakespeare in Love.

[A]

Shakespeare in Love. And I love falling asleep.

[B]

Perfect.

[A]

Wherefore art thou sleep, Shakespeare? Well, Josh, all the world's abed and you and I are merely sleepers.

[B]

I'm gonna turn in, alas for Good night.

[A]

Good night, Josh. Sam. Foreign.

[B]

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