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Hello and good evening. Good morning, everyone. I'm Josh.
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And I'm Jack East. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch a slumber party for all you pop culture lovers out there. Gotta say hello to the number one lover. What's up, Josh? How are you?
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I'm doing well, thank you. And finally, it's so nice to be recognized for my work as the number one lover.
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Number one lover.
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And I am going to say hello to you. Jackie's the captain of the love train.
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Oh, my gosh. I'm on the train. I'm trying to get promoted to a ship. You know, the train. The train is cool. I'm trying to get promoted to the Love Boat, but I gotta work for that. And I understand that and that's okay. And you know, we may get one step closer there tonight.
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I think we're getting there.
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We might. We are. We're getting there because we have our own little slumber party that is a third in the room with us. That sounds very sexual. I apologize to everyone.
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It did sound very. It was very intimate.
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It was very intimate, which is why I'm trying to get to that Love boat. I get it. I get it. Tonight we are joined by a very good friend of mine. She is also so funny, so talented. Love her to pieces. Please say hello to the hilarious Nicole Thurman. What up, Nicole?
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Hello. Hello. How are you guys?
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I'm good. How are you?
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I'm good. I'm really happy to be here. You guys had the right guest today because I am the roller coaster of all, so. So the love roller coaster, you know, so I'm the roller coaster of love. Of love. Yeah.
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I love that. Cause you need kind of all of it. Cause you know, on my ship we gonna have a roller coaster, you know? Cause some ships have roller coasters now.
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They do. I would be terrified.
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That's cool. We don't even have a train. And Josh, you are cruise director.
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Thank you.
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Which is the face.
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I'm ready to do it.
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The face of love.
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Oh, cruise director is the nice person that walks around and is like 10 minutes to dinner captain.
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It's kind of the one. The cruise that's not. No, they're not really doing that.
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Yeah, they're not doing. They're like the person that's like, we're gonna have a party on the main deck.
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They're like the main international.
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I feel like they're always Australian.
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They usually are. They're usually international.
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I feel like as a bald guy being international, I feel like I could be Mr. Worldwide on our ship is
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Mr. Oh, Mr. Worldwide was on Marty supreme, right?
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I think that's Mr. Wonderful.
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That's Mr. Wonderful.
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Wonderful.
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That's what Pitbull calls himself.
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Yeah, I was gonna say Mr. I was like. Was Pitbull the Marty Supreme? And I miss it.
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If I. I couldn't tell you the amount of times I get the guy from Shark Tank. And it's very hard. Mr. Wonderful. Mr. What is it called? Worldwide.
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Worldwide.
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Oh, God, how did I not remember those glasses? They're big enough for the world, so
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I should have known. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Mr. Clean.
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Mr. Clean.
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Another famous bald mister.
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He's a good one. Oh, bald misters. Mr. T, he had like a little.
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He had the Mohawk hair.
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Mr. T had the Mohawk. Yeah, Mr. T had the mohawk.
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Little puff of hair, though.
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If you ever in the morning time when you wake up, I want you to go and find, in whatever way you can find, Mr. T giving his speech at the WWE hall of Fame. And like 15 minutes of it was just him talking about how much he loved his mother. Which is very sweet. It was very sweet. But also one of the funniest things. It was like, I love my mama. Cause she got nice dresses. I love my. She's the best woman. She's the greatest woman. She's every woman. She's all women. She's my mama. She's not your mama. It's just so funny.
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That's so good. I've never heard that. I gotta check it out.
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I would be very interested to know about Mr. T's personal life if that's his relationship with his mother. Because normally that means he's a mama's boy. He's a spo. Yeah, he's a mom. Mama's boys are tough to date because can't nobody. My mama has the best dresses.
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Yeah, my mama got.
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What about your girlfriend's dress?
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Maybe.
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Yeah, Mr. T. What about her?
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Maybe she wears sweatpants.
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But your mamba probably has the.
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Mama got the best sweatpants. Yeah, don't nobody sweat in their pants like my mama.
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Mm mm. She got the moisture wicking, but they still dry slowly. Cause they're so wet with sweat.
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I met Mr. T once and like, wow. And like, the first thing I said to him was, I love my mama too, Mr. T. And he was like, I love my mama. Oh, my gosh.
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That's a specific reference. I bet he was really excited about that reference.
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He was.
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I bet people are giving him the catchphrase all the time.
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Yeah.
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Or they're like, what's the other one?
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You know, what you talking about? What you're talking about, Willis?
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Yeah. All my references are backwards today. That's what happens. All my references are backwards that night. Oh, my gosh,
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Nicole. We love sleep so much. We enjoy it.
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We love sleep.
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You know, we always ask our fellow slumber party members, what are some bedtime routines, some sleep hygiene tips that you have that you swear by that you would love to share so we can all sleep so much more peacefully tonight?
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Yeah, well, I'm a big believer. I guess now after a while, you have to believe. If things are stressful, you have to find something to believe in. Okay, so I'm a big believer of, you know, I'm like, I have to have control. Where should I put my bed? In what direction? Because I love feng shui. Feng shui.
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Do you love feng shui?
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Very much so. And I take it very seriously, especially in my bedroom, because you gotta have a good sleep. You gotta have fun awake times, if you know what I'm saying. And you gotta have, like, excitement about the new day. I do certain things. I feel like in my bedroom, like, for a long time I just put one in there, but it faces the right direction. But I didn't have a mirror in there, which is interesting. I never have screens. I mean, I got my phone, but I don't have, like, my computer. No tv, not even, like, music in there. Honestly, it's very, like, quiet. It's just to sleep. But that's really nice for me because, I mean, I get up a lot in my sleep. But that's called perimenopause for all the ladies out there. They know. I don't know. It just makes it. For me. It's so peaceful. Like, I dated this guy that he works from home, and he had his desk right next to his bed. And I was like, you're gonna have a breakdown. Because that's so stressful to wake up and be right at your desk. For me, especially, like, I like to have everything a little separate. So I keep my bedroom very feng shui'd bed facing in the right direction.
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What's the right direction for a bed?
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It's different for everyone.
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Oh, interesting.
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And I actually cannot remember what the. I think it's called, like, a ka or Kana number. Everybody has a different number, and I think it corresponds to their birth Date. And so I'm like a six, which means my bed has to, like, the head of it has to face northwest.
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Oh, interesting.
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And then, like, if you can't put it certain directions, they say, like, try to do this. And if it's. If that's. If it's which direction my bed faces means I'll get a job. Like, that's cool. I'll try it.
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And it's also like, nothing bad has ever happened because someone believes in feng shui too much. You know what I mean? Like, there have been.
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No wars have ever been started.
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Yeah, exactly. No major conflicts are, like, northwest. The bed must go northwest.
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Well, I wonder if couples have ever had. Maybe couples and maybe not about. Because maybe the guy's like, I don't care about that. She's like, but we have to have a happy life. But. Yeah. So that's when I also feel like I watch. I was going to say. Why was my second response going to be, I always kind of watch true Crime or a documentary.
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No, that's okay.
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It's like the opposite of chill.
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Listen, if that's what you need to sleep, then do what you need to sleep. Because. Because even on, we have, like, crime
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for bed, bedcrime for bedtime.
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I mean, I think for me, there's a lot of reasons why I watch True Crime, because I like to kind of not zone out. But it's. First of all, it's a good study in the human condition. And then I also. I think it's a good study in the human victim's condition as well. Yeah. And it's just like, kind of zone out or like a documentary, and then you get, like, either really sad or really inspired. You know what I used to do, too, is watch inspirational videos on YouTube.
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Ooh, yeah, of course.
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Okay. Do you have a favorite inspirational video or a favorite documentary to recommend?
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I know that this is not even close to this. Not a favorite, but this is gonna make you laugh because it's a different kind of inspiration than you're probably thinking. What I used to watch was, like, medical shows. Like, there was this one who. There was a girl who turned to stone. That's what it was called, the girl who Turned to Stone. No, not from the Bible, honey.
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She looked back around, and then she was Salt.
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She was a medus. Medusa. She Medusa herself.
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Oh, okay. Okay.
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Well, I think I'm just really interested in people in general. And so then I'm like, I want to watch weird stuff about people because we don't know nothing about Weird stuff.
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That's true. Thank you. Thank you for the tips. Thank you. I love. I love all of that.
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Yeah. And I don't brush my teeth. Just kidding. I said, and I don't brush my teeth. I like to have the trolley gummy worms stuck on the teeth.
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Yeah. I like to wake up tomorrow remembering
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yesterday, and then I don't have a cavity when I wake up, and I'm grateful.
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See, that's right. Set your day right. Set your day right from the top.
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No, the feng shui stuff is really. I think the feng shui stuff is really important. I've noticed that with the TV in the room. Cause I. Yeah, it's not for me anymore.
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Yeah.
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I do think it's nice sometimes to, like, turn off the tv, get up, go to bed. Cause I think, like, when I'm in a hotel, I could keep that TV on. It could be four days, and I'm
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just like, Forensic Files. For me, it's always a marathon on HLN when you're in a hotel. And I just. It's always on in my hotel room. I get it. It's hard to turn off.
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I'll watch stuff I don't even like in a hotel. Like, maybe Hotel Josh really wants to see what's been going on in the show he's never seen before.
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Maybe you're like, oh, the NASDAQ is up today.
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Thank goodness.
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Thank goodness. Thank goodness.
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It was a hit or miss. It was touch and go there for a minute.
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I thought we were gonna lose it.
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I thought we were gonna lose that nasdaq, but it came up. Thank God it wasn't going down.
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Nicole, while we have you here, do you have a little time to play a game with us?
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Oh, yeah.
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Okay.
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I would love to.
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Tonight we're going to play a game of. Would you rather. I would like to start by throwing one out to you, because I know you have a dog whom you love very much.
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Yeah, she's sitting here.
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She's so cute. Would you rather know how to speak any language on earth or be able to communicate with animals?
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It's actually interesting because my first instinct would be to communicate with animals because I have a. I'm a little bit funny, like, where I very, very much emotionally connect to animals. And so, like, sometimes, I mean, with Izzy, I can. I can. I can really read her mind. Like, I can really see her, and she sees me. And so I'm like, oh, you're like. You have a stomach. Or like, you know, oh, you want to eat dinner before we go Pee pee poo poo this time. Okay, great. You know, like, we'll do that instead. But. But I think I wouldn't want to communicate with animals because some of them would say some sad stuff.
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Yeah, I think that's true.
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And that's why I couldn't do it, because it's like I connect so much with them that I wouldn't be able to be walking down the street and have some dog be like, you know, I got something stuck in my butt and they won't take me to the vet. Like, really sad. I don't want to. I don't. I don't want to not know because I want to help them. But I couldn't just walk around knowing things like that.
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I also think it would shatter the illusion that some people have. That some pets are not a holes or some animals.
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I knew you were going to say that because you have two cats. That's why you have cats.
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My cats were the sweetest cats of all time, but also they were. They were a holes at some point.
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But do you know that they were. They, like, misunderstood.
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See, I. I'm going to say because they never can communicate, but if I could hear them communicate, and they would be like, jacques, I hate your big nose. Get out of here. And I'd be like, you'd be like, that's racist. That's racist one. And yeah, you're an a hole.
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You'd be like, okay, I thought you was black, but obviously.
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Right. That's another thing. We all just. We assume our dogs are the race that we are once we get them. And what if I got a white cat? What if my cats were white? And not saying, I can't have a white cat in my house. I'm just saying, like, you know, I could be saying things to that cat that that cat cannot be saying back to me.
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But, hey, cat, what you talking about?
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Cat, what you talking about?
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Can't say that cat.
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And I don't know that.
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I know you've got those black paws, but this feels like it's over the line.
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I know you think you can just cross my path and ruin my day, but guess what? No.
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You're Calico.
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You're Calico. Okay, honey.
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I think I would choose speak any language.
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I don't know. I think it's so beautiful when somebody is bilingual or multilingual.
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Yeah.
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And so I think it'd be so cool to make people feel seen by being like, oh, have you ever seen the guy that's like, what do they call polyglot a polyglot. And so he. He does things on TikTok where he'll just walk up to people and be like, where are you from? Nigeria. Oh, what part? Da da da. And then he'll start speaking the language to them and the people are like, whoa. Yeah, yeah.
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I do think. I do think it would be cool. Like the movie up when. Oh, the dog. With a dog. But he had like a voice box or something.
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Oh, yeah.
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Or something to help him transform.
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Like, I love you.
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Like, I love you or squirrel or stuff like that. But I. I would like that. I would like the ability to make a animal communicatable. But like, but by choice, but being able to communicate with every animal. Also, I feel like we get noisy. Birds already be chirping too much. Like, shut up.
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Well, yeah, exactly, because they're always talking.
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I've said this on the show before, but the birds in my neighborhood are bad at singing. And I don't think I would like it better if I knew what they
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were trying to say.
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Yeah, I don't think I would enjoy that anymore.
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Robin, you flat as heck. Come on, man.
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Right? You're off key.
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It's funny. I. I did a podcast. I did a podcast where I played a person who was annoyed by loud birds. And so, yeah, I don't like loud. Loud, Loud off key birds.
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And then doll. And then cats, too. Cats and dogs. Like, my cats are not allowed in the room when I moved because I was allergic to them. And, you know, sometimes they would be out there meowing. And don't get me wrong, meows especially consistently can be annoying, but that's a lot less annoying than somebody at my door. I want food. I want food. I want food. I'd be like, shut. Get out. You gotta pay rent. If you. If I can communicate with you, you gotta pay rent.
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Hey, what's going on in there? When Izzy gets picky about food, I'm like, bro, you don't do nothing around the house to be this picky about your dinner.
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Don't do nothing.
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But I don't. But also she doesn't. She barks at other do. So I would want to know what she's saying. Like, is it nice or not? Because I'd be like, no, no, no, she's just saying hi. Or like, yeah, you're right.
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She's.
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She's really mad right now. So go away.
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What do you say? Yeah, what do you say?
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What do I say when she barks at people? Sorry. Sorry, I didn't see you there. I'm so sorry. And then I usually, like, fall or drop my drink that I'm carrying. And then I'm like, I hate everything. No, it's. Yeah. I mean, it's usually just apologizing. People are interesting because it's like, they really don't understand how much autonomy that dog has. And totally. Yo. She's just scared, okay? If I. I would probably be panicking, too and doing something crazy, so.
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Agree.
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Yeah.
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I always have to tell people that my dog has a bad attitude.
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That's amazing.
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Cause she'll stop and they'll be like, is she friendly? And she does like people. She always likes to meet new people, but she does not like other dogs. And I go, she's got kind of a bad attitude. And sometimes people are like, oh, got it. No problem. And then somebody's like, oh, it's okay. And I'm like, you really don't want to bring your dog closer. She will not take it well.
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But you have a pug, right?
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I have a pug.
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Izzy's part pug. That's why she's like that. Probably. Yeah.
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She's a little brat. There was. I felt so bad because there's a lady with a very beautiful, very friendly, well behaved pit bull on my block off leash. And she walked towards us, and I said, I'm so sorry, because I know. Pitbull. People get a lot of guff. You know, people are like, oh, they're mean. They're bad. And I was just like, I'm picking up my little dog. Not because your dog is bad, but because my dog is bad. And I don't want you. I don't want this to escalate.
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Yeah.
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Because my dog is bad. And she's like, I'm sorry. My dog, I just got her. She's not good on a leash. She's much more relaxed off the leash. And I was like, totally. No problem at all. I just, like, want you to know that I'm not mad at you. I'm just, like, trying to diffuse a difficult situation.
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And that's part of, like, you know, being a communicative person and an honest person is just being like, this is the situation before you wonder or think. Because, like, I respect you. You know, I feel for you, but get out of my way, because your dog is gonna scare me. And I say, because sometimes Izzy will bark at kids because. Because kids are just so unpredictable. Like, their vibe is so weird.
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Yeah.
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And. Or they just stare at dogs, too. Stare. And so I'll just tell kids, like, oh, she's shy. I'm so sorry. You know, she's shy like you. She just gets nervous and then they're okay. Yeah, We've never had, like, a big problem. Yeah. Because she'll. Izzy will be like, get one bark out, and then I'm like, pick her up, know.
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Yeah.
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Gotta go.
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She go into what they call air jail. Air jail.
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Air jail. Love Air jail. Love this. I love that we all have chosen to just speak different languages. And it's a beautiful. It's a beautiful note to wrap us up, cuz we gonna say this in three different languages. No, I'm joking. Wouldn't that be tight if we. I said good night in Spanish? Josh, you said it in.
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I'll do Mandarin.
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Mandarin. Okay.
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I can say it.
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Say it. How? How do you say.
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I can say it in German, I think. Wait, I gotta make sure it's German, though. I can say Guten Tag.
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It's time for a Guten Tag.
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Oh, no, it means good day.
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Whatever.
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Whatever. Whatever.
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All right, that's fine.
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Nicole, this has been. This has been great. It's been such a delight to have you.
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It's so cozy in here. Thank you for having me.
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Oh, my gosh, of course.
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Thanks for being here.
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Is there anything that the people listening to you right now should be checking out? You're very talented. I don't want people to know where they can see more of you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, I've done. The most stuff I've been doing lately is, like, cartoons, so you can just look me up. I'm on, like, an HBO show. I'm on a Scooby Doo show. I'm on an episode of Strip Law on Netflix.
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Strip Law is so good.
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Yeah. And then I'm also. I would like to. I'm starting to coach people and, like, teach workshops and things like that. So, hey, if you ever need a little acting coach or just someone to have a little conversation with, like, where's my career going? And it doesn't matter if I know your career at all. I'll just talk to you.
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There you go.
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So. Yeah. But I'm putting up a new website, and I'm excited about it because it's gonna be more updated. Yeah.
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I love it. I love it.
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Yeah.
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And last but not least, is there anybody that you would love to say good night to? It could be a who. It could be a what. But somebody to throw a good night to tonight. Who? Or a what.
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Okay, well, I'm. Can I double it with.
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Absolutely. Of course.
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Izzy always sleep. Izzy always sleeps with me. So good night, Izzy. And then I also am gonna say, look, I learned this the other day. Oh, I loved it. I always get too deep, but it doesn to my future self. I want to say goodnight to my future self because I want my future self to see how hard I'm working for her, because I saw that and I thought that was so brilliant. Not the past you. Not, oh, past you would be so proud of current you. But for me, it's like, current me might be struggling, but she's working for my future me. So I'm saying, like, good night. You got lost on the train 16 times today, but, baby, you got there, so congrats, you know? And now you're there. Now you know where it is in future you.
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I love that.
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That's wonderful.
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Kind of fun, right? Yeah.
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That's so good.
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Yeah. Thank you. It was. It's fun to be saying good night.
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That's beautiful.
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I don't know what that means, but you guys are just. This pillow for it is just so cozy. I'm having such a nice time.
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Very cozy. It's very fun.
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Thank you.
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What a beautiful evening. Thank you so much for that. And I will say to both of you, guten ta, Nicole. And.
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And a buenos noches to both of you.
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I'll just say au revoir. Wait, I should say, so long, farewell.
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Okay, good night, y'.
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All. Good night. Good.
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Sa.
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Episode: If Dogs Could Talk w/ Niccole Thurman
Date: March 21, 2026
Host: Hatch Podcasts (Josh & Jack East)
Guest: Niccole Thurman
The Nightly invites comedian, voice actor, and dog lover Niccole Thurman into the “pillow fort” for a cozy, late-night pop culture chat. This episode centers on whimsical musings about what it would be like if we could talk to our pets, bedtime rituals, sleep hygiene, and plenty of lighthearted banter. With games, warm camaraderie, and Niccole’s trademark humor, it’s a feel-good listen designed to wind you down for the night.
Hosts Josh and Jack kick off the episode in their typical warm, joking fashion, joking about being on the “Love Train” and aspiring to graduate to the “Love Boat.”
Guest Niccole Thurman joins and introduces herself as “the roller coaster of love,” immediately matching the hosts’ playful energy.
Timestamps: 02:25 – 04:56
Humorous debate over celebrity “Misters” like Mr. Worldwide (Pitbull), Mr. Wonderful (Shark Tank), Mr. Clean, and Mr. T.
Jack shares a memory of meeting Mr. T and referencing his famous love for his mama:
Niccole and the hosts riff on pop culture references and the universality of loving your mom.
Timestamps: 05:34 – 10:18
Timestamps: 08:36 – 09:57
Timestamps: 11:21 – 15:13
Timestamps: 15:23 – 18:30
Timestamps: 18:30 – End
A laughter-filled, cozy episode blending sleep rituals, pet parent confessions, and the classic late-night question: what if our dogs could talk? Niccole brings warmth and wisdom, ending on an uplifting note about honoring the efforts of our present selves for the benefit of our future. Perfect for drifting off with a smile.